/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>>17071775
>>17073148
https://absolutelabelservices.com/the-difference-between-a-single-an-ep-and-an-album/

Hmm interesting...
https://youtu.be/4METyCWkrcU

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Numbers are gay
and so are (you)

>>17073177
>>17058537
So fucking disingenuous kek Mito, Lize, Nui, Ange and many other girls in Nijisanji are above vspo. Amazing how this shit can be made objectively with numbers but you faggots still lie as heck

Those who said VSPO isn't inclining are delusional cause VSPO is dominating Nijisanji right now even without buffs.

>>17074012
It's a schizo you retard
They live in an alternate world

>>17073601
I love Isekaijoucho

>>17074015
Niji numbers are so bad. They need to be filtered out.

>>17074015
now pick the nijisanji streams that came before and will come after to see the result.

>>17074015
> dominating
> two of them are literally below Nui, Shu and Elira
Sure anon.

>>17058537
So true. Niji males are just blackholes. They suck everything during collabs. That Kuzuha Valorant yesterday is a proof that Niji females are just accessories to them.
VSPO girls knows how to be entertaining without being sluts so they can safely collab with the males and not be labeled as whores and such.

reminder that this is just a shitpost and you shouldn't reply to it. any retard saying niji females are corpses isnt here for numbers when a lot of niji girls are above vspo girls easily.

>>17074015
NijiEN have ccvid retard

Vegannation should sponsor fauna desu.

>>17074383
fauna just ramblin about vegan food has almost convinced me to try cooking a few vegan meals myself

for contrast, whenever gura talks about vegan food I worry that she is going to die

How do we get loserbait to apologize for Council? Their mere existence makes me wake up in crying fits and sleep in frustrated whimpering. HoloX is the only thing keeping me sane.

>>17074015
Nui's afternoon streams usually end up having around 5k+ viewers. I think they're just experiencing a general decline.

Usually I make fun of people trying to start shit comparing likes to CCV between EN and JPs, but Fauna getting 9.2k likes in less than hour (obviously higher than her peak as always) is a lot faster than usual.
Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people are tabbed out rn and not counted.

>>17074359
>a lot
Like 3

VSPO did what NijiEN failed to accomplish over the past years, getting at least 10k simultaneous viewers on just regular streams.

>>17074752
dude just be japanese and stream apex lol

holy shit

>>17074478
Fauna is nature, so it makes sense that she's vegan. Gura is a shark. Sharks eat meat, not seaweeds.

>>17074498
I really hope Ark kickstarts Kronii's autism again.

>>17074802

FBK can't stop winning

>>17074802
>33.1k likes
It would've been a far cry for any niji posts, but the post actually reached to Junichi

>>17074802
FBK really knows how to make mundane shit entertaining. No need to resort to whoring herself in the process.

>>17074802

>>17074802
when is EN going to get their Fubuki?

>>17074934
If this was a Niji tweet, easy 80k+ likes.
Her tweet when she finally got the Golden Magikarp was like 80k likes, which would've been 140k with a topic.

VSPO dominating Nijisanji on head to head matchup.

>>17074986
not only that, but she can be consistent at it, see Ame as counter example
>can make content that is engaging and entertaining
>drop it after the first stream

EN Numbers

>>17074752
? they have been doing that almost every week
>>17074606
Mito, Lize, Nui, Ange, Sasaki, Furen and others are most of the time above them.

>>17075052
That is why Myth is the failure of the century, they have no figure for everyone to look to when shit is whack. They don't have a rock. There is no person who you can trust not to be insane or self interested in EN. It's not a cultural thing, there are many people in the EN world who can be a rock but Cover didn't find them.

debidebi dethroned

>>17075429
subs gain this month are ass an not only for EN

>>17075052
Probably never unless a western hag is interested in being a vtuber

>>17075312
Congrats anon for beating the bottom of nijisanji JP! Even though two members still are above vspo members kek

>>17075199

It's at 116k likes now. if they had a topic at the time I could see this at 200k or something lol

>>17075312
You don't even watch vspo you freak. I doubt that even 5% of you watch them.

>>17075467
yeah, pretty much everyone is 10k less than usual, Gura touched 70k/month for the first time last week I think

>>17075579
No need to be hostile, bro. I watch VSPO and VSPO adjacents like the Holos, Merise and Kanae.

>>17075601
that endurance stream really helped mayorin, i wonder if gozaru will do one

>>17074084
ME TOO!!!

Will Koyori Body Inspection come close to Iroha? I dont think so unless Laplus shit the bed and cancels her stream.

>>17075429
I think low tier Holos like Amelia Watson being in the top ten of subbed vtubers in the world is a disgrace. I can't think of a single memorable thing she has done for the company or vtubing as a whole but there she is, with a silly high number and a crazy low number in everything else. She has one of the worst sub to VOD view ratios in the company.

>>17075734
who the fuck is mayorin?

>>17074802

>>17075601
>HoloX is still growing
Damn. I guess we were wrong about them being failures EN sisters.

>>17075767

how do we save HoloEN?

>>17075762
she was dominating everyone that's not Gura on their first months, she had a 20k median specially on Apex, but then she just simply stopped playing, there was a point where Ame was catching up on subs to Mori despite not having the music buff
It doesn't help that for some reason, she dropped her whole relationship with Gura, all she had to do was to play MC with her

>>17075911
we don't, we simply wait for them to crash and burn to the ground while the hard working people rise

>>17075911
how is ouro "i hate streaming" kronii fucking 3rd, what the fuck is happening

>>17075911
NijiEn really made HoloEn look super lazy by comparison.

>goxlr shenanigans causing fauna's ccv to drop by 500

ame has not only killed her own numbers, she ruined other holo's numbers as well

>>17075821
Their weekly growth is quite similar to Council now, except for Sana.

>>17075995
This. It hurts me as a holofan to see Nijisanji rise but it's happening. HoloEN were handed the world and did nothing with it, NijiEN was handed al lot too but they're making the best with it and it's working out. HoloEN bhad a chance to stand and join the giants whose shoulders they stood on but chose to sit down.

>>17075911
>>17075995
>hard work

I think soft banning collaborations with the Holos is just a bad business decision. Hoshikawa managed to save herself by always sticking to Haachama.

>>17075911
Quantity =/= quality

>>17076185
oh yeah, because Sana really puts the quality streams out there!

>>17076185
If that's your excuse for laziness then Ayame is the Holo of the highest quality
Kneel.

