/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>17021993
Mori is so interesting I wonder what she is thinking right now, I wonder why she hasn't graduated yet.

>list of crimes
>no mention of collabing with vshojo

She's cute on stream and I like her music.

The only issue I have with her is she's so blatant about using vtubing to further how own desires, not as a passion or wanting to do vtubing itself. If eating shit meant she would become popular, she would have went that route instead and used that to force her way into interacting with her favorite youtubers.

>>17021993
The sad thing is that this list isn't even exhaustive of all the evidence that shows Mori doesn't give the slightest fuck about Hololive. Her complete lack of effort and passion for streaming, flat out admitting she didn't enjoy streaming until she could zone out to Jump King autism, ignoring the JP branch entirely while trying to saviorfag fucking Nijis...

https://streamable.com/9cbgcr
https://streamable.com/t2985s

>>17021993
Poor deadbeats......

>>17021993
Why should she care about Ame and Kiara? They're not worth caring about.

>>17022486
sad but based, there are tons of holos just as autistic that'll treat you better

If you put this much effort into getting a girlfriend, hours and hours and hours, you still wouldn't get one because you have a shrimp dick and a flat face UwU

>>17022535

>>17021993
https://youtu.be/SqNm4CnCqws?t=28828
She will drag your oshi to collab with ecelebs!

>>17022190
Money

>>17021993
This is something a lot of deadbeats aren’t seeing. The Connor shit is just an easy drama gossip target, but it’s this gradual buildup of shit things she’s done that has made everyone finally pop. The biggest issue people have with Mori is her contempt for Hololive and the medium. If this was a Council it wouldn’t be an issue because they’re irrelevant, but Mori is at the top, fully exploiting the platform whilst insulting it. I don’t even think Mori knows what she wants anymore, all she knows is what she doesn’t want.

>>17022593
Hey mori

>>17022593
nono you're supposed to talk about how OP is wrong not call him names and act like a fucking retard
start over

>>17022486
whats the "MilkyQueen"?

>>17022486
Link?

>>17022734
She wants to shit all over everything Hololive is and what her senapis built it up as, while still profiting off all the exposure it gives her work. Thats the sum of it.

>>17022822
Kronii kek

Deadbeats are at fault for supporting such a bitch,
Should had made her graduate early.

>>17022734
>>17022920
>>17022914
Damn, you guys HATE her for real lmao

She is probably the only holo where the "hates hololive" meme unironically applies. People like Kronii have admitted to hate streaming, but I never got the impression that she doesn't like being in there or doesn't like the culture.

Mori genuinely feels uncomfortable as fuck in her role. She hates idolshit, she hates LARPing as an anime girl, and she HATES HATES HATES has having to. interact with the female gender.

I FUCKING WISH i had a clip of where Mori straight up admitted she felt so umcomfortable in her role at the start that she wanted to just phone it in with the minimum effort while collecting a paycheck. I can't believe nobody clipped this. Of course she also said "muh deadbeats made me decide i have to take it seriously" etc but this is her true opinion, she doesn't like what she's doing. I do believe she tried to be more enthusiastic about it, but you can't force yourself to like something.

The reason this is a problem though is because Mori's solution to this problem was to change the job into something she enjoys more, drag HER culture into it.

So did she do lean or is she just dumb and alcoholic?

>>17023007
You've summarised why I hate her pretty well. I wish she just did what Subaru did and immersed herself in the culture. Instead she tried to straddle the line and get into her favorite Twitch clique while still being in Hololive.

>>17021993
>by singing his songs
He has songs?

>>17022822
Mori's chuuba "friend" who she has repeatedly cucked. https://youtu.be/aWWhjisKKlA

>>17023007
So pic related but with reverse gender ?

>>17023106
I really, really doubt she drank lean. I'm willing to take what she said about not knowing what the word actually meant at face value given how she thought that someone telling her that her "booty stank got me trippin" meant that she had a cute butt and not that she smelled like ass

Im dumb and forgot pic

>>17022868
Just look at the recent comments of her most recent video

>>17023176
https://youtu.be/0I6LJIQeN50
https://youtu.be/4SiiRx7GDzI
Hello, hi, I'm a 2019 guy
I don't need drugs to get high
I have Onions and wine
I respect girls by getting friend zoned and denied
I think about them and cry
I am totally fine
Testosterone's low, feelings high
That's how you know I'm truly 2019 Guy
My dick's not big, my girlfriend fucked my friend
You say I'm down on my luck, I say it's a win-win
'Cause I'm a cuck
And I hope he fucks her good
In a way, I wish I could
I just want to WATCH!
Hello, hi, I'm a 2019 guy
I think science is a lie
I am offended online
I'm fragile and shy
I don't really go outside
I don't have friends that's why I am offended all the time
2019
2019
2019
My dick's not big, my girlfriend fucked my friend
You say I'm down on my luck, I say it's a win-win
'Cause I'm a cuck
And I hope he fucks her good
In a way, I wish I could
His dick's not big, so I fucked his friend
I say he's down on his luck, he says it's a win-win
'Cause I'm a cuck
And I hope he fucks her good
In a way, I wish I could
I just want to WATCH!
2019
2019
2019

>>17022997
She hates (You) for real. That's the point everyone is trying to make.

>>17021993
Now let's talk about kiara's

>>17023176
She sing his song 2019 guys which unironically a cuck song

>>17023271
Why is there no soundpost with Moris version of the song and her chuck Tweet?

>>17023183
oh i follow her on twitch. she seems pretty cool i like the little jumps her model makes on her streams sometimes

>>17022486
poor Milky wishes Mori would suck her dick just a tenth as hard as the Ecelebs that brapper can't stop sucking up to

>>17023271
Why is she like this

>>17023271
kek

>>17023007
When did kronii say that she hated streaming?

>>17023489
>Milky applied to hololive
>cucked by Mori
>has a crush on Connor
>cucked by Mori
>still friends with Mori
Being Milky is suffering...

can I get a quick rundown?

>>17023284
I don't want to downplay Kiara, but her problems are mostly
>Voice is irritating
>Narcissist
>No filter on what she says/ swears too much

>>17023252
Mori is such a masochist that it's not funny and causes problems. She'll never forget the cartoon that /m/fag edited, never forget booty stank guy, etc. Treating her poorly is the way into her head and heart. For her, someone shitting on Hololive (and by extension her) is a feature, not a bug. Her thriving on negative feedback probably got her this far, but it's a double edged sword.

>>17023753
>She'll never forget the cartoon that /m/fag edited, never forget booty stank guy, etc
can I get a rundown this shit seems spicy

Prophetic cuckpost

>>17023556
She said the reason she plays minecraft off-stream on the EN server is basically "i just wanna play video games in peace, having to interact with chat is distracting/ruins my fun"

Thinking she has the right to just take entire days off just to play video games is already fucking ridiculous, but the react that she admitted she can't enjoy it if she also has to stream is pretty yab

>>17023284
>>17023719
At least anything that could be said about orange woman it's just about her, with no outside involvement (outside of old rommate shit that has no relevance with how she has acted since joining Holo). Not only that, but she tries to uphold the idea of what an idol is.
In retrospective, it's kinda hilarious that both of them were paired up at the start. Couldn't be any more different.

>>17023713
Just a wigga trying to act tough and regret it

>>17023713
on what? She reviewed some cuckold comic involving her and Connor and deadbeat crying, saying she is all for it. Then she went on to cry about it on reddit when people shat on her, people shat on her there too so she apologised on twitter but accidentaly confessed to drug use

>>17023955
that's pretty common for streamers in my experience
having to divide your attention between the game and being an entertainer is hard, because they require completely separate skillsets

Lets face it. More is more comfortable around men than women and wants wants to be buddies with famous ones.

>>17022593
Mori can't PR even when shitposting

>>17024033
Isnt that all woman ?

>>17021993
This. A lot of deadbraps are coping and pretending like this is a one time disaster but Mori’s always been like this, a magnet to controversy mostly created by her own lying and attention seeking behavior. Honestly though, I can live with her being a bad entertainer - it’s not like she’s the only one - but Mori is just a straight up bad person behind the mask too. What she did to Kiara is unforgivable IMO. That woman’s an angel for being willing to still work with Mori, let alone not get her graduated. Hopefully this incident will change things for good.

