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https://twitter.com/SiuLee2434/status/1488859750515486721
https://twitter.com/KoYami2434/status/1488859750989451265

>> No.17593734

The entire branch has voice packs on an indefinite pause as well.
5ch's doomposting and has been for a while. I think it's over for NijiKR.

>> No.17593921

>>17593670
Hololive Korea incoming boiissssss!!!!

>> No.17594019

damn, nijikr cant take a break. they might move hada to en

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>>17593670
Siu Lee hurts. I hope Seffyna and Ban Hada aren’t in danger of graduating. Nun Bora graduated only a little while ago

>> No.17594105

>>17594045
The entire branch is rotting by black management, needs to be purged completely if they have any chance at rescuing it.

>> No.17594175 [DELETED] 

>>17593921
I don't think Cover are ready to tackle the shitshow that is gook society

>> No.17594193

I don't understand the drama around nijikr. From what I know there's a terminal level Korean schizo capable of making vt look harmless harassing nijikr as a whole? And a separate drama with Ara Chae?

From what I know erogaki has reincarnated elsewhere. The criticism of kr management that I heard is basically them doing nothing/not enough to protect or grow their talents.

>> No.17594230

>>17593670
Lol why nijis keep graduating their chuubas ,black company much?

>> No.17594241

I feel really bad for KR, they have genuinely entertaining personalities like Roha, Hada, Seffyna, but their management is garbage. there are barely any opportunities for the members or promotion, KR doesn't do the effort that EN does or even ID.

>> No.17594259

>>17593670
Someone please save hada, hari and seffyna

>> No.17594270
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The only reason ID branches have a steady following is because they all speak English. Even then girls like Layla who primarily make ID content aren't thriving.
I guess it's time companies get a clue. Even if you do start up a non-EN/non-JP branch, they should still primarily stream in English just to survive.

>> No.17594305

>>17594045
Seffyna deserves a far better fate than getting stuck in nijiKR hellhole. I eould seethe for months if things go south for the branch.

>> No.17594326

>>17594270
NijiKR has multiple talents that can speak Japanese and English. Hada is a native English speaker. This is an issue of management.

>> No.17594365 [DELETED] 

>>17594193
The known and nasically confirmed drama is between the now graduated (and reincarnated) Shin Yuya and Ara Chae.

>> No.17594402

>>17594193
>I don't understand the drama around nijikr.
A literal 2view nijikr has nijikir's management by the balls and was just relentlessly bullying a girl into graduating, Bora left when she couldn't take that shit anymore and now things are just tumbling down. How she has the management's balls, we don't know. Ara is human trash.

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17594404

I'm actually mad about losing Siu. Her new outfit was cute, she sounded happy

what went wrong so quickly?

>> No.17594417

>>17594270
>Even then girls like Layla who primarily make ID content aren't thriving.
Siska would beg to differ.

>> No.17594434

>>17593670
Holly shit what a curse branch, although this is foreseeable because Bora but I still feel bad about them.

>> No.17594444

>>17594404
>New outfit before graduation
Every time. That's the flag.

>> No.17594447

>>17593670
>>17593734
If anything happens to Hada I will anti every Korean vtuber. She came back from her break and talked about certain stuff that now makes me worried. I will not let that country have vtubers just because they have dedicated schizos that decided continually harass nijisanji KR's retarded management.

>> No.17594452

>>17593670
They're the next least famous branch after IN, its surprising how they're still going.

>> No.17594497

>>17594193
Idk about drama but they were a halfass attempt of a branch in the first place. NijiKR was an acquired agency that Niji took over and turned into the now NijiKR. The management and the people are still the same but with niji's logo plastered on them. Dunno how their sponsorships or other income went by all this time but onw thing for sure is that the management is always barely present

>> No.17594635

>>17593921
Try being less stupid. There are 19 (nineteen) vtubers in NijiKR, excluding everyone that graduated.

>> No.17594638

>>17593670
And Fubuki loses another sister...

>> No.17594653

>>17594497
then why they can't just add their own nijistaff tho? ID grows well in the hand of locals who wanna engage with local sponsors and artists, why didn't KR decided to do the same?

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Just tell me Hari is safe

>> No.17594671

>>17594635
Hololive unironically has a greater presence in Korea than Nijisanji and they don't even have a branch there, unlike nijisanji they actually know how to appeal to foreigners.

>> No.17594709

>>17594670
Depends on how she feels/her interactions with Ara. Same for the rest of them.

>> No.17594718

>>17594270
Isegye idol says otherwise, there is a vtuber market in Korea, they just don't like nijisanji

>> No.17594793

>>17594671
Thats what you think.

>> No.17594796

>>17594270
Nijisanji ID has no major yabs at all. The only thing I could remember is Bonni's tweet which solidifies the fact that he's /here/. They have good management too.

>> No.17594814

>>17594793
It's true though

>> No.17594843
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>>17593670

>> No.17594845

>>17594497
if i remember right it was they just adopted the vtubers of a company that bankrupted around the same time, thats why there was people saying the nijis were gen 1 and adopted ones gen 1.5

>> No.17594882

>>17594843
....

>> No.17594883

>>17594404
Just like Lulu and Bora and Gibara
It's true, getting a new outfit is a sign of graduation for a niji

>> No.17594897

>>17593921
Hololive is more likely to try a Spanish branch to farm those Latino weebs more.

Every attempt on India has failed, they can't return to China, and Korea is a dicey market since they seem mostly content watching EN+JP+CN vtubers instead.

