/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17036859
The current goal is in fact to decide on a new world map, come on at least apply yourself a little

>>17037001
You're right, I panicked. Make aa new one and let this slide? Or ask janny to prune?

>>17037139
Forget it, just carry on, there's no need to flood the board over one small mistake.

Further lore

/ag/ lore: >>16982972
/2434/ lore: >>16983324
/#/ lore: >>17005984
niji lore: >>17010485
/∞/ lore: >>17020534 >>17020794 >>17030248 >>17030835 >>17031541
haachama lore: >>17023473
Luna/matsuri lore: >>17024619
/nasfaqg/ lore: >>17027803
Anya-petra flag: >>16984731
Shishilamy flag: >>16985187
/who/ flag: >>16988212
haachama flag: >>17025642

>>17036859
What are the urban legends or some cryptids we can include?

>>17037192
I'm collecting the lore posts from the previous thread to add to the template for this one, i'll format it nicely too

>>17037245
Add on that /nasfaqg/ lore that was posted last thread, and other lores that were expanded on.

>>17037277
.. anon, that nasfaqg lore is in the list

>>17037245
ahh, beat me to it

>>17037274
Maybe make templates for every general? Standardization of the overview of the states, just so it's more comparative.
>>17037296
Whoops, I cannot read. Sorry.

I will be the first to plant the flag of the /hag/ tribe, join me my brothers as we worship the elder goddesses

>>17037416
Feel free to plant your flag, I'll be the first to plant my seed there

This map COULD work if anon didnt shrank every continent down that it creates a mega ocean on 2:1
Luckily we have the originals for each continents
>>17025192
>>16710105
Maybe someone with better design skill could give a hand

>>17037270
that is probably region dependent
/hlgg/ is going to have different cryptids and legends from /hfz/

>>17037328
Done

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

CURRENT GOAL:
>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the glory of your oshi are also appreciated

PREVIOUS LORE POSTS:
/meat/ barbarians: >>16927563
/ouh/ pilgrims: >>16972928
/hfz/ gladiators: >>16978229
divine principality of /pyon/: >>16978884
/ag/ tropical paradise: >>16979120
/nasfaqg/: >>16977754 >>16977849 >>17027803
/ag/ lore: >>16982972
/2434/ lore: >>16983324
/#/ lore: >>17005984
niji lore: >>17010485
/∞/ lore: >>17020534 >>17020794 >>17030248 >>17030835 >>17031541 >>17027803
haachama lore: >>17023473
Luna/matsuri lore: >>17024619

FLAG POSTS:
Anya-petra flag: >>16984731
Shishilamy flag: >>16985187
/who/ flag: >>16988212
haachama flag: >>17025642

>>17037618
nice, it looks a lot better than my initial list

>>17036855
What if...?

>>17037771
You may be onto something. Shrink it a bit so it looks roughly proportional with the other continents

>>17037511
>>17037771
>>17037832
something like this?

>>17037832
How about now?

>>17037922
I love you
Anons, we've found it!

>>17037922
I'm with this. I like this

>>17037922
I meant shrink the main continent in >>17037771 Just a tad though, until it's area looks roughly proportional to the other continent's areas

>>17037922
how would this look if the southern continent is flipped upwards? The islands seem difficult to reach

>>17038187
I agree with this, I was hoping to claim one as /ag/. They'd be in a prime location if only they were on the other side of the mainland

>>17037922
Mirror the southern continent and adjacent islands horizontally

I just realized a thing, if chuubas are gods, what's the role of aspiring chuubas? Are they saints? Angels? Lesser gods? Is /asp/'s job to help regular anons accend into godhood?

>>17036859
Reminder that /ybc/ is the place where this happens for real

Where is this going? In a Wiki somewhere? What are you guys going to do with the flags?

>>17037245
>/#/ lore: >>17005984
/#/ reads more like a very rich/powerful City-State than a theocracy:
>conveniently located
Literally neutral ground where everyone comes and goes at will. Nobody is outright denied entry as long as they go there for the right reasons.
>high levels of transactions being made
It doesn't matter if the numbers are real or "fake", people will deal with them due to their inherent worth. Some people are more studious and scholarly about them and others will just look at them and take them at face value. The naive ones will fall for blatant scammers.
>a source of information
Just as with numbers, information is as valuable a resource, and they have great access to it due to their large "information network". Better hope that whatever info you try to serve them is authentic, or else...
>sportsman's paradise
There's numbers and then there's numbers. The people make a spectacle of numbers and how efficient and powerful they are and often will serve as a host for international competition. Those who make it and make it really big will often come to numbers and often will be the talk of the town.
>prone to tribalism
Due to their neutral/welcoming stance on "outsiders", the City-State often finds itself as a center for disputes among people that come from different territories. It's not just along imperial lines either, often the various territories within the empires will fight among each other.
>gypsies not welcome
They are an eyesore and are worth less than actual thieves and scammers and beggars. They bring disease, and lower the quality of life. They should be put to death or exiled back from whence they came.

>>17039219
this is an exercise in creative writing

>>17039032
I just wish Minecraft had proper oceans and continents rather than large lakes pretending to be oceans.

>>17039032
What is this, a map for ants?
I know you fuckers have a full-resolution version of the map.

>>17039219
If it gets big enough, maybe some other anon could collate it all into a wiki. Dunno, could be fun i guess

GENTLEMEN! BEHOLD!

>>17039724

>>17039724
flip the goddamn south-western continent so that the small islands are on the north side

>>17039724
very nice but i concur with this >>17040018

>>17040018
>>17040559
Now?

>>17039724
you flipped it vertically, not horizontally

>>17040598
das it mane

I've been combing the previous thread for lore, but i've only found scraps and i'm not sure what to do with them

Micomet/Pekomiko lore: >>16981948
/vtsings/ lore: >>16982525
/.../ lore: >>16982630
/voms/ lore: >>16982692
/become/ lore: >>16983583
/ringo/ lore: >>16983646
/vshojo lore: >>16984833
/towa/ lore: >>16984836

>>17040598
If people seem to like this, I'll make the climate approximation for it

>>17037618
>>17037245
I will reinstate the Shishi/Lamy split.

>>17039219
I dont know, that remains to be seen. /∞/ and /nasfaqg/ have their own archives for this sort of stuff already so why not /vtwbg/?

>>17040598

>>17040598
very naisu
if we have the map. data from the upper right map you can load it without the stripes, but that is only a minor nitpick,

>>17042649
Either that or extend them across the whole map. If I recall, each one of those squares was equal to 300KM^2

Expanding my idea from the last thread on the /hfz/ pantheon.
I imagined it to be a polytheistic religion where each member can worship their oshi’s individually, however, /hfz/ views the holos in a different way then they are seen throughout the Hololive empire. Instead the myths surrounding each vtuber are more warlike and violent at the least, and completely new legends and stories being made about them at most. In addition, HFZ OP is seen as the head of the pantheon by the citizens of /hfz/, while the rest of the hololive empire see him as a prophet at most, and some even decry him as a blasphemous schizo.
There are even some gods in the holofightz pantheon that are not found anywhere else, such as stack, who's worshipers cry their love for constantly throughout the streets, or Magnet Stairs, who is worshiped if you want to attract someone or something towards you, and many more.

>>17041130
Hear ye, hear ye, I bring news of the /gorls/ monarchy at delegate's behest: Let it be known that the four gracious kings that rule this small nation extend their warmest regards to the cartographers that have undertaken the grueling task of mapping the world and invite them to ongoing festivities, which include:
A banquet, held by the illustrious Nina Saotome, heiress of western indies and as he gods would have it, their favored daughter. Every month or so noble and commoner alike gather at the amphitheater built by Lady Saotome's personal attendants and partake in the celebrations, with the Lady herself performing a riveting singing show that is talked about in the neighboring nations for weeks.
Self-defense lessons from Kitanya and Nekoreen, the two have had a long history of defending themselves against the melanated hordes that assault their southern estates and have brought their strategic wisdom into the defense of the capital city, a moat filled with crocodiles guards the outer walls, as the black masses do not know how to swim the crocodiles make easy work of them.
Finally, Koopa Fortuna is the armorer and general of the nation's army, her encyclopedic knowledge of weaponry, ranged and melee, trumps the other kings' to the point that she has forgotten more than they know. Hunting parties and maintenance of weapons are a common occurrence in the old town area, where the king discusses her most recent battle wounds and more often than not slips into tangents that no one knows how to respond.
Consider our offer, we will be waiting

>>17036859
VShojo?

>>17040598
I'm making a HoI4 map out of this. Hope you don't mind.

>>17043480
Forgot pic

>>17043122
forgot to tag >>17041130

Okay so it looks like picrel is the final(?) map iteration. Now we have to agree on general region placement, and THEN we can finally get to placing boards down.