>>17023955
>i just wanna play video games in peace, having to interact with chat is distracting/ruins my fun
Yeah no shit, streaming is work. If you want to relax you play games off stream.

>>17024074
Pretty much. The way she treated Kiara is so gross. That’s not how you act towards a “friend”, ever. She honestly deserved to be graduated a long time ago.

>>17023284
Orange woman loves Hololive though

>>17024074
What happened with Kiara?

>>17023284
I started out as an anti but orange woman seems to be getting more and more based as time goes on... pink boobs on the other hand is only hjholding on because 70% of deadbeats have a closeted cuck fetish, the other 30% being open about it

>>17024259
Not putting in any effort to the Takamori bit that they both agreed on before debut
Lying to her face about listening to a cover that didn't exist
generally just being a shitty person

>>17023955
thats her autism/introvertedness talking, there are a lot of streamers that dont like the part where they have to talk to chat because they're worried they wont be able to focus on the game and end up doing poorly

>>17022464
She pretty much said she auditioned on a whim and didn't really care for it all thst much. All in all, I do think she cares about Hololive a great deal more than she did a year ago.

>>17023263
Why are gatekeeper schizos like this?

>>17023281
Not a cuckbeat lol

>>17021993
It is insane how she not only has harmed her own reputation but, how much shes thrown her gen mates under the bus for some shitty podcaster who will drop her once she even mentions graduating.

Calli has tried since day 1 to be the anti Vtuber who goes against the grain and shows how Vtubing and Idol shit can be more, what shes accomplished is nothing but showing how much of an asshole she is to not only the people she claims to love and be friends with but also showing how little she cares about the people who put her there in the first place, her cuckbraps.

Worst part is the fact that she does not hide it, and most people know that and its baffling to me, I know love for ones oshi goes deep, but this is legit lunacy.

The woman can barely give a shit to say happy birthday to her own genmate let alone anyone around them, shit look at Cocos collab with her, yeah you can pretend to cope and say "that was the point", but its obvious to anyone whos interreacted with real human beings that she not only did not give a shit, she fully checked out.

tl;dr she wanted to be the antichrist of Vtubing but she just turned out to be a 3th rate idol with a 4th rate rap career

>>17024444
You don't watch vtubers? Then why are you here?

>>17024513
>some shitty podcaster who will drop her once she even mentions graduating.
imagine her reaction when she realizes she tanked a lucrative and easy career for nothing
she'd die of alcohol poisoning in a week

>>17022593
Why are you outside of your cover moderated general tho? You cant handle this, get back. Now.

>>17024618
To watch the fire rise

>>17022486
Sad but based

>>17024513
Why is there such a pervasive rrat about him dropping her like a rock if she leaves? By all accounts I've seen he's a terrific "friend" to Mouse. And you don't get to be in a successful streaming group like TT by burning bridges arbitrarily. She's still going to be a name in the industry, even if a much smaller one. Repurposing an ex-hololive girl into his streaming circle, or even pushing her into Vshojo would be major.
I don't follow him well enough to know if there are any claims about him being a terrible person because what evidence I've seen hints to the contrary.

orange woman... good?

>>17024796
Perhaps you treated her too harshly, come home deadbeats become KFP.

>>17023263
This picture doesn't make sense because you had no part in the creation of this hobby, and by its logic you got in at step 4.

>>17023955
To me this can be the most forgivable thing, chat during some games especially minecraft is just fucking aids and detracts from the experience

>>17023688
>Milky applied to hololive
No she didn't idiot, she was already with a company and not planning on leaving the other two behind.

>>17024796

>openly wants to collab with males
>has already done vshojo collabs
>leeches off any barely viral meme
>forces "le bottom left" schtick to have appeal
>plays terrible games terribly
>has serious importance in being a translator, but always has technical issues so the product is worse

All that, and that's not even mentioning how hideous her model and roommate are. Orange woman bad. Always was, always will be.

>>17024758
He gets up to some averagely scummy shilling and to my knowledge was the least well known of the TT before they became TT which leads itself to the leach mentality. But I’ve seen little to no evidence of him being a personally awful person

>>17025146
https://youtu.be/7iP4jc4wclA

Listen to the song again she absolutely did

>>17024758
Connor is only friends with Mousey because she is successful. Go look at his vids, he doesn’t even put her name in the titles or show her in the thumbnails normally, it’s always “with a Vtuber” and a silhouette. He’s the glowing definition of a leech. He clearly wants some holo to fight with their manager to get him an “in” for collabs and it almost worked with Ollie.

>>17025328
Whatever happened with Ollie. Did he flat out just stop talking to her?

>>17022190
she wont graduate im calling it
shes going to be canned unceremoniously
screenshot this

Why is reddit like this?

>>17024618
What the fuck are you on about? Who said I don't? I am laughing at the trainwreck and pointed out your seemingly unironic, real rage at Mori.

>>17025328
Would that not imply the opposite, would he not be putting iron mouse front and centre if he wanted to leach hard?

>>17021993
>obsessively tries to make a Cr1tikal collab happen a few months into debut, before interacting with any JP member in any way
You don't actually care about this. You're just mad because she spent Deadbeats' money on Connor and she """"""""""hangs out"""""""""""" with him irl (we all know what that entails).
>throws a fucking tantrum when Cover shoots her down, trying to make pseudo-collabs by singing his songs and leaving in his voice to make a duet, and vowing to make a collab happen someday somehow
And yet you don't actually care about this, you're just mad she likes Connor more than Hololive and more than you. And she's allowed to like whoever she wants.
>goes on TT just so she can interact with more 3D males
Because Connor is good looking and has the balls and clout to attract her.
>after completely blundering Coco and Gura collabs, she "suddenly", "coincidentally" brings her absolute A+ game to a Gigguk collab
I'm pretty sure she's on good terms with Coco since they did a meme review together, that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
>Forgets Ame's birthday TWICE, almost overlaps with Kiara's birthday and moves her stream at the last second, also doesn't bother congratulating Pekora on Twitter, BUT "coincidentally" finds the time to congratulate some literalwho NijiEN because he's male
NOOOOOO SHE LIKES A NIJI MAN1! AND HATES HOLOLIVE! 5 PERCENT!
Cope. She's in this for easy money and she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen. She earns more than even Kiara and has infinitely more gachikoi than broke ass poorfag Teamates and Chumbuds who never drop money on their oshis. Mori won.

>>17025366

Ollie fell off. Look at her recent streams. She's pandering so fucking hard to get attention from clippers and other holos. I don't like her at all, but that Minecraft ID server really fucked their viewership in the ass.

>>17025406
>and she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen.

lmfao, you forgetting about someone else by any chance?

>>17025393
Based af

>>17025406
>she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen
fuʰᵃʰᵃʰᵃ oh siwwy anon :3

>>17025403
I was told it was an algorithm thing and it hurts his growth to actually promote and support his "friend." Also all of Mouse's viewers know him and generally know who the "a Vtuber" is, so I guess it doesn't really bother them.

I mean look at this shit.

>>17025466
Guy must be afraid of sharks.

>>17025406
>she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen.

>>17025551
Rumao they all look clickbait

>>17025403
If you put vtuber with no name you can bait that it’s anyone even holos, that’s eceleb leeching 101

She's got her eyes on some new British Meat now boys

>>17025551
I will take back the doesn't put her in the thumbnail bit to not be a liar. Still the most disgusting pic I have

>>17025551
I’m not gonna pretend to understand YouTube’s systems they always have been and always will be a fucking abomination , but I would have assumed that he did it that way to not make searches for ironmouse filled with his content and keep them going to her YouTube’s etc

>satancubes posts new pic
>dyed her hair again and looks zoned the fuck out
Oh nyoooo, she's actually hitting the lean condombeats.
hope conner holds her hair when she pukes at least, he owes her at this point

>>17024395
Becoming a streamer if you don't like to stream is retarded

>>17025759
>woman

>>17025406
man i found the critikal shit cringe, because he and most e-celeb moralfags are hypocritical, low-hanging-fruit entertainment charlatans.
TT stuff is the same cringe and to add - you're actively trying to move out of your own circles,
and the severity only becomes more the more importance you place on vtubing culture

ame birthday wtv, it only points to a deeper issue of yes she probably cares less about the company and the culture other than her trash music career - apparantly the retard still makes content on her roommate's account

>>17025759

She's stated multiple times that she only cares about her music (which is abysmal) so none of this is any sort of surprise. She's making connections, but let's hope anyone takes any of her terrible music seriously when it's not sung by a pretty anime girl.

