/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Yagoo wishes he could clone shinove.

>Go ONE fucking day without your manager around
>Cause the biggest shitfest that HoloEN's had to deal with thus far
I have only the utmost sympathy for J-chad for having to deal with this drunk menhera of a wigger.

>>17027679
God I'd be so mad at myself for trusting Mori to go 1 (one) day without fucking herself as soon as Jchad let her off the leash.

I mean I'd have thought after a year of close mommying supervision Mori should have known how to not draw negative attention to herself.. right? That's probably what J-chad assumed too.

Like if I were her I'd unironically either resign if I didn't have the heart to truly go hard on Mori, or otherwise be prepared to either be rotated to another person or project or let go.

>>17027679
JChad is the only good manager in holoen and mori some how still fuck up

>>17027679
Mori is the type of person you shouldn't supervise since she will always rebel back, instead letting her roam free to hurt herself so you can say i told you so dwag

>be Mori's manager
>do nothing like always because it's an easy gig and if someone fucks up and the company goes under then hey, they can't contact my previous employer now can they?

>>17027859
>Biggest shit fest
Dramafags memories are so bad

>>17027679
>Mommy's going to be gone for a day sweetie
>make sure you behave and don't burn the house down
>fast forward to now

>>17028013
If you're going to cite the Taiwan fiasco I'd say that's more of a HoloJP issue, but I guess it's fair to say that that was all of Hololive. I'll admit that if there's something else, it's definitely slipped my mind.

Now that i think about it
>Gura got the incompetence Enma because she potentially cause the least yab
>Mori got the cool Jchad to tardwraggle her because her wigger tendency

>>17028148
It checks out

>>17027679
She needs to be reassigned, it's obvious that she's too buddy-buddy with Mori and lost any authority over her. If she was actually good at managing Mori, she would push her towards integrating with Hololive more and reprimand her for stupid shit, might have prevented this. Instead she's enabled her and been a glorified inbetween, creating a superfluous friendship that benefits neither.

>>17027679
J-Chad's design makes my dick hard. idk if that's normal

>>17028148
Gura has been on the scene for years, is an oldfag and has already learned not to say dumb shit the hard way. Oh she has a spicy side alright, but as long as blue woman doesn't fall back on the sauce train the biggest yab she can make is fall in the crosshairs of menhera pedo crusaders, which is a laughably minor issue.

>>17028148
Even without a manager you'd never see Gura do this. She barely uses social media

>>17027679
Hololive is too lenient.
They need to make their talents understand they are HIRED EMPLOYEES.
They are bound by CONTRACT.
All their accounts belong to Hololive, therefore they can't use their accounts for their personal whims.
Therefore all actions are on behalf of Hololive.
Hololive is not associate with Trash Taste or similar leeches, so would they allow it?
Mori gifting subs to Connor should have been a contract break since it I doubt Hololive allows their accounts for personal spending.

>>17029681
They generally don't care about EN as much to bother managing it well.

>>17029406
>>17028148
Even Ame is better at keeping yabs at bay. I'll keep saying it, they both should give Mori a crash course on how to not be a retard on the internet.

>>17029496
Can't cause a social media YAB if you don't use your social media.

>>17029337
I have one too, I'd say it's normal

>>17033204
>a crash course on how to not be a retard on the internet
You're talking about this as if it was a oopsie doopsie mistake and not a fundamental aspect of her character.

Captcha: 24WAH please get better soon, Ina

>>17027679
I wonder if J-Chad's condition is worse than we think. Like she's in the hospital bad.

>>17033422
Probably necked herself

>>17033422
"Gosh can i manage the 5view aussie instead"

>>17033422
>J-chad has the coof and Mori is freaking out about it

If I was J-Chad right now, I would be snorting vitamin-c powder, eating nothing but ginger and soup for every meal, and drawing up a plan to commission the tightest anti-drunk phone lock possible to force onto every device Mori owns with an internet connection.
Fortunately, it is not my job to babysit the biggest drunken retard in Hololive.

>>17027679
KEKd, I hadn't even realized that. Thanks for the laughs op

>>17028148
classic risk compensation; when people feel there's a safety net to catch their mistakes they take on riskier behavior and vice versa.

>>17029681
>They need to make their talents understand they are HIRED EMPLOYEES.
>They are bound by CONTRACT.
>All their accounts belong to Hololive, therefore they can't use their accounts for their personal whims.
>Therefore all actions are on behalf of Hololive.
this is how you ruin vtubing

>>17033422
id imagine something like pic

>>17036201
oh shut the fuck up you prude, moronic imbecile.

>>17027679
Stop advertising your clips channel.

>>17028076
amegeddon...

>>17037329
Morigeddon

>>17027724
>Only male manager at cover
>Only one who can wrangle his retards

Damn

>>17027679
>>17027934
do remember that j-"chad" was also coco's manager, and we know how coco's career ended up.
even if kalliope mori wasn't a blithering idiot, you'd be looking at a cursed situation.
>>17028148
except enma is ina's manager, you fucking mongoloid. gura, ame, and kiara have jenma.
>bwaaah everything I don't like is enma bwaaaaah!

>>17027859
>biggest shitfest that HoloEN's had to deal with thus far
kek, you really believe this?

What happened?

