/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I love fucking this bear!

remember she's at least 30, maybe 35

JK Beatani

I love this fucking bear and happy bear is the best bear

Bea...

I've rarely hear sutter and hesitate as much about a personal anecdote, sounded weird a bit random

AGGIE IS UP
https://aggie.io/ary7jxdvb1
https://aggie.io/ary7jxdvb1

>>17369927
WHERE IS BEATANI LOVER I HAVE A QUESTION

>>17370101
>ESL please understand
but will you really believe it?

Would you miss Beatani if she was gone?

I wonder if you can figure out when Ame is on the rag while playing this game

eurodads...

>>17370258
There is no need for countless affection posts for the 15021 time, Beatani won't really believe it anyways.

>>17370101
>>17370257
Maybe, I just thought she didn't know what to say.
"I often bring my phone into the bath and I... I... I keep browing... the internet... to... get... meaningfless information.... while taking a bas..."
Maybe something embarassing!

>>17370333
the trips say no they wouldn't miss you bear

>>17370258
of course, but there is nothing we can do about it, the day she wants to leave, she will.

>>17370258
Absence makes the heart grow fonder

>>17370342
MY 35 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TOUCHES HERSELF THINKING OF DADS LET'S FUCKING GO

who tf is beatani

>>17370258
No idea, since it won't happen I don't need to think about it.

>>17370459
my cute, skilled, and hard working 25 (35) year old daughter!

lately she makes longer streams I wonder why?

>>17370459
Chihiro's kichigai sister

>>17370459
Chihiro's sister

>>17370544
normal streams been over 3 hours for a while
this is a return stream
on a sunday
4 hours, or even 6 i wouldnt be surprised

>>17370544
least streams so longer

I miss summer

>>17370142
Sweet honey angel

>>17370476
>since it won't happen
wdhmbt

Alright. She's streaming that menhera game so I'm finally watching the bear. That's quite an accent. You guys sure that ain't Chinese?

>>17370786
we know she's chinese we just fuck around with her. it's like a running gag

>>17370258
Yes but I can't do anything about it

>>17370786
yes, she is half chinese, her father was a chinese immigrant who collected garbage.

>>17370776
It's copium

>>17370899
>>17370851
Damn I've got a good ear.

>>17370899
I can't remember about her mom, wasn't she half zainichi korean half mexican?

bros...?

>>17370533
I thought she was still only 19(20(25(30)))

>>17371095
don't believe her lies daddo chama, she's just coping.

I WILL nade nade this bear

>>17371035
yeah her name was Maria Lee Park Martinez

>>17371059
son?

>>17371241
And she had the rear end to live up to her name

this game is not so bad I was expecting something worse

why don't bitches like this understand that some people watch them to escape, and don't want to end up being reminded of their failure to form normal relationships

>>17371524
don't complain or she will do it more

>>17371524
because she wants to watch you squirm. same desu

>>17371433
I regret what I said

>>17371433
good timing

This is nothing compared to some of the shit from before. This bear has gotten weak.

>beatani's a virgin

It's over.

alright Bea, talk about all the stuff you've done with your boyfriends

it should be easy not to doxx them and people want to tell me about their personal lives all the time so why not do it too?

Dads truly are the most cucked fanbase

>>17371684
lmao good one

Bea could say she is or isn't and I wouldn't believe it either way.

>>17371586
keep in mind I was talking about Kangel, not Bea

>>17371668
yeah, too fast rpg was much worse

>>17371596
>same desu
what

>>17371850
It's Gura

>>17371902
kek

>>17371785
too fast rpg was only bad for the retarded goslings that have since gone off to act schizo over kiki/pippa, the real yab was the deleted lococycle stream

you know you want to see it

>>17371744
Well asidef from me, so it doesn't bother me.

>>17372005
Chumdads rise up

>>17372002
really? I was half asleep, you mean the 1st or 2nd

I need a cutter gf so bad.

>>17371785
it was a joke but she tried really hard to rile viewers up and hurt them. the goal behind it is probably the right way to measure if it was worse or not
now she was only being ironic

>>17372047

>>17372002
the edited vods also had a lot of information.

