/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

everyone involved

>>1703215
fbpb

>>1703215
Basically this. If you haven't heard her in her general streams and realized she's a broken person you're a retard. HOWEVER if you're a fucking retarded artist working without a contract for coomer bait you're a fucking retard.

>>1701274
digitrevx is a particularly shitty person regardless of the spin. I don't think there's any real reason to trust him considering his past behaviors. This whole incident will ultimately cause harm to the art community because of him.

Both were retarded here but I think Melody (Or at least her management) is the worse party simply for being a two faced and omitting incriminating things in her statement, as well as getting off relatively scott free and Digi's image being completely ruined despite being the reason behind her success. I never fully trust accusers by default because there is usually not a good reason to make a public stink about it.
>>1708730
>This whole incident will ultimately cause harm to the art community because of him.
All this has taught me as a model maker is how to protect my work rights in a legal case, so more like a cautionary tale. That being said, the 'art community' deserves a painful death. Fuck community artists, they are all insufferable faggots.
>his past behaviors
In relation to this drama or to some other controversy?

>>1709305
>In relation to this drama or to some other controversy?
same drama, other people.
this isn't the first time he did something like this, there's a long line of past clients saying he tried to pull the same shit with them.

>>1709305
She was in the legal right. He wasn't. The end.

>>1701274
Too long; didn't read.

>>1701274
Sounds like this is something that should be resolved in the civil courts, not over twitch.

>>1701274
Having only vaguely heard about this last year and reading both these stories now, I'd definitely say Digitrevx was in the wrong.
For one thing, if you're ever "doing things for free/just to help for now/out of the goodness of my heart", don't expect to get paid for it later. Whether it's a shitty thing to do given the situation or not, why should someone pay you if you've been working for free, totally unprompted? Especially considering Digitrevx himself keeps pointing out that Melody and her team seemed to have no idea what they were doing most of the time, what are they supposed to do, refuse his help?

>>1709492
Yep - he's a greedy dumbass

>>1701274
Can I get a rundown for someone who isn't part of the Melody Simp Machine?

>>1709305
I don't like melody but going
>HOLY SHIT, THIS PERSON THAT CONTRACTED ME IS SUDDENLY MAKING A SHITLOAD OF MONEY. I NEED TO GET IN ON WITH BOGUS LEGAL THREATS.
is not only beyond full retard, but also a dick move.
What's funny is that later Mizuryu Kei pulled the same shit. Maybe you should never trust artists.

>>1709681
This. The majority of his post is about all the things he did for free to try to gain sympathy, but legally speaking that doesn't give him any rights if he volunteers to work for free even if he gets resentful later.

>>1709529
Artist agreed to create Melodys 3D model and to sell it to her
Later the artist decided Melody owed him money despite already paying and threatened to dox her

>>1709971
>Artist simps/makes stuff for VTuber.
>She hires him, buys permissions for model.
>He does a bunch of free simp shit, too.
>She makes bank.
>He gets jealous, demands more.
>"No."
>He then threatens legal action and abuses the DMCA system to try and corner her. Twitch, being the stupid fucks they are, bans her. Turns out, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, and was paid in full already.
>Everything comes out later.
>He fucks off forever.

>>1709981
Alot of creative people tend to not have a good business sense, or simply don't research markets, and once something they worked on hits big (usually through other people's work) they want a piece of the pie.
My favorite example is the writer for the Witcher selling the adaptation rights for ~$10,000. But due to Polish laws he's able to come back and sue for the appreciated value that CDPR made his work into. That shit wouldn't fly in America.

>>1710585
>That shit wouldn't fly in America.
Why wouldn't it? You sell the rights, then they're gone. Simple as.

digi was foolish and naive but melody is just a greedy self centred parasite. it was a mistake to trust a literal whore.

>>1710735
She didn't do a single thing wrong. The fuck is wrong with you?

>>1710735
How dumb are you

>>1710735
Nigger, if I sell a fucking hammer to the most evil person on earth and he uses it to make a shitload of money. That still doesn't mean I'm somehow entitled to a cut of his profits, legally and morally.

>>1710520
I also love the fact that he insisted that working together once in the past means she has to sign further contracts with him. Somehow.

>>1709971
Mizuryu Kei V2

>>1710919
It's more likely you sold an evil person a hammer, but then they came back to your store and took a bunch of other tools and said that they would pay you later. The evil person then stops communicating with you and you are unable to get them to pay for those tools they took from you. The evil person then uses the hammer he bought, but also the other tools.

>>1701274
SO.... Are there other 3d model artists besides digitrevx? Just wondering if Melody is not limited to just choosing one artist or seems satisfied with the model she already has?

>>1710666
I was talking about trying to sue for more. Once you sign that contract then that's it. I know california has some state laws that let's people attempt to do so, but it's not hard coded.

ITT: Lot of unironic simps that just read Melody's power and didn't both cross-referencing with Digitrev's. >>1703215 is right and everyone involved handled this wrongly. Melody might have been in the legal right the whole time but she was not morally clean.

>>1711131
Well the good news is that if she took the tools from his store - he should have the contract and the promissory note. Good for him, this will be easy to fix then :)

>>1711131
That's exactly NOT what happened, however. He simped for free, then flipped and ree'd.

>>1710777
outside of america throwing someone under the bus is considered wrong, especially someone who is indispensable to your personal success
>>1710919
very high iq analysis, if only you had read both documents

sounds like a giant mess and why you don't help people out of good will without first talking about who's getting paid
make/sign your fucking contracts, retards and learn to say no when come ask you for help

>>1711131
More like you create more tools and give them to the evil person for free, then demand money after they've accepted what they assumed to be a gift.

>>1711131
Well then, if she stole a bunch of shit he wouldn't have had to file bogus DMCA claims and would have an easy court case on his hands. Why didn't he go down that path instead of being a retard?

>>1711324
>outside of america throwing someone under the bus is considered wrong, especially someone who is indispensable to your personal success
Yet there are iron-clad contract laws and copyright laws which can't be, and will not allowed to be, avoided.

>>1711131
It's be more like you went around to their house to offer them free tools as gifts, then realise you're in financial trouble because giving things away doesn't earn income
Then blame her for making you choose to simp

>>1711223
>but she was not morally clean.
Yes, she was also morally clean. It's funny how everyone trying to blame Melody can't actually name what she did wrong.

>>1711223
First of all, work on your english. Second, this isn't a moral matter, who gives a fuck about feelings, the guy worked for free, declared it as such, and then demanded to be compensated for it later. He's a fucking idiot.
You come by and say you'll mow my lawn as a neighborly gesture and later try to sue me, you can go fuck yourself. Especially with the shit he pulled on her, he should be happy she didn't press charges for harassment and attempted extortion.

