/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17149623
your answer is there in you picture. Gura and Mumei and Gura Ark stream was peak kino.

>>17149623
>HoloEN
>chemistry
KEK good joke

>>17149980
Wanna read that again?

>>17149623
Its easy Twitchfags at their level all generally have the same personality and disposition or at least know how to fake it for the sake of collabs

Terraria stream would have been good if there was a council POV.

>>17149623
Because it wasn't forced by management so their interactions feel more natural.

>>17150101
you're really shittalking Pikamee? Honestly?

>>17149623
>Pikamee
>having chemistry in english

I do find it funny that these "friends" are nowhere to be seen in the upper thumbnail

>>17150137
>Pikamee
>Pick-a-bad friends
twitchthots, not even once.

>>17149623
Take a sip every time Mori says "my friends" on that stream. Bonus if you're sipping lean.

>>17150283
that's because the true friends are busy recording a podcast

>>17150137
Yeah and I'll shit talk any other twitch streamer you want as well they all collectively suck ass

>>17150101
so just like HoloEN

>>17150417
Nope I fucking hate EN it was a bigger mistake than twitch

>>17150394
>Rosemi
>>twitch
>Pikamee
>>twitch
ogey

>>17149623
Man stop, this just look so fucking sad

>>17149623
because hololive is a soulless japanese corporation where everything is crafted by marketing experts from the models to the character lore to the personality of the talent. Nothing is genuine, unlike indies who are just themselves and nothing is planned. Fuck corpos

>>17149623
It's not hard when you have to compete with a collab where 2 out of three girls are trying to interact with someone who is stoned high off of lean and doe snot know what's going on.

>>17149623
>with my FRIENDS!

>>17149623
>friends vs "friends"

Gura and Calli get along since both of them are closet sex perverts.

oi vey was terraria that bad? I skipped it because it seemed like a shit idea from the start.

>>17151801
Unironically it got better once Mori left, so for the last 10 minutes.

>>17151872
lol

>>17149623
Can't be bothered to show her friends in the thumbnail.
Checks out.

>>17149623
The thumbnail speaks volumes. One actually cared enough to put the others in there. The other only promotes herself.

>>17150498
https://www.twitch.tv/pikameeamano
Ogey

>>17149623
Because your'e a seething nijinigger.

>>17153474
https://www.twitch.tv/moricalliope_hololiveen
ogey

>>17149623
>more chemistry than the carefully orchestrated HoloEN management stunt?
Because Mori is an awkward, unsociable weirdo and the only one who has chemistry with her is Ina (who you can pair up with anyone) and she's currently choking on her throat.

>>17149623
How is it possible, you ask?
You answered it yourself:
>carefully orchestrated
>HoloEN
>management

>>17151451
idk anon im pretty sure there would be highjinks if they were close enough friends

>>17150394
bro you're so cool. i wish i can be badass and don't give a fuck like you. fuck these bitches, right bro?

>>17153760
Yes, because talking to two girls at princess tea party about drinking hard liquor and getting black out drunk is not going to creep people out. I don't think you understand how bad things really are.

>>17150394
>5 rupees has been deposited to your Punjab National Bank account

>>17149623

>>17149623
>with my friends
>only her in the thumbnail
Poetry

>>17155016
Caucasity

>>17153563
And I fucking hate Mori and EN too see >>17150440

>>17154287
>He must be Indian because he dislikes Twitch.
Fuck off faggot don't you have global ripeperonies or some other fagshit emote to spam while a thot milks literal 12 year olds for their moms savings?

>>17153563
Pikamee actually does stream on Twitch a lot now. Have you not been watching her?

>>17149623
>It's a "IronMouse is high as fuck" episode

>>17149623
As someone who actually watched the EN stream, I will just make a correction that you meant Myth.
>the Council were often together, talking and helping each other in whatever was going on(sadly no stream pov on their side)
>Mori, Ame and Gura were often going off by themselves, making the occasional comment on what they are doing

>>17155016
Gura also didn't have the others in the thumbnail but at least in the official Hololive schedule she did list them.

>>17155242
Why would anyone watch her now that she's revealed herself to be a twitch whore?