>> No.17594908

>>17594193
The schizo IS Ara Chae.
>Ichikara aquires KR branch
>does not touch management, basically lets them operate the same way as they did from whatever shithole they came from
>A bunch leave due to military conscription or anger at management for being booted to the basement of a Japanese company
>the first wave has dwindled down to 1 guy, Min Suha, who is an avid Nijifan and has been watching his branch deteriorate with no power to help since managers only listen to those with good numbers
>Moarin the bully drags in her vtuber victims, and gets outed as a woman who relentlessly beat another (unrelated) girl to the point of hospitalization
>management ignores chuubas, leading Bora to beg for managers to give Roha her 2.0 and outfit that has been finished for months, it was to the point where Roha was making depressed messages as they just didn't caee
>their anniversary song took a fucking year to release with graduated members in it
>their own Yuya who graduated has been trying to help the remaining KRs in court against Ara
>all through this some fag (probably Ara) had been leaking KR discord chats on dcinside
And for over half a year, KR members had to watch as NijiEN arrived with airtight management that responds as fast as they can, quick game perms (EN is the reason KR could play Starcraft, the Korean national hobby), fast released music, unofficial talks with fans (that KR has wanted for a year after the JP branch has a regular fanmeet event)

>> No.17594925

>>17594883
What about everyone else who got a new outfit?

>> No.17594958

>>17594670
Depends. Is she content with just treating it like a hobby?

>> No.17594967

So KR is probably shutting down soon isn't it? What's going to happen to the rest?

>> No.17595015

>>17594908
WTF. Chae Ara? But why? What does she have against NijiKR?

>> No.17595026

>>17593670
HADA, HARI, NAGI AND SEFFYNA COME TO EN I WILL WATCH YOU EVEN IF YOU HAVE STRONG AF ESL

>> No.17595036

>>17594967
God I hope so, at this point it'd be just like taking old yeller out back and mercy killing him

>> No.17595055

>>17595015
She's an irrelevant 2view. Yuya was actually getting popular.

>> No.17595093

HoloKR LETS GOOOO

>> No.17595095

>>17593670
Noor...

>> No.17595100

>>17595055
I mean, why is Chae Ara doing all this? How do we know it's true?

>> No.17595113

>>17595026
>Seffyna
>EN
She's going to JP bro...

>> No.17595117

>>17595015
She is a seething 0view who has a history of being a doxxer/slander spreader. She also lied about being stalked to draw pity on her.

>> No.17595124

Fuck, my pink Lamy...
I also like Seffyna's singing and Roha's piano.
Sucks to have this happening with their branch.

>> No.17595144

Why am I supposed to pretend that I care about chuubas that I know for a fact almost everyone in this thread never watched?

>> No.17595157

>>17595026
This, fire management and transfer the rest of them to JP, EN, ID and VR. this country doesn't deserve vtubers.

>> No.17595181

>>17595144
Not everyone is a globalfag like you, you know.

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17595197

How do we know the schizo isn't Nagi?

>> No.17595207

>>17595100
shrug, it's confirmed that there's drama between the two since Yuya's new reincarnation follows everyone in NijiKR but Ara.

>> No.17595218

>>17595113
i was thinking: where could they move her to that would make sense? but they wont bump her to jp if they’re dissolving kr. ban hada speaks japanese too

>> No.17595225

As long as I can have Seffyna, all is good in the world.

>> No.17595229

>>17594447
I honestly Will be piss off if Riku doesn't transfer all the kr that can speak JP to NijiJP (well if they planning to Axe the branch)

>> No.17595227

>>17593734
>5ch's
Does they care about them?

>> No.17595239

https://twitter.com/g9_3_/status/1488799357012873216

I’ve been following this artist for a while and I’m glad he’s so into NijiEN

>> No.17595251

>>17595181
Yeah instead they're dramafags looking for shit to bait with.

>> No.17595273

>>17595207
Ah fuck, that's damning evidence. Management doesn't give 2 fucks? Someone from Niji HQ has to be able to do something.

>> No.17595287

>>17595227
A lot more than this board does. Tons of KRs speak Japanese.

>> No.17595304

>>17595239
Fuck wrong thread

>> No.17595310

>>17595229
Yeah, just like Noor transferred to (real) NijiEN right?

>> No.17595347

Yagoo, please, set up a KR branch already and save these girls

>> No.17595348

Korean friend...

>> No.17595373

>>17595100
dcinside posts compiled it, it's shared in a previous KR doompost thread, search ara or chae in warosu.

>> No.17595387

>>17595218
Chiho, Kiru and Mia also follow Yuya's reincarnation.

>> No.17595386

>>17595304
that link is like putting salt in the wounds...

>> No.17595412

>>17595347
There's guys too...

>> No.17595416

>>17595026
Please don't forget Suha...

>> No.17595434 [DELETED] 

Vox cannot go 5 minutes without referencing popular media and Mysta doesn't understand any of it

>> No.17595435

>>17595227
5ch talks more about non-JP vtubers than this place talks about non-EN vtubers.

>> No.17595441

>>17595412
Sorry lads, you're on your own

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They are coming home
Jk they are trash

>> No.17595473

>>17595416
Suha will be the last NijiKR

>> No.17595512

>>17593670
Whatever accusations of black company NijiJP has turns out not only to be true, but at a worse level with NijiKR.

I hope they rescue at least some of them in there (except Ara, fuck that bitch). Please save Hada and Seffyna in particular.

>> No.17595545

If seffyna graduates i really REALLY hope she reincarnates because she Is the sweetest person alive

>> No.17595552

>>17594883
Lazulight......

>> No.17595554

>>17593670
/vt/ loves to shit on ID branch for being small and poor but that branch is actually the most stable overseas branch after EN with an immense potential.

>> No.17595561

>>17595144
That's like every thread on this board except certain generals, and even in those you will still find catalog cretins trying to take a shit in the dining room.

>> No.17595589

They won't save any of them kek, hope you can keep track of PLs.

>> No.17595608

>>17595473
Suha and Chiho have real life jobs.

>> No.17595752

>>17595207
Mind linking Yuya’s reincarnation? I watched her debut/3d but i forgot to subscribe

>> No.17595805

>>17595752
https://twitter.com/lolminyeo
https://twitter.com/Jooin_VLUP
https://twitter.com/jooin_2nd

>> No.17595808

>>17595310
Technically Noor is employed in niji EN management since early on

>> No.17595811

>>17594908
The solution seems obvious here, just cut Ara off. How is this girl not fired for breach of contract yet?