>>17042083
Cuckbeats are seething because she fucked a youtuber.

>>17042083
Deadbeats are mad because she had relations with a youtuber.

Mori speaks rapper slang as if she was a Japanese person doing it ESL style.

>>17027679
Ringo can't catch a break, huh?

>>17042083
didnt listen

>>17028778
Kiara and Jenma seem to be doing fine

>>17042175
>>17042357
>>17042418

I forget how easily offended peeps are on here, heard there was something big going on so decided to see what's up and it's something like this.

>>17042585
mori admitted to substance abuse on twitter

>>17042585
mori lied that someone she's actively defending apologized to hololiveEN

>>17042585
I mean, people can try to spin it however they want, that it's a nothingburger, that it won't have any lasting effects, etc. But always keep in mind, Mori escalated it for a reason: she DOES consider it something important/worth going looney for the last few days.

>>17042585
trash taste doesn't like mecha

>>17042083
Mori consumed some wocky slush and decided to review a week old cuck comic starring her, the Welshman, and the eponymous cuckbeat by an /m/ anon.

>>17028013
>>17041452
name one en drama that was bigger than this you can't

>>17042797
Ina calling her fans virgins

>>17042861
Literally the first thing, ever, Ina shitposters got their hands on. Of course they were going to milk it for all its worth.

>>17042861
why is the tako so based?

>>17042861
holy shit, I am a virgin. How did she know that?

>>17027679
>talent sperging out over a few trolls
>thinks defending anitubers is a great idea
>turns the hugbox that is the reddit against her in an unprecedented move that has never been done by a talent until now
>blames it on her being high, in Japan out all places
>settles for the more obvious excuse of her being a drunkard instead
>hides away into an hiatus
Yeah, no fucking way cover is paying her enough to actually deal with this shit

>>17042861
Ina was just being honest and she wants you to do better.

>>17027679
mori is just adding to her rap credentials by partaking in recreational drugs

>>17043030
you forgot:
>says she needs to get more professional
>does exactly the opposite
>further antagonizes fans
>shitposts on twitter
>compares Yagoo, the founder of Hololive, who made all of it possible to some greasy mutt

>>17033422
yeah, after what mori did she probably tried killing herself.

>>17029681
>Mori gifting subs to Connor should have been a contract break
Yeah I didn't even think about that. You can't just log into your company account and go dump money on a random streamer wtf

>>17042861
Wtf I love Ina now

>>17042797
That whole venti pedo shit was actually way bigger than this. But gura being based as she is, handle it with class

>>17042083

>>17028013
>>17042861
She's right

>>17043241
was it though? it went out like a fart in the wind

>>17037329
>spergs off midway through stream to cry
>comes back later to finish the game

It was nowhere near as bad as Cali's BS

>>17043354
Yeah because gura didnt give her a single glance. Eventually the fanbase handle it on their own and cancelled the bitch. Something mori could really learn from. Too bad she has no trust and hate her own fanbase

>>17033422
iirc, shortly after announcing she was sick Mori said something along the lines of "respect her privacy and not go into details on what happened" so it's definitely more than just the sniffles

>>17042861
Source?

>>17043241
>handle it with class
the shark does nothing, and that's exactly what Mori should've handled it kek

>the shark does nothing
except a gugu gaga in a thumbnail

What's the yab, I don't get it?

>>17043354
because Gura did not respond to shit, unlike the based ''dad''

>>17043754
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485138115656228864
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)

>>17043241
I suppose it could’ve been bigger, but the way it ended up was certainly not. Venti should stick to vids on people like shoeonhead, those were quality.

>>17043751
Agree

>>17043754
I can't leave drank alone
It got me feening
Feeling like a boss
While I'm flippin' through my hood

>>17043822
Yeah, but what did she DO when drunk?

So, if I'm getting this right, Calli either got drunk or actually used lean, and said something on Twitter about a YouTuber? What exactly did she say? Does anyone have screenshots?

>>17044293
She praised fanart of her getting fucked by Connor from Trash taste. She was being sarcastic to "dab on the haters" but it backfired miserably.

>>17044176
me

>>17044176
Defend the TT retard who shittalked Hololive. While sober.

>>17042418
i would tolerate a cr1tikal collab because hes married and not a greasy fucking leech or e boy like the rest of these fags

Reminder that you guys are no different than the chinks who forced Coco to quit.
Congrats on becoming the bad guys.

>>17044293

>>17044446
Coco was a good streamer. That's the difference.

>>17044446
In order to cause changes, a few asteroids and fandom genocide is necessary. That is the sin we're willing to shoulder.

The absolute mad lad who kick-started it all. What an absolutely legendary bant.

>>17044446
Yes everyone shitting on Mori is doing the equivalent of spamming every twitter hashtag and chat for months over a word that appeared on a google analytics page shown on a stream they weren't supposed to see, good boy, you're very smart.

>>17044446
>Reminder that you guys are no different than the chinks who forced Coco to quit.
you're delusional. No one makes demands to make Mori quit. People just want her to shut the fuck up and stop being a full-blown retard.

>>17044452
Another anon pointed this out previously, but notice that the reply is five days later. She had potentially five whole days to think about this before deciding to respond and respond like this at that. Truly, she must have been on some good shit.

>>17044641
Too based.