>>17149937
this. every gura + kronii/fauna/mumei stream is kino. gurame used to be kino but kinda faded out over time unfortunately, but still, theyre all comfortable around eachother. mori throws a wrench in this and makes everyone feel weird with her strained social-worker-talking-to-a-retard voice
>this is fun! im having Fun playing this game!

>>17149623
Because they are friends in their private lives. Just because some people work for the same company they are not necesseraly friends.

>>17149623
t. didnt watch it

>>17155959
(cont.) there has to be something seriously wrong with your social skills to like calli, if you had a normalfag listen to the audio of a calli stream theyd feel very uncomfortable, while i dont think the same would be the case with gura or most of the other holo ens (besides kiara and sana (kfps dont come after me, lately ive been getting into kiara but you have to admit her voice would be grating to most people at first))
i listen to calli and think "what the fuck is wrong with this person"

i love it when people who do not even watch holoEN try to talk shit

>>17151801
same as the first time they collab in minecraft really

take the nijipill bros.

>>17149623
Holo EN and chemistry don't belong in the same sentence

>>17155467
Wait why woudn't Gura join her three friends in council?

>>17151738
Gura tries to get along with everyone because she is desperate for friendships. She doesn't care if it's a bad person like Mori, a lazy unethical whore like Kronii or a girl who will never reciprocate her feelings like Ame.

>>17156401
Damn when you put it like that, she seems to have a lot in common with Kiara

>>17154806
Nice edit

>>17156471
and Ina

>>17156308
or alternatively know japanese and watch holo jp, just watched the subachocoluna stream and it was very fun
in general jps are much more comfortable around each other

Mori hit that lean too hard while Kronii was blazed out of her mind from some kush she bought earlier, you expect drugged up whores to do a good Collab?

>>17155959
>>17156122
dude seek help.

>>17156308
All Niji's collab with males and are thus unwatchable by default.

>>17149623
I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU
CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP

>>17156308
No Thanks, I stick to JP instead.

>>17156381
Well they stumbled upon each other several times and then later started to actually work together in the same direction.

>>17156308
Nijicope gets funnier by the day
As if being unpopular is somehow a good thing

>>17155959
read it in her voice, good one.

>>17156308
>Nijisanji section is twice as many words at the Hololive one
Yep, this is cope

>gets mugged CCV-wise
>lets talk about chemistry

kek

>>17156308
I'd rather have my oishi go indie or join VShojo than getting stuck in a 4 view hell while the management keeps jewing away her earnings without any benefits.

>>17156122
Agreed. It comes off almost as if watching one of those 'for kids' channels on youtube where they just sit around and play with toys. Sometimes the other Holo's can fall into the same pattern, but I've noticed and disliked it about every Mori collab. She doesn't bounve off the games well, doesn't generate chatter, and everything comes off stiff as fuck. The only positive is that she actually started to have a little more emotion in her voice during collabs around June/July.

>>17151801
I've only heard good things about it to be honest, but this is the designated anti thread so opinions are more likely to be negative. Haven't watched it myself because terraria is boring as hell.

>>17149623
because mori isn't really welcome or happy at hololive

niggersanji cope thread kek

just like and retweet your oshi's FUNNY discord chat

we're hear talking about chemistry, when your oshis are faking discord chat for the lul

Was gonna skip this one to be fair, even though my oshi was part of it, since Mori is a black hole in every conversations she is part of

>>17156308
>Muh nijicope
The replies from this post are so pathetic, holofags would rather blind themselves than see the truth before their eyes.
Btw some things to note, NijiEN is slightly different from every other branch in the company, they went for a holoJP plus males approach. Which EOPs would know if they watched streams.

>>17156308
>games chuubas rarely play like league, rougelikes, fortnite, counterstrike or honkai
Nothing has ever turned me off from watching nijisanji more than this.

>>17156122
Thing with sana is that she's like pretty much everyone in this board, isolated small Asian girl who's into anime. She's not used to being the center of attention or publicly speaking so I guess this is why she acts that way on streams. I still love her out of everyone in council

>>17159477
>sana
>isolated small Asian girl who's into anime
???

