/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>18k
Go Aki go!

>>17338684

>>17338716

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dLHc40dhc4

Obligatory.

That's a big lineup, especially for a Polka 3D.

>>17338898

before this thread gets too retarded

>>17338929
Arguably a better lineup than Pekora's birthday

>>17338953
>JP confirmed for culled too
Thanks anon!

>>17338929
>Aqua
I kneel Polka

>>17338929
>no suzy for a shiraken part
why comet

>>17338929
Aqutan will give her a huge buff especially fresh outta her concert

>>17338986

>>17338953
Aki got her waiting room numbers back in 6 mins, a sign of CCVID

>>17339001
She is on break but I guess she can always prerecorded it sometime before her break.

>>17338684

Aki of all people deserves big Ark numbers, tribalfags neck yourselves

>>17339042
pretty much the more they struggle to beat the waiting room, the worse the cull is.

silver medal for silver fox

>>17339181
*Contingent on there actually be a waiting room for a decent amount of time and no a guerilla '5 minutes until stream's deal yea. Even then, it's not even bloody consistent, that's the most annoying part with 'its the users that are culled' nonsense of CCVID. I hate Susan and her fuckery.

>Aki making the list since March last year (excluding 3DLive, Outfits, or Relays)
Impressive 18k+ and inclining, even considering the return buff.
That said, here's a list of the usual HoloJP midgets last 10k streams that aren't events (live, outfits, relays)
>Sora: Sportsfes collab with Azki (Nov 4)
>Azki: 500k utawaku (Sep 5)
>Roboco: 800k Rap totsu (Jan 26)
>Matsuri: Cake Bash Holox collab (Dec 26)
>Haato: H-review w/ Marine (Jan 15)
>Aki: Ark return stream (Today)
>Mel: ASMR w/ Marine (Nov 30)
>Choco: ChocoSubaLuna (Jan 26)
>Luna: BDSP Elite Four (Dec 4)
>Polka: UmaMusume gacha w/ Flare (Jan 1)
Aki's previous 10k+ was in the Alcoholic Collab with Lamy&Noel back on 22nd March last year

Aki is so precious she deserves this

FBK shattered the Pokemon Legends record, right? 24k seems like a lot.

It's past midnight. What won gold today?

>>17339330
Im so happy for her bros..

>>17339678
OkayuShuba endurance clear of SM64 (32k peak).

>9,846 watching now

Is YT cucking Vox from hitting 10k?
He keeps hovering around 9.8-9.9k.

>>17339791
>Reddit Duck needs a collab to get gold
Miko got it on her own the other day

>>17339791
>>17339678
FBK and Chloe for silver and bronze

>>17339678
1. Suba-Okayu
2. FBK
3. Chloe
4. Subaru
5. Ui?

>>17339817
Nobody cares. All of his views are Chinese bots anyway. This has been proven for a couple days now.

Aki returned at such a perfect time. She has found new Ark ojisans.

>>17339817
>9998
Probably.

>>17339825
Take them.

>>17339678
Wait for another 30min since the sites close the day at 01.00AM JST

>>17339860
Yes anon, proven by the voices in your head

>>17339860
Not Chinese bots Anon, just thirsty Chinese women with White Fever.

>>17339900
How new? We had basically 2 entire threads breaking the entire situation down. Its obvious what is happening but if you want to keep huffing that copium and ignoring the obvious I don't know what to tell you.

>>17339895
Nothing that's currently on is going to gain enough viewers to break 30k Anon, and it's past midnight.

>>17339876
I hope for no more bad luck for her from this point on bro..

>>17339895
Unless Fubuki hits 32k nothing's gonna change. Maybe Aki can get a bronze with 22k.

Sorry Vox, 10k is for grownups

>>17339330
I hope she will stop being a sub 5k streamer after this

>>17339817
>9998
Sorry Vox, 10k is for grown ups

>>17339945
I know. But that's just how them sites work

>>17339938
One schizo posting the same shit he pulled from his ass over and over again is not proof anonchama

>>17339945
It's about getting accurate peaks and positions anon.

But yeah, gold is secure. It was secure all day.

>>17340001
I... I should've turned off my adblock

>>17340001
Honorary 10k.

>>17340001
>male wife
They aren't even hiding it

* ongoing top 5 currently airing streams *
This is an image that if you sent even 4 months back in time anons in this very thread would call "fake and gay"

>>17340094
Anon, he's been kept under 10k for like 45 minutes.

It's not your fault.

>>17340043
His proof is from a blog post written by a schizo who declares that Hololive is done for every single month.

>>17340120
He has his analytics. He knows what his SCs say. Behavior speaks many words.

>>17339817
He'll hit it when Ike stops streaming.

>>17340148
If you took this a few minutes ago, it would have also had Moona on 6th.

What a pleasant day.

>>17340120
Why would they? If I had the fujo market I would do the same for the numbers and the money, I would run an operation that not even that virtual brother Anycolor used to run would match in boldness

>>17340148
This is fake and gay desu

>less viewers than treerat on her huge collab that she hyped for weeks with one of twitch's top vtubers
Holy shit deadcucks, it's over. She's washed up after her drugfueled tantrum.

>>17340248
Aka going full Manwhore.
I don't fault the bloke, the amount of money he's seeing come in from this is substantial. It's an underserved market, and they're tapping it HARD. The question is of course, how long can they hold on?

>>17340309
They can hold on as long as the market exists. I have no reason to believe it's going away. They know how their bread is buttered, makes me wonder why the other guys just don't go 100% into East Asian times.

