/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17077065
You know why

Because nobody superchatted $250 to tell her to stop being friends with Garnt.

>a deadbeat is slowly figuring it out

>>17077065
because one of them gives her the dick and the other doesn't
easy w

>>17077122
they did though, not 250 exactly but there was a lot of superchats like that including to other members, which they all had to deal with.

>>17077065
There's a certain kind of man that women defend. Do the math.

>>17077065
He has put his penis in her vagina, anon.

Unironically, Kiara.
For all the hate Kiara got, when she was in Japan and tried so hard to be Calli's friend, she probably gave her plenty of advice on dealing with hate or otherwise reigned her in.
Calli then burned her and she left Japan and Calli's been on a downward spiral ever since.

>>17077065
Because Connor, bless his heart, is a sensitive little guy. I, on the other hand, am a married alpha warrior-poet who can take it. Mori is just a protective person by instinct. I love them both.

>>17077065
Because this time it's real

>>17077065
Because it was the truth lmao its that simple

>>17077065
Because Connor checks most of Mori's boxes, especially being a manlet. Please understand.

She got pissy at a 6 day old meme tweet anon, it was on her mind that fucking long. It sucks but nobody malds that hard unless everything thats being said is true.

>>17077120
fpbp

>>17077065
Oh lord, this innocent cuckbeat

>>17077065
There's no smoke without fire

>>17077065
Why are cucks like this?

>>17077065
Because Garnt is an alpha anituber. He's trolled mechafags all his life and will continue to shit on their dumb genre. Connor however is sensitive wee soul that tries so hard to be popular by liking Jojo, pandering to fujos, and being friends with a far more popular, handicapable latinX. Connor needs to be protected like a small animal

>>17077065
Its not because she's fucking Connor or likes him more that Giggacuck, its because the whole "Hololive is automatic success'" thing was something that she herself said to Connor IRL. He was just repeating something that Mori had said to him. That's the whole reason she won't back down, she isn't defending Connor, she's defending her own opinion.

>>17079446
who told you this?
its a lie.

>>17077493
What did Mori do to Kiara

>>17079537
Where do you think Connor gets all his inside info about Hololive from? Yagoo?

>>17078907
Garnt is actually chill, Connor is a twat.

>>17079677
What inside info? I definitely don't watch him enough to know if he's said more, but "you don't need to be talented to succeed in hololive" isn't exactly inside info.

>>17079446
If it's not recorded, it might as well didn't happen. Why bother defending it? Try better next time, Cuckbeat.

>>17077575
I kneel

>>17077065
White guy with a solid jawline and a british accent

>>17079836
because Mori is a dumb bitch that cant let anything go

>>17077065
Connor has a special place in her heart (and elsewhere), Garnt doesn't.

>>17079630
Basically be an awful friend consistently over the months. And Kiara tried so hard to be a friend to her. Other anons have compiled the evidence, but I feel the tipping point was when she point blank lied about watching Kiara's video, and made it obvious. You could hear how sad Kiara was.

>>17079446
>Hololive is automatic success
Yes because they are the top dog company and have a ton of unity fans eager to help out

That's a very different thing compared to the backhand insult from Connor saying
Holos don't need to be good at streaming

Semantics motherfucker

>>17079809
The part about lying to get into hololive has to come from insider info of one talent lying about some experiences/skills in her cv. Or more likely, Mori ranting about her coworkers with her friends

>>17080017
What a cunt, she deserves what’s happening

>>17039987

>>17080017
Link to the lying about Kiara's video?

>>17077158
figuring what out?

>>17080017
During the stream where they shared vacation photos Mori mentioned that her first impression of Kiara IRL was, "Oh, I don't know if I can be friends with this person." They basically have nothing in common besides working for the same company.