>>17043480
Go for it, just make sure you post results

These maps are trash. Nothing but islands? Is this fucking GTA? Do you understand how real world works?

>>17044199
would the vshojo city states be somewhere in western indies/small companies?

>>17044254
continents=/=islands

>>17044254
>nothing but islands
anon...ever heard of continents?

>>17043480
I hope you have the time and motivation to actually finish it, anon. Those two factors were why I abandoned a Hologlobe map for HOI4

>>17044254
If you think about it, continents are just big islands.

>>17044199
I don't like this map. There's no flexibility for climates within each company/region.
And separating each company into their own continent is boring.

>>17044445
I kinda agree, they should be closer so they can interact more, as opposed to being an ocean away from nearly all others

>>17044199
Land input is done, I'm just gonna wait for further developments before I start working on province size input, state output, river map etc. etc. Keep up the good work lads.
>>17044327
As long as materials keep on flowing here motivation wouldn't be a problem. There's a huge potential here for lulz.
>>17044445
>And separating each company into their own continent is boring.
Yeah I agree.

>>17044632
>>17044593
>>17044445
Maybe we need a sort of continent/land in the middle of every continent for which every board/empire is competing? There could be a lot of interactions there
Just throwing out an idea

strategic Resources:


Hopium, gas, smp: 18°C
Once a rare resource, now a standard commodity like sugar or spices like curry/pepper
Aphrodisiac in high concentrations, it soothes the brain and has a refreshing and emotionally stabilizing effect at reasonable exposition.
It is used recreationally to refresh and motivate.

Copium, Gas smp: -2°C
Chemically related to Hopium, this strong hallucinogen is much more potent by several orders of magnitude.
It's strong effect can be used by some rulers to numb the senses to keep citizens happy and calm

originating from the deep energy lines spanning the globe, both can be either extracted as a gas at natural hotsprings/wells ,drilled for, or in colder regions, bottled up as a viscous liquid

Alternatively, existing continents could be mashed together to have some land connections and be in close proximity to one another.
Think Europe/Asia/Africa.

>>17044760
It really should be schizolands. It's not just bait posts but random one off shit like furizer etc. The non generals "fill the gaps" so to speak.

>Why does the forest resound with the echoes of a thousand souls whispering ‘/UUU/’
>What happens to the weary and wayward travelers that venture into the depths of the swamp?
>Who among all the neighboring villagers does not shudder at the mere mention of the dreaded woods?
>Where are the once lively and fruitful settlers who cultivated the forest’s land?
>Why do the neighboring villagers regularly make visits to the shrines lining the outskirts of the forest?
>My poor poor schizo, take your meds and sit down a spell…

>Many ages ago, when the wilds of EN were still being colonized by the HLE. There was a forest
>Its hospitable climate and warm weather produced a fruitful harvest for the uncivilized tribes of the area
>Then the HLE arrived in force. With axe and till in hand, they set out to claim this land for themselves.
>The MYTHological deities had long prophesied the existence of Gods other than themselves
>With a decree of zeal many set out to become the priests of a new generation
>The gods revealed themselves to the eager settlers, and the partitions were made
>The forest’s settlers found themselves in good hands as her motherly presence seemed to ease their woes with calming winds blown directly into their ears
>Game(s) w(ere)as plentiful and the harvest was as diverse as the creatures the new goddess made in spore
>but the mother wanted more, and was lonely in her creation
>she noticed that the settlers were without companionship, and what mother does not care for her children?
>she began courting the new artemis, a master of civilization
>this was not to be, as the cruel hand of time would steal her away.
>a labor dispute between the hunters of the forest and the construction workers of /infinity/ broke out
>Fauna pleaded with Kronii for the rights of her previous laborers, but to no avail. In the midst of the chaos, the forest’s goddess lost favor with Mumei and their bond was sundered
>But she remembered that time...
>She saw that the flesh of man was weak, prone to greed,lust, and the frail mortality of humanity
>She gave the humans of the Forest a choice, either embrace inner peace with nature. Or succumb to civilization’s false promises of cheap pleasure in the megacities.
>Those of weaker wills left the forest. However those that remained were changed by the goddess. They became quiet, reclusive, and content with their goddess.
>She rejected humanity, but others were watching just as well
>The Rrat’s followers and their compatriots of the Nephamily will occasionally make small offerings at the shrines lining the forest
>Very rarely, on a humid summer’s night, if you venture past the shrine barrier into the center of the forest, then you can hear the two gods conspiring about the mysterious house at the edge of the swamp
>an owl screeches and your hair stands on end
>you can make out a face carved into one of the trees
>you go closer, and the mouth twitches
>you turn to run, but the roots have grabbed your leg
>you look up “UUUUU- welcome to the family Anon! What kind of compost do you want to be?”

Basically I imagine us as a bunch of treants that reject the horniness of other threads and seek inner peace through worshiping fauna only. And since fauna’s a yandere she makes trespassers into compost

>>17044445
>no flexibility for climates
You'll have to wait for >>17041320 to do a climate analysis, unless you are that Anon and have eye-balled what the climate would supposedly look like, in which case, I'm sure some kind Anon would comb through the previous thread and provide you with all the map regions that were generated by other anons, and the generator itself.

>Separating each company into their own continent is boring
Maybe you're right, but I'm not sure how else to go about it. The untouched map is here >>17040598

>>17044760
Something like >>17038047 ?

>>17038047
Can you mirror the souther continent and adjacent islands horizontally again, that seemed to work in the last map

>>17045060
Something like that yeah
Imagine this scenario: A new continent has risen out of the deep ocean and every nation has smelled the smell of profit, honor and glory.
They are all scrambling to colonize as much land as possible while forging alliances on the one hand and backstabbing on the other.
I imagines something like this.
I mean we it would be nice to have to have some kind of 'goal' to work towards to after writing up all that lore

>FAITH OF HAATONS
>although nearly every Haaton is devoted to Godchama the faith in and of itself has split apart into different branches
>Different branches/families within the Chama faith
>- Doom branch - have lost hope but cling to faith as a last ditch effort -- the membership in this faction fluctuates greatly with different actions Haachama takes
>- Love branch - lead by reminderanon-chama -- are in love with Haachama and would do anything for her, proclaiming "Reminder that I love Haachama today too!" every day for as long as they live
>- Sex branch - lead by mpreminderanon-chama -- would like to mating press(or do other sexual practices with) Haachama, proclaiming "Reminder that I want to mating press Haachama today too!" every day for as long as they live
>An approppriate response to the exclamations of the Love and Sex branches would be "based reminderanon"
>The heads of the Love and the Sex branch are twin Haatons though they went different ways after realizing that they both had different ways of showing their devotion to Haachama. Apart from that they are on good terms
>- Haato branch- a small group of Haatons that prays for the return of Akai Haato. Although their numbers continue to drop as more and more time passes there seems to be a hardened core of believers in this branch of the faith

>>17037618
>/ybc/
>Large section of land far down south, the antartica of /vt/
>So far away, it lived mostly on legends about a parallel world called /vm/, until its inhabitants showed up with a team to play soccer dueing the World Cup
>Its inhabitants are migrants from all nations, who decided to live together in harmony in an idilic, no tribalfagging world
>They managed this by heavily segregating its land in factions, as counterintuitive as that sounds
>Avid builder and architects, known for buuilding most of the massive monuments linked to certain deities.
>Blessed by their oshies several times, some of these godesses even descend to visit the land themselves
>Their currency is diamonds, which they mine and use to buy the materials for their incredible architecture
>Massive gambling culture
>/hfz/ broadcasts are a national holiday
>Really, really good at soccer, winners of the first ever World Cup held.
>Society is very anarchocapitalist in nature, rewarding those who work the hardest and smartest

>>17045358
Okay, yeah! Agreed. We're getting there, slowly but surely. We may need some small island chains to the top-centre, and bottom-left and bottom-right (think Polynesia) to fill out the space a bit. It's mean there's more room for smaller unaffiliated threads too

>>17045462
The general is of the haato branch, and fervently so. Despite his lament of the queens sermons recently, he faithfully attends them and is quick to point out the errors of the other pigs should they try and alter her words.

>>17039032
Is there candy kingdom? I'll help build it

>>17040598
Assuming earth like.
There are some pretty weird areas in this map.

For the image with this post:
Light blue areas affected by cold currents
light red areas affected by warm currents
orange stripes are low rain areas
blue-green stripes are high rain areas (not necessarily rainforest).
Purple line is equator.

Climate guess/approximation:
https://files.catbox.moe/dffm0u.png

For the climate approximation:
Areas between 2 red lines are hot climate
Areas between a red and a blue line are temperate climate
Areas north of the northern blue line and south of the southern blue line are cold climate

>>17045001
>>17044445 eyeballed it pretty well. With what you have here >>17044199, only hololive would have a good variety of climates. The problem is not with the map, its with how the divisions are made.

