/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

It's over, buff GTA streams no more

It looks like so long as you still have the link to Gura's stream, you can still see the views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXJfqW5lB74

I refreshed it several times and youtube is still processing the views because they kept going up. This is the last version. According to >>17323679, no one can watch this, it's flagged everywhere.

So what we have here, if the stream stays flagged, is a rare opportunity to see how much the CCV transferred into VOD views by checking this link once it's been 24 hours and it's finished processing.

Currently, we see that it's 259k without having finished processing, for a stream that peaked at 17k and lasted 4 hours.

Yesterday's superchats, apologies for the late post

>>17324801
Well. That's unfortunate, I wonder which song specifically triggered it. I do hope we do get to see her finish the game at least.

>>17324801
If that's the final VOD, that's impressive. A channel pumping out contents almost every day that has an average views of 250-500k is really good for sponsors and ads.

That's comparable to most big YT creators.

Soon

>>17324871
>did Ike do something special yesterday?

>>17324941
Yeah he opened memberships

>>17324939
>8k max
As a Lazulight fan, I’m serious

>>17324801
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1487290330307252224
She just went to sleep too so it's going to be a while before it gets resolved.
IIRC Rushia's 3D live and NJU 2022 got claimed too and both came back so there's a chance.

>>17324838
259k this soon for a 17k peak is very damn high, but it's also Gura and GTA so if it doesn't get to 400k, it'll be weird.

By ENfags logic, dose this means that pekora have higher viewership then subaru???

>>17324838
Isn't this like the perfect tool to interpolate CCV and VOD views? views are not increasing because no one in the world can watch it so every change is 100% from the pool if views from the people that watched it live and are being verified

>>17324941
Free talk (already free money stream) + opening membership

>>17324968
Ehh? I don’t understand why people throw money even during membership

>>17324985
>8k max
>As a Lazulight fan, I’m serious
20K with males raid

>>17324939
holoen gonna overlap?

>>17324923
It isn't the final VOD, we know youtube takes up to 24 hours to validate all the views generated by CCV. I just refreshed it again, 266k now.

Very unique opportunity to see CCV transfer into VOD numbers without any data pollution from people who start immediately watching the VOD. Well, mostly, because using the link you can still access it and presumably give it a "view" but I cant' see that counting for much.

Update: 368k, I'm too lazy to retake a screenshot. Access the link yourselves to check.

>>17325087
As always

>>17325087
>holoen gonna overlap?
ID3 announcement?

>>17325009
Yes? Don't you know Pekora was one of the hardest culled holos of 2020?

>>17325009
Would you shut the fuck up you absolute seething faggot? We mock the fucker who uses the live-VOD counts WHILE THE STREAMS ARE ONGOING. That's never been accurate for as long as YT's been mucking around with VOD processing times.

>>17325074
Fuwa got $30k for having his l2d updated and for winning an Apex tournament where he was carried, that his donors didn't even watch.
Kagami got $10k for getting Covid.
JP women have bottomless pockets when they feel like watching streams for once.

Are being big in SEA + Taiwan + China attractive for sponsors? I get HoloEN being sponsored since they have a significant viewership in NA, but I wonder if Luxiem can provide more values.

>>17325074
I never understood it that much either when people are already spending money to join membership but it's an event and an industry standard to throw SCs for it

>>17325087
More like Niji overlapping Holo again, just like how
Niji overlaps their own debuts and graduations.

>>17323898
Her 2020 karaoke peaks got 19-29k, with an average of 25k until december when the cull happened and it dropped to 7-15k with an average of around 10k.
She averaged 15-25k for solo minecraft till december, where again it got slashed to 5-11k.

And no you cant just use the average displayed on holo poi because she often mixed super reading into streams, which nuked the "average CCV" shown but if you actually check they where all constantly near peak till she went to supers.

>>17325235
They can shill chink mobile games

>>17325235
>Are being big in SEA + Taiwan + China attractive for sponsors?
>Is being big in the biggest population of the world attractive for sponsors?*
You know how Hololive gained traction when they were small right?

>>17324871
Only 4 JP chuubas in the top 12? Is that the fewest ever?

what the fuck is YT doing with Mumei's stream?

>>17325330
Different type of audience.

>>17324985
I respect that. But as another Lazulight fan, my bets are on 4.5-6k. Maybe 7k on Eliras given how shes the face of the wave.

kek, blocked in every single country, so no worries about VOD watchers contaminating the viewcount, its purely people who watched the stream live.

this trap/shota vtuber debuted only two weeks ago and already has 30k subscribers. chances of them becoming an actual name in the JP indies?

>>17325330
Yes, but is there any big chink game intertested in putting Luxiem into their games? Genshin is out since they don't think NijiEN is big enough.

>>17325532
Any other Gacha?

>>17325488
So her 300k+ VOD views came from 17k CCV in like 4 hours? Is that normal or greatly reduced?

>>17325523
A decent chance if nijiniggers don't run negative campaigns against him.

>>17325488
Gura denied us the poll numbers but gave us something even better.

>>17325532
Ehh not too sure about that. Though only time will tell. Mihoyo has already worked with Finana. They gave her a figure and an exclusive pre-stream for their new patch.

>>17325532
No way genshit would put other company in game.

>>17325611
Which gacha? There's no gacha big enough to bring such attention right now. FGO? Not collabing with outside their franchise. Genshin? Honkai? Niji is below Mihoyo's attention span right now.

So which gacha?

JESAS
don't be so harsh on Mumei, Susan, this is just a karaoke....

>>17325644
Mihoyo have done collabs before anon, it just doesn't have to be Genshin

I mean, they've done a collab with Eva, no less

>>17325532
Never expected Azurlane to have a Holo collab so they could start one themselves if popular enough. Probably some Arknights collab or something

>>17325715
Wtf

>>17325111
You mean 268k at the time ?

>>17325532
Any tencent or netease games

>>17325532
Probably not a big one.
The deals that Hololive and Nijisanji got to put their vtubers into games was a huge deal and if they do get a chance to do it again, they're going to put JK-gumi + Chronoir + Saku/Shiina in there first before Luxiem anyways.
Even HoloEN hasn't had the privilege to be in a game yet, unless you count Gura being in Groove Coaster.

Luxiem will get sponsorships, but we won't see any for months because this stuff takes time to negotiate, especially since NijiEN is much smaller than HoloEN.

