/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

bro maybe we should calm down
Mori will get through this
have a little faith

en were never meant to be idols

now do this with towa or matsuri

>>17583680
>>17583690
>>17583697

>>17583722
I told you to calm down
or else

>>17583627
>She just won't stop malding!
>t.malding neckbeard

>>17583627
this is getting old anon...

What I don't get is that if she never joined Hololive then all the e-celebs she wants to collab with would never give her a look anyway. So not only is she malding, she's malding that Hololive won't let her do something she wouldn't have been able to do without Hololive catapaulting her into instant fame anyway. It's such a selfish fucking mindset. She owes Hololive everything and all she does is complain that she can't give Connor a BJ live on stream.

>>17583697
they don't mad over idol culture

>>17583680
She won't, people who think she's just supposed to be a streamer keep encouraging her.

To be fair, a rapper is the farthest thing from an idol that I can think of. They really gave her mixed signals when they hired her with the full expectation that she'd be doing rap.

It's like
>"My whole shtick is that I'm an irreverent bitch."
>"You're hired!"
>acts like an irreverent bitch
>"Wait you can't do that!"

>>17583829
>unhappy with something
>complains about it
it's pretty straightforward

Her fans are like Dream fans. Every sensible adult knows he cheated but they lashed out with the same no-sense phrases "touch grass" "ratio". Then he confessed. His underaged mentally impaired fans still stand by his side but normal people can judge his behaviour objectively

>>17583829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAOljIgl58

>>17583627
>people expect her to act like an idol
>people

Youre delusional if you think a million people are familiar with idol culture in the west or are interested in anything classic idols stand for.

What made Coco an idol? The only difference between Coco and someone like Kson is that the former has an idol outfit and went on stage to sing. Which mori is gonna do as well by the way. Cope.

>>17584044
This place is going to be amazing when she graduates. Endless deadbeat tears will flow.

>>17583627
What's mald?

>>17584187
It's like a malt for zoomers

How many of you actually believes that she's going to graduate soon?
I mean I can see her graduating but not this year at least.

>>17584187
seethe basically

>>17584187
mad + bald

>>17584044
>Dream
who? your every word drips with dramafag
how many hours do you spend on this shit holy kek
your life prospects must not be much

>>17583697
Towa was a legitimate idol when she was sub 35, wasn’t she?

Mori only joined Hololive to boost her personal exposure, I think its pretty obvious because why would someone who is so against this culture join it lol.

>>17583627
>>>>>>>>>>>>idol company

>>17584182
where's coco now?

>>17584227
I except her to leave before end of the year honestly
It's obvious she got no desire to stay in hololive and people making fun of her get into her head too easily for her to be willing to sty in it, the only question is if she will go absolute full retard and get fired or will she graduate normally

>>17583697
Both Towa and Matsuri are not against being idols or idol culture. Yes they interact with other streamers, but they still embrace being an idol and the expectations around that which is something Mori lacks

>>17584417
Yes now fuck off with your reddit jokes

>>17584428
Getting numbers comparable to Moona

>>17584350
you're projecting little kid. Takes 10 seconds to write a post

>>17584182
Coco never flashed her tits and ass like a twitch streamer whore.

>>17583627
wiggers get bullied for a reason
and deservingly so

>>17584433
This is word-for-word the exact same shit people said with Kiara last year. You people are full of yourselves.

>>17584227
She will quit, but only after she gets permanent residence. She'll be eligible in late 2024 if I remember correctly?

>>17583993
The only people who claim she can't do that are faggots who are retarded enough to buy into that idol bullshit without knowing a thing or two about idols.

cover is a cutting edge electronic entertainment company.

>>17584182
>Which mori is gonna do as well by the way.
What if 3D is happening this way in order for Mori to show off her model before leaving?

>>17584632
I don't remember Kiara disliking the job

>>17584511
>Id tier
get fucked reddit whore

>>17583680
I'm not the one having meltdowns on twitter, reddit and 4chan and I don't write angsty, edgy songs to vent.

Spoonfeed me, what's happening in 7 hours?

>>17584579
>>17584738
you seem a little mad

>>17584877
>>17581600

>>17584877
Rapschizo drops his Mori disstrack magnum opus

>>17583993
It's almost as if /vt/ is full of shit and the company itself is fine with her, or at least until she went over the line with the cuck image or the lean twit.

>>17585496
this shit legit had no proper flow, clearly written by some white dude

>>17585606
>or at least until she went over the line with the cuck image or the lean twit.
Another /vt/ sister moment only, Cover has no problems with Mori whatsoever

>>17585496
Where's the Watame rapper when you need him?

>>17585606
I don't think they care at all, with her song views they'll allow her as long as she doesn't start staying like racist stuff on twitter.

>>17584489
reddit doesn't use the >green text meme though

>>17585732
lmao, look, a nig nog

>>17585749
I mean she deleted the image and apologized. It was too much even for her, even if it wasn't enough for an actual suspension like retards here said.

>>17583627
>Nijis collab with VShoujo all the time
>Nijis are going to collab with Charlie
>Nijis have Castlevania SOTN and Metal Gear Rising permissions
How hard is she seething that she picked the wrong company?

>>17586180
A cuckbeat willing to admit Callie acted retarded? Holy shit, you're basically an endangered species at this point

>>17586351
nah most of us know she made a mistake, but schitzos here are pretending like its bigger then it was.

>>17586251
>Nijis are going to collab with Charlie
As in one-on-one collab or will it be like like that other fuckfest with like 20 other twitch streamers playing crab game?

>>17583680
Mori has two options:
>drop TT and alcohol, get closer with her ENmates, and maybe start to enjoy the fame as a holo
>keep hanging with losers with trash opinions, mald exponentially, lose her mind and graduate

>>17583627
She signed up as a JOKE.

>>17584227
Unless Calli keeps this up this'll be forgotten in a month
but apparently being told to calm down or act professional just makes her madder

>>17586824
She's already made up her mind

>>17586966
Imagine being one of the hundreds of rejected applicants

>>17586251
>>17586608
charlie collab disproved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcUGixouG4g

>>17583697
IDOLS should Not have MALE friends
to be free from schizos and drama sadly towa and Matsuri are whores just like Mori

>>17585732
What do you niggers know about flow? The only flow you animals know of is gonorrhea.

>>17587098
Imagine being the "friend" who applied, got rejected, and then hearing your "friend" say she only applied to spite you for a single comment.

>>17585732
>>17587202
nigger rap culture is a disease regardless of who's in it

imagine malding over criticism

not surprised mori's the way she is

>>17584227
I mean when you lash out at and belittle the very fans who make you, you deserve to graduate

>>17585732
This, but I believe it can still be salvaged. I'm sure Mori's got black antis. Where are they when you need them?

>>17585496
babby's first AABBCC rhyme

>>17587243
You're correct only on the point of sub-human "culture" as degenerative.

>>17587320
Kek

>>17583697
It's not about males you monkey. Their collabs with APEX streamers aren't the same as Mori orbiting TT retards, neither are JP collabs with ZUN or Tomokazu Sugita because they are fucking based. Besides no one could accuse them of shitting on idol stuff. Towa is a sweet girl who loves her fans, she likes other Holos and they like her, has collabs not only outside but also inside of Holo frequently, organized Mario Kart tournament, and on top of all that she's prominent in actual idol stuff. Good at singing and her EP is coming out soon, always good performance at lives. Matsuri might be worse because she's a menhera who bitches at her fans sometimes and has problems with other Holos, but still she collabs with Holo girls and when she's not being obnoxious she actually can be pretty funny and have nice chemistry with them. And she's going super hard on her idol reps, really good at dancing, her live performances are amazing and always nice to look at. Don't compare them to Mori who still can't be shitted to know her coworkers better and to dip into culture that gave her fame and success even a bit. Forget hard work, while everyone around her is embracing Holo life and trying to improve in their own ways she's still just a weird American girl who thinks that being anime girl is cringe.

>>17587072
It's like I'm watching a train wreck in slow motion. How can she be this dumb? Meanwhile I'm over here with good ideas but no money to make them happen, I'm stuck with working my ass off to make something from nothing while I actually work for money. She knows how bad it is out there. What the actual fuck?

