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17255230 No.17255230 [Reply] [Original]

Cover is being very short sited with their collab bans.
Vtubing growth as a whole has stagnated.
Even if NijiEN is their competition, it would be in their best interest to collab to try to expand the genre.
Also Pomu, come home.

>> No.17255560

Collabs within the vtuber sphere do nothing to vtubing growth. The key here should be cross-community outreach, like tapping other large fanbases and attracting new viewers.

>> No.17255643

NijiEN was the one who shot it down.
Kiara has said as much.
>Filename
Fuck off, Dramatourist.

>> No.17255707

>>17255643
Still pushing that narrative huh?

>> No.17255752

Can't one of them just host a twitter space and have the other join in to work around the ban

>> No.17255797

>>17255560
Pretty much this. A corpo collab wouldn't really expand the audience beyond those who are already insterested in vtubers. They'd have to do what everyone on /vt/ feared. They'd have to collab with a male, a real one at that. Also, trying new things. Pretty much the cross-media thing that Hololive is doing but a little more focused instead of being spread apart like what Hololive is doing.

>> No.17255813

>>17255230
Another begging thread, another Nijinigger, another ESL OP, trash bait

>> No.17255921

>>17255813
And your retarded ass bit the fucking fishing rod.

>> No.17256019

>>17255230
>Please please save my Pomu

>> No.17256204

>>17255560
Pretty much, especially between HoloEN and the NijiEN girls, since they share a considerable amount of audience already, it would be a bit more productive if it was with the guys, but good luck with making that happen.

>> No.17256292

>>17255643
>Kiara has said as much.
She didn't. Neither side said who shot it down, but if you think logically and in a business sense, it makes more sense for Hololive to shut it down, and not Nijisanji, who could use the exposure.

>> No.17256338

>>17255921
No holo want to see toxic faggots like you in chat. That's the real reason of no collab

>> No.17256641

>Cover Cover Cover
It's always the same thing. What're the other corps, hot air?
Why not have NijiEN take the first step and collab with Tsunderia/Cyberlive/Phase Connect, especially if it's for the sake of 'expanding the genre'

>> No.17256680

>>17255230
pomu will die alone and so will you

>> No.17256734

>>17256641
NijiEN interact and collab with small corpos, where have you been?

>> No.17256806

>>17255707
Not him but it make more sense NijiEN blocking it than Cover blocking it. Wasn't a SelenxOllie collab also blocked? We already know HoloID management have no problem having their talents collabing with Nijisanji.

>> No.17256851
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17256851

hate orange woman
simple as

>> No.17256946

>>17256806
Explain your reasoning behind why NijiEN would block it. What would NijiEN have to lose by having a collab?

>> No.17257139

>>17256338
I know youre extremely stupid, but I guess it still hurts to fall for such obvious bait. Call me whatever you want, as long as itll help you cope with how retarded you are.

>> No.17257163

>>17256946
Why would Cover block it? Cover has allowed collabs with their direct competition, Vshoujo.

>> No.17257254

>>17257163
nice cope

>> No.17257356

>>17256946
I don't know, I agree it doesn't make sense but they're the one who having a hard time collaborating anyone with Hololive. HoloID have collab with NijiID all the time before so they have no reason to refuse NijiEN. Same with HoloJPxNijiJP, the only odd ball is HoloEN & NijiEN. If NijiEN can't even collab with HoloID without issues of course I going to think the issue lie within NijiEN management.

>> No.17257597

>>17257254
Answer why the Selen x Ollie collab was shot down. Cover lets their Id branch collab with whoever they want. Ollie frequently calls in to holostars has called in to Ironmouse streams and collabs with whoever indie she wants no matter how coomer they are. Nijisanji is the one PAYING random react streamers to react to their talent and also paying clip channels to clip them too.

>> No.17257644

>>17257163
NijiEN is HoloEN's direct competition on the same platform. The branch and talents are also relatively new, and Cover would be stupid to give spotlight to a new competitor. Additionally (and I know people will shitpost about this), but HoloEN and NijiEN streams are somewhat similar in format.
Comparatively, Vshoujo is not direct competition, as they are on a different platform, their (big, important) talents have been around longer than HoloEN, and their streaming format is widely different than that of HoloEN/NijiEN.

>>17257356
HoloJP-NijiJP and HoloID-NijiID collabs predate HoloEN's existence, and all of those branches are relatively well-known and established in their respective regions by now. When you look at the EN "region", it's dominated by HoloEN - it would be stupid of Cover to put spotlight on their new competition in the same region (NijiEN), especially since they are still not yet an established name. It would make logical business sense for Cover to not put any focus on their new competition.

>> No.17257689

No Yagoo, pomu is no longer your property. Accept defeat.

>> No.17257747

>>17256680
No she won't, and probably.