>>17340309
Based on Kuzuha, Kanae, Fuwa and other NijiJP blokes that are not half as bold and ended up securing the same market, unless he fucks up and crosses a line (an even bigger danger in teh western market) he found himself a cash cow

Friend....

What happened?

>>17340309
>how long can they hold on
Of course. But at this point, hes guaranteed to be a 3-5k streamer for the rest of his time with a strong paypig following

>>17340383
>makes me wonder why the other guys just don't
I'll say this without any hint of irony: it takes talent to be a manwhore, not everybody is cut for it.
It's the same thing for the girls, it takes talent to be flirty and imply sexual interest without being a vulgar thot.

Being vtubers they don't have to be blessed with genetic beauty meaning they need to rely exclusively on their communication capability.

Whoever bogged fubuki fuck you

>>17340433
Natural decline

>>17340148
Fake and gay

>>17340433
Bad slot

>>17340433
It's what happens when. You stream twice in one day. Youtube only pushes the latest video in the algo, but the GTA VOD is RIP due to DMCA claim (no strike). So that bully VOD is doomed to very slow growth unless someone clips something really good out of it and can get people to give it a click and watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTP5M0ZgjGo

Sunday's Gold secured.

wait, what happened to foobs? im watching korosan

>>17340589
Nah.. this is silver, Polka guaranteed gold

>>17340602
game crashed

>>17340589
>Aqua
>APEX
No. It's unearned golds.

>>17340602
Game crashed and she lost all her progress so she ragequit

>>17340589
That's going to beat Polka's live isnt it...

>>17340589
>>17338929
So it's going to be
Aqua Idol in Apex
vs
Aqua Idol in Polka's Bday

>>17340626
Wait she didn't save at all? Is there no autosave????

>>17340621
>>17340626
damn, that sucks, did she say if she was gonna redo everything off camera or something

>>17340621
>>17340626
Game freak is indee kampanee pureeze andastando

Gura GTA still blocked but get purged 7k.
I don't understand how Susan works with the view

>>17340666
>>17340694
>did she say if she was gonna redo everything off camera or something
Hopefully not, for the numbers

>>17340666
There is. Makes me wonder if she disabled it.

>>17340628
>That's going to beat Polka's live isnt it...
No,not with guests

Can we all agree Aqua is the new Queen

>>17340626
>Most watched stream of your new game
>Game crashes and streamer lost all progress
>Ragequits

Are you ok Game Freak?

>>17340716
They don't really have that many developers and are not given that much support. You can fault them for not hiring a fleet of rock star developers but you can't fault the ones working there already.

>>17340723
This might be one of Gura's greatest gift to /#/, feast yourself nerd.

>>17340248
>Why would they
You know that being a whore is looked down upon in society right? Eventually it will all catch up to him.

>>17340767
I kinda want to say yes but can't really take you seriously with that pic

>>17340852
Lol give us the analytics for her average view time then I'll lick her feet every day

>>17340868
But Vox isn't a person, it's just a cartoon character with a voice actor.

>>17340868
That's the beauty of being behind an avatar. Belle Delphine can't get a job without being looked down but Projekt Melody can

Glad Pekoschizo is on break, otherwise he would shit up the thread all day every day with her recent numbers

>>17340767
Fuck off and kill yourself stupid frogposter

Numberfags,
Will there be a Vtuber stream that exceeds Coco graduation numbers?

>>17340941
I'd lick her feet every day even without that desu

>>17341046
Twappi, hit me harder.

>>17340723
>israel
what the fuck susan

>>17340941
Btfo, Gura's feet is mine.

>>17341049
Graduate someone more important to Hololive than Coco easy. There's like 2 or 3 of them

>>17341049
Vox's 3D debut in 2024.

>>17341072
No, you need drama to build up gradually before graduation. Coco would never have gotten those numbers without the Yabs.

>>17340941
Get in the line.

Gura gave us a lot of data about CCVid yesterday:
-what her GTA VOD looks like without any VOD watchers having access to it, just raw CCV to VOD conversion (about 310k for 4 hours, 14.840k average and 17k peak, which is pretty ridiculous)
>her poll that got 6k votes in less than a minutes
>her bully VOD being dead in the water to the algorithm because she streamer again afterwards, despite that stream not even being available
A lot of information, wish she held the poll longer though.

>>17341049
Sora's graduation next year

>>17340723
Kek

>>17341101
Drama? Which Holo would be able to cause a yab as big as China yab? Maybe Pekora?

>>17341112
People don't watch Sora anon.

>>17340723
That is either views being thrown out or being consolidated by the system (as in tab outs being crunched into 1 view instead of multiple or something). I remember one indie showing their analytics and how their CCV went up after processing, their total VOD views went down but the average 'time watched by viewers' went up. So either view consolidation or very low quality 'low watched time' views thrown out.

>>17340967
Roa disagreed and (presumably, according to her) has been trying to convince the court otherwise too

>>17341049
Eventually, maybe not in the next 5 years though
>>17341072
It's not that simple, even if another huge name were to graduate Coco had the perfect storm of a) being the first graduation stream of the main branch and b) the circumstances behind her, political drama bringing in the normalfags and being featured on the Taiwanese news

>>17341152
Also before anyone tell me it won't happen, I just have a feeling Pekora CAN cause a big yab, not that she will

>>17341109
>310k for 4 hours, 14.840k average and 17k peak, which is pretty ridiculous
The math adds up if the average watch time is 11.5 minutes.

>>17341152
Ayame, going public with her private thoughts on KPop and koreans in general, and scheduling a 5 hours longs endurance stream where she does nothing but say the five hundred thousand different insulting ways she has to describe Koreans
>and also superchat reading

>>17341049
Holo/Niji EN Minecraft roleplay

>>17341197
Only time will tell. Predicting a graduation is near impossible since there are too many variables

>>17341285
Ike ends,
Vox 10K.