>>1711223
>morality
>business transaction
don't. It's not a friendship, even if someone's being friendly to you

>>1711551
It is a moral matter. Melody didn't do anything immoral. She gave him multiple chances not to fuck up his own reputation, on top of everything.

>>1711420
>legal is the same as moral
good american

ITT nobody can actually successfully defend this digi guy. best case for him he did work for free and then instead of realizing and asking for a one time fee that was in line roughly with his cost on the initial model ($5k for whatever hrs) he just asked for a large monthly contract.... lol fuck off clown
its very obvious he wasn't willing to accept anything less, his entire billion word post screams entitled faggot

Looks like the guy decided to write a fucking novel, I'm not gonna read all that shit. I just read a chunk of it and he's mostly talking about how he did work for her for free out of sympathy. Nobody forced you to do that, my dude.

>>1711640
Name what she did immoral, then. Don't use metaphors or lie, either. She's not even the one that ruined his reputation. He did that, literally, to himself by making it all a public spergout. This is a straight up case of self-inflicted aspergers.

>All of this was trust between all of us with zero contract.
>It seemed like we were going to start working together in an official capacity soon so I didn’t stop and demand a contract when I was handling good portions of her overflow PR or being hit with opportunities for melody (which I was forwarding to her Manager and having discussion in twitter DM’s). I was so focused on helping Melody succeed and trusted that repayment was coming that I didn’t realize I was cornering myself. All these hours spent on Melody were hours I wasn’t working on paid projects and burned through my own savings.
Guys I've superchatted Coco thousands of dollars and been moderating her chat for over a month now, do you think she'll send me details on our partnership soon?

>>1711808
>Guys I've superchatted Coco thousands of dollars and been moderating her chat for over a month now, do you think she'll send me details on our partnership soon?
Knowing Coco? She MIGHT actually do that, if you made it meme-worthy enough.

>>1711808
First contact me, drop $10k and I'll give you all the details

Mori...your sort of doxing yourself

>>1711478
1. deliberately skimming over the very significant amount of work that digi did to make her succeed and protect her project
2. offering to pay the invoice and then reneging because he didn't ask nicely enough
3. deceiving viewers by implying that her income contributed to the technical project
4. lacking gratitude and the perspective that a full time professional commitment is not a "gift" even if you say it is

>>1711808
Hey man, I've been editing these Hololive fan translations for like 6 months and they haven't contacted me with a salary offer yet. They seem pretty ungrateful that I'm giving them all this publicity.

>>1711976
>deliberately skimming over the very significant amount of work that digi did to make her succeed and protect her project
No she didn't.

>offering to pay the invoice and then reneging because he didn't ask nicely enough
Are these his words or what actually happened?

>deceiving viewers by implying that her income contributed to the technical project
No she didn't.

>lacking gratitude and the perspective that a full time professional commitment is not a "gift" even if you say it is
He said, himself, it was a gift.

Jesus dude.

>>1709492
Not entirely, the claim wasn't for using the melody model or the unpaid charity work (though it was his underlying motivation), rather using his nanody model in a stream, which was lent to her but there was never something written for her to use it for monetary gain (i.e. a twitch stream), but since she used it infrequently deleting the stream it was in was enough to reinstate her channel. He DMCAed citing the nanody model, which was stupid but legally he had the right do so. He was also right for requesting the royalties on the logo design and renders when he didn't sell her the rights to it for sale. His request of 45k is pretty arbitrary and has no legal standing, however, so in that way you're somewhat right. His rights essentially extend to not allowing her to use things he created that she did not explicitly pay for or was given consent to use, which seems to include a decent chunk of things, her model not among them.
Basically think of it as, I made you this to use on your twitter but not to sell in stores. He can disallow anything she didn't have explicit permission for or paid for.
>>1709430
>this isn't the first time he did something like this
Is there anything on these past incidents? Might sway my opinion more if so
>>1709981
Here's a scenario; I have a large youtuber friend. She has a character on her channel, and she wants a second design for it. I spitball design ideas and draw some for her for fun. We have a rough falling out, months later she still uses the design artwork despite me never giving permission. I have the right to claim the artwork and disallow her use, even if its her character or we were in good terms when I made it. If she had PAID for it or if I had told her she could use it for that, I wouldn't be able to. Since that is not the case, I will be taking it back because she is a bitch.

>>1711991
Bro, I've WATCHED THOUSANDS of hours of Hololive. I deserve a job. Yagoo, ello?! Paycheck when?

>>1710777
Yes she did, she was born a woman

>>1712111
>Not entirely
Yes entirely.
tl;dr
>digi's hands typed this post

>>1709971

>Dude, check out this analogy.
Fuck off.

>>1711976
Sorry man, when someone hands me a gift, it's a gift. There's no obligation to devote a salary to someone who didn't bargain for a salary.
You want a job, treat it like a job. You want to do some stuff for fun and hand it out, then it's a handout.
He was just a greedy stupid simp. You negotiate your contract before you work on things.

>>1712248
Man, It's been years since I've heard that phrase. I guess it would probably be frowned upon in the modern societal climate.

>>1712288
It really boils down to he thought they were going to end up in some relationship, and when he realized he was the unwanted one, he decided to try out a forced break-up scene and it backfired. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't the one typing the paragraphs ITT testing out the waters.

>>1711976
To give my own answers to this
>1
>attractive grill doesn't talk about me even though I gave her lots of stuff
>2
Maybe, ask nicely. You fucking cunt. If it wasn't in the contract, any money changing hands is voluntary
>3.
$5,000 seems like her income contributed to the technical project
>4.
"commitment" = contract. Working hard for a charity is still working hard, but it's not a commitment

>>1711991
Remember when that translation channel ran by chinks actually thought they could force cover to capitulate to their demands because of "they never would have been popular without their clip translations".

>>1712459
Every time I dislike my country, I thank my lucky stars and human rights bill that I'm not West Taiwanese

>>1701274
Both are worth their shit, there's no saints here. And desu it's not even Digi that should be here - Shit that Melody was talking and doing actually was binding her directly to Giga Corp, too.

It's Melody vs Giga, not Melody vs Digi. Digi is here just as representative of one side.

>>1712546
Why are you even trying to gaslight? Digi himself admitted to doing all that shit. Everything he said was a baseless emotional appeal and only revealed he was dumb.

>>1712546
And to make sure - This is not first time Melody and her team screwed people, too. I'll not say too much, but she's not some fucking saint like everyone want her to be. She and her people are shady as fuck.

>>1712584
You know nothing. Trust me you know fucking nothing. But i'm already saying too much and you as blind simp would not believe anyway.