>> No.17595835

>>17595752
Lee jooin

>> No.17595887

>>17595808
Noor has always been Niji management. She joined IN because they didn't have enough chuubas

>> No.17595894

>>17595808
is there any confirmation of this?

>> No.17595898

>>17595811
Probably waiting on the court decision.

>> No.17595908

>>17595811
Apparently she's in cahoots with KR management.

>> No.17595927

>>17595811
Management can't even email files to a girl, you expect them to give a shit? She's also in the middle of being sued, I assume lawyers have their fingers in things.

>> No.17595931

>>17595894
Finana mentioned it on an early stream

>> No.17595980

>>17595554
To be fair, it seems like Anykara really treats their KR division like diseased stray dogs, at least going by what other anons are saying. And I don't know of any other sizeable corpo that runs a KR division. Difficult to make a proper comparison.

>> No.17595982

>>17595931
Not a confirmation. Finana said Noor was one of the interviewers, but didn't say whether she stayed to be with management or not.

>> No.17596017

>>17595554
It helps that they're an actual branch. NijiKR is like some kind of cautionary tale/experiment gone wrong in attempting slap shod expansion through acquirement while simultaneously trying to keep up with and accommodate their unexpected and rapidly growing (at the time) domestic success. I doubt Anycolor/Ichikara's priorities were ever focused on KR since their KR management is basically the same retards since day 1, especially contrasted with the type of support Edengumi and EN have gotten.

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>>17595980
>it seems like Anykara really treats their KR division like diseased stray dogs
As they should.

>> No.17596090

What the hell, the only thing I knew about Chae is she had the same artist as Uiha, I had no idea she was crazy.

>> No.17596228

>>17596041
Ayame will never say something so rude!

>> No.17596248

>>17596090
Makes me disgusted a doxxfag menhera was close to my precious kanaeboshi

>> No.17596267

>>17595982
IN was axed long before EN auditions. Why would a literally who no longer affiliated with the company interview the talents?

>> No.17596273

>>17594270
No. ID branch can survive because the ID fanbase is bigger than the other branches. English only plays a small part about ID vtubers' survivability. You're not Indonesian so you do not know that there are some ID only vtubers out here that can survive and growing nicely. Sure they do not earn the same amount of supacha dollars that the Holo ID get, but they're certainly growing and some even getting more numbers than Holo ID.
The best thing about ID is that the market is still going to grow for years to come, while EN is starting to reclining. Have I mentioned that Indonesia is also among the fastest growing emerging markets?

What the companies could learn isn't they should be using English more, but to expand to a stable market with a huge growing potential.

Also Layla isn't thriving because she isn't interesting, it's her personality problem, not the language she choose.

>> No.17596411

>>17594883
It's because people who got outfits stick around until they're finished before graduating.

>> No.17596439

>>17596267
Niji EN auditions opened and closed late 2020, IN closed in April 2021

>> No.17596450

>>17596273
What "personality problem" does Layla have? I don't speak indonesian so I wouldn't know. I hope it's nothing bad.

>> No.17596454

>>17596411
in other words, just fansa.

>> No.17596496

>>17596273
Kr has growth potential though, the issue is that nijisanji is just extremely bad at expanding into markets outside of Japan, and that goes double for nijiKR because their management is pants on head retarded

>> No.17596523

>>17596450
I'm Indonesian and I'm not sure either. Her history streams are chill and she's a sweet girl, that's it.

>> No.17596553

>>17594897
Actually, there has been a rise of krvtubers on Twitch.
But yeah, krvtubers in youtube are, overall, left behind.

>> No.17596566

>>17595982
No confirmation she's in management, just that's she's still employed on some level within the EN branch. People tend to use "management" for any company position that isn't an on-air talent or the CEO.

>> No.17596591

>>17594908
>cute model
>is actually a massive bitch bts
every time

>> No.17596606

>>17595931
Fianna only said that she's talked to her during the interview, she never said that she is part of management or is even currently employed after NijiID got disbanded. Given what we know about the nijisanji interview process she might very well be brought in as a "friend" to demonstrate her socail skills on.

>> No.17596632

>>17594897
>Korea is a dicey market since they seem mostly content watching EN+JP+CN vtubers instead.
Korean vtubers are seeing some impressive growth actually, you just don't hear about it much because it's not Nijisanji that's growing.

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>>17596591
Makes me wonder who else is a bitch in Nijisanji.

>> No.17596642

>>17596273
None of them do better than Holo ID. Doesn't mean it's not a viable branch but don't get carried away. Last month's top Niji ID was Mika, with like 500 average or something, and she's been hard carried off her Niji EN interactions.

>> No.17596697

>>17596642
On that point I'm pretty sure anon was talking about ID vtubers generally and not NijiID specifically

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>>17596641
he/shes just out there, plotting the next menhera bursts of fuckness on a poor co-worker making ends meet.

>> No.17596780

>>17596632
New vtubers or just dullahans adopting a Live2D model?

>> No.17596800

>>17596780
Both.

>> No.17596850

>>17596642
Kek don’t get too cocky Holofag. Everyone knows Hololive numbers are greatly inflated that’s why Cover places such an emphasis on numbers in the threads it makes here

>> No.17596862

>>17596780
Both, Isegye idol in particular did very well and they are all new debuts who explicitly modelled themselves off hololive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSXAKsq-Vo

>> No.17596892

>>17596850
This is one of the strangest nijicopes I've seen in recent memory

>> No.17596898

>>17596850
ogey

>> No.17596929

>>17596606
>NijiID got disbanded
If only this actually happened

>> No.17597001

>>17596450
Nothing bad, she's just plain. Typical normies.