>>17076179
The only time I've seen Nijisanji ban a HoloNiji colllab during 2021 was the Pomu/Kiara incident.

>>17076100
At least Myth has the HoloFes excuse. Council has nothing.

>>17076264
>he's this mad that even fucking sana gets more ccv than his nijien

I don't think EN needs their Fubuki but a lot of their streams(outside of amelia) just copy JP and have no originality whatsoever, that's the problem

>>17076296
no? I don't even watch nijis, why are you deflecting?

>>17076105
Funny enough I'm probably in that 500, I was tabbing between Mumei and Fauna until Fauna started just making constant noise with autotune to where I couldn't hear Mumei any more.

JP branch

>>17076305
not really, playing games is being original on the world of western streamers that just regurgitate react content daily, all the need to do is stream and people will watch them

>>17076305
They don't even copy the best ones. Things like Mikkorone were top tier. HoloEN could do that.

>>17076365

HAJIME! I KNEEL!

>>17076365
NijiJP hard work will surely make them better than holoJP, am i right?

>>17076365
I can't believe HoloJP is so lazy...

>>17076365
Hololivers are lazy all around.
>Hajime
lol

Also maybe I'm dumb but I could have sworn Hayama does 10 hour streams daily.

>>17076276
well duh why do you think everyone calls her ojou?

>do my superchat reps
>the majority of holox is losing to luxiem
>multiple of the boys surpass chloe but not koyori
what happened to hololive?

>>17076296
Nigga you really defending Sana on this? she's the prime example of what the Connor faggot said, you don't need to have talent when the brand carries hard

>>17075911
>>17076365
This is completely useless for discussion without the context. Why not post their watch time instead?

>>17076472
slowly dying to the hardworking male counterpart

>>17076472

Anon? This was literally posted last thread

January superchats so far
>Rushia - $137,143
>Chloe - $98,791
>Koyori - $90,881
>Pekora - $76,387
>Iroha - $65,403
>Matsuri - $61,339
>Ike - $59,924
>Vox - $59,021
>Nene - $54,666
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Towa - $49,655
>Lamy - $46,695
>Mori - $45,746
>kson - $45,660
>Kanata - $44,761
>Miko - $43,835
>Subaru - $43,757
>Kiara - $43,713
>Watame - $39,505
>Mysta - $39,378
>Chihiro - $35,384
>Lui - $35,215
>Luna - $32,942
>Noel - $32,908
>Laplus - $32,161
>Okayu - $30,831
>Amelia - $30,473

>>17076480
Sana is more talented and more accomplished that all the NijiEN members though. What are you on about?

>>17076480
I think even the brand has given up on Sana, people don't bother subbing to her or watching her streams anymore.

>>17076567
Oh naruhodo I was going on an older stat
mb g

>>17076583
does is show on stream? then people are not there for that
why are you defending her lazy antics? serious question

>>17076567
La+ fell off a cliff. It must be all the people supporting her roommate.

>>17076179
Letss gooo Qpi!!!

>>17076619
Somehow she lost her gachi so her respectable SC numbers are all gone.

>>17076700
>she lost her gachi so her respectable SC numbers are all gone.
How do her gachis donate if she doesn't even stream?

>>17076507
They won't because Niji will get mogged again as always in the numbers thread.

>>17076619
>does is show on stream?
ESL-kun...

>>17076619
Well, if you know that much then you should know that she has other stuff to do just like Ina. She actually has another fulltime job. What do you mean lazy?

negative views?
what does this mean? is it apyn8nverage, not total?

>Luca and Mysta Clubhouse Collab has two povs

Why they do this...

>>17076700
a wasted slot, there are 100ths of indies out there willing to stream 24/7 if they were given the chance

>>17076629
Laplus is pretty disappointing, trying to double dip so early on. She deserves to fall off a cliff.
>>17076700
All of her SCs were for her dog funeral funds.

>>17076765
It means a video was removed and thus all the views it had

>>17076680
Qpi is doing great at her recovery after her horrendous PL reputation.

>>17076765
they deleted something

>Mori's anti thread got banneds all over the boards
>Schizos starting to make appereance/here/
Sigh... it was good while it last..

>>17076788

How she is disappointing if she is literally the most watched of her Gen

>>17076836
go suck connor cock in your general nigga

>>17076767
They can't afford to waste any SC money.

>>17076815
Yeah. It was kinda slow compare to the others but at least the incline get to her.

>>17076846
You are responding to someone who typed this
>She deserves to fall off a cliff.
Tells you all you need to know

>>17076287
Ah yes, nijisanji banned that collab, not omegatranny with holoen who collabs with like 15 people in almost two years

Wasn't this tourney supposed to be around this time? pic rel was on the 24th
I guess it's because everyone has the coof?
or is it because the big nijis will no longer participate?

>>17076752
Still a wasted slot. She's not contributing anything at all to the Hololive brand. Speaking of which I'm subbed to several HoloEN clippers because I can't catch every stream and I've never seen a Sana clip, ever, in my life. Ina has 3x the streamed hours >>17075911

Nui is struggling to get 5k even with minimal overlaps on her afternoon timeslot.

Look, we all know HoloEN's abysmal hours streamed are a problem. We've talked about it to death in these threads.

But nothing's going to fix it other than HoloEN itself having a massive mentality change across the board. I don't get what the point of going around in circles about it forever is supposed to accomplish.

>>17076992
>tales part 8
there's your answer anon

>>17076992
Tales of arise blows as a stream game.
No one is immune, even Suisei tanked in her 2nd stream.

>>17076179
> stick to haachama
> had two collabs in the last month and before that she didn't collab with any holo for almost a year
> inthat mean time she inclined in subs and became a 5k ccv vtuber
Yea anon, makes total sense

>>17076931
Anon... Look at the year...

>>17077042

she was holding pretty well until this tho. part 6 got 6k peak and part 7 was 5k.

>>17076179
Maimoto sent his request to have Subaru in his koushien exhibition team, uimama okayed it, guess who don't. On the JP side whose side put up the collab wall is pretty damn obvious.

>>17073747
Then I shouldn't have added the price difference... noted. thanks!

>>17076949
Not everything is about viewership, anon. These girls are part of a gen, meaning all of them offer something different to the group.
Lui for example was recruited most likely for her leadership, experience and her ability to organize events.
Sana is a famed illustrator. It takes time for these people to grow.
Ina took about 1 year to establish her fan base and look at her now. This is something that Nijisanji can't replicate, to actually develop a talent.

>>17077083
that's what I said, last year it was on the 24th, can't you read?