I'm telling you all that HoloEN's CCV were affected by their chosen regions and all they need to do is change their region from Japan to nothing(Worldwide) or the US to pick up more viewers. It's weird that Luxiem gets their best numbers on the east and set their channel to Japan but gets shit numbers in NA/EU time. It's also weirder that all of HoloEN's channels were set to Japan even though they stream at a different timeslot. Bae/Irys/Calli can get some good as numbers streaming a JP timeslot, but they suck as in NA.

How to tell them to test this shit.

>>17325848
Groove coaster 100% counts
The one that might not count is Ame paladins

When will Nijisanji main branch integrate at least NijiEN males into their big promotion? When it comes to viewership, these guys are pretty high compared to upper mid tier Niji.

Hololive always goes out of their way to equally promote all branches yet Niji seems to be very insular.

>>17325965
How dare you disregard the world renown voice actress who did the announcer lines for Paladins?

>>17325959
>How to tell them to test this shit.
You can't, because they don't care about CCV.
If they're going to look back and see how well a stream/song did, they're going to look at VOD views/likes/comments anyways and not peak CCV/premiere numbers.

Also, I think Selen's is set to worldwide and she's getting culled pretty hard too.

>>17325111
Gura is a monster

>>17326084
Selen gets good numbers despite being set to worldwide for nijifemales and sometimes nijimales

>>17325613
Miko ARK from 11 days ago was similar length(4h 11m vs 3h 52m and has 378k views although its probably gained over 50k views from the VOD. Its CCV was 21k avg/31k peak, so if she gets anywhere close to that...

Guras stream is already at 290k views with 14k avg/17k peak.

>>17325959
>It's weird that Luxiem gets their best numbers on the east and set their channel to Japan but gets shit numbers in NA/EU time.
Because they have a preexisting fanbase in that region

>>17326084
I wonder if sometimes Cover is stupid for not caring for VODs.

>>17326084
>>17325959
Petra and Selen are both set to Worldwide and both get some degree of CCV fuckery.

>>17325992
Elira, the EN member that interacts with JP the most and the most subscribe until today, was included in a promotion with art of various livers shown wearing outfits they own IRL. Luxiem are still to new right now.

>>17325959
They cannot change region, the region must match wherever they get taxed, which is japan because all supers/memberships etc go to cover before being split to the talent.

Do Luxiem fujos not know how to make clips? Because after every stream, they get like so little clips.

>>17326279
That YT bulletin claims to only apply to the linked adsense account. I haven't tried fucking around with if YT needs the channel location and adsense to be the same but I suspect not.

>>17326266
Does she get a poster or big banner placed in front of a big mall in Japan? Even HoloID got not 1, not 2 but 6

>>17326249
This. They bleed viewers whenever Kuzuha streams

>>17326407
it does i am pretty sure.

these are the pics we have since the stream was blocked
>>17323340
>>17323877
>>17324801
>>17324838
and it's still being verified batches

>>17326348
they got clips on b2

>>17326465
So VOD verification time is 24-48 hours right ? or it's just 24?

>>17326348
Check bilibili

>>17326417
But they dont? What are you talking about? Wasnt this already disproven on here in the first month they were streaming?

>>17326279
It doesn't work like that, some of Niji KR are listed as Korea and others as Japan, Bora switched from Korea to Japan at one point despite not moving or changing organization

>>17326249
Do you have the one for their theme song?

>>17326557
well, if the VOD doesn't come back, we will know for sure
pretty sure it's not an "exact" thing,YT only said it was that interval so people don't complain at every hour
it must be inclining according to batches of unverified viewers accumulating throughout the stream

>>17326348
literally actually search. there's tons of clippers for luxiem on youtube.

>>17326912
>there's tons of clippers for luxi

>>17326252
They care about VoDs though? They don't care about CCV.

Gura VOD 303k

another Susan special

>>17327193
>28k to 18k

>>17325523
>trap
fuuuuucks... his rigging is so good tho...
https://twitter.com/r_snsm/status/1486459180324114436

>>17327193
Amazing job Susan.

>>17327157
I hope it says block for like 24hr.
It will be a good example of CCV culled for her

>>17327193
>28k to 17k to 25k within 30 minutes
Those curves are looking mighty fine, gurl

>>17327193
no, they were taking a 15 minutes break

>>17327193
Similar ti what happened to gura. Was it in the same time frame?

NijiEN sc update.

Pomu - $180k
Selen - $146k
Elira - $126k
Vox - $86k
Rosemi - $80k
Ike - 76k
Millie - $74k
Finana - $71k
Nina - 59k
Petra - 57k
Luca - 55k
Mysta - 54,2k
Enna - 42k
Reimu - 38k
Shu - 37k

NijiEN's behavior is pretty holo-lite, so I think they might pull good numbers for outfit reveals. I'm gonna guess they break 10k pretty easily.

>>17326105
Not really, she would be if she saves / carries other holos. She happens to have a favouring algorithm over other vtubers but can't do much with it because they only click on her recommended video

>>17327492
Oh, were they? That's less odd but still wacky to look at.

>>17327665
> pretty holo-lite
> is called very nijisanji and seeds by almost every jp viewer who watch them or their clips
amazing

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1487331902004424707
it's happening again

>>17309571
>Yakuza
is it really?

>>17325087

I think Gura might have planned to have her streams from today completely overlaping NijiEN new outfits but had the wrong date
Maybe everyone in EN planned to do the same but everyone got the wrong date (but the right hour), this scheduling never happens at this time-slot

>>17327851
take your meds

>>17325087
Why should they care about 2views ?

>>17325992
Nigga chill they've around for only a month ffs

>>17327861
if they streamed this tomorrow
>Gura bully overlaps Pomu
>Mori collab overlaps Elira
>both prev. streams would overlap Fianna
>Gura GTAV would overlap the full gen collab in the new outfits
instead, tomorrow you have nothing overlapping the outfits

Anyways, in other news

>>17327704
Lets be honest, everything is holo-lite in ENphere since Holo pioneered it's popularity. Same way how nijinigger claim every L2D chuuba as niji wanna be back then

>>17328003
video is already private so that is the limit already.

