/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber
>https://mix.live-ranking.com/?keyword=バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

ironmouse getting hit by the holo debuff getting 2-3k less viewers than her month average,

The funnel after Gura's Bully.

How is this Ironmouse collab not a buff?

>>17307332
It's double funnel.

>>17307332
Lmao! Holo fans hate vshitjo.

>>17307352
No one wants to fucking watch shadowverse.

>>17307352
its shadowverse

>>17307332
Kek

>mouse broke 10k on the ad
??????

>>17307352
>shadma-
oh wait wrong one
>shadowverse

>>17307562
they ended the game so that is a buff

Also 7k waiting for gura. 3min late

>>17307612
7k waiting for GTA? Man the double dip stream really fucks with her numbers, I guess people get their dose of Gura and fuck off to watch the VOD for the second one.

>>17307352
>vwhorejo being a buff

>>17307352
>Shadowverse

>>17307723
CCVID is getting worse.

>>17307723
only just getting waiting room

>>17307352
shadowverse

>>17307977
she wasnt even that late, only 4min
yet comparing the recovery window between her and suaru who had simialr waiting rooms is uncanny

>>>>17307734
it's not vshojo being a buff, it's collabing with a bigger streamer like mouse, but somehow this ended up as same viewers as usual for mori and lower than usual for mouse, shadowverse debuff i guess

>>17308094
6 mins recovery for gura and 2 mins for subaru

>>17308094
Just part of the natural recline

>>17307464
Jesus,why not play hearthstone?

>>17308220
It was sponsored

Linking the previous thread since OP is a faggot >>17285180

>>17307332
>LETSGOO CALLI BTFO THOSE ANTIS MY QUEEN
>YEEEEAH COLLAB WITH ANYONE YOU WANT
>FUCK YEAH VSHOUJO HYYYYYPE
>*doesn't watch the collabs*
>*choose pokemon snooze fest over the collab*

>>17308248
I wonder if anyone at hololive even plays hearthstone. didn't something from nijien play hearthstone on stream before?

>>17308220
is hearthstone even a buff game these days? the hype now is in the new yugioh

>>17308220
Mori unironically likes shadowverse after she was sponsored to play it.
Kiara kicked her ass so bad that she swore to get better at the game.

Kronii got over 1k on her member's poll. 336 likes on the stream.

>Play 2 buff games in a day
>get dogshit numbers on both
Hopefully Gura never does this again

>>17307418
I thought it was pretty obvious most hololive fans usually only watch hololive. that's why shilling and begging people to watch other companies/indies don't work.

>>17308880
It’s also why collabing with stars does nothing to help them.
Rikka never inclined after Mori did a fucking song and remix contest with him or when Fubuki and Matsuri tried helping them.

>>17308863
probably multiple streams hurt the recommendation system.

>>17309036
unity fags exist but they are probably less than 10% of the fanbase. hell, I can go as far and say 40% of all hololive fans only watch 1-3 girls.

>>17308880
One-off collabs don't really do much of anything. It's when they become a constant collab partner and are well-received that some audience share begins to occur. Otherwise they're viewed with disdain or indifference if they're disliked. That constant-collab bit is what's important though.

>>17309077
I think it's just CCVid ramping up. Gura has been stuck in a 13k slump for a lot of games recently, which was usually reserved for her most debuff of games.
Like, VR chat game with a loli just 14k? Fucking prime time GTA stuck at 13k, barely doing better than Bully outside her timeslot?

>>17308863
Reclining

Shu pokemon without Chinks
2.6K

>>17309217
how are the vods? I know they need time to get processed but if you compare them right after she ended her stream with her other streams with similar length, it is possible to draw some conclusion from it.

Why the hell Shuba has so many viewers? What the hell is even this show?

>>17309217
Natural recline + people moving on to Niji

>>17309282
Hard to say since Gura's bizarre streaming hours (later than usual Arceus, earlier than usual Bully) have been putting her 2 recent VODs within a 24 hour time period of each other, but Arceus for example is at 320k for 2 hours vs Shion's 409k for 8 hours with 2k+ CCV over Gura.

2view company finally hitting 4 digits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iinc_xIqSp4

>>17309282
We have already timelooped this to death, her vod views have not gone down.
her 15k CCV streams have similar number of views after 12-24h of processing to JP streams that had 30k CCV.

>>17309429
>Doesn't know Ohashuba
Lurk more, newfag

>>17309429
>almost double Shuba's like
Nahone

But yes, Shuba is actually a really high tier holo and her zatsus are her buff content (next to yakuza).

>>17309429
Its... In the title. And the thumbnail. In English.

>>17309432
No, i think ccvid is back,Shu pokemon is only at 2.5K .

>>17309432
>Natural recline
Probably
>people moving on to Niji
Doubt

>>17309217
I mean, we saw it ramp up with the JP-side too after the relay. If it's working off of watch history (since being logged out means you can't be flagged, and watch history is the EASIEST way for a 'lazy AI' to try and 'catch' bots to be verified) Then as you watch and get recommended more then more users get flagged and we snowball into peak CCVID in early January 2022.
Also, just a reminder, but Botan said THIS STREAM -> https://holo.poi.cat/stream/S7JxoFxV40k Got over 10k after verification no? And yet looking at the graph that waiting room 'recovered' fine.

>>17309152
>That constant-collab bit is what's important though.
That did never happen with any Holo (from any branch) and either stars or outside companies, at least not since the Holocaust and the chinkout.

Maybe the closest thing to “constant” would be Shigure Ui collabs and even those were ramped down (mostly due to Shigure being an infrequent streamer).