>>17076992
Tales is a downhill ride past the midgame. Even Shellin and Gundou didn't bother continuing their playthroughs.

>>17077161
>Ina took about 1 year to establish her fan base
false, she is the second most consistent streamer of all HoloEN, her numbers never faltered and she showed her skills live since day one

>>17076836
nature is healing

>>17076995
Those posts (and most posts on this board) are just frustrated fans bitching anonymously, because they don't have an outlet elsewhere.
People here aren't going to tweet at Sana and call her a lazy bitch who is a waste of a slot.
They just bitch here, where other anons circlejerk with them and everyone moves on.

At the end of the day, if you write constructive feedback to them about how they would incline if they streamed more/worked harder, they'll just laugh since they don't care about numbers or inclining that much.

>17077112
Is this supposed to be bait?
>>17077161
Pray tell, what is she offering? She's meant to draw, yes, where's her drawing streams? Where's her work as Sana?
Sure, I'll give her a chance, but I'm really starting to lose my patience.

>>17077161
>Sana is a famed illustrator
Sana is a famed illustrator who from day one specifically said she did not want to draw much art on stream or do many (if any) art streams.

She has added nothing to HoloEN with her inclusion from either a support standpoint or an overall content standpoint. She is a non-entity. And I say this as someone who was hoping she'd find her passion for it as she spent more time with the other girls ala Mori.

>>17077161
>Sana is a famed illustrator
WHO CARES
she applied to a streaming job, imagine if I applied to a cook position on a restaurant and people hired me because I'm a famed web developer

>>17076836
>Banned
What are you talking about, there are five threads up right now, alongside a tiananemen square and a literal porn dump thread

>>17077275
i mean, it took quite a while and a traumatic collab for Mori to get past the "5%" bit

Post Mori NTR pic

>>17077161
Pretty sure Ina had the most solid fanbase ever since the start. There were some salty KFPs who labeled her as boring but the Takos have remained loyal. She's second in CCVs because her fanbase did not leave unlike Mori and Ame's.

>>17077248
Anon, look at Mio and Subaru's career. Hell, even Pekora and Korone aren't stars right from the start. These talents need time and Hololive can afford this.

>>17077309
and? despite Mori being a HUGE RETARD managing this job, she still managed to stream consistently since day one, even juggling multiple jobs

>>17077244
>they don't care about numbers or inclining that much
This is the true takeaway.
These threads care more about these girls' numbers than they themselves do. They're all making upwards of six figures annually with minimal effort involved.

>>17077338
Alright. I'll grudgepost you during Sana's first anniversary.

>>17077072
that guys a schizo who claims that every vtuber who has ever collabed with a Holo is Holo-buffed in a bizarre attempt to own Nijisanji. it's literally all he posts.

>>17077284
There are plenty of illustration streamers and vtubers, it is 100% a viable avenue for creating good streaming content and a solid overall following.

The problem is she doesn't even WANT to draw on stream. She applied with one of her core talents being her experience as a professional illustrator, and then has specifically avoided making it a core part of her content. That'd be fine if she at least supplemented it with a solid work ethic in really diving into gaming streams or making other forms of content, but she hasn't. She's done virtually nothing.

>>17077284
Apples to oranges. We're talking about entertainment here. The vtuber you enjoy watching today could totally evolve a different persona a year from now.

>>17077326
Ina has a solid fanbase but she wasn't a 10k median streamer right from the start.

>>17077338
Mio almost killed the company and made Okayu sad because she didn't know how to handle a compliment.

where did all these schizos came from, are the bait threads getting banned or something

>>17077453
yeah bro, it's the norm in the entertainment industry that they hire people that "could" be great in a year

>>17077453
>but she wasn't a 10k median streamer right from the start.
retard

>>17077512
this is literally the whole concept behind the idol industry, the entire things is based on you watching them grow

>>17077453
>she wasn't a 10k median streamer right from the start.
What?
Ina was 10k+ from day 1.
All of Myth except Kiara were and they peaked in Nov/Dec 2020. After that, some reclined over time while Ina has clinged onto 10k after all these months.
She literally started as a 10k median streamer.

>>17077559
keep in mind that on debut, they were still growing the market, vtubing was pretty much new on the western world, so they EARNED their numbers

>>17077042
>>17077045
>>17077189
That's basically Nui's content like Korone and Okayu being known for playing retro games. Nui's stream should average 5k and she's struggling to reach that.

>>17077561
let's be retarded for a moment and assume you are right, when is she supposed to become a great streamer?

>>17077620
You can look at any random month on 2020 and Ina is consistently 10k+ median

>Schizo complains about stream hours for streamers that they don't even watch.

>>17077640
anon, even okayu was getting sub 4k playing omori, long games are truly poison for viewership

>>17077698
t. Sanalite

>>17077698
I watch Ayame

>>17077698
How can I watch somebody that never streams?

>>17077770
My condolences.

>>17077698
>Doesn't even stream
How am I supposed to watch? serious question

>>17077680
NTA but just research the difference between KPOP and JPOP. Watching idols grow is actually a thing.

>>17077833
I don't see her growing the way she is and she has told chat multiple times that she doesn't plan to be different

Is this VSPO's new meta? They practically dominated this time period.

>>17077948
They'll live and die by Apex. It's unsustainable.

>>17077948
Apex is buff right now because of the ALGS

>3 members of council streamed today
>4 schedules up
>2 guaranteed collabs in the next 2 streams
>Mumei’s song about to hit a million faster than Towa
>This thread: GRADUATE THEM

Can you guys sit the fuck down and stream A New Start instead of debating dumb shit

>>17077968
They have Minecraft too and they dominated with that the other day much to the chagrin of some Nijisanji fans.

>>17078031
only the first cover/original gets a buff unless they keep releasing stuff consistently

>>17078031
>Graduate Sana
FIFY. Also no that song is terrible.

>>17078091
It's not really that common of a rule.
Towa's Fact was a bit slower than Palette, which was 12 days to 1 mil IIRC.
Watame's 2nd song did better than her first and then she had a whole list of originals that had varying levels of success.
Suisei's Ghost is her 4th original most successful original by a wide margin.

>HoloEN is beaten by Vspo

>>17078037
VSPO girls collab with Nijisanji livers all the time and share a lot of fans with them. They're not competing with each other.

>>17078037
>Niji females used to rule the world
>now they have to keep VSPO at bay
At least they're better than 774 inc. and Noripro, for now.

