/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

total CCV at the moment:

hololive - 114974
nijisanji - 72023

niji keeps on losing holy fuck yall are washed LMFAO call upon luxiem to save yalls asses and still cant compete omegalul

Ofc skitzos are first to move.
Gotta get that early worm.

>Stinky 10k
>mayo 9k

for the retards

>>17401326
Shut the fuck up

Damn, the Raft collab is doing way better than i thought. Almost 60k together.

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Numbers are gay
and so are (you)

CCV atm

hololive - 100594
nijisanji - 72958

NIJIKEKS COPE copecopce

If YouTube counted multi-tabbed views like Twitch I wonder how crazy the numbers for these multi-pov collabs would be

That's actually really good SCs for Polka, far better than I was expecting

koyo... your discord settings... for your numbers...

>>17401710
gj bro

Is Liliana Inclining or getting raided?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoiYw_UTb3Q
>650 watching now
Best i knew she was getting was around 300 viewers. This is a lot of most indies, much less for a small Malay flagship.

>INCLINE!

>>17402272
a verse over a 100?! wtf

gura bros...

>>17402305
The vsingers are the Ayames of Versen

Choco ASMR is losing to Iroha...

/vt/ malds at mori because mori went too far and mori is still winning

just further proof that /vt/ is a bunch of losers lmao yall stay malding, mori is unbothered and unapologetic as fuck

>>17402272
Are the Verse girls finally singing?
I've only followed the milf.

>>17402137
Iwanaga was a better company meme than Riku, until he gone anyway. I didn't follow niji to closely so I don't know the details.

>>17402367
Shut the fuck up

>>17401167
this is one of the hottest hololive drawings ever made Though

>>17402367
Anon we sell numbers here

>>17402367
who are you talking to man, this is the numbers thread

>>17402375
I heard from nijibros he formed his own agency?

>>17402367
>mori is still winning
to bad twitter and reddit cuckbucks dried up real quick. guess its up to Watame to cick kuzuha down another place

>>17402460
>>17402463

>>17402374
>only followed the milf.

>>17402367
>mori is unbothered and unapologetic as fuck

>>17401953
People appreciate top quality work.

Post cuckbeats

>>17402429
ok bro imma let you get mad at mori in peace... just know that literally this shit has no effect on her whatsoever, her viewership is still up there and she's still getting akasupas that ur mom cant even scrape from her ass

>>17402545
>>17402525
Shut.the.fuck.up sameniggers

>>17402631
Shut the fuck up

>>17402545
then all the better LMAO she apologized for it and yall still mad... who's the stupid one here for malding at something that's done lmao

>>17402722
Shut the fuck up!

Numbers doko?

It's always the same retard samefagging right? It isn't possible for this thread to care about Mori's drama at this moment although I wouldn't be surprised

>>17402651
>less than 1 minute apart
you ok there buddy? do you need an explanation how this site works?

>>17402610
Yeah I'm a Watamate and threw her some money for giving me kino with my oshi, I bet I wasn't the only one from the fanbases of the girls she featured to do so

>>17402816
Shut the fuck up

>>17402792
Niji pretty much got raped today and nijiENfags are malding hard cause feeshwhore got pushed from top 10 and vampboi got robbed from even a bronze

>>17402053
nvm, My Holo did incline.
Didn't realize they recruited a breakout star, in the transgender indie singer HØRI 07.

Kid of like if 96NEKO decided to join 774 and pushed the whole company up.

>>17402796
it is the same retard, he gave up on spamming gen5, council, homos or en x jp to do the mori routine, for now

>>17401953
enough to get past Rindous and Lulus corpse in total
and honestly totaly earned

>>17402361
Too much overlap rn, but it'll add up to her 1Mil collection in 3-4 months

>>17402967
>thai audience
whats next? flip or viet for the next gen

>>17401707
Old

Go Gozaru Go.

>>17403359
jinxed :/

>>17402272
>>17402374 (me)
Ok, checked her out now, she's a genuinely good singer and she's getting pretty good song views for her sub count.
アルバ・セラ / Alba Sera
>7.12K subscribers
Top songs:
>86,813 for Bloom Original

>Name means "white evening", "will be white" or "Dawn Evening" in mixed up latin languages.
Ok, sure, i guess. With her white hair and all.

>>17403391
Fuck me, just a bit more. But easy 400k for a 30min sex session.

>>17403230
And the retards still don't know about it, that's why they should be reminded.

>>17403359
KEK she just had to end, that was another 10k for her today. Proud of my samurai wife tho, she's strong despite overlaps

>>17403359
Pain

>>17403470
>>17403512
>39 min stream
why?

Miko Uncharted4 number?
20K?

>>17403665
Cool game but it's basically a movie with trashy gameplay.

>>17403640
Guerilla ASMR practice, she got embarrassed and ended it

>>17403772
Ok, yeah that sounds normal for her.

>>17403640
>Guerilla
>ASMR's not really her forte
>ASMR's embarrassing, and more tiring than RFA for her
She said gonna take a break for a bit so she ended it there. She's still gonna do superchat reading so she's gonna be streaming again soon

Is migoti virgin

>>17403950
Ask Pekora or Suisei General.

>>17403950
I raped her so no

>>17403950
Of course. All the Hololive girls are.

Can Kanae reach 20k too?
>19,202

>>17404035
based rabbit

>>17404038
virgin YAGOO ?

>>17402863
Pray tell, what exactly caused the Nijisanji CEO to become a "meme"?
All I know of him is that -
1. The NijiEN girls changed their profile pics to his face for a while.
2. He sold his own merch.
Both of which smell more like a forced meme than an organic one.

https://files.catbox.moe/zjmuyi.mp4

>>17404489
He interacted with the livers in a relaxed atmosphere, tweeted, appeared on the main channel and did collabs. Vtubers made fun of him, but he was some kind of local meme that they didn’t really try to spread.
One of the old tweets
https://twitter.com/rei_toya_rei/status/1078685195966902273
I am a different person

>>17405029
Thanks humble anon.
So, it's as I suspected then. Without anyone capable of reaching out to overseas viewers once they had the international spotlight on them, Nijisanji's influence outside of Japan was greatly diminished (compared to what could have been). Really, had a different set of livers gotten the attention, the entire situation would have been very different. Instead, one hard-filtered the tourists with FFXIV, and the other self-imploded over the increased attention. With that, and overzealous gatekeeping from what overseas fans they did attract...Well, we all should know everything that's happened with Hololive and the final results.

>>17405433
Anon, we've been over this for like 3 times last year already ...