Tamaki put it well when answering about “why no Holo collab” (although she would have a collab with Noel and Choco the week after that or so)

1) Holo girls are too busy sometimes to stream even at their own channels, let alone collab
2) When they’re not, they’ll obviously prioritize to collab with their gen mates and company mates
https://youtu.be/sX9kuXL0ZhM

>>17309217
>>17309282
is hard to do a comaprision since they might be different lenght and aslo differnt hour.

>>17309432
>moving to niji
i mean all niji streams except rosemi yu gioh are low as hell.
>>17309429
her weekly newshow, she is usually 20k by now so is a little slower but nothing worrisome.
is

>Episode 1 vs Episode 2
Uh oh.

>>17307464
>>17307438
>>17307567
>>17307889
>>17308045
But la+ shadowverse number..

>>17309537
Based Nene

>>17309626
I'm aware. I'm just stating why a single collab does jack shit for viewership in the long-term.

>>17309654
why can't niji retain tourists?

>>17309663
>La+
>JP vs EN
>Cunny vs Cunt
Pick your choice of timeloop

>>17309663
Debut buff

>>17309733
To be fair, it's probably thumbnail related too.
Saku's first thumbnail makes my pants tighter.

>>17309654
Good to see, it's a garbage game.

>>17309654
Is Arceus too shitty of a streaming game?

>>17309654
>episode 1 has fast incline, peaked, and slowly recline
>episode 2 has sliw incline, peaked, and stagnated
Why do the graphs look different?

>>17309829
Aren’t all recent Pokemon games? It took a genius twist by Fubuki to make the last one even passably interesting.

>>17309829
is open world so yes

>>17308443
It was obvious the people "supporting" her edgy way of handling the trolls were tourists trying to virtue signalling.
>Yeah go kween! Makes those incels seethe!
>Ha! I made it! I'm better than those incels because I support girls collabing with males
>*Never appears again
Now that the storm is gone we see now how many people are actually supporting her.

>>17309845
>chossing a starter and discovering the comabt system
>actually exploring and doing fetch quests

>>17309829
open world and not many trainer battles

>>17309845
Literally release hype of curious onlookers wanting to see what the game was like. They see it's kind of a snore and they'll not bother coming back.

>>17309921
Its this image but on an even worse scale

>>17309845
Episode 1 vs. episode 2, meaning tourists checking if it was good (with most realizing very early that it’s not and bailing) vs the segment of the first stream that really liked it and staying for the long haul

>>17309921
but this thing has happened time and time and time again with Mori, I particularly remember the last time she appeared in the podcast, it had like 25k CCV, then Mori streamed and peaked at 5k, those niggers won't EVER join a stream

>>17309663
She is entertaining, simple as. She is the perfect example of watching the streamer not the game.

The December update was removed only for Asia.

>>17309977
Homobeggars aren’t Stars fans. More news at 10.
The fucking l*ddit post got more traffic than Stars collab with EN

>>17310081
Racist

>>17310032
it's also fun watching her getting bullied by randoms and her hubris coming back to haunt her. Laplus actually feels like Jahy

>>17309977
This is what a bunch of the idiots who've moved into /vt/ since Luxiem debuted actually think, and it's tiring to see the same types of anti-unicorn bait threads pop up.

What can chumb learn from shuba

>>17310081
No, it was removed for everyone then EN relayed themselves into CCVid round 2. Youtube never "fixed" anything, it just reset the flags, and EN/ID viewers got themselves reflagged.

>>17310151
>Laplus actually feels like Jahy
This 100%, down to the bad luck and the overt poverty. It doesn’t even look like an act like either

>>17310193
Consistency? Variety? Preparing for streams?

>>17310193
Not get CCVID

1st 20k of the day goes to duck.

>>17310193
Branching out collabing with various members in Holo

>>17310327
wut happen?

>>17310248
Learn about ccvid retard

>>17310193
Consistent streams equal consistent numbers

>>17310193
ywnbj
Gura has double the likes

>>17310081
>only for asia

But her youtube account is asia because of she's using cover's one.
That's why she is in here
https://youtubelive.soraweb.net/

>>17310373
REAL TIME CULLING OF VIEWERS LET'S GO!

>>17310384
Doesn't matter any of those until Cccvid still there

>>17310434
For the last time, CCVid flags the viewers based on their behavior, not the accounts.
It's possible 2020 cull flagged accounts, or its possible it just targeted behaviors inherent to foreign audiences, like CCVid.

>>17310461
Gura will never, CCVid or not.

>>17310023
Knowing that Mori sometimes is a numberfag, I would not be surprised if she saw the numbers of the Terraria collab and her ego grew to the moon believing she actually won over the antis with the dumb way she handled them.
Is clear she still has people supporting her but stuff like this show is not on the same level before the yabai.

>>17310421
And more viewers

>>17310577
JP bros watch all Holos, they are sharing fans, so more total viewers and peaks. EN bros are tribalists, Cumbuds only watch Gura and Ame, funnel doesn't work at all. There's your answer.

There are 40 poster /here/ rn. Can we all make a tweet to YT? I know it'll probably got the same reply but if we annoy them enough, and get other's to do the same, it might affect something

>>17310761
Meanwhile subaru

>>17310517
That sounds awfully vague to me. All the western streamers who hasn't any of asia account audience on Youtube would be 2views if bug is actually working.

>>17310761
It's been a while since I saw childfuckers pushing this page rumao.

>>17310666
>her ego grew to the moon believing she actually won over the antis with the dumb way she handled them.
Sometimes I wonder if you retards genuinely believe this bullshit.
>stuff like this show is not on the same level before the yabai
Mori Shadowverse used to get 3-5k so 7k today with heavy overlap is somehow bad?