>>17044641
This just pisses me off so much. I have spent thousands of dollars on Mori saying nice things to her, and none of the nice things I said got into her head as much as this one nasty fucking troll super. I wish I could change the way she thinks about this stuff but unfortunately I just have to accept that negativity lands better than positivity.

>>17042861
>this happened in a collab with Mori
Humu Humu

>>17044713
you didn't spend a dime, larper.

>>17044641
Really it is amazing though.
>Pays 250 dollars to rip into Mori for simping for a dude who insulted her and basically all of hololive.
>Sends her down a menhara spiral that would make Matsuri blush.
Bravo.

>>17044176
Give a positive review of some badly drawn artwork of her being fucked by Connor whilst deadcucks look on crying.

>>17044679
Perception of time gets a bit wonky when you go on a drug rampage, she'll be alright if she stops for a couple of days

>>17044641
Warushizen, Oppainaut and the /m/chad, the Destroyers of Death

Hopefully this teaches Japan not to hire wigger rap culture hangers on in the future. It'll help avoid chimp outs like this.

>>17044713
I mean that’s pretty much true of anybody in that position. There are countless ecelebs who have 99%+ positive responses but seethe over the few negative comments they receive. The only other alternative to having a negative comment be remembered is for an extremely schizophrenic comment to be remembered.

>>17027679
as much as I hate managers in general and cover specifically, jchad didn't deserve this

>>17044641
What kick-started it was a superchat that wasn't even all that negative and just asked her to be a bit quiet about her friendship with Connor because he said some negative things about Hololive talents. The condom money put it u[p a gear but it wasn't the start.

>>17044914
>>17044641

>>17044641
Reminder that this dude was actually a falseflagging deadbeat who thought that, somehow, this superchat would end this instead of spur it on further.

>>17044655
>No one makes demands to make Mori quit
Well that's just patently not true

>>17044914
>>17044958
imagine if Mori put half the effort, she puts into defending Connor, into defending her genmates from being harassed.

>>17044958
Last sentence in that sc is retarded. All she had to do was say thinks and that she spoke with Connor and everything is cool now.

No need for the 2 minute rant about everything that gave the antis more fuel

>>17043822
Wtf is she saying...? Does she think she's in Grove Street?

>>17044985
If so that is infinitely funnier and shows that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree in regards to vtubers and their fans.

>>17044990
Even on here, the vast majority of anons are just doing a little trolling. We just want to be entertained, is that not the point of a this all? A little entertainment.

>>17045088
You see, she listens to Eminem, she is basically black

>>17044958
>>17044641
>>17044452

>>17045088
She's method acting into becoming a real rapper

>>17044446
Coco loved streaming and vtubers and was working her ass off. Mori never cared.

Also in retrospect looks like Cover was wrong to bet on EN so much.

>>17045225
Yeah, she stole my bike.

>>17045207
There is no way she doesn't know what lean is like she said. I bet her manager had to get out of bed and smack her on the back of the head and tell her she can't say she drinks fucking lean on her official hololive Twitter account so she had to say it was just normal liquor

>>17045317
This. Same reason Gura had to delete her bath salt tweet. The difference is that Gura was obviously talking about taking a bath and Mori is actually a druggy.

>>17045280
They were wrong to bet on like... Two of them? Gura, Ina, and Kiara are fine talent. They have rough edges for sure, but they're pretty hard workers and draw in good crowds, besides Ina.

>>17045225
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4XUm8tN0RU

Supas got me sweating but the room is getting colder
Looking at the deadbeats and the antis on my shoulder
Will I stream tonight, I don't know, is it over?
Looking for my next yab, I'm looking for Connor

lean with me
rap with me
get high with me if you fap to me
smoke with me
drink with me
fucked up liver and some bad kidneys

>>17045365
Ame's inconsistent but she isn't actively damaging.

What gets her higher, Welsh men, Asian men or purple dank?

>>17045482
Trick question, it's dead cucks not wanting their Oshi to be a drunk retard. That gets her the highest.

Honestly, the one I feel the worst for in all this is J-Chad. Mori dug her own grave in responding to trolls, and leaning too far into method acting, but J-Chad will be the responsible for cleaning it up. The other EN girls may get some backsplash from this too, but J-Chad gets to majority of this dumped in her lap, just be being manager.

>>17046116
J-Chad was out sick, too. Possibly with the coof.
The one time J-Chad had to trust Mori to not need a tard wrangler, and Mori pulls out all the stops and hits the gas.

>>17046116
What clean up, all that's needed is
>stop Mori from tweeting for a few days
>get jannies to delete discussion of it in the spaces they control
>carry on as normal after people move on, get Mori to not mention it again

>>17036843
Kek was just going to post this

>>17046401
>get Mori to not mention it again
She's absolutely going to mention it again because she's a retard that can't stop responding to bait.

>>17046401
Ah yes, the japanese way, just ignore it ever happened and everything will be alright.

>>17043241
That was people outside the Hololive fandom though.

>>17027679
>tfw kariopeちゃん could have said the soft n-word and there wouldn't havw been this much of a shitstorm

>>17046472
Because cuckbeats saviourfags would fucking spam her next stream with SCs about "You sure owned those trolls, don't worry about that" and won't let it fucking die

>>17027679
please dont look at all those angry black people replies Jchad... you must rest...
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485152994119221248/retweets/with_comments (embed)

>>17043241
>Gura anihilated Brittany Venti's carreer by doing absolutely nothing (aside from bee-ing herself)
Never stops being funny.

