/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Nobody fucking cares shut the fuck up.

>>17078844
Mori please... Just go to Twitch like you want to

>>17078844
after seeing how the nijisanji males function, it eased me to the idea but this whole mori thing makes me hope holostars EN never happens.
its not even that the niji en males are gay, I dont think they are, but they dont seem to be actively fucking the niji girls. and if they are, they are somehow avoiding drama while mori is freaking it over a single superchat and replying to cuck memes on twitter.

>>17078844
I don't disagree with you, but you anti-Mori people need to reject the unicorn faggots who cried about the Holostars collab for a week immediately instead of cozying up with them so much. You are currently lumped together because the perception is you have the same agenda, with Mori being the easiest target available.

Are you saying Mori is accidentally based? Condombeats, I kneel.

>>17078873

What are you talking about asshole? Everyone obviously cares and that's the entire problem

>>17078844
February 1st, 2021 was the day I changed my career to something I love doing. I wonder if you remember that day too. You probably do since that was the day you released your hit single, Off With Their Heads. From the time you released it, you received a ton of hate and controversy, but you stood strong, and you made your radical message loud and clear.

I stopped dreaming, and I started doing, and I know many constantly underestimate the power and inspiration music brings but I was touched, moved, and sent spiraling away from a future that could have left me with nothing, just an empty husk toiling away for money, another number to a corporate that didn't care, a name to fade away into nothing, a life wasted.

You face more now than before, and I am not going to be passive. This will reach you. I will stand by you as just another username in a sea of your fans. You earned your name and fame, the brightest fucking drop of red in an ocean of blue, and stood bold. You will stand bold again through your current time of hardship. You made your own dream come true and lead others like myself to do the same.

You never doubted yourself, and if in secret, it wasn't true, then right fucking now it's true, because if you can lead me to feel this way, the opposite can be true. Perhaps a sea will come for you, but you are strong and will hold fast, and even if you think you are alone, know that there will be those like me who will stand by you and your ideals to the end. You value freedom and boldness, then you must be both free and bold to all obstacles that stand in your way, just as you taught me, a small and humble writer who learned to struggle against complacency and fitting the mold.

Never give up. Never be discouraged. Never listen to the masses that want to drag you down. Never give in to the mold. Above all, never ever doubt yourself.

Always push forward. Always break your chains. Always go beyond. Always listen to yourself above all others. Always love yourself.

You taught all these things to me through your ideals and though I am nameless now, you reached out to my heart and gave me the strength to become a light against the dark, however small it may be.

Never stop. To my oshi

Give up anon and if you want fun male female co-ed experience go to nijisanji or vshojo

Accept that Hololive is actually a containment center for unicorns and dumb fucks who cant accept reality that all women want to be dicked and suck cock and their oshis are getting butthole enlargement treatment every night while they send their moneh thinking shes the perfect little innocent girl

>>17078844
>This is the real fucking problem with Mori's drama. In rapid fit of retarded decisions she's risking polarizing everyone into Us vs Them camps and making the anti-malecollab people double down.
Huh, I didn't see it that way. Maybe Mori was the good guy all along. Deadbeats are still cucks though and I hate her "songs".

>>17078844

>Be male idolchad who gets into HolostarsEN
>Somehow have good chemistry with Mori, whatever, we interact in a few collabs and that's it. We're both idols, we both belong to the fans.
>Mad anti draws art of me fucking her to rile up unicorns
>Ignore it since I don't wanna fuel any negative sentiment towards me or her and I don't want any future collabs with her to be awkard
>She responds to the art saying she really enjoyed the bit of cum splattering on her inner thigh and gives the guy a big ups.
>mfw

Yes, Mori is doing more to hurt the potential for male collabs than anyone right now. Isn't that obvious? Even if holo management doesn't do anything I can't imagine any of the other girls seeing this situation and going "boy this makes me want to do a collab with that guy I know"

>>17078844
>Mori destroyed all h0m0shart beggars
WTF I love the lean reaper now

Big if true.

I hate Mori even less now

>>17078844
i like vtubers because theyre real women that you can almost pretend arent huge sluts, like every other woman. callie is not even trying anymore.

>>17078844
I need to thank Mori then
Fuck male collabs
I watch Niji JP and their worst content is male-female collabs (excluding big events)

>>17078873

>>17078896
she does and donates to male streamers with your SC

>throwing away what makes your company great
How can they possibly think they can do men better than niji when they have the stars?