Kson had the benefit of being in the game long before Hololive, and had her entire fanbase follow her transition. No chance pink whore gets the same fortune.

>>17025913
>critikal

I know people can say the same about vtubers, but what in the fuck is the appeal of that guy? Some homeless looking guy sitting in an apartment with a dog and a webcam from 2009 just moderately reacting to other youtube videos. I don't understand.

>>17025466
>>17025543
>>17025617
Mori is the one that has more loyal paypigging gachikoi and has had a #1 album on global charts. The only ones more successful than Mori are the very tiny 1% of vtubers who are actual big money draws like Pekora, Rushia, Coco. Sharkgirl is memed a lot but she has a fanbase that refuses to give her money like the Goslings who obsess over Ame but Mori's earnings brutally mog hers. In the end, success if being liked enough for people to actually spend money on you. You may not like that Mori is in Connor's harem but you're denying reality if you say she's not the most successful EN.

>>17023688
Why do all these whores want to fuck the welshman? So he has a deep voice and runs a podcast, he's not that conventionally attractive. Holy shit I remember the olympian who got turned down on tindr by some 5/10 whore and then she was mad when she found out he was an olympian. Women are insane.

>>17025406
>lists a good number of reasons to hate her
>surprised people hate her

It's a pretty good bait post though, you should use this elsewhere too.

>>17021993
she's my favorite! she makes /vt/ seethe.
along with kiara and ollie.

>also doesn't bother congratulating Pekora on Twitter
also, fucking pekker doesn't even congratulate anyone. in fact, 80% of JP doesn't even care about overseas branch.
they don't have the right to get special treatment from overseas branch for that.

>>17025979
literally all you need is a deep voice and confidence while not being horribly ugly and you can fuck any woman you want

>>17026037

They don't openly congratulate other JP members regularly either. They follow Japanese business etiquette most of the time. Everything is more lax outside of the JP branch because there's no formal hierarchy. Which is why people make a big deal out of Mori not interacting with people in her branch but goes out of her way to talk to people who shouldn't matter

>>17022469
>https://streamable.com/9cbgcr
wow, sasuga reaper

>>17026039
Business idea: tindr, but men can leave a sample of their voice.

>>17025957
He used to be a pretty entertaining game commentator, only after getting a gf he drop all that, do a face reveal which he used to against and perform all these tiktok-tier shit

>>17026224
actually a good idea

>>17026224

You can already do this on Snap and Instagram

>>17024444
the only correct and based opinion rn, also very much checked

>>17025957
That's pretty much the majority of youtubers in general. If you can be occasionally witty and speak without stumbling over your words, you can enter the algorithm lottery and maybe hit the jackpot. Critikal just had the benefit of being around when the pool of aspirants was tiny.

>>17024402
1 is still greater than 0 I guess

>>17025393
NOOOOOOOOOOOO MY SCHIZO IS RUINED BECAUSE REDDIT AAAASSA SAVEEEEE MEEEEEEE FELLOW CHANNEELLER

>>17024385
Who was it that snapped and called whori a crack head? She probably does a reputation of using drugs to people in the circle.

>>17026037
>>17026140
Don't Holos congratulate each other often? I remember people even calling Kiara a leech whenever she would congratulate her senpai on anything and there was even a meme about YAGOO only being able to add more exclamation points whenever he congratulated anyone. I definitely remember a lot of congratulating happening

Take your meds

>>17023263
hololive fans and specifically unicornfags are the outsiders. this isnt your hobby

I don't know anything about japanese underground drug culture but this mindset that "nooo muh pure nips not infected by nigger culture don't know what lean is!" is retarded. Japan isn't some heaven land where nobody does drugs, I imagine stuff like mdma, coke, psychedelics etc are just more popular there than weed because it's harder to be caught if you pop pills in your apartment or at some party. The walls in the buildings are very thin so nobody smokes inside cause you would be instantly caught.

>>17026504

It's more often the last year, but before that there wasn't as much. And even if there is some interactions, it's just a tweet here or there. Kiara's entire faggot holotalk show is the ultimate leech that sickens me. She's just the worst, so who cares.

>>17026501
idk if that's what you mean but Coco asked Mori in their famously abysmal Meme Review collab if she's a crackhead, to rib her for being such a nonresponsive wet blanket (it was really one of Mori's worst appearances)

>>17026689

She's terrible at everything, but that meme review was unwatchable.

>joke image comes up
>ha ha ha ha ha wow yall are flippin crazeeeeee

I wish Coco had her gun

>>17025200
literally not even 1% as bad as what calliope did/is doing/will do
orange woman is a cringe autist retard who genuinely loves hololive and idolshit and puts in effort. mori is a cringe autist retard who hates hololive, idolshit and has yet to put in any effort (will most likely graduate once she feels she can't capitalize any more on the free clout that is joining hololive. there's a reason she was a nobody in her past life, and it's because her music sucks dick, she's genuinely nothing without the brand name)

>>17021993
Beautiful isn't it? Anything to make holobronies suffer and seethe.

>>17026689
Yeah that one

>>17026640
Nah there was definitely a lot of congratulating. For milestones, for beating games, etc. And not just on Twitter either, on streams too. So many instances of Holo going "congrats ___" for something, I guess the fans bringing up others in SC led to all that congratulating too.

>>17022868
https://youtu.be/1E66K-4G3o8

>>17022486
>literally 1 member commenting over every single members only video, garnering 1 like on the newest posts where regular members still lurk
Damn, that showed her. A single terminally braindead /vt/ ESL surely spells doom for Mori!

>>17026640
Mori's entire existance being a grift to shill her shitty wigger music makes her the biggest leech. Orange woman is just a Holo fan, and she's actually gotten better unlike Mori, leave her alone.

>>17026737

I think she loves Hololive, but her experience with idols left her unhappy because she expected to be famous after being scouted, but went literally nowhere with it and wasted her best years dancing at malls to no crowds. She's using Hololive as a way to boost her roommate's clout and to experience the success of an idol without ever getting it on her own merits. I think she's a pathetic leech with a horrific voice and hideous model.

Calli is worse, though.

>>17027045
Maybe I watched others too much but generally all hololive models are either horrible or horribly rigged. Like early 2000s flash animation bad.

>>17026140
>They don't openly congratulate other JP members regularly either.
they do, and they retweet the JP members a lot.
only 20% of JP reciprocate, and I like those JPs that actively trying to interact with overseas branch.
>Mori not interacting with people in her branch
bruh you probably don't even follow her.
the ID and EN branch are very close, and they are also close with small minority of JPs.
As I said, 80% of them don't even care and they don't get to get special treatment.

>>17026504
>Don't Holos congratulate each other often?
nope. not all.
>a meme about YAGOO only being able to add more exclamation points whenever he congratulated anyone.
bruh this isn't even related to the topic.
the exclamation depends on your subs milestone. 4 for 400k, 5 for 500k, so on.

>>17027123

Started at gen 3 they got better out the gate. Everyone before that looked stiff and weird. Even Noel and Flare had weirdly rigid models. I'll admit and say this is absolutely not her fault at all, but her design is just ugly as fuck. Always making stupid discount ahegao faces. Then that hillbilly outfit is an embarrassment. It's like her designer personally hates her to give these shit designs out.

>she's making the reddit jannies having to deal with her mess

>>17027235
4chan jannies too, but it's not her who shat on the threads, /vt/ anons did.

>>17025393
typical redditcucks who downplay what that piece of garbage is saying. He absolutely fucking knows what Connor means but wants to downplay it. Pathetic.

>>17025393
because the company moderates the subreddit and they ban you for negativety. they constantly try to debunk any negativeity. when hololive got blacklisted by china and banned from streaming musedash they made a long debunk about how this is simply anti-lies up until hololive quietly delisted all the archives of anyone playing it.

>>17026408
More like 0.25 than 1

>>17022464
Woman bad for using tools at her disposal to further her personal career

>>17025393
Connor was absolutely correct though, just look at Sana or Kronii. If you get in, you don't have to anything, literally, just saying your dog died, or read messages other people posted and still get hundreds of thousands of subs and lots of money. Indies and small corpos can work all they want for it and never get it. This is undeniable true, and holobronies just can't accept it.