>>17372141
ahahah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXdDbX8Glgs

>>17372150
what

>>17372146
soon

>>17372002
>the real yab was the deleted lococycle stream
I watched all the lococycle streams and cant remember anything yabai

There was a deleted LocoCycle stream?

>>17372098
>>17372258
it was a guerilla stream, you had to be there

>>17372355
ogey

>>17372258
Same, I thnk he's making things jup to troll

Be honest with me /yah/.
Does it bother you that she has a boyfriend?

>>17372355
I have watched all her gorilla streams since Im a neet

>>17372355
You aren't fooling anyone

>>17372434
yeah but not that one

>>17372418
No but I can't say why.

>>17372418
depends on who it is

>>17372418
Honestly it would. If a streamer stays silent or it's none of your business that's fine, but acting like a virgin or lonely for pity points to milk more money is pretty shitty.

>>17372418
No but because it's me

>>17372418
I won't lie to you I don't mind that she has had a boyfriend in the past but if she had one I think she is just using us

she was obviously drunk and high on that stream, must have just come home from an office nomikai

it was kinda awkward, she got annoyed at Pablochama dying or something so she started mocking his accent and played mariachi music on a loop while chanting "build that wall! build that wall!" for like 30 minutes

>>17372418
no, I only hope that he's a good fit for her

>>17372418
already dropped her just checking in to shitpost a bit

>>17372418
no but I am also not a subhuman menhera paypig loser

>>17370018
I see this pattern play out a lot. Even famous vtubers people think are zoomers are actually about the age of the people who give them akasupas. In general people expected a much younger audience, but I think this is because the people watching vtubers got into miku and vocaloid (proto-vtubing, in a way) or letsplayers around the same time and were in the same age group plus or minus 8 years, so you end up with these people in what was a broad age group of teenagers and 20-somethings in 2008 who are now late-20s/early-40s, stuck wondering where the time went.

Anyway.

>>17372418
Yes because she presented herself as someone "relatable" to the viewers. Otherwise it would've been completely fine.

>>17372485
Give us a list of okay and not okay

>>17372506
yes I remember she was making fun of the spic dads while telling them poor people

>>17372418
I don't believe a word she says

I don't want to think about it, I just want to escape for a while I DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT DON'T MAKE ME THINK ABOUT IT

>>17372005
>beatani's an ESL
>gura's a JSL

>30 viewers dropped

>>17372682
its 3:30am please let me go to bed

>>17372682
all me

>>17372418
why can she get mad at other vtubers for the same reasons while i have to nade nade her when she does it? fuck that

>>17372736
She an hero'd Ame just for you

>>17372418
It would bother me if any of the menheras I watch were actually happy in their walking lives.

>>17372588
>>17372506
Yes but the wall part is completely made up.

half the posts in this thread don't make any fucking sense to me, do I have brain damage

>>17372926
Yes but the posts are also confusing

>>17372506
Don't you talk about me you son of a bitch.

Im seeing new faces in chat including a lost jap and a seanigger whos tryig to backseat

>>17372926
dont get a stroke daddochama…

>>17372926
tabun maybe

>>17373039
>eudads dying in real time

>>17373039
nice

>>17373027
the lost jap is also backseating, kek

WHO /03:44/ HERE

>>17372418
This assumes that our daughter can contain her menhera long enough to actually have a relationship with someone.

>>17373143
I could totally see her having at least a few boyfriends

they might not stay around long, especially if she wasn't comfortable with seggs, but she could probably get them

How does sex work in this game? If you're in the same place why do you need to use messenger?

>>17372512
You can rest assured about that, I think.

When's the last time she gave a countdown?

>>17373300
kurochan is gumi!

>>17373280
there is no sex going on

>>17373280
p-chan is fake and she's actually masturbating all day

>>17372674
>>17372497
I see though this game literally directly adressed to the topic so it was bound to happen today.

>>17372497
>If a streamer stays silent or it's none of your business that's fine
If you have a boyfriend, you're unfit to be a vtuber. It's like someone with extreme criminal background being a police officer.

>>17373408
People who are cops often would be convicts otherwise.

>>17373300
I certainly hope so she deserves to be happy

>>17372418
no not really

>>17372497
This exactly, and I don't care about what others think about it.

>>17373123
Present and past 40h awake... at this point better see the end.