>>17155959
>>17156122
This, calli's uncanny valley commentary and delivery where painfully akward and obviously over compensating
>hehe I'm having so much fun friends from Hololive TM whom I would never throw under the bus
>I love you so much deadbeats, I would never ever cuck you tehe

>>17159477
i havent been able to get into sana but i dont dislike her, shes not even close to as bad as calli in terms of uncanny overenthusiasm

>>17149623
Anything with Mouse and Pika is automatically peak content. [Spoiler]Except for that one time. We don't talk about that[/spoiler]

>>17149623
Anything with Mouse and Pika is automatically peak content... Except for that one time. We don't talk about that.

>>17159094
it's okay anon you can stop pretending now

>>17155140
"Muh white people" stops making sense when you consider that EN are all white, except Ina who's a Gook-Leaf and therefore the whitest asian person alive.

>>17149623
you just know mori would have preferred to be part of the bottom collab

>>17156308
NijiEN:
>can't get perms for games
>no EN karaoke because management is retarded
>males
>bigger numberfags than holoEN
>rampant nepotism, everyone is essentially from the same indie 2view circle
>collab fees preventing JP senpai collabs
>hired a literal pedophile groomer

>>17160869
She's playing Shadowverse with Mousey on Friday.

>>17149623
Mori ruined Terraria. This is unreal. I didn't care about any of this drama, but now I'll never get a gura Terraria collab. Jesus christ, any 2 or 3 of them would be better than this mess.

>>17149623
Holo Myth never had chemistry. Council has better chemistry. Gura has better chemistry with Council than with myth with the

>>17157000
imagine being such a fragile snowflake

>>17156308
its easy to just say

HololEN is STILL an "Idol" company
wich gives alot more money but also binrg a ton of schizos

Nijisanji was never an Idol company to begin with and NijiEn falls int othe entertaiment company tag , less money from way less obsesive fans , but that is also a good thing on the long run, specially for the talents mental health


it does take a special kind of person to spend literal hundreds of dollars in akasupas.. and those persons are not mentally ok

>>17156793
if /vt/ knew japanese, they wouldnt have been kicked out of /jp/ for being retard LMAO

>>17162872
>that is also a good thing on the long run
Should I add this to the list?

>>17165155
you probably should

>>17165198
NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less money from way less obsesive fans , but that is also a good thing on the long run

>>17160815
You will never be white, miguel.

>>17149623
You can stop with these bait threads now. You're only going to make deadbeats throw more superchats her way.

>>17165290
i feel like it should fall under the "slow and steady growth"-cope to be fair

>>17149623
but the terraria stream was super chill. I loved it.
stop being so damn negative and focus on positive things, it'll make you happier

>>17165377
I think that one refers to sub count, not about money.

>>17165634
you might be right about that, but it was so fucking long ago that i cannot even remember the original post

>>17156966
You know in your heart that he's 100% right.

>>17165745
I got you, fampai.
>>10959272
>Those "midget numbers" look pretty stable imo. Why is holoshit literally plummeting with no signs of recover in comparison? Look at all those dead cat bounces. The holobubble is clearly about to burst.

>>17149623
>group of girls forced together because they all debuted at the same time vs group of girls that naturally became friends on their own
durr i dunno

Terreria stream was good, I doubt any of you fags talking about it really watched it. How was that other stream? girldm seems like one of the better indies.

>>17165913
The Ministry collab was great.
>Terreria stream was good
It was only that.
>How was that other stream? girldm seems like one of the better indies.
Didn't catch it, but yes, girldm is good.

>>17149623
Because cali is fucking toxic to every collab she is a part of

Cali is fine solo, and i dont mind when it is her and kiara, but every big group event seems to get worse if she is involved because her personality just does not mesh with the others

>>17156308
My anon, you can try better than this, I didn't even had to think farther than 2 months ago to see how much of both sides is bullshit, and I started enjoying Elira and NijiEN last november.

>>17165301
Whiter than you, Jacob Cohen.

>>17156308
go away nijibrony shill

>>17155959
>her strained social-worker-talking-to-a-retard voice
>this is fun! im having Fun playing this game!
I hate this retarded voice so much.
It's clearly the voice of someone socially inept talking to people that make them uncomfortable.
What makes it even more noticeable is that when she is alone, or with someone she's confortable, she doesn't use the voice.

No one in Council or Myth has any believable chemistry. They just fucking don't. Not even Gura and Ame.