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>>17596892
Viewer bots, chat bots, etc. this has already been discussed to death on this board but Cover has no presence in Japan so it has to resort to slimy tactics to pull in EOPs. If you truly believe ~10k people turn out for streams like pic related on average, I’m afraid you might have brain damage

>> No.17597063

>>17597035
Oh no he overdosed on copium

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>>17593670
Please Nijisanji. Sell Koyamis design, its too good to let it go to waste.

>> No.17597150

>>17597035
I find it a little suspicious as well since a 7k ccv HoloEN stream has less chat traffic than a 1.5k NijiEN stream. Both are karaokes and had no slowmode. But is there any actual evidence of this?

>> No.17597157

>Drama thread actually gets some decent discussion/actual posts
>Shitposters come to derail thread into tribal shitflinging thread#109301
You faggots are literally the botnet bug people that you also pretend to abhor

>> No.17597192

>>17597139
I like her design, but I like to less on her actual model

>> No.17597196

>>17594045
Ban Hada's English will keep her afloat.

>> No.17597214

>>17596850
>>17597035
Derailing the thread... fuck off with baiting.

>> No.17597255

>>17594270
Polygon is a Thai-only company and they're doing fine

>> No.17597263

>>17597157
nijiniggers can't help themselves, please understand

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>>17593670
Fubuki sister, NOOOO!

>> No.17597285

>>17594843
Korean friend...

>> No.17597315

>>17597157
I don't know what exactly you expected from this board, that's what happens to every thread outside of generals and wjen anything remotely passable as drama happens even those threads gets raided

>> No.17597338

>>17597263
Ironic.

>> No.17597344

>>17597263
>Tribalism

>> No.17597376

>>17597263
You're part of the problem.

>> No.17597395 [DELETED] 

>>17597263
there's a reason we call them niggers, and it's not just because it rhymes.

>> No.17597396

>>17594908
Honestly I feel that for niji kr to stay active, anycolor just needs to axe ara fully for breaking contract, axe the current kr management for being retards, and just fully support the kr talent.

Just help the talents with game permissions, cover songs, local promotions, and merch with the current JP management until they can hire non-black management

>> No.17597397

>>17597150
There is but, goodluck finding some as hlocucks will do their best to hide it.

>>17597035
Can't blame em, i only go for hlolve for noels tits, roommate or avatar, plus shes got good asmr, so they win on that one i guess

>> No.17597447

>>17596496
While I agree, people on /here/ seem to forget that opening a branch isnt as simple as gathering a local cast for vtubers, it needs to be able to stand on its own feet and run competently.

KR might be a growing market, but its one that would need a large amount of investment (having partnerships with big-name Korean entertainment companies or capturing the anime-loving audience) to solidify itself considering the culture behind Korean entertainment. And even with all of this, shit could still hit the fan given the love-hate relationship Koreans have with Japs. HoloKR is difficult to predict considering the amount of money Yagoo is sitting on, but is he willing to spend it on something that could grow steadily or flop REALLY HARD, is the question.

>> No.17597483

>>17596800
>>17596862
I see, read and saw that Isegye Idol was created by a dullahan. Smart of him to leverage his own popularity while capitalizing trends to launch the "first" virtual idol group in Korea.

>> No.17597568

>>17597447
The thing is, he should really be rushing to get a HoloKR branch set up if he wants, right now Hololive has major mindshare in korea, but it won't always be this way. If he takes his time to slowly work through all that then by the time it drops it's likely that everyone would've already move on.

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>>17597035

>> No.17597727

>>17597035
>>17597150
>>17597397
So this is the new nijicope

>> No.17597781

>>17596496
If you lurk at NijiKR thread you'll notice that the problem with KR is the gook society since harrasment can come to non-nijis too, so the question if you wanna expand there is will you invest enough to keep your chuubas safe against the most hostile netizens out there? If you can then sure give it some years and it might catch up to CN/JP but if you fail there, then you'll fall in the harshest controversies there

>> No.17597835

>>17597781
I would hire gooks that live in japan

>> No.17597956

>>17597835
Roha... failed her university examination, so she got forced back to Korea.

>> No.17597971

>>17597835
That will only anger the gooks even more since they will take it that nijisanji doesn't trust gook management or look down on gook talent in kr

>> No.17598018

>>17594270
someone pls send mythia analytics

>> No.17598054

>>17597035
I guess they also fake donation to themselves and that's why they massively destroy all competition in terms of superchat too, right ?

>> No.17598073

>>17597971
anon at a certain point you just have to accept that some people are going to get angry and cut your losses, trying to please everyone is a fool's errand that just leads to ruin

>> No.17598177

>>17597396
Too late.
NijiKR without Bora is already lost cause.

>> No.17598222

>>17597568
>right now Hololive has major mindshare in korea
Thats an issue too, though. Would the interest in current Holo members transfer to a potential KR branch?
>by the time it drops it's likely that everyone would've already move on
If that does happen, then doesnt that mean there wasnt a potential market in KR? While the gap between Hololive and Nijisanji is big, Niji is still amongst the top 3 biggest vtuber companies in the world. Holo would definitely take a good look at where Niji went wrong. And from what Im seeing, beyond employing better management, Niji had no control over publicity and the hostile mentality Koreans have with their entertainers. Yagoo is in a very difficult position here, and a repeat of HoloCN is highly possible.

>> No.17598226

>>17596041
kek I love the "Ayame hates Koreans meme", it's fucking hilarious every time.

>> No.17598376

>>17597035
> nijicope even outside of /#/
did King slip or something?

>> No.17598415

>>17598222
Niji's main problem is that they let NijiKR basically handle everything themselves trusting that they know their own local market best, and then when it became evident that NijiKR management are a bunch of shitheads who can't even do a basic background check they just let them carry on instead of, you know, stepping in and doing some aggressive restructuring or literally anything to get them back on track.

So yes, "employing better management" might seem like a minor thing, but it could make all the difference between a floundering branch and successful one, and whatever their other faults, Cover understands the value of having good support staff.