>>17081940
He's mixing up two different moments. One was where Kiara jokingly asked if she's seen her King cover (which was just Kiara Rickrolling) and Mori says "yeah it was great"
https://streamable.com/t2985s

The other was when Kiara asked if she's seen Heart Challenger yet and Mori says she hasn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKw_b8RrodI

>>17082010
Stupid emo bitches judging gigastacies, it's like a movie formula honestly. The alternative protagonist looks at the seemingly vapid cheerleader and sneers in derision, and the audience is supposed to agree with the punk rock chick because she's the unpopular one and she's secretly perfect, but she's just a horrid skank and the stacy did NOTHING WRONG

>>17080017
>And Kiara tried so hard to be a friend to her.
Kiara forced her into the despicable yuribaiting arc for the sole purpose of leeching off her. If there's one thing Mori did that was justified, it's shitting on Kiara at every turn.

>>17082131
All Mori had to do was say that yuri baiting made her uncomfortable. Instead, she was just a passive aggressive cunt to someone just trying to be her friend.

>>17078683
dude, have you ever seen dry ice?

>>17082288
ice can't be dry don't be stupid anon

>>17077065
>she literally collabed with him and unicorns got pissy but she laughed it off and didnt let it bother her.
She used to laugh at insults in general like when that retard called her "dogwater". I don't think the reason she lost it has anything to do with Connor specifically. It's just her mind deteriorating from the drankies.

cuckbeats...

>>17082131
>le takamori arc bad
If Mori really didn't want to do the yuri act all she had to do was say "Look, Kiara, I really don't want to do this" and Kiara would have relented. Mori used the yuribait to prop herself up at Kiara's expense.

>>17082096
>Gigastacy meme
I love Kiara but c'mon, she's just a shy girly girl irl

>>17083987
>prop herself up at Kiara's expense
unlike Kiara, Mori never depended on collabs to keep herself afloat

>>17077065
>he doesn't know

>>17077065
Can they just graduate this bitch already? She actively brings down the rest of Hololive just by being associated. She doesn't belong and should go join Vwhorejo on twitch.

>>17081968
Keep figuring, you will realize it one day

>>17082096
Based. Wicked's plot has been done to death already

>>17077065
Because garnt, despite being an anituber, is clever enough to not directly insult hololive talents. He's never done so unlike his two buttbuddies. He's remained, more or less, professional in public which is all anyone could ask.
So when the invective flew her way that time Mori easily laughed them away. She was still passive agressive and bitchy when it was pointed out to her, but members, that she seemed to put way more effort into her collab with garnt, and was happier and more upbeat, than during her disastrous gura collab for which she prepared jack all and during which she seemed completely apathetic. That was all on her and her alone. Garnt didn't do wrong there.

However this time conner did fuck up, and Mori knows this. Hence the wild reaction she had to the first SC from a member, in a member stream no less.
People don't fly off the handle like that unless it rings true at some level, and they certainly don't seethe about it for the next week either. That they basically told her "hey by not calling this guy out you're giving tacit agreement to what he said you know" obviously struck a nerve and she didn't like what she saw about herself.
Cue menhera downward spiral and here we are.

>>17077493
I feel like Mori has only gotten more successful since then though.

>>17084648
Can't wait for her to fly off the handle somemore in the collab tomorrow when the other girls get the same type of comments and SC just by virtue of her being there

>>17084689
Apparently, as her fans, her friends, and she admits by omission, not because of her talent or resume, but just because of hololive and anime avatar.
Very succesful indeed.

>>17084689
More numbers, maybe, but less sanity. It's a tradeoff. She never hit the lean this hard back in the day, and she laughed off trolls.
Meanwhile Kiara is stronger than she's ever been, even if her numbers are still "average."

>>17084689
more successful? if that was true, she wouldn't be concerned about her numbers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Sju8gM08Q

>>17077065
Song as old as rhyme.

>>17084775
wow, holy fuck you are mad, maybe hit some lean or something

>>17084648
He's never insulted Hololive but I certainly wouldn't associate with him given his past history

>>17081173
More like herself. Probably lied that she was FLUENT in Japanese, and by the time it came to light that she was not...

