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17017957 No.17017957 [Reply] [Original]

It's official. She lost her mind...

>> No.17018034

I watch Vtubers from a distance but holy shit is she a retard. You're going to sabotage your career over a shitty podcaster??? That ugly fuck??? Not even a dude who's hot?? What's wrong with her!!!

>> No.17018037

I'm guessing she's drunk and in a petty mood again.

>> No.17018064

She hit the lean, I mean drankies

>> No.17018076

>>17018034
HE'S FAT. LITERALLY FAT. MORI IF YOU DESTROY CAREER AT LEAST DO IT FOR A MAN WHO ISN'T UGLY!

>> No.17018097
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420 LEAN IT FAGGOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stgrSjynPKs

>> No.17018098

What are the chances Sydsnap convinced Mori to have a 3 way with Gigguk?

>> No.17018109

>>17017957
>Mori dragging Kiara with her
This really looks bad for her. Holofans actually wanted the YAGOO collab since they find him a living meme.

>> No.17018128

You guys are really bored right now aren't you?

>> No.17018137
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>>17017957
gaslighting Kiara

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>>17018128

>> No.17018159

>>17018128
Well, she is bored too, so if she wants to play this game, we will play it with her

>> No.17018170

>>17018128
ogey cucklord. Go back to /hlgg/

>> No.17018188

>>17018128
You should be asking her that

>> No.17018196

Is she suggesting there's an equivalence?

>> No.17018209

>>17018137
This, I think she's mad a KFP made her look retarded is and is taking it out on kiara

>> No.17018221

>>17018141
>>17018159
>>17018170
>>17018188
Imma take that as a yes, easiest (You)s of my life.

>> No.17018222

>>17018196
Yes, unironically

>> No.17018253

>>17018128
Can we PLEASE just have some fun? Please?

>> No.17018257

>>17018128
Hey there, I don't exactly have the exciting life of a cuckold like you buddy

>> No.17018264
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>>17018221
enjoy the (you)'s, start looking another oshi, cuz mori not gonna last enough

*siiips*

>> No.17018297

>>17018209
>a KFP
holy shit you're retarded

>> No.17018298

>>17018253
*downvote*

>> No.17018305

>>17018222
How dare she compare Yagoo to those sleazy scumbags

>> No.17018308

>>17018221
Can you imagine what connor's penis smells like?

>> No.17018313

>>17018264
She wasn't my oshi, that's the best part. I was the one who was bored all along.

>> No.17018317

>>17018264
KEK, fuck you this edit actually made me laugh

>> No.17018348

>>17018297
Anon never said he wasn't KFP, just that he was against kiara streaming with men
A lot of KFP agreed with him

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17018351

Oh no! Vtubers are becoming huge! What should we do?!

>> No.17018359

>>17018128
They are grasping at straws in the hopes that they can get a "I told you so" moment. Bread and circus.

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>>17018128

>> No.17018372
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17018372

What did she mean by this?

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Mori be hittin that lean hard still frfr no cap

>> No.17018401

>>17018128
How the fuck did this get so many responses so quickly? Are you all retarded?

>> No.17018404

>>17017957
this is nothing, the only one you should be focusing on is >>17018372
Also 1 thread faggots, keep it inside one fucking OP

>> No.17018419

>>17018305
Yagoo is sleazy though, he's no different than a pimp

>> No.17018429

there is literally nothing wrong with this

>> No.17018439

>>17017957
So this just confirms that she didnt really regret shit but was forced to go on a break?

>> No.17018449

>>17018401
fuck off mori, go hit some lean

>> No.17018454

>>17018401
Holobronies have been completely broken by Mori. It's glorious to witness. Try it yourself, you'll be amazed at how easy it is.

>> No.17018477

>>17018439
She's not on break according to her latest tweet, she can stream when she feels like it but no schedule for the next couple of weeks

>> No.17018481

All this thing reminds of that one among us collab with council where ame kept telling calli that she was digging her own grave.
I guess this is how she handles everything.

>> No.17018483

>>17018439
Of course. She's been liking a lot of male NijiEN tweets, more than holo tweets

>> No.17018487

>>17018439
I think she willingly took a break, because the drama is stressing her out and she's not willing to back down on it publicly.

>> No.17018492

>>17018439
Yes zir

>> No.17018536

>>17018483
Vox also follows Connor, they are all part of the same clique

>> No.17018544
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>>17018477
she IS on break, look for the devil cubes, she announced her rebirth next month.

Coco said the same and look how that well ended.