>>17078844

>>17078844
You do you fuckers feel like you have some kind of mandate or need to force it in when it's the most successful vtuber outfit the world has ever seen 10000% NOT because of males? The cute girl experience obligatorily will not come from males, end of story. Mixing them in with cute girls will only distract from the cute girls. If Stars is that much an issue fucking fire them then to get over your guilt of their failure, produced by Holo fans wanting to see cute girls, and focus on the cute girls.

Actually, if anything she shows how safe it is to collab with the Stars. Mori collabs with a literal Holo anti, gives him condom money, admits to taking drugs in Japan, and in the end nothing significant has happened.
If this is the worst the shitstorm can get, then male collabs with stars for EN won't even register on the radar of something that's a controversy.

>>17081787
That's more on the part of cowardly EN management trying to rebrand utter fucking failure as "progress" for the company. I really wonder how/why the JP uppers tolerate this shit going this far.

Many fans, holomems, staff, ect. lots of people have been working behind the scenes trying to ease the viewers into the idea of sipping syrup and simping ecelebs who shit on our company. Both to allow more interaction outside the company and to hopefully lift some eceleb dudes to our vaginas, they're drowning in and get them more involved in events and concerts and things.
...

>>17079045
Connor's in Holostars?

>>17081970
It's proof positive some shitstirrer subhuman literally doesn't know what he's talking about.

>>17078844
nice blogpost
tl;dr

>>17078941
no one fucking cares, get off /vt/ and twitter you fucking mong

Damn son, imagine unironically playing into the weaboo virgin cuck stereotype

>>17079068
>>17079070
Mori is the HoloJesus taking all of the sins onto herself.

>>17078844
Fuck off, homobeggar.

>>17078844
As an alcoholic myself and seeing some shit she's said, she needs to take a step WAY back. If she's just saying it for image, then she isn't cultivating a good image. If she's actually blitzed, she needs to step away from the bottle and twitter/reddit.. I don't hate her, I don't really want her to leave.

>>17081970
The only way they could defeat the King, Vox Akuma.

>>17078961
t. Fedora neckbeard incel

>>17078873
this

>>17084229
that?

>>17079045
kek

>>17078873
FPBP

The whole Mori situation is blamed to 'Idol Culture'. It's not. It's her own mismanagement of her public figure and inability to take a mature stance against criticisim.
Now, the rest of holomems not being able to even imply the existence of a male in their surroundings, is idol culture's fault. Just attracts unicorns that will stab your chest at any given moment. If cover wants an EN branch they better make sure they're all fags that do cocksucking asmr if they even think about a collab with the girls unless they want the special snowflakes to start another useless drama.
Face it holobros, this was bound to happen. Enjoy being Virtual AKB48 minus the positives.

>>17084067
you actually read that shit? what does it say?

>>17078873
Who actually okayed those twintails by the way? It looks like a dogshit fan concept photoshop. Why does Hololive let their artists phone everything in so hard? It's so fucking annoying, because if it was well executed Ame would look amazing with twin tails instead of like an abomination.

>>17078961
Jesus Christ this is high quality cringe

>>17084785
Look at Coco's model.
Now look at the new kson model.

The artists know what they're doing but evidently cover doesn't. They're either telling artists to go with those shitty design choices, or they just let the artist do whatever since they're paying the bare minimum and want it fast.

Maybe all along, Calli was the hero we needed. Maybe this will result in m*le collab bans.

>>17084917
Yeah, I think you're actually right, but somehow that is even harder for me to understand. Maybe Cover is actually smart. They realize that spending extra money isn't worth it when 90% of the fans just enjoy the 'Meme" of twin tails, and don't actually care that it looks like shit.

>>17084785
Have you seen Gura's old rigging? Especially with that cat ear model. They won't even put genuine effort into their golden goose. They know the fans will eat anything up, so the bare minimum is all they need to put in.

>>17084756
Some schizo claiming that Mori fixed his shitty life and gave him a purpose

>I actually believe that my contrarianism and posting memes will affect the world
>I actually believe staying on my computer doing nothing but posting on obscure websites and not going out and challenging who I believe are wrong, will give me more credibility
>I actually believe that trying to contradict the very people that built all the technology around me and calling them liars, while using said technology, will make me look credible
>I actually believe I'm important
>I actually believe my behavior will get me anywhere

>>17078844
All I want is for Mori to stop falling for bait so her Cucked NTR fan bois will stop shitting up the board because they can't stop replying to said bait? Is that too much to ask?

