/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17207978
I've yet to find an indie that matchs up to my corpo oshi

no

>>17207978
Nijisanji IS the third position between Hololive and Vshojo, for EN anyway

>>17207978
Sorry anon, I'm into small corpos

Watched countless indies and none of them are remotely as entertaining as my Holo oshi, sorry.

>>17207978
Would be nice. (pic related) really makes me wish I understood nip.

>dude don't watch these, watch a shittier imitation
enjoy your bootlegs I guess

>>17208042
This, the issue is most indies are super overcompensating tryhard going "WE'RE NOT LIKE THOSE CORPO CHUUBAS SEE I'M A STRONK WOMYN, FUCK EVERYTHING THAT MADE THIS MEDIUM POPULAR" and are even way-further from what anyone looking for a Hololive alternative (heh) would want.

>>17208354
Based

>>17208546
Also most indies are hyper zoomers or demi-zoomers I love my hag oshi and no one in the indie filed delievers the same expirence

>>17208726
Does your hag pretend she is an idol as a marketing gimmick?

>>17208546
Stop passing over small corpos then. There are generals for Holo alternatives on this board.

>>17208774
Nope lmao she can barely sing does occasional fanservice and will probably die of liver failure

>>17207978
Jokes on you Ui mama is an honorary holo

>>17208873
I do like the trash bear on occasion but as a rule I never oshi an EN

>>17208546
vTweeters aren't vTubers. Few indies that actually stream run their mouth like that and usually will kiss Hololives ass for a chance to get in later.

>>17207978
>please watch my literal who 2view
No

>>17208354
>Oh gosh

>>17208873
I'd agree for some but it's a toss up overall. Sure most of them are trying to be appropriate and then you have Luto, Nonon, and Pippa being as degenerate as possible.
I just like them because I like seeing them grow as a group, and the sense of accountability towards their friends means they're less likely to get into drama and act like fucking idiots, unless it's Pippa.

>>17209278
I've heard that pippa is unironically racist is this true?

>>17208546
Take meds.

>>17207978
Indies stay independent because they're too lazy to stream. Any girl with a passable work ethic gets snapped up by corpos and polished into diamonds.
Also I hate seeing how they're groomed from predebut up. If you're not part of the "in group" before she even starts steaming you're never going to be given the same attention.

>>17209655
Still more retarded takes.

>>17207978
Anon...

>>17209655
Am I seriously reading this shit? You idiots can't go two days without crying about how Sana/Mumei/Kronii/Ayame don't stream.

Shill your favourite indie now

>>17209926
you are now kneeling manually

>>17209926
Nina Saotome is a very strong indie vtuber with a sexy voice and a great sense of humor

>>17209655
I'm sure I can find an EN indie that works a job and does streaming part time and still streams more than a lot of people in Holo EN.

Indies are bigger whores than corpos

>>17209926
Bearcat supremacy

>>17207978
>hot looking oni girl
tell me the name you fuck

Because indie scene is even more virulently anti-male than Holo as it's caught between misandrist tranny SJWtards and more conventional parasocial unicorns
Try disabuse me of this notion and I might consider

>>17210688
https://twitter.com/AkumiOni

>>17210726
Holy shit I might go indie I hate male chubbas your all a bunch of two view fags who are seething over nijiEN success anyway

>>17210726
vtubing in general is not made for male collabs
find a different hobby

dumbass

>>17207978
Yocchi's not an indie.

no one's interesting enough or on the level of corpos

maybe uto and ririsya

>>17209926
based cunny tiger!

>>17207978
I want to see her fucking her big dog

>>17210726
>Because indie scene is even more virulently anti-male than Holo as it's caught between misandrist tranny SJWtards and more conventional parasocial unicorns
Are you retarded? Half of these girls stream with their boyfriends or male discord clique.

>>17215375
she's quite literally an indie
Vyugen isn't a company, it's literally just a friend group

no

Someone post the dumpling boyfriend clip.

>>17207978
In the event this thread is serious and anyone actually is interested in indies, we've got a new-ish general called /lig/ from the last 3 days or so for discussing larger (twitch partner or youtube equivalent) indie vtubers. >>17215920 The general for anyone interested.

>>17209848
>>17210326
The only difference between a good chuuba and a bad chuuba is whether she streams.

My 2view oshi is married after she became a vtuber
with other vtuber even

>>17207978
I will never be able to watch a chuuba that reads the shit I type in her chat

>>17210688
Yoclesh

A lot of cucks ITT...

>>17207978
Indies do the "Yeah we are Indies we are free" too much to the point they become annoying try hards, like chill dude just do what you like to do no need to prove a point every single stream

>>17207978
being a hololive fag, it was kind of weird to watch indie streamers and they will openly talking about bfs and real life because that's the culture on twitch. i didn't think I was an idolfag, but I think I'll stick to hololive with their enforced kayfabe

>>17209432
It's not she's just pandering

Is there a single one in any of these companies or indie that’s actually, you know, a competent streamer? I only follow this shit via curated clips because the actual streams are unbearable. Totally behind the times. Schedules, fictional characters, managers - what is this, TV? Honestly seems like most of these girls miss the entire appeal of streaming: authenticity and interaction. The first is already lost with all the bullshit, the second is restricted to reading super chats once in a blue moon.
And the actual streaming content is super outdated too, mostly being bad at games while screaming a bunch aka what got old with pewdiepie like 10 years ago.