>>17165835
post the ones after september, remember to list holoEN too btw

>>17168508
I think Ina and Kiara do. I think all vtubers are awkward, but the fact interact via discord and probably voice chat in meetings helps them a bunch. Well, that and I just like their talents more, in EN I only really like Kiara, Ina and IRyS, who deserves so much better.
Council was a mistake tho.

>>17168508
Kronii and Gura have a pretty good chemistry.

>>17168508
Ina and Gura have chemistry with others, Kiara is too self-absorbed though and I don't watch Ame so I'll decline to comment. The few times I've seen mori pop into other streams she just drunkenly rambles like a normalfag

>>17168680
Don't remember where they are, but the archive is there too.

>>17160448
Mori tries to fill dead air with the same 5 sentences repeated ad nauseum. Sana is just quiet when she doesn't have anything to say which leads to a lot of dead air. She also has trouble engaging with chat regularly, so a lot of it is just her making cure noises and making small comments here and there about the game she's playing.

>>17168508
not even shitposting, but any combination that does not include Calli is always leagues better than if she is part of it.

>>17168867
>kiara self-absorbed
Why are cumpedos like this? Why don't they watch streams? Because Gura barely streams?

>>17169034
As far as en collabs go, she always takes the reigns of the collab, and her partner just has to somehow keep up with her while she distracts everyone with personal stories. Hell the only time ive ever seen her have to back down her position was Kronii's korean class, which I'll still never understand why she made Kronii stream it on Kiara's channel and not on Kronii's.

>>17169603
Kronii doesn't want to admit she's Korean, because she's afraid of Ayame.

I'm noticing a pattern here
>Mori doesnt collab a lot
>Mori yabs very hard
>Mori collabs almost everyday

>>17169603
So you don't watch collabs? Got it.

>>17169743
I guess so that the others distract her of the yab/can retard wrangle her to not fall for bait. I mean, how embarrassing is it she now has to have her supas screened and aprove if she wants to read them lmao?

>>17170276
meant for >>17169695

>>17170276
Wait that's a thing? When did she say she was having manager screening and approval of all SC's? Does that mean they don't pop up right away?

>>17170538
anon-chama...
>>17159438

>>17169639
What does Ayame have to do with this. K thought she was on 28366th break

>>17170579
I don't browse the catalogue all day. I usually just open a few tabs and check in every once in a while. So she can't read time-sensitive SC's anymore. Wonder how that'll do for her SC count/amount.

>>17151801
Cali was super nervous the first five minutes. It got better after like 20 minutes.

The collab was better when Kronii/Mumei left and at its best after Calli left. I think it was just a bad game to stream with 6 people and only 2 POV

>>17170663
There's a meme that because Ayame didn't wish Ina a happy birthday, she hated Koreans. Someone made a fake twitter post where Ayame calls Ina a dog and rips into her because she's Korean. So, schizo rrat shit from a missed happy birthday taken to the most extreme it could be.

>>17162692
>>17156308
>snowflake
>filters unicorns
just go watch regular twitch streamers

>>17170777
Kinda like Mori missing Watsons Bday I guess.
Out of all the reasons to hate someone, not wishing someone a happy birthday seems the stupidest one.

>>17171420
It's literally a plot point in the movie draft day. and people mention how retarded that is all the time

>>17150101
50% of the collab are pretty far from being twitch fags. Pika has been there like a few weeks. Might want to think of a different excuse.

>>17150394
Are you better at posting than they are at streaming?

>>17155236
ESL schizo-chama, I think you forgot to take "those" again...

>>17155236
ESL definitely checks out

>>17171420
Only issue I have with that is that she told Ame that she would call in. If it wasn't for Kiara breaking the mold and calling in 3 times to chat, she wouldn't have made it. Best part is she liked a Connor tweet and Ame's birthday tweet before hopping online after waking up. Imagine how much shitposting would have happened had she not made it.

>>17168508
They're coworkers that got hired at the same time and have to be friendly with each other, but true friends that gravitated towards each other on their own will obviously have far better chemistry.

I've read at least 3 posts this week of unicorns hating collabs because they want to pretend the streamer is giving the viewer attention instead of forcing the viewer to become a fly on the wall.
So bad chemistry isn't a problem for En Holos since they shouldn't be doing them anyway.