>>17372588
Bea stop posting paws during your stream

>>17373587
North Korea NTR?

>>17373587
based blind dad

>>17372418
No it doesnt, im not in a relationship with pixels on a screen

We are about 8 months away from kangel from having a baby

>>17373460
likewise, people who are vtubers often would have boyfriends

I like when streamers pretend to have cancer for donations too.

>>17373726
Yes I agree

>>17373732
>scamming saviorfags
pretty based

>>17373775
Pretty shit and a good way to get a knife in your chest

If she has a boyfriend I wish she'd tell us. Not because I care but because I want goslings to have their little breakdown and fuck off already.

she's going to read this thread and see the reactions

>>17373732
wasn't one of bea's favorite vtubers a man who pretended to be mute?

>>17373869
Who is the biggest gosling? I don't even know any... anymore. Unless you count Beatani Lover. But I think he would stay

>>17373408
this

she should just post proof, but she likes the copium

>>17373868
it's okay dad you're not alone, everyone falls for the saviorbait at least once
>>17373879
and she'll use the reactions to finetune her next shitpost

reminder that paypigs are not human and there is nothing wrong with exploiting them

>>17373879
she's going to read this and try to remember the deleted lococycle stream

>>17373869
I'm surprised she hasn't told someone something like that and it leaked it.

>>17373943
beatani lover is gone

>>17374046
it actually happened but it went over everyone's noses.

>>17373943
T*ch* would be my guess

daddochamas I have ass cancer, please donate to my gofundme

>>17374046
Her and Seep probably laugh about it in the group DM

>>17374005
this recipe....

>>17374046
They would just call the leak fake. Or maybe one of the past leaks was real but they called it fake already.

>>17374046
She wouldn't say it to someone who would leak it

Is this game supposed to make you feel gross?

>>17374085
do you mean the twitter posts of the inner circle dads?

>>17373408
I can't tell if this is a parody of real.
You're unfit maybe for Hololive type, but for indies, of course not. Many vtubers are artists/performers first and not surrogate girlfriend.
I really hate GFE personally but if people are happy with it and the vtuber is clear about it then sure, d'ont apply that to everyone however.
See Tamaki for example who is very successful, open about the person behind the model, and even announced her marriage

>>17374005
that bagel dip looks disgu-

>estradiol

why do people do this, is this like coming out for troons?

How do you think she'll react when she gets to that part and realizes she isn't Real

>>17374208
Also a "boy"

>>17374208
Tamaki's seiyuu plays a boy, it's different.

>>17374087
I don't like goslings, but justify your post.

>>17372497
Pretty much. Lying to exploit people is shitty. And I think in this case it crosses the line from "it's a lie to be entertaining" to "it's a lie to exploit people".

>>17374218
She's a mom I wanna belib

>>17374087
Don't think so

>>17373732
If they have cancer for donations, get donations, get cured, and then say they don't have cancer anymore and thus don't need donos for this, it's fine right?

>>17373408
If you are a boyfriend you are only unfit to market yourself as a GFEtuber. Unicorns are paying such girls money in exchange for them to be chaste and celibate. Them doing otherwise is a violation of the unwritten contract.

>>17374347
An old menopausal fujo

>>17374203
here in the threads over the past few months

I've never gotten the impression Bea is lying to people to exploit them
if anything she's brutally honest (except for personal stuff like her weight or age)

>>17374347
>estradiol
>Caltrate
one with cobwebs in her womb, I guess

>>17373869
H*nabi... rough day with Corpse whole idolfag stuff

>>17374046
I expected that someone would really leak something important after the new year, the only thing that happened was the secret DMs group.

>>17374380
That wouldn't be lying for donos, so yeah. It's pretty obvious she isn't a polar bear irl or whatever so that kind of lie is fine.

>>17374457
I don't even think he posts here anymore.

>>17374536
>>17370142

>>17374340
>>17374312
It's about making a character clearly to viewers that's not just "roommate but with a 2d avatar"
Tamaki isn't Norio and Norio isn't Tamaki.

>>17374536
I do

>>17374472
>It's pretty obvious she isn't a polar bear irl
wet furry smelly paws typed this post

>>17374318
>menhera
>yesman prime
>consistently gushes over her
>hates dads (sees them as competition)
>>17374352
give me the dad rrats

>>17374574
>It's about making a character clearly to viewers that's not just "roommate but with a 2d avatar"
Bea doesn't do this.