>>17021993
>>17022469
>https://streamable.com/9cbgcr
>https://streamable.com/t2985s
People keep saying that she should move to Nijisanji. I don't get it. Even NijisanjiEN are up to date with their colleagues and senpais.
That branch ALWAYS talk on discord and twitter.
I hope Mori rests well and reflect. I hope she realizes that she have good friends in HoloEN that she can get close with.

>>17025393
I hate reddit and points 2-5 are correct, from watching back the VODs. I cannot be arsed to verify point 1 since I don't watch Connor, but that long-standing copypaste list of grievances could use a bit of a clean-up.
Like, there are legitimate points to be angry about, even if I don't agree with them, and she definitely did a yab. Why try to twist the truth with lies suiting your narrative when you already have workable material?

>>17027045
>She's using Hololive as a way to boost her roommate's clout and to experience the success of an idol without ever getting it on her own merits
I don't see how this doesn't apply to every other Holo if it applies to Kiara. The reason it's so bad with Mori is because you can tell how little she cares about Hololive in general, but Kiara actually does feel like a genuine Hololive fan who's happy to be a member not (only) because of the fame but because she enjoys the group dynamics within Hololive

>>17027383
>I hope she realizes that she have good friends in HoloEN that she can get close with.

Yeah, Ame's still waiting for her to figure that one out lol

>>17027381
Kroni is likable though. You might not like her, but her humor and voice is worth the 600k subs. You have no talent too, but I am sure you'll get rejected on screening.

>"people in hololive are popular not because of talent but because of brand"
Notice how it doesn't even imply that the livers are talentless, but only that they can be popular whether they have talent or not. No one can deny that Ina has talent for drawing for example, but no matter what, if they are in, they will be popular. Period.

>>17027442

Kiara is pretty much the only confirmed failed idol in Hololive. The bulk of early to mid Hololive are all experienced streamers or presenters whose work lead them to this. There is no other outlet for them to lean into.

Kiara is just living out her dreams through her avatar. Listening to her music and hearing her talk makes it pretty obvious why she didn't go far in the real world lol

>>17027500
Likeable is not a talent. I get what you are trying to say, but you are not even close to deny what I said. Anyone who can get into holo will be popular. And we know most of them got in via nepotism.

>>17025393
The only wrong point of this redditcuck is the first one. Why even mention a specific Group in your "example"? Connor is a ticking time bomb for a libel case if his shit-takes further escalates.

>>17027587

Different anon, but the product is still higher quality than any other agency. I know what you mean about Sana because she's pretty much Niiji tier in streaming quality, but everyone else at least fills a purpose and has actual experience with streaming.

You watch other vtubers be it niiji or indies or garbage western ones, it's always the same problem with them being nothing but dead air partly because of there being 40 viewers, but mostly because they have no fucking charisma.

>>17027557
Isn't Nene also a former idol?

>>17027729
Nene just change job, while given the the chance Kiara would still choose to be 3dpd idol

>>17027729

No one really gives a shit about Nene to look into her past lol

>b-but orange woman!
Eggs trying desperately to cling to relevancy lmao

>>17027372
The issue isn't using it to further her career. A good chunk of Hololive probably do it. The issue is being so blatant about it that it just comes off as disrespectful to her colleagues, her fans, and vtubing in general.

>>17027710
i disagree for the NijiENs because 2/3s of them are better than 2/3s of HoloEN, but I barely consider the HoloENs part of Hololive anyways

>>17028086

Maybe it's different tastes, but none of the Niiji ENs are watchable for me. Selen is pretty much just a Twitch streamer with no likeability and the rest just coombait and beg for clips.

>>17026626
>I don't know anything about japanese underground drug culture
Yeah it fucking shows. The problem isn't that no one does drugs, the problem is the social stigma against it and how people in the showbiz that are using get treated. If she actually did take any sort of drug, even fucking mary jane, she's done. She'll get ousted by Cover Corp AND will get lose her visa in one fell swoop.

>>17028201
You can just admit to not watching them or being a clipwatcher, it’s okay

>>17028300

Watching Selen's collab with Pochi sensei was painful. She just acts like a sweaty teen playing CoD.

>>17027381
Connor is also carried by his brand. He’s so butthurt against anyone with faster growth. Connor is going to toss Mouse like a used cumrag when the growth fades, doing the same shit he’s calling out by leeching off the next brand

>"people in hololive are popular not because of talent but because of brand"
But hes right.
Aki, Roboco, Azki, Mel, Choco, Luna, Anya, Iofi, Anya would be 20 views max
Even Gura without holoive was 2view nobody

>>17028625
>same post style
>still defending the shit take
anon, you really riding that welsh dick?

>>17028625
Sora built the brand up from 13 viewers. If anything anitubers have 0 talent and rely on their brands

>>17028691
Tell me where im wrong, please.
Some girls are riding that sweet clout train.
Im not saying all of them are talentless, but some girls wouldnt survive on their own

>>17021993
>These are just some of her crimes
IM CALLINNG THE POLICE RIGHT NOW

>>17028856
without popular animes and games like pokemon that welsh cunt would be a 2view too

>>17028949
Same as any vtuber, really weak point.

>>17024758
Why hasn't he shown even a hint of interest in defending her during all this mess? Because he's smart enough to stay away from her while she has her menhera episode, because his career is more important than their one sided "friendship". A real friend isn't like that, real friends are emotional / illogical and stick their necks out for each other, kind of like how Mori jumped into the fire to defend her "friend". If you're too sensitive about the Mori issue to listen to reason, then do your reps and check out the Nova + Lyrica friendship arc, which is similar to this one, where Lyrica got blasted for saying retarded shit, but Nova jumped to her defense, thus putting herself into the line of fire as well. Now that's friendship

>>17025551
Isn't that a joke with them? Or at the very least, she does similar and they're gaming the system together. I only ever see him on her schedule as "monke" or some bastardization of Connor.

>>17029596
>Real friendship is being retards together
That's an oddly beautiful way of putting it.

>obsessively tries to make a Cr1tikal collab happen a few months into debut, before interacting with any JP member in any way
You don't actually care about this. You're just mad because she spent Deadbeats' money on Connor and she """"""""""hangs out"""""""""""" with him irl (we all know what that entails).
>throws a fucking tantrum when Cover shoots her down, trying to make pseudo-collabs by singing his songs and leaving in his voice to make a duet, and vowing to make a collab happen someday somehow
And yet you don't actually care about this, you're just mad she likes Connor more than Hololive and more than you. And she's allowed to like whoever she wants.
>goes on TT just so she can interact with more 3D males
Because Connor is good looking and has the balls and clout to attract her.
>after completely blundering Coco and Gura collabs, she "suddenly", "coincidentally" brings her absolute A+ game to a Gigguk collab
I'm pretty sure she's on good terms with Coco since they did a meme review together, that wouldn't have happened otherwise.
>Forgets Ame's birthday TWICE, almost overlaps with Kiara's birthday and moves her stream at the last second, also doesn't bother congratulating Pekora on Twitter, BUT "coincidentally" finds the time to congratulate some literalwho NijiEN because he's male
NOOOOOO SHE LIKES A NIJI MAN1! AND HATES HOLOLIVE! 5 PERCENT!
Cope. She's in this for easy money and she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen. She earns more than even Kiara and has infinitely more gachikoi than broke ass poorfag Teamates and Chumbuds who never drop money on their oshis. Mori won.

Did Ame say anything about the birthday thing?

>>17030648
>it's ok for a hololive member to not care about hololive at all

>>17025973
>he thinks SCs are everything when it comes to earnings
haha you fucking naive moron
also gura gets more SC on average per stream compated to mori
the one and only reason mori has more money than gura is the simple fact that she has streamed more than her

>>17027587
If you are a likable personality then you do not need talent (ironically this is a point Connor himself made at one point by eluding to the fact that a chooba does not need to be a good streamer).

>>17022246

>>17030987
>it's okay for a walmart employee to not care about walmart at all

>>17031430
>Stacking shelves is the same as getting money thrown at you

>>17021993
She just wants some cock, is all.