>>17221134
Anyone who is a semi-decent streamer, which means putting an effort into mantaining a schedule and interacting with her audience, has as a good chance at making it in any of the small indie corporations, or even Niji or Holo's EN branches. It seems that most indie idols don't really understand "vtuber culture" enough to thrive in the niche.

>>17221256
My complaints extend to most of the big streamers too. I dunno, it feels like most of the vtuber fans weren’t really into streaming before it got an anime coat of paint and are putting up with shit content.


Then again a bunch of the biggest rl streamers are drama farmers or the cringeworthy Minecraft rp crowd, so maybe I’m just a cranky boomer.

>>17207978
Vtubers need strict management to stop them from ruining their image.
You won't get a better example of this than Mori.
Of course, if you have no image to maintain like Vshojo/Nijisanji then it's whatever but there's a reason why Hololive is king.

>>17221327
You'd be right about that, but I think there's a pretty clear distinction between vtubing and other types of streaming in expectations and content. I don't watch regular streamers, for me the worst indies are the ones that feel like regular streamers with an anime coat of paint.

>>17221134
Nah, you're the one who just doesn't get it.
Vtubing isn't just streaming with an anime avatar; it's bringing an anime character to life.
Faggots like you that jump on a fad without understanding it just because it's popular and then complain that it doesn't appeal to you are like cockroaches.

>>17221874
I’d expect a real life anime character to produce less boring content

>>17207978
Most indies are shit and make it quite clear that they detest vtubing, and the only reasons they're doing it is because they believe it will grant them easy money and fame. I'd rather stick with Holo and Niji.

>>17207978
nah

>>17222102
simply watch good indies

>>17207978
I'm tired of onis, I'm tired of succubi, I'm tired of animal ears.

>>17207978
>stop watching the NBA, start watching the Filipino basketball league

>>17224239
>good indies

>>17215668
Name 5

>>17208537
i love my scripted corpo chuuba's minecraft streams

>>17224383
You're not supposed to strengthen OP's argument

>>17207978
She has a boyfriend

>>17224889
Based thirdworldist

>>17224903
They all have boyfriends, one is just contractually obligated to say they don't and heavily imply lesbian only relationships with their fellow chuubas.

>>17224945
Well, maybe if women had the common sense to separate their private and public/professional lives without contractual obligation than indie chuubas would be a bit more sought after.

>>17208378
Good morning sirs
>>17208546
>>17208726
I don't know what kind of chuubas you're watching, but the 1-2view chuubas I've watched are nothing like that. If anything you're just letting a couple of them tarnish your general image of indies.
>>17209926
Pic related or her
https://youtu.be/0ye2OzKYkgw

>>17208546
Watch Fallenshadow

>>17207978
Can you recommend me some good indies that don’t have any boyfriends? NijiEN and HoloEN are all two timing whores.

>>17227037
SquChan, she has a husband.

>>17227329
Even worse, she has been blacklisted

>>17207978
no one's interesting

I for one enjoy watching HoloEN play Pokemon for 1000 hours. I like it because they have lots of dead subscribers which tells me they are a quality product.

>>17207978
I'm too emotionally invested in my oshi to ever stop watching her (unless she does something like Mori). I won't go to indies for parasocial relationships because I can affect them with my obsession, with bigger chuubas everything you say or do will get lost in a sea of comments, my love can be as obsessive as I want without affecting anyone but myself

>>17215750
And even if they turn it into a company
would not be a talent company anyways

>>17207978
no

>>17229410
Meds

They lack the ever evolving lore that only genmates, kouhais and senpais can bring.

>>17229410
Sadly there are a lot of people like you.
You're an insecure person.
You're not sure what is entertaining and what is not, even for yourself, so you choose to follow the mob.
The more time you spend watching them, the more you know your standard and someday you'll find some other chuubas that you think is more suitable for you, usually not the popular one.

>>17209278
>hi honey~
>degrade me
>bukkake
>drink my milk
>degrading you
>cbt
>step bro
>mommy
>oppai
>touch me
>milkies
>hentai
hmm I wonder why I avoid small corpos

i'll take the indiepill when someone shows me a cute, actually entertaining jap girl who streams enough for her to be my main source of stream entertainment, but doesn't have more than 20 viewers. She should be willing to continue streaming even if she doesn't become a huge vtuber, and have an easy to understand voice a-la okayu or watame.
please go ahead and recommend all 0 people who fit these criteria.

>>17207978
I like that one's design. what's her name and is she worth watching ?

>>17207978
>Why are you still letting yourself get cucked by Hololive and Nijisanji? There is a third option. Take the indiepill.
I watch Holo, Indies and small corpos.

>>17221489
>Vtubers need strict management to stop them from ruining their image

>>17226887
>pic
I want to adopt her and protect her adorable gremlin laugh. No lewd, just want her to be happy.

>>17207978
Based

>>17207978
You just know.

>>17207978
I like my indies, there's a lot of them and some of them are cool

>>17209926
smol bird chuuba, i've never been cursed with the opportunity to look back

>>17208354
Based, I love her Oh gosh and Oh geezs. She’s truly one of the most wholesome and comfy vtubers

>>17207978
I used to watch indie girls Vtuber until someday their voice changer broke and reveal a male voice.
so no fucking way again indies.
Small copro >>>>>>>> Indies

>>17255967
>copro

>>17207978
keep coping

>>17207978
they are not my girlfriends wtf??

>>17235427
Nene amano exists how did you manage to miss this?

>>17262946
My bad thought you said it didn't matter if she's +20

No one is safe from the cuckenning

>>17207978
>get twitch thots instead
kek op, you didn't even bother thinking