>>17171420
>watson
where do you people come from

>>17155178
>https://www.twitch.tv/sakuramiko_hololive
>Last Broadcast: 3 days ago
Uh-oh

>>17171672
The shitposting was already bad enough until Mori called into the second half of Ame's birthday stream which was unarchived 3D singing. I really hope Mori gets it together and isn't actually a drunk.

>>17159094
>they went for a holoJP plus males approach.
Is that why the consistent reaction to the girls from the other branches and JP Niji fans was "These girls really belong in Nijisanji", or...?
Hell, if anything Luxiem have been the ones that people have consistently pointed to and said "This is something new to us", because NijiMales rarely fujobait on the level say, Mysta and Vox do.

>>17149623
HoloEN collabs are never good.

>>17155576

I took the indie 2view pill but thanks for the offer.

>>17165835
January is going to be a complete massacre.

>>17149623
Get out of here with your niji whos.

>>17155959
Gura+ non-Aussie council is the best combination that EN has going. Everyone has good chemistry, and it's always a blast to watch.

Terraria is a boring ass game. No amount of chemistry could save it

>>17151801
It was a mix of good and bad.
The most annoying thing was Mori constantly talking over everyone else, probably because she was drunk again. Ame seemed a bit out of sorts, possibly because of how crowded it was, but she was more active near the end. Kronii seemed very tired and like she didn't really want to be there. (Or perhaps she was just high.)

Fauna, Mumei and Gura were good and relatively energetic. (Though Gura's voice had a bit low volume on her stream.) I don't regret watching it, but then again I love Fauna + Gura so it makes sense.

>>17172661
Swings in seasons and holidays are a lot harder when you have a lot more people watching you. You can scream about % all you want, the fact is that any of the EN who regularly stream and take few breaks hold their numbers just fine.

>>17155959
Holy shit I've never agreed with a post more. Gura + Council is so good and I hate the forced Mori voice

>>17173559
EN branch is making 50% of what it used to. With 2x more people. NijiEN is going to completely destroy them in months to come. And not only thanks to males, girls are also making crazy $ now.

>>17155959
>kino

No they are just decent collabs. You are simply used to Myth collabs being crap.

Gonna be honest, I had no idea vtubers made this much money from donations, makes me appreciate streamer that don't accept any form of donation a little bit more.

>>17155352
Ironmouse high as fuck is a nerf not a buff

>>17175296
>Talking about SC
>Posting Selen
>Cherrypicking two streams
>One of them is ASMR
Yeah, ok. You got a bridge to sell me too?

>>17176083
>ASMR
She was playing APEX and Minecraft

>>17149623
Mori is incapable of having friends

>>17169603
>why she made Kronii stream it on Kiara's channel
Kronii is the one who wanted it to be on Kiara's channel

>>17149623
>"Friends"
>can't even remember their names
Mori is a whore being taken advantage of by a clout-chasing drama craving e-celebrity who is cheating on his wife. They are both bad people

>>17149623
Gura and Mumei do a very good "two halves of the same brain" act. Also I've been mistaking Fauna for Mumei speaking soft most of the stream

>>17176083
Selen is not even the the top earning female NijiEN.

>>17180489
Yeah Gura and Mumei collabs feel natural and this never happened in Myth.

>>17172661

im so happy for millie, she as openly said on stream that before niji she worked on minimum wage her entire life and that now she can finally buy things she never could like sushi thanks to her fans.

>>17156308
>There are holofags that actually enjoy childproof PG mush that's marketable
MEANWHILE AT NIJISANJI EN
https://youtu.be/xo6j2kTTFNc
https://youtu.be/YLmEVLBkAQc
https://youtu.be/fOJcvrXK7SQ
Idolfags are little bitches who can't handle a little vulgar humor. At least Kiara is actually trying to not hold herself back and express herself freely.

>>17158264
That's about all Holos can bring up now when you can look anywhere else and find better vtubers outside of Hololive.

>>17182620
Big numbers determine the quality of the content, nijisanji don't attract people, they are boring and don't do anything interesting

>>17183707
Ogey

>>17183707
>Big numbers determine the quality of the content
This is bait right?