>>17405029
sounds like humble beginnings and a neat guy in general.
how did it go from that to selling his own merch though?

>>17405515
He is somewhat of a youtuber, so why not? His merch didn't get any major development anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/c/rikutazumi/featured

Post SeaGOLD

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/sg956t/pashabiceps_talking_about_how_mercedes_divided/

Incidents like this can easily break a group, i always wonder what is going on behind the scenes.

>Finana's new original
121k
>Baelz's cover
117k
>Pomu's cover
67k

How did finana do it....

>>17405717
She sang a masterpiece song in english

>>17405717

her og sounds great

>>17401167
I wouldn't mind dying between this fennec's firm thighs

>>17405700
This is why agencies should let talents fund their own shit to avoid favoritism.

>>17405717
Youtube ads work wonders.

>>17405499
Yes yes, my bad, I'm gonna stop so we don't end up in ANOTHER timeloop. Again.

>>17405859
anykara...

>>17405859
It's why Hololive operates the way it does. Talents are able to fund their own projects, with the Cover name able to help them contact people they might otherwise have trouble reaching as an individual. Also, the flat budget that's now available for ANY talent to access if they want to produce an original song. Favortism in a group full of menhera women would easily lead to catfights and the very rapid self-destruction of such a group.

>>17405700
Streaming is individual effort though. Sure, management might favor someone but it's ultimately your effort that gives you numbers.

Speaking of csgo, it seems like blast is getting their old numbers back on youtube

Koyori has streamed over 10 hours two days in a row

Gura bros...we should bandwagon to nyanners...

>>17406468
She's so shy with her own co-workers, anyone else would be a numbers wet dream but an autist's nightmare. Look at pippa streaming in zomboid with the MilSim groomers, she literally had them muted while asking chat what to do. Gura might not even say anything for the whole collab.

https://youtu.be/R4yKnSLArBs

>60k ccv
>200k views

Genuinely curious where this vod will end after processing but that’s a super sus view count. There are plenty of JP vods that’re an hr long that hit 160-200k with a third of the ccv. It’s often sustaining it that’s hard, and not a short vod with lots of churn.

Weird as fuck honestly

>>17406795
views kinda fucked at the moment

>>17406468
lol, lmao

>>17405717
>EN Vtuber actually sings in English
>Original
>Song is a banger
Its a no brainer

>>17406864
https://youtu.be/ywvR52V7HiI
? It’s at 391k right now. Granted some bs could’ve happened but it’s processed already for the most part

>>17405700
> equal salaries despite some people doing more work demotivated those that worked hard
the curse of communism everyone.

>>17406965
that was 11 mins after the stream. just weird how views when back to 26k instead of it being 80k+ since that was the "verified" ccv

Here again for the weekly growth analysis of NijiJP subscribers. I don't even know if those are worth doing with how shitty the thread gets at times.

Top 10 looks fairly normal with Hoshikawa (4th) waltzing with APEX and song buffs (not as big as last week), Kuzuha (1st) gaining 10k every 2-3 weeks, Mito (3rd) normal growth (time will tell if her recent video focus will pay off). Himawari (6th) is dead as always, now surpassed Sasaki (5th) going hot off her well-performing PLA streams. Yashiro (11th) on track entering top 10 in a month, this depends if Ars (10th) can execute her viewer-submitted costumme result stream well, or produce some other hit content.

ROF-MAO members (Kenmochi/14h, Fuwa/17th, Kagami/21st, Kaida/34th) are doing well despite being out from corona, perhaps thanks to the ROF-MAO channel (305k subs, not in image) releasing a new well-perfoming original song (500k in 3 days).

YGO Master Duel buffs across the board, with Shiina (13th), Mashiro (47th, known ygo geek), and Natsume (91st, known card game geek) benefiting the most. Chaika (41st, stacked with a sudden costume reveal), Amamiya (33rd), and Mao (66th) is only slightly buffed.

Despite her relatively low viewer count Chigusa's (46th) growth is above average, due to the sheer effort she put in this week (game stream everyday+shorts+english only stream+organizing the valorant collab+uploaded a cover).

Ngo (54th) costume buff will kick in for her next week's growth.
Singing/Covers buff continues for Chima (23rd) and Akane (89th), but wore off for Lain (56th).
Valorant buff continues for Lauren (59th) but wore off for Ririmu (53th).
CR Cup buff wore off for Naraka (51st).

Sales so far.

>>17407115
Rion's been playing trash games and had to cancel a live recently. I am probably right in saying this is why her growth has been bad.

>>17407115
Keep doing the good work that you do anon. I pretty much only watch Hololive, but it's always good to be keeping track of the numbers of how NIjisanjiJP is doing subs-wise.
I know some say subs don't matter much, but that's definitely not really correct and is a bit of a warped view due to how explosively Hololive's subs ended growing in 2020.

>>17403665
shill stream
she played the old games last year and the number sucked
I guess 17k at most during peak moment, japs hate western games
and she sucked at the game it's painful to watch her struggles at the easiest portion of the game

NijiEN AmongUs prediction?
25K total?

>>17407190
Not bad for Polka

>>17407629
The timeslot is fucking horrible, lucky if 20k combined

>>17407629
10-11k

>>17407629
15-man POV?
Well, 5 man celebration got what, 10.6k peak for their 1 month? Given that it's going to be across all the channels, I'd say the COMBINED PoV easily breaks 15k. 10-11k minimum for the boys, 5k for Lazu alone and then overlapping fanbases for the girls means diminishing returns with more of them, but I still expect a peak total exceeding 20k, since burgers WILL be up and will probably tune in for the novelty of 15 people, in english, playing Among Us.

>>17407387
In Anycolor's pitch to investors they do note the subs of their talents and sub growth so if Anycolor cares it's probably worth noting. I feel if the company cares then it's a big deal since they're more likely to know how their bread is buttered than teenage schizos on 4channel.

>>17408045(me)
https://vrabi.ml/video/0Gplm3Mdkh0
This stream, was about an hour earlier than when this collab will be happening is where I got the 10.6k from.

Holy shit, Pink dog's done it. She held on and beat the Orca in peak CCV despite the bad audio balance

>>17408057
Also I should mention the talents themselves care so that is enough for me to take note of.

I feel growth rate is more interesting than totals though.

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1487827446837952512
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1487827446837952512
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1487827446837952512

Numbers Prediction? And what is the chance that she will play this with Gura?

>>17408297
The only numbers prediction I have for this is how many shitty bait threads it will generate and that's six gorillion

>>17408297
It's not a multiplayer game so..none? What a random question.
It's also not some sort of buff game so why expect significant numbers?