>>17310761
>>17310816
When will you learn? Its so tiring looping the same garbage every single fucking morning

https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxjKXHh7U4UazMQgaqqcgp5Q2P062gaPqY
regarding Aqua's concert yesterday

We can reply omega this time. Management t had to do something about this

>>17310795
Anon, are you even aware of where you are? The reason people post in an anonymous Peruvian anime catgirl forum is likely an indication most wouldn’t want to disclose their identities, meaning
>they don’t have social media accounts
>those who do have it will hide their power level and never “let the streams cross” from this world to that

>>17310193
What can DUCK learn from shork?

Without CCVID, gura mogs her in any metric while being inconsistent and lazy.

>>17310081
EN has had their numbers fucked since December 2020

>>17310860
>A while
They post that page every day newfag

>>17310880
Wasn’t today an anticipated (and insistently requested) collab with an off company partner?
You of course would expect a better number than her usual solo streams.

>>17310666
>Is clear she still has people supporting her but stuff like this show is not on the same level before the yabai.
>Mori gets her regular numbers, despite streaming outside of her timeslot and overlapping with Gura and Fauna
What do you mean by this?

>>17310761
>>17310816
>Shuba has better viewer retention
Shuba is more interesting confirmed

>>17311051
Give duck 3 million subs

>>17310880
It's the hyped Ironmouse hisyojo collab bruh

>>17311068
It was happened JP too

>>17311051
>thinking VOD and likes matter
Ngmi...

Ah fuck, didn't expect Aqua to drop an EP after the concert, didn't get to scrape initial stock for her EP
Assuming 10k stock: 6906 sales @ $18.00 = $124,308.00

>>17311245
It's a split POV shadowverse collab with heavy holo overlap.
Are you a newfag or retarded?

>>17311199
7k is *not* a good number for a collab with Ironmouse, and I don’t have even have any opinion on any “yab” or think it has anything to do with it

>>17311225
Nijinnigers wake up already...I see

>>17310880
NTA
But tell my, why the fuck she would, badly, write a " comeback" to a meme calling her fanbase cucks after six days it was posted. And then go begging her fanbase to let her "have fun" arter they tell her it was a bad idea.
Everyone knows, despite alll those pity inducing stories about her highschool days, she has an ego, a fragile one.

>>17311327
>>17311320

>>17311362
>Gura gets shit numbers
>Muh Nijiniggers, muh SEA, muh VODs

>>17311318
>ignoring ccvid
Retard

Feels like ccvid is getting worse every passing day for the en girls.

>>17311320
>On different plattaforms
If anythings, we can say Youtube and Twitch do not share userbase that much.
In special when Mousey got more viewers than Mori.

>thread is stuck in a name calling timeloop again
Abayo

>>17311429
Nijiniger take your meds pls, you are still seething

>>17311318
Are you retarded? We have since concluded Vods>ccv since the ccvid arc . Not only cuz of reliability but its where the sponsors and cash comes from.

Plus, I didnt even begin to say what matters or not. I said EVERY metric regardless if it matters

>>17311473
Mori got 15k likes in 2 hours, that's more than what Gura usually gets in 2 hours.
The VODs will show how badly she got culled.

>>17309537
Tenshi love, angel love.

The hell lead Gura to incline 2k+ in the past 30 minutes? Were some member streams ended or something?

>>17311199
This, retard
>>17307332
>>17308443

>>17311381
If you follow the thread you’ll see one of the general points is that
1) LOTS of people will make it a point to make a overt statement showing their support for certain things (that the majority of the audience is either indifferent or actively dislike) like, for instance, more cross company collabs
2) but when those actually happen they will do exactly as you highlighted
>lol, not watching it
>not at that slot
>not that game

And even those who ask for it and actually watch can’t offset the audience that is lost because they’re not really wanting that

>>17311607
Shuba ended

>>17311535
>we
This thread is still CCV heavy and will always be, culled or not.

>>17311607
West coast kids out of school. You niggers constantly yap that her fan base is all kids and wonder why she gets more viewers as US kids get out of school?

>>17311588
>Gura slowly crawls 100 views every few minutes up with her EN fanbase
>Subaru releases 20k JOPs, some of them tune into same chan playing GTA since its not THAT JOP hostile a stream
>somehow Gura rapidly inclines 2k
That does point to CCVid

>>17311588
>Pulling the chumbuds cope
Just post that website with the "real numbers" ffs
If you are gonna cope, do it all the way

>>17311535
>We have since concluded Vods>ccv since the ccvid arc
kek, you and the voices in your head don’t make a “we”

>>17311321
6906? Isn't that...a little high? I mean not that I didn't expect Aqua goods to sell well but that's a lot more considering how her song views have been.

>HoloENkeks

>>17311752
Are there seriously any copers left thinking CCV matters after seeing Susan live fudging the numbers? Despite youtube right NOW still saying on twitter the CCV bug isn't fixed? Despite Cover deliberately selling VOD numbers to sponsors, not CCV?

>>17311720
Oh, it couldn't possibly be that + people getting back from Uni + work on the west coast nope, gotta all be kids when we have fucking demographic data from COVER themselves that indicate that under 18s are sub 10% of her viewership.

>>17311770
Aqua sells anon. This is why she's probably the one with the high profile sponsorship like Red bull.

>>17311607
JP viewers are easier to be acknowledged by CCV
(Since Gura Channel is JP)

>>17311876
I’m not disputing anything you said, not that you’re speaking for yourself and not for a general “we” that doesn’t exist

>>17311720
Official numbers say the vast majority of her audience is working-age adults - 9-5 means you don't get home until 6 at the earliest (unless you live really close to work). Stack that on top of the CST/EST late shift and that's where most of the NA audience can start showing up.

>>17311623
All that shows is Gura watchers prefer to watch Pokemon over shadowverse.
Again, how does this show that Mori lost fan support after her yab as this implies
>Is clear she still has people supporting her but stuff like this show is not on the same level before the yabai.
Don't forget that this is her 4th stream since her "yab" and she's gotten her usual numbers for those streams too.