>>17340158
Ike finished and he made it to 10k afterwards. It is their fault.

>>17341190
If JP court rules in her favor does that mean we have precedent to treat vtubers as people in their own right? Sounds weird. I've always just thought of them as improve actors with a avatar.

>>17341317
Grownup anon BTFO!

>>17341019
There's no point. The low numbers for dragon quest have been highlighted and the copes laid out.

>>17339964
>>17340001
Thank you for your service

>>17341353
Its the Japanese. I would be EXTREMELY (though pleasantly, to be honest) surprised if they rule in favor of treating vtubers as people

>>17341353
They treat Miku as real as your everyday big name celeb. So i wouldnt be surprise

Aki is currently holding the most watched ongoing vtuber stream

Daily Chloe update: Sakamata Chloe now has $387,843 in total superchats and just 50 days after her monetization is the 58th most superchatted vtuber ever. Today she surpassed
>Roboco
>Kenmochi Toya

>>17341467
GO GO AKIROSÈ!!!

>>17341472
>Roboco
>Kenmochi Toya
4years worth of SC beaten by a month old newbie...

>>17341406
Pekora number have been quite boring these days. Other Holos can easily lap her no problem
Feel like she running out of buff games to play

>>17341467
I kneel

>>17341190
>Roa disagreed and (presumably, according to her) has been trying to convince the court otherwise too
That's not what Roa is arguing. She is arguing that the "roommate" has standing when filing a suit about slander done to the character she portrays because the slander is not being directed to the character but to the roommate.

To put it in holoEN terms, if the slander was
>Calli doesn't care about her genmates
she would have no stand, but if the slander is
>Calli is sleeping with Connor
she has stand because the accusation is about the behaviour of the VA, not the character

>>17341420
>>17341451
Two kind of people

>>17341472
>Toya
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! MY GENERAL!

>>17341615
???
It still can be argued that the accuser was talking about calli the character sleeping with connor in some fanfic lore kinda way.
That shit is too weak to use as a premise

>>17341548
She hasn't played Minecraft for weeks

>>17341472
If only that ASMR stream she did yesterday wasn't mengen, she'd almost certainly be at 400k if Playboard could count those supas

>HoloID dead

kek

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>32,694: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,788: Fubuki (Hololive)
>21,392: Chloe (Hololive)
>21,211: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,560: Pekora (Hololive)
>19,259: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>18,144: Aki (Hololive)
>17,021: Gura (Hololive)
>16,025: Botan (Hololive)
>15,198: Korone (Hololive)
>14,898: Flare (Hololive)
>14,720: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>14,613: Suo Sango (Nijisanji)
>14,364: Mumei (Hololive)
>14,324: Miko (Hololive)
>14,050: Laplus (Hololive)
>13,678: Shion (Hololive)
>13,401: Gatchman (Indie)
>12,454: Gura (Hololive)
>12,441: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,261: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,462: Kamito (Indie)
>10,395: Vox (Nijisanji)
>10,386: Saegusa Akina (Nijisanji)
>10,356: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,030: Kanata (Hololive)

>>17341988
Full hololive top 10 sweep baby!!!

>>17341988
ui-mama ruined an all holo top 10!

>nijibros - b.....but chemistry!

>>17341988
A top 11 sweep for Hololive. Impressive.

>>17341988
>Kamito

>>17341988
>11,261: Luca (Nijisanji)
>10,395: Vox (Nijisanji)
Luxiem the new sliver boys?

>>17341988
18 holos
5 nijis
3 indies

>>17341988
>19,259: Shigure Ui (Indie)
This still counts as a holo top10 sweep right?

>>17341779
>It still can be argued that the accuser was talking about calli the character sleeping with connor in some fanfic lore kinda way.
True but the VA would have stand to bring the lawsuit up.

Roa fight is not one of merit of the lawsuit but if she even has stand to sue in a court of law.
Konosuba's Megumin VA doesn't have a stand to sue on behalf of Megumin for slander directed at her, for obvious reasons.

But if the accusation is
>Konosuba's Megumin and Re:Zero's Emilia are whores and worst girls, just look at her VA sleeping around with half the anime industry
she would have standing to sue.

>>17342055
the king is off, they just continue to cannibalize king's audience. Go back to EN timeslot luxiem fags

>>17342085
Why would NijiJP stream in EN timeslots?

>>17342080
Welp it's up to how good her lawyer as twisted the words and terms, in the end. Who is she up against anyway? Narukami?

>>17342022
>>17342067
>>17341988 (me)
>19,259: Shigure Ui (HoloMom)
There i fix it

If lazulight costumes relay later get over 10k. Would that mean they are inclining or reclining?

who is vox? i am holo only and saw him in my feed. i didn't know male en could hit those numbers. is he the largest right now? Is his fanbase 99% female? what's the appeal?

>>17342238
incline

Arceus is such a piece of shit lol, really hoping my favourites who unfortunately picked it up either drop it or speedrun it in a couple of endurance streams

>>17342238
they picked a shit timeslot, should've gone SEA prime time. But Pomu and Elira should've get at least 10k

>>17342238
Not even the right question, which should be
>if the Lazulight fails to beat even today's Luca basic bitch stream that got 11,261 what are they even doing to their lives

>>17342238
>If lazulight costumes relay later get over 10k. Would that mean they are inclining or reclining?
Luxiem will raid them.
20K

>>17342296 (me)
* for the girls

>>17342265
You are not fooling anyone schizo-kun...