>>17328033
read
>>17324838
>>17325008

>>17324636

>>17328033
Anon...
Views are still growing, yt still processing

>>17324871
January superchats so far
>Rushia - $140,373
>Chloe - $103,822
>Koyori - $94,773
>Pekora - $77,092
>Ike - $72,472
>Vox - $71,087
>Iroha - $71,063
>Matsuri - $61,980
>Mori - $59,038
>kson - $57,087
>Nene - $56,630
>Lamy - $53,738
>Kanata - $52,189
>Towa - $51,875
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Subaru - $49,998
>Kiara - $47,684
>Miko - $46,451
>Watame - $43,091
>Mysta - $42,608
>Luca - $41,082
>Chihiro - $38,109
>Lui - $37,383
>Noel - $35,752
>Laplus - $34,316
>Luna - $34,174
>Gura - $33,227
>Okayu - $31,856
>Amelia - $30,473
>Shu - $30,231

>>17327714
Lmao
Here we go again.

>>17328003
which site is that?

>>17328151
>Ike - $72,472
>Vox - $71,087
>Mysta - $42,608
>Luca - $41,082
>Shu - $30,231
Holokeks…

>>17327714
Here we fucking go

>>17328003
I'm starting to get the feelike thzt her CCV average is close to 30k with peaks well above that.

>>17327704
Yeah, people who don't speak english are authorities.

NijiEN isn't too similar to Hololive but vtubing culture in the west dictates outfit reveals are special so NijiEN fans will consider it as such.

>>17327714
>https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1487331902004424707
She came back

>>17325959
>Bae/Irys/Calli can get some good as numbers streaming a JP timeslot, but they suck as in NA.
What are you talking about? IRyS' numbers during JP hours were always lower (not significantly lower, but still) than her EN numbers, and her NA / EN numbers were pretty good until she started taking breaks due to her throat and VSinger duty. The same applies to Calli (without the taking breaks part).
>>17327063
They definitely care about CCV, seeing that they asked for exactly that in their application form. It's not like they have to focus on one and only one metric.

>>17327714
Ugh.

>>17328438
Correct. What metrics and when to use them, as big events like concerts they'll care more about CCV, but for things that are meant to have long legs like sponsorship videos and normal streams, VOD views hold more weight.
Aka CONTEXT MATTERS.

>>17328438
>They definitely care about CCV, seeing that they asked for exactly that in their application form.
What application form are you referring to?

>>17328438
It's hard to gauge EN's numbers when they are overlapping with HoloJPs

>>17327714

>>17327714
let's see how many people she can lure in this time

Actual pekora numbers. NijiKoshien doko

While Mio has much more overlap today than yesterday, the ep 2 drops for this game are pretty ridiculous.

Nijisanji just got bitched the fuck out by Nose.
So we have Sumire, Noah, Hinano and now Nose dominating Nijisanji in just this week alone.
Nijisanji has really declined.

>>17328438
>They definitely care about CCV
In their own presentation that they pitch to advertisers they mention CCV once but mention VOD views many. many times. Only the voices in your head say Cover doesn't care about VOD views.

>>17328984
what the fuck? which stream is that? also, link to that ad

>>17329027
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGqcd8Ymn9U

>>17329011
The game is boring as shit to watch and there isn't much to bounce off of.

>>17327714
Have you all kneeled yet

>>17329017
This. VOD views are so much more important to sponsors, most especially for shill streams. Its a good thing if people are willing to watch a VOD of what is essentially a 1-hour ad when most of the time a 1-minute one gets skipped in 3 seconds before a video starts.

>>17327714
How do you even shiny hunt in Arceus, considering the totally different encounter system there?

>>17329289
You can fish, you just need to have progressed far enough to unlock it.

>>17329386
>You can fish

do you guys trust Fubuki?

>>17329398
you can boost the shiny rate significantly
with the dex boosts + shiny charm you can get it to 1/585, and if you get the other bonus it can go all the way to 1/128.

>>17328388
in the west? you mean everywhere?

>>17329428
On a lot of levels since she's shown her integrity when the situation didn't even call for it but it makes me wonder how much of that bold statement was to just calm people down in the moment. She's kinda in a bind, she can't leave Hololive without really hurting it. If she quit vtubing she'd have to take a staff position or else her friends would be damaged.
>>17329435
>1/128
What's the point then?

>>17329435
Given what you need to do to get the shiny charm, no way is she going out of her way to get that before fishing.
She's going to rush the third area, unlock fishing ASAP and then start pulling.

>>17327631
Shoe...

>>17329011
I feel this will be the shortest Pokemon arc for most Holos, and probably vtubers in general.
>Kiara and Fauna already said, while streaming Pokemon, they wanted to play other games instead.
>Reine will do side quests off-stream.
Outside the known Pokemon autists and jp it doesn't seem it will be a long arc...thank god.

>>17329668
Indeed, thank gods. The game's a snore to watch for the most part.

>>17329668
>Kiara and Fauna already said, while streaming Pokemon, they wanted to play other games instead.
Didn't Fauna literally say she likes the game and a lot and wants to keep playing it?
She did do a 5 hour stream today, which is rare and only reserved for Skyrim streams.

>>17329542
I think that with a talent as big and with as wide of a net as Fubuki there's no way that Hololive doesn't get hurt when she hangs em up, but if she gets a super amicable sendoff like Coco did then I don't think she'd need to stay around to quell people's worries. She could ride off into the sunset proud of what she's created.

So Mori's VOD views are higher than Ironmouse's despite the lower CCV but people don't watch twitch vods while they do check youtube vods but it's still only been 10hours.

I'd still say the CCV is nerfed on youtube.

>>17329832
I mean, Mori's VOD isn't even done processing and she got 15k likes in 2 hours, which is way above what she normally gets in 2 hours for 7k CCV.
I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being a 250k+ view VOD despite it being fucking Shadowverse.

>>17327631
is there a monthly breakdown for this data?

>>17329801
At the end of stream anon

damn, twitch numbers really are a joke

>>17329542
>She can't leave Hololive without really hurting it
Who says she has to leave? If she wants to pursue other opportunities she can always start an Ayame like schedule of doing 1 token stream every 2 months. That way she never has to leave but has basically no commitment to Hololive and can do other things. If they are ok with Ayame doing it why not Fubuki?

>>17329890
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-japan-monthly
Go nuts. There are non-vtuber channels but vtubers dominate supper chats.

>>17329929
Around 2 hours after the stream ended, Mori's already had 120k views.
Wish I took a screenshot so I don't look like I'm talking out of my ass.

>>17329894
https://youtu.be/y_2FG2zM4Mw?t=18798

>>17329956
Ayame is kind of an NPC that barely shows up in a game and Fubuki is part of the main party. Fubuki is like the #2(#1 in practice) brand ambassador. Certainly Cover would prefer your suggestion if it's between the reputation hit and that.

Moomers 1M.