Only who seek the truth shall find it. That is the rrat's word.

>> No.17018546

>>17018449
>proving their point
Anon...

>> No.17018570

Things are gonna be worse for Mori once JPnikis find out what lean is.

>> No.17018597

>>17018570
for sure but that won't happen anytime soon, nobody here knows/haves the balls into diving on 5ch

>> No.17018607

>>17018570
I mean, I don't think it'll affect much at all really.

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>>17017957
There's nothing wrong with Mori retweeting that and anybody upset by it is an unmedicated schizo.

>> No.17018729

>>17018597
I'm in Japan and I'm going to be explaining lean to them in detail.

>> No.17018758

>>17018729
What's stopping you from doing it now?

>> No.17018773

>>17018729
Keep us posted anonchama

>> No.17018788

>>17018729
And I'm a Nigerian Prince that wants to send you money via email.

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>>17018729
You have no balls, you wouldn't dare

>> No.17018801

>>17017957
Who's domo.?

>> No.17018812

>>17018729
Keep up the good work anon! You have our support.

>> No.17018858

You just know the EN girls are sweating bullets on what Mori is doing. Imagine you try hard to be like your JP senpais and one of your co-workers is sperging hard on twitter because some random no name anti dissed her male friends.

>> No.17018863

>>17018718
>unmedicated
Double cup leanin’ never catch me without the sizzurp

>> No.17018869

>>17018729
Please do, we need a big yab to keep /vt/ flowing

>> No.17018888
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>>17017957
AME LIKED THE SAME TWEET TOO!!!

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>>17018477
She's too fucked up to stream for at least another week, but I personally want her to go live right now on Twitch and keep the yab train a rolling.

>> No.17018921

>>17018098
Pretty high lol.

>> No.17018958

>>17018863
This physically hurt me to read.

>> No.17019014

>>17018858
It's not going to affect them much, anon. Only Calli is going to feel this, and it'll probably hang over her for a while.

>> No.17019043

Bros... I'm going to do it. I'm going to try this "lean" drink. Seems easy, just cough syrup, sprite, and jolly ranchers.

>> No.17019048

>>17018729
Seriously, i suggest you to not. She's just a big dum dum and she need a treatment. Spilling the Lean stuff could potentially get her fired, deported, and even jailed (assuming if she has to deal with Japan law not US). She did a lot of retarded things, but she doesn't deserve that much punishment. Please be considerate.

>> No.17019084

>>17018888
Kek,
What the fuck is going on?
Are they roasting EN management?

>> No.17019128

>>17019084
Trying to imply that Kiara interviewing Yagoo is no different than Mori being on trash taste

>> No.17019137

>>17018858
Ame is gonna go into JP collab overdrive, even if it kills her via awkward autism overload through Apex. Gura is currently holding her entire Gen on her shoulders with her Bully and Ark streams. Fuck, even Kiara knows when to tap out.

>> No.17019143

>>17018729
The true nothingburger, as usual nothing.

>> No.17019164

>>17018419
If that was true then Yagoo wouldn't be dealing with this shit right now and instead be bitch slapping Mori senseless

>> No.17019173

>>17019048
Some people just want to see the world burn

>> No.17019196

>>17019128
It's just a tweet about crossing over with real people, it's not serious.

>> No.17019205

>>17018098
Oh shit.

Maybe it was after they did that video.

>> No.17019238

>>17019048
It's not going to cause a shitstorm because Mori's not close to any of the other Holos in Japan. You need torches and pitchforks from the JP fans to make Cover fire her, and Cover won't fire her.

>> No.17019259

>>17019205
As I recall Mori was in a hotel when she called Gura for her birthday

>> No.17019310

>>17018729
I'm Elon Musk and I will double any bitcoin you send

>> No.17019319

>>17018128
I mean they spend their time to send same 3 image over and over again.

>> No.17019353

>>17017957
The sad thing is that kiara is probably happy about mori retweeting something with her in it...

>> No.17019355

>>17019259
Holy shit

>IS REAL

>> No.17019375

>>17019353
My poor chicken...

>> No.17019422

Wouldn't be surprising if Calli drank lean desu.
Drugs in Japan is probably expensive as fuck and probably couldn't trust anyone dealing there to not be a snitch.

>> No.17019441 [DELETED] 

>>17019353
Fuck i can actually bealive that...

>> No.17019489
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>>17019353
I hate Mori so goddamn much.