>>17587122
Fuck, my boys are collabing with whores...

>>17584187
mad + bald
I think it's a term that comes from twitch, it started being used here more and more after EN collabed with vshojo.

>>17587527
She's arrogant, ungrateful, and unwilling to compromise her "values".

I still can't believe she replied with some cringe "witty" remark to fan art of her cucking her fanbase
That is a legendary yab

>>17583993
>They really gave her mixed signals when they hired her with the full expectation that she'd be doing rap.
What the fuck are you implying? Rap is all she HAS been doing. They've even let her do a roommate EP while still under contract and do Mori collabs with rappers outside of Hololive.

>>17583627
>Oh no idol culture is so oppressive.
>I have to keep my private life and work life seperate like 99.99% of adults.
>It's so hard to do something every person with a real job has to do.
But the reason I will keep shitposting is her fans. All anti-idol ironic weeaboos.

>>17587243
calm your racism dude

>>17588947
im a weeb and hate idol bullshit, touch grass

>>17589001
Go back nigger

>>17588557
Does anyone e have the original SS with the art and reply? I forgot to save it

>>17583627
Chinks were right. Hope she gets the Coco treatment.

>>17584227
As soon as she figures out how to not get deported because of losing her Visa she's gone.

>>17589056

>>17589038
Then you’re not really a weeb you faggot

>>17589038
>im a weeb
All ironic weebs say that, faggot.

>>17589056
>>17589090
Also looking for that Mori Tweet reply, but it in Needy Streamer style with Kangel replace Mori. Anyone have that picture?

>>17585496
i need to see this happening lol. I hope people will keep support him

>>17583627
What did she mean by this

>>17588947
Those are both valid reasons to rag on her really. Regular workplaces can have a ton of rules of conduct, etiquitte and such. I've had to watch a number of training videos over the years on in summary, not being dicks to each other at work, how to actively avoid microaggressions and patch up any misgivings about each other etc. People need to tolerate the work environment for work to not wind up driving everyone into a schizo depression over the years.

If you ask yourself "has she never worked a professional career where everyone holds back on preaching/projecting" it sounds like well, the answer is in fact no she never really has. Not only is Holo like that but it's all under maximum scrutiny of the public eye every fucking second of every day, she is always under the microscope of the fandom. That's all shit she should have thought much more carefully about before going off the wal

>>17589038
>hate idol bullshit
You couldn't even tell me what "idol bullshit" is if you tried. You'd need twitter to tell you what to say first. Fuck off, loser.

A lot of newfags and surface-level fans, including many applicants like Mori, thought Hololive was a mere streamer-Vtuber company like Nijisanji. The idol thing wasn't publicly apparent until around the Aloe arc, where by then it was too late to back out for her.

She either doesn't understand or just doesn't care that being a vtuber, especially one contracted to a company, has certain expectations and obligations that make her different from a normal e-whore streamer. She should just graduate at this point because she apparently can't even go a single day without adding yet another yab to her long, long list. Every single one not only makes her look bad, but also reflects poorly on her genmates and Hololive as a whole. Honestly, them not shutting her behavior down and disciplining her already reflects pretty poorly on them.

this is what idols do is it?

>>17589090
Seriously, what was she thinking? Did she actually think that cringe tweet was some kind of own or good way to handle it?

>>17589598
snoopdoog is an idol

>>17589551
The longer they go not telling her to shut the fuck up and giving her a suspension only makes her bolder, and makes it harder to tell her to do it in the future. If they don't punish her for reviewing cuck fanart of her having sex with an eceleb, what can they punish her for? Omega's ego simple does not allow for one of his idols (kek) to do any wrong, so he ignores it.

>>17585732
perfect for mori then, what's the problem

No, she is not your daughter
Your wife or your role model
You aren't her boss, or her mom, or her dad
And you've gotta reassess if the shit make you sad

>>17586824
if she has a model she's a goner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-M3VD3TzQ

>>17589598
i believe this stuff wouldnt fly even if she was a IRL streamer, idol bullshit isnt the problem, mental breakdowns and lack of loyalty for the company you work for are.

>>17589551
Considering Matsuri had za hando and she handled it fucking terribly, changing her RM twitter banner to a big middle finger in reponse, and didn't even get suspended? Cover is incredibly fucking spineless sometimes. On the other hand, Ramy got suspended over fucking laughing at a joke about janitors. Both incidents set off big internet mobs in Japan but the way-worse one went totally unpunished - because it wasn't on a Hololive account. It looks peculiar on the surface but when considering Lamy/gen5's thing happened on Cover's clock/accounts that's why they reacted.

So then, where's the slap for Mori officially sanctioning deadbeats as cucks to connor? It looked like everything was poised to deliver one but it never came. Whatever Mori's about to do off the Holo clock probably would go unpunished just like Matsuri's so the only recourse is to ding her for what she already did do as a Holo.

>>17589658
wait has any talents ever commented on hentai fanarts before?
even pomu only praises lewd ecchi at best

>>17589736
They have but never in this kind of context of Mori's situation. Which in of itself is kind of unique in Holo as far as I can recall.

I’m waiting for this bitch to get the boot one of these days

>>17589736
Since you mentioned NijiEN, Finana used to comment and retweet a lot of her lewd fanart, and Enna will sometimes indirectly thank/comment an artist on a separate thread (so the NSFW piece doesn't show up on her feed).

>>17589736
They've liked and (in some cases I think) retweeted lewder pics of themselves, but never one that depicted themselves sleeping with an eceleb guy that some of their fanbase takes issue with, while a depiction of their own fanbase cries. Chamers had her big lewd review even, but didn't laugh at her audience and call them cucks indirectly, most people would consider that pretty fuckin weird.

>>17589711
Cuckbeats take it like the cucks they are
Japanese fans would never stand for it
That's why there's a difference between how the situations are handled between EN and JP

>>17583627
I'll do you one better.
>collabs with grifter anituber ecelebs who has shat on Hololive and tries to normalize it
>idolfags get pissed
>retards call idolfags out and how they hate idolfags and that they're everything wrong with the vtubing industry
>yet these same retards watch and have oshis in an idol company
>???

>>17583627
They never branded the EN branch as an Idol Company, you retards.

>>17589941
>anituber ecelebs who has shat on Hololive
okay haley

https://youtu.be/nP-M3VD3TzQ

is she gonna leave? do the same thing Kson did and quietly promote her other account more and more and then quit?

>>17589635
I mean, anyone without autism can tell it was a sarcastic joke meant to belittle the haters. The only real problem is she didn't realise that trying to act like a tweet hasn't bothered you by responding like that only shows that it actually really bothered you.

>>17590024
Not before Holofes

>>17590024
You mean like how Kiara has been preparing to leave for months based on roommate activity?
It's fine to have a Plan B for if you get fired, and fine to have a life away from work.

>>17589682
>RULES:
>-Drinking stupid bitch juice gets a ban.
Holy irony

>>17590117
>Kiara been preparing to leave for months
>Did one birthday stream and some inconsequential tweet about her life
You're reaching.

>>17590039
Anon, you are the one suffering from autism. Everyone, literally everyone, realizes that she's sarcastic. The issue is bringing it up in the first place (no, you don't need to reply to every shitty tweet on your official account) and that it was a week fucking old post by a literally who anti account that she tried to own. How fucking mad AND dumb do you need to be in order to do it?

>>17589711
>On the other hand, Ramy got suspended over fucking laughing at a joke about janitors.
she wasn't. are you the same anon who tried to push this in another thread and got called retarded for it ?

>>17590220
what actually happened there?

>>17590282
Lamy got spammed and took some time off and called it "being sick" (probably just sick of the retards spamming her chat)

>>17590024
Some time i dream about a timeline where Mori is like a EN's CoCo, who deeply care and defence her gen-mate, kouhais and senpais may not as fun as CoCo when collab but still, like CoCo never stop trying to improve her singing voice, Mori will also try to improve her japanese and collab skills. One she will eventually graduated, she will be remember as EN's big sister and EN gen0 Vsinger beloved and miss by everyone in the agency, desire by many other music company. Her music career will be successful and maybe one in a while she will help Hololive making news song for the new generation to come. What a stupid dream, i hate myself.