>>17046477
Well in light entertainment that generally works. Trying to "clap back" or even "ashually what I meant was" and whatever else just inflates drama.

>>17029681
>>17043196
Have you never seen matsuri use her company account to spend on her oshi

>>17046681
>https://twitter.com/theneedledrop/status/1339424587386384386
kek fuck you Fantano

>>17046401
Upper management will likely never fully trust Mori again, meaning she'll be on an even tighter leash. Mori hates the little expectations already on her, J-Chad must know Mori's going to be even harder to deal with when she's back.

>>17027950
No way Ame is more like that.

Yall niggas gonna be trippin when my girl Mori comes out with a hot diss track called "New Age" and puts all yall muthafuckas in yall place, ya dig?

>>17046681
>one person saying mori is colonizing rap
>another saying white woman moment
>pic related
holy shit, this is hilarious
mori just jettisoned her "reputation" as a rapper

>>17046774
For all you know Matsuri asked permission and besides that's superchatting a big company like Nijisanji and not just a random person.

>>17046593
She could say nigger with hard, rolling R and no one would bat an eye, because everyone expects her to do it at some point.

>>17047037
She did that when she said she doesnt know who the RZA is.

>>17027679
>Be Mori Manager
Eww I would rather not touch her even with a stick. That dumbass causes too much problems.

>>17046593
If she said nigger this place would love her.

>>17045383
I would bump this

>>17047037
>>17047258
we need miyachi to hop in on this for the keks, hafu j-rapper who hates japan's rap scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RirdlLIfQiY
just mute the song and read the lyrics desu

>>17047140
Cope

>>17046774
Matsuri is pretty open about wanting to fuck/drink the piss of Hoshikawa.
"She's just doing the same" is pretty poor defense deadcuck.

>>17046116
>leaning too hard

>>17047037
>Tries to get the last word in to own the "trolls"
>Has to damage control multiple times through lies
>Gets called out like pic related
>Can't get the last word in anymore because that's adding more fuel
>tfw all this could have been avoided by ignoring it in the first place
My sides are leaving the solar system. Fortunately, there is likely to be more lolz to be had. No way Mori would give up on having the last word in.

>>17047150
Nigga is wiggerspeak, nigger is redneck speak. Mori larps as a redneck, but is decidedly a wigger.
>>17047372
Very true, she didn't even say it, just alluded to it, and threads erupted in applause. We are talking about a wider scope unfortunately.

>>17045225
PSA for all ya young and impressionable druggies: cough syrups can contain fuck you amounts of paracetamol.

>>17047878
As if druggies care about what they are taking in

>>17041209
>>17027724
>Absolutely sucks a marketing the Stars are doing terrible numbers
Shinove is a meme

>>17047258
>She did that when she said she doesnt know who the RZA is.
fucking WHAT? source?

>>17048173
Holostars, despite being funnier than live in my opinion, are fighting an uphill battle no matter what. They're not cute anime girls.

>>17048486
Right here, my nigga.

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1334017308809981953

>>17048486
https://youtu.be/tDAtnKh-cRc
https://youtu.be/-KIf0edawmI

>>17048844
Its clear she doesnt know who he is

this should be a more severe crime

>>17047992

>>17048844
Seems like she knows who he is.

>>17048830
holy shit

>>17042740
lmao imagine /m/ also gets a hate boner for them

>>17029406
>laughably minor issue
no. but she's ridden that storm through

>>17042418
yooo you can say what you want but ironmouse is wholesome the rest is wild

>>17049126
>they play shadowverse
game dropped.

>>17042861
She still managed to handle it well enough for non-ironic cucks to simp in her defense.

> my oshi will not collab with any male
> my oshi care about her fanbase
> my oshi care about idol culture
> my oshi isn't a whore
> my oshi truly love her fans
> my oshi will prioritize her fans over anything else
> i believe it

>>17047037
He’s not wrong, Mori uses a terribly fake wigger person to appeal to weebs who would normally hate rap

>>17042861
That's funny though.

no no
mori GAVE her the cancer

Pogfarts we got way too cucky

>>17050353

>>17048844
>"I love Wu Tang!"
>fucking calls RZA "R-Z-A"
what a fuckin poser. I hope this cunt graduates soon. Now I'm wondering if her retard ass actually didn't know what lean was, instead of lying about it

>>17046822
Oh hell naw

>>17044452
I'm still not over how tacky this was. it wasn't even funny enough to tweet, just mean spirited

>>17044641
based unicornchad I kneel

>>17043822
I'm pretty sure it wasn't actually lean retard. Outside of America it's actually quite hard to get your hands on cough syrup with DXM in it anyway.

>>17044452
Dude she must have been absolutely wasted out of her mind to sit there, type all that out and post it on her official fucking account. J Chad needs to take away that drunk retards social media privileges and have her send every fucking tweet to J Chad before posting it.

>>17052193
teeth not yellow

>>17042861
>People are still this mad at this mildest of takes
Holy shit were you desperate for some Ina dirt if that is what you latch at.