>>1712631
I don't think anyone here thinks a literal porn actress is a saint, just that digi is a dumb simp.

>>1712631
Melody was behind Benghazi, proof to follow. Trust the plan, two more weeks.
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>>1712094
>No she didn't.
Fascinating rebuttal. Where in Melody's account does she make it apparent that he was working regular shifts on her shit for 2 months?
>Are these his words or what actually happened?
Maybe you should read the twitlonger all the way to the end before asking?
>No she didn't.
Another brilliant argument, I guess we'll never know.
>He said, himself, it was a gift.
Where?

>>1712857
Why is it Melody's job to advertise for someone? It's not like she hid who created her model and rigging

>>1712631
>>1712687
You don't make yourself or the side you're defending look very good when your only defense is "I know everything, you know nothing, so trust me".

>>1712857
Imagine working regular shifts on someone for 2 months without a contract. He's clearly dumber than bricks.

Digi dickriders have yet to address the fact that instead of filing bogus DMCA claims, he could have just sued her for breach of contract and easily won if anything they're saying is actually true.

>>1712687
THEN POST THE JUICY DEETS YOU DUMB WHORE, I'M JUST ABOUT TO COOOOOOM

>>1713057
And they won't. They're hoping we'll just hate women enough to start up a bogus personal army.

>>1712139
Given the number of potential children I fathered to hololive r34, that child support check that I deserve better be in the millions

Digi is in the thread, isn't it?
Fuck off, cocksucker.

>>1701274
Digi is fucking retarded, but most artists are just like Mizuryu Kei. Who in their right mind provides free work/tech support with no contract lol

>>1712546
>Digi dude's manifesto: It was all me never ever Giga. I did it all and it Giga never did any work for her.
but do go on anon
>>1712631
wao
>>1713484 see >>1712631 the brand of faggotry seems similar
>>1711976
1 is 100% subjective its addressed as he worked on things and wouldn't take pay for months. srry that isn't enough for you personally?
bad start you act like you are listing facts but you started off with opinion bullshit
2 is a strong point, if Melody had previously said she wanted to pay $45k+merch% which would mean that we have a value both parties agreed was fair in the past.
3. idk what this even means and it sounds like incel shit.
4. LOL its a gift if the other party doesn't invoice you for it and turns you down at the time when you inquire about paying for the work. fuck outta here

>>1712111
This is literally the only post in this thread worth jack all. Actually giving a nuanced perspective on what happened that explains the situation instead of being a retard.

>>1701274
>DigitrevX

>>1715293
>subjective
S T F U Digi

it's the thread where /jp/'s hatred for digitrevx goes to battle against /vt/'s hatred for western women, let me get my popcorn

>>1716684
>/vt/ hates women
Just the whores, and Melody is the one exception.

damn now I hate people

>>1701274
Im not reading all that. Im happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

>>1716684
I'm just pissed that the anon that said they "said too much already" didn't even say anything juicy

>>1717402
And they won't, because there isn't anything that isn't already a fact, and that line divides Melody being right and Digi an auto-cuck.

>>1709305
I mean Digi also clearly implied that he could doxx her, so I think that makes him the worse party here.

I've read the digi side of the story now. Why are people mad at him again? He literally only suffered because he was being too nice. Nice guys do finish last.

>>1718341
The only tip I give waitresses is a fedora tip, because in this moment, I am euphoric

>>1718341
>try to ruin a woman's business because you're "nice"
"""nice guy"""

>>1718571
He helped her and she/her managers throw him under the bus. There should be an acknowledgement of work at least.

>>1710542
Isn't this the exact thing that happened to Hololive Alt and the Tenshi indi?

>>1718571
Imagine thinking that women are oppressed more than the real minority, gamers

>>1718715
They did. They even went out of their way for him not to publicly embarrass himself. He did so anyway. He falsly DMCA'd her, he threatened to dox her (illegal) and then threatened legal action (no leg to stand on). As I said before: this is self-inflicted aspergers. He straight up did everything to himself because he couldn't let go of a one-sided crush. She didn't want to fuck him, so he lost his shit. NO sympathy at all.

>>1711706
why would people even defend him?

>>1718722
You mean with Marine? That guy was a total fucking loser. Imagine having a chance to directly work with your oshi but you straight up can't not fuck it up.

>>1718736
Oppressed? No. Neither is he. He did this stupidity to himself then had the gall to beg for sympathy like a cuck.

>>1718832
To troll and rile people up.

>>1713133
Ogey, tumblr

>>1718836
>oppressed
See pic attached

>>1718900
Well, go on a crusade against a VTuber, I guess, and then explain how you're not rebbit.

>>1718794
He DMCA her to get her attention after she blocked him on every platform. He didn't threatened to dox her. She thinks he did which just show how psychotic this girl is. At least try to read his long tweet too. I fucking hate simps but what I hate more is people getting falsely accused of something especially because the other side is more popular. Happened to me once and it felt awful. I wouldn't be as nice as this digi fucker if I was in his situation.

>>1718341
>>1718571
Doing free things for a woman ostensibly because you're nice and then getting pissy because you didn't get the compensation you were never promised to begin with is textbook incel behavior.

>>1718993
>jerking about supa serial concepts
no

>>1719010
>He DMCA her to get her attention
And you defend this. Jesus. You call her psychotic but HE'S the one with a proven history of doing unhinged shit.

>>1719027

>>1719017
What's funny is: I'm sure he's dropped the word against her fans.

>>1719055
How do you contact someone when that someone blocked you on every platform for contact? You just leave it be? If I was him, I would do something much worse. And I wouldn't be stupid enough to show my involvement in them. This guy is stupid as fuck but he was betrayed and thrown away. I don't like that.

>>1719115
If you were wronged legally you sue them. Otherwise you fuck off and don't.

>>1719115
>How do you contact someone when that someone blocked you on every platform for contact?
Now why would she feel she needs to defend herself against someone unhinged enough to threaten to dox her and cause legal trouble, anon? He wasn't betrayed, he was the betrayer. If he wanted a contract, simple: ask for one. If he wanted more pay, simple: negotiate for it. They had zero obligations to him. Zero. This isn't even disputable because he, himself, admits it.

>>1719158
>>1719151
>legally
Fuck off with that bullshit. Do you know what else is legal? Most of the scams that exist today. There are some horrible shit that is technically legal because of some stupid wording of the law. If you want to live your life only adhering to what is technically "legal", you don't have a soul and should just die.

>>1719211
digitrevx go to bed, you need plenty of sleep for your court case

>>1719211
Scams aren't legal, though. People go to jail for them, anon.
I will state Melody ALSO did nothing MORALLY WRONG, either.