>>17408399
As board drama increases /#/ shitposting decreases.

>>17405812
>>17405786
>>17406928
>banger
Curiosity was peaked. Listened to it, it's kpop trash. Disappointed ngl.

>>17408297
Game is not that big of a numbers draw. Maybe clipfags would make stuff about it but as the other anon said, the only people who would care are the rrat brewing schizos on this board.

>>17408533
Thanks Mori! I kneel!

>>17408399
Jeez yea, It's gonna be bait city no matter what. Nothing happens? Bait. Something happens? Bait. Bait, bait, bait, all the way down.
>>17408146
True. We have Holostats for that sort of info, but Nijisanji doesn't have a similar, all-in-one-place numberfagging sites for their talents. For assorted reasons I guess.

>>17408297
It only works if it's a blind playthrough. What you're going to get is a bunch of fake reactions. The success of the streams hinges on how well she can sell her reactions

>>17408594
>Mori seeing /#/ thread is kinda shit so she tried to improve it by creating drama, thus attract all the schizos to go stir shit up elsewhere so people can actually post numbers for her

>>17408503
This board seems to have a weird obsession and overreaction to anything involving this game, i don't get it.

>>17408708
Me neither. Every chuuba who played the game know what they were in for before playing it.

>>17406795
With all the clips and later clicks it's going to get, should be reaching towards 800k-1 million in a month.

>>17408840
She said in her zatsudan after she's going to sub it into English

I honestly wonder. Had Cover been successful in mending relationships with both China and Taiwan, could they be the biggest/most known streaming group in the world? The only reason Hololive isn't doing so well in China despite being the most popular vtuber company is probably due to bili2's efforts to contain them. They were partly responsible for deleting pro-hololive videos during the Taiwan Yabe. Such lengths for a plan to drive out a competitor, how much did A-Soul pay them?

>>17408808
>>17408708
/v/ has been shilling the damn thing and people have gotten weird impressions. Also the mods here were deleting threads specifically about the game on /vt/ up until when Astel made his stream; there might be some Streisand effect happening.

>>17408708
everyone is deathly afraid that their oshi might out themselves playing it, especially because the character you plas as absolutely hates her fans

>>17408916
>could they be the biggest/most known streaming group in the world?
If they're not then who is?

>>17408916
I can tell you right now, the market for streaming content in China is not as grandiose as some claim.
Besides, its more short form shit now which is not great for vtubers.

>>17408995
China has an enormous streaming market, but it's more focused on esports.

>>17408995
Are you the anon that's keeping tab on vtubers in bili2? I don't really know how well the chinese vtuber scene is other than A-Soul being the biggest out of them all. I would've expected them to have new debuts now, but they're still stuck at 5.

>10 streams next week
Blue and Pink Lamy sure love streaming

>>17406795
are you new to youtube? views is always fkd first hours or so after a stream
Susan has to manually process every view...

>>17408916
Impossible.
B2 wanted Hololive OUT. Be it by Hook or Crook, they were going to oust Hololive or force them to bend the knee to them. The more I read about their actions and how unusually quick ASoul was able to establish themselves (alongside the KNOWN bullshit the mainlanders pull wrt corporate espionage), it was only a matter of time. The Taiwan yab was just a very convenient trigger for them, and if it wasn't that, it would have been something else, eventually.

>>17409257
I agree with >>17408916 but I also wonder if there's a timeline where the outcome is less "scorched earth" than what we got, and Cover settles into a relationship similar to what Anykara's got right now. Or was the scorched earth policy unavoidable because they had to be ejected completely by B2 to create space for ASoul, as opposed to just getting shunned and squeezed?

Tally doko?

>>17405717
It's her first original song - those tend to do well.

>>17409257
Yeah, that's the thing. Bili2 wouldn't allow them to touch the platform anymore even if they mended with the reason of "recognizing Taiwan as an independent Country". What I hope is that big chinese companies or game companies would sponsor or allow perms for Hololive again without heavy repercussions once they mended.

Other than that, still don't get why Nijisanji is still okay despite having members saying Taiwan over the past year. Did Niji bend the knee for B2?

>>17409434
NTA but it was probably scorched earth or nothing. The chinks really REALLY don't like foreigners profitting from their population. VR is a special case since they're all but independent from Nijisanji with Anykara being there to simply provide the tech and brand name kinda like that one egg maker thing with >Shaw's name on it that he didn't even know how it worked. Also, keep in mind that VR was not nearly as popular as Hololive was and even with their exit ASoul immediately took over the scene over there.

>>17409434
B2 needed the scorched earth since the Chinese loved Hololive(many still do if rrats are to be believed). They needed Hololive outside of Chinese people's head space and it was a way to do it violently, making them an enemy that is not really tolerated is the best way for them. I don't think it is very nice but I do wonder if Hololive had been less popular would this have been necessary at all.

>>17405786
>masterpiece
Fucking kek. Its not even as good as SPARKS which was made by the same guy.

>>17409434
It's possible, but, and I say this as a leaf zhang (1st gen), such things could very well have resulted in a slow-acting poison that rotted Hololive slowly from the inside. Perhaps it would have been in the form of having a CN rep present on Hololive's board to maintain their operations of CN or something similar that would give leverage on Hololive in exchange for their continued operation in the Mainland market. Such things are insidious, and CAN rot an organization from the inside-out. I'm not saying it would have happened for sure, but the probability would increase as time passed.

>>17409633
Because they're not as popular, ergo not a threat to takeover the Chinese market. Hololive unchecked had full control of the chinese vtuber scene. And if the Taiwan Yab happened just a year later (shit was inevitable regardless), we could've seen Holo's being ingrained in more multimedia stuff like what was planned for Onion.

>>17405717
>Massively hyped first original song
>Got funneled into by an outfit reveal
>Produced by the biggest name in the English language Vocaloid scene

Vs.

>One humble rat singing a debuff song because she likes it

The funny thing is that Finana will hit a ceiling while Bae's will keep growing. I've saved all of these posts for grudge posting when Bae's cover inevitably ends up with more views.