>>17044760
>>17045358
Please no I just spent the last 2 hours making this analysis

>>17044886
>"The H/Copium melange... He who controls the H/Copium controls the VTWorld..."
We may need to come up with a relevent world name too lol

>>17045001
>>17045854
>>17044199
For a slightly better division, assuming >we agree to go with each company being given their own region, I personally propose this small change.

>>17045854
Otsukaresama, Climetographer-kun!
Don't worry, you may not have to worry about the map changing, Only one anon has raised concerns so far. If so however, ganbatte ne!

>>17046176
These are much better divisions

>>17046176
Nice, now start dividing the map into countries

>>17039549
>>17045734
https://files.catbox.moe/vnpnn4.png

>>17045854
>Good zone for trade
/nasfaqg/, here >we come!

>>17046790
The Switzerland of /vt/

>>17045168
Pasted fixed island from other map and cleaned oceans a bit.

>>17046790
A little merchant republic here would probably be as optimal as it gets

>>17046176
Okay, so I have to sleep. Assuming there are no serious objections or other map proposals let's press ahead with this one. If there are any serious objections at this point, you'll have to provide an entire alternate map with climate analysis yourself. Details on how to do a climate analysis are in picrel, and the map generator is here: https://azgaar.github.io/Fantasy-Map-Generator/hvw2t

>>17047265
https://azgaar.github.io/Fantasy-Map-Generator/
link was borked

>>17047265
That guide gives you a good idea on how to deal with individual islands and with just winds. For ocean currents and how they affect temperature and rainfall you'll need to go deeper. Then there is the drawing of the ocean currents themselves which, while simple, can be tricky on occasion.

>THE WORDS OF HAACHAMA
>Despite their best efforts a lot of Haatons have yet to reach a high enough proficiency in the native tongue of their monarch, Japanese
>the only way to comprehend the divine words are through translation
>the problem: translator-chamas Reiza-chama and Shrek-chama are not always translating everything and often times also not entirely correct
>they are not to blame as it is a quite demanding task to put her holy sermons into words of another language entirely
>still, the general of the Haaton Army (HA) antichama has a close eye on them. Should they purposely twist her words he will smite them down with heavenly might
>another way antichama tries to prevent that event to happen is by cracking down on the EOP Haatons and forcing them to learn Japanese as soon as possible
>in the near future there will be no Haaton that needs any form of help in comprehending the words of the Chama

Would like to have picrel as Haachama World. It fits pretty well with the lore I've written/is currently in my head
well, see you tomorrow anon, gn

>>17047628
If you have any anon-proof guides on how to do so, please post them; i'd like to spare you your time and health!

>>17047208
Considering /nasfaq/ only deals with holos (and their mamas, but mainly holos) I think a place like picrel would be much more suitable, being a trading hub in the centre of the Empire.Some possibly important trade routes shown in blue.

>>17049455
Since it's mostly in-continent sea, galleys would be king there, and the waters would be great to trade through. That being said, it'd also have the opportunity to trade with Nijisanji (via the Pomuposter exchange) for distant travels and luxury products.

>>17045854
bonus note:

>>17051050
The right is far more plausible, the left is a bit of a stretch but still possible

/FEET/
>quiet, peaceful, isolationist
>will take visitors from any thread, so long as they conform to the thread's culture posting feet
>minor ideological differences are tolerated, such as Roboco's robot feet or sandal posting, in the name of peace
>trolls/invaders are mostly ignored or presented with footpics
>despite appearing an odd place to live, /FEET/ has been known to convert several non believers into footfags

Dividing continents by corpo is not good idea because it limits creativity and no inter-general connections
Have indies/fetishes/other gens spread out all over mimicking smaller kingdoms/duchies/city states
While big corpos with many generals fan out from their home continent into the neighbouring one.
Also, exclaves and enclaves can be used for explaining more schizo situations

>>17046678
>"Why is there a small Hitler on that ma-"
>Area called Auschwitz besides him
Oh. I see.

>>17051825
However it also creates for a more plausible society, as each corpo would essentially represent a unique culture group / ethnicity on the map.

as long as nobody dropping new maps with these new ideas, the 4 continents stays

Okay, but what about technologies? I assume different generals have different weapons and living conditions available to them. The /nasfaqg/ lore makes it seem highly digital like a far flung sci fi, while /infinity/ appears to be based off Frostpunk with steam engines and industrial era weaponry. What about the others?

/HIRyS/ is pretty much just a small city state in the middle of the Hololive heartland.

>>17054725
most likely medieval, with sprinkles of primals

>>17051825
At the very least Hololive should still be their continent with the nearest landmass being nijisanji.

>the confederation of /ringo/
>a society of religious mages who worship ambrosia, the holy bodily excretions of their oshi.
>formed after they were shunned and deemed heretics by their previous societies, they quickly banded together in exile.
>government is a high council of mages, with the most powerful mage of each district being elected a seat.
>each high mage has multiple mages under them, chosen by them, and they are responsible for organizing a militia should war come.
>there are 3 main worshipped forms of ambrosia within ringo society, ringo, brap and choco
>while one could devote themselves to a single form of ambrosia, all 3 are commonly worshipped simultaneously
>the most important men of ambrosia worship are alchemists, attempting to closely recreate the ambrosia of their oshi, ambrosia made by skilled alchemists can be sold at /ringo/ markets for exorbitant prices.
>ambrosia magic can be harnessed through witnessing, feeling, hearing, tasting or smelling ambrosia, even if it's not "real", such as an artwork.
>every individual's excretions contain ambrosia magic, although the concentration of magic can greatly vary, and each individual is attuned to different types of magic, hence why alchemists and the alchemy market exists
>it is said that consuming your true oshi's ambrosia would overload you with so much magic that you would transcend human form and reach nirvana.
>choco worshippers perform brown magic, it is the rarest and darkest form of magic, associated mainly with destruction. choco mages are most concentrated on high, mountainous areas.
>brap worshippers perform green magic, associated mainly with divination. most concentrated on flatland
>ringo worshippers perform yellow magic, associated mainly with healing. most concentrated by the ocean. those entering the faith are baptized in a fountain of ringo.
>most highly revered artist in the nation is studioanon, producing a large assortment of holy works of art, displayed inside temples across the nation.
>/ringo/ coins are minted out of choco, melted down and then hardened into coins bearing the image of suisei and the ringo box
i'm not sure if real fantasy type magic is allowed, but i wrote this with the idea of it being kind of a folk magic/religion so it can go either way. feel free to add anything.

>>17054725
I was thinking that everyone would be roughly late medieval/renaissance tech
Exception being primals and perhaps steampunk
For balance and plausibility purposes I think the technological level between all generals should be roughly equal. Steam engine's would be the most advanced technology available.

>>17054725
I worded mine vaguely enough that it could just barely make sense given medieval global standards, but I envisioned semi-modern tech when writing it. I'm not expecting the internet or anything, but I was hoping international travel and communication was possible without months of wait times

Anons should make RimWorld ideologies of their threads

>>17054725
I got the sense that each general has their own particular traits that keep them from being completely dominated and everyone as a whole is around medieval in terms of tech with some higher tech weaponry sprinkled about. RBC and Kroni probably have steam punk elements but the cultural exchange might be blocked out somehow.

>>17056919
>cultural exchange might be blocked out somehow.
I think it'd be funny if the only thing stopping mass cultural exchange and sharing of technology was pure tribalism. You might have for example a few clockbuds who bring knowledge of steam engines from Infinity to Atlantis, but most chumbuds would bawk at the suggestion of being like those disgusting Kronies. And this goes for every general

>>17057268
This is actually a pretty good idea considering how Holofags still fight amongst each other while also hating Nijis. We've been imagining the Holo Empire as a stable entity but do you really believe that Pekoland isn't going to try and spread its territory while breaking several treaties in the process? These nations probably hate each other (maybe to a racial degree) and are only held together by strong foundation laid down by the likes of Sora and the mythical figure known only as Yagoo.

>>17058114
>We've been imagining the Holo Empire as a stable entity
I thought the idea was that the Holo Empire was like the HRE, a confusing mess of smaller powers that war against each other all the time?

>>17058328
Imma be honest with you.
I don't know jack shit about the HRE

>>17058114
This. Maybe there's some alliances between them - the nations of Myth probably have a stable relationship with each other, maybe a little shaky with the deadbeats - but for the most part they all see each other as competition. But they're more concerned with hating on Nijis and 2views than each other. Do Nijis have something similar?

>>17058382
this map should get the idea of how messy it was across.