>>17149937
There's usually a member that ruins the collab. picrel.

>>17149623
Why does Mori hate her genmates? Serious question. She hates Kiara because she’s a loud narcissist that hit on her. What about the rest of myth?

>>17165303
Let them

>>17155959
>>17156122
She can’t mingle with other women well because she, unironically, has some kind of internalized misogyny.

>>17186743
Nah, she's just too much of a tomboy that her overally masculine personality doesn't really allow her to interact with females too well.

>>17168508
You’re right and I’m waiting for holobronies to understand that. It’s not idol vs. manjisanji. It’s Hololive coworkers vs. Nijisanji discord friends.

>>17149623
>implying management orchestration
ha. that was entirely kalliope mori attempting (and failing) to damage control on her own.
>>17150103
>n-nooooo I don't like them, everything is forced and made by managemeeeeent
meds. now.
>>17150887
holy meds.

im just going to copypasta this until everyone sees it:
every gura + kronii/fauna/mumei stream is kino. gurame used to be kino but kinda faded out over time unfortunately, but still, theyre all comfortable around eachother. mori throws a wrench in this and makes everyone feel weird with her strained social-worker-talking-to-a-retard voice
>this is fun! im having Fun playing this game!

if you had any normalfag listen to mori theyd feel very uncomfortable, that wouldnt be the case with any of the other ens (they might find sana and kiara annoying but its not the same kind of discomfort/cringe)
callis forced enthusiasm is not just annoying, its uncanny

>>17149623
Deadbeats really went full schizo over this Connor shit huh?

>>17186743
>>17186822
Mori's trying to juggle two personas. as DD and Mori. That's why she can't commit completely. That's the 5%.

>>17150887
Go suck a dick bitch. Not everyone deserves 'freedom', people like you for example should just be slaving away in a mine. Holocorp's strat of absolute control is superior to your gay 'freedom' vtubers. Gays should never have had rights, women should never had voting power, minorities should have went through proper citizenship instead of the gay refuge bullshit. Fuck you and fuck your era of individualism, most of you don't deserve to have individuality.

It's cause terraria is a shit game, when IRyS streamed it I could barely keep watching. Ark isn't amazing but it's not some awful pixel art 2D side scroller and everyone would've had way more fun laughing every time someone took a dump

Mori...

Connor was right.

>>17149623
Because Niji has collab ability as one of their requirements. Cover focused more on individual skills.

>>17156308
Don't forget that NijiEN will often play games together off stream.
Pomu mentioned a few of the NijiEN were playing mahjong off stream.

>>17196008
if you know what the hell you're doing (by actually using the newly updated guide NPC as a way to get tips, and/or opening the wiki if you struggle that hard), Terraria actually has interesting combat and progression. It's a bit grindy and might be "shit to be streamed in it's entirety". but it's not a shit game.

This is also why they should've played in Journey Mode. Item duplication makes the game less boring.

>>17156308
To be fair. The minimum weekly streaming hours is clearly not a thing. A

>>17182431
This is unironically why I don't watch Niji.

>>17170732
I don't think it was the game, it's never boring to watch Kanae and the big stars playing it.

>>17206157
Pussy.

>>17207174
anon, HoloEN fans don't even know who BIG are...

>>17159094
>they went for a holoJP
I bet you're a selenfag because they have the most retarded takes here

>>17156308
> watching ENs
> when I could just watch holoJP kino

>>17156308
> 16 (you)s
> 80RMB has been deposited to your account
here's 5 more, eat something other than dog for once

>>17149623
>nothing in common
They all like streaming kek

>>17168906
do ENs not look at chat for convo topics? Laplus, Miko and several top holos tend to pick up something funny from chat and seamlessly transition conversations from one topic to another.
Or maybe EOPs are just not funny...

Listen, its very simple:
Holo JP > Niji JP
Holo EN < Niji EN

>>17150101
Only 2 of the streamers in the bottom image would be considered twitchfags

>>17211042
>implying that Mel, RBC, Lamy, etc. are better than Mito, Ange, or Yashiro

>>17211238
Do not talk shit about my robot wife

>>17210539
>Niji fans are chinese bots
By far the funniest cope

>>17211274
artificial lifeforms do not have rights

>>17155959
>mori throws a wrench in this and makes everyone feel weird with her strained social-worker-talking-to-a-retard voice
>>this is fun! im having Fun playing this game!
mfw you put into words what was bugging me about her in collabs

>>17183707
https://youtu.be/XqZsoesa55w

This should be the only thing you watch, right?

