/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Literally who?

>>1708118
Any other recent graduations?

>>1708518
Ryuusei Nova, check the archives for the thread on her https://twitter.com/ryuuseinova/status/1372355484838203392

>>1708475
Mint. Not really a 'literal who' in the Indie ENVtuber sphere

>>1708118
Just because I'm a contrarian I'm gonna say she got in holoEN 2

Is anyone keeping an eye out for any male VTubers that might end activities soon?

>>1708926
Auditions aren't even over yet.

She literally got her 2.0 last week, why would she graduate?

>>1708957
but holo singers are anon

>>1708957
Last time the people who auditioned last week got 0 views...

>>1708118
Redpill me on her?
What's she's good at? Is she crazy sjw? does he have any sympathy for trannies?

>>1709020
What does that have to do with anything?
>>1709004
So what you're suggesting is there's 2 Vsingers? Because it's really likely Nova is in the same group as her.

>>1708987
obviously you know, anon

>>1708987
Read the op

>>1709054
don't bring your polshit here poltard

>>1709054
She's clean as a whistle history-wise. Cute voice, can sing and she loves the VOMS girls.

>>1709094
>What does that have to do with anything?
Auditions didnt close, but the first holoEN batch was choosen since the second week, places get filled in the meantime, not after time has passed.

>>1709152
>but the first holoEN batch was choosen since the second week
I don't recall hearing anything about this, proof?

>>1708588
>Indie ENVtuber sphere
Ah, so a literally who.

>>1708940
I'm only aware of Ais Riale. I'd love for him to join Nijisanji but I really doubt that's happening.

>>1709212
Fuck off /wvt/ not everyone has to be in your little circle to be relevant.

>>1708118
She becomes an angel? Is Uto making a vtuber group?

>>1709186
No proof besides auditioned people word, all the people who auditioned after said point got 0 views in their audition videos, so they didnt even got watched, or so they all said.

>>1709422
Until you provide a source I'll assume you're bullshitting. There's also the possibility that their applications were bad enough that their audition wasn't considered.

>>1709494
did you know /aud/ thread in this same board? Its all for people tying to get in agencies, just ask in there lol

>>1709054
She's a jewish woman who has sex with black trannies. Now never watch any of her streams and fuck off back to your political shithole retard.

>>1709582
No, I don't think I will.

>>1708118
I have watched her before, she isn't bad.

>>1709632
Then you can fuck off nigger

>>1708926
Anon she was rejected from EN Gen 1

>>1709690
If you make a claim the onus is on you to provide basis for it. Cry about it.

>>1709407
She would’ve done it if it wasn’t for her yabs. For now she’ll watch her half-sister Luto from a distance and her antics with the new tenshi girl.

>>1709719
Maybe they kept her number

>>1708118
Ryuusei liked mints post

>>1709139
half of hololive fanbase are redditors and other half /pol/ refugees anon

>>1709925
Anything else she's liked?

>>1709986
only on 4chan, there's plenty of normies in the mix

>>1708940
Don't hold your breath, it's extremely unlikely that Nijisanji will include any men. It's probably going to be three girls between the market and their branch trends.

>>1710060
Go on her twitter and check retard, I was checking to see if they had any interactions at all and this was the first thing I see.

>>1710302
>it's extremely unlikely that Nijisanji will include any men
I don't see why people think this. If Nijisanji's smart they *will* include men because that's exactly what the market is missing and that's exactly what will distinguish them from Hololive. Their other foreign branches have males as well.

>>1710373
>I don't see why people think this
Men do ridiculously bad in English regions for some reason. China, Korea and Indonesia has popular independent male vtubers. I've even seen a mexican dude that brings in big numbers, but there're literally no popular men over here that weren't famous before becoming vtubers or waifu babiniku.

Hololive's unofficial stance is that they'll never make Holostars EN and all the smaller companies in the region basically said they'll never debut a man. We're actually the biggest waifufags.

>>1710863
Last I checked Astel from Holostars had a 70% foreign audience. I think there's more of a potential audience than people think. Well, I could be wrong, but I think Nijisanji would be stupid not to capitalize on one of the few things that makes them stand out from the competition. Guess we'll have to wait and see though.

>>1710863
Niji is going to give us a Chadtuber and you're going to give up your oshi for him.