>>17078202
Success for the songs is also closely related with the incline of the vtuber. Ghost was pretty successful because it coincides with her incline after the 500k subs concert.

>>17078416
That's true. I guess some people in here just love to engage in fan wars.

I am fine with people being arm chair managers but you guys are starting to become schizos now.

>>17078527
There are no normal people on 4chan.

>>17078527
Honest question, what exactly is schizo about taking issue with HoloEN's two most frequent streamers barely clearing the bar of JP's 15th, and for the entire branch to be streaming significantly less than nearly every single member of their most direct competitor in the same market?

It's a genuine problem, and one that I think it's fair to discuss and call them out for.

>>17076931
Cr cup was in January so Hal pushed this back until April.

>>17076629
someone who doesn't reallly read superchat will have a hard time keeping up.

>>17078609
T-they're preparing for HoloFes!

She has a very stable viewership. Eyeballing it, her CCV over the time should have a standard deviation of less than 5.

>>17078747
I honestly don't know what to think whenever I see anything about Verse. I feel bad for the girls but we all knew Sony would blow it from day one.

>>17078747
Will Sony pull the breaks on their 50 vtuber plan to let these grow and better gauge the market or will these 5 get sent to the abyss? I can't imagine it being comfortable for them to have 50 people right behind them to try and take whatever they can.

>>17078609
Schizos are complaining about stream hours for streams they are not going to watch.
>inb4 no stream to watch
You know you aren't going to watch it even if they are streaming. At least have the decency to complain about streams you care about watching but I guess that is too much for you schizos.
>But I care about Sana!
Proof it instead of bitching about her stream hours in the number thread

No matter how bad Sana is compared to the rest of HoloEN, it seems like she still has some fans. That's good I guess.

>>17078862
>you have to watch their streams to have the rights to complain about them
Woah woah woah slow down there thread police. Who are you to make new rules to stop people from shitting on your Sana?

>>17076931
You gotta look at what else is happening in apex. Just had a CR Cup, ALGS playoffs are happening, there's a new patch soon, holding it now would be stupid.

>>17078833
Sony just needs to pull one popular singer and have her sing the OP to a highly anticipated anime timed nicely with her debut and boom. Surprised they haven't done this with Mito since she's in the same fucking label as Aimer and LiSA.

>>17078922
She's still probably in the top 100 in the world at this in viewership out of a pool of 20k+

>>17078862
Naw, I don't even watch Pekora or King but I will comment on their numbers. I just see HoloEN not putting in work and I get said. I see NijiEN putting in work and I get happy.

>>17078833
Different people are probably in charge of the 50 group. They will never interact with verse.

>>17078985
Taking Mito from Nijisanji would be like slicing Nijisanji's heart out.
>Sony needs to pull
Are you the retard who thinks Sony could poach anyone they want and have normalfag celebrities do this? Maybe they can get grip n sip reaper on discount but that's about it.

>>17078985
Any popular singer is better off going indy or waiting for a holoslot

>>17077042
that tits tho

>>17078609
They don't need to put in long hours when an hour stream can get 100k vod views. Just needs to stream daily. They slacked early Jan but they're picking up pace again.

>>17079105
Dude, just watch porn

>>17079166
>Just needs to stream daily.
But this is the exact problem, it's that HoloEN has had significant problems with consistency and regularly streaming. I think the only girl that immediately comes to mind that would actually fit that bill is Mumei, who has streamed frequently but at low hours.

>>17079265
Don't forget Kiara.

>>17079302
Kiara both streams frequently and for solid hours, she's the outlier for HoloEN generally speaking.

>>17079166
Basically this.
I get the obsession with hours streamed, but this isn't Twitch, and I'd honestly take 12 hours worth of streams in 6 streams a week over 3 streams with 15 hours. If anything it's more work to do the larger number of streams since you have to plan a bigger variety of content, do more thumbnails and potentially juggle a bigger pool of an audience.
In an ideal world where individual streaming stamina wasn't an issue, sure it'd be nice to get 20-30 hours out of everyone a week in HoloEN. >>17079166

>>17076480
He's still wrong faggot, Sana had at least a good resume for herself, she still didn't luck in.

but she is still shit and deserves to be graduated

>>17078202
Palette was just over 13 days while Fact was a bit over 19 days. Bit less than a week difference. There's a bunch of reasons for this, Palette was very hyped off being a surprise at Bloom, being her first orisong and having a impressive MV that told Towa's story with lyrics written by her. Fact however, while a good song, was a bog standard MV after her anniversary live and being the 3rd big song for Towa from niki doesn't quite have the hype behind it. Then the other songs from the EP started getting released digitally per week taking attention away plus Haiiro with Suisei coming out a couple weeks back and still doing well. I think the better numbers would have been to release AKUMA after the live, something different and thematic to Towa with a good hook to get repeat listeners with the debidebi.

>>17076815
can I have QRD on her PL, was it bad? I watched her around her debut and I noticed she had much bigger number than her mates, especially as a newcomer. I thought people just like gyaru lol

>>17078985
>since she's in the same fucking label as Aimer and LiSA.
So was Kaguya Luna and we know how that turned out. If anything Mito got the golden goose treatment with the allstars composer lineup she got for her first album without some sort of devil pact restricting her activities too harshly.

You seem to misunderstand what Sony can and can't do. They can't force anyone to join, but they sure can propel them to relevancy when they want just by slapping them on stuff people watch, just look at ReoNa.

>>17079265
All of council has schedules up. Gura and Ame will probably post theirs tomorrow. They're picking up their pace now.
It's also winter so I can understand their laziness.

>>17079166
>>17079344
Some En should do "work" streams. Making thumbnails, creating schedules, or literally studying.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=yBaPo_UAp0g

>>17079489
Someone mentioned hiring a music composer for ID3/EN3. How would they fair if they composed music on stream?

>>17079344
15-20 hours a week is the sweet spot of not burning through content overly fast but streaming enough.
doing 30+ hours they either burn through content or their vocal cords too fast. Marine is a good example of this, she pretty much burned through all her interesting life stories in under 2 years.

>>17079606
It's a zatsudan with extra steps. If they're boring noone will watch. If they're not boring people will watch. It's not the act of composing itself that draws people, it's how they explain their work and how well they can make their viewers comprehend what us going on

>>17077275
>Mori
lmao

>>17079606
https://youtu.be/BQUnJTQnQHQ
Mori did something like that.

100 is for grownups only, I guess.
But this seriously looks like 3 streamers sharing the same viewer pool.