>>17329929
We told you. And its more like youtube numbers are the joke they are so fucking nonsensical.
I would bet Mori's actual CCV was more like 12-15k, as that would fit the ratio of 8-12 views per CCV within a day after stream ends that mostly held true till the end of 2020.

>>17327714
FBKING!

>>17330366
nice.

>>17330366
nice.

Gura VOD seems to stop at 313k for now.
Pretty high for a 15k median with 17k peak.
Nice job Susan

>>17330580
It just confirms that EN is currently eating the short end of the cull stick, just like how JP was at the end of 2021. Pray that JP doesn't do a big relay or the entire JP vtuber scene suffers. Again.

>>17330366
Sorry to numberfagging but why Journey like a thousand years took like 2 weeks long to reach the million mark instead of A new start who did it in just one week if both have the new song buff

>>17330661
>Pray that JP doesn't do a big relay or the entire JP vtuber scene suffers. Again.
I genuinely don’t think it was Holo relay, but something FPS related. It fucked Kuzuha, Kanae, HSKW, Hal and VSPO before generalizing

>>17330696
Part of it has to do with what channel it's on (the HoloEN main channel is a kind of a debuff) and the other part is that it's not really that great of a song to listen to on repeat, so it won't get recommended nearly as much.

>>17330696
Mybe people simply enjoying a new start more. Official EN channel is also kind of a debuff and ochame kinou is still the song in that channel that is being pushed by the algo.

Suo Sango getting 15k is pretty high for an outfit reveal

>>17330718
I dunno Anon, there weren't that many streams that I'd say we're 'off' significantly before Christmas, and then suddenly, BAM, that shit accelerated hard after Christmas. If it did hit the apex scene first, it was greatly accelerated by that relay.

iirc Ike finished Jump King easily on his first run implying that he's played the game before. Him going for another round on DLC at primetime JP means he means business and wants the SCs. I wonder when are they gonna stop doing buff streams every day during the best timeslots, maybe after most of nijiJP males comes back, but for now, they'll take anything.

>>17330366
Good on her. Bae has a cover up in 14 hours, hopefully it does better than her last one that got 320k views in the first week and a half and has gotten 60k in the 2.5 months since.

Where is council schizo when you need him? Did he get perma banned for asking people to spam their roommates' DMs with gore?

>>17330827
The correct question isn't "when will they stop doing buff streams", the correct one is "when will they run out of stuff that's buff"?

>>17330784
Ngo has been inclining for a while from the Nico clips, also the Selejo alt outfits so far have been top quality, Akane's is pure sex and this is really cute

>>17329014
nijikeks...

>>17330876
Wtf who the hell asks people to do that?

>>17329830
The graduation needs to come with the strongest of ogeys to slay the biggest rrats.

>>17330906
Not sure exactly, they don't have a VR buff and certainly not a music buff, maybe Ike when he gets a song release but he kinda sucks. In any case, Vox found his flavor streams to ring money out every week. Sims, ASMR and Genshin. All the other males could do a zatsudan or SC reading to earn money after they run out of buff streams.

Looking at nijiEN spamming streams everyday, I wonder what part of the contract made them work harder than Myth and Council and what differentiates them. Fauna/Mumei/Kronii could wring out a lot of money by themselves if they do weekly flavor streams like Fauna ASMR, Mumei Karaoke and Kronii VA. They just don't do that.

>>17330580
So is it like, Stream Time/(Views/Avg ccv) and we get the average individual view's watch time for the stream? That's like 11 mins per viewer. I remember some anon shared a video saying average twitch viewer spends 50 or 70 mins on a stream. But I'm not sure how the tab in/out thing will effect it, like if I watch the stream and get verified as a view count and a concurrent viewer, then I tab out, the ccv drops, when I tab in again, the ccv goes up again, does than count another view count? If not, the ccv is way more higher or the retention rate is way lower.

>>17330580
Pretty high is sadly an understatement. It’s practically unheard of with that ccv. You can argue a lot of streams get 100k+ in 1hr even with a 14-17k peak because of the initial churn of people wanting to see what’s happening, but extending that over the course of multiple hours is exclusively a Gura thing, which just makes no sense in the end.

Girl is probably averaging 28k/30k regularly, and I wouldn’t even be surprised if she’s been peaking at 35-40k on a lot of these popular streams.

>>17330800
Here is one even that I think may have helped
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ZjTPTvAgWXY
https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/Apex_Festival/CR_Apex_Festival

>>17330580
View is still getting up slowly 10 by 10. I don't fucking understand how the processing work

>>17331066
Tab in / Tab out seems to filter viewer yeah.

>>17331074
Gura is probably more at 25-30k median than 15k yeah.

>>17331066
>>17331165
So, anyone knows any idea of a formula/equation they use now to get the real average CCV?

>>17331029
I guess HoloEN has more going on behind the scenes. They probably still take it easier overall, but that does account for some of the difference atleast.

>>17331074
300k views on <20k is not normal?

>>17331197 (me)
Welp, tried formulating, but without another comparison, it's still pretty hard to actually recognize it

>>17331165
Gura's current median (according to graphanon) is 19k though iirc. Makes sense if you bump a 5k into it rather than a 15k doubled

Still wished there's a genuine numberfag from HoloEN to get some advice from here rather than a niji|EN member taking everything

>>17331197
Even we can use this stream's live-only-viewcount to get average watch time (11 min) and that average watch time is good data (many reasons why not), this is an exceptional event and most streams we won't have a vod viewcount that excludes vod viewers, so a formula based on it is useless.

>>17330876
Bae's cover is going to be interesting. It is certainly not a FOTM cover but I listened to the original and this is certainly the type of song where Bae is going to totally flex her vocal talents. Songs like that tend to have legs so we will see. Mumei also tweeted about it basically saying "this song is going to blow your mind".

I'm really excited about it as we already know that Bae is a great singer.

how do view average ccv of holo?

>>17331386
Usually we guess.

>>17331299
Ironically twitch is a better place to get data for a formula since you don't have nearly as many VOD watchers and they dont touch the CCV.
So gather data on twitch about ratio of views relative to the CCV and length and then apply that ratio to youtube might be viable to reverse-extrapolate actual CCV.

I think they average about 8-12 views/hour per CCV for shortish 1-2h streams.

>>17331386
@Holo_data, on Twitter.

>>17331386
>>17331454
Also a helpful anon posts his charts in this thread, for both Holo and Niji.