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>78,858: Polka (Hololive)
>61,408: Lui (Hololive)
>37,503: Aqua (Hololive)
>32,896: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>26,019: Marine (Hololive)
>25,547: Choco (Hololive)
>22,119: Lize (Nijisanji)
>21,066: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,789: Hal (merise)
>20,026: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,785: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>17,832: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,140: Korone (Hololive)
>16,748: Finana (Nijisanji)
>16,486: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,887: Elira (Nijisanji)
>15,557: Miko (Hololive)
>14,815: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>13,943: Gura (Hololive)
>13,677: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,169: Calli (Hololive)
>12,878: Nene (Hololive)
>12,513: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,778: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,737: Inui Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,311: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,045: Elu (Nijisanji)
>10,972: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,650: Noa (VSPO)
>10,237: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,173: Chloe (Hololive)

>>17409633
Simple: BB doesn't see the need to do push it, and there are no rabid NGA faggots after they burned themselves out on Hololive.
Also this >>17409652
They basically already own VR in all but name, unlike Hololive, who's vast popularity from the JP members greatly overshadowed everything else.

>>17409699
I'm of the mindset that it wouldn't. If ASoul had been a thing earlier and was already #1 over there before Hololive came in. And assuming that Hololive was simply a solid #2 (Ala VShoujo) they wouldn't have cared. Or at least the suits wouldn't.

>>17409869
>Nijikiller preventing Niji from getting a medal
I KNEEL AQUA-TAN!

>>17409740
>SPARKS
>good
KEK

>>17409936
Same, it was perfect time for Bili2 to kick Hololive out since if they left EN a bit longer, the support for Hololive would become to big for them to handle and would greatly incline HoloCN to the moon.

>>17409888
>They basically already own VR in all but name
Just so people know, they don't own it "in all but name", VR is a joint venture, Bilibili owns it in name as well (jointly with Anycolor)

>>17409869
I kneel to the ringmaster!

>>17409869
a good day to be a HagChad.

>>17409633
Nijisanji just isnt that popular there. Hololive was really big there. One example, When their relationship was good there was only 4 streamers on b2 with more than 1000 highest tier membership and Suisei was one of them.

>>17409869
Hololive 18
Nijisanji 13

A medal sweep and a 7 - 3 top ten again, it's been 5 months since Nijisanji has won a top ten. Very strong day for 61k to be a silver though.

>>17409869
What a day.
Nijisanji big hitters all streamed buff games,but Holo still hold it.

>>17409995
>incline HoloCN to the moon
That'd actually be a worse situation. The only reason why no one cared that CN got the axe was because they never got integrated within the HoloBox. Civia was just starting to do Youtube streams and Artia was still trying to grow her twitch channel. Imagine, if you will, a timeline where CN was fully integrated within Hololive with fans in SEA, RU, KR, NA, and ES. Axing them at that point would cause a civil war within the fandom.

>>17410121
>When their relationship was good there was only 4 streamers on b2 with more than 1000 highest tier membership and Suisei was one of them
How big is the streaming scene there? Do you mean general streamers or just vtubers?

>>17409993
I like Sparks, it's the kind of song that isn't impressive at first but it gets better the more you listen to itwsvmn

>>17410176
Hololive was propped up by collabs. You're high if you think gen5's least popular member and gen5's least popular member can get 78k and 61k otherwise.

>>17409869
Just close Nijishitty down already. As an unbias unity fan its actually sad to watch them get curbstomped every single day. They just can't compete.

>>17410225
general. Someone should correct me if im wrong because my memory is a bit hazy.

>>17410032
Yea, I meant that because of that ownership being 'joint', but the truth is that they basically have full control over VR and it lives and dies at the behest of B2
>>17410217
Oh gods...it'd be an absolute mess. While unfortunate for the girls who didn't deserve to get axed, that would have been an absolute fan-base shattering incident. The fact that it happened then, with the facts that were revealed ultimately allowed Hololive to terminate the branch without inducing a fanbase war for the most part.

>>17409993
SPARKS is very good and is one of the best originals. Don't know what KIRA was high on when he did Finana's song but its not nearly as good as SPARKS.

>TOP FUCKING KEK
Hololive is not shy about highlighting the shortcomings of their talent.
>battle of the tone death queen

Isn't it amazing that Noel beat NijiRock by s-singing?

>>17410361
The battle of SOVL

>>17409869
>Gold for Pol
>Silver for Hag
>Bronze for Akutan
NOTHING FOR NIJISHITS

>>17410361
> offical channel
15K

>>17410349
>while unfortunate for the girls who didn't deserve to be axed
How new? The girls were involved in the harrassment.

>>17410217
>they never got integrated within the HoloBox
Yeah I feel that way too. I wasn't aware of the box when I first liked Hololive back in 2020, I just like Suisei's karaoke.

I pondered a few minutes just now, thinking what if Cover puts up HoloTWD this year with all of them starting on Youtube and began integrating into the HoloBox with constant collabs with EN and JP. I wonder how it'd goes., could be successful or not. If Bili2 doesn't allow Hololive to put up a CN branch, then they'll do the next best thing. HoloTWD.

>>17410217
Well, axing wouldn't be an option in that case. In this alternate timeline, a properly integrated CN would have defenders (HoloDrones) outside the firewall. Cover has no choice but to fight.

>>17410250
cope

I swear if Pekora pull another ARK stream tomorrow…She only have herself to blame for her low numbers

Send in the Clowns

Interesting to see how Gura fucked herself out of VOD growth for what should have been two easy 400k+ streams (GTA and Bully) by:
-streaming both of them on the same day, making the YT algorithm only recommend GTA
-immediately getting GTA DMCAed and not fixing it right after

So now neither of these streams are recommended and their VOD viewership is dogshit, while the Kronii collab of a mega debuff game will end up surpassing both.

>>17410490
She had very good numbers with Ark so far, now that Aki is back she can easily do something together with her for a "PekoMoona, but Ark and Aki" arc

>>17410474
>HoloTWD
No,Cover wont do that.

>>17409869
nice

>>17410250
You might want to check how many of those niji golds this month where collabs before you open your mouth.

>>17409869
Ange ranked!

>>17410554
Yeah, they haven't even put up HoloKR yet, it's been ripe for the taking for months now.

>>17409869
I have a feeling Polka is going to incline decently after this. This just feels like it was a landmark event for her and she shattered the expectations of the typical birthday live.

>revived streamer from the pre-nijishit period of streams still mogs nijishitty

>>17410609
She also ranked this month on the 23rd, on the 18th and 16th and 15th too.

>>17410472
Artia and Civia were. Yogiri wasn't. dunno about the rest

>>17410521
Its really not a big deal. What Gura needs to do is release more songd and shorts and she will soar to having the most total channel views in Hololive pretty easily. The fact that she is as high as she is (well over 200 million) on basically just stream VODs is actually fucking insane.

>>17409869
>13,943: Gura (Hololive)

bros...

>>17410637
Poor Chigusa.. Stuck with a shitty gen, forgotten by the rest while Polka basks in the light with an average 6k ccv.