>>17586824
>>17587527
>>17588661
Man, you faggots are so up your own ass with your head cannons of what holos should be and Mori's interpersonal relationships. Literal confirmation bias at work. You have narratives made up in your head that she HATES the other EN girls (nevermind all of the collaborations, including spontaneous voice chat calls and efforts to set fun projects up for the other EN and even ID girls) as well as other shit because she had a menhera attack thanks to faggots like you blowing shit out of proportion. Now you're chimping out because the start of activities elsewhere when this is literally nothing new with other vtubers in any corpo. No matter what she does she can't win with you faggots. You'll find a way to twist it as some kind of coded message that she hates her job and she hates (you).

>>17590282
she and botan said some methaphor about, when you work years in a company and is still a low level worker and JP schizos got mad.

>>17590024
She's not happy, she should leave. She's big enough to make it as an indie, she has a shitton amount of followers who'll gladly do everything she wants them to. It's stupid for Mori to stay in Hololive.

>>17590367
yeah she cant win thats why she shouldnt do it, even if she literaly suck /vt/ dick they would still shit on her, trying to win is losing. just get the fuck away from the drama.

>>17590376
>>17590282
if i remember right Botan,Lamy and Polka were playing MC then Marine showed up and tried to recruit them to Akuqin, they asked her what her possition is in the company , she said janny then i think Polka made a joke about how she is still a janny after all this time and the other laughed at it. for some reason most of the antis focused on Lamy despite her not even being the one who made the joke

>>17590314
She very clearly never really gave a shit about Hololive in the first place, I dunno why people would think she would work to learn and love it. Maybe some people would but she only ever LARPed as doing this and we see now she really hasn't changed a bit on the inside. Gee it's almost like we all read her like a fucking book 1 week in and all the "mori does not care about hololive" spam was right all along. People just were in denial. Really if you think about it what you have here is a brainstorm of fucking thousands of people all allowed to say what they really think potentially and somehow everyone cued in on that "she doesn't like hololive" conclusion and it resonated widely.

She didn't even really know what Holo was on applying and it seemed gave the most casual half-assed application you could muster, but for whatever reason the nips took her in ASAP. IIRC she said her interview was actually really short and they practically hired her instantly on her first 'guh'. I do see a connection in that she/ame/gura all had some kind of aspiration to be voice actors at some point, maybe they took that to mean like "hey if she wants to be a seiyuu she's totally hip on all the otaku/idol stuff too then" and that's kind-of true for Gura, not true for Ame but she doesn't have a bitchfit about it and goes with the flow, and utterly not true at all for Mori.

>>17583627
>endorse a faggot anituber that trash talks your company and colleagues
>constantly bites anti bait
>goes on a drunk fueled yabpalooza on social media
>her deadcucks pamper her and drown her on donation money
>posts a song in her roommate account shittslking the same fans that enable her
>deadcucks clap
Jeezas

>>17590456
Because Lamy is the easiest target. I often think that's why Aqua still has so many antis despite never really doing anything to deserve it.

>>17590488
Gura might be as big a lolicon as her audience is

>>17583627
All she had to do was not comment on a week-old comic depicting cuckoldry, disrespecting her fans in the process. That's all. But she did it anyway.

the funniest thing about this is the antis proving connor right when they call mori talentless because she got success being in hololive despite this claim
fucking hilarious

>>17590572
not even, all she had to do was not respond with "can I please have some fun." when called out on it.

>>17590515
worst part is that them going for Lamy got to Polka more than anything else. she really clammed up after that and avoided collabs for a long time. But yeah they go for Aqua because they manage to get reactions out of her that validate them.tho she did get better

>>17590589
I think Mori is talented, I just dislike her.

>>17590593
>not even
No, that's all she had to do. Don't minimize anything.

>not respond with "can I please have some fun." when called out on it.
You know what this reminded me of? When girls with boyfriends get caught flirting with other men. Just a passing thought of mine.

>>17590515
easiest target was probably Aloe, may she walk free.

>>17590672
Aloe was long gone by that point anon

>>17590685
exactly, that's why she was the first one to go.

>>17590650
she is extremely untalented at damage control

>>17587122
amazing, I never thought I'd say trhis, but Reimu and Nyanners are unironically the best ones in that collab holy shit

>>17590656
I meant that that kind of irony only works if you don't drop the bit; that reveals you as a thin-skinned tryhard.

>>17590794
Vox is more entertaining anyone else in that picture (not by much for some of them).

>>17587122
still think it's extremely weird how holoJP, holoID, nijisanji, vshojo, small corpos and indies all intermingle regularly while holoEN specifically are contained within their small bubble that they are never allowed to escape despite some members really pushing for it

don't mistake my curiosity for collab begging, i'm just wondering what the fuck is the actual reason for this

>>17590977
When in doubt, blame Omegaa

>>17590977
i think there's an idiotic idea that japanese personalities aren't 'filthy' like westerners, so it's ok to collab with non-holo's from japan but disgusting westerners must be forbidden from going near my precious oshi

>>17590977
Because EN is an actual competition. Nobody in higher ups cares about some indos or Matsuri or Towa collabing with Niji.

>>17590977
HoloEN has two girls that can speak Japanese fluently. One is a hikki NEET, the other runs a talk show with her senpais as the stars.

>>17591106
Western streaming scene is a fucking cesspool with no high points

>>17591106
yknow if you actually read the differents threads this last few days you would know that a chunk of the people complaining don't give a shit about Male collabs and just fucking hate Connor and ironic weebs

>>17587202
>The only flow you animals know of is

JP is much better at keeping the illusion alive, and that's all that matters

Seethe stream incoming?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-M3VD3TzQ

>>17591200

>>17591200
>Breakdown Stream 2: Pick a Fight with Your Haters

>>17590977
It's actually simple, they don't want to lose market share to other competitors. They would rather waiting until Cover recuit more people to have collab than seeking collab partners outside Hololive. It's the same way with HoloJP building their own box pushing ecosystem.

>>17591291
so why are literally everyone else in the ENsphere intermingling, do they just have terrible business sense? vshojo is easily bigger than nijiEN or any indie

>>17590977
The only two who push for it are Mori and Kiara. The Niji collab is probably blocked by the NijiEn management considering not even Ollie can play with Selen despite Holoid playing with NijiId semi frequently

>>17591222
Someone put this cow out to pasture already.

>>17583993
Do you really think Cover or Mori care so much they're going to fuck things up for each other? In about 16 months they've split ~3 million USD in revenue (at my estimate) so really both sides will lose greatly if they ruin everything.

>>17591328
>despite Holoid playing with NijiId semi frequently
i still think it's holoEN specifically that's sticking out like a sore thumb here

>>17591106
Looking at all this shit Mori got dragged into do you have even the slightest fragment of self-consciousness? They were fucking right. Eceleb garbage is poison to Holos.

>>17591222
>Drinking stupid bitch juice gets a ban.
what did she mean by this?

>>17591345
She doesn't care. She thinks she can make it on her own and she'll drown because of that.

>>17591384
I dunno, sounds like she's just going to ban herself right off the bat then.

>>17591384
new age lingo from the kids

>>17591291
didn't HoloJP use to collab outside Hololive more at one point?

>>17591359
i consider fans/anti's going apeshit irrelevant, only the actual streamer/person being interacted with. No one Mori has interacted or wants to interact with has been a 'bad' or drama inducing person themselves.

>>17587243
the true subhuman culture is traditional idol culture :^)

>hololive
>idols

>>17591434
after the chinkout a lot of companies and indies distanced themself to not get dragged into the bugshit. its gotten better now but chuubas with massive chinese paypigs still keep away. Like Mea or whats her name that was a good friend with Aqua

>>17587289
idiots who think that collaborating or associating with someone of the opposite gender is somehow "cucking" is indeed worthy of belittling and bullying.

>>17591348
Sure, but it even Ollie can't play with them if she's played with NijiId AND JP it makes more sense to believe NijiEN imanagement is the issue here.