>>17049240
Honkychama...

>>17051918
Mori is autistic about acronyms. She always says V-O-D's instead of vods, for example.

>>17044452
>so butthurt that she replies to a cuck meme on her official account
hahahaha that's amazing. if I saw this without context I would assume it was an edit

>>17044774
wonky when you're off the wocky

>>17043754
>>17043822
She simped connor again, liked an anti picture on twitter that showed her cucking deadbeats, blamed it on lean, backpedaled saying it was alcohol, then the next day liked a tweet with a black'd ad.

>>17042861
>>17052826
Where can I find it

>>17046593
Kiara actually did sing a soft n and it was the biggest nothingburger. Not even pronoun twitter did anything about it.

>>17055404
kiara is the black man's holo

>>17037329
Context for amegeddon pls

>>17054918
https://youtu.be/Y4_seXdGaJY?t=2900
This rrat has gone through the loop so many times that its apparent gone from "Ina makes fun of mori's haters" to "Ina calls all her fans virgin losers", and retards still eat it up

>>17044446
Coco did nothing wrong, loved hololive and the girls she worked with, making an effort to learn Japanese in order to be able to communicate with them and foster the warm friendships she has with them today.
Mori did none of the above, patently refuses to in fact. Hates being where and what she is and throws her own fans and coworkers, as that's all they are to her, under the bus in defence of the guy that gravely disrespected all of them.

Coco didn't defend the chinks and was the victim. Mori is a villain.

>>17027679
Guys you need to stop giving Calli so much attention. It's only going to help her in the end. >>17052840

>>17054918
Youtube:Ina Calls Out Her Fans and Has To Apologize In Her Next Stream

>>17042585
don’t listen to retards, what actually happened was that Connor (aka trash taste) shit talked HololiveEN talent on stream.

He has yet to publicly apologize and retract his statement btw

>>17029406
>pedo crusaders
>laughably minor
pun intended?

>>17057333
And Mori has yet to actually call him out on it. Not once have we heard what she explicitly thinks of welshmanlet's words, hence why belief in her tacit agreement of said sentiment will continue to fester.

>>17057832
mori said he apologized on discord. That's it.

>>17058083
If connor did nothing wrong, and what he said was "taken out of context" as the copebeats and TT fans keep repeating, for what did he have to apologize?
Why would she be getting an apology from him?
She's never actually addressed it.

>>17057832
she lied for him

>>17058319
people overlook that ironmouse shut that convo down immediately cuz she knew it was a shit take when the words left his mouth

>>17042418
The Forsen collab would be kino though

>>17058083
weirdly enough, she specifically clarified they 'each' got a 'personal' apology which is what makes it such a batshit lie. She could have just said "we handled it" and it would have died. The hyper-specificity of the lie when it was absolutely not needed is what's makes it so cringe.

>>17042418
>m*les
>once in a while
Opinion disregarded. Yagoo wasn’t a collab but a fucking interview with her boss.

>>17057832
She basically said that they had a long discussion about it and that he apologized in private.
The implication that Mori accepted the apology on behalf of all the girls.

>>17059043
Imma keep pointing out that she's never said what warranted an apology in the first place. Does she herself consider it self evident that there was cause for apology? Seems so.
Shame copebeats and unironic fans of anitubers who keep defending connnor won't see this.

>>17059448
>personally apologized
>by proxy

>>17058695
She looked like Mike Myers during his Katrina relief collab with Kanye

>>17057333
When you say shit talked it's like they did a massive dump on holofags.
Which is overly exaggeration.
From my pov this is just a massive containment breached schizo posting.

>>17059448
An implication you've posited on things, contrary to her actual words which were very clear and explicit: Personally. To all of them. None of this "through me" bs. Personally doen't mean a relayed message. It means personally. Who ever relayed a message "personally" through someone else? Makes no sense.

>>17057832
Did the fucking britbong said anything wrong though?

J-Chad no look away pay no attention to those filthy kokujin

>>17059904
Wrong? No

But that's a definite PR nightmare to mention Hololive in that context when you're friends and collab with some of their members. Especially if you can't stop tripping over your own word salad as your poorly make your argument.

>>17059043
The second she started repeating THANKS, SO THANKS and getting heated I got worried but when she emphasized "personal" apology I just realized shit was gonna go down hill from there

>>17043278
[here comes char intensifies]

>>17059635
His words were pretty clear anon: to join hololive you need zero talent. The natural implication from this is that hololivers don't have talent, the staff are morons for hiring them and the fans are fools for supporting the talentless. He reiterated this in his stream with Mouse after the first shitstorm.

she was right all along kek

>>17059904
Do you believe that hololive vtubers are talentless? Yes or no? Answer this to answer your own question.

>>17027679
Hololive would've been nothing without drama, and since the old dramas have died down after Coco's graduation, they have become nothing. They are so boring. Why would anyone want to watch an unfunny 30+ year old woman pretending to be a cartoon characters while playing video games for hours? This is not entertaining in the slightest. We only put up with it because we were waiting for the climax of the drama. We got that climax when Coco graduated. The only reason that the stream got so popular is because it was the climax. We were all wating for the previous drama to end, but after that, there was nothing to look forward to. The drama was over, and essentially Hololive was over.