>>17311893
Truth be told under 13 can’t signup to YouTube with their real age and under 18 rarely do (because those accounts are usually restricted on some way or another), so you wouldn’t know the real number.

I don’t think she has a big under 18 audience tho

>>17311942
Mori got just slightly less like than Gura's Bully. Either CCVID got her, or viewers didn't stay long.

>>17311717
>>17311752
What are you fags on about? We were done with this unless youre tourists.

Anyhow, gura mogs vods or ccv(supposedly)

>Holos get high CCV
Only CCV matters!
>VShojo mogs the shit out of Holo CCV
T-those don't c-count! O-only VOD m-matters!

Holofaggots I swear

>>17311942
Superchat decreased since the Terraria collab

>>17311899
I'm aware, I'm aware. Its just I'd usually associate music views = EP sales, but I guess Aqua's a special case.

>>17312049
>we

>>17312005
Official stats (closest thing to the truth)> speculation

>>17311876
This general is 90% CCV despite how much VODs matter. Its a horse race not a paint drying contest, deal with it.
Feel free to attempt a VOD numbers thread, no one is stopping you.

>>17312043
>holo fans see notif
>the strange girl in the thumb is not from the game
>boring
>watch fauna

>>17312055

>>17311686
>showing their support for certain things
There's a difference between not minding cross-company/homo collabs and actively pushing for them. It's not mutually exclusively.
Most people are in the former.
I don't mind if HoloEN collabs with Vshojo, but I'm not watching a shadowverse stream no matter who is streaming it.

>>17312005
Yea. I know about age fudging, MOST USERS HERE should be it for one reason or another.
>>17312055
Alright shitposter/idiotchama, you make the classic act/mistake of attributing what one group says to the whole, of course.

>>17312055
ah, you are back!

>>17312049
Read past threads you fucking tourist. Its either armchair manager or CCV

>>17312124
Anon stop trying to claim the general is about anything but numbers. If the most common talking point of the thread is what defines it, it's not the /#/ thread, it's the tribalism thread.

>>17312206
>gooktoons
>>/Trash/

ENfags really need to shut up in this thread. Either try to fix your oshi's numbers by complaining to youtube or go away. Nobody cares about all these copes. This is not imaginary numbers thread

>>17312088
Are you like actually retarded?
She made $9k in her terraria stream.
Do you expect her to make $9k every stream, especially when 2 of them are collab streams?
The fact that she made $9k on a collab stream in the first place already disproves that she lost fan support.

>we

>>17312316
>This is not imaginary numbers thread
>>17312124
>This general is 90% CCV
Which one?

>>17312347
If you're not inclining every stream, you're reclining

I was under the impression that Cover cares way more about VOD views than CCV since the leaked report pretty much only talks about VOD views. Why does /#/ only talk about CCV most of the time?

>>17312347
>disproves that she lost fan support.
>>17309921
The true fan support starts now

Another flop from council
https://youtu.be/AAwJ0_uqhb4

>>17312440
This thread isn't Cover and rarely cares about chubba's overall revenue
Also VODs are shit to track compared to CCV

>>17312517
So this thread is just a bunch of anons shitposting over meaningless numbers? Nahone.

>>17312440
It's a horse racing thread about retarded shit like medals.

>>17312461
>Gets her normal numbers for 3 streams now since her comeback stream
>She lost fans
At least wait till she does a SC reading where she gets an actual shit number before shitposting.

>>17312580
It's like this when there isn't anything actually meaningful to discuss of course.
When there are events (and those can be compared Year over Year for VODS/CCV) when the end of the month hits and trends can be discussed *(CCVID kinda fucking with that right now though) and when our resident shitposters and shitSTIRRERS go and fuck off for a few hours is when the thread is bearable. Now are not those hours.

>>17312440
Same viewers can be counted twice or more so not as cool as CCV

>>17312580
>>17312581
How new?
This thread is also this close to starting a virtual betting site like stocks similar to NASFAQ

>>17312179
>VShojo is 5 Veibae, 5 Ironmouses, 5 Nyanners 5 Melodys, 5 Froots

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17312750
NTA, but Nasfaq did update a betting feature. It is seriously handmade for us to succeed rumao

>>17312517
>>17312581
>>17312712
>>17312726
>>17312750
I was bored, thanks for the (You)s.

>>17312440
>Why does /#/ only talk about CCV most of the time?
In addition to what the others are saying, most anons here also have short attention spans and can't retain information for more than a few days.
That's why you see people spamming incline/recline after 1-2 streams when nothing happened.
Despite being repeatedly shown to be BS, CCV lets them get a dopamine high after seeing a big number and they can relive it the next day.

>>17311321
Jesas that's a lot. Probably more than Watame's and Towa's.

>>17312889
>I was only pretending to be retarted.

>>17312580
Jesus if we are going to talk about vods and the revenue it generates pekora would top everyone no? And you fags will just go with the average views cope again..

>>17312916
Aqua is significantly more popular than Towa and Watame overall.

Jeez Gura just lost 1000 viewers in 2 mins eventho nothing happened (no other streams started)

>>17312703
>Normal
Mori, stop reading these threads and go try to regain those people that gave you 9k USD.
Because you are no longer the Superchat queen of EN.

Gura suddenly drop 2k
What happened?

>>17313151
1.5k
weird behavior indeed.

>>17313151
She's not doing anything interesting. Tab outs + going to do other stuff before she gets to the next high point obv.

>>17313239
Still doing better than Lamy without having to pander to incels

>>17313266
Natural recline

>>17312889
Cute doggo
Have another (You)

>>17313048
I guess she can release a physical CD and sold as much as Suisei.