>>17156122
>>17155959
absolutely ruthlessly GIGGER NIGGER based

>>17213644
>Compare vtubers with other content
Why nijichinks like this?

>>17149623
HoloEN has always had a chemistry problem.
>Mori always sounds awkward around Myth
>Gura only talks to Ame in collabs
>Kiara is to loud
>Ina is to quiet
>Ame mutes herself all the time

People shit on Council but Council has a shit ton more chemistry with each other.

>>17215885
Pathetic deflection, either you torture yourself by watching bad quality content or you don't care about the numbers.

>>17216012
Yeah, now that Myth proved you could make money as EN vtubers, we'll only ever get a swarm of normie women with social skills from now on.

>>17216229
Video about sharks and vitubers have different age audiences, such comparisons are incorrect.

>>17182431
This if you want chemistry watch ANY NijiEN stream. Those dorks love each other. Also Rosemi is unironically very strong in collabs and knows when to turn it on and turn it off.

>>17149623
mori ruined another collab

>>17183707
>Big numbers determine the quality of the content
No one actually believes this

>>17219479
NIJICOPE LIST
>building a sub-culture
>slow and steady growth
>merch sales
>no longer showing off their achievements on their page because they have shown more humility
>percentages
>ratio
>tournaments don't count
>fortune telling
>volume
>averages
>total CCV during primetime
>trailers are ads
>Google trends
>Holo EN was a desperate gambit
>Holo's forcibly acquired audience vs Niji's natural growth
>stop picking on midgets! fight someone your own size!
>pit Vshojo against HoloEN when you're losing
>pit HoloEN against HoloJP when you're losing
>pit former Holo against HoloJP when you're losing
>Holobubble is bursting
>foreign buff/global audience bad, muh local Nips good
>YouTube Japan trends
>Apex will only get more popular from now on!
>flexible creative freedom
>Holo's restrictive management will cause them to eventually graduate
>Cover uses bots
>Hal is honorary Niji
>Kson is honorary Niji
>Ui is honorary Niji
>Most vtubers are Nijisanji like and Nijisanji is part of greater vtuber community
>Nijisanji fans are more passionate about their livers and will leave dislikes to show their engagement
>Sponsorships are retarded
>Hololive's merch and sponsorship bad because companies underestimated them which means that they don't care about the cheap collab
>Koshien is not an event
>Nijisanji is solidifying their other markets while keeping their strong home market
>pre-recorded lives are technically premiers and shouldn't count
>Cover is just lucky to have clippers and algorithm on their side
>Hololive invented unicorns
>watchalongs are POVs
>Nijisanji isn't a corporation, it's a family
>each Twitch viewer is equivalent to about 1.5 Youtube viewers because Selen flopped her first Twitch stream and Selen never flops
>by promoting the main channel they create more general Nijisanji fans which will then trickle down to the smaller livers down the line
>subs to growth ratio
>subs to SC ratio
>*insert delusion about Selen here*
>VOD views don't count
>everything that brings a big audience is a special event
>Niji is mainstream in JP, which is more important than Hololive's international dominance
>Holo's main channel kneels to Niji main channel
>gen 3 should be left alone so Nijis can be properly compared to Holos
>Square Enix doesn't count
>combined peak CCV
>quality numbers
>dead cat bounce
>Holo merch sells out quick only because of scalpers
>Hololive is only popular because of chink clippers
>68% of the top 50 vtubers is bad
>Rightful sovereignty
>Ichikara has morals
>bug in the algorithm
>DLC is a gimmick
>Nijisanji has a better following than Hololive in the west
>There are no nijifans here, only falseflaggers trying to make Nijifans look bad
>Views don't matter
>only the west speaks english
>outfit reveals don't count
>look at the Twitter interaction
>Fake numbers
>R-r-relays don't count because I say so
>Pokemon doesn't count
>20 hololive merchs
>We're losing? Better start telling blatant lies
>Luxiem is five Mystas
>Gura didn't go viral
>less money from way less obsesive fans , but that is also a good thing on the long run
>The numbers do not reflect the quality of the content