>>17410548
Well I would still prefer more variety. Once again I will put my trust in Peko that she know what she is doing

>>17410628
The japanese boards where saying have her run all future concerts/3d lives, they absolutely loved it.

>>17410349
Honestly, if Bilibili really wanted to kill Hololive as a brand, that would've been the play. The more I think about it, the spookier it gets.
>Civia becomes Onion maid's Moona
>Yogiri getting along with Torre.
>Artia, Moona, and Ollie in full autism mode
If that shit happened, axing HoloCN without doing major self damage to your own brand would've been impossible. I legit think Coco either dogeza's or graduates outright just to keep the "family" together.

>>17409869
I missed this. It's as if the first week of december came back.

>Aqua beating Kuzuha
kek

>>17410554
Agreed they won't and it wouldn't be worth the political consequences it could have, but in a world where the PRC had the political clout of North Korea a Holo TW could be huge, it's a far bigger market for vtubers than Korea or Indonesia is

>>17410628
>I have a feeling Polka is going to incline decently after this.
>>17410746
>The japanese boards where saying have her run all future concerts/3d lives
Doesn't she have a very hands on and visible manager, Izutsu-san IIRC? She may share some credit (and end up getting a promotion out of this)

>>17410712
that's actually 65K and a silver without the cull

>173 comments and 604 likes on Gura's 3 minute old community post
jesas

>>17410802
HoloTWD talents wouldn't be safe. HoloKR is still better and Youtube is dominant there.

>>17410873
Considering how Youtube is notoriously bad with membership notifications, that's pretty fucking good. Shame we'll never really know the amount of members each holo has.

>>17410873
She needs to use that more since she has near 4 million subscribers on youtube compared to 1.3 million on twitter. All of her stream announcements and schedules should be posted on youtube.

>>17410904
>HoloTWD talents wouldn't be safe
Wut? Taiwan is a defacto country exactly because zhangs can't across the strait. They would be safer than HoloKR, if international politics is to be concerned

>>17410925
why is she naked

Holols get 2 buffs minimum per year per member (minus 1) in birthdays and anniversaries. There's also one time buffs in debut, new outfits, and 3D.
Out of curiosity, how many Holo birthday / anniversary that didn't medal in 2021?

>>17410349
Only ones physically living outside of china could really even try to join the box because of the firewall.
Chink authorities 100% would have come down on them like a ton of bricks had the ones inside china tried to do that regularly because they cannot afford to have prominent figures flaunting the rules.

>>17410746
Well, she is a veteran of the vtubing world so it's not unexpected for her to know how to put on a show. Probably why she was even hired.

>>17410998
Only Towa I guess

>>17410628
It depends on if Polka herself can muster up the discipline and motivation to do so. If the girls consult with her as to how to plan their Lives though, that would probably be a set up for everyone.

>>17410904
That's bullshit, Koreans mostly use Twitch or their own native sites, while all the main Taiwanese vtubers are on Youtube

>>17410945
She used to.
Then she stopped.
GURA PLEASE.

>>17410988
Squint harder blind bud, it's a chinese dress

Holobros explain?

>your oshi getting btfo by Shinonome Chimera

>>17410856
Izutsu-san should get a model. She deserves it way more than some vtweeter who constantly goes "umm actschully". It'd improve PolkaDen if it's a 3D too.

>>17411077
Are the girls allowed to plan their company events?. Apparently most people blame Sankisei themselves for the disastrous firs concert because they didn’t demand better. I honestly dunno how these company concert work and how much influence the girl have over it so I would just assume that it’s mostly management decided how the concert should be

We getting raided by spics?

>>17410746
much deserved too, this was the best 3D concert I've seen so far hands down

>>17411205
But Omega is well regarded by the talent and a big engine for the branch.

>>17411212
all I know from her streams / mengen posts etc is that Polka did work a lot on this one

>>17405700
I hope Cover changed their contract to give salary based on performance rather than "stream 3 times a week" for EN and ID. Getting a fixed salary streaming just 3 times a week doesn't encourage hard-work. Pekora could stream 7 times a week, she'd still be getting the same salary as other Holos.

>>17405717
Her song is great. That's all.

>>17411212
>Are the girls allowed to plan their company events
To the best of my knowledge it's not just that they're allowed, they're required.
These girls aren't "performers", they're the life and soul of the company. I truly doubt they ever just get handed out a script and have to follow it.

Proof to that is Haachama's birthday. She adlib the whole thing (even having a script), to the general enjoyment of both the audience and the guests

>>17411212
Suisei had a very hands-on approach to her STELLAR INTO GALAXY, and was constantly working with staff on it. Aqua also was working and in constant consultation for her live for almost a Year, as per her mengen just a few hours ago.
I suspect that while they do have input for something like a full gen 3 concert, if none of the talents themselves push, ask, or request for it and kind of just go along for the ride, well...
Perhaps they WANTED to try something different, but the execution didn't go quite as well as they had hoped? It's hard to say.

>gura is no longer a meta

>>17411286
Newchama their "salary" is absolute peanuts, everything else they earn (SCs, membership, merch, sponsorships, adsense etc.) is down to their performance and popularity

>>17411279
Honestly I was just sad whenever the topic of Sankisei live got brought up. I’m quite certain it ended up hurting their reputation albeit just a little
Make me wonder what could have been if the girls get to decide what they want, afaik they at least get to decide their songs

>>17406132
Botan said it was one of the least catty places she's ever worked. Cover would be dumb to upset that. If the rrats about PekoMiko are true then feuds about favoritism would be back breaking.

>>17411274
>Omega is well regarded by the talent and a big engine for the branch
Gura spent all of yesterday's stream mocking him. And parts of the Arceus stream too.

>>17411286
That's pretty much irrelevant for holos, their earning are already based on popularity.

You guys deserve my shitty paint job to see this fucking stupidity that is YouTube numbers.

>>17411350
Yeah Pekora revealed that the concert will be a bit “different” like 2 days before make it sound like they actually wanted to try something new
Wasn’t Aqua live similar to that? But got salvaged because Aqua can sing and dance better

>>17411388
>>17411473
Split 70-30 from all revenue sources for new debutees for the first 3 months. If they do well during it, they could negotiate for 50-50.

>>17411451
I think a strong part of that is the strong leadership at the top (Fubuki/Sora) and that they're not competing against each other (Cover makes sure to spread sponsorships among everyone).

>>17411350
Well Suisei and Aqua are experienced in doing concert outside so they definitely has their own standard and knowledge about 3d events unlike sankisei.