>>17025957
Zoomers admire these losers because they grew up watching them. Their parents gave them iPads to shut them up, and this is what was popular in YouTube. I feel bad for them.
Say what you want of cable tv, but it was better than "content creators".

>>17031551
>back in my day
ok boomer

>>17031622
Nothing of real value or merit has ever been created for YouTube.

>>17026878
Did you check all of that? I see 8 likes on that screenshot.

>>17031694
ok boomer
go read a newspaper

>>17031551
>Better
They had better funding and presentation, but it's the same garbage.

?

>>17025957
He basically reacts to other videos or share some of his takes whenever something happens in terms of news or shit

Apparently he's based or whatever

>>17023007
>He thought "Mori hates Hololive" is a meme
You a dum-dum.

>>17031839
>Apparently he's based or whatever
He is a turbo normie who pretends to be cool and hip with the kids
Dude literally doesnt even know what loli is

>>17028856
Not wrong. What is wrong is saying a specific fucking brand.

If you go to a Holo's stream they will talk about how much they admire other Holos. If you go to Mori's stream, she will talk about how much she admires Critical or some other e-celeb. It's clear she thinks she's above Hololive, no doubt from all her indie rap friends and TT fags telling her she sold out. She thinks Hololive is cringe and wants to change it.

>>17027671
>Connor is a ticking time bomb for a libel case if his shit-takes further escalates.
are you on crack?

>>17031913
>pretends to be cool and hip
>almost 10m subs
I don't think it's pretending at this point, anonchama.

>>17032012
>numbers
you are joking right?

>>17031814
what the fuck is this shit

If this drama saga shows us anything is that Calli doesnt care about her fans or being a "Idol" shes in it for the e-fame. Once she loses it theyll drop her because no one was there for her. Hololive is most likely the best thing to happen to her and shes thrown it away lmao

>>17029596
Probably because she's asked him not to? The TT crew and Calli regularly hang out irl. I can imagine her trying to wave him off coming out with some passionate defense of her because it'd only add fuel to the fire. There is nothing Connor could say that would help the current situation.

shes in the end times

>>17032119
You're delusional, the majority of cuckbeats are completely fine with her, they let her get away with anything. This place is a minority. Mori might lose one or two paypigs but she'll still keep raking in the money.

>>17032119
>Hololive is most likely the best thing to happen to her and shes thrown it away
She's done until next week when everyone forgets and moved on to the next drama

>>17032112
I wouldn't worry about it.

>>17025393
at least that person isn't braindead. if you think connor's "big w" tweet is about calli you're actually retarded

>>17022246
Vshoujo is harmless, they should instead collab with them more imo

>>17032184
Look Connor said some dumb shit about Holo but hes literally barely involved in this besides hanging out with Mori IRL, its her own self destructive behaviour and being a drama magnetic thats dragged him into this.

>>17032119
If this drama saga shows us anything it's that Calli needs an alcohol intervention.

wew lad

>>17029596
a lonely anon defines friendship

>>17025200

>>17031200
rrat, but I would literally put money on Connor having heard the "you don't have to be a good streamer" line from Calli herself and he just parroted that same line to Mouse. Which is also why Calli defends him and won't address that line in any detail. That amongst the fact she clearly is friends with him and the whole trash taste crew.

Calli has said basically the same before in her streams that she's "not a great streamer" and clearly has imposter syndrome that she somehow doesn't deserve the success she's had. Especially considering her friend Milky (who is a streamer) was trying out for the same role and Calli got it despite having never streamed before.

Are we going to ignore that Kiara saying that she isn't in contact with TT people doesn't necessarily mean that Connor didn't apologize to her? This is weakest proof in this entire drama.

>>17022190
Because Cover doesn’t really give a shit what their talent does as long as they don’t say Taiwan is a country. Kiara can hate white people and say the n-word on stream and they didn’t care. Mori can probably fuck Connor on stream while calling her fans a bunch of retarded cuck faggots and they still won’t give a shit because she earns them a lot of money.

>>17031814
anon, why you posting demons?

>>17032184
I'm pretty sure you're falseflagging, but just in case
>she's asked him not to
>source: my ass
>I can imagine her trying to wave him off coming out with some passionate defense of her because it'd only add fuel to the fire
More fuel to the fire like how she's been doing all this time? If she cared about not adding fuel to the fire, she would have shut the fuck up after the initial incident
>there is nothing Connor could say that would help the current situation
Correct, but it would prove that he considers her a friend, for what that's worth

>>17032310
>projecting
Here's a (You). Don't worry deadbeat, chin up! I'm sure things will get better

>>17032382
>>17032112
I'm sorry, I spent 6 hours on /x/

>>17021993
She should collab with Nux the more seethe the better

>>17032353
Nice rrat. Makes perfect sense, she's doubling down so hard because she's defending her own words and partially because she feels responsible for the shit being slung at him.

LOL

I miss the yuri shipping.

>>17032454
Pretty good

>>17024023
Wait, so she didn't even actually fuck the guy? She's getting all this shit over a comic?

>>17032271
>its her own self destructive behaviour and being a drama magnetic thats dragged him into this.
This is true. A normal person in Mori's shoes would have drawn a clear separation between her work life and her personal life by associating with the TT people in private, knowing that a good chunk of her fans (and the general Hololive fanbase) have a distaste for them. That's what adults and people with common sense do.

>>17032280
What are you talking about? she isn't an alcoholic.
She even said so herself "I haven't had a drink in 2 days" and she only drinks to get wasted/buzzed and doesn't like the taste of alcohol. :^)

>>17032354
It is true, Connor could have sent an apology message, she said, ok, apology accepted and then they don't interact further.
Some deadbeats are trying to push the "personal apology by proxy" narrative, that is bollocks.

>>17032242
The drama won’t stop because Calli will keep sabotaging herself until she overdoses

>>17023007
She doesn't "hate hololive" she hates hololive fans. Big difference.

People get mad if she talks about a guy or talks to a guy now.

Correct that she hates idolshit and larping as an anime girl.

She doesn't hate the female gender, but she hates the fact that idoltards started screaming and crying and shidding their pants anytime she talked to any holo but Kiara, saying that she ruined their ship by collabing with anyone else. She's gotten hella defensive and reserved about her interactions and is clearly in her own head about anyone she talks to.

>>17032242
You said this seven days ago. How long do you think a week is?

>>17032454
Did you just lol at your own post? It's not even that funny of a meme on its own, and you ruined it completely by doing that.

>>17025979
> I remember the olympian who got turned down on tindr by some 5/10 whore and then she was mad when she found out he was an olympian
>Isreal
https://www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/culture/news/a31518/woman-realises-she-ignored-gold-medal-winning-olympic-swimmer-on-tinder/
Did that bitch she really made an archivement of someone beating Michael Phelps about herself?
And did the article really acted empathic towards her?
Man, this are the kind of girls that are normalfags. Not even Kiara reached this MeMeMeMe levels.

>>17031712
deadbeats are slow, be patient

>>17032531
Nah I still think it's pretty funny.

>>17032531
it's pretty funny, my dude

>>17032528
she should just neck lol

>>17032559
>>17032576
We can agree to disagree, the lol ruins it for me.

>>17032433
Anything to own the haters. Collateral damage means nothing.

>>17030648
>mad
Lol nigga everyone who is MAD are those who try to defend her.
She in cahoots with someone who openly dislike her work, call her talentless, but that's okay cuz he's so hawt, she's just as cuck as her yesman c*cks.
All she had to do is to play vydya and sings her shitty songs, but nooo i cant stand not being slut for more then two seconds.
Anyone who openly defend her is a cuck end of story.

>>17024385
>Lying to her face about listening to a cover that didn't exist

Spicy. Sauce?

>>17032600
Based ESL

>>17032600
Anon, you sound pretty mad in this post so you're not convincing anyone.

>>17021993
Why do people hate the penguin0 guy? I thought he was just made shitposty youtube videos?

>>17032629
It is posted on this very thread. Just scroll up.

>>17032600

>>17032600
holy esl and a cuck too. Color me surprised

>>17032600
>openly dislike her work
He and Mori have a lot in common.

>>17032635
call out a faggot when you see a faggot.

>>17032635
Anon. Just because people dont want ecelebs in hololive doesnt mean that anyone hates them. Why is this so hard to understand for some, i dont know.