My poor shark…

>>17313336
Probably not since Aqua's music isn't on the same level.
Pekora is more popular than Suisei but if she released an album, it'll sell way worse.

>>17313266
Susan doesn't want the shark to have more viewers than Ludwig so she told her pajeet team to slash viewers.

>>17313151
>>17313266
>>17313271
>>17313274
>>17313289
Sudden drop in Graph
This is not tabbed out behavior

>>17312964
Twitch stream I watch said in the past that his YT vod channel was about half is income. Recently he said he earns about 200k a yr on twitch. So a YT vod channel that uploads 3-4 videos a week and gets 20-40k view on each video makes him $100kish. Yeah Peko's vods making bank since her videos are equally long.

>we

>>17313291
Anon, the ones who had beaten Mori were the fags of Luxiem.
The ones Mori has been interacting more lately.

>>17313274
I don't think so since she's been a flat line for almost 1.5 hours and then suddenly bled 2k+ viewers in a few minutes.
It's a steep drop.>>17313362

>>17309429
>Reddit Duck is a really high tier Holo
She isn't

Her AVG CCV is barely 11k and she is well behind Miko in hours watched. Upper mid tier at best.

>>17313431
>>17313362
My tinfoil hat says someone manually dropped the Gura because Ludwig was getting mogged.

>>17313420
>15k ludwig
the recline...
>>17313431
yeah they capped her JUST below 14k

>>17313274
Impossible, even when she reached a cutscene where the views normally go 100 - 200 up she still lost it

>>17313465
>Subaru
>5th most watch Holo
>mid tier at best

>>17310880
Didn't all the normalfags beg for this? They love seeing this cross company shit, or so they claim. You can see the twitter replies all saying how hyped up they are over it and yet it doesn't come close to cracking 10k? A number that any mid tier Holo can pull on a lazy day streaming Minecraft?

The normalfags who claim they want more vshojo collabs, more collabs with Trash Taste, e-celeb collabs and Homostar collabs are not the people who watch streams. Mori needs to realize this before she crashes her viewerbase just to appease Twitter trannies who are more interested in sticking it to the incels than actually supporting Hololive talents.

>>17313517
Fuck yea nevermind, I was just coping that more users weren't getting flagged in real time, but a bunch of people probs just got flagged.

>>17313455
>Mori lost againsts japanese fujos
Kek

>>17313488
Whatever happened, these views didn't go to any of the other current EN streams

>>17313652

>>17313709
Fauna's line also shows a decline at the same moment.

Do Vtubers ever make it to this page?

>>17313465
>Her AVG CCV is barely 11k

bro, it's including culled period too

>>17313709
I've run the numbers on this and confirm Gura is not being culled, it's a natural recline

>>17313785
LUL obviously never.
Ludwig isn't even playing a game right now and Vaush is definitely not gaming.

The heart of this shark to tell Susan to fuck off.

>>17313709
Selen pokemon 1.4K
Rosemi hand cam 1.6K
Its kind of low even to them.
Man,ccvid is still there.

>>17313785
Vtubers are blacklisted.

>>17313709
>>17313738
Looks like it may have been something sitewide? I see Ludwig dropped too. Maybe a server went bonkers for a bit.

>slowly declines to 14000
>rapid incline back to 16000
Hmmm

>>17313858
>>17313909
What are the chances that they are experimenting with stuff to remove the 1 viewer bug?

>>17313975
Why would you roll out a bugfix on a Friday night?

>>17313909
She got into a story mission so is hard to tell how much is viewers comming back from that dip or new ones

>>17313898
nah mainly looks like its was just gura (if it isn't obvious ludwig at the bottom from playboard)

>>17314035
>She got into a story mission
It's not, she's doing a side mission and she stopped right at what her number was before the random drop.

>>17313909
Weird as fuck.

>>17313785
Lmao Fuck no, it's insane how much YouTube ignores vtubers

>>17313785
Depends on your region maybe?

>>17314026
The same reason the retards at youtube roll out stuff right before christmas multiple years in a row.

>>17314057
just pulled his stream up again and hes now at 13.6k

>>17313785
No? What do vtubers have to do with gaming?
Now socailist youtuber doing LGBTQ museum stream, that's what's cracking

confirm me something numberfriends. does watching live streams using streamlink affect the viewer count?

Potential Gura Poll holy shit
It's happening.

POLLLLLLLLL ON GURAAAAAAAAA

poll on gura
HOLD

Needs to last 5 minutes or it's gay

Gura always ends her polls like 2 min in because she has the attention span, body, and voice of a 12 year-old boy.

>>17313785
>Do Vtubers ever make it to this page?
Never! If they allowed Vtubers, 3dpd would never win.

Gura Poll
Come quick!

>1min only
>6k
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH MY NUMBER AUTISM

Fuck, 1 minute 6267 votes.
Too soon to tell anything.
I couldn't even screenshot it.

Goddamn, missed the screenshot. 6.2k views, 1 minute (but I'm not sure it was an actual full minute or a youtube approximation)

>not even a minute

>>17314297
>>17314306
>>17314348
6k on "just now" and she pulled

6k was only up for under a min

It's like 6K.......

Whatever you say YT

she only left it open for 1 minute and it hit 33% participation.

Fucking hell Gura ended that poll fast

Youtube just made me re log in to vote in the poll, taking me away from the page. That's the first time that's happened, interesting.

1 minute poll
Gura you dumbass

>>17314515
Might wanna change your password anon

with how gura is doing with the in-game stocks, i am now very worried with what she is doing with her actual finances

About 40% engagement, thats pretty normal.

Ok so everyone is still on the poll but I'm still fucking confused about the 16k>14k>16 dip. And she's not been doing anything interesting for like 10 minutes now but still at 16k.