>>1719272
>Scams aren't legal, though.
Clearly you aren't smart enough to understand what kind of scams aren't considered a scam.
>I will state Melody ALSO did nothing MORALLY WRONG, either.
So her ignoring someone contribution, expecting someone to work without compensation and total ignorance of the feeling of someone that has been helping her from the start is totally moral? Fuck off faggot.

>>1719356
>Clearly you aren't smart enough to understand what kind of scams aren't considered a scam.
>When a scam isn't a scam, it's a scam!
Galaxy brained.

>So her ignoring someone contribution
She didn't, she publicly gave him credit before it all happened. Stopped reading the rest if you're leading with something this much bullshit. No more (You)s for you.

>>1719396
>he doesn't understand what a loophole is
>he has a strict definition of what a scam is

>She didn't, she publicly gave him credit before it all happened.
What credit did she give? Did she ever acknowledge all the hard work he did for months doing it for free? Did she?

>>1719010
>He didn't threatened to dox her.

>>1719533

>>1719533
>that is considered a threat
Wow you chickenshits are sensitive as fuck.

>>1719592
>If I deny that something that's clearly a threat is a threat that means I'm totally right guys!

>>1719581
>instant backtracking
So, he's a pussy, too.

>>1719592
It's a threat in the same way the old cliche mobster saying "it sure would be a shame if something happened to you/your business" is a threat. Just because he didn't outright say he would do it doesn't mean there's no threat.
If Digitrevx himself genuinely didn't understand how that could seem threatening, he's an idiot.

>>1719592
A scam that isn't a scam? Huh.

>>1719621
>saying that you know how their operation work and all their industry contact because you helped them before is considered a threat
This guy is stupid alright but this isn't a threat at all. What next? Telling beautiful people not to go naked in rape alleyway or something bad will happen to them is a threat too?

>>1712111
>rather using his nanody model in a stream

While this may be true, the copywright he tried to file does not specify the Nanody model, it specifies the "Projekt Meldoy 3D Character" and lists the publication date as 11/15/2019. Thus, he literally tried to retake all of Projekt Melody as a 3D character after he was compensated legally and fairly for creating Projekt Melody for another person. There are grounds to be made that maybe he could have claimed any financial windfall for the use of Nanody, but not ALL of Projekt Melody.

>>1719677
>Telling beautiful people not to go naked in rape alleyway or something bad will happen to them is a threat too?
Considering they DON'T, yes.

>>1719682
Really? He should go to court, then.
Oh, wait. He didn't. Wonder why?
Two reasons come to mind.
>1.) He couldn't because it wasn't legal to do so.
>2.) He wouldn't because he's a simp ass auto-cuck pussy.

>>1701274
It was a work for hire job and Melody provided receipts. Whatever your guy says doesn't matter, legally Melody was right.

>>1719738
If you can find a good lawyer, almost anything is legal.

>>1719677
Convenient how you forget to mention the whole "Usually people are not this wreckless", care to explain why he might mention that little bit right before talking about having access to her personal information?
I mean if he's somebody that ISN'T going to doxx her then why would calling him out be wreckless explicitly because he has those details?

>>1719736
>>1.) He couldn't because it wasn't legal to do so.
>>2.) He wouldn't because he's a simp ass auto-cuck pussy.
whynotboth.png

They're both shit.

>>1719755
If lawyers come into play, Melody will be able to afford the better team.

>>1719811
Vshojo also has a legal team, and if it decides ownership of a bunch of stuff important to her brand, then I'm sure she'd be able to call on them.

>>1719811
She'd also have, you know, the better case regardless of legal team.

>>1719758
Because people that are friends won't suddenly backstab you at the first opportunity.

>>1719951
He clearly wasn't a friend.

>>1701274
HE DID IT
FOR
FREE

>>1720061
kek

>>1720056
Correct. Only he thinks melody is his friend. Melody and her manager clearly think of him as a useful idiot doing everything for free. A simple minded simp with connections. Easy to manipulate and easy to shutdown.

>>1720089
>guy lies to himself to get in a girl's pants
Same old story. It's everyone's fault but his own.

>>1720101
Hmmm? It is obviously his fault too for being an idiot and not making a contract. Trusting others on the internet is stupid.

>>1719457
>Did she ever acknowledge all the hard work he did for months doing it for free? Did she?
Yes. At any moment someone asked, she told people that Digi created her model and assets. His Twitter account was even in her header. He was “Daddy Digi” in her Discord for like a month. Please, rub your 2 brain cells together and form an actual thought.

>>1720236
For free?

>>1720089
Okay, this "Digi is a poor victim simp idiot" needs to stop. There are other pieces of evidence out there that he is just a grade A fucking asshole and not worthy of being pitied at all for his simpery.

>>1701274
Digi assuming his account is true, is at fault because he did not actively construct points at which his work was done and create new contracts for future work. It sounds like he did a lot of work for Melody "as a friend, expecting she would pay him later". This is retarded but I see a lot of artists do shit like this. You need to be firm and consistently make the client understand where your paid work and any alterations etc end and if they want more they need to spend more.
I don't however believe for a moment he was hacked and probably leaked that shit himself in a moment of autist rage.
Melody and her manager (Boyfriend) because ultimately they were using him and his technology without paying him a dime despite him dreaming up some impressive autist tech for her when it's clear she hadn't a clue about how involved masturbating with a 3d model would be.
Digi undercharged and didn't outline where his work would stop and was firm about contracts and agreements. Melody and her manager were deluded retarded stacies who didn't realize that experimental shit like this is expensive and ultimately if you're getting someone to do all that shit you really should pay them.
Ultimately though Digi's reputation is ruined and Mel will get off high and dry with all his work for basically nothing because she's popular so there you go.

>>1720349
Without. Payment.

>>1720409
>batemaninvestigatedforcunnyposts.webm

>>1718722
Not exactly. Mizu simped so hard for Marine he somehow actually got a contract with Hololive to be their go-to for all manga works. Instead of using his brain and realizing he actually has a chance to get closer with Marine's roommate (who legends say is 11/10 even for jap), he suddenly feels the need to demand more money. Way more money. publically
When that ship does not sail, he has a meltdown on twitter and other SocMed, which is as huge of a no no as you could possibly have in JP culture.
They payed him off some pittance amount, his oshi thinks he's a pathetic loser now, and Cover got someone else because who would have thought being a manga artist in japan would be a large market

>>1720513
Man I dunno how to tell you this but a lot of artists are autists. They don't know how to act and a lot get fucked up about money. Ultimately if you're contracted you agree on the price you are to be commissioned for and you accept that. If the project is popular maybe they will request you back and you can ask for more because it was so popular. The idea of autist sperging because the project got really popular and that your contract is unfair is something I see with artists a fucking bunch.