>>17078609
Honest counter question - do stream hours consistently produce better results in a vaguely linear fashion? Even if I willfully ignore Gura as an extreme outlier for everything, you still have people Ayame having single-digit stream hours per month yet still being mid-high tier whenever she does show up. Or Calli/Suisei usually having really low stream hours (Jump King notwithstanding) but they incline anyways because of their music. Or Ina regularly being lowest/2nd lowest in stream hours for Myth, yet being the /#/ darling for consistency and Myth CCV.

>>17079606
If it's catchy enough, I'd steal those tracks before the stream ends

>>17079255
they dont have tits like Nui

>>17079683
Some people would be curious and the potential viewer interaction is a bonus

>>17079796

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cDggGQT-0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cDggGQT-0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cDggGQT-0M

>>17079900
Womb goblin

>>17079743
What I care about first and foremost is content. Quality content, sure, but content overall as well. HoloEN has consistently had problems filling airtime, sometimes even in EN's primetime slots, and I don't believe that that failure equates to every single stream they *do* have proportionally becoming higher quality as a result.

Am I asking them to go Twitch tier and stream 16 hours a day? Of course not. But to imply that stream frequency/time and stream quality are anything other than independent of one another would be implying that the JP girls who stream more are inherently streaming lower quality content, which I absolutely take issue with.

>>17079918

that thumbnail scared the hell out of me

>>17079918
Not a HoloID3 announcement but I'll take it

>>17079918
Oh shit.l, Kronos debut.

>>17079918
>council are just femboys

>>17079879
Curious means they'll maybe click on it but doesn't mean they'll stay. It's something different I guess, but not necessarily something better. It's just another zatsudan but with extra steps, how they interact and retain the viewers is up to them as a streamer and doesnt really have anything to do with them as a music producer or composer

>>17079918
luxiem killers

>>17078416
the retard with the vspo shit dont watch vspo in the first place. he just wants to shit on nijisanji by using vspo, even though on the entire graphic of the dumbass, tehre's nijisanji members above vspo. and overall niji members are much above vspo as well.

>>17079348
At least people aren't calling for Council's deaths today and just graduation.

>>17078833
i think it's different arms of Sony doing verse and the 50 Vtuber thing. Sony is one of best examples of JP conglomerate clusterfuck

fucking Stellar Cycle Campus can pump the ads, Sony is just letting verse fade into the abyss on their own.

>>17078430
Mito, Lize, Ange and many other female nijis might as well not exist to keep up your retarded narratives lmao

>>17080004
I think it's gonna be more like a skit collab instead of zatsudan.

>>17079918
council is now quite literally trans, congrats, I guess.

>>17078994
Niji EN putting in work but still being shit.

though I actually hope they catch up and light a fire on Council's ass

>>17080038
if anything holostars EN would fuck holostars, retard

>>17080240
Luxiem already killed holostars

>>17079918
I thought Cover dropped HolostarEN for a sec

>>17079918
an ikemen stream? if it just like a group zatsu kinda meh

>>17080279
Luxiem and Stars aren't playing the same game.

>>17080004
If they are already doing the work a new song, why not stream some of the busy work. You get more streams and get more work done.

>>17080329
Premier

>>17080329
Seems like a prerecorded premiere like Baewatch?
There's credits for mixing, narration and writing in the description.

>>17080199
Luxiem is beating Council. Way more SCs and comparable viewership. I don't think anything short of meds would make Council give a shit. They are such a woeful, retched existence that the only way to fix them is with a time machine to make sure they were never born.

>>17080120
If a HoloX member got poached they probably got poached for the 50 vtuber batch. I would love the shitstorm if one was Delta, that'd put Mori off the front page really quick.

Time for some more interesting numbers

>>17080199
What can NijiEN do though, none of the girls are good enough to compete directly with HoloEN and the guys are off in a completely different market.

>>17080421
Jesus, gen 3 is strong

>>17079918
>council actually did a project
Whoa...

>>17080421
I only bothered with Niji EN and Hololive because there are too many Nijisanji girls overall

>>17080399
>>17080402
oh, that's way more interesting, i thought it would be like a lamer version of the club host streams
i hope they try to va this instead of using shit voice changers

>>17080199
basically, nijiwhores need to suck 50 dicks to earn a livable wage while holowhores can sell bath water and earn 10x

I'd be mad too if my oshi sucks 50 cocks a day kek

>>17080490
Fauna just got her goxlr

>>17079918
What?

>>17080568
Become homo

>>17080421
I'm stupid and mistyped the numbers for Pomu, corrected graph here

>>17080463
>Marine as the clear lead
>Pekora and Gura coming in close after that
>Fubuki and Rushia after them
I was initially surprised how high Gura was given the amount of time and being EN, but the fact that she has a pretty big JP following and 3.7+m subs kinda makes the number make sense.

>>17080689
Flare needs more art

>>17080689
>>17080421
Is Gura based on the GawrGura tag, thejp text, or a mix of all?

>>17077716
i'm pretty sure omori had low numbers even at the beginnning

https://youtu.be/J7FgSQZSZRw
Will they play in the JP server or make their own?

>>17079918
This is just a figment of our imaginations as anon told me HoloEN doesn't stream or do any work outside of their non-existent streams, sorry to disappoint.

>>17080417

>Luxiem is beating Council. Way more SCs

Uh, you have the data for that? How much SC Council got in the first month?

>>17080352
I agree that there's a certain appeal to it. A sneak peek on their upcoming songs so you can see how it went from this to that

>>17080838
"GawrGura" which has more overall art in both categories. I'm actually surprised Pixiv hasn't set them up as aliases like they have with some of the others.

>>17080888
JP Server

>>17080864
The first two streams had better numbers. The mid game for Omori was low in numbers for Mori too.

Passed Botan.

>>17080864

She got 6k in the first two episodes and then 4k for the next two

>>17080417
i'd have a fucking laugh if it's delu, i follow her and most her fans are corpo antis. i'd love to see them seethe

>>17080689
Fauna is going to include with horse porn

>>17079918
Really now? I hope it does well because if it doesn't council is gonna get even way more hate if it turns out cringe af

should Cover do another Bloom-like concert? I feel like Bloom was a huge success.