>>17342238
Getting less than 10k means doing worse than nijimales normal streams, that would be beyond embarassing.

>>17342265
Vox and Mysta are EN Chronoir, a pair of charming sexually overt (but tasteful) male streamers pulling the strings of the hearts of mostly chinese and SEA thirsty fujos

>>17342238
I'm okay with giving a view, but I ain't gonna watch the whole stream. I'll just tune in when they've showed half their body and into the head.

>>17342321
This

>>17342318
im begging god to make my oshi drop it, her stream today straight up got like 1k more on a random game than her first arceus stream

>>17342238
I would be very very surprised if they get 10k. I guess Elira has a tiny shot at 10k but probably not. And Pomu and Finana will get like 4k maybe 5k, Finana probably slightly more than Pomu just based on her being later in the relay

>>17341239
>The math adds u-
It almost never does with Gura. I don't know why this timeloop always happens this way. You don't even have to look at the year's worth of bullshit or the fact that she has 2 vods with less than 300k views over 9 months, you don't even have to pull out folders of data, we literally just saw this week her keep up with Aqua's apex stream that had 10k higher avg and a 39k peak, with absolute peak tourism/churn with fucking Vegeta hair as her graph, literally gaining 6-7k people every time round starts. And what made it even worse was that through processing, Gura was performing better than Aqua and ultimately in the end passed her in views.

Pekora got 15.7/20.5 today and is sitting at 277k after a 6:30hr stream. Subaru has Yakuza vods that are a week old that were longer than Gura's GTA vod and were even better than Pekora's numbers that has yet to hit 300k or just barely hit 300k (a 5+ hr long vod.) Miko had an ark stream 10 days ago that had 21k/31k that's sitting at 377k, which is only 70k more than a fucking 14k/17k Gura vod that has had ZERO PEOPLE watching the vod.

Like, I don't get what more needs to be said. That's the 4 best performers in holo JP at this very moment. This isn't just some random people being picked out; These are the 4 staple Holos of this past week/2 weeks that are performing EXCEPTIONALLY well, and yet Gura's numbers are still beating them, whether it's with watched vods, vods processing or a fucking flagged vod that has yet to get anyone to watch it apart from those who tuned in.

>>17342401
It's a relay anyway, but an hour long. I'm pretty sure they can get above 10k with holofags giving a visit.

>>17342320
The girls' audience isnt SEA, only the boys have that

Number bros, can we save AkiRose this time and avoid a repeat of 2020?

>>17341849
I doubt even Minecraft would be a vuff game for her rn, she have no plans, no events coming up and would just wandering aimlessly and sure as hell no one else would be accompany her since everyone is playing ARK now

The real question is, will picrel overlap?

>>17341981
sorry, we meant niji id

I'm scared of the Idea of Irys losing the ability to sing anymore and would be moved to Council as the 6th member, giving a streamer status. Wonder if they would go with the idea of getting another VSinger afterwards.

>>17342414
>also meds

>>17342320
The girls get shit views on SEA timeslots, all of their best streams have been NA times. There is almost zero overlap in the male and female NijiEN viewership, can just pretend they are different companies, luxiem fans has no reason to watch lazulight outfit reveal, they probably dont even know who lazulight are

>>17342067
No. Ui is more honorary Niji than Holo

Sorry Nene, 10k is for grownups

>>17342586
Ui is clearly honorary VSPO

>>17341988
>kamito again

>>17342414
Some people will simply never accept the facts no matter how much proof there is. Some will do it for shitposting purposes, some because they're just mentally ill.

Goddamn it why did i desided to scroll to the bottom of the twitch... All those 1 viewer vtubers streaming for noone, and some are even doing singing or talking streams talking to themselves... Its so depressing it made me want to kill myself.

>>17342414
>VODcope again
Jesus Christ, I wish seaniggers were banned from this board

>>17342586
I didn't see any niji on her 3D debut.

>>17342656
You cant save them anon

>>17342554
what's their highest CCV during NA times? If Mysta's ringfit stream got 11k on a very very late NA timeslot, I dunno how the girls could go over that, especially if they overlapped with the shark

>>17341988
Hololive 18
Nijisanji 8

9-1 hololive top ten which is a bit better than usual. They got a medal sweep but the peak of the medal streams are very low, a 21k bronze is a bad day.

>>17342656
not everyone can't be saved, sadly

>>17341988
>Ui breaking up the Holo top10
rape correction is needed

>>17342414
If the watch time per viewer is 11. minutes then that CCV average is accurate. I'm not reading your cope novel, Pikamee said her average watch time was 11 minutes.

>>17342656
Don't feel too bad for them, just think of it as a "it's just how things are" moment. Almost all streamers have been through it and then they climb their way up

>>17342238
No female NijiEN stream outside of debut has EVER had 10k CCV, not even Selen's birthday that had every other NijiEN collabing with her. 10k is insanely high for the NijiEN girls, there is no way any of lazulight gets it today. The first female NijiEN to cross 10k will probably be Selen's new outfit in a few months, but even that is not guaranteed. Pomu and Finana will probably get like 4k and Elira maybe 6-7k

>>17342554
I mean that's pretty much classic Nijisanji. Not only will male and female streamers always get different audiences, but eventually there's so many nijis in a branch you'd have to be a schizo to know all of them

>>17342600
HERO

>>17342511
Have a bad dream anon?

>>17342600
thanks anon

>>17341988
vrabi caught a higher peak for Sango where she's over Yashiro.

Outfit reveals and their peaks man.