She does have a Facebook

>>17372418
it would bother me
I watch vtubers I don't watch whores

>>17374659
Go back to Discord retard. You say that while calling others menhera yesmen who see dads as competition. Pretty much projection.
Get rope.

>>17374666
>Bea is just a 2D avatar version of her roommate
dyrbi

let her finish the fucking game please

>>17374627
SNIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>17374005
Based, that looks nice.

do you guys think bea may have autism?

>>17374793
She's sleep edging Euros now

>>17374773
>dyrbi
Yes. She tells stories about her life as Bea. Just because she adds a bit of background for the avatar doesn't mean she's presenting herself as separate from Bea.

>>17374659
Actually protested in the chat when she did her schtick that she should stop and continue playing

>>17374885
nah

>>17374574
>not just "roommate but with a 2d avatar"
what an absolute cope

>>17374760
it's okay dad I understand that it can be hard to escape her grasp
>>17374932
clearly just a cover

>>17374659
Check her Twitter replies for the biggest yesman.

>>17374981
>>17374773
>>17374666
I didn't say anything about whether Beatani does this but when others do this it's not bad.

>>17374887
being dragged into sleep deprevation by bea haa... haa...
makes it so that you go mad and your only thoughts are about her haa... haa...

we are passed the 5 hours mark bros. it's only 2217 here, how are you holding up euros?

>>17375048
>417
what do you think

>>17375048
please refer to >>17375029
for my state right now

>>17375011
CC is a good pick too

PPH...

>>17375048
5 am
I'm fine, concerning over bea not sleeping instead

>>17374760
he's right though you probably like him because he makes good art but if you look at his trashposting he's not what you think

>>17374005
>Estradiol
based

>>17375158
E*oT---- is the purest romance you won't convince me otherwise.

>>17375158
Please get rid of your inferiority complex asap and you will stop trying to make others look bad in an anonymous thread.

>>17375225
I'm still taken back at just how gay that fic was

>>17375132
dunno why but he is replyfag sure but he doesnt seem gosling

>>17375252
cope

>>17375048
Literally just rejoined because my browser still hates YT streams for some reason and my sleep schedule is beyond turbofucked anyway

>>17375225
It's the cutest dadship honestly

>>17375252
>>17375225
>>17375312
I wish it was real but I don't think it is ngl.

Can't wait until she reads the million donations from pregnantdad

>>17374659
I'm looking at the reply chain and I would hate your ass too.

>>17375280
>depressed NEET
>constant attention whoring
>coomer

>>17375449
nta but you really like defending t*chi

namefags are the worst dads. Who cares about stupid namefags?

>>17375545
The entire general, apparently.

>>17375545
clearly dads do

I'm not sure if I would still be watching bea's streams if she had continued with the early act

He's just in love with menhera bear pls andastand, we all been here.

>>17375612
heh

>>17375652
I would but I would be mega gosling

>>17375652
current bear > old bear and anyone who says otherwise is a turbo faggot

this game is boringer than I thought it would be

>>17375652
old bear > current bear and anyone who says otherwise is a turbo faggot

>>17375738
different and maybe more sustainable but not better

bear > not bear and anyone who says otherwise is a turbo faggot

>>17374893
>>17374574
Ehhhh she talks about her life often as tamaki too... It's impossibles to play up completely as a steamer, it was possible before with scripted VODs but nowadays... Your personal life always ends upà part of the content.

>>17375738
old bear > current bear

>>17375764
>>17375855

>>17375881
no, you made her worse

>>17375881
wrong. doesn't mean i don't love current bea too

>>17375903
go back to your holo-daycare for your bland escapism

>>17375958
now I'm conflicted...

>she will keep going

was this bear's longest stream? I can't remember....

>>17376320
New Year
Crash

There's literally a game called paws with a polar bear on the logo

>>17376336
ah right I should've excluded the marathon stream

>>17376366
there's a Beatani on the logo too!!!!!11

THIS BITCH IS DERAILING THE ENDING

>>17376320
Imagine how the chair smells...