>>17081128
There is no horse porn in the "CeresFauna" tag (thank god)

>>17081293
They need to do more concert, period

>>17081293
Bloom 2 will include all of En and all three gens of id

>>17080927
NTA but here is Council's first month of SCs vs. Luxiem's January, bear in mind there's still 6 days left this month and also importantly this *isn't* the boys' first month of superchats, all of them opened them in December so no monetization stream buff like Council have
>Kronii - $86k
>Sana - $42k
>Mumei - $37k
>Baelz - $32k
>Fauna - $25k
>Total - $222k

>Ike - $59k
>Vox - $59k
>Mysta - $39k
>Luca - $29k
>Shu - $26k
>Total - $212k

>>17081293
they're cranking out original songs for all talents. they might have enough new songs for a full album by june/july. might have a summer concert.

>>17081293
I want to say the same thing to nijisanji but with Light Up Tones. insisting on live audience for Fantasia was dumb as shit.

>>17081313
https://youtu.be/PD2LnnBBkuk
1:14:30.

>>17080441
Well, Noel and Flare still lagged behind . It's the usual trio PekoMariRushi leading (and Gura)

>>17078031
If you want me to stream A New Start you better be streaming this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGkeUaX-zk

>>17080513

>>17074359

>>17074802
Even the Pokemon World Champion kneels down to this fox.

https://twitter.com/shadeviera/status/1485843225026109440?s=21

>>17081713
Fubuki's plan of the eternal pokemon arc is almost complete

>>17081713
why/how is Fubuki so popular? not that I'm complaining since she deserves all her success for always being there for the other girls.

Hag 10k Get!

Mio 10k

>>17075911
The obsession you faggots have with them streaming every single fucking day will never not baffle me. Get another fucking hobby. I don't even have enough time in my day to watch all of HoloEN much less follow another organization.

Also I would say number of streams matters more than just raw hours streamed. I'd rather my oshi stream for 2 hours a day for 5 days in a week (10 hours) than do one 12 hour stream and then fuck off for a week (12 hours). I bring this up because you have Bae at 11 hours-ish but she also have like 8 streams in that time frame.

>>17066232
It's unfortunate her co-leading partner has to back out.

https://twitter.com/takamiyarion/status/1485527918730039296

>>17081459
The risk is too high and I have a hard time imagining a significant amount of people who buy physical won't buy digital. The only problem is if you can put on a show worth paying for since there are tons of free content.

>>17076365
Koyori is really taking after her oshi Miko!!! Just more proof that 35p are created from superior stock and run vtubing.

>>17081713
He's holofag so

Wolfmama at 12k and is about to beat pot game.

>>17078031
Too little too late. If they can be this productive for a month I will kneel but otherwise I am in the right to demand their graduation.
Anus tart isn't great.

>>17082046
Is this a concert of she just didn't get a 3D live together in time? Or is it bad taste to do one after Fantasia got bonked?

>>17082399
the latter

>>17079952
>implying that the JP girls who stream more are inherently streaming lower quality content
They are. Gura switches it up to give us a variety of content while Pekora just plays Dragon Quest for 12 hours.

Mio @ 14,737

Took him 15min to reach his waiting room numbers. Susan doesn't like him one bit otherwise this could have been another 2.8k stream.

>>17082442
Pekora also gets THROUGH the games ASAP though, in as few streams as possible so her overall content doesn't just become part 15 of DQ (I'm looking at your Kiara). It's fine to do both long and short streams, as long as you don't end up in the trap of doing the same thing over and over and bleed your audience because of it.

>>17082442
>Gura switches it up to give us a variety of content
Here are the last 25 streams by Gura, to prove or disprove your statement

>>17081889
She isn't

Much like Reddit duck who was carried by a meme game (Yakuza). Fubushit was carried by a meme in general (magikarp). When she stops playing Pokemon she will go back into the gutter with her 4k viewership.

Another dominant showing by the Holos and their friends. Nijis are having difficulty competing even with the Yugioh buff.

>>17082708
HoloCHADs don't accept any NijiFUCKINGFUCKERPIECESOFSHIT as being associated with anything Hololive. Get them out of there.

Pekomoon may happen today.

>>17082708
>Haachama friend
>Polka friend
>Okayu friend
You may have a point there

Gonna be real, Laplus’ numbers can seem so fake sometimes. I feel like I recall Towa or someone playing Ib and that shit was getting like what, 2-4k?

Meanwhile, thousands are pouring in to watch Laplus. It’s not even the 10k+ that bothers me but legitimately seeing the number go up by the thousands in a blink of an eye. Meanwhile, everyone else in JP/EN takes a good amount of time to build up their views.

>>17081446
Just making sure, did you get Council's numbers from Hololyzer or Playboard?
Because Fauna's monetization stream is infamously fucked by playboard since she didn't keep her chat record.
Hololyzer tracked her SCs live and it was ~$10k more than Playboard's number IIRC.

>all of them opened them in December so no monetization stream buff like Council have
Luxiem didn't have as much momentum as they do now during their monetization streams.
Ike has 2 $10k+ streams in January alone, whereas his monetization stream was only $2k.
Hell, his Deltarune stream last night was already $4k so I don't think monetization stream buff was really a thing for 3 of them.
>Monetization streams:
>Ike: $2.4k
>Luca: $4.2k
>Vox: $2.4k
>Mysta: $6.3k
>Shu: $5.8k

$20k from Mysta's $39k this month came from his 2 birthday streams too.

>>17082708
They want a certain sort of person playing Yugioh. Some Duel Links channel has made a killing with the release of Master Duels getting the highest CCV it has seen. Before you'd see them get 3k~5k CCV. Right now during dead hours they get around 10k CCV and so far the peak I've seen was 18k CCV and it's just a continuous stream with the guy and his girl tagging out to keep the stream going.

I don't think any of the Niji's were Yugioh or card game centric so it doesn't benefit them as much as streamers that lean towards that.

>>17082757
Unlikely, and there are 9 ARK streams within 2 timeslots so the overlap will be insane.

>>17082757
Too much ARK streams, won't be surprised if pekora sub 20k today.

>>17082708
what are the usual numbers for okayu's sister?

>>17082800
She does short streams, and she spends a LOT of time on twitter basically grooming her fanbase no? It means they'll want to tune in whenever she does stream since she's not gonna be there for hours and hours. Not to mention she kind of got funneled a bit by Mio since she ended right as Mio finshed up.

>>17082884

>>17082800
>>17082935
Lap+ has another stream in 2 hours

>>17082954
2 7k streams for yugi, seems like a buff for her then

>>17082800
Laplus is a real top tier holo, a consistent 15-20k+ CCV streamer.
It's like asking why does Gura get 20k playing RE7, but someone like Fauna or Irys can only get 7k at most.
>Meanwhile, everyone else in JP/EN takes a good amount of time to build up their views.
JPs least usually recover their waiting room within 4 mins.
It takes EN 7 mins at the soonest and 10+ mins if there's overlap.
EN has it way worse.