>>17342600
i don't know how the fuck you do it, can i get the lottery numbers

>>17342600
thank you anon

>>17341988
>Kamito
(You) ain't slick tally anon

>>17341239
>>17342414
10 minutes avg watch time is absurd. Check any twitch stream and they all have 40+ minutes of avg watch time, including miko watchalongs and the few minecraft streams shes done there as well.
Youtube calculated avg watch time used to be around those 40 minutes as well, up until the new bullshit of december 2020.
Picture is graphs of calculated watch times, with the big arrow showing when the new bug started to apply. Quality is not very good but it is all I got.

>>17342862
I use mado as the "authoritative" source for Niji numbers when second guessing live-ranking ,and Holostats for Hololive.

In a few weeks I may start using vrabi but piyo soured me about trusting nip anons and their recently made sites

>>17342913
Youtube watch time probably takes into account tab viewing, which makes it as bullshit as CCV. Ah well, dumb to argue that Pikamee's watch time applies to everyone anyway.

>>17342586
kek

Man... maririn is really raking in them easy mill views from her shorts huh

>>17342983
This one is even mostly recycled from her previous short but with a different end. Peak effortless numberfagging, i kneel.

>>17342913
Assume that viewer behaviour hasn't changed significantly since 2020 and watch time is 40 minutes still. What ccv makes that work with Guras GTA stream vod?

>>17341988
>NijiHomos doing lowest denomonator coomer content during peak hours
>Still soundly beaten by HoloEN
Soon they are going to have to display some kind of personality beyond "hurrrrrr gay we like dicks".

>>17343047
dont forget the funni discord chats kek

>>17342964
thats calculated watch time, not the one from analytics.
calc avg watch time = total stream time * (avg ccv)/(total views after stream end)
yes the calculation fucks up because ccv got fucked. And now we can only use total views on vod after several hours, because it takes too fucking long to process everyone who was initially culled/flagged/spamview/whatever you want to call them, but as a result some late vod watchers are also included to mess the calculation up as well.

>>17343046
He's arguing it got 32.29k CCV average.

>>17342586

>>17342238
>Pomu's highest CCV: 6170 (collab)
>Elira's highest CCV: 5746
>Finana's highest CCV: 4567
10k would be a massive step up..
On the other hand, this is the first new NijiEN outfits so who know how their fanbase is when it comes to them, maybe they will have turn up almost like a debut, but I would not bet on that

>>17342238
Steep incline. If they get more than 5k a piece it is a massive triumph.

>>17343132
That....sounds too high.
Sigh, I hate Youtube, regardless of what the actual CCV is. All this fucking around on the numbers front.

>>17343132
Trying to get exact math like 32.29k average is silly, but let's go with the premise here:
-we all accept 2020 cull happened (and it hit JP too, don't fucking start this loop, I don't care)
-we all know what Gura in particular's numbers were before, about 40k peaks per stream
-based on VODs, we do see a small recline in everyone's numbers
With that in mind, is arguing that Gura actually gets 30k on a GTA stream that far fetched? Doesn't seem so to me.

has anyone from this thread started getting actual 2 views on their recommended lately? it's happening to me and it's weird
just got this one for example and im the same anon that posted that screenshot with the 200 view 2 hr stream for the menhera chuuba game

>>17342817
NijiEN males will raid them,10K easy.

>>17343200
yeah too high.. around 25k maybe, with that 6k poll in under a minute. Even I missed the poll

>>17343225
30k peak isn't that far fetched, 30k average is.

>>17343046
im gonna use the gta stream because it seems to be blocked to any late vod watcher.
calc avg watch time = total stream time * (avg ccv)/(total views after stream end)
40 minutes = 232 minutes * (avg ccv/314,000 views) [susan later culled it to 306k vod]
avg ccv = 54k
peak unknown, can't estimate from there, but if you assume it is the same proportion we see on the culled, thats 54*(17.1/14.8) = 63.6k ccv

>>17342817
Counterpoint: birthdays do not get similar numbers to outfit reveals for holos either. Even 3d birthdays, which this won't be. 10k is not impossible, nor is it so noteworthy it requires us to debate it desu

>>17343255
It may be youtube's ol 'here's a random thing that you MIGHT be interested in based on your existing views'. Perhaps they're trying to tweak it so that small channels get a bit more of a chance against the torrent of clip channels and existing big chubbas.

>>17343264
It's like 6 hours too late for Luxiem viewers.

>>17343313
It really isn't, it's well within precull numbers, especially for a buff game.

>>17343339
so the number would be 3.5x higher, fuck youtube..

So, I thought up of a good idea for the anons in this thread but ofc it's a stupid idea.

There's a lot of 2 view indie vtubers out there. Find one and groom them to be 3 views. Don't straight up tell them that you're from this thread. Be friends, provide proper advices, see them every once in a while. Once they've reached 3 view status, report on what you did for them to make them go from 2 view to 3 view, maybe 4 digits. Just be one of the 13 knights that watched Sora debut 4 years ago or be one of the tens that watched Suisei debut. A foolish attempt, but I could spend 5 min of my time to check up on an indie when he/she is on.

>>17343534
kys

>>17343534
What does this grooming have to do with numbers?

>>17343534
That's stupid anon. It really is, it's just going to end up heartbreak for the chubbas in question every fucking time 4chan gets involved. No.

>>17343534
after all the horror stories i've read on the grooming threads you'll never make me touch a 2view man

>>17343534
this is not the grooming general

>>17343344
10k is certainly possible since it's the first NijiEN outfit but of course, it's a kimono type new years kind of outfit. That's a little bit too late. I'll watched it and judge its quality.

>>17343534
Is this some advanced form of cuckoldry?
>find a chuuba you like
>get her to find a thousand people that will displace any attention she can give to you
>???
>PROFIT!