>>17170777

>>17149623
>Terraria
>Only Gura is Mori's clique on that collab
>the collab compose of all autistic and introvert girls

pls andastand

>>17211380
they are at least state approved

>>17149623
yes

>>17219749
Are you really going to argue the idea that popularity is an accurate reflection of quality while discussing a niche subculture?

her personality is pretty masculine so she has to dial it back in this gig

The collab felt too chaotic and like only Gura,Fauna, and Mumei wanted to play. I hope they don't ask Mori to keep playing with them. If it was just the 3 plus maybe Ame I feel like I could be interested in watching Terraria consistently.

>>17149623
It's possible.

>>17149623
>with my friends

>>17149623
because hololive is soulless

>>17149623
because as Connor said some hololive girls like mori have no talent

>>17210922
>do ENs not look at chat for convo topics?
I don't have the clip, but there's a somewhat recent stream where the girls were talking about how they dealt with the existence of chat, the literal thousands of people watching their every moves and commenting on it.

Ina said she saw "the chat" as a single entity. Now, Calli said she used to ignore it althogether, or pretend it's not real people, but a part of the game she was playing, and only later on she stopped doing that because she felt bad about it.

So I'm not surprised she simply doesn't look at it. i'm fairly sure the reason she likes Jump King so much is that she can forget she's even streaming and zone out autistically.

>>17155959
>>17156122
im happy more people are starting to put a finger on why any collab with Mori feels like the most awkward interaction you've ever seen
She talks like a character from a 2000s flash game

>>17229036
you gotta be built different to be a successful streamer. the thought of thousands of people watching me would freak me out so hard, I would lose my mind and go menhera in 1 day

Mori is no friends

bump

Collabs should be limited to four Holo's max. Gen collabs being the exception.

>>17232991
dude, why are you bumping a low-effort bait thread I made yesterday?

>>17233611
bump

>>17149623
I never watched the other one and not planning to watch it so I have no idea who had better chemistry and quite frankly I don't really care.

bump

>>17149623
Girl_dm has covid she's going to die. Haha just kidding covid is just the flu.

>>17149623
either take you pills or neck yourself already schizo.

>Inb4 funny skeleton jpg

Too much Myth. Myth just can't communicate with eachother.

>>17239291
that's just a myth.

>>17223689
It's pretty simple, vtubers are low quality entertainment.

>>17182431
>haha see it's funny because they get angry and bitchy
You know you can just watch women in public for that experience, right?

>>17241803
Anon that's just how women are. Would you rather have the experience be realistic and straight forward rather than this idol bullshit where no one is allowed to actually have fun and banter like normal people in real life? Are you really that afraid of shit like Mori and Kiara playing Mario Kart and saying shit like "I'm gonna beat this fucking bitch's ass so hard I swear to god".?

>>17242167
Why the fuck would I watch anime girls for realism? Are you an idiot?

/vt/ incels once again just making up reasons to hate Mori. Go outside, faggots.

>>17242335
NO U

>>17242335
Anon. People watch vtubers from Vshojo and Nijisanji EN because of their PERSONALITY. Not just because they're pretty moving pngs.

>>17149623
cuckbeats and the schizos like OP need to either take their meds or neck themselves pick one

>>17243121
no u

>>17220675
whore

>>17242916
Pretty much. People even watch voice only streamers as well.

>>17149623
faggot

>>17154806
the following words are primo meme material

>>17149623
How is it possible for this thread to have survived 2 entire fucking days on /vt/?

>>17149623
I like how mori calliope made her thumbnail vague on who her friends are, like she can't just copy pasta the PNGs of her fellow EN "FRIENDS" in it.

>>17173342
>Terraria is a boring ass game. No amount of chemistry could save it
Only for shizos it's boring when it's a literal action game in comparison with infamous minecraft.

>>17265981
It's the power of friendship

>>17265874
kek, fuckin saved

>>17232991
>>17235380
beware fren, I've heard that bump means cocaine, you can lure Lean Mori with that

>>17182431
>screaming and swearing is funny
am i too old for this shit?