>>17331309
Yeah, KOKIA songs are utterly unlike the normal vocaloid cover.
The original blew my mind when I first heard it many many years ago.

>>17329014
Going by your logic Nijisanji is dominating Hololive.

>>17331231
>300k on a near 4 hour vod that’s purely processed views of the stream? Absolutely fucking not. That’s madness.

https://youtu.be/qFxREKejcU4
Miko’s 10 day old vod of an ark that averaged over 21k and peaked at 31k. It’s only 70k over 300k despite the length of time. Meanwhile, Gura’s ark that had 20k average:
https://youtu.be/ZKN4N7ED3X8

^ Which finished processing at around 450k views and has gained 200k since then, and is an even shorter vod. In short, 300k for a gta with no vod watching factored in is just nuts

>>17331448
Is this the reason why Twitch care more about avg ccv than peaks because it's more stable? (and peaks can be skewed by raids)

>>17331309
Honestly, the easiest way for a vtuber to incline is sing a cover of a popular anime song and there's a lot of them. Don't know why they hadn't taken up at least one or two every 3 months and prefer one or two OG songs every year. It's good advertisements.

>>17331448
The audience is different enough that I can't trust a comparison. If there was a Twitch streamer who drew 90% their viewership from viewers who were normally on YT that could be an interesting data point. Better yet we need YT to go down and have Migo or someone else stream on Twitch for a day and grab the end-of-stream vod stats.

>>17331568
We are probably missing out on so many gold level Gura streams that would forever shut the Nijiniggers up but Susan has to fuck it up.

>>17331607 (me)
Thinking about it there are a few YT vtubers who do regular Twitch streams and someone like Selen's would be a fine comparison in theory.

>>17331568
>>17331612
They had to nerf the shark to give a chance to other holomem

>>17331607
Hololive and Nijisanji should move to twitch after NFT and gifted memberships are introduced. They have enough rep to move their followers to Twitch and find editors to edit their VODs to upload on twitch. Don't go for NND though. NND still sucks for streaming though, no better than YT.

and now we are in the chumcucks cope loop again...

>>17331708
They still think ccv to vod is consistent across the board. Just ignore them.

>Vox called Reimu frustrated and underachieving
LMAO
https://youtu.be/vm75D4L1eNU?t=39

>>17331708
The only cope here is coming from Nijiniggers who would have been eaten by the shark every day if not for Youtube fucking up

>>17331612
>>17331652
Amazing how your first thoughts on this is to be tribal to the other tribe, hell even to your own tribe
Guess that cant be helped being the very nature of the thread.

>>17331708
Well, when we have a (non-inclining) VOD that stopped gaining 'new views' after the stream ended due to copyright, it's a good chance to take a look and realize that the CCV for that stream was pretty blatantly fucky. The true number, we will never know unless Gura herself comes out and says what the peak was, but it certainly wasn't as low as 17k, that's for sure.

>>17331753
t. last samurai scared of Gura's true powers

>>17331771
Keep em falseflagging coming, samurai bro, given time no one will ever take EN's cull argument seriously with you around!

>>17331722
The GTA Vod is perfect for that it's blocked, so only views from the stream.
This no cope, just facts

>>17331797
>argument
Good way to expose yourself, it's not an argument it's a fucking fact that EN are getting culled, so which are you a last samurai pretending to be a nijinigger or a nijinigger pretending to be a last samurai?

Reine just confirmed that there will be a big ID announcement tomorrow afternoon

>>17331816
An ENfag asking you to shut the fuck up forever, you're the reason people don't take us seriously

>>17331850
ID3?

>>17331850
If it's ID3, it fits the predictions many in /#/ have been tossing around about when they'd be dropping (end of January/Early Feb)

>>17331815
So where is the average watch time per viewer? I see, you don't have an important variable. Calculating the peak is impossible.
>>17331850
God I hope Risu is graduating.

>>17331914
March is a no go. Either now or April.

They should have hot dropped it like HoloX, 167k live viewers in 9 hours.

Aqua has now sold 7,075 copies for her new EP in the hololive shop.

There were some wondering in the last thread that it seemed a bit high, this is because there is a fanmeet raffle being held with the EP purchase.

>>17331925
I agree we don't have that data.
But can you believe a 11min watch time per viewer on a 4hr stream ?
She attracts tourist but this is too much

>>17331850
Tomorrow is Sunday so it's hard to say. They usually announce a new wave in the middle of the week and launch at the end of the week

>>17331994
Except that one time they announced it Friday at noon and got some of the best numbers in vtubing history.

>>17332010
holoid isn't even the same stratosphere as holojp gen 6

>>17331959
actually a good amount

Pokobe 10K!

>>17331959
Can you get Watame and Towa number as well? Maybe Suisei?

gold contender beside Subaru?

>>17332185
Watame and Towa have been grabbed before, but Suisei's Stellar Stellar is no longer available.

>>17332290
Korone + BanjoKazooie
Maybe it will struggle to get 5 digits but in my heart this is the biggest stream of the year so far.

>>17332316
It'll be important for historical and meme reasons but yea, number wise it might not be the best.

Tsunomaki Ui taking silver for holo Gen 0

Animal 48 hours. It already beaten Pekomiko Daisensou and it might beat Suisei's phony to 1M.

>>17332310
I know but the number must have increased ever since.

>>17332384
PekoMiko bros I don't feel so good.

It's so easy for Holos to have a majority of greens in their chat. I wonder if they're gonna implement other colors for the names. Maybe YT would feature a tool that could track the people with the most SCs. Top 100 would have their names be on Red/Gold, they would also be given benefits like a gold post every month like those member posts. That way, Holos would need to read their gold posts at the end of every month. It's so scummy, but it's jewish so Susan might implement it on top of another feature where streamers could gift rare NFTs to viewers.

Nijis aren't even trying anymore. It's already JP prime time and their lineup is weak as fuck. Wtf happened to them?

>>17332450

>>17331850
Mythia to HoloID3 soon!

>>17329929
I told you that Twitch number is as valuable as mozambique dollar

>>17331850
An ID debut is gonna get fucked hard by the cull.

>>17332384
Towa - 4907 sold, assuming a max stock of 100k (since I was able to add 95093 to the cart preorder).

>>17332450
It already a feature on Streamlabs.

>>17332476
>vrabi
>no ui mama

>>17332476
No Shigu with her nearly 20k peak?

>>17332570
She's not listed on vrabi, but Holostars does carry her.