>>17342371
And Japanese Fujos, who were repressed and starved for such content.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXAKvIMwoxQ

>>17343467
>>17343339
>>17342913
according to the gura graph her watch time was roughly hovering 20 to 40 minutes, so make it 30 minutes average instead.
That makes it 40k ccv average (not peak).

>>17343579
Groom her so you can get their analytics once she makes it big. Use her analytics to get a better understanding of what we should look for and have a dataset to compare displayed numbers to. I don't give a hot damn about the indie in question, just their analytics. I wish I could just have a few weeks of numbers with a reasonably sized vtuber on youtube I could do something.

>>17343200
You say that but it really isn't too far fetched. With how youtube is it's impossible to tell who has how much viewers right now and shit, but lets just say we're arguing whether Gura is getting 30k average or something very close to that in a buff game: Take a look at Pekora's Pokemon streams last month. She could do fuck all and 40k+ would still tune into it, even when we KNOW outside of numbers it's a boring fucking game that was done 50x over. The point is more so that if you can believe Pekora getting 30k avg with 44k peaks for pokemon, you can see Gura hitting at LEAST a 30k average on a GTA stream somewhere. 44k peak? You can argue against that sure, but 30k doesn't seem too out of line, especially when she was hitting 25k+ with DBD . .

>>17343747
Him and/or her. I just want the real numbers.

>>17343747
Kek the utter madness.
So what happens once you know someone's analytics? What's the next step in your master plan? You convince the shitposters in these threads to calculate everyone's CCV and popularity based on one chuba's analytics?
All this effort to just get you hit with
>lmao I consulted the snake skin sheddings and X niji/holo is just reclining

>>17343534
anon, you just described the plot of My Fair Lady, but adapted to a "modern setting".

Go make your Adapted Screenplay Oscar winning movie and leave us be.

>>17343795
yea, we would only learn what one example of culling was. But there are always people affected much less or much more, as well see on the current ccv graphs.

>>17343795
Share them directly with thread after the fact and I won't be held accountable for the leak since I the accounts I used to interact with the vtuber and her fanbase will be deleted.

>>17343768
So what, after a whole fucking year of debates, we wind right back at what we noticed in December 2020? That Gura's numbers are cut by almost 50%?

>>17343631
Wait, manjisanji jp actually do the bro experience?
Stuff like this really puts in perspective when they said most of Kuzuha's viewers are actually male.

>>17344095
Check it yourself. Notice there aren't many with more girls than guys. Keep in mind Mysta has a 75% woman audience.

>>17343534
Word-of-Mouth is better than direct shilling. You're better off grooming their ecosystem than the actual vtuber.

>>17343042
Make me think if Pekora is actually trying too hard

>>17343264
>NijiEN males will raid them,10K easy
What do you mean by this? They dont even get 10k themselves during NA times, and during collabs with the NijiEN females luxiem gets way lower CCV than they get on solo streams or luxiem collabs. So why would 10k taiwanese and japanese women go to a stream where luxiem isnt even on. If all the luxiem shill the outfit streams like crazy on Twitter, lazulight might get a couple of hundreds more viewers, not several k more

2.5k$ get for Nene

>>17344162
The ones with almost not girl viewers. Many of these are male.

>>17343612
>kimono type new years kind of outfit
What does this mean, this lazulight outfit isnt kimonos and it has nothing to do with new years. It has apparently been in works since august

>>17344286
What do girls have against Fumi?

>>17340613
>>17340765
This does not slip!!!!!
I repeat. This does not slip!!!!!!

>>17340628
first I'm hearing of Polka's live

This Suisei/Miko cover is doing insanely well. MiComet is money bros.

Crazy that Miko found another blue woman so quickly.

>>17344311
Have you visited their hashtags yet? Most of the predictions are kimonos, meant for New Year's I assume.

>>17344572
I mean all the blue woman of Hololive are extremely successful. Miko can pick like any of them and it would be cash money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWPGnkKE2k&ab_channel=GawrGuraCh.hololive-EN

Wait this is actually (kind of) interesting. Gura almost never puts frames up this early in advance. Almost always it's a 2hr frame. I wonder if this will have any effect on more people tuning in

>>17343163
Their fanbase is most Holo EN watchers, they'll turn up for an outfit in exactly the same way they do for Holos. The real question is will JP tourists or the Luxiem fanbase also turn up out of idle curiosity or not. Also the possibility that Holo EN tourists wander over to at least watch the reveal part. If it's just the core Niji EN(Female) fanbase Pomu and Finana will get like 5-6k and Elira 7K.

>>17344735
Recently it seems the opposite, CCVid has hit her so hard she can barely get good numbers on buff games.
But yes, earlier frames= better, no need to test that one, most of her subs probably never checks her twitter schedule. And it will be a Kronii collab, which does well for Gura.

>>17344810
I don't knoe how many they will get but I'm praying they are massive flops. I want to see less than 1,000.

>KNEEL TO ROSEMI!
KNEEL NOW!

>>17344908
>Kneel to a midget
You are in the wrong thread

>>17344572
It's not doing that well. King did better. Niji covers do better. Suisei does better without Miko. They. Need. The. Stop. Collabing.

>>17344962
Aight, Both Sukoya and Fuwa released their covers today. Let's see how much views a music liver can get.

>>17344962
Calm down schizo

>>17344962
Anon, its outpacing Suisei's Phony cover. Its doing insane numbers.

>>17344572
migo...

>>17344962
>They.
>Need.
>The.
>Stop.
>Collabing.

>>17344862
All three get over 1k on normal streams so that won't happen. A flop would be like, 3K.