>>17591460
rumao

>>17591222
based

>>17591200
Oh boy I'm sure this will go well and totally not further the drama

>>17591222
sheesh.

>>17591384
>he doesn't understand what stupid bitch juice is
hohoho ngmi

>>17591565
stop doing drug calli

>>17591526
but nijiEN collab with nijiJP, vshojo and indies and vshojo collab with nijiJP, nijiEN, holoID and indies and nijiJP collab with holoJP, holoID and so on

it's really just holoEN that's always missing here

>>17591200
Hey I've seen this tactic before!
Building that safety net I see

>>17591200
>>17591222
Get ready, boys. Lets see who gets to collects the most (You)s from cuckbeats during this whole fiasco. May the best anti wins

>>17591557
i don't know how that relates to my post, that's just Mori deliberately shitposting/starting shit herself. She's just reacting to a picture, unless the tweet is from some established personality i'm too
>he doesn't know
to know

>>17591582
its some new age zoomer language I dont understand :^)

>>17591599
problem one, language barier
problem two, some ENs barely stream as is so there will be less collabs.
besides that there are holoEN collabs. Ame and RBC , Kiara and Nene , Rat+Zoombie+Winning son

>>17591460
You don't get it, Connor once said that getting into Hololive would give a massive boost to any indie; this means he hates Cover and all their chuubas.

>>17591710
He said that you don't need to have any talent to make it big once you become a holo

>>17587173
>IDOLS should Not have MALE friends
Mentally ill

>>17591778
That's the same thing worded in a retarded manner that will upset people who have a bone to pick with you, though. However, also true.

>>17591710
See >>16961993
https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4
>Something like HOLOLIVE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS
>its almost instant success
>YOU DONT HAVE TO BE A GOOD STREAMER, you will get success, right? cuz you're part of hololive
>you will get a lot more money than most people will see in their lifetime monthly
>We agree on that is that fair to say?
>...
>Mouse: uhhh I think we should change the subject.
>Connor: Point being once you get the job it doesn't matter what you say on the application

>>17591200
I hope everyone's gonna tune in, even the antis, and be nice to her so she thinks she's doing well enough without hororaib and decides to finally graduate

>>17591864
>hololive is a good example of this, once you get in it's instant success, you don't have to be a good streamer, you will get success, right?
>getting into Hololive would give a massive boost to any indie
Literally same thing. Consider applying the principle of charity here and stop freaking out over nothing.

Her roommate's content has seen a large uptick this week.

>>17583697
Towa has done nothing wrong though. She actively embraces idol culture.

Imagine throwing a schizoid meltdown tantrum because your oshi has friends outside of the yuri shipyard

>>17591778
Let's assume that what you said 100% represents his thoughts and what he truly intended to say at that time. Should saying that ban him for the rest of his life from being allowed to interact with any Holo's? Even if this opinion changes later?

Even at it's absolute worst interpretation what he said was along the lines of 'you can be a shit streamer but if you make it into hololive you're set' which is one of the most milquetoast nothingburger opinion of who the fuck cares about this

I wonder if she has spoken to Coco about all this and asked for her thoughts.

>>17591962
I haven't clicked in any of dd's videos in over a year and am not subbed to her but youtube keeps recommending it and putting it on autoplay after random holosongs.

>>17592000
Imagine caring about the opinions of five or so trolls when you're at 1,000,000+ subscribers

>>17592030

>>17592013
anitubers deserve the rope.

>>17592029
I've listened to em, and dd's getting her emotions out.

>>17592067
never reply to me again with such a low quality post

>>17592013
If he proves that he stopped being an ironic weeb then it's fine. But he's never going to do that.

>>17591524
not what most people are bothered by here.

>>17592119
how would he do that to your satisfaction, theoretically

>>17592090
or whatcha gona do tough guy?

Still better than your oshi

>>17591599
You're still not getting my point.
Ollie has collabed with RPR.
She's invited a slew of people for her birthday streams that she's played with.
She's collabed with FUCKING GUNDOU OF ALL FUCKING NIJIJPS
And yet got blocked to collab with Selen. Do you not see how strange that is?

And the ONLY person in EN who's shown interest in actually collabing is Kiara, who ONLY wants to collab with an EN. Not an ID, not a JP. So saying "well EN is on its own island" is because it's on its own island because it wants to be there. Ame is too autistic to collab outside of Holo, especially when she can barely collab INSIDE of holo. Ina is too autistic. Gura is too autistic. None of the EN2s have shown any interest in anyone outside of Fauna interacting with Rosemi once on twitter like four months ago.

>>17591147
Bae, Irys and I think Sana are fluent in Japanese too.

>>17591222
lmfao she's having a breakdown

>>17592155
Spend a few years actually immersing himself in the culture instead of doing the whole "japanese culture is so problematic"

>>17592179
More like seconds

>>17592179
Not true objectively

>>17591222
>4 rules against clowning out
Yeah, she's high on her own kool-aid.

>>17592202
I don't watch Council.

>>17592257
>japanese culture is so problematic
when has he said or strongly implied this

>>17591200

>>17591222
Can't believe this is written by someone I've supported for a year now. I feel so distraught.

>>17583697
Idol stuff didn't start until Gen 3, newfag. That's why Matsuri and Gen 1 can't be held accountable for shit. They changed the business model after they had already kept the company alive for a year and then expected them to follow along with it.

>>17592351
>expected them to follow along with it
>friend exists
lol

>>17592306
A live2D of her 'original' avatar would actually be pretty cool

No eyes, just the mouth (and blush and the blue disgusted 'blush') to indicate emotion

just graduate this whore along with her e-celeb fans already she clearly doesn't belong in hololive

>>17592081
I felt kind of miserable listening to it. Seems like big part of the lyrics are about being unhappy and enduring it.

>>17592461
It would be sad if it wasn't the kind of sadboy shit she was taking the piss out of in sick outta fashion.

>>17592440
Genuine question, why does it matter if she's in Hololive or not now? Nothing she's done has actually impacted any other holo to a noticeable degree.

Frankly I think that graduating, becoming independent and being free from the restrictions that come with Hololive might actually be good for her mental/emotional state, but no one is being harmed by her staying.

>>17592411
I agree, and with all the money she has it shouldn't take much for her to make it happen.

I can only hope she thinks she no longer needs Hololive and decides to graduate.

>>17592179
>>17592259
your alone in your seething cuck

>>17590385
She will stay in Hololive for as long as possible and will make the fandom around her worse, all out of spite

>>17592562
I'd rather not have to watch and listen to her ever again, but she collabs with my oshi.

>>17592562
same reason people dont watch kson anymore, isnt just about the person behind the avatar, hololive is like a anime series, the group interactions are the charm, couldnt care less about her out of there because at that point shes just a regular streamer.

>>17592497
>I'm proud to say I ain't no, sugar-bloated, candy-coated bitch you can adore on
>Don't you know that 'Idol Rapper' is such an oxymoron
Aged very well.

>>17592693
That and Kson collabed with TT and had a Chaturbate stream with VShojo and basically the one thing Hololive management could ever be good at it forcing some level of moderation. But J-chad is truly the worst manager and can't even handle that.

>>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HAVE A LEFT OUTSIDE OF HOLOLIVE YOU NEED TO GIVE EVERYTHIGN UP FOR HOLOLIVE AND STREAM ONLY ON HOLOLIVE AND GIVE ALL YOUR TIME TO THE GREAT HOLOLIVE!!!!!!!!

>>17583627
Hololive is a media entertainment company, not an idol company.

>>17592742
5%

>be in hololive
>stuck in the stupid idol environment
>can only interact with approved people
>can get cancelled for literally anything
>have to get permission for literally everything
>be indie after getting the hololive clout
>have lots of famous friends you can piggyback on
>will bring in lots of fans from your hololive persona
>be your own boss
>fans won't cancel you for having a boyfriend
Tell me again why shouldn't graduate and debut as her roommate?

>>17592742
Seethe deadcuck. She hates you, she's happy to see your crying betrayed face, she made a song making fun of you, and she will happily take your money after.

>>17592742
Who are you quoting?

>>17592786
>She hates you
She never said it anywhere even in her song

>>17592562
>Nothing she's done has actually impacted any other holo to a noticeable degree
Yet. However she's already shown that she can't handle the responsibility of being a member of Hololive.