>>17411286
Their salary is like $400 a month, I imagine that isn't much to the talents since many of them make 100 times that.

>>17411538
Both including Watame also earns a lot by not singing to a label. Kuzuha going the idolroute should become a meme.

>>17411478
>2.5 hours vs 1
Look, I get what you're trying to imply, but there are too many compounding factors, but we already know that at the moment EN is eating a heavier cull than JP, just like JP was eating a heavier cull than EN at the start of January, before the unflagging happened.

>>17411478
You picked a bad example, Calli VOD is double the length making any comparison skewed from that alone

>>17411538
Seeing Polka 3D make me want her to lead a Sankisei revenge concert where they actually do things properly this time
They deserve better than being the laughing stock of Hololive after that concert

Who the heck is Shinonome Chimera?

>>17411527
The talents would be pretty fucked. They make 35% from SCs and memberships, more than half for merch(sometimes up to 80%), and a decent chunk from Youtube revenue.

>>17411597
>>17411606
>Longer vod

Who fucking gives a shit when Lui had almost 5x the viewers tuning in. It's already over 4x, and came right after an event where people were tuning in left and right. Length does not mean much at all anymore after that.

Question which Niji already had their own sololive? I only know Toko had one

>>17411286
The salary is so little it barely matter, even if they do pay based on performance, it would still be just a nice little bonus on top of what their made from streaming alone

>>17411495
Aqua had stronger theming (Alice in wonderland), was focused primarily on her and her alone, and was a tigher, more focused set as a result. Having to deal with a full generation instead of One person + guests makes it much easier to get right.

>>17411660
>Who fucking gives a shit
There is a big correlation between VOD length and VOD views. it doesn't nullify your conclusion but makes the comparison harder to get

>>17411660
No, length is a massive deal due to viewer churn. There are better examples out there, every day even, so pick a better data set.

>>17411643
Not entirely fucked, they could still be well off. One month should be sufficient instead of 3 months. They need be force to grind the first month like HoloX and Luxiem.

>>17411705
I hope Sankisei at least still got paid well for it

Any idea saving holoen from nijien and vshoujo

>>17411727
Most gens try and grind their first month/year/never stop. IRyS did too. Council is a complete outlier, no reason the change course because one gen didn't get the memo.

>>17411818
they dont need saving

>>17411710
Yes.
I'm certain for sure though, based on that horrid checkmark of a graph, that stream was absolutely culled to SHIT. I'd say it should have easily been double that number, based off of some of the graphs we saw in early January.

>>17411710
>>17411724
Hour long videos are notorious for having inflated views due to the nature of what they are. Events/Hype collabs are notorious for reeling in huge amounts of viewers, which is often why you see shit like La+ garnish more viewers in her hour long vod than Koyori in her 6+ hour vods. No one is Gura; Most people do not garnish the same tourism that she does over the course of time.

https://youtu.be/ywvR52V7HiI
The literal event that was right before this that had 12k more average viewers got 150k more views than it, same time frame.

>>17411823
The only ones who got "punished" for it was Sana and Bae (who ironically is the one trying the hardest).

What's the point exactly?

>>17411533
Yeah, people follow the leader and the most respected person in the room. Cover having a big pool of sponsorships is really helpful. Shit like pic related keeps the ship running.

>>17412113
Keeps the talents reasonably happy and it shows.

>>17411892
Technically it punished all of them when you're thinking of opportunity cost. Don't even expect them to match HoloX, but if you leave the door open people are going to leave and end up watching someone else.

>>17410451
It's just a premiere, like all their other shows on he channel nowadays.

>>17412113
I got reminded that Pekora barely show up in these sponsored stuffs except when it is full Sankisei sponsor
But then I remembered that she probably hog more than half of the game sponsor for herself since all she do is playing games anyway

>>17411459
Being able to casually rag on your manager actually suggests they like him and have good rapport. I see you have never worked in a professional environment before.

>>17408131
She was definitely helped by the fact that Koro-san's stream was buffering for a lot of people. Koyori's scuffed audio was an improvement.

>>17410761
>I legit think Coco either dogeza's or graduates outright just to keep the "family"
Coco ended up graduating either way

>>17412647
Yeah but instead of the grand send off she got that shattered all records it would have probably just been a depressing zatsu like what Lulu got.

>>17411660
>>17411478
You need the same duration to get reliable comparison numbers if you want to use VOD views
Look
>61381 ccv * 162k/242k vod views * 67/153 minutes = 17993 peak ccv. CHAD peak is 26% lower than the projected peak
>47977 ccv * 162k/242k vod views * 67/153 minutes = 14064 average ccv. CHAD average is 15% lower, which is within margin of error and viewer retention

>>17412820
Don’t remind me of Lulu’s graduation anon… that shit was actually just plain sad to watch

>>17411618
as someone who didnt see Sankisei, what was so bad about it?

>>17410761
Civia was a huge Aquafag, she wouldve been like K*ara with Peko, not Moona

>>17413201
Ehhhh dunno where to start. I will keep it simple
>70% dumb skits, 30% actual singing and dancing
>Barely any dancing anyway
>100% Unity store assets, not even the high quality one
>Not a single original song from any of the girls or any iconic song
>It actually got pretty good later on imo but ended right at the climax
>They charged 5000 yen for it

NijiEN with 10 POVs hahahahhahahahaha

Kejserens nye klæder the gura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBLwxlHvmwc

Seems like Sony Interactive Entertainment has gifted Miko a copy of Uncharted 4, also she has SC enable now

>>17413371
Forgot to mention, this is their first ever concert so the disappointment was even bigger

>>17413497
There’s at least 14k people watching them right now lol

Who is the leader of the NijiEN collab?

>>17413672
>There’s at least 14k people watching them right now lol
kek, true but don't forget to mention that about 11k are the boys

>>17413734
Damn, the guys just fucking curb stomp the girls.

>>17413734
>don't forget to mention that about 11k are the boys
This is hilarious and sad

>>17413734
>females in manjisanji
lmao

>>17413734
just graduate the girls already, at this point they are deadweight

>>17411173
good singer > bad singer

>>17413734
wait, why is this happening on EU prime time?
Aren't most in NA time frame?

>>17413734
Holy fuck

The girls need to get out now and see if YAGOO will have pity on them and let them join ID gen 3. There is no room to grow for girls in Manjisanji.

>>17413672
>>17413734
20k now with 13k watching the boys

>>17413734
>That Vox thumbnail
Jesus it’s a combination of the Cheld face and Amogus. Literally prime meme thumbnail

Post SEAYSTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Eo2uk_5wk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-Eo2uk_5wk

The Nijisanji covers list for the week is also out.