>>17082288
Dry ice doesn't smoke, faggot.

>>17077120
/thread

>>17085165
unlike mori

>>17085091
Pretty sure that that would've been made apparent after her first
>NAR-rue-hoe-doe
>>17081173
>Or more likely, Mori ranting about her coworkers with her friends
What an incredibly bitchy thing to do if true.
Unitychads despair.

>>17084241
>he believes this
You need to stop believing every rrat the eggs come up with.

>>17085439
They may have written it off as 'oh she's just got odd pronunciation as a foreigner' or some other nonsense, but yea, after these events I'm certain the reason she defended Connor so quickly is because she's the one who told him stuff that made him form that opinion, so saying he was wrong would be lying about her own opinions.
Dumb bitch drinks dumb bitch juice. More news at 11.

>>17085442
in what way is this a rrat? Kiara has no talents, spamming collabs is her only salvation and she knew it from the start

>>17082073
wow what a bitch

>>17077065
Garnt has a fiance who he happily lives with in Japan where they get to enjoy the weeb life together
Connor is a single guy whose closest thing to a girlfriend is in Puerto Rico and too frail to leave her house
One is far more threatening to their waifus than the other

>>17085886
Yes.
Now you see. Even the hated chicken gives more of a shit about hololive and its members and puts more than 5% into it and certainly doesn't put scummy anitubers that denigrate her higher than her fans an colleagues.

>>17077065
Because Garnt actually respects Otaku culture.
Connor on the other hand is an unapologetic parasite

>>17087281
>Connor on the other hand is an unapologetic parasite
The supreme irony of it all is that he's a leech to his "friends" too. Nobody would've known about this literal who "pro voice actor" fcuking lol besides some fat fujo american teens girls and trannies. If not for his association with garnt and the other faggot he'd still be in wales living at home.

>>17082073
do people still think mori was in anyway being serious about the king thing? the heart challenger thing is shitty but going "oh yea its amazing i listened to it 50 times" in a super bored voice is clearly not her being serious, even if kiara missed it and does look hurt about it

>>17087370
it's almost like you don't need talent to succeed as a streamer, rather it's who you know and work for.

>>17077575
Cannur-sama I kneel!

>>17077120
cuckbeats fap to this

>>17085439
Isn't that what everybody do when they hang out with friends? My friends always complain about some coworker being dumb and giving them more workload

>>17078907
Wait, pretty sure Connor is the one that made iron mouse so popular.

>>17085087
What history? The scamming thing that was posted here?

>>17082242
Mori DID tell her to stop, several times at the start. Go back and watch those early collabs. There are legit times when Mori sounds angry telling Kiara to stop, and Kiara wouldn't.

I'm not exactly a deadbeat, I'm more of a Gura/Ina fan, but Kiara's interactions with Calli, basically forcing the Takamori shipping despite Calli OBVIOUSLY wanting nothing to do with it made me hate Kiara for a long time.

It's only now that the entire gig has basically been given up that Kiara has become tolerable again.

>>17088149
You are trolling now. Its either that or "how new?".

>>17088512
Kiara's just awkward, anonchama. Calli just had to have a proper sit down with her and tell her to stop in a serious conversation, not in a tsundere jab during a collab.
Kiara is just too dense and trusting to pick up on Calli's genuine passive aggressiveness. She thought it all part of the act.

>>17077065
the gigguk thing was on stream
people disliking her content is one thing, but the connor thing was random viewers criticizing her personal life, which anyone would be more pissed about

>>17088730
Let’s not forget that Mori was different offstream, and Kiara consistently came to collabs expecting friendly energy while playing their characters and got NOTHING. It made her look really bad and damaged her career.

>>17088512
Interactions on stream can't be taken as genuine since it's all playing characters (well that's what it's supposed to be, even if Calli hates that fact). It's the off-stream stuff that matters. Any protesting Calli does on-stream isn't going to register as real but if she just had a normal conversation while they were having sex off-stream, it would have all been cleared up.