>>17592461
Yeah I got the same vibe. I hope the mindset doesn't transfer to Cali. I'd hate for her to see Hololive as only a money gig, and just tolerate her Deadbeats. Still, that wouldn't surprise me give the tone of dd's songs.

>>17592781
She should.

>>17592304
nayrt but he and Joey does that a lot actually.
Pretty much any time they touch upon a subject without hiding behind a mask or irony or start to go on about society and politics really.
Always wigs me out because neither of them know enough japanese to interact in any depth with actual japanese society.

>>17592838
Or any other organisation that demands standards of behavior from its members.

>>17591222
She's still malding lmao

>>17592781
Spite. The antis want her to quit and so she won't. The same way deadbeats wanted her to not brute force a laggy Cuphead collab with Gura, but she did anyway. The same way they wanted her to stop streaming Shadowverse after the sponsorship but she did anyway. The same way deadbeats want her to prepare for streams at all, and she almost never does.

She's really spiteful I think

>>17592781
She should. And all you have to do is convince her that this path can lead her to a collab with Cr1tikal.

>>17583697
>I like the composition, and the purple on the chest is an interesting artistic touch! I'm also a big fan of the Dead Beat's expression as well, there's a good deal of complex emotions you've portrayed very well here and I'm all for it. You've got a good thing going, good work!

>>17583627
>exponentially
good adverb, but I think "exceptionally" would have worked even better.

>>17592781
this, new dragon has already reached over 1M and while she isn't receiving as many supas as old dragon, she does not have to share any earnings with COVER.

>>17592923
Antis just want her to stop bringing up her irl friends while streaming as Calliope Mori, Hololive chuuba.

>>17592349
Sorry man. Get a new oshi or take a break.

>>17590367
>narratives made up in your head that she HATES the other EN girls
>menhera attack thanks to faggots like you blowing shit out of proportion
>start of activities elsewhere when this is literally nothing new with other vtubers in any corpo
holy fucking cope. cuckbeats really are retarded schizos

>>17592984
I don't think those can be considered antis. Just critics. Maybe it also depends how they say it. But in general a lot of constructive criticism I've seen boils down to "just involve your friends in your roommate account instead of Hololive" while antis want her to graduate. What's funny is both would be beneficial to Mori kek

>>17592878
You have absolutely no idea about Joey if you think that. Man's more fluent and knowledgeable about japan than a lot of japanese people and he and half his family are ethnically japanese.

>>17593072
>both would be beneficial to Mori kek
Beneficial in what sense?
Because she'd see a significant chunk of dropoff from donations and viewers. Coco way way more popular and left with pretty much everyone supporting her and she lost a lot.

>>17593072
>both would be beneficial to Mori kek
Yet she won't do it to dunk on the haters. It's getting funnier and funnier.

>>17593086
could you go back to whatever shithole you came from?

>>17587507
This. Collabing with a pro gamer or being interviewed by a beloved comedian is not the same thing as using your fame to get into the inner circle of some fucking ani-tubers.

>>17592858
During the Jump King stream with Mumei they discussed how they felt the job was a blessing, compared to before when she had to work 3 jobs to make as much as she makes of 1 stream now.
There's obviously alot of pressure that comes with that, especially if she feels like can't be herself (when in reality she can if she doesn't see it as black and white), and her roommate's music can be a way to deal with that, and not exactly to shit on Hololive.
These are also songs that have been in the works for months, and we see it all in a compressed time frame, so it doesn't mean she feels like that all the time. She does seem to have some fun.
Her roommates stream later today is the clincher, because she'll obviously want to talk about her EP. So it can be either "Yeah, I took this from a job I hate, fuck my fans" or "Yeah, I like it but the pressure gets to me, and I did this to blow off stream."

>>17593118
>lost a lot
In what sense? Money? Is the only reason to do something in life is money?

>>17593150
tl;dr:
KWAB

>>17592349
I'm sorry anon, but its you deadcucks fault
You showed to her that she can be as unprofessional and spiteful as she wants and still get money and positive reinforcement from you
I hope you find a better oshi

>>17593148
>Collabing with a pro gamer or being interviewed by a beloved comedian is not the same thing as using your fame to get into the inner circle of some fucking ani-tubers
The difference is?

>>17584227
It depends on how fast she can win her current gachikois over her roommate channel, just like kson.

>>17591222
god she's so fucking cringe
like a 13 year old boy trying to be cool
fucking hell this is a grown woman

>>17593174
Well she lost her live as Kiryuu Coco

Can't wait to read news articles about basement dwellers committing suicide because their idol is not an idol

>>17593086
>You have absolutely no idea about Joey if you think that. Man's more fluent and knowledgeable about japan than a lot of japanese people and he and half his family are ethnically japanese.
Haha oh wow no. God no.
First of all the guy's have terrible japanese to the point that they have trouble interacting outside of gaijin expat circles.
Secondly Joey spends all his time among americans even online and when he finds jp articles to sperg about how holos are ruining society because they don't conform to american (lack of) beauty standards he misses very obvious things like it being a focus on influencers.

In fact out of the three of them he is the one with least understanding of Japan. Connor is ignorant but Joey is just as ignorant but thinks being a mutt means he gets it while dishing out hot-takes that the Japanese left look on with thinly-veiled disgust.

>>17593118
If she just separated her personal friends and obsession with e-celebs from Hololive
>can get it out of her damn system
>can enjoy both her friends and Hololive connections, friends, and money
>might still have to be on guard because she can still be connected to Hololive
If she graduated peacefully
>no more pressure from idolfags whatsoever
>everyone knows deadbeats are doxfags so they'll all follow her anyway
>doesn't even have to watch out as her roommate anymore, can do whatever
>board quality improves kek

>>17593236
Oh it's a troll. I should have known.

>>17592349
Guess what else she wrote on twitter. kek

>>17593220
Well for one the comedian probably didn't shit on Hololive talents and recruiters

>>17593137
the most basic and absolutely expected response, you love to see it
>thing bad because ____
>that's wrong
>wow you know about thing? lmao fuck off loser

>>17593220
The anitubers are literal leeches who are openly hostile to Japan and the japanese and they're clearly only hanging around her in hopes of parasitizing her fanbase.
>Gigguk's wife suddenly becomes a vtweeter
>Connor invades mouse's collabs with kson unwanted annoying the shit out of her
>Joey trying to cash-in on vtuber hate on twitch

>>17593279
Her latest music in over 18 months is all about her feelings about Mori.
If she graduates, what will she have to complain about?
Ironically, she needs to be what she hates to get the attention she wants and inspiration.

>>17593150
This makes sense, and thanks for the considerate reply

>>17593289
Oh you're one of those TT faggots who doesn't get how 4chan works and think going "le troll" is a response.

>>17593132
It's getting funnier in a car crash kind of way. She's gonna burn out at this rate and she'll be too stubborn to stop for her own health. And one day she'll realize, like her old rapper friends, her anituber friends don't have her best interest at heart but this time she'll never admit it because she'd have to admit, as Mori, that Mori was wrong about them. She's too fucking stubborn. Almost every bad collab or collab with a bad element can be attributed to this

>>17593328
>the comedian probably didn't shit on Hololive talents and recruiters
Yeah in public. The comedian is also japanese, don't stream their life and would rather lie than do something "dishonorable".

>>17593385
She will find something to complain about. That's what she has been doing her entire fucking life.

>>17593452
Yes my guy, Mori should better listen to what 4chan schizos have to say.

>>17593072
Mori has pretty consistently considered anyone who doesn't completely support her "artistic freedoms" to collab with people who have nothing to do with Hololive an "anti."
This whole faggotry was started by a troll who posted criticism in the wrong place, but she doesn't exactly listen to Deadbeats who have expressed their opinions properly. Instead she's too focused on "owning the trolls." I'm not expecting her to kowtow to my opinion, but a bit of maturity and the ability to answer criticism and concerns without devolving into twitter shitflinging and disstracks would be nice.

>>17593381
connor is unironically likely one of rats closest friends since the tokyo tour stream, if not before.