Now because of Calli, the exiting drama has a sequel. The difference is that this time it will be about incels of /vt/ vs normies of youtube/twitter. I expect this will drive up Calliope's popularity as normies come to her resque. The more /vt/ reacts negatively to it, the stronger the drama will get, the more normies will try to save her, and the more popular she'll become. This drama will continue until it ends in either a climatic way (Calliope graduates) or an anticlimatic way (incels give up and normies gradually stop caring). Either way, this drama is good business for Hololive, and you can expect Cover to milk it.

>>17060278
i mean they did hire sana...

>>17060100
Yes, wrong as in factually wrong. He was factually incorrect as to what the playboy listing entailed and then used that to say nene of all people was manipulative. He was wrong, the boring provable type of wrong

>>17060357
I'm talking about the "talentless hololive" stuff.

You are correct in what you're posting though. I thought it was specifically about what was in the sc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy0jqr6KY9Q

>17060336
cuckbeat one of your buttbudies has already linked your faggy falseflag attempt pasta
it's transparent and it won't stop anything
no (you) for you faggot

>>17060336
>incels
>normies
you have to go back

>>17027679
I want to FUCK that manager!

>>17060186
Reminds me of the hit them up edit shitting on holohouse kek.

I honestly wouldn't care if mori sincerely apologised, but she is one of those types of people who double down at slightest hint of perceived real or imagined malice

>>17060357
That's joey, the hafu pedo, not conmor, the balding mini welshman. fags are ultimately so easily confused though
>>17060354
does one dud mean that all 40+ other ones are trash?
sana still needed to pass the audition, so someone saw something in her even if she hasn't seemingly performed up to the standard they expected of her
which goes right back to the asshole's comment about "just lie on the audition bro it's easy all the holos must've done it!"

>>17060136
Isn't it why we call those who defend hololive chubas holofags? I'm confused because every holochuba is successful on their own way and it's because of hololive....

>>17060877
You're going to be right. I hate that Mori's bullshit will now unjustly affect all the other girls, her genmates most acutely of course. How fucking selfish can she be? Oh yeah, forgot, she doesn't actually give a shit, she only makes effort for TT faggots.

>>17044452
Wait, this is what you faggots are all upset about?

>>17060354
>i mean they did hire sana...
Sana is a better artist than Ina, it's a shame she refuses to capitalize on it.

>>17061204
The guy was saying that you can be nothing, have no skill in anything at all - literally be some hoe off the street, all you do is simply lie on the "audition form" or however he retardedly put it, and the branding of Hololive will autocomplete the rest, no effort required on your part.
You may think that's true. I don't so I don't agree with him and see it as others have: an insult.

>>17061337
The only people upset about that are cuckbeat redditors as they were the ones to call her out on it. Hereabouts it's generally seen as hilarious.

>>17044452
Why is KFP like this?

>>17060961
Watch the full video retard, he is literally talking about stuff such as "do you enjoy working" and other typical bullshit you see on typical application forms. Nobody is gonna write "my true dream is really to work with/as x, y, z" or say "actually I'm really shit at x, y, z"
That is what the talk was about, nowhere did he say it was specific to Hololive, the argument he was trying to make, poorly, was that EVERYONE lied about this stuff on job applications, then stumbled over his words as he tried using Hololive as an example because of Mouse never having worked outside the entertainment industry as she kept saying.

Guy is cringe a lot of the time but this was simply him trying to convey the fact a lot of people do this shit and then hope for the best, that he himself have done it and he believed everyone does it because once you land the job you can either work on your flaws or hope to hide them.

Can't believe I'm forced to defend this dude.

All these retards saying she'll get fired for mentioning lean make me lol. Management isn't going to do shit about it. Unless it involves the big 3 (marijuana, opium, cocaine), Japanese don't care. They already abuse overcounter drugs like crazy. Meth was even invented in Tokyo. Yeah, Japan's drug culture is really weird, but that's just the way it is.

>>17058931
it would be fucking retarded but yes

>>17042585
>peeps

kill yourself

>>17061653
He's an infamous everything-anti. They just adopted the guise of a chickenfag because, up till now, it generated optimum seethe. Pretty sure they'll be using deadbeat for the foreseeable.

>>17061491
To a point it's true though. They can put an autist, a retard, a neet, or menhera yet they will still be a part of hololive brand that will be successful. You can't refute that

>>17047037
How do none of these niggers realise that she's using her 'canon' lore background here? Yeah, it's 'new-age' because she's supposed to be like a billion years old.

These random twitter niggers unironically need to do their lore reps.

>>17061729
Why is anything you typed out true for hololive and not true for any other hiring company or earth?

>>17043241
my dumbass thought this was related to genshin impact

>>17061734
People keep saying this but the only high profile OD was Tokana-X like a decade ago wasn't it? I mean the days of Tashiro Masashi being the most hated man in nippon for drugs was two decades ago. Who are the high profile druggie? Who the hell has even Od'ed besides a single J Rapper that made the news

>>17061729
you fags keep pushing this but his words stand alone with or without muh context full clip and they specifically target hololive
he never alologized, at the moment it even looks like mori lied about that
and in a followup with mouse he just said the same thing, in the same way
no fumbling over words then
he knew precisely what he was saying and he even had the chance to try to make himself better heard
nope, doubled down

>>17061204
It's not a one-way street. Each success builds up the name which in turn means you have expectations to meet to continue building on said name.
It's part of the reason why council gets criticism /here/, in that, compared to holox and myth debuts, they've coasted (relatively) instead of working hard early to establish themselves.
That's why connor's a dumbass, because he wanted to make a hottake opinion that disregarded nuance.