>>17345051
It's been almost a week and it still isn't near 1 million.

>>17344962
It's ok, you can stop. PekoMiko is no more and you have to accept it

>>17345125
>almost a week
Are you retarded

>>17345026
Fuwa got near 200k in 6hours. Fujos I kneel.

>>17345156
Released on the 26th. It's already the 30th.

>>17345228
Pekomikofag can't count

>>17345228
>Premiered Jan 27, 2022
You are an utter MORON.

So I don't know if anybody posted this but somebody did a list if the top 50 vtuber originals of all time. Its crazy how much Hololive dominates this list. Their push to put out original music is certainly paying off.

https://youtu.be/MyxzuSWxkxY

>>17345344
>How much Hololive dominates the list
To be fair the majority of that is just Mori and Suisei, lol.

Hmmm I just notice, Pekora 2nd original is not on YouTube, only Spotify
Probably because no MV but I honestly don’t know how these thing work

>>17342942
Fair enough, I didn't check Mado.

It's got lower numbers for both, but Yashiro's on top there. Looks like the sample time is bigger than vrabi's.

>Yashiro 14,719
>Sango 14,613

>>17344362
Reminds them of their mom too much.

>>17345489
Same with the MiKorone original. Its been on Spotify for like a month but no youtube upload in sight.

How does outfit relays usually go with viewership. The first one is usually the lowest right? Is it usually just a straight incline from chuuba to chuuba, is there a chance that Finana gets more viewers than Elira because she is last, even though Elira is the more popular vtuber?

>>17345489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOMj4x2VVg

>>17345573
That's probably how they designed it. Clever, but still not getting above 5k.

>>17345573
Your numbers get buffed as time goes on but if you put Gura first and Kiara last, Kiara won't get more than Gura. I think, probably, Elira will get more than Finana, but it'll be close. They should both get more than Pomu, 5 PM EST is kind of dogshit.

>>17344735
Nice! Lazu outfit reveal wouldn't overlap with Gura's stream. Considerate shark???

>>17345344
Kek

>>17345674
This. It's important you either go
Lowest to Highest for maximum numbers at the end
Or Mid tier to high tier near the end to Low tier at the end for maximum spread
Never ever go High to Low

>>17345626
Yeah I figured its that vid

>>17345680
That's just Gura usual timeslot, i doubt she even knows lazulight is having new outfits or what lazulight even is.

>>17345680
Nah, NijiEN stopped being dumbasses and queue events near Gura's timeslot. They found out from HoloEN that they could just stream before Gura since those slots were used for outfit reveals before.

>>17345712
If we're counting topics, a lot of them get a bump in their numbers. marine's just an outlier.

>>17345344
>Another top Originals list that doesn't acknowledge Can You Do the hololive? Beyond the Stage ver.
>16,845,522 views

It isn't counted as a cover of Watame's original either, and it's clearly a song, not a short.
Just sits in this limbo.

>>17345680
Its more like Niji finally learned to stay the fuck out of the shark killing fields. Gura's just streaming in her usual time slot, I have no doubt she knows what NijiEN is, but 0 chance she keeps up with their events or streams.

>>17345712
Where these uploaded at the same time?

>>17345051
Is it outpacing Getcha though?

>>17345812
16m isn't even a head spinner and it really isn't a song. It's a cast show off set to music.

>click one Gura older VOD to check something
>Youtube goes: oh you want old Gura vods? Gotcha, let me start recommending them in bulk
Fucking algo magic. Now if Susan would just fix the CCV shit

>>17345881
>16m isn't even a head spinner
it would be 3rd on the all time list, ahead of Ai's song.

>>17345680
Even Ina avoided it? She usually streams 5pm NA right?

>>17345881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPjUzNcxFHk

>>17345881
>16m isn't even a head spinner

>>17345940
I just do a "do not recommend me this channel" with Gura.
>>17345289
Okay, 3 days but it isn't that good.

Matsuri's really been enjoying this dead of night - early morning time frame.
She's probably sleeping early to get to it intentionally, because she's not super tired and quiet like in her 2020 late night MC and Mahjong streams.

What's with this shitty ass timeslot and why did the majority chose 1pm JST?

I wonder if Pekora going to jump on the Arceus train next week…She definitely will but let’s see when

>>17345991
>Even Ina avoided it
No one is avoiding jack shit anon. And for "even" Ina to avoid it, someone else had to have avoided it.

>>17344962
nouseagi bro... just kys, end this suffer already

>>17346097
>why did EN viewers choose 8PM PST
Do you listen to yourself sometimes anon?

>>17346098
She kinda lost the hype train already, first stream can probably still do ok but numbers are already dropping like a rock for second streams.

how do we save holo council?

>>17346184
why don't you save THIS
*cums on you*

>>17346158
Shame, I was hoping she can find some more buff game, tired of seeing ARK everyday.

>>17346122
Come on anon fag. I just want to believe they're friends bts. I've never seen Ina stream this late

>>17346184
Stream at better times. Stop being afraid to overlap streams with Myth.

>>17346268
Tell them ignore anything Myth has ever told them and YOLO it.

>>17346097
It's the best time slot to avoid clashing with Gura but still stream in EN primetime

>>17345812
My guess is that the people making these lists consider it a cover since it isn't the original version of that song. One list recently did a top Hololive original list and the original version was included while the Beyond the Stage version wasn't, lol.

>>17346049
Motherfucker, it hasn't even been a full 3 days you numberrotted idiot.
It's been two days + ~7 hours!

>>17345344
>28 of the top 50
Kinda low... They only get a silver too...
Hololive as a brand isn't a big deal, musicwise.