Some placings already spoiled by the
"All new covers this week top 30"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvzHQ7H9b3Y

>>17413864
>ID3
Would unironically be an upgrade for them. Holy shit this is bad.

>>17413865
And 3 vs 7 lmao
Male average: 4510 per stream
Female average: 1074 per stream

>>17413978
Nobody cares. Let me know when the Hololive list is out.

>>17413734
When will Nijisanji admit to themselves that they suck at handling female talent? Just be an all male company at this point

ID3 will smash Co*ncil

>>17414040
It was out in the morning, check 2 threads ago.
>>17385267

Both are out on Sunday...ish.

>>17414039
They actually would have a better chance against Hololive if they just doubled down on the male part of the company

>>17413797
No you stop. Niji still needs them girls as accessories. An all male Niji is just a shittier kpop.

>>17414039
It's not because they suck, but because the brand just doesn't pander to idolfags and unicorns
Hololive got the unicorn and idolfag audience while nijisanji got the fujo and fag audience, so a woman in nijisanji is never going to be as relevant as a man under the same company

>>17413978
Speaking of the 2nd list.
This is what an add looks like and brings you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijlm9MUpr5w
>633,812 views
>4th place for the week
>123 likes

>>17409869
really happy for porka

>>17414153
>>17414039
Timeloops again

Not understanding that the female vtuber market was already overcrowded with Holo, Vshojo, indies, smaller corpos.
But the male market was up for grabs.

And not just the male market, the still mostly untapped Fujo market. Who have been edging from not getting a Connor Sebastian video in forever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAKvIMwoxQ

>>17414153
It isn't just that. It's also the fact that 'Hololive = Cute girls being dummies and doing funny shit together' is the brand, and if you want to see 'guys doing dumb shit together' it's Nijisanji for vtubers. That distinction matters, because it isn't just fags and fujos watching NijisanjiJP, as per their gender split demographics.
That carries over to the EN branches too. It doesn't help that since HoloEN grabbed so much mindshare for Hololive = female vtuber in the west, that NijIEN females are kind of cursed.

Gender discrimination..

>>17414420
And soon they'll all be infected.

>NijiEN’s market cap increased to 25k from sub10k thanks to the fags
Good for them i guess

>>17414420
>not recovering their waiting rooms
uh oh, is this huge collab going to trigger CCVID?

This calculates to about 23,000 live viewers

>>17413734
Wait wtf? Why the hell are the dudes getting relatively good numbers? I thought their audience was only SEA+CN?

>>17414537
Who said that? Many have said they get their biggest numbers there, but the guys pull okay numbers in NA hours, and AmongUs draws in the casual onlookers, even if it's no longer the SUPER POPULAR IT GAME.

>>17414537
That was mostly holocope, while they do have prominent sea fanbase to think that they hardly have a NA fanbase is pure retardation

>>17414537
There's literally nothing to watch right now except NijiEN.

>>17414499
Nijigirls have long been heavily infested..

>>17412363
curry meshi and that carrots thing comes to mind for when she does do them and curry meshi is like one of the biggest ones hololive has done overall

>>17414537
SEA, CN, JP are their largest blocks.

>>17414499
Potentially, and I'd the guys start having trouble recovering their waiting rooms too too I'll laugh. For today, the multi-tab culling is in full force, which on top of CCVID makes the nunebrs the girls get EVEN WORSE.

>>17414376
Most NijiJP fans are male though, the fujo aspect is greatly exaggerated as a whole. NijiEN is just in hyper overdrive.

>>17414499
Don't forget the new outfit relay.

>>17411989
having fun?

>>17414727
Yea, that is what I meant by 'gender split demographics' since most of the livers had majority male audiences.
NijiEN ism..a very different beast in terms of their demographic numbers.

>>17413978
thanks anon

>>17414376
It seems whoever acts the most like "real" life anime gets the most views. Hmmm.... I think niggers who want people to behave like people are in the complete minority.

>>17414376
>. It doesn't help that since HoloEN grabbed so much mindshare for Hololive = female vtuber in the west, that NijIEN females are kind of cursed.
Why doesn't VShojo share the same problem as the NijiEN females?

>>17415003
Talents got big outside of youtube and some before HoloMyth debuted.

>>17415150
for >>17415048

>>17415048
Completely different audience on Twitch, and they act in a sufficiently different style that also attracts different subsets of male viewers.

>>17414010
and that's with no Holos streaming. Cant blame the competition

Post seadevil

>>17409869
OH NO NO NO NO

>>17411173
>Comparing first original songs with a cover and a 3rd
Come on, anon, at least compare the same thing - first original songs against each other, or cover of the same song. What do we get if we do so?

>>17414530
EN gold is safely on our hands holobros!

>>17414530
>>17408045
Looks like my guess was right. Exceeded 20k for the collab, though they only went with 10 POVs I see

>>17410869
copium

>>17414345
I have a feeling that throwing away the anime influence might be one the ways for male vtubers. Like Dream, Technoblade, I know they aren't "vtubers" but they all have their 2D icon as avatar. And there are many famous youtubers without showing their face at all. Normies are still the biggest on both youtube and twitch.

But also Hololive rise because they go for the slice of life anime route (with idol related stuff for events) and make a difference for the brand and market.

>>17411212
>>17411341
3rd gens talked about this in detail, they didn't want detailed script to make it "less stiff"
did it work? Maybe, it wasn't bad show. It felt short, but it's not like anyone wanted their money back

>>17411286
ye the base part, and I'm quoting multiple talents here, "covers the basics"
You want salary, get some ad revenue rolling in...

is this the highest total CCV NijiEN has ever had?

>>17415682
Vox debut + NijiEN debut program

>>17415345
don't poke the holoschizo bear
they will start sperging again

>>17413371
thanks for the summary! ya that sounds medicore at the very best, but not for 5k yen...

27,000 CCV

>>17415608
do you think their fans would ever make it that big of a deal? going as far as to demand their money back?
harsh critisism is already more than youc an expect from japs in these cases and it shows just how bad it was

>>17415908
Being tabbed out is a guaranteed no-count to the CCV, right? Just making sure

>>17415908
and the girls at almost 11K

>>17415908
Niji incline

>>17416101
Oh god dont start the timeloop....