>>17061729
So you're saying he did nothing wrong?
If so, why did he feel the need, apparently, to apoligise to Mori and "personally" apologise to all the EN girls if he did nothing?
You don't apolgise when you're innocent.

>>17033422
rrat, J-chad is pregnant

>>17062080
I'll agree on that he's fucking stupid enough to say that but he already apologised. Meh whatever schizos are gonna do whatever they want. Not you of course

>>17061491
it‘s kinda true. just look at Cali

>>17044446
Don't you dare to compare Coco with that junkie

>>17061817
I can refute that because it hasn't actually happend yet. Even LET'SGOOO Sana has talent and skill, even if most refuse to aknowledge it. It's there. A prime menhera, Aloe, had talent but she never got the chance to really showcase it.

>>17062347
This is the funniest part. Mori defends Connor fiercely and will literally die on that hill, all without realizing she's one of the "talentless" people he means kek. She's so retarded.

>>17062308
and its connors

>>17057087
> she didn't defend chink
> she also loves chinks fan

>>17062313
Half the board is just looking to dunk on deadbeats for the lulz, others are shitstirring for (you)s and whatnot.
If you mean he apologized in private, eh, private apologizes for public gaffes always comes across as a tad disingenuous, but I'm not the one wronged. Really wished Mori would've not been such a complete dumbass about this 'cause now this shit is gonna linger and hang over the rest of the HoloEN girls for the next bit.

>>17059043
>weirdly enough, she specifically clarified they 'each' got a 'personal' apology which is what makes it such a batshit lie.
The instant she said that it stopped being funny and contained. Now the rest of HoloMyth is going to be/already are spammed by shitposters and dramafags asking if Connor personally apologized to them. Mori dragged her coworkers not involved into her personal business.

It's kinda funny how much more hate connor gets compared to nux who some people worship on this board for some reason

>>17062313
>but he already apologised.
Really? Where?
Being disrespectful in public surely warrants a public apology surely?
No? Do you belive Mori when she says the en girls were apolgized to *personally* despite evidence to the contrary?

>>17061491
no wonder Connor said that. the only homomem he knows so well is Cali

>>17062606

>>17062477
I can't get that when you say "no talent" when everybody is different in their own way. I don't think that there's someone that has no talent.. none that I have known for anyway.

>>17043026
she's stalking you

>>17060739
link to that?

>>17062485
and after the divorce she'll cry "you ruined my life". many such cases

>>17061729
>EVERYONE lied about this stuff on job applications
Projection, I never lied on my job application and I got in

>>17062753
>>/jp/thread/S25585025#p25585075
I'm surprised I found it so quickly.

>>17062648
Nux was linked to a vshojo affair that comparatively fewer people gave a shit about because fewer anons give a shit about that agency compard with Hololive or even Nijisanji. He also didn't directly call people talentless hacks like conner has. That whole thing was messy and unclear. With connor and joey and now mori, it's clear.

>>17062708
There are anon. The greymen that you never notice. They do the in-between jobs you take for granted. Boring people.

Somebody get the Chinese in here to wrap this up. Tell them "lean" is an American slang term for "The Chinese Navy is weak and the USA will easily free Taiwan" that should do it.

>>17062670
Is this why he's been living rent free on most of the schizos here?

>>17060278
>Do you believe that hololive vtubers are talentless?
Yes.

>>17062708
You put 9/10 people in front of a webcam feed to a live audience and they'll sit there like a sack of shit. Not everyone is a Pewdiepie or xqc.
The vast majority of people out there are boring as fuck and are not suited to be entertainers. Hence "talentless".

The funny shit about the whole thing is that the retards on twitter who have no idea whats going on while making a take are pretty much shitting on Mori's fanbase for being unicorns.

>>17041276
I would argue that's different because they understood one another (not personally) and they know how the culture works there in Japan and how to appease everyone
While in the west, let's face there's a reason we're called loud and annoying

>>17062708
>when everybody is different in their own way
This doesn't mean they have any particular talent. There are a bunch of mediocre people out there with nothing in particular going for them. People just silently ignore that kind of people and forget about them.

>>17045017
She doesn't get SCs shitting on her genmates iirc

>>17042700
She's a stressed workaholic that got drunk and made a poor decision. It doesn't get deeper than that, anon. This will be forgotten in the next couple of days.

>>17064325
>Ignoring the fact that she was suspended for 2 weeks.

>>17044655
Mate, I wish you were right about this.

>>17064070
She got one that called one of her genmates an escort, so she said she was going to donate the money to ironmouse.

>>17027859
>>17028013
>>17029406
>>17035306
>>17042797
>>17042861
>>17043241
You fucking retarded Neanderthals
If the Japanese don't fucking talk about it, then it's not that big
Wanna know the biggest? THE FUCKING TAIWAN B.S
That shit got even some news, so don't give me that shit that ina insulting her fanbase or mori doing whatever the fuck that mess was about it, is the biggest yab or drama in hololive

>>17045280
TTRPG, the hour-long endurance streams, performing for HoloAlt, working so hard to where she is that senpais, genmates and kouhais say they're inspired by her.