>> No.17019561

>>17019238
shitstorm, maybe not. but it can go down on this route
>corpo (not just omega/jchad) heard they got a junkie in the house
>they took it seriously to cleanse any potential slander in the future (yagoo is featured on forbes not long ago, for fuck sake)
>force drug test on her, to at least show people that they're clean and there's no junkie in the house
>if the result turns out to be positive, the outcome is obvious
>hololive/cover which was seem like a solid, invulnerable castle at the beginning, now can be taken down in a single night. all just because a single welsh assassin managed to infiltrate their blind spot
do you really think they would let that happen?

>> No.17019681

>>17019353
I don't know anon, a big part of this controversy started when kiara answered a SC stating calli lied about connor reaching out to them to apologize

>> No.17019704

>>17019048
Tenchou sends her regards

>> No.17019706

>>17017957
Dragging the CEO...

>> No.17019752

>>17019681
Did that happen? I didnt hear about that

>> No.17019776

Why are people treating lean like methamphetamine? it's a fucking cough syrup with sprite.

>> No.17019808

>>17019776
/vt/ is like a middle schooler when it comes to drugs

>> No.17019820

>>17018076
exatcly if you're gonna destroy your career do it for a chad thundercock, not a borderline ginger non-groomed fat ironic weeb

>> No.17019851

>>17019752
Na someone asked her if she will collab with the tt guys and she said she has no contact with them and that means mori lied about connor apologizing

>> No.17019855

>>17019752
>Mori collabs with TT people
>person from TT named Connor says in his stream that people in hololive are popular not because of talent but because of brand
>https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4
>fast forwarding
>member in Moris stream politely asks her to not associate with these people
>https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults the members and says that Connor apologised to every holoEN member
>https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>clip of Kiara proof that this was a lie. Kiara hasn't been in contact with any of them
>https://streamable.com/5a8uq2#
>she donates 50 subs to Connor on her brand new twitch account
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM [Embed] [Embed]
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she wont read superchats anymore
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM [Embed] [Embed]
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>people even in her youtube comment section are mad to her
>few days later she responds to 6 days old tweet of someone posting a comic of deadbeat getting literally cucked by Connor who is fucking Mori on the picture
>http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>even reddit gets mad at her
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
>https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvote bombed
>shortly after she deletes it and apologises and announces break
>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123064719/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>says she "hit the lean hard"
>anons realize she just confirmed getting high with codeine as drugs are rare in japan for someone as her.
>a mixture of Jolly Ranchers, Sprite, and codeine that will get you high asf.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)
>basically admits drug use
>damage control a bit later
>https://files.catbox.moe/t7oy6q.png
>Connor tweets "easy W"
>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123071557/https://twitter.com/CDawgVA/status/1485137798512652288

>> No.17019871

I'm convinced now that /vt/ consist of mentally ill 13yo drama girls. this is embarrassing

>> No.17019901

>>17019871
/thread

>> No.17019927

>>17019776
>>17019808
>When taken in prescribed quantities, cough syrup is quite safe,[12] but dangers arise in higher doses since promethazine is a depressant of the central nervous system (CNS), and codeine is a respiratory depressant. When codeine is taken in very large amounts, it can cause one to stop breathing.

>> No.17020033

>>17019871
No wonder Mori feels right at home here.

>> No.17020066

>>17019855
>>17019681
https://youtu.be/8Flzv4pZUak?t=5h14m55s

>> No.17020070

>>17019776
Remember where Calli resides at this moment. That's the main issue.

>> No.17020095

>>17019855
The easy W was in reference to a different thing he was doing with Ludwig.

>> No.17020148

>>17019871
>Noooo you can't talk about my oshi imploding and making a spectacle of herself that's DRAMAFAGGING!!!!
Noose yourself

>> No.17020184

>>17019776
Mori lives in a country with a heavy anti-drug sentiment. Bringing up lean is just one of the 3 things she's done to get us this mess, but it might be the most egregious one because of her position.

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>>17017957
the gift that keeps on giving.

>> No.17020310

I've been a former deadbeat for some time now, but I'm like 5 seconds away from totally disavowing her

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>> No.17020334

>>17020095
It's more funny than anything else, he absolutely has no idea/doesn't care what mori is going through while she is desperate for his cock

>> No.17020381

>>17019776
your country reps

>> No.17020468

>>17019776
Japs treat weed the same way the US treats fentanyl

>> No.17020473

>>17018729
Then fucking do it. Go on 5ch, make your point, post proof.

>> No.17020506

>>17019776
Yes I agree with this anon it is just cough syrup and sprite. Why can’t we have a cooking stream where Cali mixes up her favorite lean flavors for us.