>>17593482
I prefer not to assume the worst out of people until they do it themselves. A comedian who has never publically shat on Hololive could also very well be neutral or nice about them. With Connor you know exactly what he thinks because he already told you.

>>17593211
This

People cried when Coco left. This bitch will get nothing

>>17583966
Isn't she just a streamer with a vtuber avatar and a slightly higher production/marketing value due to company backing?

>>17590367
>when this is literally nothing new with other vtubers in any corpo
Kekbeat, none of the girls dissed her fandom in their alt account once they got into Hololive, neither most nijis. So is not the same thing because those corpos actually know HOW TO SEPARATE THEIR CORPO VTUBER PERSONA FROM THEIR ALT ACCOUNT.

>>17593482
>Starts making shit up now
Now tell us how everyone in Japan actually secretly hates Vtubers and that Cover should move to the US to avoid the hate.

>>17593381
>openly hostile to Japan and the japanese
Japan and japanese people are overrated. You should snap back to reality anon. YWNBJ

>they're clearly only hanging around her in hopes of parasitizing her fanbase.
They're literally bigger than her and is under kadokawa. They can do without hololive really.

>Gigguk's wife suddenly becomes a vtweeter
>Connor invades mouse's collabs with kson unwanted annoying the shit out of her
>Joey trying to cash-in on vtuber hate on twitch
Don't care. Fuck vshojo. I hate most vtubers too.

>>17593517
Even deadbeats in THAT Twitter thread and even fucking redditors on the Hololive sub were against her behavior when she bit that bait. Month old deadbeats were posting comments about her incessant stubbornness in the stream she defended Connor. She became the first Holo to be downvoted on the official subreddit because she tried to defend her actions.

It's not just here.

>>17593527
>but she doesn't exactly listen to Deadbeats who have expressed their opinions properly.
You now remember this
https://streamable.com/ydsmof

Is this the final yab?

>>17593636
Oh come on, can't a girl just have some fun??

>>17593527
Different anon, but she's openly said she's her own worst enemy, and professionalism is hard for her. That at least explains her lack of maturity and perceived need to "own the trolls". I'm not excusing it, and I think she knows she needs to grow and be better, but clearly that growth is extremely difficult for her.

>>17593636
>first holo to be downvoted
I don't believe you. You're saying a post or comment by her official account went into the negatives?

>>17593709
My boy is not "a girl".

>>17593718
Yes. "Can I please just have some fun? Please." As far as I remember that's what she said and she went into negatives. She deleted it. I might be rememberjng wrong sorry, especially since I can't find a pic on my phone - but I know that's what she said and she deleted it

>>17593612
This is what gets me. That we're even having this stupid drama in the first place

>>17593793
wasn't that a tweet

>>17593626
>secretly hates Vtubers
Why should I tell a lie? Most japs love vtubers. It's just that you know, when a new anything comes out to the market, the people that used to dominate it will hate the newcomers somewhat. Especially if they manage to rise fast. Like for example, a youtuber that's been grinding for 5 years to reach 100k subs would probably be angry seeing some anime nigger make that in a month. Don't move to the US. That place is full of black people and sjw.

>>17593816
Faaairly certain it was reddit. I was hawkishly watching her tiwtter for updates but didn't think to check Reddit, and I that's why I missed the "let me have fun" comment she made

>>17593698
Trolls = owned

>>17593527
My thoughts exactly, glad to see someone explain it better than I would have.

>>17593709
She has never had the right to have fun on that account. That account isn't her's, it's Hololive's that she helps operate.

>>17593718
Bottom Left in this picture. She deleted the comment afterwards

>>17593381
Gigguk isn't as bad as the other two as you can tell he actually has some respect for Japanese culture and is a fanboy. Like, note how he's never actually said anything negative about Hololive or vtubing in general because he actually understands idol culture.

The other two are just jaded assholes where Joey hates his own career path as he's "grown out of his anime phase" and Connor is an ironic contrarian who only cares about anime or games if people meme them first.

>>17593828
Again you're just making shit up and assuming the worst out of potentially dozens of entertainers who have worked or will work with Hololive, entirely because you're trying to equate not openly shitting on Hololive to openly shitting on Hololive

>>17593634
>>Japan and japanese people are overrated.
Guess that's why you're so deadset on defending people who make a living lying about Japan.
>They're literally bigger than her and is under kadokawa.
So is everyone working in a bookstore in Japan.
Their modus operandi of finding people to leech off is so incredibly transparent.
>I hate most vtubers too.
You would, being a TTroon.

>>17593816
The cuck tweet was reposted on r*ddit. She then commented "Can I please just have some fun? Please." there and it got downvoted.

>>17593878
>The last video's title

KEK

>>17593878
Gigguk is the only one I can stomach, and even then not all the time

>>17593868
Fuck, thank you. I had been looking for this. When I was talking about her making that comment I was a little afraid I misremembered and I was completely pulling things out of my ass kek

>>17593878
Gigguk is the only one who has any business talking about anything Japanese at all yes.
Shame he doesn't know japanese and only reads translated stuff and is stuck with those two rabid tards as his co-workers.

>>17590650
If being that retarded is a talent then yes, she is super talented

>>17593878
>Gigguk isn't as bad
Fuck off. He used to be okay but since leaving /a/, his taste has become shit. Imagine getting angry because Mushoku "I want to rape my niece and groom a little girl to be my wife" tensei isn't getting nominated as AOTY. Fucking shit taste.

>>17593961
kek

>>17591222
>no superchats
we're getting to her...

>>17593969
>moralfaggotry
Reddit's that way kiddo.

>>17593969
Anon, /a/ loves the self insert cunnyseur isekai anime because of the cunny.

>>17593868
i thought her original reply to the picture was funny but she dug herself into the ground for apologizing for it and trying to explain it. Really it seems like most of these yabs would go away/not exist if she just ignored anyone who got upset by her attitude or shitposting.

>>17594075
Not really, but new fags wouldn't understand Mushoku Tensei's impact on the Isekai genre.

>>17593939
gigguk is an annoying literal seanigger

>>17594081
>most of these yabs would go away/not exist if she just ignored anyone
One hundred percent. As someone else pointed out she has this massive "I have to prove everyone wrong and own all the trolls" mentality

>>17594014
I rate an anime on the story foremost. I don't care if the animation is godtier (it isn't) or the OST is a banger (it's not). If the story is shit, which it is btw, it shouldn't be getting AOTY. Also, gigguk like BNHA and rent a girlfriend. You share his shit taste if you like him.

>>17593878
>Garnt just bought a gun
>13 minutes
Nice content, Trash Keks

>>17594075
>/a/ loves the self insert cunnyseur isekai
Wrong. /a/ hates it. Only newfags like that shit based on the threads. The isekai thread don't even talk about MT.

>”you gotta reassess the shit that makes you sad”
>moan that almost sounds like a guh
She’s not exactly being subtle anymore lol

>>17594200
Wrong. /a/ doesn't hate it. But the isekai thread doesn't talk about it because MT ended like 7 years ago

stop being mean guys

anyone got the image of the lyrics?