>>17088730
yeah so I'm not too dense to pick it up, but a social butterfly idol/cosplayer is? please

>>17089102
You're too dense to realize Kiara is playing a character so it seems reasonable you're too dense to think other people might interpret Calli's behavior as playing one.

>>17077065
Can someone tell me what unicorn means in this context?

>>17081968

>>17084888
Jesus fuck, that poor 5'11" guy.

>>17089178
unicorns of legend could only be approached or touched by pure maidens. That was used as a term for idol fans that insisted that idols must be and remain virgins. This term has since been degraded on this board to mean "can't have a boyfriend currently" or "can't talk to men"
But originally it meant people who only acknowledged and supported idols that were still virgins.

>>17077065
The same thing rings true regarding her fellow genmates. No amount of harrasment towards them resulted this kind of reaction from her but just one single mean SC about Connor and hell broke loose. So indeed why Connor and not Gigacuck? Why Connor and not her fellow genmates? It's pretty obvious.

>>17077065
She didn't fuck Garnt.

>>17089593
The condom money ticked everyone off.

> remain virgins.
>degraded on this board to mean "can't have a boyfriend currently"

Are you actually retarded?

>>17089588
nrhd, thank you.

>>17089588
Based

>>17089676
No one but her cared though

>>17089593
this is honestly the thing that irritates me the most in this shitshow, i can't imagine her going out of her way to defend any of her genmates like she does for this welsh cunt

>>17089593
Aside from /vt/s ORANGE WOMAN BAD shit, what drama has even gone on with the other EN girls that would even warrant a reaction?

>>17090373
Gura kicking Haachama off of the EN server.

You know what the worst part is? Connor isn't even wrong.

Hololive members will have day 1 way larger audiences than independent streamers of any kind and will see much more money, dedicated audiences, and stability than any other person with their talents or abilities simply because they got scouted by an agency and got lucky in the audition roulette.

>>17090688

>>17090688
It was never about the truth of the statement. The question is "Is that statement disparaging to Hololive?"

>>17090688
>Connor isn't even wrong.
No, he's wrong. Hololive gives vtubers a big initial push but longterm success is all up to the talent of the individual vtuber. That's Holos with incredibly low views like Anya exist.

>>17090688
And independent streamers get lucky by the YouTube algorithm, what's your point?

>>17090688
Explain HoloEN & Council in particular. They are barely popular, low tier holos.
all I know is that EN scouting has been bad and that initial holopush did not do a thing. Don't even talk about HoloX and Gen 5 because they are all damn good.

>>17090775
>>17090844
>>17091083
>>17091497
>>17091508
Coping and seething. Don't delude yourself, with very few exceptions they are about as talented as anyone in the Just Chatting section of twitch. They all talk the same, play the same dogshit video games, have the same cringe sense of humor, and pander to the same people.

The even sadder part is how one of the few actual talents Hololive has is Mori, who had an actual music carrier before being a vtuber, and she's the one you're shitting on.

Stay mad you blind coomers.

>>17091508
They are popular, you are wrong

>>17091985
nice bait

>>17091985
>deflects and dilates
lol. Keep Coping Mori

The best way for trolls to get to Mori now is by targeting her innocent genmates. They're all professional and will handle it just fine, but it will still fuck with Mori.

>>17092230
Mori doesn't give a shit about her genmates.

>>17090688
>>17091985
Yeah I'll just let my "friend" make fun of my genmates and colleagues. Oh golly gee me!

>>17092273
The bad optics would force her to give a shit.
>oh shit if I don't react that would give the trolls credence that I care more about some anituber faggot than my genmates

>>17092273
This rrat should be in the rretirement home. It can't even hold itself up, poor thing...

>>17092230
The best way to get to Mori is to slam your dick in a desk drawer, upload it to Twitter, and tag her. That would totally own her and the Deadbeats!