>> No.17020597

>>17017957
Gura will be devastated when Mori graduates.

>> No.17020648

>>17020327
How can one Welsh guy be so based?

>> No.17020691

>>17020597
Just like Kanata did when Coco's gone

>> No.17020704

>>17019048
stfu cuckbebat

>> No.17020771

>>17020597
Gura is also kind of burned out due to her own misfortunes, I expect her to actually feel less stressed with Mori gone.

>> No.17020860

>>17019561
The easiest way out is to not get tested. They'll fake a negative if they have to. Cover definitely don't want to terminate a member. why do you think xer did the banishment room method?

>> No.17020952

>>17018888
Checked. I'll give Ame benefit of a doubt for now and say she probably isn't aware of the situation as a whole and liked it without much thought, while Mori clearly retweeted it as a part of her crusade to "own the antis".

>> No.17021005

>>17019561
>single welsh assassin
Shit I lol'd

>> No.17021113

possibly losing your entire career over some faggot anituber, absolutely hilarious

>> No.17021483

>>17019855
>>https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4
I just really hate the way he talks
HIs accent is weird
His voice isnt that pretty on the ears either?
I much rather listen to Glenn Howerton talk. Now thats an attractive voice

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17021795

I get why her biting the bait for a 5 day old post at the time and then complaining on Reddit of all places makes her look like a dumbass but this just feels like a nothing burger.

It's just a joke about "haha what if vtubers and real people met and talked, wouldn't that be wild?"

Please stop dragging my oshi into this, she made a really good talkshow episode with yagoo and got him to acknowledge Amelia and her VR chat organizing efforts.

>> No.17021925

sorry for bad English
where were you when Mori is kill ?
I was on v, browsing Needy girlfriend overdose
Then anons say "Mori lean"
no

>> No.17021945

>>17018034
I'm bi, and I can confirm that connor is incredibly ugly. Don't understand how anyone can be attracted to him. Even his own friend laugh at the idea of being with him. Personality wise he seems like a manipulative groomer.

>> No.17021961

>>17021925
On /vt/ jacking it to Ina

>> No.17021979

>>17018064
My beer is all over my fucking monitor now, thanks.

>> No.17022062

>>17018097
>rapper
>doesn't know lean is slang

Was pretty funny. Would be like a golfer not knowing what a sandwich club is for.

>> No.17022253

>>17021483
It's also that typical blogger arrogance that thinks their opinion on anything matters.

>> No.17022306

>>17022062
Wouldn't be the first time it happened in Mori's career.

>> No.17022325

More people are making fun of her for the Lean thing and being white. I've never seen a holo get made fun of this way.

She's done.

>> No.17022456

>>17022325
fucking lmao, cover is going to make her graduate just to save face from embarrassment instead of the drug shit

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MORI REAPER LOST THEY MIND!
CONNOR SEX FOR 9.99!!

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>>17019855
Just gonna leave this shit here

>> No.17022681

>>17019776
YWNBAVT

>> No.17022693

>>17018799
Balls? More like japanese knowledge

>> No.17022705

>>17021945
>bi aka gay
Ok faggot. I will have you know, Connor is know as the 93%. You know what that mean? It mean his fanbase compose of 93% female. You being gay probably mean you are sttracted to macho dude so of course you can’t see why women like him.

>> No.17022708

>>17018128
>You are really bored right now aren't you?
I'm not playing Jump King.

>> No.17022728

>>17021961
Based

>> No.17022845

>>17020771
Context?

>> No.17022944

>>17019871
son, we're discussing a vtuber expressing herself on her official twitter, on a board designated for vtuber discussion. what's your problem?

>> No.17023033

>>17018128
you must be just as bored to come to every single shitposting thread just to white knight

>> No.17023068

>>17020771
Nice head canon.

>> No.17023194

>>17022705
>His subs are 93% women, trust me i'm a doctor.

By his own admission his youtube analytics shows his gender demographics at 62.7% female. Try again cuckbeat

>> No.17023245

>>17022705
why do they, enlighten me

>> No.17023360

>>17018034
Over dude and another Connor dude, who really don't give a shit about you, it's ridiculously funny

>> No.17023600

>>17017957
I tried exercising metal gymnastic, but I could not find anything wrong with her liking the tweet. /vt/ be reaching for shits now

>> No.17023778

>>17022062
she thought someone saying her booty stank meant she had a big ass instead of it being so unwashed that the stench was easily perceptible

>> No.17023870

>>17017957
oh god domo is like the shittiest envt leech

>> No.17023878

https://youtu.be/jYnn1q8hq6c thread theme

>> No.17023910

Ahahaha, oh shit. Looks like the Nips learned what "lean" is. It's really ogre for her now huh

>> No.17023934

>>17019855
She's become the female Ethan Ralph.