>>17314590
Why?

Susan..... He becoming a hobo......

>>17314628
>40% ENGAMENT IN 1MIN
>normal
i wanna strangle you

>>17314628
In under a minute? shut the fuck up retard

>>17314663
for one she didn't understand that the profit was a gain. she thought the 90k profit was a loss since she put in 250k

>>17314676
Why does he has a jap background?

>>17314684
Dew it

>>17314663
she wants her gta stock to go to the moon

>>17314628
I'm surprised you have the braincells to even breathe.

>>17314728
he did a collab where he and some friends competed to make clickbait thumbnails. that was one of them

>>17314663
She didn't understand what profit meant.

>>17314707
Nah, she didn't read that it's "profit" she reads that as "money"
trust me
t.ADHD

>>17314728
Hell do i know am just shitposting.

>>17314684
>>17314704
Nta but it is compared to the other polls we've seen

>>17314776
>put japanese thumbnail on video
>Susan instantly culls you
NARUHODONE

>>17314684
>>17314704
Is it supposed to be lower?

>>17314846
Susan is riceist

>>17314838
40% in one minute is super fast but impossibl to be sure unless she let it run for a little longer where we get like 5min and 90% participation..

>>17314846
>>17315009
STOP ASIAN HATE

>>17314628
Nah, not even close. 40% engagement in under a minute is absurd. We aren't going to see the 100% engagement in under a minute we saw before because this strand of CCVID isn't as strong as the early January strand, but she is still being culled quite a bit.

Unfortunately the strand not being as strong as the original makes it less likely that youtube will actually fix it since the culls aren't as extreme.

>>17315129
I honestly wouldn't even be mad if Susan just murdered numbers equally on all channels. But not only are twitch vtubers getting uppity with their unculled numbers, there's fucking unculled youtube vtubers too.

>>17313575
>She doesn't care about hololive.
>5%
>She hates hololive
>Deadbeats are antis

>>17315129
Personally I didn't vote because I don't know anything about the GTA stocks and the amount they cap out at

>>17310193
wallow in irrelevance for 2 years until you get a shill collab with akupeko?

Linus mogged.

Hinano destroying Nijisanji on her own.

>>17314989
Average poll participation on youtube streams of anything over 3view is less than 20% of CCV after 5 minutes. extremely high is 30% after 5 minutes.
Any time a poll reaches 30% in under that time is potentially suspicious, but especially if it already beats that in under 1 minute and most certainly would have hit 70-100%+ participation in 5 minutes.
For comparison the biggest most popular twitch streamers struggle to get higher than 25% participation, and anything over 50% is basically impossible for them in 5 mins.

>>17315602
>2619 for the NijiHomo when zhangs aren't awake to boost him
kek

>>17315748
Literally worse than Sana had till after she was over ~6 hours in to her playthrough.

>>17313785
>be youtube
>have completely fake and biased discovery
>confused at why no one streams on the platform

>>17315657
Didn't Watame have a poll recently? Wasn't it ~80% in 5 mins?
Everyone is getting culled but more so on EN's side this time around.

>Backstreet boys comes on
>Gura sings along
how much did the CCV go up?

>>17315748
>Zhang boosting rrat
Based on their viewership trends and where the majority of their superchats are coming from I'm actually beginning to believe this rrat.

Do I need to take meds or is there something here?

NijiEN can't still break the 7k viewer cap.
Males did nothing at all in this regard.

>>17316086
It's not completely baseless cause the numbers support this theory.

>>17316086
It's been pretty much confirmed most of their views and donations come from Japan/China iirc

>>17316079
+300 almost exactly, she went from 16300-400 to 16700.

17k get, I guess

>>17316079
17k get because of jojofags

>>17316079
None
She's capped at 16k

>>17316372
I mean, they were already there, it's not like there's roaming packs of jojofags that somehow learn she's playing a song for 20 seconds. Just classic tab culling bullshit.

>>17316029
That was while people were still filtering in (Polls early on can be a bit iffy, and she peaked much much higher than when the poll was taken).
For context, Miko poll, ARK, several minutes in.
Where viewership was stable, got a little under 1/3rd in 3 minutes. THAT is unculled.

Holos are just way too strong for Nijisanji.
Nijis were the kings at this time slot a year ago but they were driven back by the Holos and Vspo girls now.
Nijisanji has really declined.

>>17316532
>VSPO
kek maybe next year

Holos and friends just decimating Nijisanji at noon.

>>17316099
NA hours

>>17316480
Why do they cull Gura?

>>17316682
Fucking Flare is matching Gura!? The fuck is this?

>>17313465
God damn, Doogs death was greatly exaggerated. Top 10 with only 8 streams, I kneel.

>>17316745
power of gacha

>>17316690
It's not gura-specific. It's users, and EN happened to do a fucking relay with the Kimonos that re-culled a bunch of people. Jp hasn't had a 'big relay event' like the christmas relay since people got UNFLAGGED, but the mechanism in place is still fucking people's ACCOUNTS up. THAT is where the culling is happening. People get flagged for "delayed verification" which means they don't show up on the CCV for 24-48 fucking hours.

>>17316480
Tbf people watch ARK only for interactions with other holomens, they don't care about the dogshit game

>>17311321
Her sales on music weren't amazing in the past that seems high.

>>17316745
gacha collab

>>17316788
That makes sense
Council is in the shitter because of that

>>17316885
Pretty much. No way the Council Male stream was a mere 17k. That shit's got half a million VOD views.
Kronii sanic shoulda punched near 20k too.

fucking Gura, open your SC! I want to throw money! be more numberfag this year please!

>>17316851
As a reference, Towa currently has 4816 sales on her EP.