The following post is a copypasta taken from the archives. The poster does not necessarily believe all of it is accurate
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>Makes Gura extremely uncomfortable during their first collab together
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Drags the entire generation into a series of extremely boring Overcooked 2 where she just mumbles to herself the whole time forcing collab partners to pick up the slack, despite being the one to start it
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Promises Kiara that they'd do weekly Minecraft streams where they could learn the game together, collabed MC exactly once one one month later and never again
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spends half an hour thanking superchats during her first Minecraft collab with Gura
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doxxes herself and then obnoxiously fake screams into the mic the entirety of the Secret Neighbor collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can't even be bothered to set up the game correctly for the first big Among Us collabs, is a massive anchor for the team and a wet blanket during meetings
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Was in a separate Discord channel thanking superchats during her second Among Us collab while her JP senpais all introduced themselves
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Played Lethal League with deadbeats while Ina literally stood there and watched, in what was supposed to be a Mori Ina collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Starts sulking when the punishment game comes up in Puyo Puyo Tetris, refuses to take part and brings the mood down
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Extremely and inexplicably rude to Kiara during the Takamori Q&A, nearly brought her to tears
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Doesn't know the first thing about Reine during their collab together, keeps calling her 'senpai' and actually thinks she's a Turkey character
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>According to Kiara, has overslept multiple collabs, forcing them to be delayed or rescheduled
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spoils the outfits for the Walfee outfit reveal collab, doesn't even try during the Jeopardy rounds and just types gibberish
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely uninterested during her Clubhouse 51 stream with Kiara, Kiara even has to pull out the fucking weather deck to try and get any sort of response from Mori
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Spent 2 hours saying absolutely nothing but random autism grunts, as Kiara desperately tries to carry a conversation during their Shadowverse collab
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Can barely speak two words of Japanese during her Super Bunnyman stream with Rikka, forcing him to use English instead
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Completely shits the bed in the highly anticipated Coco Meme Review collab, exercising her usual "awkward sperg spamming stock phrases like naruhodo instead of holding an actual conversation" shtick to its fullest as Coco becomes more and more desperate to get ANY kind of reaction out of her and eventually asks 75k live viewers "is she always like this?"
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>made Gura wake up early on a day she had a stream later in the day
>replaced their game because it only has local play with a game that only has local play
>didn't install the game anywhere between the game being changed and the actual collab
>made a sleepy Gura wait 20 minutes only to have her experience about 0.5 to 2 second lag
>finally settle on Phasmophobia after all this struggling
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Collabed with anituber trash that is responsible for most of the casual fan flood from which casual doxfags and cucks who want male collabs can be traced to
>Way, way more prepared and enthusiastic for this than ANY of the collabs listed above
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Shows up to a literal who vtuber's birthday but never did a call in for her senpais
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!
>Once again ruins the entire mood by throwing a tantrum over punishment games in UNO, refusing to do them or doing them half-assed, and arbitrarily changing the results to her liking
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

>>17594200
MT is the Isekai, /a/ just loves to hate anything popular that's not their secret niche LN/manga/anime that appeals to their fetish.

>>17594325
I think a certain image of a superhero is often associated with these types of posts...

>>17594325
Before reading this I had completely forgotten about the lethal league "collab" and now I'm cringing into a black hole. I remember the first time this was posted months ago I had the same reaction. It was so bad my brain is repeatedly trying to scrub it

>>17594271
Do women really?

>>17592781
>Tell me again why shouldn't graduate and debut as her roommate?
That's what everyone from both sides are saying.

>>17594271
>my whole personality is that I'm horny

>>17594471
That's exactly why she won't graduate. The "haters" would get what they want, and she has /v/ tier mentality that she must die on every hill she takes

>>17594325
Someone should probably update it periodically.

>Organises EN/ID Pokemon tournament, no one from Myth joins, and the tournament is pathetically organised as she constantly forgets who's to be matched with who.
It's just one collab, Mori is actually really entertaining!

>>17594325
You didn't mention the Kiara King incident, or Amelia's bday

>>17594872
>>17594873
I was the one who slowly added things to it periodically... My days of actively criticizing Mori are over. Someone else would have to do it and post it when relevant

>>17594872
What happened

>>17589687
>lack of loyalty for the company you work for are
When did people became such a corpo bootlickers?

>>17594935
https://streamable.com/t2985s
For context, Kiara's "cover" of King is a Rick roll

>>17592351
>Idol stuff didn't start until Gen 3
Explain the unironic prostitute that is Noel then.

>>17594985
She's not a wageslave working 8 hours a day for meager pay. She's a streamer who has to talk about anything she likes and maybe even play video games for a huge pay off so long as she keeps fans. You'd think you'd be happy for such an opportunity and would want to stick around and not offend your benefactors

>>17594985
when the company is built from the hardwork of cute and talented girls sincerely trying to find success for themselves and the corpo

>>17595020
No wonder TakaMori shit isn't working out

>>17595180
Wow, can't believe someone actually wrote that, especially the second part.

>>17595190
At least Kiara tried really hard. Even when Mori would attempt to lean on it, it would usually be fake as shit. Mori hates pretending I think. She hates doing punishment games where she has to pretend to be something she's not. Maybe I'm just rratting but it might be part of the reason she's so adamant about involving all her personal friends and interests in Hololive - because she'd hate to pretend they weren't her friends and interests.

I must be loyle to my corpo

>>17591222
>we will make fun of you
Sure ...but who will be more affected by it?

>>17595272
>>17595326
See >>17595082
She's not flipping burgers for minimum wage. Hololive gave her an opportunity most people would kill for. There comes a point where you should be loyal to people who gave you your success, even if their shitty management doesn't gel well with you. Or she could just graduate on good terms and be herself without all the pressure, but she's too stubborn for that.

>>17595317
>Mori hates pretending I think.
Well then maybe that cunt needs to stop lying all the time.

>>17595272
it's been rather unbelievable couple of weeks

>>17595449
Kek, true. Maybe saving face / not admitting you don't know shit about what you're talking about is still more important to her.
... God it's so obvious she was a fucking /v/tard even if she never admitted it as Mori

>>17595407
>she could just graduate on good terms
with who, /vt/? kek

>>17591222
is this a joke or what? This reads like some LoL or csgo channel made by 13y old. Fucking hachaama was more serious when she was doing coexist shit.

>>17595733
With Cover obviously, retard.

>>17595733
With cover and her fellow Holos, dumbass. Like Coco did.

>>17595407
Why does it matter? Anyone can go and stream games for however long they want. The golden recipe of being in hololive equaling to success only exists because people are becoming company drones the same way gamers have long since became.

>>17591222
Mods ban anyone who knows what I did like awnestly dawg. Ban purpledrank69, also ban condoms4connor, connorfawks, drinkiesRus, Kuk2death and TTPounder34. That's it, I'm turning subs only mode on, actions have consequences piemp. I can't take this shizzle jizzle no mo dawg, can I just have some fun.

You guys are forgetting this poor girl has only made $1,000,000 over the last year and a half almost entirely from the generosity of her fans. Can she please just have some fun? Please.

>>17596131
She got successful before it became all corporate drones. Shit I'm confident enough in saying that she, and the rest of Myth, became genuinely popular and well liked and successful, all through genuine fan enjoyment, and this is what led to it tumoring into a massive fanbase that cultivated corporate drones. Not the other way around. Why do you think later gens don't have nearly as much initial growth? Because Myth grew naturally and the later gens are infected with drones.

>>17596461
>>17596131
What I'm saying is, since her growth was genuine, then she should be genuinely thankful for Hololive and her fellow Holos. It's not like they did her dirty - some Holos actually got it worse than her from management or lack thereof - and so she has no reason to be ungrateful if not for her own stubbornness

>>17594271
>Queen of degeneracy

More like queen of doublethink

>>17596461
Mori had over 100k viewers on debut. Barely any vtuber outside of Hololive will ever have this kind of numbers on any of their streams ever. That had nothing to do with her, her talent or lack thereof, EN didn't have an opportunity to do shit up until that point. It was all Hololive branding.

ANTI BROS ???

>>17596857
Hololive was not nearly as popular before Myth debuted though. I'm fairly certain that most of those views were curious people who'd never heard of vtubing. Hololive is a household vtubing name in the west because of their success, not the other way around.

>>17596946
>>17596857
Wait, I remember now that Gigguk did an episode about vtubers just before Myth debuted. That likely played a hand in it more than any Hololive branding

>>17596869
Made me check, dipshit

>>17596869
>ITS FUCKING REAL

https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1485120701141233666
https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1485120701141233666
https://twitter.com/hololive_en/status/1485120701141233666

>>17589941
>shat on Hololive and tries to normalize
>Still pretending this happened to justify your unicorn fantasies.
Come on anon, you can do better.

>>17596946
You are full of shit. 2020 was the year of Hololive. Suisei went from her goal of 50k subs by December 2019 to 500k by the time Myth debuted. Multiple posts on holoreddit were making it to reddit front page monthly, the subreddit itself had over 100k members less than half a year after Coco took it over, a couple of months before EN was announced. Translated holoclips were getting millions of views. Myth never returned to CCV numbers they had during the first few months. Korone had more EOPs watching her in August 2020 than Kiara does currently.