>> No.17598448

>>17598376
Nope he won gold

>> No.17598458

>>17594045
>>17594019
>Hada
She only stays with KR because they have zero requirements for streaming hours and she likes that.

>> No.17598512

>>17598458
That goes for all of nijisanji, don't believe in ever rrat

>> No.17598555

>>17598415
Success papers over a lot of problems and lack of it exposes them. No amount of management restructuring is gonna make people watch the streams. The only one that ever got popular got that way because she spoke Japanese and had a 90% Japanese fandom. Koreans just aren't interested.

>> No.17598567

>>17598448
so evidently the default state of nijiniggers is coping

>> No.17598608

>>17598555
the success of hololive and other Kr vtubers in korea shows that there is interest in vtubers over tehre, they just don't like nijisanji.

>> No.17598613

>>17598567
It might surprise a newfag but this board isn't one person

>> No.17598636

>>17593670
>not male VTubers
Fuck

>> No.17598637

>>17597035
From a completely objective standpoint ignoring this fag, the reason why Hololive has gained much more traction is because they went hard on the EOP pandering starting with Coco, and ultimately culminating with the very first EN branch in the realm of major vtubing companies.
The fundamental logic of Youtube's algorithm is simple: the bigger your numbers, the more you are made visible in recommendations and pushed to the top on searches. The hype generated from Myth's debut became a feedback loop within Youtube's algorithm that attracts more and more audiences until the recommendations/search pages for vtubers became ultimately dominated by Hololive. This influx of overseas niki hijacking the algorithm had a global impact that even reached within Japan, leading to Nijisanji falling off dominance domestically (but still being a major powerhouse). Just a year prior Myth's debut, the searches for Vtubers were equally dominated by Holo, Niji and upd8 + Kizuna Ai.
With the algorithm now heavily skewed in favor of Hololive, it's a monumental challenge for NijiEN to try and sway viewers towards them, let alone restore the algorithm back to what it used to be pre-2020. They have some algorithm visibility nowadays thanks to Luxiem, but their main way of getting audiences is still via word of mouth.
There is also the factor of content creators, especially fanartists, chasing whichever franchise is the most popular in order to gain numbers themselves. And these trend-hopping content creators create a cascading bandwagon effect on other creators that persuades them to do the same just because "everyone else is doing it". The shift of vtuber fanworks towards Hololive ensures that potential audiences browsing twitter, pixiv, danbooru or any other art site get exposed to holos more.
Sure, some bottery might be involved, but they most likely come from diehard fans trying to boost their oshi/corpo, or in some Hololive cases chinks inadvertently boosting views while spamming chat, rather than being operations from the corpos themselves.

>> No.17598651

>>17598458
Does she not stream very much? If so then yeah she would be a poor fit for EN. I don't think I've seen a more singularly focused group of hardcore streamers. 4 waves, 15 people and not a slacker in the bunch. Their most infrequent streamer would fall within the upper half of Hololive and the upper 1/4th of Nijisanji as a company.

>> No.17598732

>>17597035
nijibros are funny, like their talents discord chat kek

>> No.17598757

>>17598608
The same was true in China, Japanese Hololive was popular, the Holo CN never really was. CN being segregated by platform, language, and an authoritarian government with tight internet rules was part of that. If they can find Koreans that speak either Japanese or English that could ameliorate the problem, if it's Koreans that just speak Korean it wouldn't surprise me if even Hololive would fall on it's face in that market.

>> No.17598777

>>17597727
chemistry cope is over? now it's viewer bots? nijibros nooooo kek

>> No.17598814

>>17598651
How infrequent are holoEN? Honest question, do not watch them.

>> No.17598883

>>17598757
China is different though, precisely because of this
>CN being segregated by platform, language, and an authoritarian government with tight internet rules
Korea doesn't have all that so presumably they won't suffer from that issue

>> No.17598930

>>17598608
Stop looking at this situation with your raging hate boner for Nijisanji you tribalfagging shitter. You sound like a numbernigger LARPing like they "actually care" for the "success of the industry" while focusing on a single fucking company. Think with your head, it isnt difficult

>> No.17598978

>>17598930
Cope seethe and mald over facts you chucklefuck

>> No.17598991

>>17598814
I would say only Gura and Ame but not by a large margin.

>> No.17599016 [DELETED] 

thread is officially dead, faggots from >>>vt/#/ took over what was actually a productive and interesting conversation about vtubing in Korea.

>> No.17599072

>>17593670
>More females retiring.
Manjsanji is real

>> No.17599110

>>17598978
>facts
kek youre pretty funny, anon

>>17599016
Yep, seriously nice discussion we had here. Unfortunate that this is the way 4chin works

>> No.17599128

>>17598814
Ina, Kiara, Mori, Bae, IRyS when she's healthy tend to stream 5+ days a week
Ame, Gura, Fauna, Kronii, Mumei 4 but all except for Fauna have erratic scheduling
Sana streams the least

They're not as bad as people portray but the cancellations and social media ghosting some of them do tend to annoy people disproportionally.

>> No.17599144

>>17598930
But he's right tho, NijiKR has been infamous there since the Moarin scandal, ever since that moment it's just constant trial and error for NijiKR to fix their already tarnished brand

>> No.17599183

>>17598814
Not going to go into hours here, you can ask /#/ for the exact breakdown if you're interested
>Gura
Averages 5ish streams a week, but this includes collabs and membership streams, so the number of streams on her channel appears a bit less than that.
>Mori
Normally quite active with 5+ streams a week, but recent events have resulted in no schedules so unknown for the future
>Kiara
5+ streams a week, tends to go long on tangents during SC readings
>Ina
4-5 streams a week, has art-related stuff for roommate work so doesn't usually go for long hours
>Ame
Sporadic. Some weeks she's been outright missing and others it's 5+ streams. Suspected health issues being the primary cause of the instability.
IRyS
Normally 4-5 streams that go long, but recent throat issues means she's out until it's healed
>Sana
Sigh, Sana...very infrequent(relative to everyone else) tends to go very long hours for pokemon but also has a bad tendency to vanish for several days with nothing after.
>Bae
Streams the most often in Council, is streaming EVERY day for the month of February.
>Fauna
4+ streams a week
>Mumei
Is a uni student, so lots of guerilla streams when she gets the time outside of her scheduled streams. Can be as low as 3 a week but guerillas often bring that up to 5+
>Kronii
Was doing well with January, about 5 streams a week, but she's currently got no schedule. Her split is in shambles over it at the moment, but that split is...well, it's something.