>>17085006
The viewers lose good art. If we complain, we're entitled assholes denigrating the craft of a hard working artist.
The artists lose cash and some rep if they don't get a good enough result. If they complain, they lose public trust, future comissions, and worst case scenario, both, like what happened to mizuryu kei.
Only cover wins either way, which is why i don't doubt this is the case.

>>17085116
and his newfound purpose is to shit up the board with walls of text, I presume. Mori is truly a menace.

>>17078844
Cringe

>>17078961
Damn son all that blog and your oshi is still defending garbage that insults her coworkers.

>>17078918
nigger this isn't reddit, i can be shitting on Unicorns today and then shit on the girls for collabing with the dudes tomorrow and none of you retards would know

>>17078844
>hopefully lift holostars out of the abyss of disinterest they're drowning in
collaborating with girls wont lift them and they dont need any dumb EOPS In their chat who spam 'WHATS HE TALKING ABOUT'

>>17078844
What did Mori do?

>>17078844
Some passerby Oldfag here. I see some people deperately holding on to "She will be fine, stop caring and go touch grass" so I'm going to do some damage report and future projection as a intermediate active duty off duty grass person.

Okay, let's see the damage report: Major PR shitstorm, lack of effort to defuse said shitstorm, false statement to cover-up outside organization on incident detrimental to current organization, bad judgement of organizational loyalty priority, rumors of drug use, accusation of cultural appropriation, and other fuckups I don't know of.

Something tells me COVER already saw the risk with TT "Collab" and such. Someone must have gave her plan a red light, at least once. But what would an egocentric joke of a rap-for-food "Star" would do, in such situation? She must have done typical "If you say no I quit" bullshit. Something something turntables.

Everyone wants colorful life. No one wants to be a wagecuck. Calli had a chance to be a star, the chance taken from someone else in the waiting line. Wasting a chance of being fully supported Vtuber? Like this? That's beyond dumb, actively harmful. She better fuck off and make a new spot for someone new, hopefully better than this *thing* we're discussing now.

Calli fucked up her career forever, not only in Vtuber industry but in pretty much in every weeb area. Big shots will laugh at the idea of picking up some controversial has-been, and minor players won't be able to afford her scandal or/and her ego. Anyone would recognize her voice and shitstorms will follow her. No new character. No new songs. No new collab.

Personally I hope she were to... Disappear. Forever. Do I sound too cruel for a boomer? She's going to pull off classic "Penny for a secret" if left unattended. She's gonna leak inside info, scandals, and make up cancerous bullshit that can benefit her. It's better if she gets broken and go off the grid for good.

>>17078844
The fact that she hasn't suffered any company-related consequences from this and has only been rewarded suggests this actually is going to affect nothing on the company level and it will either lead to them blundering into an even bigger controversy in the future when they learned nothing from this one or the cuckbeats will simply win and the rest of the girls will also start kicking out undesirables. This incident itself hasn't actually affected anything except get the community angrier and ready to start fighting over the next thing but the company doesn't care so far. Every EN girl will collab again with Mori in the near future and some JP's will and she will not have changed her stance, it will just build more and more tension and nobody in management will ever stop being cowardly enough to address it until they decide it's an acceptable loss to just write off the people that are angry with Mori. Mori won't do the respectful thing like Coco and just bow out, she will make them fire her and they won't do it out of fear.

>>17078844
i will harass the shit out of anyone who dares to normalize the idea of male collabs

>>17084917
>Now look at the new kson model.
fuck no, thank god coco got the boot and is as irrelevant as ever with numbers dropping each month. stupid fuck cant even listen to her tard wranglers in the first place

>>17085224
Yes

>>17087868
Are you alright, anon?
Seems like your life is consumed by your hatred of Mori.

>>17078844
5%

>>17078844
I don't think male simps would like to see their dear Vtaber getting nicely nice with some other dudes.

I don't give a fuck about males, i care that three greasy fucks are somehow more important than her coworkers even to the point of her sperging out on her corporate account and accidentally admitting to drug use in japan out of all places.

>>17097092
This. How the fuck am I supposed to enjoy anything when there's a selfish poser in my sight? How the fuck am I to assume that there's slightest bit of sincerity in whatever she says or do, after all this?