>>1720583
Is this copypasta?

>>1720513
Wasn't there some other shit about doujinshi or something?

>>1720400
How is that asshole behaviour?

>>1720629
he is a hentai doujin artist i do believe

>>1720583
> a lot of artists are autists.
Yes, we are.
t. an artist whose been doing commissions and doujinshi work for over a decade

>>1720629
Word on the street is Cover told him to not do hentai while he worked for them. That was also a factor. Well, so he says.

>>1720629
Without Cover putting out a lawyer signed statement saying anything we'll never know since we can't trust Mizuryu's word. But working just from Mizuryu's ranting it seems like a culmination of multiple factors.

The manga workload being bigger than expected and him not getting more pay when he tried to renegotiate.
Cover asking him to stop selling his Cover-related manga. Not stop producing it, just stop selling it.
The Cover staff not letting him meet with Marine offline.

>>1720709
>The Cover staff not letting him meet with Marine offline.
I mean... why would this even be a factor, exactly? I mean, I KNOW why, because it's what HE wanted, but it's not a business-related deal.

>>1720709
>The Cover staff not letting him meet with Marine offline
>The go-to artist for Marine's company's "World"
>Marine herself talking to Mizu about another side project
>This fucking boy asks Marine's mom if she can come out to play
Holy fuck Mizu, just say you want to talk to her 1 on 1 over some world building or shit. Don't fucking ask the men-hating staff if you can catch a sideways glance at her. She's not a private citizen you fuckwad

>>1720629
supposedly official artist shouldn't get a free pass to break fan art guidelines(which technically involves pornographic material).
According to the bili stream he was asked not to draw holo snuff, but did it anyway
(see doujins released while he was supposedly working on holoalt project)

After sperging out about money, Cover probably had enough of his bitching and hit him with cease&desist, so he had to take down _everything_
(even tho mizu claims it was own his own volition)

>>1720736
He lives a very public life and cavorts with soapland girls and throws faux orgies advertising his MizuryuKeiLand mangas and anime. Which leads to one of two theories.
1. Marine doesn't want her roommate accidentally associated with that.
2. Cover doesn't want her roommate accidentally exposed for being associated with that.

>>1720820
bold of you to assume she had any interest in the first place.
Mizu isn't exactly what you would call a "handsome type", ontop of being wanna-be-playboy

>>1720638
That not doing it for you? Have some more.

>>1720973
Keep in mind, part of his beef with Melody was related to YFU, or more apt why she wasn't doing anything to promote her (which she was under no obligation to do, ever). Apparently, based on that comment and others, Digi was fervently trying to up YFU's popularity by riding on the backs of Melody, Ironmouse, and Silvervale, but the trio wasn't willing to do so. In another comment Digi says something about Melody having "something going on", which we now know was probably the planning stages of VShojo, which was a rather large secret back then. It is highly possible that, in addition to Melody's personal issues with Digi, stemming back months according to the private DM conversations between she and Digi she posts in the twitlonger in OP, Melody wasn't willing to build up YFU while trying to build up her own new incoming company.

In one of the tweets Digi says
>haha but you own the IP
How is this allowed to go on?
I understand there are problems but he admits he does not own the IP.

>>1721358
That doesn't make it legally binding.

>>1708655
Isnt she literally just a random stripper the manager happened to meet who had a anime voice?

>>1721358
It wasn't allowed. This is all done already. He fucked off and Melody continued one without him.

>>1721402
We have no idea what happened, all we know is that things appear to be resolved. Maybe Mel bought the IP from Digi or came to some similar agreement.

>>1721453
>Bought what she owned already.
Nah, he fucked off and she continued on without him.

>>1721462
She almost certainly did not own the copyright since she never signed a copyright transfer agreement which is the only legal way to transfer copyright, just the rights to use the body commercially (which is why the DMCA was bullshit).

>>1721453
I can't find anything in patents or USPTO
>>1721493
>just the rights to use the body commercially
So there is no recourse for Digi right, she can use it as long it is for commercial purposes right?

>>1720973
Digi is absolutely correct in his statement but I admit that he is quite an asshole here. You shouldn't badmouth others. This is probably because Melody was sidelining YFU because of her beef with him. Why was Melody so hateful towards yfu in the first place? Was it really because of digi? Was yfu also an asshole?

>>1721493
>>1721462

>>1720919
Bold of you to assume I believed she was at all interested in interacting with him.
I was just presenting the two theories that pass the occam's razor test from my perspective.

>>1721391
>>1721493
5th image picture Melody provides in the Twitlonger indicates she was doing the copywright registration while talking to Digi and asked him how he wanted to be represented. He does not insist to be put on the copywright as part owner, ergo the IP is hers. It is why his attempt to copywright Melody later fails. Now, the other items they discuss along the way, such as T0M, some labels, Nanody, and other things, he did not sign over to her, tho he "gifted" a few of them to her (no contract, no receipts, just verbal agreements). The only one he put his foot down on was Nanody because it had ties to another IP of his.

>>1721510
>>1721549
>>1721665
https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?DB=local&PAGE=First
Search "projekt melody". Digi owns multiple copyrights to Melody.

>>1721536
I don't think Melody has any personal issues with YFU, or the person behind YFU, but with Digi trying to force her to promote YFU using Melody's success to try to boost Digi's new product. This is consistent in all information that can be found: Digi wanted to use Melody's success to boost YFU, and, frankly, he sounded desperate. Like, he was surprised YFU didn't take off immediately like Melody did. Likewise, he wanted Silvervale and Ironmouse to promote her as well, even though neither of them had any obligations to Digi at all. Digi actually badmouthed Ironmouse saying that she was a nobody until Melody boosted her, but I think the crux of his reason for bringing it up is that he felt Melody could do the same for YFU. He just wanted to use Melody, and when she refused (because by this point she hated his guts) he started to use what he had against her.

>>1721708
So, you're saying she licensed it? Well okay then.
What you're saying is..
He fucked off and she continued on without him?

>>1721767
>He fucked off and she continued on without him?
No, he probably extorted her to pay him privately so he doesn't use the copyright maliciously

>>1721744
Melody didn't just not promote YFU. She actively avoids her because of her connection with digi. Melody admitted this herself. Is this fair? Maybe

>>1721900
But telling her friends to also avoid YFU is going too far.

>>1721708
Interesting. Note the 3D Character is owned by him but the 3D Model is not. Is this one of those things where succession is precedence? He filed his in October of 2019, the discussion above happened in November 2019, and Melody takes ownership (via a LLC) in February 2020. I have another image (I wont share here) that shows Digi tried to copywright the Projekt Melody 3D Character (again) in September of 2020. Why would he need to do that again if he already owned it? Something doesn't add up.