>>17083003
I hadn't even checked that far ahead. Well, it looks like she's going to pick up a pair of 20k streams then at this rate, assuming she doesn't bleed once Choco and Koyori start.

>>17082708
Honma used to be one of the biggest vtubers in the world and she's being beaten by a geriatric wolf and a barely legal homeless person.

Hololive illegal view funneling in action (picrel)

>>17082800
>comparing a monster like Laplus to a bottom feeder like Towa
Wow, the difference in numbers is real surprising

>>17083075
She might auto-funnel.

>>17083049
More like assuming her internet doesn't die on her like last time again.

>>17083049
How long do IB streams last? I hope she funnels in Koyori, I do not want to see Pink doggo sad.

>>17083121
This one is planned for 2 hour, lap+ has kareoke stream.

>>17083116
Oh gods please don't curse the poor Kusogaki's internet like that.
>>17083121
3 hours for the game normally, I don't think she'll manage to finish it before her Karaoke stream and will probably do this in two parts.

Jesus, idk when was the last time Shiina had a 10k+ solo gaming stream. Yu-gi-oh buff is crazy

Oh man, look at Choco's chat. it's like 80% Koyo fans. Kinda sad.

>>17083203
>Yu-gi-oh buff is crazy
Still inferior to Mr koro game tho

>>17083214
Koyo is pretty unity, maybe they take after her.

>>17083214
>>17083244
What?

>>17083214
That happens with literally every single body inspection stream.

>>17083214
Lmao. You're not kidding.

>>17083203
This is unironically where limited permissions is doing a good thing for Holos. So glad they aren't getting stuck playing this boring ass card shit. I don't care about the meme numbers, this game is boring, dry, and lame as fuck.

>>17083296
this isn't the quality thread faggot

>>17082800
>t. never seen Peko at her full potential

>>17083296

>I don't care about the meme numbers

Anon?

>>17083353
you can interpret this 2 ways and both are correct

>>17083296
This is numbers thread anon. This is not the thread for you. Niji can easily do a tournament for this game and it will do well as usual

>>17083214
>>17083268
How many members has Choco gotten?

>>17082676
Fubuki is far from overtaking Miko you falseflagging piece of shit you can stop crying now
Shit on Aqua or smth she's ahead of Miko

Why does Youtube love these faggots so much? They cleared their waiting room numbers not even a minute in.

>mysta and luca cluhouse 51 colab
>split pov
did they realise they cant keep their sea fujo and going for the split sc ?

>>17083598
sea audience, there is something about burger that make them either not count them or take ages to validate.
maybe is ebcasue the channels set to japan who knows but chubas with more asian audience are less affecetd.

NazunaKaga just started the VSPO God Field collab and is already at 7k.
Easy 10k, but will it be the first Vspo 20k this month?

>>17083615
Nijis always do split POV because SC > CCV for them.
CCV-wise, I'm pretty impressed that Luca is right on Mysta's tail rn.

>>17083772
He started earlier.

>>17083772
Can they beat Fauna's EN Gold?

>>17083598
Oof, it took Choco 7 minutes to recover waiting room.
That's EN-level.

>>17083831
i dont think anyone cares about sub10k numebrs

>>17083831
Probably? 6.1k in 14 mins is pretty fast.
Everyone loves Playhouse 51 afterall.
Irys/Bae got 13k 4 months ago and I think that was the last HoloEN one.

>>17082547
While it's true that Pekora spam one game a lot. She is self-aware enough to not spam it day after day since you would see her slotting different game between her long playthrough

>>17083831
The Council shit poster has made people overlook how damn consistent Fauna is. She never gets talked about but she might actually be the #2 in Council behind Kronii. Kind of crazy since she always slips under the radar.

I'd say Mumei has a higher ceiling but she isn't nearly as consistent as Fauna is.

>>17083934
Yea, she keeps the long-form jRPGs usually to the weekends for that reason. Is a good strategy.

Alienating the Holos is just not a sound business decision. Whoever suggested that should be crucified.

>>17079434
Man... they really wasted some good money from throwing luna. Welp not that it'll be amount much for them

>>17083189
>Karaoke stream
??? MK

>>17083932
Disappointing day for EN, if there was no split POV, they could have gotten a 10k+ Gold.

>>17084083
>15k get in 20 min
Go vspo go!

>>17083289
>5 out 19
that's not even the half

>>17081577
Damn. This is what nijiniggers are into?

>>17084151
VSPO is doing so well. I'd even say they are far more consistent in terms of performance than the Niji girls.

>>17084089
Yeah it doesn't matter to Sony on the whole, but someone probably had to explain why they were pissing money away and heavily investing in things that aren't going anywhere. Good way to get delegated to working from a storage room.

>>17084129
Gura is the only EN among all corpos on youtube that is basically guaranteed 10k. There is a huge log jam of ENs in the 5-9k range which is quite good and a lot of them are doing every well in that range.

>>17084100
The thumbnail for la+ says singing stream...
The title says singing stream...
Anon...

>>17083963
They’re all really solid streamers, excluding Sana because she’s not really a streamer at this point. Just kind of with the crew you know. But each one of those 4 can hit 10k on streams and even if they don’t, their numbers don’t drastically dip at all. And this is all with culling likely happening too.

Kronii is actually quite inconsistent since she plays a lot of slow, drawn out games, but I don’t hold it against her. She wanted to be a lets player I’m pretty sure and that’s okay. But yeah Fauna is definitely up there. Her fanbase always tunes in to anything she does

Go Mayori! Almost 10k with funnels.

>>17082800
That's how entertaining she is. She can make any game fun. She is the personafication of watching stream for the streamer not the game

>>17084205
its because English streaming is more competitive. vtubers are main players in JP streaming whereas they are still fairly niece in EN streaming

choco 10k
way slower than iroha's but i kind of expected it considering koyori's pretty much 4th in ccv on her gen

>>17084316
*niche

>>17084316
Yup. Whether people like it or not, vtubers have to directly compete with facecam streamers who’ve been the central point of western livestreaming for over a decade now. It’s always going to be an uphill battle for EN vtubers so even “moderate success” is great to see

>>17083963
If there's no overlap and her game isn't a huge debuff, Fauna is a lock for 7-10k, which is pretty good for HoloEN.