>anti-male people
Why do they care?
It's clear that majority of the viewers do not give a fuck.
Cover could say fuck it and go all in on male collabs and fuck the pure idol weebs HARD. They already fucked over an entire country of bugmen, so why wouldn't they do it to some fucking gaijin?
End this pseudo-idol bullshit already. This shit of applying made up rules to what is basically a normal streamer has gone on long enough.
Hololive has always just been e-girls like every other e-girl on twitch, and I'm tired of pretending it's not. They managed to unintentionally convince a bunch of pathetic neckbeards that this e-girl is actually a pure virgin maiden, because she's anime! Oh surely she's faking an entire personality meant just for us!
Wake the fuck up faggots, you've been simping for 3D women this whole time, and with that comes the lying and diception you bitch and complain about them having. Your oshi has never been a pure virgin maiden. She's a 20-40 yearold e-girl getting paid to have fun entertaining some otaku's. Your oshi has likely been dicked down or scissored at least once.
It's time to sneed and go back to 2D and anime or admit you've become a fucking normal fag.

>>17098384
ironicchama...

>>17087868
>claimed to be oldfag
>we
Fuck off tourists, you just come to shit up the place

>>17087868
You didn't have to point out you're an oldfag since it's pretty clear you have no idea how things work

>>17087868
What I actually get from thsi is that Mori actually ain't graduating, becuase losing her would do more damage since she is a vindictive bitch and will start spewing rrats on Hololive which twitch and twitter trannies will believe since she's been an ''insider'', thinking again that she is ''owning'' Hololive for firing her without realizing (again) that she is damaging her friends an ex-coworkers more.

>>17099013
i for one is looking forward to seeing the cuckbeats defend Vei 2.0

>>17078844
Is obviously bait but I think it's interesting how it's basically like a bad guy monologue revealing his plan

>>17091374
Based

Coco would've wanted to collab with Stars and other male vtubers.

Anyone who doesn't support collabs with males is a commie zhang who hates freedom and creativity.

>>17099013
Can you fags explain to me why this whole thing would even remotely get Mori to graduate?
Coco fucking ruined an entire branch and got away with it, only graduating because she got sick of Xang's bullshit spreading to other members.
Majority of Calli viewers don't seem to care about this idol purity shit. 4k
Also why would Mori do any of that? Is this just rrat theory? Because it seems like majority of the bullshit about Hololive from here always ends up being rrats.

>>17078873
/thread

>>17099748
i doubt anyone really believes it will happen unless she get hit by the drug allegation

>>17099748
Most people are retarded, they expect celebrities to be held to the same standards as people of their own social class. This misunderstanding of the way things work is why they'll always be stuck in the bottom social class where they belong.

>>17099748
Simple, she is short tempered, a drunk and friends with someone who has poor wording, giving her background a check she is the perfect target to be groomed into anything and TT already praised Coco for going indie ignoring the fact that she dind't want to graduate but had to.

So putting 2 and 2 together, with a little bit of schizophrenia about older events, you can safely say that:

1- She's reading all of this and is getting tired and might actually quit

2- Her TT ''friends'' will encourage it to no end saying is the best decision in her life

3- Since TT>>>>>>Genmates matter more to her than anything else then guess what's going to happen

Ironically, Kiara was the one keeping Calli on check, she was actually a good influence for her, but SatanSquare had other plans.

>>17099748
More is clearly prideful and can't handle being wrong in any capacity. She seems exactly like the type to shit on others to boost her ego.

>>17085163
well it worked for coco antis

>>17099600
yes, i remember the stream when she collabed with Roberou, funniest thing i have ever seen

>>17078844
Anon only schizos care about the male streaming. She got triggered by shitpost. That's the only reason people are still talking about it.

>>17098384
based

>>17098384
I read this in Coco's voice.

>>17098384
this has to be a joke
no one watching Hololive JP would think this

Giving toxic superchat money to the people they are insulting in a very public manner is based as fuck regardless of who they are.

Noone gave a fuck when she had collabs with Homostars or Gigguk, but they cared about a much more annoying douchey eceleb. Really makes you think that most people's issues are with Connor, not male collabs in general...

I don't follow EN what happened with her?

>>17098384
>like every other e-girl on twitch
Do they actually like games or play games to the completion without doing necessary sex appeal?

>>17101993
Connor from Trash Taste insulted her EN colleagues and she took his side instead of theirs. Then she said she liked some rule 34 cuck porn of her getting fucked by Connor while a deadbeat was lying on the ground crying nearby. Then she said on twitter she was drinking lean, then she deleted that tweet and said she doesn't know what lean is.