>>17346251
She's still not feeling 100% and has to go to the doc at the time she usually streams today.

>>17346328
>Only silver
>Against a song that not only went Viral on Tiktok, but also has a good 8 month lead on it
Anon, you're letting big numbers cloud your judgement and understanding of context.

>>17345712
The pirated version of the pirate song is doing better, the irony

>>17346158

>>17346184
play minecraft, unironically

>>17346715
With who? The JP already jumped to ARK

>>17346251
I dont think Ina has ever interacted with a niji in any way at all. The only one in hololive that have taken NijiEN outfits into account at all would be Kiara, if she usually streamed that time.

>>17346788 (me)
>have
would*

>>17346715
>Bunkaronii
>Council Civil War
>Gura motivated
>Ame teaching the newbies
>Mori streaming 8 times a week.
>Irys still had her voice

Those were good times, weren't they?

>>17341988

>January 2022 Golds

1 - 39,292 - Chloe (Hololive)
2 - 48,192 - Korone (Hololive)
3 - 59,730 - Pekora (Hololive)
4 - 17,622 - Kanata (Hololive)
5 - 19,789 - Toya (Nijisanji)
6 - 20,631 - Yashiro (Nijisanji)
7 - 38,541 - Towa (Hololive)
8 - 43,154 - Nijisanji Main Channel
9 - 50,982 - Gura (Hololive)
10 - 21,182 - Gura (Hololive)
11 - 35,413 - Pekora (Hololive)
12 - 136,102 - Pekora (Hololive)
13 - 88,491 - Shibuya Hal (Merise)
14 - 34,677 - Subaru (Hololive)
15 - 29,689 - Mel (Hololive)
16 - 89,594 - Shigure Ui (Indie)
17 - 34,206 - Yorumi Rena (Nijisanji)
18 - 39,721 - Pekora (Hololive)
19 - 36,391 - Pekora (Hololive)
20 - 22,436 - Mito (Nijisanji)
21 - 29,571 - Suisei (Hololive)
22 - 97,996 - Rushia (Hololive)
23 - 38,502 - Aqua (Hololive)
24 - 41,741 - Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
25 - 31,917 - Pekora (Hololive)
26 - 41,614 - Aqua (Hololive)
27 - 26,444 - Miko (Hololive)
28 - 31,149 - Aqua (Hololive)
29 - 32,694 - Subaru (Hololive)

Hololive: 21
Nijisanji: 6
Others: 2

>>17347162
why are you back?
Just to start another timeloop?

>>17347262

?

>>17346785
They don't need JP? Just council hanging out in MC will bring big numbers

>>17347370
Well then that is up to them I guess

talk about MC, jesas

>>17347718
Hololive MC can never hope to achieve this number

>>17347718
If only the kids watching Gura were as loyal.

Rikka's cover passed 100k in around 5 days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pELP7sBBIJU

This is really fast for a Holostars song not featuring any of the Holo girls.

>>17343727
Which was entirely within her reach pre-2020 cull esp for a buff game.
Hell she regularly got 40k averages on even kusoge like PROTEIN FOR MUSCLE.

>>17347718
What keeps holo or nijien from doing minecraft roleplay

>>17348037
their cringe enhibitors

>>17348037
Remember Kronii/Fauna conflict?

>>17347718
top tier shill mr pig

>>17348246
Kronii's depression ended that arc. Even IRyS couldn't save it.

Who won today's EN/NIJIJP gold?

>>17338929
Is Towa in everything now?

>>17348677
I recommended they put her in everything. You're welcome.

It's barely been a day but the Stars HoloGrafitti equivalent is now the 5th most watched video on the Holostars channel, at 158k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1204Knoxgfg&t=26s

>>17348677
Towa has the cheapest 3D appearance fee compared to the costly Ayame or Shion.

>>17348677
Like I said before, Towa is liked by quite literally everyone. She organize big events, hang out with everyone, even Pekora like her

>>17347312
This took way too long.
Hopefully it can bring closure though.

>>17349290
I like Migo lewds so Miko.

>>17347162
based

>>17347718
>Reminder on
How do we bully these faggots out of this thread?

I just finished doing some numbers regarding Gura's VOD numbers
Ludwig has 64% of Gura's average watch time, aka, apparently, chumbuds have almost DOUBLE the retention time on stream which is obviously not right
Posting the numbers on the next thread, I'm using Ludwig's leaked official analytics and the formula is 97% accurate

Anycolor meant for NijiEN to attract attention to NijiJP. NijiEN is now stealing fujos from NijiJP. This is very amusing to me. I guess changing their name to Anycolor was a good move since they're very international.

>>17338929
I'm surprised that no other gen5 show up
that should be enough for gold right?
what was her last 3d number?

>>17349611
If this gonna be another GURA ACTUALLLY GOT 60K ON GTA copes then no one cares.

>>17349355
Fuck i forgot about that part.
wanted to include a panel about the real winners being Hinato lewd enjoyers.

>>17349611 (me)
>>17349666
using the same ratios, I'm coming up with a 22.8k CCV on the previous GTA stream

>>17349714
I need that methodology, seems low.

>>17349626
Did you really want to know?

I guess they were alight after the 3D debut fatigue.

>>17349748
I did it by hand, doing something in paint rn

>>17349828
No wonder the clown got depressed.

>>17349714
>>17349611
How are you calculating this?


Also, keep in mind that Ludwig appears to have quite a few viewers who only come from Twitch for him.
They might distort the numbers as opposed to Hololive fans who jump around on the same platform between members at times..

>>17348782
It also brought 19k new subs since the announcement.