>>17416188
take your meds retard

>>17415908
>10 povs
>15k out of 27 are from 3 of the males
cant really say this is a good or not for the females
Good for

>>17415908
>Collab in shit hour
>Still managed to get 27,000 CCV combined
>The girls managed to get 10,757 CCV combined too, broke their previous records (debuts not included)
Anyone looking at this and can't realize that NijiEN has been inclining significantly is either blind, dumb, or a schizo

>>17416347
nigga is a hige mega collab and is fucking sunday. Ho many povs and ccv was their last amongus colab?

>>17416252
Good. The NijiEN female cap used to be 10k.

Nimu 24k

>>17416347
Girls are also susceptible to severe CCVID infection.

>>17416347
Too bad no ones gonna openly admit it

>>17416415
>used
when was the last time they had a collab with 7 povs?

>>17416475
I do.

>>17416519
Mario Kart tourney.

>>17415908
I enjoy these numbers
The closer they get to HoloEN numbers the more fun I will have shitposting

>>17416423
where?

>>17416397
Amount of PoVs shouldn't matter when we talk about combined CCV in a full branch collab, though, unless you are trying to argue that a significant amount of viewers would only watch specific liver and wouldn't even give anyone else a look if said liver isn't around

>>17416637
>unless you are trying to argue that a significant amount of viewers would only watch specific liver and wouldn't even give anyone else a look if said liver isn't around
but that happens

>>17416637
>unless you are trying to argue that a significant amount of viewers would only watch specific liver and wouldn't even give anyone else a look if said liver isn't around
if any of the males stopstreaming none of the girls are getting 5k boost.

HoloEn bros..

>>17416734
What?

>>17416727
That's true because their don't share their audience. The girls alone got higher combined CCV compared to their previous record as well, though

>>17416760
>october

>>17416552
so how much ccv and povs did the mk tournament get.
Also what time.

>>17416727
They would get some boost though. Girls that have the guys on their stream when its only their POV get a fairly significant boost most of the time.

>>17416941
how much?

26,000 total, and over 10k for the girls

>>17416423
Made me look
>avg 5,894
>peak 9,347

>>17416638
in his head

>>17416982
Maybe about 2-3k? Elira has got to 5k a couple of times on one view streams with the guys in there when she is normally 2k and Nina can get to 3k+ like that when she is normally around 1k.

judging by the 3D live yesterday, I think gen 5 got lucky that Polka didn't become the leader like she is supposed to. Polka is much better at being the supporting role rather than the main one. She herself doesn't shine very bright but she can make others around her shine twice as bright.

>>17417088
elira is no stranger to 5k views on her streams.

>>17416347
take your meds retard

>>17417178
The hell, anon? Is talking about Niji numbers without shitting on them forbidden now? What happened to giving credit where it's due?

>>17417049
Poor Petra not even meeting 1000.

between the shitposters, converts, CCV bullshit and the chinese antis shilling nijien this place is becoming worse by the day

>>17417365

>>17417297
>credit where it's due
>midget numbers for even the highest viewed steam in the collab
Combined CCV is a cope at best and trying to divine market cap and long term swings is a good way to timeloop bullshit

>>17416347
They haven't and their viewership is still mostly garbage. This is coming off of their new outfits too which makes it all the more damning. Also of course their max is going to increase because there is more of them now.

>>17416734
they dont stream

>>17417297
Welcome to tribalfag central, where the worst of the holofaggots and nijiniggers hang out!

>>17417582
The max for the girls without the guys increased too though.

>>17417473
you telling me you actually enjoy the state of this place?

>>17417482
i dont think is a cope using combined ccv
BUT it has been show the branch can only growth its market by debuting more livers so it is kinda a skewed comparision.

>>17416347
>Girls hit 10k max
>OMG incline!!!
>realize it took 7 members to hit that 10k
Anon, if anything the girls are reclining. That is a bad combined max especially since 3 males are getting much much more than that.

>>17417618
Samefagchama..

>>17417664
lazu collab was 5k max yesterday.

>>17417664
There are 7 of them streaming you dimwitted idiot. No shit.

>>17417803
They couldn't break it regardless of how many of them were streaming a few months back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SYKE0iBHI
>get no SCs
>get no sponsorships
>buy $10k mic
Jesus, where are they hiding the money?

>>17417791
Doesn't count not an event

>>17417833
when was the last amongus collab?

>>17417365
YEAH!
>remember when /#/ was good?

>>17417833
They didn't even have 7 members before and only broke 10k combined once wave 3 debuted. Barely 10k combined with 7 POVs isn't anything good especially since just 3 male POVs are much higher in combined viewership. You can keep on huffing copium though and pretending the NijiEN girls aren't in a hopeless situation.

>>17417365
>Noooooo you can't discuss other numbers

>>17417864
HoloEN has sponsorships out the ass. What are you talking about.

>>17417864
SC is pocket money to them, she makes a shitton from the views ads/premium and no idea on her memberships, but her chat is pretty fast and still green

>>17418003
Fauna hasn't taken any of them. I mean Bae probably has some money to blow but Fauna?

>>17417881
This is their first. Oh.

>>17417944
>hopeless situation
I dunno I feel anyone who isn't being disingenous can admit they are doing fairly well for themselves even if their viewer numbers aren't huge? Pomu and Elira's kimono reveals made more money than the majority of the HoloEN kimonos with less than half the viewers of most of them.

>>17417944
I like the girls too but this collab and the viewership trends in general are really making me hate NijiEN in general. Males were a mistake and have destroyed the NijiEN magic. Please save them YAGOO.

>>17417864
ad revenue

>>17417864
>buy $10k mic
You mean tax write off.

>>17417864
People here consistently underestimate ad rev by an enormous amount. There's a reason a fair numbers of Holos don't give a shit about SCs.

>>17418203
She only averages 171,733 per video, baby numbers.

>>17417864
Fauna ASMR again at 3pm PST/5pm EST
Man... It's the middle of day here.

>>17417995
ofcourse you can, just talk about them without being a disingenous retard

>>17418260
Only 3 million views in 30 days. That's barely 100k per day.

>>17417864
I haven't checked recently, but Fauna got 3,598 members interacted with her streams (send SC, chat message, member-only message, register or upgraded membership) in Oct. That's at least 6,296$ before tax and after YT / Cover cuts - it should be higher realistically since there are silent members who never interacted with the stream too. Throws in her SC (~13k$ in Dec before any cut / tax) and a 10k$ mic is only around a month of income.

>>17418341
If you back-calculate using Shibuya Hal's numbers you get an ad revenue per 1000 views of between $2-$4 depending on how you estimate memberships. So 3 million views in a month is $6k to $12k *per month*. Maybe more if her audiences are in areas advertisers pay more for, such as American audiences instead of Japanese.