>>17101993
Drug abuse, anon
Stay away from drugs. It will ruin your life

>>17078873
fpbp

>>17078873
Fee Pee Bee Pee

>>17100356
boom

>>17091374
/thread

>>17104345
>Then she said she liked some rule 34 cuck porn of her getting fucked by Connor while a deadbeat was lying on the ground crying nearby.
Link to the image?

>>17099600
Motherfucking this.

Hololive fandom is really trash. Good thing I stop watching them.

>>17101581
Nobody watching Holo JP cares about this shit in the first place because it exclusively concerns EN. All these retards screeching about the "unicorns" and how they want to see "unicorn seethe" are all EOPs that haven't been around for longer than EN has existed.

>fags dragging up Cocos corpse
they really have no shame huh?

>>17078844
>lots of people have been working behind the scenes trying to ease the viewers into the idea of male collabs. Both to allow more interaction outside the company and to hopefully lift holostars out of the abyss of disinterest they're drowning in and get them more involved in events and concerts and things.
Is not a matter of "try it and you will like it!" I tried to give the homos a chance in the past by my own, they just aren't for me, they didn't pass my threshold when I gave that chance and no matter the amount of shilling it won't change that fact, trying to force them in my feed has amplified and will only amplify the negative sentiment I already had since then, the same goes for any other male chubas, I only watch hololive for the waifu simulator and that's about it, trying to shove dicks in that ruins it for me.
Now, if the EN branch wants to open a male gen, well they are on their right to do so, just don't expect me to go along with the collabs, and the flirting and the ships.

>>17105039
enjoy

>>17081744
Jews always resist the natural way of things and form shadowy canals to groom public opinion to their satanic liking.

>>17105715
thanks
no idea why this is so controversial

>>17098384
>End this pseudo-idol bullshit already. This shit of applying made up rules to what is basically a normal streamer has gone on long enough.
Why the fuck would I watch hololive instead of normal streamers or even other chubas then?

>>17105671
I tried to say the same thing for a long time but somehow people were sure that if they force Stars down my throat long enough, I start to like them. Well, I didn't. The more you force something, the more people will resent it.

>>17106362
she bit 5 days old bait. thats naaaasty

>>17106075
ogey /pol/cel

>>17106362
You don't know why an idol calling her fans cucks would be controversial?

>>17078844
cuck

>>17081992
You are proof positive that cuckbeats are braindead.

>>17107108
There's something wrong with this world and everybody wants to blame that particular ethnicity and they don't name it. If that doesn't say all you need to know, you are just happy to be willfully ignorant.

>>17099748
coco sacrificing herself to kill the chink branch is unbelievably based. i'd like to see mori use that same glorious japanese kamikaze mindset and nosedive into some sort of final yab in a collab with a male, thereby killing off male collabs for the entire company forever.

>>17078961
>>17084067
>>17084832
>>17086803
Shame everyone thinks you wrote this yourself when you were just trying to shitpost

> You don't know why an idol calling her fans cucks would be controversial?

how do we protect Mori from normies?

>>17111270
The most you can do is probably take social media and reddit away from her because she's incapable of handling them like an adult.

>>17078844
>male collabs.
Not watching, dropping any chuubas who do them. Simple.

>>17111270
Too late.
She makes music for weeb weeblets, sells her image of an 'edgy le funny girl xd' who doesn't even likes idols, and associated herself with the lowest common denominator in terms of 'anitubers', who are all normies profiting from a niche they stopped caring a while ago.
She's reaping heh what she sowed.

>>17078844
Please stop trying to infiltrate and corrupt our hobby and the things we enjoy.

>>17078873
So true!!!

Walnut is always right

>>17078844
I mean it might happen with EN, but its a cold day in hell before JP holofans will allow Rushia, Lamy, Miko, Pekora etc collabs with males.