>>17032718
Faggot.

My favorite thing about cuckbeat threads is they've convinced themselves she's a dime piece and every man in Japan is running MXC style to try and get a shot to fuck her.

>>17032743
She's a blonde white woman anon I don't know what to tell you.

>>17032529
maybe you should touch grass

>>17025393
Its actually funny how a copypasta i wrote in 5 minutes with some links I took from my browser history has caused people to seethe so fucking hard.

I even put the Connor tweet in the end just as a cherry on top. Holy shit that was the best decision I made.

>>17032600
based king, whiteknights deserve nothing
and japs know this

>>17028384
Ok, but why it`s bad? If it is profitable for your business and it is not prohibited by law, then why not? Immoral and wrong? But everyone involved got their benefits: The entertainers got the audience and the accompanying money, the audience got entertainment and drama. Everyone benefits, why such buhurts?

>>17032600
least based ESL poster

>>17032259
This is bait but you're actually right

If theres on postive from this, its that no more Holo's will associate with the leeches that are Trash taste

>>17032816
As soon as your oshi stops smoking it

>>17025200
Sounds like a good employee bringing in money for the company.

>>17032967

>>17032528
>she hates her job
Bohooo cant be a slut on public, what a tragedy, can you be anymore pathethic?
If she hates her job then she just fucking leave.
>muh idolshit
Foking nigger, its not about idolshit, its about her being retarded and scummy, everything that happend so far, happends because she hangs out with a douchebag who dont even care about her, insult her job and her career, but it's okay right? she's a literal cuck, like you.
>>17032634
>mad
lol i dont even watch her, hell i didnt even care about all this till lately, i'm laughing my ass off, if she's gone I will continue to laugh at her expense.

>>17032961
Eh, most likely they will anon. Management isn't gonna stop them, its EN management after all. Males are okay, ecelebs are okay, vwhores are okay but collabing with nijisanji is a big no

>>17032967
ratio

>>17025200
The only thing I don't like about her is when she ruins the flow between EOP and JOP collabs. They're just be laughing at each others broken language skills and having a good time when "wait, wait I need to translate this"

>>17032528 #
>she hates her job
> Bohooo cant be a slut on public, what a tragedy, can you be anymore pathethic?
> If she hates her job then she just fucking leave.
>muh idolshit
> Foking nigger, its not about idolshit, its about her being retarded and scummy, everything that happend so far, happends because she hangs out with a douchebag who dont even care about her, insult her job and her career, but it's okay right? she's a literal cuck, like you.
>>17032634 #
>mad
> lol i dont even watch her, hell i didnt even care about all this till lately, i'm laughing my ass off, if she's gone I will continue to laugh at her expense

>>17032635
Huh? All his videos are about how everyone else is immoral for disagreeing with him. He even did the standard, "all anime fans are pedophiles" video and acted like he was brave and at the forefront for doing so despite this being the oldest complaint from puritans since anime crossed the ocean.

Do you guys ever not think about Mori?

>>17033021
She's been doing this job for almost 2 years, she should know handle it look at everyone else in her gen Ame used to take the bait but now shes learned and doesnt. If she doesnt know what it consists of them shes just a retard

> Lol nigga everyone who is MAD are those who try to defend her.
> She in cahoots with someone who openly dislike her work, call her talentless, but that's okay cuz he's so hawt, she's just as cuck as her yesman c*cks.
All she had to do is to play vydya and sings her shitty songs, but nooo i cant stand not being slut for more then two seconds.
Anyone who openly defend her is a cuck end of story.

>>17028625
how to tell you're a clip watcher newfaggots without having to tell everyone that you're a clip watcher.
Shut the fuck up if you only watch clips you fucking nigger. I watch them all to a certain degree and most of the list you mentioned above has an extensive knowledge and talent in regards of streaming and attracting their audience
>Azki
She is an actual popular utawaku
>Choco and Mel
Their roommates has hundreds of thousands of subs
>Rbc
Before Hololive got popular, she was one of the more popular streamers even with debuff games like FPS and such
>Luna
She was a veteran NND streamer who despite changed her identity every month, she can still manages to get some degree of following
Shut the fuck up and know your fucking lane with that rrat you fucking Connor cucksucking nigger faggot.

>>17033169
>can't properly wojakpost
Many such cases

>>17032779
The meme named after her is literally about how everyone agrees her kind need to be exterminated

only a rrat but
cali’s been trying to damage control him saying hololive needs no effort to the point of defending in stupid ways
who do you think gave connor enough confidence ammo to say his hololive piece? Cali, and that’s what gets to her.

>>17033169
>cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
Is that all you can say? You're like a Pokemon.

>>17032635
He used to make pure shitposts involving gameplay and commentary, but since he started filming himself mainly, he’s gravitated towards sprinting to the finish line of faggotry. Practically everything he makes now is about tackling some general non-issue in the style of a neighborhood watch meeting.

>>17026626
Japan will literally blacklist your entire career if you're caught smoking weed once, no matter how popular you were beforehand.

>>17033252
There definitely is something to the fact that his statement describes her more than anyone but I think it's still quite unclear whether or not she understands that herself. She acts like it's about everyone except for her.

>>17028267
What problem?

>>17033266
>Practically everything he makes now
Just say you don’t watch him, what do you gain by pretending like this?

>>17022593
go back to your lean mori

>>17033098
Nice projection, still dont know why I should be mad when i'm celebrating, get real fagit, your oshi spit on you and you love it.
>hurrrr u mad cuz she talks with another guy
The guy she was talking is shitting on HER job, and she gets defensive of him, even though its due to this job she became famous.
Have some self-respect.

>>17028267
Japan is very lenient on its white monkeys, people are delusional for thinking they will do anything to her.

>>17033337
I don't care about him and you're a faggot if you do but this statement is completely normal if you're not his fan because those are his only videos that get recommended to you if you're not his fan. The only reason I even know who he is at all is because the algorithm is always trying to make me watch those videos every time I clear my browser.

>>17033370
shes not seperating her roomates life from her persona.
This dude shits on the company you work for and all the other idols that you "Respect" and look up to and you defend him lmao youre a cuck if you defend that.
The fact isthat you know that Connor wouldnt defend her he and the rest of the TT people are clout chasers once your useless to them theyll throw you away

>>17028856
You are wrong, because they had to build this popularity from scratch, and people who gets popular at first do not stay so for long.
Just look at the subs of each one and tell me that they are all equally popular.
p.s complaining about them being popular is like complaining about having better prospects in life when you join elite school or job.

>>17026626
They completely remodeled and redubbed a characters face in Judgment because his VA got caught with coke. He was also the voice of Olaf in Frozen and they redubbed him in all Frozen related media too.

>>17033392
>Japan is very lenient on its white monkeys
Anon literally every foreigner tells you that the jap police are specially annoying against foreigners, and drug abuse is the highest social crime of all, her j-rap career is over if she gets discovered

>>17032961
Not entirely outside of the realm of possibility but it is unlikely. No one else in EN really seems like the type to enjoy being no their show to begin with

>>17033169
>>17033098

Kiarabros...did we win?

>>17033392
That's china
Japan doesn't give a fuck, they'll deport you

>>17033524
Those are foreigners who are visiting or married someone to get in, not someone they are paying to be part of that entertainment abroad.

Japans like Singapore when it comes to drugs treats it the same as murder bascially.

>>17032967
based

>>17033550
I'M NOOOOOOOOOOOT OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
IiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
I'M REALLY NOT OKAY I'm REALLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY NOT OKAAAAAAAAAY
I"M NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT OKAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>17033392
>Japan cops literally tell landlords to not accept any white people who want an apartment because they have a high chance of ditching rent and escaping the country
???????????

>>17033671
When i was working over there for a company i legit had to crash in a co-workers aparment for 6 months because it was so hard to get a fucking apartment. Once i was there for a while i was eventually accept by realtors

>>17032528
Damn this suck, then maybe she should just leave? I mean, no one is forcing her to stay, but if she does, it is in fact an Idol company, the one that she joined roughly a year ago, so she is expected to act like one, nothing complicated about this.
If she wanna be an anime themed variety streamer, there is nijisanji right over there too.