>>17376406
*streams
I have brain damage
>>17376452
sasuga....
>>17376476
I'm conceptualizing

>>17376452
europe dads on xp hill watch

>>17376406
Other than those yes

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxFlMMKb1SmD9Mr1pY8w6Y9BTuaSxxae1X

>>17375652
Same but mostly because of the early presence of too many holobronies, not all bad but the mentality found in many places in /vt/ would have been too heavy.

men make the best women.

Bea's path to Hiroyuki is through Nyalra

Hiroshimoot is a useless faggot that lets the site rot for >muh advertising.

Outsider here. I didn't know Beatani utilizes YT's playback feature. These are definitely useful for JP reps.

>>17376969
>playback feature
what do you mean?

>>17376969
Beatani's VODs are useful for more than just JP reps

>>17376969
Enjoy your stay, she's a based schizo jp chuuba with a great talent.
BEA LOVE

>>17377017
Where you can go back in the progress bar while the stream is still going.

HOLY FUCK END THE STREAM I WANT TO SLEEP

>>17376969
She often says the same sentence in jap and english too so that's useful.

what pets get along well with rabbits?

>excuse to stop reading pregnant dad

>>17377281
More rabbits

>>17377281
snakes

>>17377281
cats, they usually only fight with other cats.

>>17377281
champyon posting in the wrong tab... neck yourself

>>17377281
starving pitbulls

>>17377281
Meant to post in pyon?

kek

always funny to read the thread in that purgatory where a bunch of posts are responding to a deleted post but I can still see it

I could spot at least one polar bear on her desk.

>>17376969
https://streamable.com/1r9dlp

Does Bea really have a picture of herself as her desktop background? Based tabun maybe.

I'm reporting the VOD for nudity

>>17377652
My desktop wallpaper, lock screen, and phone wallpaper are all Beatani

>>17377678
It won't make dads forget, damage is already done.

RATE THE STREAM
NO CORNER, ONLY FUWATANI

>>17377652
clearly did it for the vid she actually uses a slideshow of all her fan art

RATE IT

>>17377775
FUCK YOU

kino...

>>17377775
She got you there premature dad

>>17377802
Ruined by that fluffy whore/10

>>17377802
your baits don't work on me Bea, I am too schizo for that/10

>>17377775
>>17377802
I LOVE MY MENHERA DAUGHTER/10

>>17377802
love forever/10

>>17377775
>>17377802
cover was kino / 10
stream was good / 10

>>17377802
Fuwa HATE

>>17377802
Bea love/10

>>17377775
>>17377802
at least the cover was good / 10

I thought this was going to be a short stream

Alright, it's been nice shitposting here.
I'm never watching this bear again.

>>17378314
beabea hope you enjoy the next stream

Thanks Bea for the stream.
I'm unsubscribing btw.

>>17378314
same, fuck this cheating bitch

>17378314
>17378356
>The classic 1:01 difference
I advice to wait about 15-30 sec more to make it more natural

>>17378535

>>17378314
I will only watch her again if it's on her couple's channel, and in that case it will only be for her boyfriend's content and I will try my best to ignore whenever she speaks or does anything

>>17370157
AGGIE
https://aggie.io/ary7jxdvb1
https://aggie.io/ary7jxdvb1

So not only Annie is a pedophile but hes also a fag? Many such cases actually

>>17378582
>Bea giving you an emotionless handjob with a gloved hand...

>>17378731
holy fuck

>>17378723
Wow who knew?
so surprising that he’s been ostracized from everywhere!

>>17378535
nta but I'm quitting and unsubscribing too
posting with dads is fun though so I'm gonna stay in the threads

>>17378731
UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>17378723
also a groomer

>>17378860
based

>>17378731
i am painfully erect at what i just created now

>>17378723
Also loves Twitch, Discord grooming and Lumi so basically annoying

>>17378723
>>17378838
I wish discord never happened so I could live in blissful ignorance of how much of niggers and fags many viewers are.

>>17378723
you forgot cuckposter

>>17379014
Have you considered not being a bigot?

>>17378860
painfully based
>>17378972
He loves his small (G)FE pandering chuubas simple as

Watching the MV again, there's literally porn and pregnant Babytani on it.

what did bea say today that we don't already know?

>>17379127
don't worry about it.