The fact that so many books still name Mori Calliope as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" VTuber ever only tells you how far HoloEN still is from becoming a serious art. HoloJP critics have long recognized that the greatest streamers of all times are Akai Haato and Tokoyami Towa, who are not the most famous or richest or most viewed of their time, let alone of all time. NijisanjiEN critics rank the highly controversial Pomu over Apex streamers who are highly popular with audiences around the world. HoloEN critics are still blinded by commercial success. Mori Calliope gets more supas than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore she must have been the greatest. HoloJP and Nijisanji critics grow up watching the VTubers of the past. HoloEN critics are often totally ignorant of the VTubers of the past, they barely know who has the biggest numbers. No wonder they will think that Mori Calliope did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, Mori Calliope is emblematic of the status of VTuber criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it wigger hip hop MVs or CCV) and too little to the merits of real streamers. If somebody broadcasts the most divine streams but no corpo picks her up and sells her around the world, a lot of HoloEN critics will ignore her. If Hololive picks up a streamer who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her. This is the sad status of HoloEN criticism: HoloEN critics are basically publicists working for Mori Calliope. They simply highlight what product Hololive wants to make money from. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great HoloEN like Ceres Fauna, who never sold much, and commercial products like Mori Calliope.

>>17078844
>We were trying to convince people to change their minds
Not happening. Fuck you.

so is anyone going to post the image

>>17107977
No en fans are in a cult

I'm surprised I haven't seen people bringing this up again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6LJIQeN50

>>17078873

>>17113999
A cult? what does that even mean?

>>17078844

>working behind the scenes trying to ease the viewers into the idea of male collabs.
>ease the viewers into the idea of male collabs.

Why is idol culture so fucking pathetic?

>>17078844
cant wait to read none of that lol

>follow rapper
>be surprised when she's a petty bitch who gets high and mocks people who she doesn't like
I don't get what people were expecting

>>17078844
A thousand or so shitter schizos have never been a relevant portion of Hololive's audience and any capitulation to them is antithetical to the necessary growth of the audience

>>17115251
Are you retarded? Unicorns, gachikoi, and idolfags make up a significant portion, if not a majority of their income. You think normalfags are buying their voicepacks for $120 or sending $500 aka supas? You're a delusional idiot.

>>17104345
Kek

>>17114605
>Why is idol culture so fucking pathetic?
Idol culture has actual standards and thus actual quality content. There's more than enough low effort trash out there.

>>17078873
FPBP

>>17087868
This actually sounds fucking awesome, the flame wars would be so much fun.

>>17114605
ESL

>>17079045
Is the art good tho?

> Idol culture has actual standards and thus actual quality content. There's more than enough low effort trash out there.

> Are you retarded? Unicorns, gachikoi, and idolfags make up a significant portion, if not a majority of their income. You think normalfags are buying their voicepacks for $120 or sending $500 aka supas? You're a delusional idiot.

wait whats happening?
Is the yab that Calli donated to Connor?
is that the whole of it?
She was on their shitty fucking podcast, i dont see how this is worse than that

>>17121917
What's the problem? Who else is buying this shit and sending $100 superchats?

>>17078961
Imagine being that big of a cuck

>>17117415
Unicorns, gachikoi and idolfags are NEETs that can't afford shit. It's the middle age normie salarymen and professional class that are the whales, the ones that are keeping kson afloat.

>>17122336
so how rushia is at the top having so many unicorns

>>17113765
Cover doesn't prevent Rushia, Lamy, Miko, Pekora, etc from male collabs. They just don't want to. Other members can and will do it if they want, like Maturi, Fubuki(Oga, etc) and Waki Rose and stuff.

> What's the problem? Who else is buying this shit and sending $100 superchats?

>>17122878
retard, coco always said she won't collab with males because of unicorns. now she's doing everything she wants and her income is the same. unicorns can't afford shit, they're useless NEETs

>>17123201

>>17125796
b-based

>>17125796
i kneel

>>17125796
thank you supachat!

>>17125796
>not a single dime to ENwhores

>>17098384
You straight up don't understand how idols and idol marketing work, giving up unicorns and gachikois means you are essentially giving up your core audience, these "NEETs" and "neckbeards" are exactly type of people who get you the initial push, first ones on stream, first ones to repost your promo posts and to create real engaging buzz around your activities.
Nobody cared for Mori before she put on her reaper persona, that was her deal with the devil, her soul contract - abide by idol world rules and receive enormous, disproportionate support, for her frankly average quality music.
Whole "impostor syndrome" arc is just her actually reading the fine print in this deal, and realizing that she is not capable to fulfill it on her end.

>>17129144
I saw Ame once in there but that's it

>>17098384
>Hololive has always just been e-girls
How many of them have talked about ex-boyfriends, or politics, how many use their real voice ?

Why pretend to be an anime character if you're not gonna play a role?