>18k with Truck Simulator
What the hell

Oyakodon day for holo

>>17332476
Use green lines, it was better

If anyone interested, Pekora talked about trying to get permissions for Yo-Gi-Oh.

>>17332696
It'd be stupid if Konami declined an easy 40k+ people watching

>>17332696
So Holo just don't have any interest in playing Master Duel until now huh

>>17332696
Its konami so its a no

>>17332595
It's ETS2 with Project Japan mods. Maybe she got buffs from those truck otakus. Are there any other chuubas that have played this?

>>17332696
I would kneel if she did just because Konami had been dicks to them in the past

>>17328085
I want to be Reine's p-chan

Kuro 10k!

Chloe is draining the wallet of an Ojisan again...

Ez 1M yen for stinky

>>17333279
good, she deserves all my money

easy 10k for Botan's shilling stream!

Botan sponsored stream 10k get

>>17333029
I think it's easier to get the new games permissions unlike the old ones but in the end it's konami...

Oh wait, nice, Akina came back today. Luxiem's SC will be low.

She celebrating something?

>>17333581
Line reading stream. I will be disappointed in Stinky Orca if she loses to Gozaru.

>>17333334
You're probably around an hour early on that, she's only 1/5 of the way there

>>17333581
It's her first (and possibly only) viewer-submitted "reading lines" stream

>>17331959
Even so physical sales approaching the 10k range would be a charting album if they were distributed in normal ways.

https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/coa/w/2022-01-31/
http://gaonchart.co.kr/main/section/chart/retail.gaon?time_type=day
different timescales on various charts but the comparisons I find impressive are billboard weekly and gaon monthly, just to get an idea of normal scale of physical sales

>Mori does open VC Jump King in JP times
No one calls in, except for Irys sometimes because of timezones. Mori suffers 8 hours of loneliness.
>Ike does open VC Jump King in JP times
Petra and Shu are already in in the first 10 minutes. Wouldn't be surprised if Reimu and others join in later.

It really is always surprising how much free time NijiEN has to always be available for stuff like this.
Call-ins are basically the only way for Jump King streams to incline.

Fuck niji girl debuffing towa stream,
Should've been easy 8-10k with VSPO + emperor

>>17333581
Crazy how she's 4th in subs for her gen, and she's objectively the 2nd strongest in her gen. Also, how does Yagoo keep on finding these girls?

Sasaki has passed Himawari, putting her back in Nijisanji's top 5, Laplus has passed Mel, and Hetto has closed back the distance on Laplus after Laplus passed her a while back. Laplus' momentum has slowed down, while Hetto's is still steady.

>>17333731
>how does Yagoo keep on finding these girls?

>>17333731
>she's objectively the 2nd strongest in her gen
I'll say Chloe is still ahead by a bit
>More subs (200k more)
>Better karaoke numbers (17k already for Chloe rn whereas Iroha got 16k last night)
>Stronger in SCs
It has been more than 3 weeks since Chloe has done a game stream and she hasn't played ARK or Minecraft yet solo.

Iroha is a very good addition tho and a strong 3rd place for a gen.

>>17333825
Really need to see Chloe's regular streams to compare.

>>17333711
Isn't streaming really their only obligation right now (from Nijisanji)?

>>17333711
Are nijiEN all fulltime chuuba? I only know pomu was an OL but she quitted and went full time. Who else are the full timers?

>>17333880
Some of them are still wagies (Rosemi and Pomu I think), which probably explains why they are rarely around for stuff like this during JP times.

>>17333880
Some do a cover here or there, but as far as we know, yes. They're not getting 3d anytime soon with a bunch of NijiJP still ahead, so I doubt they're doing any sort of prep reps. Some do have non-stream obligations such as work, but on the weekends that's not really an issue. Many of them are leafs, and Canada is currently under 'social distancing/partial lockdowns' depending on where in the country you are.

Guys, you told me that Chloe chased out all of her viewers.

>>17333825
La+, Iroha and Chloe - Rushia/Miko Tier
Koyori - Mio Tier
Lui - Flare/Towa Tier

>>17333934
Rosemi

>>17332696
PEKORA WHERE'S THAT DB GAME YOU TALK ABOUT?

>>17334035
No, anyone who said that was looking at culled numbers and was being anti-gachikoi. Give. The current state of the board being flooded with WOMEN I'm really all not that surprised that there were a few Anons sneaking in that sentiment here and there.
Also, choosing to play Debuff route Undertale and being late to pokemon meant the games were never going to be great numnberswise for her, but she's at least free from BDSP.

>>17333825
>Cunny is a very strong entertainer that doesnt rely on any buff (game/collab), + good vocal
>Orca is the next coming of Coco + ayame, with a cute and amazing "serious" vocal
>Jakin is the soul, an all rounder, with good number, ccv and SC
>Mayo is the stream hour autist, forcing her stats with sheer numbers
>Lui is the glue that connect them all, the yab repeller
>Plus point : they already close enough by the time they debut create a very good and balanced chemistry between lore and bts
Whoever was responsible on forming this group should get a huge bonus. This is how they should create the next gen from now on

>>17334150
Please Chloe, dont start PLA.

>>17334141
She probably didn't get permission yet. And if she ever gets perm for that she will play it on weekend.

>all these niggers downplaying ID
ID3 will shatter all expectations since ID2 has already caught up to holoJP's lower mid-tiers like Polka or Luna when taking Susan's shenanigans into account, expect easy 80k debuts

>>17334035
How often do you hear these (You) you speak of?

>>17334194
Nigga Luna's avg are like 4k-6k. She is nowhere near bottom tier

>>17333825
SC and singing are Chloe's strengths. Iroha generally gets higher numbers on zatsu, games, collabs, and even SC readings. Even if you look at chat rankings on Hololyzer, Iroha is far ahead there which means her chat is generally more involved.

>>17334231
lower mid-tier, learn to read retard

>>17334196
I've actually seen the posts up once in a while whenever she's mentioned, but she's understandably not been brought up much while on break.

what's up with the 11,968 yen supachat to Chloe?

>>17334194
Did you forget HoloID got hit the worst with CCVID?
It's just that no one here really gives a shit about them (because of low numbers) that it went by relatively unnoticed.

Stinky orca is too strong.

>>17334167
she's going to play shadowverse

Subaru gold today i guess.

>>17334263
JP number pun read i-i-ku-ro-e (good Chloe)

>>17334288
>she's going to play shadowverse
No,even worse

>>17333711
>how much free time NijiEN has
They don't have much more free time than holoen. They're just streamers and friends who don't mind coming to someone else's stream.