>>1710863
>Korea
vtubers are not popular in korea at all.

>>1708118
What an upbeat way to inform everyone that you're dying

>>1710863
>Men do ridiculously bad in English regions for some reason
People thought the exact same things when Niji started adding guys. Now men have pretty much took over the company's top. The top used to be Sasaki, Gibara, Lulu and Lize and now it's Kanae, Kuzuha, Yashiro and Fuwa.

>>1711047
>>1710863
We don't have a good shitposting chad vtuber yet. Gura's lost her magic so we need to look at males.

Been following her since one of her early Pikamee collabs. Getting a new model then immediately retiring 2 weeks later definitely means she got accepted into an agency. I'm honestly happy for her and hope she enjoys being apart of something bigger

>>1710863
Since when you under the impression that they'd pick a "popular man"? That would make it too easy to find out who he was.
>unofficial
The currently ongoing auditions aren't limited to women so men can apply as well. If there's anyone worth looking, there could be at least one member for HolostarsEN.

>>1711362
Not really. Kuzuha is 1 and Kanae is 3 but rest of top ten are all girls.

>>1711362
Japan's had popular male vtubers since basically the beginning. Baacharu, Inui, you could count Noja Loli Ojiisan. Nijisanji's men never did bad, they just did worse than the most successful girls but Toya held fine against the second wave.

It's not like I don't think Nijisanji or Holostars couldn't make a successful guy but the resources that go into debuting a man is the same as debuting a girl. It's not a problem of risk, if they debut a guy they make some cash on the side and call it a day, but they can just add another girl and make a ton of cash easy.

The reason they usually have a male in every batch is that men do fine in other regions, but screencap this, Nijisanji won't have any men in their first batch.

>>1709719
Nene was rejected multiple times and yet she's in

>>1709925
I mean they’re literally on the same Twitch team (Hanamori)

>>1711971
Oh, I don't watch ryu at all. I found about her with the graduation announcement.

>>1711461
That was the among us collab right?

>>1708118
Haachama will be the 3rd NijiEN.

>>1709925
She also replied
https://twitter.com/ryuuseinova/status/1373089026564100097

In the announcement stream she said she's quitting because of health related reasons. Unlikely this has anything to with Niji, the timing is probably just coincidental.

>>1712368
She said that was only partially the reason and that she was fine and it wasn't what people were thinking.

>>1712038
It was probably an Among Us collab. I remember she showed up in Pika's chat a day or two after the collab and I ended up looking her up and watching a bit before following. It was months ago so I've forgotten what stream it was exactly

>>1709719
That doesn't mean anything, in fact it only improves her chances if she was near the top of the list for EN1 but they had to cut her for the other 5 girls(but really why would they do that and keep Kiara??)

>>1712211
Ok, I'm a bit of a faggot in this situation like >>1710060 Implied. I didn't get to see the beginning of the stream and on the VOD watch Nova pops in her chat and Mint tells us that they DM'd each other.

So she's ditching a small community of people who love her, for an ocean of strangers and creeps who will send her cringe supas?
I guess money is more important than friends for her.

>>1713214
She can just be like Ina. Not read them at all

Her voice is quite good. Like Broadway good with enough training

>>1713214
>friends
Parasocial relations will never reach the level for people to consider their online acquaintances as real friends. And yes, money IS more important than friends. Literally anyone would ditch their friends of that would mean being rich and having no monetary problems for the rest of their life.

>>1713459
>Literally anyone would ditch their friends of that would mean being rich and having no monetary problems for the rest of their life
terminally friendless anon-chama...

>>1709147
Oh really? Did she do anything before vtubing? I would love to see old content from her if there is any out there.. she's my favorite indie for sure.

>>1713214
>a small community of people who love her
But does she love them?

Chances that this is HoloEN instead?

>>1713214
If that small community really loves her, they would still find her even if she reincarnated

>>1714210
Hopefully 0

>>1714251
Suisei still has tons of indie friends from her independent days so...

>>1714210
Applications are still being accepted so very small.

>>1713309
Based. We need more girls like her.

>>1714210
If it's hololive it'll be for the VSingers. If they are accepting two then I could see them being a duo. That would also kind of be in line with what hololive has done in the past with a number of the members already knowing each other before they joined hololive.