It's funny seeing all these drama between fucking nobodies.I laugh everytime I read about shit like this.

>>1721900
YFU is the one caught in the middle on this, because you know she got blowback via her association with Digi, even if she had nothing to do with it. Is all this fair to her? No. But Melody is under no obligation to promote her at all, and it has (an assumption) nothing to do with her but Digi. By promoting YFU, Melody would be helping Digi, and considering his extremes he went to force Melody to either pay him or promote YFU, it seems Melody would rather burn in Hell. Fair or not, to YFU, Melody owed Digi nothing.

>>1721930
They wouldn't have anyway, which is the same reason nobody from VShojo will go on CodeMiko. The girls are loyal to each other, so Melody doesn't have to say anything.

>>1722030
I love Projekt Melody and I will fully admit I'm pretty biased, but I have seen nothing that indicates to me that Digi is worth anybody's defense. On the other hand, why in the fuck is this thread still up for almost 11 hours when it is literally about personal IRL info that has nothing to do with the streamer's content?

Wait, so she paid an artist to commission her live2D and this guy just wanted a piece of her pie despite him getting paid for it? What the fuck? i don't like vshojo or melody, but I would at least know what's right and wrong as someone working in the legal department.

>>1722100
>promoting
Nobody asked melody to promote yfu. Just not to be a piece of shit towards yfu is enough. Like don't actively avoid her. Don't hate her because of digi. Melody don't even have the decency to do that. If she is that petty(remember that this is after melody and digi part ways but before digi went and dmca melody), she shouldn't even answer back when digi messaged her the first time.

>>1722232
There's a reason he didn't pursue it.

>>1722232
Correct. He has no legal justification. He was commissioned for a model. He made it. They ask for help on other stuff. He helped them for free because he thought they were friends. They weren't. He was a just a useful stupid simp that got played. Now he's mad for some reason. Stupid retard.

>>1722234
No, he wanted boosting and collabs. In this discussion, he mentions how he went onto Ironmouse's stream and did a donation just to ask her about it, which is a fucking dick move. There are other parts of the twitlonger from Melody that point out, in his own words, how he'd drop the required money that Melody owes him if she worked with YFU. Yes, Melody was avoiding YFU because of Digi, and Mousey and Silver were obviously not going to betray Melody's friendship. And, after that dick move, Mousey was sure as fuck not going to help Digi at all.

>>1722394
Yes in this instance. But I've also read his twitlonger which he also provided a screenshot that is showing Melody is intentionally ignoring his questions about yfu and why she is avoiding her. Not ignore mind you. Avoided like the plague. Is this also good behaviour from melody? Are you really ignoring every bad behaviour melody had done? Are you gonna say that melody did nothing wrong? My stance is that both of them are stupid idiotic pieces of shits. Both melody and digi. What's yours?

Ever notice how when a cute female entertainer does something everyone suddenly understands capitalism and treats it as fair?
Commies are pathetic.

>>1722697
you have to go back

>>1722793
Stop wasting money on funko pops.

>>1722362
One thing missing in this discussion is that Digi's model for Melody and the environment Melody existed in (her room, etc) used relatively obscure tech / coding, so it wasn't like they had anybody else whom they could go to for technical support. It's like someone commissioning you for a new operating system, and you're the only one who knows how it works. At the time, Digi had made other models, but Mel's was one of the more complex ones. Also, you'll note that Mel offered to pay him for his consulting and his work, he refused to take it. She provided numerous examples where she insisted he be paid and he kept refusing. At one point he even insulted her, saying that it wouldn't matter if he did send her an invoice because she wouldn't pay it, but we've seen no indication she ever didn't pay him for services rendered, other than the ones he never sent her an invoice for. So, the whole thing is a mishmash of bullshit as far as I can see, but only one person has been consistent and that's not Digi.

>>1722956
>At the time
At what time? The first time? Second time? Or was it after she got famous?

Who's YFU? A student exchange program?

lmao if you want to know who's in the wrong just see who made their twitlonger post a followers reply only.

>>1722682
I can fault Melody for a few things, but ultimately I agree with Digi's final conclusion on the subject:

"At the end of the day, I totally agree I handled things wrong and said/did some shitty things and I own up to that. I shouldn’t have gotten so upset. But it feels unfair that I did so much to help Melody while others are reaping the rewards. I felt betrayed then and I still do but I’m letting this go."

Of course both people make their statements with them being justified in everything they do, but I find it fascinating that despite explaining himself, Digi still thinks he was in the wrong. He was in the wrong. Whether in the wrong about doing work for free assuming shit would just magically get compensated or the escalation of events that led to him using a DMCA strike on Melody, he was totally in the wrong. The details between the beginning and end only make that more obvious. Mel made two big fuck ups, in my estimation: she didn't cut him off sooner and when he finally hit her with the demands she just flat ignored him rather than letting legal teams work it out. Yeah he was being a douche by that point, but she should have let someone else handle the business and distance herself from him while that is hashed out. Ignoring him was the wrong move.

>>1723065
YFUbaby. A rapper and Digi’s latest project. She’s actually pretty cute

>>1723045
I'm sorry, what are you asking me?

>>1723474
Ok, reading the thread it seems she got damaged by a shitty situation she has nothing to do with.
Well, damaged is a bit of stretch. It doesn't seem anyone is blaming her or attacking her, she just can't work with VShojo.

impression I get reading this thread is the tl;dr amounts to "I may be abusing DMCA claims in the textbook example of acting like a 'nice guy' incel, but at least I'm not RUDE"

>>1724174
basically

>>1719211
Lmao he spilled his sippy cup of juice while furiously typing that out. Jesus dude you are a little fagget bitch, why do you care so much? Why are you defending this dime a dozen artist so hard? I just want to see the contract, if there is one. If not than this is all dead in the water. Don't try to have sex with VTubers because it will never happen, they date only those they personally know in real life that they met OUTSIDE that whole life. Digifagget or whoever he is, no one cares about you, no one actually read your stupid post, and if you do Dox Melody I don't think you are prepared for the shit storm her diehard simps who'd do what you did for less and still be happy, will bring down on your head. Melody is great, went from triggering cam whores and Twitter feminists to causing simps to simp till they can simp no more because they want to be the only simp in the sea of simps. Get fucked fagget nice rambling irrelevant post you got there little bitch who probably has a small dick.