>>17334196
Quite often actually.
There's always a lot of retards in these threads saying Chloe squandered her debut hype by catering to gachis and how much of a flop she was.
People stopped responding once it got too retarded tho.

>>17334265
They're going to get 80k even with CCVID, ID popularity has easily outstripped half of the holoJP cast thanks to Ollie's hard work.

>>17334164
Hard to believe they did this good when Council is... At least ID3 is gonna be good.

>>17333333
AHH IM LATE NUMBERS

>>17334320
Ok Reimu

>>17334231
Luna and Towa has doubled their numbers. Before they were around 2-3k streamers. Watame has reclined though. Before Watame gets 10-15k and I thought she was the breakout star in their Gen once people got tired of Coco and her antics.

>>17334164
>the yab repeller
I agree with this one, having an older and experienced member really helps the new gens

>>17333581
this
>>17333615
also, better watch it now. She said it was too embarrassing and the archive might be gone

>>17334164
Gen 6 succeeded where gen 5 failed, glad to see the JP scouting side finally got its shit together after EN mogged them in recruitment for the past two gens.

>>17334404
No, its locked to members after 24 hours.

>>17334194
I don't see any ID2 on Luna's level though? Can you back up your claims with numbers anon?

>>17334194
Cover released ID2 when PekoMoon was still hot and fresh. Good luck with ID3 without them.

>>17334431
Fire whoever scouted Council and get Gen 6's scout team for EN Gen 3

>>17334450

>>17333825
Yeah, I'm kind of speaking on a future outlook of the gen since I see Iroha overtaking Chloe somewhere down the line.
>>17333879
This is a great point since Iroha has honestly shown consistency and variety in her streams which is why I see her as a 2nd above Chloe since she's only shown Utawaku and Zatsudans so far post break, and hasn't shown any signs of consistency in her streams as well. But I'll give her the benefit of the doubt since she's only come back from her break, and has lost ground due to it.

Why is no one talking about the shuba collab?

>>17334320
>They're just streamers and friends who don't mind coming to someone else's stream.
I don't deny this
>They don't have much more free time than holoen
but this is just not true lmao.
Look at the hours NijiENs can stream and how flexible their hours are for international collabs.
On the other hand, we know HoloEN is swamped with projects, either personal or Cover-assigned.

>>17334431
>Gen 6 succeeded where gen 5 failed
Gen 5 is extremely successful considering the fact they were double nerfed by Aloe and Myth.

>>17334502
KEK, subcount cope.

>>17334248
Still nowhere near ID's midgetry

>17334502
>Subs

LMAO. cool i guess.

>>17334536
nta but look at the views

>>17334520
>can't even beat Myth even with Myth being heavily culled and having zero support from Cover
>extremely successful
It's easy to look 'extremely successful' when the company gives you the world on a silver platter and hands out undeserved sponsorships left and right despite your popularity not justifying it.

are shubaokayu doing anything special on mario n64?

>>17328151
Sorry orca
nothing personal

>>17334516
Its been going for 9 hours anon and is already gold so far. What else to say.

>>17334546
ID CCVs and VODs are on par or better than most lower mid-tier holos when accounting for CCVID.

>>17334596
Rushia have her birthday and Chloe still manange to get that close

>>17334564
Someone needs to go be autistic and count the amount of times a gen 5 member has participated in events and appearences on the main channel starting with Nene’s holo gra debut. I’m pretty sure they have a like 80% appearence rate minimum

They’re all pretty cool but cover pushed so hard to make sure they stay in the spotlight. Lamy fucking lives on the official channel at this point

Kanzarin, the artist, just finished her Vtuber debut.

She's not on vrabi or live-rankings yet so the numbers might be lost.

Most i saw was a bit over 1.8k live viewers, but she passed 10k subs on this new channel just from the debut.

Best known as Nui Sociere and Nemori Petty;s mama. Even has them in her bio.
Pretty good numbers for a non holo mama from what i've seen.

>>17334380
Watame's problem is her numbers allergy. She's content playing garbage like ff9 and niche games while avoiding anything fotm.

>>17334518
>swamped with projects, either personal or Cover-assigned.
Examples? I can believe that Ame can do something and Ina is sometimes busy drawing pictures for songs and projects, but others do absolutely nothing.
Their only business was related to the upcoming concert and possibly AQUA "LIVE"

It's gotten pretty circlejerky today, but damn HoloJP is so damn strong even with its top brass sitting out already.
>70k+ and top 3 by a wide margin without Pekora, Aqua, Marine, Rushia, Korone, Miko, Laplus...etc

Ok Chloes break didn't hurt anywhere near as much as I thought, granted she came back fast as fuck. Surely Laplus still passes her long term right?

>>17334431
Gen 5 = 4 Polka ?

gen 5 failed with Nene and Lamy on top 10 superchat last year ? OK

>>17334564
always with the same sad cope

>>17334647
>Myth
>organic popularity
>Gen 5
>company-mandated shilling
Simple as that, all the corporate push in the world can't buy you actual popularity and it is pretty telling when you compare gen 5 to Myth.

>>17334520
Gen 4 is the weakest actually. Typical gen 5 schizo, no stats or source to back up the claim.

>>17334564
>hands out undeserved sponsorships left and right despite your popularity not justifying it.
Sorry nijinigger, this is not your black company. Everyone get their fair share of the pie since they carry this whole franchise together, not relying on one or two livers like Niji does

>Chloe announcing her first cover
>It's another Animal

It's the popular song i guess.

>>17334706
>comparing SCs when Myth doesn't bait SCs at all and any time they even try slightly they mog anyone in gen 5 with ease
Yeah, let's ignore that Mori didn't even stream half of what Lamy did this month or begged for SCs as hard and STILL mogged her

VSPO bros?

>>17334787
sad cope

>>17334778
Gen 5 aren't carrying shit, they could graduate the next day and nothing would change. Meanwhile Myth not existing would have a massive impact on hololive and the vtubing industry.

>>17334746
Not really. Gen 4 have 2 members with $1M superchat without coco.

>>17334681
>Examples?
...Mori's ridiculous music output?
Irys recording an actual EP?
Mumei and Kronii just released original songs.
Fauna is working on a project.
Gura literally has to cancel streams because she's so busy with hololive-related stuff.

>>17334563
Trying to finish it in one go. They're on the last bowser right now, and can't game over as long as they grab the one-up outside the boss pipe after they die. It's now just a matter of them understanding they don't need to do max power tosses to get him into bombs.