>>17027671

AHAHAAHAHAHAAHHA HOLY FUCK THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF /VT/

>>17033671
You seem to be failing to get this is the difference between how people treat the citizen of a shithole country and a diplomat from that shithole country. You have to have some people on display that you give special privilege to obscure everything else. If Japan was as harsh as you seem to think it was, Mori would already be long gone.

I'm completely out of the loop, can someone give me a tl;dr on the most recent shitshow?

>>17033743
I think shes afraid to leave because she knows that without the Calli brand shes basically a nobody the average viewer wont go out and find their roomates account.

>>17033585
Like anyone can tell, they don't really care about your background they just want to bother you to feel like they're working, if it turns out you're actually doing something bad they hit the jackpot

>>17033743
I doubt she's going niji. Money is GeeXPlus snags her roommate the moment she quits holo.

>>17033780
Holobronies are malding because someone said (correctly) that holos would be popular even without talent, which doesn't even imply they are untalented, so there's nothing to be upset about if they have actual talents, but here we go.

>>17033767
Mori was living on the shittiest conditions before hololive, you're not really making a good example

>>17033780
She's confusing her IRL persona with Calli. She can't separate the two

>>17032529
kek, youve never read the bodybuilding forum argument? its impossible to know how many days there are in a week.

>No Japan doesn't care about drugs if you're white and rich
>JP police literally deport gaijin retards regularly for doing drugs

>>17033524
>literally every foreigner
Which ones?
The white people? Or the SEAmonkies and niggers?
I have a feeling I know which.

>>17030648
>She's in this for easy money and she succeeded more than any other girl in her gen.
>more than any other girl
Are you ok? she's literally the least popular.
>Because Connor is good looking and has the balls and clout to attract her
He gains or lose nothing by contacting her, and its callie who's more interested in him, dude don't give a fuck.
>Mori won
You need lobotomy, she's about to lose the only job that made her popular, without it she's a nobody, all because she gets defensive over being slut.
You cant twist it no matter how much you wanna spin it.

If all she wanted was to be around dicks for a while she should have just done more collabs with Holostars. Despite what some people might say those are totally fine to do, Fubuki does it, Bae does it, ID girls do it. Mori herself did the collab with Rikka and there was no drama over it, people like OP don't even bring it up as a problem.
Of course by now she might have just poisoned the well altogether.

>>17033615
based

>>17033919
Both you fucking retard, go to ANY foreigner's channel and everyone will tell you that jap police are ridicously annoying, they'll bother you even if they've known you for months, and again it's because they want an excuse to feel like they're working

>>17033941
Doubt she even remembers they exist, not enough subs to register on her radar

>>17021993
>>throws a fucking tantrum when Cover shoots her down
>>throws a fucking tantrum
Literally when?

>>17033996
I went on a snowboarding trip to Japan and they accused me of bringing drugs into the country out of nowhere. Even mentioned it was because I was white

>>17033996
>channel
Oh that's even better, we're talking about retards who have cameras out all the time filming in public! Then they're shocked that they get hassled for filming private citizens! You should've mentioned that sooner.

>>17034037
owned lol

Look, all he was trying to say is if you're part of the Hololive brand, it doesn't matter how boring or shit you are, you'll be popular because of the brand association, period.
Except Sana, Choco, Mel, Aki, Azki, Anya, Iofi, or any of the Homos but yeah you'll be popular period.

>>17034037

Pretty high likelihood that they'd be correct, chief.

Actually saw a cuckbeat on Twitter saying that Calli should just fuck Connor to spite her fans, can't make this shit up lol

>>17033780
>Mori reviews a cuckold comic on twitter where she is getting fucked by her anituber friend and her fans are crying
>reddit questions her behaviour
>she spergs out there and gets downvoted
>deletes posts and apologises
>talks about taking drugs and shit

y'know, this whole situation almost feels too convenient. too many variables all lining up at once. maybe i need some meds, but does anyone else get the feeling that what's happened over the past day or so wasnt a mistake? that we're all just pawns in the game of Death?

>>17033941
Seems pretty clear she's only interested in trash taste.

>>17034037
>Snowboarding trip
Yeah no shit they expect extreme sports retards to bring in drugs, dopamine high wears off gotta keep it going bro

>>17024513
>Cocos collab with her
The Mario Party one with Ollie? She had tons of fun in that, wdym?

>>17034051
Now you're being disingenuous, I mentioned channel's because it's something you can easily check yourself, but this happens to most foreigners dumbass, there's thousands of histories like that

>>17034134
>snowboarding
>extreme sports

I could barely handle the Blue hill when I went on that trip

>>17034177
just cause you're a faggot doesn't mean other people aren't hitting it hard

>>17034109
>first Holo to fuck during a stream is Calli, doing for real what everyone thought Meiro was doing

OH I WAS NOT EXPECTING THIS TURN

>>17022997
she's basically EN Ayame but worse

>>17033925
>least popular
>1.89 million subscribers
>thousands of viewers per stream
>probably made enough money to quit and be happy

maybe least popular by myth standards, but it's still important to remember that she's one of the most successful VTubers to ever exist.

>>17034323
She streams.

>>17028024
Woman bad for being honest

I'm sorry, but did Calli already graduate? Oh, that's right. Her career isn't over yet. In fact, it's only just began. Does having a few yabs and taking a break count as graduating? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you post this when she's still employed by Cover? Calli is writing more hit songs right now and she's been one of the top subscribed Holos for how many months now? She's fighting one of the lamest antis in the fandom who just happens to have a caught her on a bad week. But you know what? He's still just an obsessed incel. Calli is one of the best streamers in history, she's topping the music charts and would be top of her game if Coronavirus hadn't kept her from her family. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Calli is celebrating her Charlie collab and someone brings up this topic. Oh look at that, American viewers just woke up and don't give a shit about the latest rrats, as usual. Are you a guzzling lean? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Mori topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like the reaper because she's cool. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll deadbeats on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>>17033853
All the supposed strictness Japan has that people are upset about entirely exists to keep people like Mori out. The fact that they now celebrate all that same behavior that they would hate from any tourist shows you that they consider her to be a status above the rules.

>>17033925
>least popular.
for /here/ ya but else where she is not
>she's about to lose the only job that made her popular
you and i know that is never going to happen, too many deadbraps are invested into this shit

>>17034399
I mean she's honestly a bad person, yes, everyone agrees with that. Her fans just happen to like that about her and everyone else doesn't.

>>17032003
No he's right.
He's there by the grace of Kadokawa publishers. If one of the higher ups gets wind that some gaijin monkey they hire to prance about with his faggotry friends on gaijin youtube is grossly disrespecting a Japanese firm in a public setting, no matter how obliquely and he was blunt as fuck, then he's proper fucked. He will lose his job, his visa and will be deported back to shithole wales. You don't do this shit in Japan. Ever.

>>17032600
seanigger
based post nonetheless

>>17034473
>you and i know that is never going to happen, too many deadbraps are invested into this shit
If the drug shit escalates then she may lose it.

>>17023854
iirc the booty stank thing was when calli was working as a waitress, she received a poem from a costumer that said her "booty stank"

>>17034506
I wish Japan was so based but this fantasy has no root in reality. Kadokawa itself hates Japan, they are famous for throwing Japan under the bus to appeal to gaijin.

>>17034568
Man I wanted the best case scenario is for TT to lose their employment and get deported along with Calli graduating and getting sent back to burgerland.

>>17034503
>everyone agrees with that
Except those who watch streams, kek

>>17034537
Best move for her would be to just stop this shit and stop bringing attention to herself before Holo management starts asking questions. Especially before they start asking what that tweet meant.

>>17034568
>Kadokawa itself hates Japan, they are famous for throwing Japan under the bus to appeal to gaijin.
In what way?
Because it sounds like your making this up.

I never liked Mori. I hatrd her voice, her attitude, her awkward personality and her lack of care for hololive.

>>17034630
What you want and reality are two completely different things, believe it or not.

>>17034667
>What is Kemono Friends

>>17034685
I'm not as delusional as cuckbeats, I just didn't know about the Kadokawa thing

>>17034691
Yes, truly throwing their nation under the bus.

>>17034650
I dare you to find a single person who doesn't agree, at best you'll find people who describe the exact same traits people hate about her but soften the language by saying she's "autistic" or "an alcoholic" or has "anxiety". Nobody denies that her core traits are negative, they just overlook them because she lacks a penis.