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>>17599110
>No it's not nijisanji that fucked up expanding into the market, it's Korea that doesn't have interest in vtubers. My favourite company can do no wrong
Cope seethe and mald

>> No.17599336

>>17598883
Korea also has segregated platforms, twitch is the most popular foreign platform over there, but the biggest potential numbers are in Korean exclusive platforms. YouTube is pretty niche in Korea. While they don't have authoritarian government, their netizen is notoriously vicious, enough to make bugs look normal and supportive.

>> No.17599472

>>17599226
>My favourite company
Yeah, definitely.

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>>17598814
Most of holoEN are very erratic in their scheduling. On a good week Gura can top even Kiara in terms of stream times, but there have been many weeks where Gura, and any other HoloEN, goes absent. Most weeklong breaks usually are announced, but Ame and Sana have a notorious tendency to just go AWOL. On middling weeks, 3 (public) streams have become the norm, most notably with Kronii and Mumei. /infinity/ had a meltdown back in October where she had her first week featuring only 3 streams.

NijiEN meanwhile keeps powering through despite implied family issues, pet deaths, and illnesses. Weeklong breaks are very rare. The longest break someone has been on is Pomu back in July for two weeks, to recover from a major surgery.

>> No.17599572

>>17599183
Kroniis computer is dead with 20k+ errors hence the lack of schedule.

>> No.17599904

>>17593670
>Not Luxiem or any male fuckfaces of Niji
Godfuckingdammit

>> No.17599952

Another one? If there isn't something wrong behind the scenes, why is there so much turnover at Nijisanji? If it's so great, why aren't they staying?

>> No.17599954

>>17599572
That was a memory test

>> No.17599998

>>17599952
There is, scroll up

>> No.17600001

>>17598777
viewer bots has been a cope for a long time, but it was usually just pushed by some dude in numbers

>> No.17600063

>>17600001
no, it's been pushed everywhere, numbers is just where it pops up the most often because it always gets replies

>> No.17600100

>>17599128
>>17599183
>>17599514
thread gets derailed, calms down and numberfags show up to talk about something else.

>> No.17600108

>>17599954
Which she doesn't have the knowledge to fix via troubleshooting and replacing the memory herself so shes sending it back to the prebuilder for warranty repair.
Its effectively dead until the bad module is pulled.

>> No.17600168

>>17599183
To be fair in Sana's case that's understandable. She literally pulled two 22 hour (in total) streams over the past two days. Before that she streamed the most of of EN in a week (thanks to her long streams). I think she should just become the Nintendo fan of EN, seems like she's an actual Nintendo nerd. The month break was weird but I feel bad for her because she is grinding on art commissions harder than Ina.

>> No.17600192

If something ever happens to Suha, I'll be a gook chuuba anti until the end of time

>> No.17600263

>>17593670
As long as Suha min is alive KR will live.

>> No.17600306

So Bora leaving was a sign.

>> No.17600308

>>17600108
Why are vtuber women so tech illiterate even though they work with computers every day?

>> No.17600325
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Man this sucks. I've been a fan of Siu for a little while now. I was going through some bad insomnia/fuxked up sleep schedule when I found her stream. Even though I can't speak Korean she made the streams fun, just her energy and how she interacted with chat. Even without understanding her she seemed like a funny person. Since EN came out I hadn't watched her as much but I would still come around sometimes and always had fun when I did. I was really happy when I had seen more people had been coming to see her and NijiKR as a whole. She seemed really happy about the new outfit. I had no idea about this management stuff and didn't really realize how inactive she's been since she's still been tweeting so much. I'll miss her and it's sad to see her go. Hope she has a good life even if she doesn't reincarnate, thanks for the fun Siu

>> No.17600332

>>17600168
The problem is that she's not actually a nintendo nerd, she's a pokemon nerd and cover has some really weird thing going on with pokemon where they can only get time limited permissions.

>> No.17600416

>>17600308
The majority of people are tech illiterate.

>> No.17600485

>>17600168
The month break is because she went home after a pet died and Aus has utterly retarded draconian quarantine requirements.
You are basically locked in a hotel for 2 weeks any time you travel between provinces, each way.

>> No.17600629

>>17600416
Thank God. My employment is secured.

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Siu.........

>> No.17600695

>>17600629
It's good to know that even in the far future when robots have taken over all menial tasks there'll still be a need for human technicians to service those retards who somwhow manage to fuck up their idiot proof personal assistants

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>>17600647
Siu....

>> No.17600777

>>17600647
Sell me on sui

>> No.17600893

>>17600695
Ever read The Time Machine by Herbert Wells? It provides a good example of such situation.

>> No.17600897

Yep, this thread is not usable anymore, moving on my kr friend

>> No.17600946

>>17594897
Is there another market left?

>> No.17600989

>>17600893
I actually have not, the only HG Wells book I read is war of the worlds. I should give it a look some day

>> No.17601017

>>17600946
I’m telling you guys Middle Eastern Vtubers are the next big thing. It’s an untapped market

>> No.17601046

>>17600946
RU, EU, ES, KR, IN are pretty much the big ones that are left untouched. There's africa and the middle east but I wouldn't exactly call them stable markets.