Truth is, every last one of them puts on an idol act and appeals moreso towards that crowd.
You think Mori cut down on swearing for the pittance of ad revenue?
Did ASMR date streams for no reason ?

Bullshit, how many women online not putting on an act could go years without mentioning am ex?

>>17078844
She's doing what has to be done. You can't ever please idolfags. It's all or nothing. Mori is going to be at the forefront of changing idol culture for the better and it's going to be a beautiful thing. Males are people too. Sorry seaniggers

>>17130615
$5 to Ame. Truly the best EN.

>>17085163
>do you really believe typing bs rrats in a taiwaneese cheese making forum will acomplish anything? Ahahaha you unicorns are delusional
>Calli on hiatus
>woah this is /vt/'s fault

>>17081816
Does the jp side speak english? If the en side controls the flow of information to the jp side then obviously they'll only ever see something wrong if the entire en side lights itself on fire. That doesn't need language to communicate. Beta doesn't seem like the type to follow the "honesty is the best policy" manner of doing business, especially with his passive-aggressive "holostars are hololive" shit.

>>17081787
>well it's fucking burning, but look! It didn't melt the steel beams! So it's safe!

oh golly, are the same people who ruined games, dnd, starwars, LotR, anime going to ruin another hobby/niche while calling everyone incel?

>>17134079
yeah unfortunely, i give less than 1 year before HoloEN became these twitch circlejerks. you can still enjoy HoloJP though, western normies don't have the power to change it since japanese language gatekeep them

>>17134079
It never ends, these parasites will eventually kill everything

>>17134079
>>17135900
>>17136081
> muh normies
kys

>>17125796
How does Rushia do it?

>>17078873
I read it in her voiice

>>17136588
'GFE' aka incel magnet. so she attracts mentally ill subhumans like her

>>17136588
Cute, tongue clicks and Eva Unit screams
At least that's what did it for me

>>17134079
>>17135900
>>17136081
Get fucked, incels.

>>17087868
This TL;DR would have been halfway relevant if it had been posted a year ago.

She could go down in flames and take half of Cover with it and she's going to do just fine for herself, whatever comes next.

>>17137251
is this real?

>>17078844
Nobody cares

>>17078844
meds

>>17078873
lmfao fuckin based

>>17078961
Condombeats...

>>17091374
you go sis! let's cancel them and normalize no-male collabs! btw what's your @?

>>17078844
Idk what HoloEN management is thinking, but the wider Hololive fan base isn’t going to just accept all of the holomems suddenly collating with dudes everyday. Regardless of what Mori does.

Fans expect something different from hololive than from Ninisanji. Hololive definitely has an Idol aspect to it even if the woke EN fans don’t like that.
Mori is also an idiot for saying she is going to start streaming on Twitch when her fans hate Twitch and JP bros don’t ever use that platform.

>>17145716
@kfpunderseller, fujo sis

>>17084917
I think most of the fault lies on the rigger tho,
with different physics those twin tails woldn0t look as cartoony.
I also think cover might be requesting a lot of last minute changes and "extras" because some of the accessories look a bit off

>>17145716
@nuxtaku

>>17146383
fucking kek

>>17078873
HOLY BASED

>>17084832
>>17086803
>>17084067
Why are you retards replying to a copypasted Reddit post?

>>17145716
@watsonameliaen

>>17087868
You sound like a faggot but are mostly right. She's been boiling the frog on standards for a year now and the debate has slid from "dont collab with cringetuber grifters" to "dont defend cringetuber grifter antis" and "dont laugh in the face of your audience for not liking you associating with grifters".
She will be openly collabing with cringetubers on her channel a year from now.
She hasn't been playing the character she was assigned from the very beginning and just acts like herself while wearing an avatar. She will keep pushing until she gets what she wants or graduates

>>17099600
if thats true why hasnt kson collab'd with more male vtubers?

Mori...please...

>>17084604
>The whole Mori situation is blamed to 'Idol Culture'. It's not.
it is.

>>17100356
>well it worked for coco antis
really?

>>17078844
whore

>>17107977
>You don't know why an idol calling her fans cucks would be controversial?
I don't see the problem.

>>17113765
>JP holofans will allow Rushia, Lamy, Miko, Pekora etc collabs with males.
kek actually believing this.

>>17145826
>but the wider Hololive fan base isn’t going to just accept all of the holomems suddenly collating with dudes everyday.
sure.....

>>17148352
>She will keep pushing until she gets what she wants
and she will.