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>>17058762
lmao

>>17058416
Niji's are so spread out and wide spread that I imagine it'd be kind of the opposite for them, many probably don't care about warring against the Holos and aren't willing to put the resources forth in a crusade against their rival corporation. Maybe there are a few feuds between nations here and there but nothing on the level of Hololive.
Vshojo is probably the most cooperative amongst each other ironically.

>>17059169
At /infinity/ we do get a rather persistent Nijishill every few threads or so. Makes sense lorewise since the landmass of Infinity is just a boat ride away from Haha

>>17059609
everything i hear about /infinity/ just makes it out to be a shitshow of schizos

>>17059926
At least they're just horny schizos. Better than the other kinds.

>>17059926
thats because it is

>>17059926
>driven mad by knowledge
checks out

Still needs a lot of polishing but at least I figured out how to make a map

>>17059926
It is
t. Kronie
I unironically love the split. It's so chaotic and weird that antis of any girls can't take root.

>>17036859
>be me
>a monk living in the great fortified monastery of /rrat/
>we're high up in the mountains so we're separated from most of the world
>it's pretty chill
>tryitsometime.holo
>our order maintains the tunnel and road networks through the mountain passes
>so from time to time we get travelers from other places stopping by to rest and chat
>mostly from the Council kingdoms and hIRyStocracy
>they're pretty chill too
>really the only issue comes with the topic of /ZomG/
>their ruler slighted our order a long time ago and we brrats have a good memory
>some monks believe that "unity" applies to everyone so they should be forgiven
>while others think "unity" is only for the Council, so they shouldn't be forgiven
>the teachings are vague on the matter so we squabble from time to time
>you see, our patroness and deity is the chaos rat herself
>we do our best to live by her chaotic teachings
>such as taking vows of silence
>daily long meditations for hours
>focusing on self improvement of things outside the /vt/ plane of existence
>encouraging unity among the realm
>oh, and worship of the images of the chaos rat
>like worship of the images
>you should see our halls, their is so much art of her chaos-ness
>monasticism.chaos
>I hear a commotion in the gardens
>walk down the hall to see what's up
>two fellow monks are engaging in debate on the final letter
>happens all the time
>it's pretty silent up here so debates tend to echo all over attracting more monks and people
>oh let me explain the final letter
>her chaos-ness, in all her wisdom had a golden plaque made
>on it is supposed to be "the supreme truth"
>the words say "Baelz Rex Unitis H..."
>some monks say the H stands for Humanity, others say Hope
>both don't make sense
>doesn't stop people from arguing over it
>a huge crowd has gathered watching the spectacle
>there's nothing else to do so we just watch
>I turn to look at the monk next to me to strike a conversation
>it's the ancient one
>short of it is that he's some old man from the far east
>apparently he has stayed here since the start of our order
>he looks at me and smiles
>"if you sum up all of their arguments, do you think the results would be Sub-Zero?"
>he turns and walks away
>I was enlightened

>>17063145
wat?

>>17063145
damnit quan-chi!

>>17063145
That punchline was quite the fatality

>>17064545
oh fucks sake Quan Chi, not here too

Bump

I'm trying to brainstorm the cultural significance of /ag/ but I keep drawinfg blanks outside of being an illuminati type organization dedicated to making all chubbas plus sized through tzeentchian levels of trickery and set up but we're already that unironically...

>>17067192
these fucking mori threads have turned the board into a race track.

>>17067294
>this is my last yab

>>17067294
Jannies are asleep it seems

Try not to make Hololive/Niji too fuckhuge
The HRE wasnt europe sized but had a lot of power

>>17059609
>At /infinity/ we do get a rather persistent Nijishill every few threads or so
Taking this into consideration I'm not seeing any lore of /morig/ but we get occasional shilling for random chubbas. Some are western, some are japanese. Sometimes its based on a one time interaction with Mori, sometimes the chubba is just a fan of Mori. So if it was possible to have /morig/ in a location that would allow easy travel to the other continents that would be nice. Since people bring up ironmouse, some nijis and a handful of indies like I mentioned

>>17042377
in a perfect world...

>>17046176
The niji area is way too big considering their board presence, there is a reason I only gave them half the continent in the original draft, they only have nine generals compared to the holo's 50 ish. And also judging by how the nasfaq guys are already claiming entire islands I doubt there'd be enough space to fit the holo generals in that continent.

also this region should definjitely be some kind of neutral zone where stuff like numbers, /fps/, vsinger, asmr and other generals that aren't restricted by company hang out.

>>17071857
It looks like bootleg Hokkaido
And the fact mapanon constructed it out of pre-existing pieces is impressive

Mapfag behind >>17040598 here
I just woke up and realised what >>17040932 and >>17040018 meant so I will make a little edit.
Also for climateanon >>17045854
I love your work but forgice me, I might move the western continent just a little bit to allow ocean currents into the 'bootleg Atlantic'

>>17055183
I like it. Nice flag.
There's not too much strife in the /ringo/ lands. Everyone gets along, for the most part, and studies their magic. There is, however, a sect of yellow mages who do not like sharing their lands with the other mages, declaring their magic to be the only pure one. However, other mages of any of the three colors find that exposure to the other magics make them more in tune with them.
The occasional hoshiyomi wanders in out of confusion and is terrified by what they consider blasphemy. However, the mages do not fear outsiders, for they have their magic to protect them.
Finally, one more note: There are archivists who are considered very important to the society of /ringo/. They collect all the material throughout the threads and compile them in megas and rentries, be they clips of vtubers in relevant situations, artworks found on pixiv and fanbox, or stories and greentexts.

>>17071857
>judging by how the nasfaq guys are already claiming entire islands
Oi, the island claimed in blue here >>17049455, is not that big, is lore appropriate and leaves plenty of space for other generals. Besides, /nasfaqg/ is one of the biggest generals around here.

>>17072680
numbers is bigger, and both nijiEN and hlgg far more so, so if we are scaling size by activity both of them will take a small continent by themselves.

>>17072795
I feel like /#/ should be a mercantile sprawl
Like Carthage and Genoa

>>17073071
True. /#/ is semi-meta so their influence should be on every continent. Observing the growth of every civilization

>>17073071
/#/ is more like a demon lair that's only bearable when the demons are out shitting up the rest of the board. It's dead center in the bait & troll zone/region.

Where does /asmr/ fit into this? I don't know if it should be placed near Hololive, the indie regions, or the fetish continent.

>>17074079
Neutral threads? So it can be anywhere

>>17071857
/NijiEN/ should take up the biggest amount of land. It has JP posters who use it as a liveposting thread as well.
/2434/ is more like a citystate or something, it's also where history/recordkeeping is (mega . nz files)
/nijimale/ is closer to /2434/ and /luxiem/ (tiny), with some small territory in /stars/
/haha/ and /rose/ are right next to each other, being the fastest splits.
/lazulight/ is more isolated from /nijiEN/ and /yeah/ is basically a copy of /lazulight/
Anya Petra thread is another spot of linking Nijisanji territory to Hololive territory
Nijisanji ID thread and KR thread are also closer or probably inside of /nijiEN/ territory, in fact Nijisanji KR thread only existed because of shitposters in /nijiEN/ booting off Hada and Hari posters when only Lazulight existed. It now has to host discussion of Korean indies to keep it afloat, the general having fewer anons than ID.
/VSPO/ shares territory with Hololive and Nijisanji, Nijisanji being more closely tied.

>>17067229
>>/jp/?offset=3048&ghost=yes&task=search&search_text=fat%20cat
Looking through the archives of yee old /jay & pee/,
It appears the creature known as "Okayu" (felis fattus) was pivotal in the rise of architects in the modern landscape of /vt/.

Note how ancient anons would typically use the term "fat cat tats" when describing other attractive catgirls.
But for Okayu, they simply call her "fat cat". Implying some level of endearment toward her overall fatness, and not just her tats.

>>17074719
Now that we got that out of the way, here's the history channel version

>An ancient alien being is in search of potentially intelligent life.
>His mission is spread his wisdom to as many species as possible, so that they may build wonderous utopias based on his idealogies.
>For that reason and many more, he is called "The Architect".
>And on the day he descended upon the primordial land of "virtual youtubers", he knew that he had found adequate followers when he saw a bunch of cavemen going "oooga booba" over statues of an obese cat woman.

/ag/ enjoying their utopia until the /meat/ vikings arrive

My opinion, do not make the continents into categories ie indieland, corpoland, fetishland, other threads
It will create power imbalance
One superpower per continent, indies and small corpo generals, other threads like drama, fetishes, meta stuffs are independent sprawls all over the map

/hlgg/ is the entire reason this board even exists, so don't forget that

Since the nations battle it out with eachother wouldn't it be neat to design some soldiers and their equipment?
don't we already have some designs from the drawthreads/drawfags like takobro?