>I'd say Mumei has a higher ceiling but she isn't nearly as consistent as Fauna is.
I think that's undeniable, but I think Fauna's issue is she has a pretty low ceiling, even lower than Bae's imo.

I watch and like Fauna a lot but her style can be filtering (definitely no females, people who don't like ASMR are turned away, she's "bland").
She's a lot of people's 2nd/3rd favourite since her numbers get wrecked in multi-pov collabs or heavy overlap.
She also can't do quality collabs with JP senpais since she can't speak JP like Bae and her SC is oddly weak, but that's a problem for most of Council.

I just can't see a way for someone like her to incline beyond what she is now, whereas I think Mumei and Bae have more potential to grow.

>>17084220
Holostats tricked me

>>17084176
Nijis get a hell of a lot of R-18 artwork, proportionally.
Lize is close to the top, but it's usually self insert faceless men. Since she's the last big (unintentionall) unicorn target.
Seeing the ex-niji kaiji cucking both Ange and the audience is kinda funny

>9 Ark streams within 2-3hours
content overlap...

>>17084316
>>17084358
Nuance and perspective in the numbers thread!!! Its a goddamn miracle!! Thank you!!

so close to the first 20k!

>>17084259
I have a feeling that Fauna and Mumei are the only two that have found their "comfort zone". They are really warm up and integrate well with their own cotents and persona. Bae seems to still a lil bit confuse but she is own her way there, while kronii is still felt like she'll has nerve breakdown at any minute.
Guess streaming much

>>17084316
That, and there's some CCV fuckery going on with HoloEN that's hard to deny (shit like likes rising up nonstop while CCV stagnates or drops in the first hour, greatly overperforming VOD views within 24 hrs, the goddamn polls that exceed peak CCV in less than 5 minutes...etc)
I'm not saying Fauna or Irys are getting culled from 20k every stream, but I think they're losing a 2-3k viewers due to the CCV fuckery and probably get 10k more often than we see.

live chat is very slow.
like also low.
what happened ?

>>17084412
She needs to collab more with gura honestly. Their chemistry is too good.

>>17084481
my crackpot idea that builds on them having their channel set to japan, is that because of this youtube uses the JP servers to verify viewers so it takes longer and ends up not being as accurate.
obviously i can't think of anyway you can verify this but i could see youtube doing it

>>17084362
A big part of that ceiling is karaoke streams and Fauna is a terrible singer while Mumei and especially Bae are very good. Hell I'd put Bae 3rd behind only IRyS and Gura in HoloEN.

But yeah, your post is very good and presents all points that I agree with.

>>17084476
How many vtubers are in the collab? 12?

>>17084481
>VODs
Do you not realize that VODs might have nothing to do with CCV due to it's nature of being impossible to differentiate between VOD views from CCV and from people checking out the VOD afterwards?

Anya 432 viewers get

>>17084557

yeah

>>17084476
Honorary holos strong! Thanks towa!!

>>17084412
Goddamm I really wish Lize in Hololive but ofc it will never happen...

>>17084592

>>17084536
meant for >>17084362

>>17084479
I'd say Bae has actually stabilized quite nicely. All of her streams lately have hit at least 5k and she goes a bit higher during karaoke and collabs. The interesting thing about Bae is that she is hitting that 5k number while streaming all over the place at different times of the day.

>NA prime time
5k
>EU prime time
5k
>JP prime time
5k

Its very interesting

>>17084576
Well, I specified VODs within 24 hrs for a reason, altho there's no way to confirm there's no contamination.
The polls and overwhelming likes are stronger indicators of something being wrong anyways, even if its true that EN viewers like and chat more often.
I can believe JPs don't do engage as much, but my point is moreso with how much engagement ENs have, their viewership should be higher than what we're seeing.

Gura has enough obsessed fans that will go out and "like" her streams to the point she can get 30k likes on an ongoing stream, but that stream peaks at 20k and treads water for 2 hours?
That's just suspicious as fuck man.

Vspo at 22k

Does..does this have a chance at gold?

>>17084479
I agree mostly. I have no idea what goes on offline for them but I get the feeling that if it’s not mental illness/personal responsibilies, it’s probably just not wanting to put aside hobbies for Kronii. Remember, this is a girl who on debut showed everyone an entire panel of just webtoons she reads. Girl probably spends most of her days consuming content that keeps her sane or some shit.

But that aside, I think they’ve gotten much more comfortable being in front of people. They talk to their chat a lot and if I’m honest, seem like legitimately intelligent people. Fauna randomly spouts trivia or knowledge when she’s on stream and seems to like discussing things with people too. I’m most proud of Mumei though. She did a complete 180 from debut and is one of the best streamers to tune into now

>>17084557
>>17084595
14 of them. All of VSpo.

>>17084734
Low tier Holos gets a lot of likes compared to their CCV as well and even roommate streams.
Likes are just too inconsistent. Polls are a lot more reliable.
Pic rel.

>>17084530
someone is botting her CCV ?

Holos are weak today,
they need more streams and game perms.

It's not news, but this really is Luxiem's strongest timeslot by a ridiculously wide margin.
Luca, the rut of Luxiem, hit 7k earlier and this stream is now his highest CCV stream since his debut... while overlapping with Mysta.

PH51 collab is a buff ofc, but how often can you say a vtuber gets his highest peak in a split POV collab during the opposite of EN hours?

>>17084702
Bae managed to hold her own during her JP karaoke, and that night was a bloodbath + got taken down by Susan in the process.

>>17084576
You’re absolutely right but there’s plenty of moments where the other dude is right too. This is the most recent example of it, where Gura’s 20k ccv vod was only 30k behind Aqua’s apex which had 30k avg ccv and peaked at almost 40k. This is a common theme that goes on with EN vods honestly.

>>17084862
Yeah that was very impressive. She consistently held 7k that night despite going head to head with Pekora, Subaru, and Miko.......or was that the night Miko overslept? Either way, impressive.

>>17084794
Low tier holos pass that mark easily because you don't need a lot of likes to pass the peak (5k likes for a 5 hour stream that peaked at 3k isn't that unbelievable because of viewer churn)

Shit that is fucked is when like today's stream, Fauna got 10k likes within the first hour, but her CCV was stuck at 7-8k as her likes climbed by the thousands.

>Niji homos can no longer hit 10k during SEAtime
Legitimately reclining already. Soon they will be Edengumi tier.

>>17084906
To be fair, karaoke crowd is always different from those who watch games.