>>17077575
Isn’t his wife into ntr? And he’s some sort of Asian meaning so is he, being a cuck is never aloha behavior

>>17088149
>this is the type of person tt brought in
I bet you think they made Hololive and kson popular too

>>17092428
>bad optics
>mori
yes, she is absolutely the one who is most concerned about optics

>>17092560
Isn't synd in vshojo now? I remember she stopped collabs with Connor simply because he cannot stop calling her synd. That man cannot kayfabe and he seeths about it.

>people really thinking connor would touch a woman that is not mouse
connor is not a idiot, he knows that if he did that his fanbase, mouse fanbase, vshojo fanbase and shitton more of random people would harass and cancel him in a heartbeat.
hell put mori on the other side and now you have also the hololive fanbase.
you would need to be retarded to touch a bomb this big and both of then are not that stupid

>>17093468
are you fucking retarded? the common opinion of him is that he is a harem protagonist, its what his 13 year old fans see him as. if he fucks mori and mouse, as well as vei, nyanners etc all that deadkeks will do is applaud him.

>>17093468
But that doesn't discount Mori thirsting after an e-celeb with a british accent on her own.

>>17077065
She definitely wants to fuck C*nn*r. During this saga she sperged the hardest from the condom chat and cuck picture specifically. There's something going on there.

>>17090688
but he was a douche about it
normal person would quickly realize what they said sounded wrong and correct themselves but he didnt and fiegned ignorance instead

>>17090688
>You have to lie in an interview
He's wrong in character.

>>17093468
I think if Connor physically touches mouse she explodes.

>>17090661
Okay I need context because kicking her off as a joke. That's fine but not letting her in permanently is a different story.

>>17091508
What are you on about. Holomyth is stupidly popular and are up there in top SC rankings. You are delusional

>>17077065
It's funny how /vt/ insists on ignoring that the superchat effectively called her a slut.

>>17077065
Because he is from a third world country and because of that Mori doesn't recognize him as human and potential partner.

>>17090688
>Everyone lies on their resume
Spoken like someone who sold out, feels bad about it, and copes by assuming everyone else does it

>>17090373
Mumei and Fauna harassment right out of the gate because of roommate stuff.

>>17077120
basado king

°

>>17090688
Regardless of his statement, that she still defends him is poor taste.

>>17077120
/thread he said it.

Why did Mori say the N word so much in her past life?

>>17089102
Kiara is very clearly a pretty awkward girl IRL, anon. She's not a "social butterfly", she just tried to go into an industry that likes them (and didn't have a great time).

And I don't mean it as an insult, by the way.
I used to really dislike her when she started out because she came off as really fake to me (and I was right in thinking she was) but, now that more of her sincere self shines through, I actually like her a lot.

>>17077120
/thread

>>17106482
She didnt know what that new age term meant

>>17077065
love me some drankies

>>17091985
Gotta be bait. No way anyone is this retarded.

>>17106535
lol

>>17106482
Her life has been surrounded by white people, when she found something new and refreshing in the form of rap music, she took in the culture at a very surface level understanding.

>>17106680
what a retarded way of saying she's a wigga

>>17106535
kek

>>17081968
That the stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>17087490
Anon. Consider for a moment that you're a regular person with constant, regular interactions with other people. If this were the case, you'd easily realize that what you saw exhibited there was Mori knowing she fucked up and her feeble attempt to cover it through sarcasm and audacity. ie. Trying handwave it away as if it were all a joke. Stupid thing to try to do, as all it did was to make it sound worse - mocking even, but that seems to be confirmed as the running thing with this woman in particular. She's only lucky that Kiara knew enough social cues to not to escalate things to make matters worse.

>>17107076
>he doesn't know this is Kiara pullling an inside job because she's still salty that she adheres to the idol bullshit but still pulls the lowest numbers

>>17088867
She brought the connor issue from her personal life onto her stream. Did you not read the original SC that sparked this entire mess? If she hadn't done that none of this would 've happened.