>>17072260
I fulfilled my promise
>>17045854
I hope this solves the questionable currents and adds more unique climate
>>17040932
>>17040018
>>17038187
>>17038254
Here's your real estate

>>17078649
based

>>17078649
Thanks mapanon this looks great

>>17049455
The black or blue circle should /∞/ based on how much influence they have now for their size.
Actually /∞/ should be the island in the blue circle.

Coming here from Noel's thread and kind of confused as to how this all works, but I think we could be like a germanic vassal state of the Hololive empire or a han of the Hololive shogunate, depening on which is more fitting.

>>17078649
We'll have more trading gyres

>>17036859
Where you guys making the map?

>>17078649
I just realize that THIS is the only passage between the East and West
The SEA/Suez of /vt/Land
Whoever controls this is the richest motherfucker ever

>>17079592
/nasfaqg/, here >we come!

>>17077529
>"Ah, yes. The so-called 'forgotten history' of the once great /hlgg/ empire that conquered all uncontested... only to crumble under the weight of its own hubris. Who would have thought back then that what once was such such a mighty empire would become an ever-decadent shadow if its former self?" >"That's what they get for having such blind faith in their 'Great Creator and His Maiden Army'-that somehow also has men among them-, stamping out all manner of dissidence and enforcing their morally questionable 'Unity'. Oh, what it could have been if they had chosen to see the ancestral dogma."
>"It is not as if their ancestral Kingdom of /hlg/ was that much better. They were even more prone to fanatical... outbursts."
> - A Conversation of Numerologist Scholars

>>17078649
that doesnt look too bad, I'll review it and see what I think would change.
t.climateautist

>>17079145
/infinity/ could be somewhere in the far south if they want a sort of frostpunk-like country for themselves

>>17080646
The history goes as follows
>/jp/-Antediluvian era
>Heavenly Kings Era
The time of primordial myth. When the Heavenly King deities ruled over the world.
Kizuna, Mirai, Siro, Kaguya are the Titanomachy.
Minor deities attempted to challenge them like Fuji Aoi but to no avail.
Then came the two minor deities, Sora and Mito
At first the primordial ones saw them as small challengers until
>The Spring
From everywhere new religions appeared. Nijisanji, 774, and Hololive
The golden age of /hlgg/
Over time the Titanomachy lost their powers
Kizuna lost control over her pantheon, the rest couldnt stop against the reformists
With cheaper methods of attaining godhood, almost everyone could be an indie deity
Over time the influence of the new deities grew as the monopoly of previous pantheons fell
It grew out of hand until
>/jp/ - /vt/ Transition
The Great Flood of the 4chan Vtuber community
Schisms between the JP and EN communities, the influence of the Heavenly Kings gone to the void
A new Era has arrived
>The Beginning of /vt/
We all know this part
/hlgg/ empire survived and so are the other big corpos like Niji but became /hlg/
Think HRE claiming itself to be Rome
But their influence is no longer JP centered, instead they have mutated into becoming regionalist.
SEA, KR, EN
Over time new smaller pantheons appear, and so are minor indie deities
MyHoloTV, Tsunderia, Vshojo
>The present
Too many deities, too many pantheons, too many organizations, too many conflicts

>>17078649
>>17081187
this also allows me to fix some of the mistakes i made in the first analysis

>>17081270
>Too many deities
There is only one solution
Unless there's a cult in /vt/-land dedicated to deicide, killing off chuubas to clean up the heavenly pantheon

>>17081443
>Unless there's a cult in /vt/-land dedicated to killing off chuubas

>>17081443
>Unless there's a cult in /vt/-land dedicated to deicide
Are you perhaps referring to the pagan cult of Watamagia?

>>17081488
>/meat/ was right all along

>>17081443
ONE MORE CHUUBA REJECTED!
Not Nocturne but fits Dagda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYj6O8IsYA

>>17081270
We still have some followers of the primordial titans around
But their threads always die
Maybe we could include them? A fallen 'empire' actually just a city state but they still keep the title out of tradition

Is /jp/ our Eden, our old home now denied to us? Some say our ancestors live on in that distant land, arguing about Marine

>>17081767
It's the pre-flood/Finno-Korean Hyperwar/Hyperborea-Agartha era of man

>>17076471
>One superpower per continent
>4 continents
>Hololive, Nijisanji
Who are the other 2? 774? Vshojo? ...upd8? That last one feels like a fallen empire

>>17081898
the other two are just a collection of small companies who can't hack in on the main continent.
And also fetishes.

>>17081898
Anon, think of it as Cold War style empires.\
>two superpowers that dominate the world discourse
>allied/vassal states that engage primarily with them
>proxies that are directly or indirectly controlled by said superpowers or allied/vassal states, where many of the conflicts tend to take place
>neutral states that often serve as diplomatic centers of mediation, trade, or cultural exchanges
>no-man's land where civilization is barely upheld and all manner of chaos and degeneracy abound

>>17082156
>Cold war style empires
God, I want some indie/very small company mercenaries in whatever the equivalent of the Congo is

>>17074079
Same with /vsingers/ being bards but gives a different kind of "service"

>>17045476
I never realized /ybc/ was just brazil

I was thinking of landmarks for each nation I suppose.

The /hfg/ coliseum should be one landmark by itself. Souvenir stores selling merch for their oshi and albums of Stack, a beloved singer, can be seen there. Shirts with sayings of "YOU WILL PLAY ARK" "YOU WILL PLAY APEX" and "INAWINSLOL" can be seen all around.

I don't visit /ringo/ but the lore here >>17055183 makes me want to think the Great /ringo/ library should be a landmark. With research notes on replicating their oshi's ambrosia and laboratories nearby to help conduct this research. Of course, base ingredients are commonly sold all around outside the library, like ringo juice, milk for Pekora ambrosia,and sake for Lamy ambrosia. Think of it as the pee version of the House of Wisdom

I don't know if /niji/ or /nasfaqg/ should have the Mahjong Headquarters. For one, while there's Nijis who play mahjong, there's /nasfaq/ residents who have played this game of suffering and joy. And in this place, the mahjong parlors bustle and cries everywhere can be heard. But this place has a secret that no one should speak of, though those who are old residents of /towa/ could be the key what could this be, as they know of someone who is friends with Towa who was associated with this place.

Was thinking the FPS General should have the Apex Island as their natural landmark, but I hate Apex and I don't want to write about that stupid game. Should be more of a natural wonder where guns and items are always scattered, with the rule to not bring any guns upon arrival.

>>17081732
>>17081767
>>17082156
/nijisanji/ and /hlg/ should share a landmass to visualise the Big Five Empire -> West/East Rome style Niji/Holo split
And at the centre of this shared land is the City State of the Heavenly Kingdom
Where the last remaining followers of the Big Five on /vt/ are

>>17082585
Forgot image

>>17082574
Considering /nasfaqg/ had a Mahjong tournament lasting 3 days with a shitton of reward money, I think they'd be the one associated with Mahjong at this point.

>>17082672
>with a shitton of reward money
Are we talking /nasfaq/ funbucks or actual dollaroos?

>>17082574
Infinity has it's Archive, which is poorly maintained as it is.

Speaking of, where does /wg/ stand? Is it a minor city state of writers and librarians?

>>17082616
>>17082585
What goes on in the Heavenly Empire city?

>>17036859
Where's the SEA vtuber representative? /svt/ exist sometimes you know.

>>17082762
Funbucks, around 185 million of them. Kind of wish it was actual money, but that's hard to organize and there wouldn't be that much interest in it.

>>17082156
If we're going with medieval era influence should this be HRE vs Caliphate?
Or early modern Ottoman vs Austria?

>>17082574
/nasfaqg/ would naturally have the Grand Exchange Hall where all the trading happens.
/nasfaqg/ also has a small library that is still under construction.

>>17082867
eastern indie island

/hfz/'s OP is in a continual battle with watamage. The entire coliseum is built upon cursed grounds that provide watamage with unrivaled power. Attempting to use watamage's image has cursed others with misfortune. a dark god to be feared and worshipped. As long as the coliseum is in use, it is continually decaying, and must be repaired between matches.
OP's counterpart, DarkOP, has also attempted to use the coliseum in the absence of OP, and has also felt watamage's wrath.

The first great tournament and the meta fights between OP and his disciples have cemented OP as the alpha and omega of KWABbing. He is the leader, and always shall be, but is fated to fail, in the end. an inevitability, like ragnarok.