>> No.17023953

>>17017957
I can imagine what a shitshow is happening behind Hololive's curtains for the last couple of months.
Really hope to see something triggering the chain reaction and some shit hitting the fan. If that happens, the show will be glorious, with multiple possible graduations and possibly something even juicier than graduations. The actual "final yab" is as close as it ever been.

>> No.17023963

>>17019820
>implies that she could pull anything else
just look at her

>> No.17023975

>>17018128
This whole thing has been a great argument for board IDs. Would easily expose how many threads are the same person, how many are shit stirring Nijifags, and how many are shitposters from other boards literally only here for the drama.

>> No.17023994

I hope yagoo learns from this and graduates her holy shit.

>> No.17024025

>>17019776
it gets metabolized to morphine in the body
it's the right up the same alley as heroin or fentanyl

>> No.17024036

>>17023975
Cry me a river and seethe, cuckbeat

>> No.17024058

>>17018034
Imagine ruining your career over a fat Welshman of all people

>> No.17024155

>>17023994
The only way Mori gets fired is if she's actually doing lean.

>> No.17024299

>>17024155
I highly doubt they are going to drug test her

>> No.17024347

>>17024299
Considering Cover's competency, that's highly likely.

>> No.17024419

>>17024347
Nips don't even know what lean is

>> No.17024484

>>17023245
Sorry I am not a women, all I know is women list after him and you being gay will probably never understand.

>> No.17024493

>>17017957
what am I looking at besides OP's retardation?

>> No.17024499

>>17018097
Lean thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbdQIGoAQBw&feature=youtu.be

>> No.17024528

>>17023194
At one point it was at 93% dumbass which is why that is one of his nickname.

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>>17024484
Guess you're gay too

>> No.17024664

>>17024603
Ever heard of the word straight? It is a thing. I am not the one admitting he was bi(aka gay) like you so don’t lump me in with you.

>> No.17024736

>>17024664
It's not a problem man you don't have to be ashamed

>> No.17025061

>>17024736
Being straight is something to be ashamed of? What world are you living in? Is that why you are bi?

>> No.17025165

>>17025061
the longer you stay in denial the harder the coming out is gonna be...

>> No.17025407

>>17025165
Speaking from experiences? Story time?

>> No.17025684

>>17023194
Cope harder and learn English faggot

>> No.17026633

The funniest or saddest part is that Calli may actually don't get and ask herself why she gets a shitstorm while Kiara gets praise.

>> No.17026696

>>17018253
kek

>> No.17026864

thread bgm
https://youtu.be/a8v0uD8CuHI

>> No.17027018

>2021: Deadbeats disgusted that their oshi is associated with Kiara
>2022: KFP disgusted their oshi is associated with Mori

poetic

>> No.17027119

>>17027018
Both are disgusting

>> No.17027127

>>17019048
Remember no wiggers

>> No.17027134

>>17024036
You don't need to be a deadbrap to be getting tired of the constant flooding of threads on the topic. Keep the shit in one thread

>> No.17027230

I never thought I would feel bad for Kiara of all people. I hope Mori realises that the "I was drunk" excuse wears thin real fast.

>> No.17027236

>>17027018
Neither has been "associated" with the other for over a year now

>> No.17027347

>>17018888
she is accelerating, double hitler

>> No.17028298

>>17019776
do your drug reps anon jesus

>> No.17028564

>>17019776
caught doing drugs in nipland is the fastest way to get blacklisted into poverty or deported in her case dumbass

>> No.17029699

>>17020473
>>17019048
>>17018869
>>17018812
He won't do it.

>> No.17029739

>>17029699
I'm doing it

>> No.17029771

Have the Japanese learned about the lean part yet?

>> No.17029885

>>17023245
Because he panders to them, and was one of the first to at that. Yaoi scenarios, crossdressing, combine those with not being an ugly fatass and you're a fujo magnet.

>> No.17030789
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17030789

>>17018297
Do your reps anon

>> No.17031223

If lean is literally codeine mixed with cough syrup, what's the point of it?

>> No.17031418

>>17019855
>>17020066
Are we going to ignore that Kiara saying that she isn't in contact with TT people doesn't necessarily mean that Connor didn't apologize to her? This is weakest proof in this entire drama.

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