>>1714210
Unlikely. Applications are still being accepted for just a few more days. Probably the VSinger position, NijiEN or another agency.

>>1710863
>Men do ridiculously bad in English regions for some reason.
The west hates men on every single level. They're not allowed to be cute, they're not allowed to be happy. You can be ONE type of guy or else you're a nobody. That kills any growth a male vtuber could have. ALL the popular male vtubers outside of the west are all bishounen or femboys.

>>1708118
>Mint
It'll be a sad day for architects.

>>1714914
thats just hating femininity, it's tied closer to female hate really

>>1714819
I hope that this isn't the case. Like this girl and the other one certainly aren't bad, but I personally would like to see a higher level of ability from whomever is eventually chosen to be the EN vsinger.

>>1714914
>They're not allowed to be cute, they're not allowed to be happy.
You should stop spending all of your time online in places like /v/.

>>1715023
Agreed, they're ok but for being AZKi's kouhai someone with a stronger voice would be better.

Is it possible that NijiEN is going to be all girls? Maybe Ichikara looks at the success of HoloEN and thinks that the west doesn't like male Vtubers?

>>1715158
Niji tends to debut their talents in big groups and we've got 2 likely candidates thus far, best to wait and see

>>1713459
Online friendships aren't necessarily parasocial, it's only if it's one-sided.

Anons, I have arrived at a terrible realization.

Nijisanji/Hololive timing their news just right, to vtubers that they've been accepted right when they have their model upgrades as indies, is fairly sneaky.

The indies already are down the hole a couple grand for their model upgrade and need to recoup the costs. So dangling their acceptance emails becomes a massive incentive to stay on and tough it out to make up the money because the first few months don't have the salaries sorted out yet (according to what's been said from HoloEN).

It's like the scene in Ozark where the Byrdes sabotage a casino by rigging the slot machines to bankrupt it, so that the owners have no choice but to sell to the Byrdes.

You can challenge me on the argument or how weak the analogy is, but it's basically timing a deal so your target is at a moment of weakness and will agree to your terms.

I'm starting to believe that one rrat about the indie sabotage-and-recruit being true, but the details or methods vary from case to case.

>>1713459
This. Online friendship can never equate real friendship. That's why people call them "online friends" or "internet friends" instead of just friends. They aren't really friends. More people than ever are on anti-depressants or report feeling lonely than they have ever before in history. That is HUGE.

>>1715158
If that is the case then it'd be clever for Cover to actually have at least one member for HolostarsEN for the sake of novelty as well as testing the waters.

>>1715524
You know what's more important than the rambling shit you posted? Getting someone who people actually want to watch. Especially for Nijisanji, who have a brand image problem because of their previous policy of zerg recruiting, they need to make sure they get people who are endearing and/or talented rather than bums off the street over whom they have leverage.

>>1715824
*laffs in Meiro/Vihaan/Aadya*

>>1715824
We'll see when it happens, if Niji makes the mistake of deciding to do their usual sink or swim and leave the branches to their own thing and not do all this support and marketing they really need to haul ass on.

>>1715595
Nah I only call my friends that when I need to make the distinction, I sometimes refer to my other friends as "real life friends", does that make them not really friends?

>>1715251
Who's the other one?

>>1715251
>Niji tends to
There's no such thing, they do whatever they feel like at the moment.

>>1718778
Ryusei Nova is retiring on March 28th, thread is >>1648860
The two of them are friends, announced their retirements a day apart and are graduating a few days apart from each other.

>>1708118
Yay, she did it. Good luck, ghostie, I'll be cheering for you.

>>1719534
Brace yourselves for some lolcows and doxxcords doing their thing.

>>1719603
>kf, doxxcords, and lolcow
Truly the unholy trinity of FAGGOTS online.

>>1708118
whats her specialty?

>>1712626
>girls(but really why would they do that and keep Kiara
Because she was cut from Holo5

>>1715656
They would literally be throwing that poor bastard in the vipers pit. All the hate he would get from being the only guy in a group of girls would be overwhelming.

>>1715824
>>1715941
>>1716023
Clearly you have no idea about Nijisanji vtubers.

>>1719745
>girls, 1 guy, and 1 tranny
Throw me in, chief. I'm a tranny and I can take the heat and rrats off of the rest of you. I'd do it for you if you were a homostar/nijimale, anon.
Wrestling figured out that if you put in a heel or two, you can take hate off of your other talents.