So what's Watson's land like? Is it just a company-nation ran by Ame?
>Get up
>Work on the railroads
>Be given 3d content for propaganda
>Ame is cuter than usual
>Fight for rations
>Post Ame
>Work on new project bruteforce it #Ameway
>Terrarium parks for the people
>Ame is cuter than usual today
>See Officer K walking down the street
>He's just like me
>Work out at Buffson's Gold Gym
>Go home finally
>Ame is cuter than usual today

>>17081549
>>17081488
>/meat/'s religion is based around deicide of big corpo chuubas by eating them
>so that indies like their chuubas can take their place
Deepest lore

>>17083071
Literally a country of roided, 6-foot-tall dwarves who pretend to be fancy, civilized folk but can't hide their barbaric reality even with their pseudo faith of time.

>>17083165
So the obligatory dwarf kingdom in the Allied Empire

>>17082984
>He is the leader, and always shall be, but is fated to fail, in the end. an inevitability, like ragnarok.
>The final score was an own goal

>>17081898
VShojo is the biggest company in the Twitch VTubing scene, so /wvt/ and many smol corpos in Twitch should be in it's sphere of influence.

>>17083085
Some addition to our lore
When we go on raids, we sail against the winds. Polynesian style.
So that after we got our loot, we sail with the wind back home. A quick getaway and defensive strategy.
That way even the janny corvettes cant get to us back on our fortress islands

Hope there would be no more changes to the map so I can actually start working on the HoI4 mod

>>17083766
Cool, when are you adding content?

>>17083766
Wouldnt this better fit EU4?
It has culture, religion, politics, trade
HOI is just click focus and larp

>>17083851
>>17083766
Nah I think Vicky 2 is better and it's easier to mod.

>>17082984
>/hfz/ is norse

>>17083851
Sorry I don't really play EU4
>>17083938
I've been thinking about it actually and I agree. It'd be fun to colonize smaller/weaker threads as /hlgg/ or /niji/ for example. Though I haven't modded Vicky 2 before so I'll have to watch more tutorial vids then I'll let you guys know if it's going to be HoI or Vicky but yeah I'm leaning more towards the latter.

>>17083938
It depends on whether we want /vt/ land to be low fantasy with magic and modern tech or pure myth with medival/classical tech

>>17084126
I prefer former
The chuubas are deities and some level of modern tech exist
But the existence of magic and myths will open up some interesting possibilities

>>17083593
Fucking vshojofag, the only contribution of your nation is the birth of your harlot queen. Your place should be the dead sea where the equivalent of sodom once existed.

>>17084126
modern fantasy with lots of classical stylings.

>>17084346
>Blinding yourself to the truth
really now come on man, don't ruin this thread with muh whores.

>>17083601
We claim the old island and the new island, and a gulf
We will raid these areas

>>17084346
Do we have any salt lakes?

>>17084706
>claiming land claimed by /nasfaqg/
Is there some sort of conflict, unless /nasfaqg/ wants to move more inwards the Holo continent like anon here >>17079592 suggested?

>>17078649
I hope this is the final final because I'm going all in on this one

>>17085672
Nasfaqg wants the island in the middle of those sea lanes
It's pure Venetian kino

>>17085794
leaking this wind and current analysis for the area since you likely are interested in wind direction and nearby currents.

I havent yet done a weather event analysis or a climate analysis but the area does look promising for a merchant republic especially the island in the middle

>>17086194
Oh I forgot
The prevailing wind changes direction to blow northwest a bit north of the point where the red ocean current arrow ends.

>>17086194
To be fair, the whole area looks more or less like an inland sea, so galleys would be used there to travel in any direction. That island looks perfect for /nasfaqg/.

bump

>>17079212
you'd pretty much be a city of the hololive empire, this is more of a writefag exercise for you guys. Check the old map if you want to get an idea of how this works.

>>17078649
Since this is taking a while, I'll be posting the analysis in multiple parts as I get each of them ready.

This map only applies to a planet very similar to earth in rotation speed, direction, and size.

First, Wind and ocean gyres.
I added arrow within the big arrows to show the polar easterlies, westerlies, and trade winds I had taken this into account in the previous analysis' but I didnt show it in the images.
I've once again left out neutral ocean currents. I can add them in for a full ocean current map if anyone wants one but where the neutral currents lay should be relatively simple to deduce.
Another addition is the intertropical convergence zone (equator, red), subtropical ridges (north and south of the equator, blue), and polar fronts (far north and south, red).

ITCZ and the polar fronts create a belt of low air pressure that goes around the entire globe. Conversely, the subtropical ridges create belts of high air pressure. Furthermore, the belts each divide the planet into rough climate zones. Areas between the ITCZ and subtropical ridges are hot, areas between subtropical ridges and the polar front are temperate, and areas beyond the polar fronts are cold. This gives the general foundation for temperatures, but for a better climate approximation, the ocean currents have to be taken into account, which I will do in my 3rd post on this.

For seafaring, the ITCZ and the subtropical ridges create areas where the winds are unpredictable and often stagnant, meaning that ships relying on sails for locomotion may risk getting stuck in the zone for days or even weeks. Unprepared sailors would risk starvation, scurvy, or death.

I'm sure I'm forgetting about some points but if there are questions I can try to come up with an answer. Next post will be on weather phenomena and rainfall regions

>>17084105
>>17084126
>Imagine enslaving nijiniggers to overwork them in plantations, mines and factories for nothing.
vghhhhhh please please please do it in Vicky 2

>>17088752
>Capitalists keep building dakimakura factories.

I came here from /nene/, are you guys making a new map? I'll claim this small patch for taotao if that was the case.

>>17088859
>>17088752
Imagine if a Great War start over a dispute over Uoh Island of all places

>>17091208
yeah, we are still kinda hashing things out though. Feel free to join us in our writefag and lore activities

>>17091486
Nice, i'll post some lore stuff soon

An entire Vicky2 map overhaul would be difficult and needs top tier coding autism skills, skills that I don't have. No custom map tutorials doesn't help either. So I'll stick with HoI4 for now but if someone knows how to do it in Vicky2 or EU4 then feel free to do it. The more games the better.

>>17088663
Weather phenomena.

Orange and greenish-blue stripes are the usual areas of lower rainfall and above average rainfall respectively. There are areas where rainfall would depend on season and I've left some of those unmarked, sorry for inconsistency. The final climate approximation should make things a bit clearer.

New:
>Big red arrows.
Shows the most likely path of tropical cyclones aka, hurricanes, typhoons. Tropical cyclones would start forming at the base of the arrow, and make landfall towards the tip.
>Grey area.
Area that could plausibly have frequent tornadoes.
>Purple area.
Areas that may experience ENSO (El Niño–Southern Oscillation). Essentially, for a few months every one or two years one of the purple areas experiences heavy storms and flooding, while the other purple area experiences droughts and heatwaves. After the extreme weather dies down both of the areas get relatively normal weather followed then by the purple areas flipping; The one that initially experienced droughts is now experiencing storms and flooding, and vice versa. Then the cycle repeats.
>Green areas.
Zones that are likely subject to monsoon circulation, where one of either summer or winter is hot and VERY wet, and the other is a bit cooler (still warm) and very dry.
>Light blue zones next to coasts
Areas affected by cold ocean currents. Expect cooler temperatures and drier climate.
>Light red zones next to coasts
Areas affected by warm ocean currents. Expect warmer temperatures and wetter climate.

Cold coastal waters are likely to be very nutrition rich, meaning that the waters next to areas affected by cold currents would be the most optimal locations for fishing.
Coral reefs would most likely form in tropical waters where a warm ocean current flows.

Next post will be climate analysis, I might do a short tectonic analysis afterwards but I'm not sure about that one yet.

/ybc/ claims this island among the continents, which fits our hyper-pluriculturalism pretty well. Here's the political division inside this island

>>17092317
Fuck it, I'll do it myself.
Capitalism Ho!

/KFP/ here, I have been compiling some general info from my thread fore a lore dump later, in the meantime may I add to this >>17091208 idea by proposing kfp (kingdom?) and pic related
not even sure if we are already Picking territories/if I have drawn the borders too large, so please correct me if need be

>>17092967
I like this idea personally

>>17092589
>replace rebels with rats

>>17092432
Same Map of /ybc/, but now instead of naming the provinces, it is highlighting the actual locations of towns/villages/cities, plus the capital

I’d like to think of noels land as the Wisconsin of this world, where it’s a mainly dairy producing land with milk, cows and cheese as it’s main exports

>>17048333
made a map for this piece of land

BAMPU

>>17092432
i'm going to claim a stick of land by the ichimi pier in the name of /白銀ノエル/, just a bit north undernearth the haaton village

I cant tell how many times how much I love this general!
This is the first time I see /vt/ being productive

>>17098671
you should've been here when pixelplace general was a thing

Perhaps a bit presumptive, but I imagine with the semi-frequent collabs (that are apparently supposed to increase again soon) most of Council would be fairly approximate to one another.