>>1722682
Are you fucking retarded? You are upset she IGNORED another virtual YouTuber? That's your fucking Hill you chose to die on? You sound like a little bitch, "oh noooo how can you just ignore EVERY LITTLE BAAAAAADDDDD thing she has ever done ever forever??!?!?!?!?!? Lmao get out of the house fagget, get some sun on your skin. Kiss a girl, you can pay a prostitute to do that you know. Just stop existing at the level you are.

>>1701274
>Dude does work for his buddy girlfriend
>Girlfriend pay for one of the items
>Dude sell it for cheap because he friends with the boyfriend
>Dude is dumb and lazy and doesn't do the paperwork
>Dude does more work for buddy girlfriend
>Girlfriend say she is willing to pay for the work
>Dude said no because he friends with the boyfriend and think he will pay him back later
>Dude have a falling out with his buddy
>Dude now demand to get paid for all the shit he did for free
>Buddy tell him to fuck off
>Dude is now salty and finally does the paperwork
>Dude is lazy and threatening to take it to count
>Buddy girlfriend stopped using the free items
>Dude doesn't have a case anymore

>>1701274
Both, digitrevx is a fucking jew with her work since he realize he was working for pennies and wanted more money, and the staff of project melody because they should had everything in a contract and not in a few word exchanges.

It still amaze me how Eilene outjew digitrevx not with one model but with 5 3D models.

>>1731785
Big takeaway from all of this:
If you want to become an official entity, make sure to do your legal reps first.

>>1707648
based retard

>>1720513
>who legends say is 11/10 even for jap
despite being 17+17 years old

>>1720513
Way of the Simp
IN and OUT

>>1720513
Cover should have paid him since they're a million dollar company

>>1732265
>Cover: "Will you do X for Y amount?"
>Him: "Yes."
>Also Him: *quits and makes a public spectacle instead of properly renegotiating*
Promises mean something.

>>1732428
you forgot the part where cover was demanding more than what he expected and he tried to renegotiate multiple times and was denied. No he didn't "quit" because the manga is still coming out

>>1732648
>you forgot the part where cover was demanding more than what he expected
According to who?

>>1732648
>Guys, I have access to secret knowledge, just believe me.
Also, the manga wasn't his in the first place. He was just an artist. It being released doesn't reflect his employment.

>>1732659
according to him since he posted it?

>>1732703
the hololive stuff he worked on that wasn't manga related was his though?

>>1732778
>according to him since he posted it?
Doesn't mean shit.
Also, no, he doesn't own Hololive. They just tolerate him working on it on his own.

>>1732888
okay so you agree that cover was in the wrong here and should have paid him, thanks. That's all I needed

>>1732985
>He does a doujinshi.
>WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING HIM FOR OFF-BRAND HE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHTS TO MAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
80IQ-kun, pls...

>>1732888
>Doesn't mean shit.
To be fair, if we (and by "we" I mean you) are believing everything Cover says about this, then you're fucking retarded. No company is going to come out and say anything that makes them look bad. I'm not saying "believe the artist" but his account isn't implausible.

>>1728146
imagine defending a literal whore this hard and you're calling the other guy a simp.

>>1736821
>>1732985
>>1732778
>>1732648
>>1732265
Defending Mizuryu Kei really? He threw his Bilibili manager and staff under the bus after Cover did the professional response and paid him to fuck off lmao. Nijiniggers didn’t use him against Hololive and the chinks dropped him after the Nanking denial, only a retard would trust him after he burned so many bridges.

>>1703215
This

>>1738421
Oh no, he fucked up, pretty badly. He took what should have been a cash cow and flushed it. However, he's probably not lying his ass off about the demand for more work than they originally said. That's easily believable that Cover (or any company, Japanese or not) would try that shit.

Why was digi so fucking stupid? Why didn't he just demand to be paid before making anything for her? Was he just a thirsty simp or what?

>>1721401
pretty much

https://twitter.com/marsmayhem42

>>1710542
The stupid jew also demanded 15% of her monthly earnings too.

>>1701274
Nux made a video about the situation.
Look like the guy that made the model gave shit for granted thinking he had implied some kind of co-op. Melody just wanted the 3D models, paid him for that, and fuck off.

>>1709618
The fact alone that dude looked for justice trough socials already is a dead giveaway he was in the total wrong. If he had even a single unpaid check to validate his arguments, or any contract he could claim it was breached, he would go to a lawyer.

>>1701274
The moment this stupid fuck placed this is the monent he lost.
Get fucked, Digijew.

>>1718836
>Oppressed? No. Neither is he. He did this stupidity to himself then had the gall to beg for sympathy like a cuck.
This.

>>1741658
Holy fucking shit, what a scumbag.

>>1738763
Sure, but all you have is him crying about it. That's all.

>>1701274
>Make 3D model for some slut for chaturbate
>Ask payment upfront and more after completion of the model
>Make good cash for a venture that won't fly
>Oh wait
>The venture did fly
>This Melody chick who is using your 3D model is making lots of bank
>Have the fucking gall to demand more money
>Plus a monthly percentage of her revenue
>She refuses
>How dare
>Pull a DMCA on her ass
>Whoops, your point doesn't hold a candle
>You get shat on for everyone
>Your reputation as a business partner is ruined
>Have to beg for sympathy like a cuck
>Nobody buys it
>Imagine being digitrev

Was the Melody situation not cut and dry? Why the fuck is this thread stirring up so much shit?

>>1708655
Digi is that you?

>>1742869
Becaise digitrev is fishing for sympathy in this thread.
Nobody in their right mind would side with the sad cuck.

>>1742843
>>Imagine being digitrev
I literally can't imagine being this cucked.
It boggles time mind!

>>1718341
You should never be "nice" with work and professional services. That's not nice, that's stupid.

>>1712111
anon I must issue you an apology, I saw big text and thought you were an autist.
I respect your hustle even if I disagree somewhat with your opinion.

>>1742924
I should've fucking trusted you, there's clearly one digi sympathizer in this entire thread and about 150 replies of reasonable hatred. God fucking dammit.

That bitch Melody should at least be grateful to her creator and accept his terms. They were reasonable.

>>1743412

>>1743412
Now, Digi, let me be clear. I don't follow Melody as I used to but I need you to explain certain things that your little brain can understand.
You modeled Melody's 3D model, but you didn't create her. Melody herself created her reputation and brand, you did not.
She paid you for the model. She even linked you in her Twitter until you got greedy and ruined your own fucking reputation.
The sooner you move on, the less it will hurt. Deal with it, you fucking faggot.

>>1701274
>the stripper vtuber has daddy issues

>>1742843
I feel bad for the singer who signed on with Digicuck and essentially got herself blacklisted from collabs by association.