>>1719745
Which is what I mean by "testing the waters". Remember that the EN talents aren't branded as "idols" so crazy Japanese idol culture crap doesn't apply to them. This would also apply to Holostars EN as well. They're "variety" talents. So, you throw a newbie there and by that I mean not a zoomer.
>All the hate he would get
It isn't like the person in question would go on immediate orgies with the girls. THey just have to get someone who simply won't flirt with the girls in his group.

>>1714914
>ALL the popular male vtubers outside of the west are all bishounen or femboys.
I don't think so? Yashiro, Maimoto, Chaika, Belmond, Joe?

>>1708588
Literally who?

>>1714914
Honestly I feel like the people that say shit like this and go around saying male vtubers are not viable in the west are the same people that don't even watch them.

>>1713214
>A small group of simps and money
>for a large group of simps and more money
Does it hurt knowing you'll never be invited to her discord with all her friends?
That you'll be relegated to having to throw 100 dollars just so she can murmur your chat and throw out the forced "thank you" and move on, never committing your name or message to memory?

>>1720890
I could say the same about some HoloEN members, and they've become some of the best assets Cover has.

>>1720048
Holy shit, is that why Kiara is in EN?

>>1708118
Goodbye Mint.

>>1721376
>Best
Not all 5
>Most lucrative in a short burst
Definitely

Did Sen have a "graduation", or did she just disappear one day?

>>1721444
Learn to read English you fucking mongoloid.

>>1721294
I've never really seen any reason that is actually convincing as to why they couldn't be. Some people come up with the reasoning that there aren't any existing popular indies. But whenever I have actually looked for male vtubers speaking English to see if this holds water none of them come near to measuring up to the popular Japanese ones. They almost always seemed to either just be uninteresting or felt generally low quality, have some weird out there design that is going to turn a lot of people off or feel like some kind of deviantart tier fanfiction character. And besides that its not as if there were any indie EN female vtubers pulling HoloEN girls numbers before they launched, most indie female vtubers have garbage numbers too.

>>1711301
Greatmoonaroma is Korean

>>1721472
Latter but she wasn't a chuuba in traditional sense anyway

>>1721472
Senzawa? Technically shes not gone all her accounts are still active as of last time I checked. She didn't really stream on any kind of regular schedule like there were literaly multiple months between streams sometimes.

>>1709582
Oh, so the 0 views guys are the ones who chose "gender: other"

>>1719717
ugh... reps.... i'll just take your word for it

well this is good for mint but bad for me since i'm probably not going to watch her new incorpo-rational form. congratz mint

well this is good for mint but bad for me since i'm probably not going to watch her new incorpor-ational form. congratz mint

>>1721472
She announced her death during Otaku Vs episode 2.

Sayonara Mint. I only wish I'd caught more streams. The Ratchelor stream lately was a blast.

>>1709719
Phoenix was rejected twice before she finally got put on EN, so there's always a chance.

>>1719629
lolcow banned vtubers already cause seaniggers keep derailing the thread kek

>>1713309
Yeah, "just go out and have a high-income sidejob while streaming so you can afford to not read or encourage superchats". Why doesn't everyone do this?

>>1714329
Suisei also bashed her head against Covers door until they let her in with her model. That's another of the things that will never happen again.

>>1714390
That's already quite a lot of Nijisanji girls. I would say its more common for them not to read it than to read it, or some of them just pick it up occasionally if its the right timing and they think its funny or interesting, not that many do superchat reading time after the main stream.

>>1720000
NijiID,NijiEN/IN, and NijiKR are prime examples of branches left to sink or swim. Bora is an exception, without her japanese pandering and apex skills she would be performing as well as the rest of the KR branch.

>>1725486
i really dont get what you mean by sink or swim, what do you think they should be doing with those branches for it not to be the case?

>>1725486
Sink or swim is good though. It promotes making good content in order to succeed, like with Bora. Getting dead subs due to advertising means nothing.

>>1725606
I think he means they don't advertise them enough or some shit. Not like they were all part of Nijifest besides IN.

Mint's said in her streams that she'd be more interested in Nijisanji than Hololive, but that doesn't mean it's not a possibility.