Here's one 'artistic interpretation' as a suggestion, in the south western part of the HoloRegion. Colors are approximate ares of influence, with the white being non-council land. Could likely have made it more pretty/accurate if I spent more time on it (and money for the tools, but fuck that).

t./who/, so anyone else pitch in to tell me I'm full of shit if it's unfitting.

I think /hag/ and /uoh/ need to be in close proximity to each other to take into account lolibabas and that most "hags" are loli/shotacons

>welcome to /vt/

How many generals still havent send a representative yet?

>>17101228
/Tsoog/
The forbidden infrequent Carol general.

>>17101228
i vouch for /白銀ノエル/

>>17094084
>cunny dome
Im scared to ask what goes on in there

>>17036859
I'm glad these threads took off.

Yo where is everyone?
It's time to start claiming territories! Scramble for planet /vt/!

>>17078649
>>17088663
>>17092403
I might have been a bit over ambitious with this one

I noticed too late the mountain biome blends a bit into Cold Steppe. gomen.

To those willing to do some reading, I'm using Köppen climate classification as a general guide with some creative liberty and some handwaving. Here is a wiki article where you can read about each zone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ppen_climate_classification

For those unwilling, here's a list of examples of what each area could be like:
>Tropical Rainforest
Amazon
>Tropical Savannah
Ivory coast, a lot of africa and some areas of southern americas
>Hot Desert
Sahara
>Hot steppes
Northern australia, portions of mexico
>Tropical Monsoon
Philippines, western coast of india
>Mediterranean
Greek, Italy, Northern Africa, Spain, Southern France
>Humid Subtropical
China, South-eastern US.
>Humid Continental
Northern US, Central and Eastern Europe I used this colour a bit liberally
>Oceanic
Northern france, Ireland, the UK
>Cold Desert
Gobi Desert
>Cold Steppe
Mongolia, Kazakhstan
>Subarctic Continental
Alaska, Canada, Northern Europe, Siberia
>Polar Tundra
Greenland, Northest reaches of northern europe
>Polar Icecaps
Antarctica
>Mountain
Himalayas

Here is a link to the map with some of my comments https://de.catbox.moe/0bzqbf.png

Im probably not doing a tectonic analysis

>>17105079
I...
I kneel
Thanks so much for this

Is there any /Morig/ thats been set up? I tied to search previous threads but I didn't find anything

>>17105079
>driest desert on the planet
Ah we should send /vshojo+/ there

>>17104947
It is the middle of a work week

>>17073071
>>17073140
Whether or not Numbers is a meta-thread is largely inconsequential, since it normally discusses meta of the agencies as opposed to the board meta itself (and even that gets discussed sometimes). The way that you describe it, I am given the impression that /#/ is probably one of the most advanced civilizations in the world due to their access to everyone else's business.
>>17073341
You can say that of just about every thread since they all have local schizos. They just happen to be able to go Numbers to pick up ammo to shit up the board with and users are to blame for biting bait and letting them live rent free in their heads.

Hmm...

How many historical states have often played both sides by selling weapons/resources to both sides of a mutual conflict? I know for sure that WWII USA traded with the USSR and have Nazi presence on their own land...

>>17105773
Sweden in WWII and Cold War

>>17105079
I kneel,
as stupid as it looks being a chicken

LIVE

I would like to share with you what I know about /shishilamy/ Republic.

>Former sovereign states of /poi/ and /lamy/ formed union in attempt to improve their positions on /vt/. Now it is ruled by a senate of representatives of the former states.
>Despite differences in cultures, there is no overall dominance of one over other, rather they are mixed together. This is evident by similarly mixed worship of Shishiro Botan (goddess of war, wisdom and laughter) and Yukihana Lamy (goddess of alcohol, snow and nobility).
>There are exceptions to culture mixing, with domination of /poi/ and /lamy/ in military and alcohol productions respectively. The reason for this is enormous focus on this aspects before the merge.
>Military to this day remains one of the key elements of the new state. First thing people imagine when they think about army is professional soldiers, with SSRB shock troops leading the charge with famous "La-Lion" warcry.
>What people don't realise, is the amount of work army does beyond wars. Most of infrastructure were and still is being built by the army - roads, bridges, ports, canals, etc. - you name it.
>It is hard to overstate importance of alcohol production (and consumption) for Yukimin. You can understand that just by looking at their traditions - rules of hospitality (where guests will choose the beverage that host will drink for the night, and will receive alcohol as a parting gift), ritual of coming of age (where child must make sake on his own and gift it to parents), and many others. Did you know, that before accepting coins alcohol was used instead?
>Not surprising, that with such tradition, alcohol produced by Yukimin is not mere product, but a work of art. You can find almost any drink here, but traditional sake is still holding the spot #1.
>This led to the development of related businessess, such as bars and restaurants.
>Foreign affairs is mostly friendly with other states, with notable mention of NePoLaBo alliance. It is not a rare sign to see a Husbands or Omaruza in /shishilamy/ territory, and vice versa. Recently there was unsuccessful attempt at unification of /nene/ and /shishilamy/.
>Attacks from schizos, antis or dramafags are rare and fast passing. More prominent threats lies within - yakuza gangs, controlling the underworld (there were rumors about high-ranking official with family ties to Yakuza organisations, but every person trying to investigate this disappeared), disguised /hag/ posters, always ready to strike, and last, but not least - the everpresent threat of /become/. For others /become/ is an external threat, but here Cult of Becoming is never too far.

Tried to base my idea on Rome after their Greek campaign, but later realised that roman culture was almost entirely replaced, so altered it to be mix of military nation with alcohol enthusiasts. Have no idea about the world, so tried to keep things vague about time period/magic/technology. Still not sure how to do this thing, but it could be changed if other people offer their ideas.

>>17105079
Unfathomably based, Climateanon. Incidentaly, I made a new thread template:

What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as rival nations fighting bitter battles for the glory of their oshis.

2x Map: https://files.catbox.moe/7l45om.png
EX Map: https://files.catbox.moe/2v0vvs.png
>!!! THIS FILE REQUIRES 5.5GB RAM TO OPEN !!!
>The map size is 54,000 x 27,000 pixels
>It is highly advised to "Right-click > Save target as" this image
>It is the largest filesize catbox will allow (186MB download, 195MB on disk)
>This map is to facillitate hamlet/village/town/city/etc. placement

CURRENT GOAL: Territory placement
>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>Geographical explanations of your region will help map placement.
>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.

CLIMATE POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean currents: >>17088663
Weather systems: >>17092403
Climate analysis: >>17105079

FLAG POSTS:
Anya-petra: >>16984731
Shishilamy: >>16985187
/who/: >>16988212
haachama: >>17025642
Watamelon: >>17000105
/gorlz/: >>17043147
/ybc/: >>17045476
/ringo/: >>17055183

PREVIOUS LORE POSTS:
The "Before" Times: >>17081270
/meat/ barbarians: >>16927563 >>16983587 >>16992575
/uoh/ pilgrims: >>16972928
/hfz/ gladiators: >>16978229 >>16991094 >>17043122
The Divine Principality of /pyon/: >>16978884
/ag/ tropical paradise: >>16979120
/nasfaqg/: >>16977754 >>16977849 >>17027803
/ag/: >>16982972
/2434/: >>16983324 >>17010485
/#/: >>17005984
/∞/: >>17020534 >>17020794 >>17030248 >>17030835 >>17031541
haachama: >>17023473
Luna/matsuri: >>17024619
/UUU/: >>17044989

LORE SCRAPS (NEED EXPANDING):
Micomet/Pekomiko: >>16981948
/vtsings/: >>16982525
/.../: >>16982630
/voms/: >>16982692
/become/: >>16983583
/ringo/: >>16983646
/vshojo/: >>16984833
/towa/: >>16984836
Luknights: >>16998218

>>17108657
>>!!! THIS FILE REQUIRES 5.5GB RAM TO OPEN !!!
nigga what

>>17108657
>>!!! THIS FILE REQUIRES 5.5GB RAM TO OPEN !!!
Holy fucking shit.

>>17081258
/∞/ is a central hub where other splits go to to indulge their degeneracy that they cannot in their homeland.

You fags better start claiming territories now. Pro-tip don't pick a land near the bigger threads or you lose

>>17105079
Actually fucking perfect

>>17108743
>>17108847
That's what Krita was telling me when I resized the 2x map. However, Krita may be lieing or I might be retarded. Most likely the latter.

>>17108657
So I've come to understand that /nasfaqg/ wants to claim this area

>>17109227
Aye, maybe also some more associated maritime territory to be a real merchant republic and control the straits.

>>17105079
If there is an intersection between /2434/ and Hororaibu historical borders, I claim a small city state there.
The Fallen ’Empire’ of /OG/

>>17108657
>5.5GB RAM
It's only a 300 MB file, are you decompressing the PNG or something?