>>17134079
This is the part where they call you an incel gatekeeper

>>17152782
>This is the part where they call you an incel gatekeeper
is that wrong?

>>17152174
If idol culture is against alcoholism, habitual lying and taking the bait then I guess I'm a fucking unicorn

>>17152896
>I guess I'm a fucking unicorn
holy shit you are disgusting

>>17078844
JP walls are far more solid, but it's not a cultural arrogance to have said wall. That wall being a true union to keep the final yab from ever rooting and spreading to anything the idol once touched. Mori is the critical lesson of what happens when you allow that wall to weaken.

>>17092567
>fuck n-
Stopped reading right there. Go back to your shithole, kschizo.

>>17078873
Fpbp Unicorn can't stop seething

>>17152218
No, not really.

I do not want male collabs and will not watch them, nothing can make me change my mind

>she's risking polarizing everyone into Us vs Them camps and making the anti-malecollab people double down. Undoing the efforts of the girls and staff trying to improve this situation.
I just wanna see aruran collab with kiara and make a bunch of Italy and Italian painter axis jokes...
I hope things don't get too bad

>>17099600
You don't even watch Coco, retard.

>>17153826
>Kiara collabing with a male
>Kiara
She's practically got man ptsd. Just say the word man in front of her and she has dicks flash before her eyes.

>>17078844
>All the people taking what OP says at face value when the thread title is literally horseshit.
Sad.

>>17153666
>Mori is the critical lesson of what happens when you allow that wall to weaken.
my sides, jp fucking loves mori

>>17154125
>Kiara collabing with a male
yes, she say in stream that he wants to collab with males.

>>17078844
>This is the real fucking problem with Mori's drama.
The actual real problem is /vt/ being massive drama whores.

>>17154416
Wasn't that some shitty rrat and she said she was going to do it for a sponsored stream or something? Or was it literally about the yagoo holotalk?

>>17121476
It's that meme from the girlfriend for hire manga

>>17078961
>people taking this seriously
what kind of board is this?

>>17098384
Are people that retarded that they think Vtubers are virgins or something? They are just like any real-life girl obviously.

Love me some Mori, I wish more of the ens were more music based. Can I blame omega?

>>17155076
as someone said in another thread, it's not thinking they'e virgin, it's more like "I'm here/paying for the anime girl experience, at least wear the mask while on the clock"
I don't encessarily agree, but I think that's the point

>>17155177
>"I'm here/paying for the anime girl experience, at least wear the mask while on the clock"
that sounds beyond pathetic

>>17155238
maybe, but that's the point of vtubers if you didn't notice the anime avatars, or at least one of the points
also it can apply to performers in general to be fair, fans feeling betrayed their singer/writer/actor lie choice has always beena thing

>>17155349
>but that's the point of vtubers
kek sure

>>17155349
sorry, wrote too fast
*by their celebrities' life choices

>>17155366
what is it then? asking seriously, I'm a disgusting newfag to the whole thing

>>17155401
>what is it then? asking seriously
entertainment when you are bored and have nothing better to do.

>>17155434
ok? then why choosing specifically people pretending to be anime characters if you're not interested in the anime character element

>>17155462
>ok? then why choosing specifically people pretending to be anime characters if you're not interested in the anime character element
because they are entertaining and cute?

>>17155462
I like looking at cute anime girls, then the moments where something genuine shines through are what does it for me. However here I think people just hatewatch them.

>>17155529
that's... the point anon

>>17152896
what 0 pussy does to a mf

Get a coke sheeesh.

>>17134079
bro, touch sex, have grass women should be allowed to do what they want, idol culture is toxic masculinity. japan's idol culture needs to change to be more like twitch culture

Hmm...

>>17156260
artia did nothing wrong. imagine saying she should drop her chinese friends because they hated hololive instead of harassing coco. incredibly rude.

>>17156217
>bro, touch sex, have grass women should be allowed to do what they want, idol culture is toxic masculinity. japan's idol culture needs to change to be more like twitch culture
I agree but I don't want to have sex with grass

Is this the cuck general?

>>17157158
It is now.

>>17156217
Sure maybe you hate your job culture, Mori. Yes you can go play on twitch, as everyone of your friends over there want you to. It now will not be as Mori. Keep that in mind.

>>17157564
mori using 4chan are you insane?

bump now

>>17155177
No. You're retarded if you think that.
>>17155076
You don't belong here.