>>17379045
Nigger

I remember this day I thought she would follow us again after a few days, this and father's day are the end of the early bear
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/6591821

I stopped watching like 1-2 hours ago, the fuck happened

>>17379127
Nothing aside from the tulpa story.

>>17379045
nigger

>>17379127
the age slip up? idk

I want bea to make music like
https://youtu.be/A9LLV3C6Bkg

beatani's
tits

>>17379977

>>17379977
tits?
what tits?

>>17380014
Indeed

I missed this beautiful bear

>>17380131
She'll be gone this time next year so enjoy every moment you have together.

>>17380249
Is that a threat?

>>17379127
Confirmed that she wasn't a virgin, but I think most of us already assumed that to be the case.

>>17380296
Not just that, confirmed she's getting railed daily.

>>17380296
>he believed that
she is 100% virgin

>>17379977
peropero

>>17380298
She said it was her last year on XP hill herself

Bea is gyaru mom, Chihiro is her daughter and being sent to xp hill means Chihiro put her in an old folks home

>>17380410
Totally isn't, not that it matters.

>>17380831
Finally a creative rrat

>>17380887
why it doesn't matter?

Time to see how delusional dads really are https://poal.me/5sc8v7

How can she be virgin if we have sex every week?

>>17381009
A couple guys when she was drunk to see if she liked it (she didn't)

2 bandmates + AR + Sex-san

Annie going off on one as usual

>>17375423
>>17375423
it's just my drunk nonsense lol. Honestly i cant remember half of my shit. I think it is about prasing best gurl chichir

>>17381009
>16 votes
>53 posters
Where'd everyone go?

>>17381640
Sleep

>>17381640
Im dming athena right now.

Who the fuck is Annie?

>>17381675
Also no more coke

>>17381009
She has probably fooled around with a cousin or something but she's still a virgin.

>>17381717
Me.

>>17381717
A disgusting grey. Don't bother learning their names.

>>17381009
if you unironically believe she ever had sex, you have never talked to a real girl

Do you think Beatani has a big juicy fat butt?

>>17382134
no.

But will ask her

>6 votes for virgin
how do you guys do it?
i want to believe too

I stopped believing her act that she doesn't give a damn about us, at least she appreciates us if you remember the early bear never behaved so comfortable with us, and I also think she enjoys at least a little of our presence in the streams if she wanted to, she would have gotten rid of us a long time ago

>>17382134
That's a nice butt you got there, mind handing over the source?

>>17382134
No but hopefully she keeps drinking beer and eating mochi

>>17382436
She likes dads a little but without the money it wouldn't be worth her trouble to stream. That goes for most vtubers of course.

>>17382436
She doesn't appreciate you; she appreciates the money you give her. Useless dads may as well not exist to her even if they've been here from the beginning.

>>17382436
Having any viewers is much better than being a 2view. But she would prefer if her viewers weren't dads.

>>17382759
Don't be so bitter, she's a human after all and even as gold digger bicchi I'm sure she sometimes enjoy the OC and stuff dads say.
But if we died she wouldn't care, that's just pragmatic, we are her fans and strangers from the internet.

>>17382947
Do you think she would be happier with the japanese viewers she always wanted?

The answer is >5 and, deep down, you all know it.

Why do you all have to be so negative?

>>17381717
drawgroomer (in)famous for being kicked out of a bunch of chuuba communities for being a blatant groomer

>>17383208
they are trying to outbant the bear and trying to act cool

>>17383176
Yeah eigo is a pain

>>17382436
seeing the way she reacted to the times in the game when Ame was talking about supporting the fans gave me hope.
I belieb

>>17383208
It's kind of difficult to be positive after that stream.

>>17383208
Because it's all we know how to do

I SERIOUSLY CAN'T BELIEVE BEATANI LOVER IS FUCKING GONE!!!!!! THIS IS THE EXTENT OF HER LOVE??????? PATHETIC!!!!1!1!!!!1!!1!!!!!!!!

I heard people fart like 20 times on average while sleeping, so Bea has probably done it a couple of times already.

>>17383435
anon, I don't know if you know this or not but she's REGULARLY farting throughout the day EVERY day

>>17383570
imagine the tofu smell brothers,.

Matane dads

>>17383773
Goodbye...