>>17109598
That may be the case. It's a default install that I grabbed because I like the UI better than GIMP, so it may be set to decompress files that are able to be by default, I'm not sure I haven't played around with the settings yet

>>17108657
>CURRENT GOAL: Territory placement
>>Note that the current map isn't set in stone.
>>Geographical explanations of your region will help map placement.
>>Greentexts of your generals lore in /vt/ land are much appreciated.
>>Flags made for the region your oshi rules over are also appreciated.
>>17108858

We should start by agreeing to set the "major regional powers" in stone:
>Holo generals
>Niji generals
>VShojo
>Numbers
>NASFAQ
>"The Indies"
Their positions should be fixed and should account for proximity to each other (/hlgg/ and /NijiEN/ being too close together would be weird).

>>17109382
So Liechstenstein/Monaco/San Marino but it kept the name Roman Empire

>>17108657
I'm not sure what has or has not been claimed but /hfz/ can be located either here...

>>17108657
>>17110998
here...

>>17108657
>>17110998
>>17111069
or anywhere here depending on what has already been taken and how close these locations are to the rest of the hololive empire (the closer the better)

>>17108972
Perfect for our island paradise, Anon. May your oshi always have a full belly.

im guessing here is where the /vt/ league is hosted given its absolute central location

How about this?
We have fuckton hololive threads, so it will need a lot of space and different climates for them. Also it allows to have more variety with putting some threads closer or further from each other.
Niji threads notably increased their presence on this board with the en males, but there are still much less of them than hololive. Also, since both companies are compared so much and almost always there is a mention of other company in the threads they should share a border.
Indies - there are a lot of them and they are pretty different, so 2 islands with variety of climates go them, with possible separation by language.
Schizo and fetishes - while this board have a problem with the sheer amount of posters not taking their meds, it's hard to pick specific generals for them, so maybe it would be a better to assign them a big landmass with naming specific schizo cities, that often repeated? Fetish generals could be placed on islands with some living among the schizos.
Unaffiliated - neutral territory, for non-fetish generals without specific fanbase behind them - /numbers/, /ybc/ and this thread could be there.

>>17115170
I think that works really really well

>>17115170
i dont really see a reason not to let niji have that entire top section. there's a natural cutoff point with that thin piece of land connecting niji/holo territories. and the climate argument seems strange considering its only dding the same climates that are already on the bottom continent
i'd just wait to see how it plays out first and if holo really does need more space before sectioning off territories

>>17115170
Looks good!

>>17115506
Ok, What is the reason for niji to have the entire northern convenient? Given the size of hololive's presence on this board it makes sense for them to have a continent spanning cultural base/empire. Niji's presence on the board isn't big enough to justify a continent of that size. The new cut off is also natural given how the land narrows there.

I went ahead and threw the map onto a globe to see what it would look like. Behold the planet of /vt/!
And here's the original, uncompressed version because >file size limits: https://files.catbox.moe/mki289.gif

I imagine /nijiID/ as basically a mostly peaceful port city-state, supportive of their much larger and notorious sister-nation EN, while still keeping amicable relations all over the world, from indies to Niji JP, and even from Holo ID nations. Their population small yet strangely zealous, they seem to treat their chuuba gods almost like family. Raiders and those who might lay claim to their land never seem to succeed, as the nation seems to occasionally disappear overnight like a ghost, yet, always seems to return. Often the city seems so quiet you can only hear the sounds of your own footsteps. Yet when their gods show their presence, it said the people cry out with reverence, a chorus of voice screaming "WANGY WANGY".

>>17115676
Just add some variation in some of the climates to the right side then.

>>17115895
Fantastic work Anon, that looks great!

>>17115506
I used climate and size both (mostly size) to point out why I put hololive there and not in place of indie for example - it could be done with separation by language, with jp on one island and en/id on the second. But that way there will be problems due to lack of space. And niji definitely won't be able to fill all this space, even if given to them. I am not even sure if there will be more jp niji territory beyond vampire and jk. Climate was not main argument here.

>>17109360
how about this for a more connected territory for the serene republic? or would the area be too large?

>>17117327
It is more connected, but I feared that it would be both too large and also maritime republics tended to have those small overseas holdings along the trade routes, usually consisting of a single trading city, fort, and some outposts.

>>17115170
this looks great but where would the bait threads on the catalog be a part of?

Claiming this island for morig if thats cool
>/Morig/ or deadbeat island is an unusual place. It is filled with traders from all places be they hololive, Niji , Vshojo or Indie. A place where many come to proselytize and shill their chosen chubba patron. The Island being outside of the protective hololive core is often raided by degenerates and schizos. The degenerate's cries for feet, futa and punishment ring loud while the schizos plead their blasphemous rrates against the island chosen patron Mori Calliope, the musical lady of death. The lady of death is surprisingly kind to her followers, affectionately referring to them as "Her Deadbeats". She provides comfort and warm to the wayward souls that find themselves on island. Deadbeats are divided between three groups. The schizo among them whos inherent weakness erupts almost spontaneously. The truly devoted whos loyalty to their dark lady is without end. Finally the fickle, the deadbeats who when times are though on the island either though famine or raiding emigrate to safer more stable locations but when times are great find themselves returning. The islands religions ceremonies are held in underworldian hot springs something unique to the island. Colours of red and pink are surprisingly what decorates the dark ladies chosen priests and priestess, being her favourite colours. The island lacks a military large enough to protect it in times of trouble but though the strength and guile of its warriors it is able to maintain some influence over the greater hololive collective
>>17109360
hopefully this isn't too embarrassing. I don't writefag ever. I tried to make things somewhat accurate to thread lore. I might add more later.

>>17117520
Damn I didn't meant to tag any posts

>>17117563
You sniped a deadbeat there, what an aim. Holy shit.

>>17117520
Oh Ya I also picked the island because it had a mediterranean culture

>>17117520
that wasnt bad at all. Good job anon

>>17115895
you might want to add vertical buffer to reduce the distortion from the map

>>17117471
They would share the schizo lands. Dramafags behave in a same way schizo does - they have an idea in their head, and they make thread about it, no matter how retarded it is. But while schizo will keep doing this shit for a long time, bait threads will be made only if they keep providing (You) to OP.

here's a general idea for half of the fetish island, borders are probably a bit too large for most generals but this is just a vague idea and they can be balkanized further, also im not that autistic to remember every fetish general in existence.
meat is a large steppe empire with access to both the inland sea and access to the wider ocean up north, with a nicer climate to settle there
ryona borders them for thematic reasons
ringo is among the central west mountains, with good wider ocean access and a wide array of vertical diversity, maybe the southern portion is too much but it is a snowy shithole down there so keep that in mind.
bordering ringo is both pits and belly, which are semi related. initially i placed pits in the south of ringo but it seems more thematically appropriate for it to be in a hotter climate.
feet is large enough that i feel it should be on an island of its own with a good central location, though maybe that island could be split up.
im not sure if thighs would be too out of the way where i placed it.
i dont think hag and uoh belong on the main island but their current islands are probably too small, maybe the island where i placed feet could be split between them. idk where feet would be placed, maybe the boot in the southeast but that's also a snowy shithole.

>>17110181
The way things are progressing, picrel is looking like it makes sense

>>17122964
That island you named meat has been long claimed by /ybc/
Sorry

>>17122964
im pretty sure ybc was interested in that island north of the schizocontinent >>17094084
/nasfaqg/ would like some of the coastal regions near the island >>17109360 or >>17117327

>>17123115
Ah that's true. There's even a nice little map for it >>17094084
I do like the way >>17122838 has divided up the mainland though, I think it'd be good to get the fetishes squared away first before going further

>>17122838
Top right island for kigurumi.

>>17122838
If you want some of the areas to be warmer, it could be justified with volcanism, e.g, iceland

/rrat/ rep here, gonna need Council and HIRyS to pick places first given we are in the mountain trade route of their area

>>17122838
heres a quick revision
hag is in the south because the cold preserves age and because russian hags.
uoh close to hololive and a central trading spot
feet is north for same reason as pits, sweaty feet.
if using >>17123571 the areas in blue would be really nice small spots for balkanization

>>17123366
Okay, so attached is a clean version of the continent taken from the 200MB master, think we should expand on >>17124329 proposals. I also came up with a name for the continent, "Fetischizon"

>>17124908
Update with "The Isle of Yubicraft" added

testing bump limit

>>17122964
May I claim this territory for the Suisei general? I don't know about writing the history but it's probably a naval nation that guides itself by looking at the stars in the night. Maybe they have civil wars every now and then. The capital would be in the humid continental part of the country

BUMP LIMIT, NEW THREAD
>>17126327
>>17126327
>>17126327