>>1742869
some people want to pretend there are two sides to this but the only decent point they have is:
Mel in the name of fairness could have paid him something even after he wouldn't produce a # for months for his unpaid contributions even if she moved on from them quickly.
or something.
also women bad incel shit
beyond that this one is a slam dunk. if you wanna get paid you make sure its in writing who pays you what when.
if you don't do that, don't be a massive jew when you ask for $$$ way after the fact, or try to threaten and strongarm and pressure someone who have no actual leverage on to do things for you because "they owe you".
tends not to go well

Melody is actually surprising good at keeping lewd shit at minimum in her streams.

>>1743514
KEK Works on so many levels.

Digi? More like SHIGGY. Amirite, fellas?

>>1743688
>Mel in the name of fairness could have paid him something even after he wouldn't produce a # for months for his unpaid contributions even if she moved on from them quickly.

Even on that part, didn't she stop using the unpaid for gift work like logos and shit once Digi was clearly not willing to budge from his demands?

>>1743885
Ayooooooo

>>1701274
I gotta admit, after reading digi's statement and screenshots I have a hard time saying he was in the wrong and I think Melody's statement more reeks of "melody's managers told Melody this story." I doubt Melody is involved at that level and it's more some pretty slimy management.

I think this is a good cautionary tale though of getting shit in writing. I think it should have been some kind of "x percent of revenue until some number, then maybe royalties or a retainer or something." And left there after things weren't panning out properly. Melody's model is pretty complicated and I don't think there's any way to really excuse the work without compensation deal. Whether or not it is reasonable is one thing but I think digi is on the money on them trying to leverage OH OTHER COMPANIES BRO TOTALLY without any proof to get them to get paid less. I don't really care much, I think Melody has an interestin brand of charisma and I don't know how much worth it is going on with this over and over, but I think this is a good cautionary tale of "if it ain't in writing, you're gonna get fucked over"

>>1701274
>Some trashy whore using an anime avatar VS the kike autist who made her avatar
VShojo should stop working with lolcows honestly, maybe just drop everyone except IronMouse and Hime, because the rest are either whores with a tonne of baggage and drama (Melody and Froot) or schizos with a bunch of baggage and drama (Nyanners and that faggot that uses TTS instead of talking)

>>1744107
>that faggot that uses TTS instead of talking

Yeah can't get into that one because it's 100% a guy and possibly a MtF tranny who clearly can't do a female voice.

>>1744070
Oh Digi, you so silly.

>>1744278
nope, i think it's pretty clear cut myself

>>1744107
Have you watched Melody's streams? She keeps that lewdness minimum and and she also only one out of Vshoujo that still keeps facade. And does she really have a drama outside of this?

>>1744186
>and possibly a MtF tranny
I always though Zen was huge muscle guy for some reason.

>>1743890
yeah but they have a point because that early stuff was there for her when starting out so she got use out of it then quickly upgraded/abandoned when she started to sense what a jewcuckfag he was
its a really shitty point, based entirely on feelings and "morals" when we are talking about a guy who clearly thought he owned a camgirl bc he did such great work and favors and gifts for her which is so gross that saying he's morally deserving of stuff seems a bit odd
we keep seeing garbage like >>1744070
>i agree with artist
>it is all his fault that he didn't arrange compensation
>this is not contradictory at all
>somehow negotiating is wrong ????
fucking retard

>>1744511
i can agree with the artist that he got done wrongly but if it isn't in writing does it really fucking matter? That's not contradictory at all you lunatic.

>>1743890
She did. Digi mentions it in his dissertation as well. He took it as a sign she was not going to pay him anything. She did it so he couldn't demand any MORE out of her. Just a smart business decision once Digi was clearly negotiating in bad faith. The weirdest part of the "stop ignoring YFU and you don't have to pay me anything" part is that Melody flat out demands that he put down, in writing, what she is expected to do in recompense. IE, she wanted Digi to lay terms of what it meant to no longer be ignoring YFU so she could fulfill her end of the deal. Digi, again, refuses to provide those details to her and he pops off in his dissertation that this is all evidence she's only talking about "appearances" or whatever. He doesn't even use his own "evidence" to support him. He's a fucking nitwit at best and a shady manipulative controlling asshole at worst.

>>1743792
She gets it all out of her system with her other streams.

>>1744398
>opting to say frick instead of fuck while masturbating on stream
Honestly I'm not sure how one can hate someone this cute.

>>1701274
>Who was in the wrong here?
the fucking simp that let himself be cucked to death

>>1744566
If you do work for free, no one owes you anything. The only person who did Digi wrong was himself.

>>1744107
>a tonne of baggage and drama
Not really, almost everyone saw Digi as the bad guy in this situation and it's not gonna be an issue for them now.

>>1738335
Defending? More like I don't care and find the butthurt VTubers leave behind in their wake amusing. I'm a filthy casual and don't care if they succeed or fail. Your boy got played and you're here on a simping board simping for a simp that got out simped, now he wants a refund and you're there to hold his dick for him. Go outside and experience what that's like fagget.

>>1738335
Defending? More like I don't care and find the butthurt VTubers leave behind in their wake amusing. I'm a filthy casual and don't care if they succeed or fail. Your boy got played and you're here on a simping board simping for a simp that got out simped, now he wants a refund and you're there to hold his dick for him. Go outside and experience what that's like fagget.

>>1738335
Defending? More like I don't care and find the butthurt VTubers leave behind in their wake amusing. I'm a filthy casual and don't care if they succeed or fail. Your boy got played and you're here on a simping board simping for a simp that got out simped, now he wants a refund and you're there to hold his dick for him. Go outside and experience what that's like fagget.

>>1749247
>>1749463
>>1749624
We've entered into an endless recursion of time.

>>1701274
Digi is 100% in the wrong, dumb fuck shouldn't have worked for free, he LITERALLY even says at the end of his twitlonger that he should've made a contract and put up some form of payment. So I don't know what's the problem.

>>1752046
Melody shouldn't take advantage of dumb people. Nice people don't do that.

>>1752466
Not melody's fault, she was even willing to work it out with what she could afford to give, if digi was a nice person it would've been okay.

>>1720513
>When that ship does not sail

heh

>>1701274
Mel unironically did nothing wrong. Her success is from her own efforts. The artist didn't ask for payment in percentage of profit upfront, and they both have equal bargaining power, so that's his fault.

>>1749701
Thank God there's a new containment board for all the /hlg/'s that have taken over - >>>/vt/

TIL this "Digi" you're all talking about isn't "digibro". Thought it was strange that all of a sudden he was known for creating vtuber models.
t. retarded tourist

>>1701274
The artist is a fucking moron and I have no sympathy for him at all.

So we all agree that capitalism is a fair system, right?

>>1741589
She's ugly