>>17316936
it was at least 30k

>>17316745
Chumbuds need to storm Youtube and demand they repair her views. This looks very bad if the top vtuber can only get this much views.

>>17316957
Retard they cant monetize GTA.

>>17316957
You baiting? It's a rockstar game, they don't have SCs on for those. Gura has never turned off superchats for no reason.

>>17316797
Yea, but that sort of poll interaction is what I would call 'normalish' for Hololive. If miko's watchers were culled, they'd be culled a little bit at most at that point since, that poll% interaction is definitely 'normal' for the timeframe.

>>17316957
>new IP
>retarded newfag
name a better duo

Ratna's stream is showing some weirdness. The displayed CCV keeps going up and down pretty rapidly.

>Gura inches closer and closer to JP hours
>Views increase
hmmmmmmmmmmm

Hinano is just too strong for the Nijis despite playing Valorant.
In this week alone, we've seen Sumire, Noah, Hinano dominating Nijisanji and presumably we can expect the same performance from Nose and Runa.
I wonder if Ema and Nazuna could accomplish this in solo too? We know Nazuna could easily got 25k on major collabs.

Seeing Gura reaching new peak after almost streaming for 3 hours is a hella weird experience.

>>17316999
Don't know how you're getting these numbers, anon.

>>17317126
nah the weirdest part of this stream was this part

16.9 down to 14k, now 17k at last. This graph is going to be interesting. Fucking SUsan

>>17317107
You a newfag or something? That's a natural graph for Apex streams.

>>17317120
Still couldn’t take on niji’s big guns

>>17317158
It's working off the basis that the booth shop has 10k stock initially, and that you can 'fish' for the remaining stock by adding it all to your cart til you get an error.
If you can add only 2k stock, it means 8k has already sold.

>>17317162
Yea, that's completely wack, Susan wtf?

>>17315602
>>17316086
Hinano's big incline last year came in part from her interactions with Kamito in OreApo. The latent shipper audience is a big one and this is the same draw that Luxiem have.

>>17317126
But why? Pekora last DQ stream peaked after 6:30 hr mark.

>>17317255
You can check remaining stock on the page itself using web dev tool.
Hololive sets a 10k stock on product and 100k stock on voice packs.

>>17316788
Theres no proof for any of this btw.

>>17316745
That's what heavy recline does to your shark. Good old justice for hardworking JP chuuba.

>>17317110
Gura is really popular in JP but they almost never able to catch her live
Except NEETs maybe
Bulk of Holofags are Salarymen tho

>>17317350
Because Gura normally peaks around 1 hour mark and there is no other streams funnel viewers to her unlike that Pekora's DQ iirc.

>>17317350
Uh, because Gura's main viewership is concentrated in basically a 2 hour NA primetime slot, she always starts at the peak hours, and then always kinda falls out afterwards. Peko (and JP holos) have basically all day to cater to all flavors of JOP stuff, and what you described there is Pekora starting early and peaking near JP primetime.

>>17317331
Lux whatever has nothing on Kamito though.
NijiEN males are still running with debut buffs on. Vox and that other fag already somewhat lost theirs. The trend shows they're following the same trajectory as Edengumi.

>>17317497
Yeah that's what I was hinting at. That JP viewers can incline her stream far easier than culled NA ones.

>>17317350
Simply because she started way out of JP primetime, so it makes sense she'd peak later.
>>17317331
The thing you have to be careful about is that you don't drive off an existing audience when you do that. For those who are smaller, it's really an issue, but when you're already of a good size, the risks...

>>17314057
>flatlines for a while at 15k
>then rises to 16k
>flatlines at 16k for a while
>then a sudden tip to 14k, followed immediately by a sharp rise to 15k, quick plateau, then a sharper rise to 16k, where she's currently at another plateau

What in the flying fuck is this graph?

>>17317244
who

JP Holos are going live
Gura is getting mogged

>>17317783
Nijisanji Official Channel

>>17317470
Oh, web dev tools. Pfft. That shouldn't be publicly viewable info usually.
>>17317474
Several anons have tested 0-view streams with -no account-, -old accounts (with premium)-, -(accounts without premium)-, -(new accounts)-.
No accounts always counted for a stream, an old account with premium COULD count if they hadn't been flagged, but the instant they were flagged they stopped counting in real time for ANYTHING.
There's proof of the delayed verification from Hal, Selene, and some indies as well. Youtube THEMSELVES have responded with this 'delayed verification' note too.
So unless you're going to say Youtube, Hal, Selene AND several people who have tested are all completely untrustworthy, I don't know what else to tell you.
The only thing that's speculative is that relays have a heavy effect on it, and that's speculation based on the fact the culling started to become very noticeable after the Hololive karaoke relay on Christmas (and that this is could be mistaken by some errant AI as 'bot' behavior).

>>17317497
>>17317563
Delusional chumfag need to stop huffing copium. Look at how many JP destroy her in CCV and SC. It's obvious that she is not popular.

down to 15k now 16k again, what do you want Susan? just say it

Queen usada getting mogged again by reddit duck.....

Dr Disrespect regularly pulls 25-32k and has the same vod views as Gura for quadruple length streams.

>>17317559
Kamito is an open Nijifag and Lauren gets better avg CCV than anyone in VSPO

>>17317934
I genuinely think channel region is a huge part of this problem

>>17317868
>It's obvious that she is not popular
Probably one of the stupid things you can possibly say about the world's most popular vtuber.

>>17317994
I think some anon pointed out that ad sense requires your region to be in the taxed area so it wont get changed for the holos.

>>17318007
kizuna ai?

>>17317994
I genuinely do not see why this would ever be the case. Why would youtube region lock their fucking verification system? It's pure insanity and it should be hitting NA streamers just as badly since I doubt a large chunk of their viewers are NA either.