>gen 5 schizo is present
Ok, how bad niji number today?

It's funny to think that despite not streaming as much as NijiEN, HoloEN might have behind-the-scene projects that keep them busy and also help them reach a wider audience than just streaming.

There are probably merch stuff, singing stuff and even events that we do not know of for HoloEN.

>>17334816
watch streams faggot.

>>17334746
>Gen 4 weakest
Absolute retard.

>>17334706
>>17334564

>>17334779
And an original song later.

>>17334787
data last year didn't count but data from this month with Mori's yab count? with tons SC from saviorfags LOL.
sad cope

>>17334852
bad, like always

>>17334859
Omori merch already made them a fortune. Imagine selling out within hours.

>>17334642
37K is close to you?
cope

>>17334836
I'm still surprised some people still think HoloEN doesn't have any projects outside streaming.

>>17334739
>Myth
>organic popularity
You mean the Myth that literally debuted when Hololive reddit popularity was at its peak. Compared to Gen 5 that literally had no honeymoon period in favor of Myth and had retarded dramas like Aloe and janitors? Laughable, simply laughable.

>>17334884
>saviorfags
Don't exist for Mori since she chased away the incels, in fact it's pretty sad that Lamy has to pander so hard to the unicorns and still loses to Mori

>>17334836
>Irys recording an actual EP
Look vsinger doing what vsinger should do!
Yet her number is still trash compared to Goddess Suisei

>>17334536
>These numbers don't count because I say so
Cope

>>17334862
seems like (you) are the one that needs to watch streams

>>17334829
>>17334836
>>17334862
>>17334884
>>17334915
>>17334917
>>17334917
>>17334920
>>17334928

>>17334642
even without birthday buff she's ahead
orca mogged
rushia will remain the number one

>>17334915
Reddit popularity is organic popularity, you blithering retard. Gen 5 has no popularity outside of Cover trying to push them for sponsorships and main channel shows. That's the difference between public demand and a corpo faking it.

>>17334739
>Debuts 1 month before Myth
>Has all the sponsorships in the world
>Plastered on main channel for days
>Appears in every birthday and holo event
>End up with Gura having as much subs as all 4 combined

Never gets old

>>17334897
Niji stans can rave about SC numbers and stuff but to be honest, without big merch and sponsor stuff, it's hard to make a sustainable income.

Heck, HoloMyth will have Pop Up Parade figurines in the future. NijiEN only have voice packs and 1 new outfit.

>>17334897
I'm pretty sure each of the talents has to figure out their own b-day merch too, though they get the lions-share of the profits as a result. Like Gura settled with a design that would be plausible to wear outidw without being exposed as a massive chumbud, etc. I figure that between artist commission and all that it actually takes a while to get it right, whereas de NijiEN they haven't had such a thing yet for their bdays right?

Who's this guy and why is he getting 3k for Genshin?

And yes, he's been vtubing for over 2 years.

>>17334964
>Reddit popularity is organic popularity
That was mainly build by Coco and previous JP gens, not Myth.

>>17334518
>but this is just not true
It is. I know you dont watch their streams (this isnt an insult) but whenever these impromptu collabs happen, they always talk about doing their work on the side while being in the call. And for even more context, the 3 in the current stream especially (Ike, Shu, and Petra) are amongst the earliest to finish their work.

>>17334642
Anon did you forget that chloe have outfit reveal this month?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1ppPg98dm0

>1 hour left
>2k waiting
this is it Aki, this is your time to shine!

>>17335005
Funny how none of those previous gens have all their members past 1 million subs.

>>17334852
Really bad. The rrat he made up is hilarious actually.

>>17335005
>and previous JP gens
no anon, it was
50% Coco
10% Memes - manly Scatman and Ekem Bukom
40% Myth and the explosion of EN vtuber popularity that followed.

>>17335026

>>17334990
W-well, they have voice packs!
Yeah, voice packs are so awesome because we can support our favs instantly unlike shitty merch where Holo vtubers have to wait months and months.

Duck is holding gold today?

>>17335071
gold and silver

>>17335071
Yes peaked at 32k.

>>17335043
Just like council
Still not beating chocosub account btw

>/hour/

>>17335099
gold and bronze you mean

>Kanae started 16 mins ago
>Ike's chart doesn't even dip
Is it time to retire the "Luxiem is just cannibalizing NijiJP's audience" theory?

>>17335099
No. Orca already have the silver.

>>17335111
>whataboutism with Council
Gen 5 is still a failure no matter how much you try to deflect

>>17334990
I think aside from vtuber design, the talents do have a lot of input in their merch and sponsorship, which I find very good for them.

>>17335059
>50% Coco
More like 80% because her reddit reviews had ridiculous views long before Myth debuted.

>>17335142
right, my bad

>>17335146
They dont. Still doesnt change the fact their audience are chinks tho

>>17334836
>Mumei and Kronii just released original songs
They have been ready for a long time. Kronii was waiting for MV
>Mori
The last song was a month ago (cover). Nijien are also engaged in songs, this does not prevent them from coming to other streams
>Fauna is working on a project.
It doesn't mean anything without specifics. If there is something like a gender bender stream, then it takes a minimum of effort.
>she's so busy with hololive-related stuff.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1486052413786230791
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1483242161139298304
>Irys recording an actual EP
That's her job, that's what she debuted for

Btw, Petra is still studying, doing designs for herself and her colleagues, but still appears on streams.

>>17335146
So basically NijiEN males are just Niji(SEA+CN) these days? The main EN market is left dried for HoloEN to pick now?

>>17334979
>>17334990
Lets be a bit more fair with this. The branch has only been out for 8 months and have been fighting an extremely uphill battle (at least for the girls). So the most I can say is, theyre trying their best. Well just have to wait and see in the future

Holy shit de gozaru

>>17335162
Council is still a failure no matter how much you try to deflect

>>17335146
so basically Kanae is reclining hard huh

1 hour in, these were the Overwatch numbers.
+ the other not listed
>Arisakaaa 12k
>Shibuya Hal 6.5k ???
>Uruca 5.2k
>ふらんしすこ- CR - 423

>>17335206
Alright ShinobiHost, we know you like Nijisanji but not to this extent.

>>17335070
Jokes on you, the new shop has much faster shipping so there goes your cope! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!
Okay jokes aside, Shiba Okayu JUST finished. JUST IN TIME TO FUNNEL TO KORONE.WHAT IS THIS.