>> No.17257752

>>17257597
>Nijisanji is the one PAYING random react streamers to react to their talent and also paying clip channels to clip them too.
I dont see how this is relevant to your argument. If anything, this just shows the willingness of NijiEN management to get their name out there. Which isnt a bad thing, considering how big of a hold HoloEN has on the market.

>> No.17257890

>>17255560
Pewds gonna cuck you weebs so bad. He ain’t even into vtubers but we can all be sure your oshis are gonna throw themselves at him and his viking cock.

>> No.17258036

>>17257644
>their (big, important) talents have been around longer than HoloEN
This. It wouldve been a REALLY BAD decision on HoloENs part to shut down any collabs with VShoujo considering how theyve had a foothold on the western market for much longer. VShoujo isnt a threat and it will never be. Its a potential partner to further corner the audience.

>> No.17258082

>>17255230
Still talking about Mori deadbrap, she has a problem she literally said "drankies" on Bae's stream
ON BAE'S STREAM

>> No.17258156

>>17256851
Didn't Kiara literally rape and expose the pink cat during this stream?

>> No.17258184

>>17255230
>sited
Fucking esl kek

>> No.17258191

>>17257752
So you pay for ads on youtube, then pay twitch streamers to check you out on youtube, then pay clippers to get people to check you out on youtube. Then you collab with HoloEN and the normies you attracted jump ship.

>> No.17258752 [DELETED] 

>>17257597
>Nijisanji is the one PAYING random react streamers to react to their talent and also paying clip channels to clip them too
Fans are doing this, they learned it from Holofags.

>> No.17258813

>>17257597
>Nijisanji is the one PAYING random react streamers to react to their talent
Fans are doing this, they learned it from Holofags.

>> No.17258839

>>17256851
Nyanners has every right to ghost you faggots. No woman should have to suffer being near and interacting with losers like you lot.

>> No.17258902

Holos begging again...

>> No.17258921

>>17257597
The answer why the Selen x Ollie collab was cancelled is pretty simple. Selen is a chink

>> No.17258977
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17258977

>>17255230
>NijiEN
>The branch backed by zhang
Rumao no wonder Holo's management avoids them like a plague.

>> No.17259057

>>17258977
That starts off right out the gates as schizo babble.
There is no proof, only speculation.

>> No.17259125

>>17258191
Dont talk about shit you dont understand, kiddo.

>normies
How long have you been on the internet? Have you heard of YouTube and how horrifyingly accurate and targeted their advertisements are? If people were going to get vtuber ads, it would be people whove watched vtubers.

Those Twitch streamers they "paid", who were they again? Oh, people who react to vtuber clips? With an audience who watches vtubers? Sounds like a good idea to reach out to them despite their roots obviously in watching Hololive clips.

And I dont even know why you considered adding clippers on there when Nijisanji hires their own clippers to post on their main channel.

Again, dont talk about shit you dont understand.

>normies you attracted jump ship
Thats assuming theres a difference in quality between HoloEN and NijiEN, which is subjective. Also, if youve heard about NijiEN, then youve DEFINITELY heard about HoloEN, simple as

>> No.17259176

>>17259057
Lol right after people found out about this, NijiEN's numbers as a whole immediately reclined to the point that even put together, their total viewers peaked at 7k.

>> No.17259211

>>17257890
This would have worked if he wasn't a married man who takes no flirting shit from females, nice try tho.

>> No.17259236

>>17259176
You are literally being a schizo.
Schizos creates patterns in their head without actual proof.
Until you find some credible, leaked document, you are going on a schizo tirade.

>> No.17259259

>>17259176
Then why did Vox break 10k in his stream this morning?

>> No.17259282

>>17258977
This is what happens when you dont take your meds. Dont be like this anon

>>17259057
Dont reply to numberfags, their brainrot is literally far too gone.

>> No.17259329

>>17259259
>inb4 "ZHANG ZHANG ZHANG"

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17259335

>>17258977

>> No.17259353

>>17259259
Zhangs.

>> No.17259435

>>17259176
Okay schizo. Why didn't Holo management green light anything months before wave four was a thing? Zhang support?

>> No.17259445
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17259445

Kiara is so fucking cringy and unfunny. She is an anchor to HoloMyth dragging it down, and the numbers show that. She should just graduate and her roommate should go back to vlogging on her own channel.

>> No.17259570
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17259570

>>17258977
>They actually went full schizo
Goddamn I don't think numberfags can be saved anymore...

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17259916

>>17259176
>this happens, and this happened, and this happened..
>that means this is a Chinese conspiracy
Pic related is you.

>> No.17260180

>>17255230
>short sited [sic]
>stagnated
>best interest
People that LARP as business/industry analysts on this shithole are the worst. You've never even run a lemonade stand. Stop the cringe.

>> No.17260411

>>17260180
What a compelling and thought provoking post. You've really shown your intellect and refuted all the points in the OP.

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