>> No.17601069

>>17601017
I mean, you joke, but...
https://twitter.com/idol_corp/status/1485278403444244483

>> No.17601152

>>17594843
Fucking chink bootlicker is killing her sisters...

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>>17601069
oy vey

>> No.17601262

>>17594259
Where is all the come home posters when you need them
Fucking useless!

>> No.17601376

>>17601017
>>17601069
>>17601046
Why would Middle East Vtubers be a joke? Actual Oil Balons are massive weebs if the internet is to be believed.

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Hada, Hari. Seffyna
Come home

>> No.17601856

>>17594447
Yagoo can save her

>> No.17601958

>>17597835
That's literally what they did with Roha. They also hired a Japanese who is studying abroard in South Korea to further promote unity and she was ignored by management for over a year.

>> No.17602143

>>17601958
Nagi too.

>> No.17602219

The ghost of Moarin continues to haunt Niji KR to this day... So many of Niji KR's issues come from the acquisition of 541 E&C. It's actually crazy how much drama this branch has for its size.
It sucks. I love Niji KR and want the members to succeed. But after these graduations, I genuinely think the branch is dying to the point of being visibly rotten. The Yuya/Bora graduations at least had some level of plausible deniability, but Siu and Yami leaving at the same time is pretty transparently a result of how management handled Ara.
Niji KR desperately needs Enikara to clean house and fire KR's incompetent management, but I seriously doubt Enikara cares enough about KR to do that. I just don't see a bright future for Niji KR.

>> No.17602308

Why is there a pause on voice packs, what sense is there to do that?

>> No.17602387

>>17601696
They are at home, bronie.

>> No.17602473

>>17602143
The fact that their most successful livers (Nagi, Bora, Yuya, Seffyna, Hada) are all JP and EN adjacents really did not sit well with their management. I have never seen a branch try so hard to sabotage themselves.

>> No.17602499

>>17602387
a sinking ship is no home, nigger

>> No.17602584

>>17601696
As long as this might be a provoking shitpost i would gladly see them trade places if that helps them grow to a sizeable fanbase. It's disheartening seeong Seffyna busts her ass off and have borderline no recognition.

>> No.17602725

>>17602473
Nationalism at it's best I guess.
How funny it is, that they see their most successful members are En and JP adjacents and instead of using them to boost their local ones or just try harder for them to suceed they just sabotage them.

>> No.17602805

>>17601696
honestly, with Yagoo's savior complex that might just be the best solution

>> No.17602857

>>17602584
Yeah, it's frustrating to see honestly, even more so when orobably most of her exposure comes from her interactions with EN and not her hard work with music.

>> No.17602863

>>17602499
Are all bronies racist?

>> No.17602941

>>17602863
report him for racism then, if you can't stand it

>> No.17602963

>>17602499
i would rather not have seffyna suck walt disney corporate cock like hololive girls

>> No.17602982

Time to try North Korean chuubas next.

>> No.17602996

>>17602941
>him
It's obviously that it's still you.

>> No.17603081

>>17602963
>Oh no, girls like disney, they are clearly being paid off
why are nijiniggers like this?

>> No.17603208

>>17603081
Who do you think you’re fooling bronie

>> No.17603285

>>17603208
answer the question nigger

>> No.17603320

>>17603081
No one likes disney in this age unless they are paid.

>> No.17603385

>>17603320
>this is what nijiniggers actually believe

>> No.17603448 [DELETED] 

>>17603285
You answer my question you fat faggot. Walt Disney cum slurping, kiddie stream watching Indonesian nigger

>> No.17603456

>>17594908
>the first wave has dwindled down to 1 guy, Min Suha, who is an avid Nijifan and has been watching his branch deteriorate with no power to help since managers only listen to those with good numbers
Honestly, this is probably what saddens me the most, poor Suha has had to watch his branch fall apart little by little, be controlled by incompetent management and attacked by their supposed target demo and never get anything while other international branches get tons of things and extremely passionate fans and mangement.
And he can do nothing but watch as no one respects him or takes him seriously in spite of being the last member of the first wave, that's depressing as shit and dude just keeps on trucking and hoping for the best in spite of it all, hopefully things get better for NijiKR

>> No.17603498

>>17603320
you could have made an even better point than this, you utter retarded ape...

>> No.17603512

>>17596496
> extremely bad
> Vox, Elira and many others are the fastest growing in the company

>> No.17603585

>>17603448
The nijinigger screeches in pain as he flails about in desperation.

>> No.17603607

>>17603498
>retarded ape
How ironic

>> No.17603615

>>17603498
if he wasn't retarded he wouldn't be a nijinigger

>> No.17603876

>>17603456
his wife Taka will take care of him

>> No.17605558

If nijiniggers knew the KR management is shit, why they haven't pushed against anycolor to clean the shits? We could be reaching a literal civil court duel between livers vs management and the nips in anycolor won't even think about it as an 'oh shit we fucked up' moment?

>> No.17606087

>>17605558
Because you are wrong and everything you said is wrong and retarded.

>> No.17606209

>>17606087
you seriously need to learn how to damage control better than that, anon

>> No.17606262

>>17606209
>"I literally have nothing to say"

>> No.17606358

>>17606262
>Look at me I'm deflecting

>> No.17606390

>>17605558
Take your meds

>> No.17606394

>>17606358
see>>17606262

>> No.17606449

>>17606394
see >>17606358

>> No.17606492

>>17606449
You are as original as any holobronie.

>> No.17606587

>>17594019
If they did then Towa wouldn't be able to collab with her all the time.

>> No.17606717

>>17606492
Ah, yes, namecalling, the last resort of the desperate nijinigger

>> No.17606736

>>17606717
>namecalling
Oh the irony.

>> No.17606825

>>17606587
my guy, its hada not bora

>> No.17606885

>>17606717
>>17606736
Now kiss

>> No.17606895

>>17606736
Wait a minute, I know you, you're the guy who tried to do the "Yagoo uses mac, ergo something something apple bad, please become my personal army because apple bad" thing, you're moving onto to Disney bad after that didn't work?