She's a really fun vtuber. Great voice, fun, cozy personalty, and cute character design. I'll be looking forward to seeing where she turns up.

>>1724005
rrat

I hope that Niji EN will collab and be friends with Holo EN like the ID branches.

>>1725606
>>1725618
Sink or swim is a bad policy because producing vtubers has associated opportunity costs and because the attention marketplace is finite in size. The idea that you'll produce as many vtubers as possible and see what sticks results in a handful of big successes, a number of moderate successes, and a large population of failures, which is hardly an efficient approach. What's more, it's detrimental from the standpoint of building a name and reputation. A company creates loyal customers by producing consistently good products; an exceptional product from a company that has an inconsistent track record may not be easily recognized for that reason. See: How Luna went from being a sub-50k nobody in Niji to a 500k+ big shot just by joining Cover instead. The same person doing the same activities with an arguably less appealing design than her previous one became vastly more successful, primarily because Hololive, like it or not, has a reputation for quality across the whole organization that Nijisanji does not.

>>1726091
Wow she has more dead EOP holofag subs so what?

>>1726091
Also Hololive tends to give all their talents similar chances for sponsorships, merch and songs.
Luna for example is currently doing a promo stream with NND.

>>1726091
And yet Niji is more popular in Japan why? Whatever they do seems to work there.

>>1726300
Why do you keep complaining about EOPs if those will be the main NijiEN audience? Expect a Global thread of your own soon.

>>1726537
Because they aren't dead EOPs. Everyone knows they follow all the hololives just because but then don't actually watch them. That's why they get as many views as nijis with a quarter of their subs.

>>1709054
Anon. Nobody cares.

>>1726303
Nijisanji does way more of that shit though.

>>1726482
>And yet Niji is more popular in Japan
More like the JK gumi, Sanbaca, and Tokyo Ghoul are more popular, with the rest of the organization and all of its international branches being irrelevant.

>>1721636
Because of VRchatfags

>>1726091
I think that has much more to do with Hololive being more focused as a brand than anything else. You want cute girls playing at being idols while doing some casual gaming and occasionally singing Hololive has got you covered, they debut a new member and you know thats what you are getting, if you liked the other ones chances are you going to like that one. Nijisanji has a much broader variety of members with different appeals to audiences that don't really crossover so much. There isn't really any good reason to expect the same audience that likes Kuzuha for example to also like and automatically subscribe to Maimoto, Ange, Ichigo, Belmond, their content and appeals is all so vastly different.

>>1725900
can't say the same about the individual fanbase though

>>1726620
So that's a lie, any other lies you wanna spout?

>>1708118
watching her videos, but surprisingly shes very japanese vtuber like. her voice isnt roasie voice at all and she doesnt sound like an ironic weeb either. overall she seems to be a very "decent" vtuber. personally i prefer her to holo en members. shes actually trying to act like a jp vtuber learning from them and its not awkward at all.

>>1708118
Unlike Nova, Mint is someone I actually watched. I was even part of her "membooship", for a couple months so I can talk about her. She's pretty cute and funny, without relying on sex or poop jokes. She also keeps a bit of a "kayfabe" going if you are into that, so she usually says "when I was a little wisp" or "before I became a ghost" when talking about her past stories. She's probably at her best when she has any of her weird stream ideas, like that one time she did a karaoke of her singing only Ikenai Borderline 50 times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoSHyzfnmGI

And it wasn't even a punishment game or anything. She said she just felt like it. She knows a decent amount of japanese. And has never hidden that she was more fond of Nijisanji than Holo. This, coupled with the fact she was doing pretty well lately (and barely got to use her new model she hyped for over a month), makes it very, very likely she's getting into NijiEN. Or she just gave up of streaming entirely because her numbers aren't that great (just slight above average for indie standards), which would make me sad. And while Holo Vsinger is also a possibility, as much as I like Mint, I don't think she's a particularly great singer.

>>1727395
>Ikenai Borderline 50 times
Do you know any other vtubers that have done shit like this?

>>1727628
Chima from Nijisanji

>>1727628
Polka did Blue Clapper 30 times I think?

>>1727742
Oh yeah, I shut that out of my mind.

>>1727683
Only Chima? What about Tamaki and her Nyancat stream?