>>17591524
the fact that she or anyone on twitter thinks this is the issue shows such a grand disconnect from fans actual worries to the perceived and re-iterated narrative being spread and addressed means that no one will ever be happy

>>17597561
Hmm, I guess you're right then. Does that mean the corporate droning is not nearly as powerful as before? Did normies tire of the new shiny already, kek

>>17596946
suuuure anon its all Myth
>>17596857
well duh the point of joining a company instead of going indi is to have a initial boost of people who will give you a chance at the start. from there its up to the talents to keep those eyes on them or fail

>>17597672
Yeah, you and him are right. It makes me wonder why the boost fell off, honestly

>>17592119
He doesn't even claim to be an ironic Weeb, don't be a tard. He's very explicitly the "not really a weeb" guy of the TT group. He's only an anituber because Voice acting content works good with anime, that's all.

>>17597528
>unicorn
There was no backlash against Mori's collab with Rikka, because he's a cool guy. More people were angry with the song's mixing than the actual collab.
No one was mad about her collab with Ks, because he's a cool guy. People actually wanted more of that.

But Connor is not a cool guy. Trash Taste are not cool guys. It's not that their guys, it's that they're not cool. The exact same logic can be used to explaim why a sizeable amount of KFP want and support a Pomu Kiara collab but actively spoke against a potential Veibei Kiara collab. It doesn't matter what sex they are. If you shittalk Hololive or have a fanbase that will shit it up, you will be unwanted.

>>17597725
well one thing is youtube messing with its coding around end of 2020 and once again at the end of 2021 where they implemented some things to "cull bot views" which then ended up culling people who have youtube premium and memberships of the girls from being counted as a viewers (at least on the count that can be seen by users and websites like holopoi)

>>17592838
>Responsability.
They're pretending to be anime girls on youtube, anon.

>>17597928
Then why did she let trolls get to her so badly

>>17597850
>If you shittalk Hololive or have a fanbase that will shit it up, you will be unwanted.
Still pretending this happened because of your unicorn fantasies, anon.
You need to let go anon, they're not really anime girls.

>>17597928
now imagine fucking that up! embarrassing !

>>17597865
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Every time there's a poll in any vtubers chat I always notice there's where more voters than viewers. Thanks Susan great website

>>17597987
Because she's a dumb millenial with no idea how internet culture works.

>>17598047
If she takes her image / street cred as Mori that seriously then she should take her job as Mori seriously

>>17597991
See
>>17591864
And tell me this isn't at the very least very poorly woorded. And if you think otherwise, then why did Mori say he apologized personally? If it wasn't something worth apologizing for?

>>17591778
Which is what started this whole shitshow in the first place.

>>17598042
people posted those polls to youtubes twitter and got the "oh yeah thats not how it should work, we will try to figure out the problem!"
and thats been their go to answer so far

>>17598089
>Pretending she doesn't
>Pretending this entire shit wasn't started by a Unicorn retard who got triggered his oshi interacted with a 3d male.
Need I remind this all started because some retard decided Cali shouldn't interact with Connor because he was an autist with no ears and doesn't understand the meaning of the word "example."

>>17595079
Light gravure isn't prostitution and 3D idols do gravure.
You know what isn't tolerated among 3D idols? Being a fujoshi.

>>17598180
It wasn't because he was a male. In your own post you refute that idea. It has nothing to do with unicorns. Again, no one had any issue with her other male collabs and almost no one takes issue with JP idol Holos doing 3d male collabs. You're blaming this on something that isn't even part of the issue

>>17591222
Why is she hoarding all the dumb bitch juice for herself? Leave something for the rest of us, cunt.

>>17598110
>And tell me this isn't at the very least very poorly woorded. And if you think otherwise, then why did Mori say he apologized personally? If it wasn't something worth apologizing for?
It isn't really that poorly worded, because it wasn't an official statement. Connor should not be expected to watch his every word like he's the fucking president, and not someone having a conversation with a friend that just so happens to be on livestream. Especially when the main body of his point was "You can just cheat on applications and even with no talent you're set as long as you get into a big corp."

His point was never "HOLOLIVE SUCKS LOLOLOLOL".

As for why she thought it was necessary to say he apologized? Because people say dumb shit when put on the spot, and because the Vtuber fanbase are retarded and she knew they would that in the worse possible way.

You'd think that if Connor hated Vtubers he wouldn't interact with one nigh-daily. Or maybe in hater fantasy land he just has a personal vendetta against hololive especially.

>>17598180
you absolute nigger. you keep trying to put the mildest interpretation possible on conors dumb ass retarded take and then try to spin this shit.
>>17592065

>>17585496
Kinda cringey honestly, but then again I guess all rap lyrics are when you actually read them

>>17597725
2020 was the time of exponential growth for vtubers and it was also when Hololive became synonymous with vtubers at least in the West. People who came to watch Myth back then are sticking with what they know. There is a lot less inflow these days.

>>17597672
>well duh the point of joining a company instead of going indi is to have a initial boost of people who will give you a chance at the start.
Sure. But you don't get to act as an indie if you want the boost. You get a boost as a corpo for a reason and that reason is branding. Branding includes expectations by the audience and these expectations are not always officially articulated. Tough shit.
This should be obvious by this point but we still have /hlg/-tier muh corpo bootlickers posters around who think that management should be bashed because management bad in principle and not because they are incompetent hacks. If you like indies doing whatever they want then go and watch indies.

>>17598284
Yes, anon, connor hates Hololive. Why? Because I say so, that's why.

He specifically hates hololive, though, since apparently he's cool with other Vtubers.

>>17598242
The issue was that a retarded unicorn got triggered that Cali collabed with a 3d male and then dug around for some hot take to justify his triggering. Pretty simple, yo.

>>17598282
>You can just cheat on applications and even with no talent you're set as long as you get into a big corp."
And he used Cover as an example where this could happen. This calls into question if it has already happened and it will continue to happen. If your interpretation is correct then he just implied that at least some of the current Holos and future ones aren't as talented as they are successful. And that's shitting on Hololive, the talents, and the recruiters (the one good thing about the company other than talents is the recruiters kek)

I'm not saying he said Hololive sucks, I'm saying he made a comment that makes it seem he has little trust in the talents' skill. And that's insulting! If you worked hard to get in a good position at your work and someone implied anyone could have your position, you'd feel insulted. And in this case the fans were insulted because the girls are their oshis.

>You'd think that if Connor hated Vtubers he wouldn't interact with one nigh-daily.
Again, not saying he hates them or Hololive. But then again he comes off as a huge grifter latching unto the new popular thing considering how he inserted himself into Ollie and HoloID for a time

>>17598548
>considering how he inserted himself into Ollie and HoloID for a time
tried it with Ame as well but got ignored and moved on

>>17598395
Then a unicorn brought up something that exposed how unprofessional Mori is. Punishung chat by not reading any supas because of one troll aka. Biting week-old bait and trying to justify it as funposting, then having to admit she was drunk. Him being a unicorn has little to do with this anymore. The majority of people still talking about this aren't unicorns

>>17598335
See
>>17598548
>>17598634
Which I had forgotten about. Good addition

>>17598548
>how he inserted himself into Ollie
Just now realizing how I worded that, kek

>>17598548
>And he used Cover as an example where this could happen. This calls into question if it has already happened and it will continue to happen. If your interpretation is correct then he just implied that at least some of the current Holos and future ones aren't as talented as they are successful. And that's shitting on Hololive, the talents, and the recruiters (the one good thing about the company other than talents is the recruiters kek)
No, this doesn't imply that at all unless you're unironically autistic. Why wouldn't he use the single largest Vtuber company as an example of one where "as long as you get in, you're set." ?

>And in this case the fans were insulted because the girls are their oshis.
And it's fine to be insulted. What isn't fine is then sending you oshi a 100$ donation telling her not to associate with someone because you personally felt insulted on her behalf.

>But then again he comes off as a huge grifter latching unto the new popular thing considering how he inserted himself into Ollie and HoloID for a time

That's literally every youtuber ever, including VTubers. Latching unto the new popular thing is the only way to ever get a fanbase.