>>17034336
Besides sub count, Mori is likely 3rd most popular from Myth, behind Ina, surprisingly enough.

>>17034660
>Missu carriope-san, whattu issu "rean"?

>>17027383
That fucking King moment with Kiara still makes me cringe

>>17034667
I mean they are an /a/ company so if you had any awareness of them at all you'd already know all the stupid shit they do. Their CEO openly brags about destroying the culture to make it more palatable for foreigners.

>>17032259
vshojo is already deeply involved with 3D males/streamers afaik more than ever after some corporate collab they had recently, veibae is now dating sodapopin or something like that shits fucked up.

>>17034568
They care about their local buyers more than do do about an experimental (for them) podcast by a bunch of bitter expats dreamed up by some american chink intern.
You don't show disrespect for other companies there.
The only reason why this flew under the radar is because it's all in english. All it takes is for 5ch fags to make enough noise and complain through official channels for them to take notice.

>>17034765
>>17027383
Explain it? What was the problem?

>>17034798
Kiara never sang king

>>17034836
Lol. But literally everyone sang it so it's not unthinkable to assume she did.

>>17034109
WHY ARE DEADBEATS LIKE THIS

WHY

>>17034798
Kiara sent Mori a link telling her it's her cover of King. Mori says she listened to it and that it was very good.

Kiara sent a rickroll link, she didn't cover King at all, Mori was lying out her ass and straight to Kiara's face

>>17034798
She didn't actually cover King, she made a fake King cover shitpost on Twitter that linked to a rickroll vid. Mori saw the post but never clicked the link.

>>17034859
It is however a shit move to assume they did and lie to their face that you loved it

>>17034794
No, Kadokawa is specifically after the global market. That's what sets them apart from your average Japanese publisher. They are the ones who own the only Japanese digital manga store that is actually accessible to any foreigner. The TT fags shill it for them.

>>17028201
So you have no idea then.

>>17034859
That's why Calli thought it was a safe answer.

>>17034747
tanigo san stumbling around the hololive office trying to stay upright, head spinning, knocking figmas and wall scrolls off the shelf and walls and shit

>>17034897
Agree, she could have gotten out of it if she asked if Kiara sang it, then just saying she doesn't remember it.

>>17034109
must be this guy

>>17034109
Screenshot that shit please to add to the collection.

>>17034399
>being honest scumbag is something we should celebrate
I never could understand why westerners and americans specifically do this, she would suck black cocks and you people would celebrate it.
This is literally why world goes down to hell.

>>17034725
>>17034725
She enjoys streaming and collabing with genmates, anon. Watch any Caligula stream or TakoMori stream, and all the recent solo streams. You're channeling your autism into a complete nothingburger.

>>17034950
WHY DO THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME

>>17034901
Welp, godspeed to the 5ch fans AND antis. Hopefully they seethe enough and see that these fags are enough of a threat that they'll do what they can to get them out. They'd never heard of them before, but I'm sure that the more they hear they'll hate them as much as any true anon here, reddit election tourists not included.

>>17034974
That sponsored rl stream was aids. Ollie was alright, but Calli was clearly out of her comfort zone

But it was an ad so not bad

>>17034974
>nothingburger
Take note everyone still ITT: the cukbetas decided to push this buzzword on their discord to attempt some damage control.

>>17034923
>dissu samu gudu shittu

> NOOOO SHE'S COLLABING WITH MALEEEESSSSS AHHHHHHHH
> NOOOO CONNUR IS FUCKING MY PURE REAPER CARIOPE NOOOOO
> NOOOO SHE'S TALKING TO MALEEE ON TWITTER NOOOOOO!!!!

>>17035078
Ahh stop making a big deal about it, this is all just a great big nothinghotdog

>>17034836
>>17034869
>>17034872
This. And to this day autistic faggots on this site still believe it was anything but a playful joke.

>>17027383
Well what would be the point of moving to a smaller audience where whatever you do wouldn't get nearly as much attention.She might not care about hololive or streaming for the matter but she is heavily invested in her music stuff getting in contact with all the producers she ever respected and working with them on stuff was the reason why she decided to get serious about streams and improve her collab game. Honestly no idea why she's so salty all of a sudden seems like a mix of drugs, overworking herself on numerous projects and spending too much time with TT faggots that laugh from her audience of "simps". Seems like she's seriously fucked up atm.

>nothingburger
> Take note everyone still ITT: the cukbetas decided to push this buzzword on their discord to attempt some damage control.

>>17034974
I realize you're someone other than the original guy and are trying to have some other conversation but even if we pretended all of what you just said was true (it's not), it actually has nothing to do with the conversation. Describe her core traits and unless you attempt to bend over backwards or lie, you'll find the things you describe as her positives are the same things everyone else sees as her negatives. People aren't confused over there being two different Mori's, one group just isn't enchanted by her vagina. Her supporters through this drama praise her for shitting on idol culture and fanning the flames with trolls and being generally abrasive and champion the idea of her cucking them. But people who aren't her fans consider those bad traits.

>>17035141
take note thread faggots, cuckbeat attempts to spin this as an anti-male collab thing has failed yet they continue to do so because they don't know what else to do

> take note thread faggots, cuckbeat attempts to spin this as an anti-male collab thing has failed yet they continue to do so because they don't know what else to do

>>17035234
The sad thing is the average Reddit secondary reductionist will buy it because "le hecking toxic idol culture".

> The sad thing is the average Reddit secondary reductionist will buy it because "le hecking toxic idol culture".

>>17027383
How did people outside of here react to the king thing? Twitter? Reddit? I can't find the clip anywhere else.

>>17035364
Any mention is reddit hugbox after being downboated to nothing. Her cuckcord also banned anyone that brought it up.

>>17034955
https://twitter.com/XanderJ77316862/status/1485156754782523392

>>17035293
Youtube just tried to recommend me a video with 48K views saying Mori has been suspended and this is the fault of idol culture. So it seems they've already won that narrative. I'm not going to watch it but it genuinely boggles my mind how someone managed to make a video and lie so blatantly to think idol culture has anything to do with this. There are multiple Holos who get hate because of idol culture but Calli is not one of them. Nobody sees her being anywhere even in the realm of idol.

>>17031200
>dont have to be a good streamer
He's not good streamer himself, he just dont like the fact that someone is more succesful than himself, it's plain hypocrisy.
Besides, Hologirls ARE good streamers, not all of them but most of them popular for a reason, those who are not are least popular.
>>17027520
>Notice how it doesn't even imply that the livers are talentles
Thats the exact meaning of his words, u dumb fuck.
And it doesnt even matter, once they get graduate they will lose everything.

((jacobs)
at least they're consistent in their interests

>>17035427
That guy is clearly making fun of her fanbase but he is right that this is what her method of "sticking it to the hates" leads to. His account is an endless stream of him shitting on some video ft. Gigguk so I doubt he likes TT.

>>17035446
>how someone managed to make a video and lie so blatantly to think idol culture has anything to do with this
Easy, they literally do it right here, because they are mad and in denial.
I mean they even claim the connor dindu nuffin lel, the real question how people can be so cucked and retarded, they will go as far as to hate hololive and idol even though they watching this shit.
Making EN branch was a mistake, western cucks should just fuck off and celebrate BBC in their oshi vagoo.

>>17035427
can't explain how much i hate twitterfags, they think every vtuber company must be pure hedonism

> Easy, they literally do it right here, because they are mad and in denial.
I mean they even claim the connor dindu nuffin lel, the real question how people can be so cucked and retarded, they will go as far as to hate hololive and idol even though they watching this shit.
Making EN branch was a mistake, western cucks should just fuck off and celebrate BBC in their oshi vagoo.

>>17025916
You replied to someone talking about Kronii not Mori

>>17025650
>being threatened by british fagboy beta
this is why unicorns are pathetic

>>17035686
>NOOOOOOO VAGINA IS SACRED SHE SHOULD HAVE SEX WITH EVERYONE AS MUCH AS SHE WANTS I WOULD GLADLY LICK THE SPERM FROM HER VAGINA

>>17035632
>connor dindu nuffin
Ehat DID welshfag actually do? Other than spend some time with a drug addicted degenerate out of the kindness of his heart that is.