>>1727628
Chima did a hundred Freesias.

>>1727628

Chima with Freesia, Levi Elipha with Rage of Dust

>>1727147

Do you even follow Japanese vtubers? Only 1/3 of the JK-gumi is in their top 10. Kanae, Himawari Honma and Sasaki are bigger than the Sanbaka girls. There's a reason why Honma is the one getting a Nendoroid alongside Kuzuha.

>>1726091

It's just brand recognition lol. You sound like the kind of person who would say that McDonalds has a high "reputation for quality" because everyone knows who they are.

>>1719717
do your narrative reps before posting

>>1727262
Maybe a friendly collab to show how retarded the console-war is will be just what is needed. ah who am I kidding, nothing will stop that, though I'd still like to see friendly collabs

>Mint will delete or wipe out the contents of her accounts. One of which is from her YouTube channel, which her videos/streams will be privatized.


ARCHIVE EVERYTHING

>>1727272
>1 mil sub vs 700k subs
>same avg vid views
>700k subs has more concurrent views
Hmm

>>1726091
>less appealing
Now you're full of shit, for her voice that model is way better

>>1745830
Did she say this during her Pheonix Wright stream today?

>>1745844
Mito also doesn't stream everyday unlike rushia. She regularly goes 2-5 days with no streams and sometimes even weeks when something important like Nijifes is happening.

>>1747185
Its like whenever Ayame streams it becomes an event due to how little she streams.

Yes the Official Discord which she own is also going to be deleted - her twitter will be deleted

Archiving the the Ace Attorney & Karaoke & Song Cover ASAP

>>1727272
>>1693044

>>1714914
>>1710863
I'd say its mostly lack of good none meme male EN chuubas.
Holostars is pretty big with EOPS (about 70% of its audience is EOP)
The thing holding back EN male v-tubers is lack of networking and shooting themselves in the foot with excessive fujobait, and a lack of really trying, and a lack of understanding of what the EN audience wants.
Think less Kuzuha, think more Engineer gaming

>>1714945
I know brother. I hope she's not retiring because of her recent ulcer that would make me especially sad

>>1739385
Niji and Holo JP already collab a lot and look at the fanbase.

>>1708118
>following Kenmochi
u-uhm based and cunny pill

>>1721376
Why are nijifriends so hostile towards holofriends...

>>1708518
Shirogane Yui as well

>>1709719
That's more of a reason to suspect she's in Gen 2.

>>1719629
kiwifarms get their doxes from 4chan you retard

>>1753530
gen 2 isn't even done taking applications yet and we have a confirmed nijiEN graduating around this time so

Say hello to your first confirmed nijiEN >>1749981

>>1753375
Cmon, that anon was right tho. Weren't Miko and FBK literal who's before hololive? I know that Subaru wasn't even a streamer and Ame was scraping bottom of the barrel on twitch. Now all of them are absolute superstars who kill it in viewership and SC.

>That one tako staring at Gura's cunny

>>1726091
All of those words when you could just say that it's brand recognition

.>>1727147
You clearly don't know Nijisanji, as I said before. Only Mito is that popular, Kanae, Kuzuha, Lize, Toko, Ange, Chihiro, Sasaki, Himawari and many others being popular. There's all different levels of popularity but they do have.

Today MyHoloTV is letting go of every asset but their gen0, wonder if they are gonna get scouted

Shirogane Yui is going to Nijisanji En can't wait to see what kind of character she gonna be

>>1724775
based SEAchads putting /cgl/ scum in their place

Appealing to westerners is a mistake and will ultimately destroy vtubing except for the annoying orange because he is the best.

So is this confirmed like the other girl or not?

>>1766502
Her deleting everything is probably a good indication.

>>1708118
Yeah, fairly sure Mint and Nova will be HoloEN Gen 2 before NijiEN, just given their interactions.

>>1766587
I know she has been mentioning health problems before this but there is no reason to nuke her channel over that

>>1768757
Cover's still taking applications for HoloEN Gen 2, aren't they? It's probably too early to know if they'll make it in and thus too early to quit because of it.

https://files.catbox.moe/5bbul5.mp4

>>1773901
Well, she's definitely chaotic enough to be Nijisanji.

>>1763832
Orange is next.

>>1773901
I'm gonna miss her handjob hands