Holos and friends just flat out destroying Nijisanji with little to no resistance.
Hololive is just so good at developing new talents.
1 Gen 0, 1 Gen 2, 2 Gen 3, 1 Gen 6 and 1 EN 1 are currently dominating at this time. The other night, Gen 5 took turns in destroying these Nijis.
Nijisanji completely failed to expand their audience share.

>>17318087
Originally it was because they were going after cryptofags hijacking accounts to scam people iirc
And all those were being used with JP accounts.

>>17318087
The whole CCV manipulation (supposedly) is trying to reduce the view counts of those crypto scam pajeet coin streams that use Elon Musk's face or whatever. So it wouldn't be surprising if they filter out views from foreign areas.

>>17318007
>Most popular Vtuber
>can't beat Subaru (a mid tier Holo) CCV rumao

>>17318123
I don't think I've seen Haruka above 1k since koshien

>>17317941
Kamito's oshi is Kanae while Hal is a big Gura fanatic. What's your point?

>>17318123
>b....but Vox, Ike, Mysta!!!

Try streaming now fags, let's see... At least Shu grinds

>>17318152
>break your entire streaming platform to deal with some pajeets you can just have an intern manually ban
This is Cover tier incompetence

>>17318087
It's the BOT countermeasure. Your memory reps, anon.

>>17318123
>ars amal
was she the one that debuted her 3D around Botan debut stream?

>>17318007
I don't see her "popularity" reflected in CCV or SC. The amount of copium from
>Muh most popular vtuber in the world
Come back when you have some tangible numbers to proof she is popular. Stop living in the past

>>17318087
I don't think it's a lock, it must be something retarded, my guess it's a stupid networking algorithm that misses the margin to report the verify confirmation packet because it needs to be re-routed to the server of the origin of the channel

>>17318228
Pretty average performance for youtube.

>>17318060
Nah, it's ZilverK.

>>17318239
>Come back when you have some tangible numbers to proof she is popular.
Kek looks like the /jp/ schizos are up and ranting about muh ccv

>>17317994
>>17318032
>>17318087
What region are the NijiEN boys' channels listed under, out of curiousity? I wonder if their viewership skewing extremely heavily to the Asian region (off of quick memory, I think it was Mysta's birthday stream that had 35 North American superchats compared to well over 400 from Taiwan, HK, Japan, Indonesia, Singapore, etc.) is part of why they seemed so immune to the "culling" both last time and this time.

>>17318239
>Casually ignores the fact that she has 2 vods below 300k views in the past 8 months
>B-but she’s not popular!!!

>>17318475
Japan

>>17318475
Japan

>biting VERY OBVIOUS bait
Were your past lifes fishes? Reincarnation didn't help your intelligence, that's for sure.

>>17318475
You can check by looking in "about".

>>17318239
Is this among the most popular youtuber in the world, faggot?
No, it's just indog being watched by indogs
Local CCV is easier to be earned

>>17318573
*Grabs the hook
GIMME THAT

>>17318207
Shibuya Hal openly admitted that without Kanae’s help he wouldn’t be as well known as today. What’s your point?

>>17318479
The fact you chumfags need to keep reducing the minimum VOD views from 500k to 400k to now 300k is laughable. Keep it up.

>>17318577
>>17318475
I wonder if location skews the ccv. Shu also had Japan as his location, but his ccv is shit. Selen doesn't seem to have a specific location, but she could reach 8k on NA time. Gura is most likely popular in the US, but her Japan location skews her ccv even more.

Subaru is not doing any debuff content for the past few months isn't she.

>>17318602
That a VSPO girl is demolishing Nijisanji right now no matter who you try to deflect it.

>>17318637
The last month she had a minimum of 400k was January 2021, so I doubt anyone ever used that language and said 500k/400k in this thread. Are you sure you're not just off your meds, or thinking of "average" instead of minimum?

>>17318725
Considering Tim the Tatman/Dr Disrespect have almost entirely US audiences and get high numbers 25k+ it might be legitimate.

>>17318784
>Considering Tim the Tatman/Dr Disrespect have almost entirely US audiences

Proof?

>>17318736
You jinxed it
Should’ve just stopped after posting it once

>>17318897
Almost all the donations they receive are in dollars, chatters/donators talk about american euphemisms and american football and only rarely have I ever heard a donation from a euro. I haven't seen their analytics but its for sure a higher percentage of americans then vtubers.

>>17318773
And Pekora has an average of 700k
Where's your "most popular Vtuber Gawr Gura" now

>>17318897
Ludwig/Valkyrae and other convert twitch streamers doesn't seem to get culled. HoloEN got hit the hardest somehow, and the only plausible conclusion is due to their Japan location

>>17318941
Hinano is already tired after raping your Niji whores for 6 hours straight. Let her rest, anon.

>>17318986
For Tim he also uh...makes a living discussing US politics and news. I'm not saying there aren't many people interested in that shit outside the US for some reason, but applying some logic, most ARE from US.

>>17319043
>CCVID cope again
Just accept that people have gotten bored of Hololive's safe and boring content and have moved on to Niji

>>17319012
Pekers is at 440k though.

>>17319012
Is this retard starting a time loop again?

>>17319091
> Move to Niji
Niji has been on decline for the past three months. You need to wake up. It's not 2019 anymore.

>>17319098
Its because someone is biting the obvious bait.

>>17318941
He shouldn't have posted it at all. Neither stream got near 10k and VSPO shares a large amount of their audience with Nijisanji. Why bother forcing a competition?

>>17319012
>700k average
Lol

So is there anyone who will challenge subaru this day?

Oh its the VOD loop again
Lets speedrun this
>total
>but average
>but Ayame
>but doesn't count
>cope
>seethe
Done, moving on