>> No.17606986

>>17606895
No, none of them. Although everyone with a brain hates disney, were you sleeping through the last few years?

>> No.17607050

>>17606986
Yep, you're the same guy. Go back to doing the fagoo thing, your attempts at iterating just make you sound more and more retarded

>> No.17607158

>>17607050
>>17606986
NO HAVE SEX!

>> No.17607180

>>17607050
I don't discuss yagoo because I left behind holoshit in general.

>> No.17607256

>>17607180
He's spooked

>> No.17607315

>>17606895
take meds

>> No.17607367

>>17607315
you're not fooling anyone

>> No.17607371

>>17606825
My bad, all apex players melt into one for me.

>> No.17607404

kr is gonna die before I learn korean sadge

>> No.17607464

>>17607180
>>17607256
>>17607315
>>17607367
Now have orgy sex

>> No.17607487

>>17607464
okay but you'll be in the middle

>> No.17607546

>>17600629
I had a female classmate about ten years ago who did not understand where files were saved to or what a file system even was despite having to do research and write reports constantly. This wasn't some rinky-dink school either, it was one of the best schools in the nation.

>> No.17607656

I just pray Nagi, Hari, Seffy and Hada are safe.

>> No.17607787

Love you Siu

>> No.17608321

Nuke the branch and make VR 2.0 K-pop edition that's the only way to save these chuubas

>> No.17608585

What really baffles me is that Hada saw all this shitshow going on and still auditioned for KR rather than EN. She deserves better but now she's watching her fellow Australian from EN lap her.

>> No.17609141

>>17608585
I'd lap her, too.

>> No.17609154

>>17608585
to be fair, none of the behind the scenes drama went public until this past November which was a year after her audition.

>> No.17609257

>>17594270
The most popular Niji IDs after Hana are Siska and Taka, neither of which really EN pander.

>> No.17609516

>>17597263
Why the fuck would Nijifags want to derail their own thread?
Not claiming it's Holofags either, mind you. It's shitposters who probably watch /#/ more than they watch streams, if they watch streams at all.

>> No.17609546

>>17609516
So, holofags.

>> No.17609611

>>17609516
because it makes them look bad, it's classic deflection. Go "But what about hololive" and suddenly the thread is throwing petty bullshit at each other instead of talking about what a shitty company nijisanji is

>> No.17610073

>>17602308
Worst case they're considering cutting the branch, best case they're finally restructuring the branch and don't want to put people they might end up firing in charge of things.

>> No.17611068

>>17609611
First of all, Nijisanji isn't a company, anycolor is. Second, JP management isn't directly involved with KR. reading this very thread you would know that.

>> No.17611076

>>17601376
yeah, she'd also be the first vtuber to get doxxed because of a mortar attack happening on her neighbourhood while she's streaming

>> No.17611152

>>17611068
And now we've moved from "but what about hololive" to "Argue about semantics and hope no one notices the deflection"

>> No.17611296

>>17595808
Retard

>> No.17611313

>scheduled graduation announcement tweets
>6 hours later
>the main KR account hasn't retweeted either of them
really showing their competence there...

>> No.17611678

>>17611068
>First of all, Nijisanji isn't a company, anycolor is.
First of all, Hololive isn't a company, cover is.

>> No.17611767

>>17611313
If management can't see their colossal failure of a branch then no one else can.

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>>17595805
Oh wow

>> No.17612260

>>17612035
Gooks really love zoombie huh?

>> No.17612275

>>17612035
The friends she made as Yuya was the one good takeaway that she got for joining NijiKR. I hope Bora comes back to us soon. I don't care if it's VSPO, Merise, or even HoloKR as long as she still gets to play with her old friends.

>> No.17612966

>>17594908
I've known KR has had problems since it became a thing, but I never knew Uiha's little sister had so much power. Do you have any links to sources on this stuff though? Because no offense, I trust this board about as far as I can throw it sometimes.

>> No.17613239

>>17612966
it ultimately comes from DCinside which is equally as gossipy at times >>15478447

>> No.17613243

>>17593670
>Not Luxiem or any male fuckfaces of Niji
Godfuckingdammit
Fucking bullshit

>> No.17613392

I'll miss her good morning and good night tweets

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bora sex please just come back

>> No.17615126

>>17596780
>>17597483
What is a dullahan thats the first I've heard the term

>> No.17615245

>>17615126
I think it's a faceless streamer

>> No.17615275

>>17615126
avatar streamers, the same way a lot of old NND utaites represented themselves with avatars instead of showing themself

>> No.17617192
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17617192

this was too precious to be lost forever. Yami's cafe date members stream...
https://me ga nz/file/C1MUUBoC#0LhhZQvR0hea5VFzXNAZqftRZSFCeGHmE-glIpjJ7ow

0:45 눈을 뜸
3:45 카페로 이동
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4:15 찻잎 소개
11:40 찻잎 우리기
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14:05 우리는 동안 토크!
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17:55 컵에 따르기
19:55 후~
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23:00 떡, 그리고 차...
26:00 경단도!
28:05 다시 떡!
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29:45 데이트 종료

>> No.17618622

>>17593670
Shabel Tonya seems to be doing well under Lit Media, I wonder if they could pick up Hada and some other nijiKRs if the whole branch really dies.

>> No.17618855

>>17618622
Tonya really got some managerial love there, I got plenty of ads from her which means that whoever she's with rn at least dares to promote themselves more

>> No.17621563

>>17617192
thank you for saving it anon. I haven't watched or know much about her but I'm glad she made you happy and I'm sorry she's gone.

>> No.17623351

>>17598226
I love it too despite not understanding how it started. Was it because she didn't like Ina's art of her?

>> No.17623508

>>17612275
Does VSPO take Koreans? Would be great if they did

>> No.17623523

If all of NijiKR go down I hope at least Ray can go to JP, she was japanese after all

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