>>17092560
>aloha behavior

>>17085952
Single
shorter than calli
lives close enough that she participated on the podcast
likes to get drunk

deadbeats have no chance of this not happening

>>17094523
He said "you could lie in a interview"
Not that you have to, or that anyone did, it's not like he has inside info on resumes we don't

All the cuckbeats can do is jerk off and donate money that is directly funneled to Connor. Easy W for him.

>>17092407
It's a fucking job, unless they're legit friends who cares if someone is shit talking your coworkers lmao

>>17109061
Imagine thinking you're any less of a cuck for supporting any other girl than Mori. They all get railed by Chad every weekend, even your oshi. In fact Mori is one of the girls who are most likely to still be pure, since she said just a few years ago that she's never had a boyfriend and doesn't trust men with her body. Of course she's probably had her fair share of Japanese dick by now but if I had to put my money on any of them being virgins still...

>>17093295
she didnt stopped collabing with him
she dont stream at all my dude

>>17109061
How tall is he? Mori only like short guys.

>>17109577
what makes you think i've ever sent a single superchat or joined any membership?

>>17109929
Well Mori likes him, so we can deduce that he's short.

>>17077065
She is fine now, she will stream with her friends today! I think Connerr and TT

>>17109975
You still jack off to your oshi ever night while she's getting fucked by Chad. We're all cucks, deadbeat or not.

>>17106535

>>17109577
Anon I think you need to lay off the lean. Your starting to sound like a skitzo.

>>17109577
don't overdose on NTR hentai cuckbeat bro

>>17077120

>>17110552
>no argument
You know I'm right.
>>17110604
I'm not a waifufag, I don't care who they get railed by.

Unironically, Kiara. I, on the other hand, am a married alpha awful friend consistently shared vacation photos Mori mentioned she's just a horrid skank and the stacy did NOTHING WRONG that yuri baiting made her uncomfortable. Instead, she was just a shy girly girl irl despite being an anituber, is clever enough to collab tomorrow when the other girls get the same type of comments never hit the lean this hard back in the day she was FLUENT in Japanese, and by the time it came to light she defended Connor so quickly is because she's the one who told him stuff despite Calli OBVIOUSLY wanting nothing to do with it made me hate Kiara for Connor and not Gigacuck?

>>17088512
the official narrative is that the fans pushed takamori too hard, so it had to be killed. you're not allowed to believe that it was really kiara. those dogshit colabs never happened

>>17090688
He isn't wrong since he described himself to a T.
As for your other faggotry, the reason holos get such a large initial boost in views is because of the company's reputation. If Hololive had a rep of shitty scouting no one would be watching new debuts and only start watching new girls months later after they'd proven themselves to not be a trash fire.
A high reputation means they likely put in effort finding these people and filtering them down to the best of the best. The fact that like your favorite faggot, you don't understand how business reputation even works in this context just shows how retarded you TT anituber faggots are.
Then again that's because you love watching untalented hacks who never did anything of value or worth caring about. Now shut up you male simping faggot.

>>17107076
what the fuck are you talking about

she instantly responds dismissively to kiaras trick question, there's no panic or readjustment that she's fucked up. she acts literally the same as she always does. autistic esl trying to explain english interaction to me lol

>>17078907
>Garnt is an alpha anituber
He won't admit to liking the things he like's and hides behind the facade of liking it "because it's so bad" i.e. liking it ironically.
He's a pussy bitch. But at least he's a genuine weeb. He's still on the more respectable side of anitubers which is more an indictment of anitubers than anything else but that's besides the point.
If you wanna see an alpha anituber look at digibro in his prime.
https://youtu.be/MQoBxxtb8vY?t=1237
People like to weep for Demolition D quitting but Digibro's downfall will always be more tragic in my eyes.

>>17077065
Well, connor is pretty above average. Closer to handsome for some girl's taste. In fact he actually gain actual fangirl ever since he dress like now compared how he used to be.
Garnt is just average in male's eye. He probably looks ugly in female's eyes.

>>17108942
he's over half a foot taller than her