Yeah, Mori never cared.

>>17064325
>he actually thinks this will be forgotten in the next couple of days
NGMI. Shitposts will lessen with time as with all things but this will never be forgotten, anon.

>>17064635
>>17064643
>inb4 "cuckbeat"

>>17062648
who the fuck is nux?

>>17064737
The Roman God of night

>>17042861
you think ina's mediocre bantz that she immediately apologized for /anyway/ (even though she didn't fucking need to, because it was nothing)
is BIGGER than mori shitting herself over a troll, then publicly admitting to drug use, then backpedalling trying to act she's just faking being in the scene and doesn't know what words mean?

>>17064635
>biggest shitfest that """HoloEN's""" had to deal with
Learn to fucking read, nigger.

>>17064567
To be fair, fans call their oishi escorts all the time. They constantly ask for GFE.

>>17063225
it’s not a schizo take to want a public apology and a statement where he retracts the comment he made publicly. Where he must state on public record that he was incorrect that Hololive vtubers do not have talent

>>17061207
Literally how will this affect her genmates?

>>17037329
Mumeigeddon was worse
Amegeddon wasn't even that bad outside of this containment hellhole

>>17062648
the only person on this board worshipping n*x is the leechfaggot himself

>>17064635
>THE FUCKING TAIWAN B.S
holoEN, retard, EN.

>>17055724
no fuck you newfag, go away

>>17065081
Wtf how did I miss mumeigeddon is this a larp

>>17049126
I hate Ironleech so fucking much

>>17064399
You mean the "no schedules" thing she announced in a stream well before this happened? That's not a suspension, retardchama.

>>17046116
>leaning
kek

>>17064635
>If the Japanese don't fucking talk about it, then it's not that big
Some anon already posted the reactions
They thought it was a boyfriend yabai but after someone made a timeline of the events the concensus was that indeed Mori was stupid. The drug thing it has divided opinions, some hope it was just a missuse of the words others are not surprised that she do drugs.
Overall, for japanese people, boyfriend yabai is worse than drugs an acting stupid so they already moved on but with a different image of Mori.

>>17065080
Oh don't worry, the dramaniggers on here will do everything they can to make sure it affects them, blame Mori for something THEY did, and then repeat that tired lie that /vt/ is just a small totally powerless board that can't affect vtubers at all.

I honestly hate the persona that the fans placed on the EN managers with JChad and shit, like no they are most likely just some zoomer weebs.

>>17065424
>others are not surprised that she do drugs

>>17065424
>so they already moved on but with a different image of Mori.
They finally realized she's a cute baka instead of kakkoi?

>>17049126
>Iron Mouse is acting more like Connor this pasts weeks

>>17065081
>wasn't even that bad outside of this containment hellhole
Sounds a lot like the Mori yab to me, anon.

>>17065424
You forgot some are actually believing the rrat about she and Connor dating.
But overall yeah, they believe the way she handled the trolls is stupid, the way she is siding with someone who insulted her job is stupid but is not a concrete boyfriend yabai so they moved on.

>>17066192
>dating

Anonchama have you ever ventured into the real world? Do you know what happens when a girl goes over to a guy's house and gets drunk?

>>17064325
ina's nothingburger still lives on, almost overtaking every fucking thread where it gets mentioned

Unless mori publicly cuts all ties with TT/connor (and it's extremely unlikely given TT are likely the kind of friends she made after her old friends hated her vtuber success), this yab will live until she graduates.

fuck, it'll continue even after she graduates, if artia and coco are anything to go by.

>>17043131
honestly i never really cared that much about this Mori yab bullshit until right now. Retweeting domo is fucking unacceptable. Graduate that whore immediately

>>17065950
Women usually pick up habits and opinions of the man they like.

>>17066398
You definitively sound like you don't
First of all when did going to his house drunk ever appeared? Even the dude who reposts the timeline doesn't have that
Second of all while yes connor is cunt who doesn't know jack shit, he's hardly the frat boy type that'll fuck any girl that he hangs around with, unless you admit you're an unironic incel who thinks they're fucking as we speak

And no, calling me cuckbeat won't prove you right, it just means you're deflecting just because I'm adding "logic"

>>17066515
Probably why it was not a good idea to do this, whether you're a fan or not

Honestly should ask for help to not only her genmates but her senpais

>>17067470
Seething cuckbeat

>>17066398

>Do you know what happens when a girl goes over to a guy's house and gets drunk?

She gets told to eat a bowl of eggs and not say anything?

>nothingburger
God I hope that /jp/ anon who said he was sending a complaint straight to Cover, with a detailed explanation of what lean is, was actually meme-ing.

>>17027679
Mori was a real Karen all along

>>17044713
I had an artist EX who was like that. She was damn good too, and got shitloads of praise, but would always let the one or two negative comments kill her mood. Was a damn headache to deal with

>>17065250
Dude, where you even here during her debut? Ffs where do you thing the Luthor memes come from?

>>17071283
>the Luthor memes
She ate 40 cakes during her debut?