/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>168412
>vtuber reincarnation of Hitler
imagine if she played hoi4
VGH

uto the best

>>168464
This is actually a good idea, cant wait for Adolfia Hitler's collab with this cutie.

>>168412
she do anything "wrong"?

>>169701
I still don't get what she did that pissed people off

>>169838
I dont think she did anything? other than sorta looking like ame

>>169701
Not much really, but she did gather resentment over some things viewed as a bit sketchy.
To me the only objectively wrong thing she did was abusing the Holo tags (whixh are in no way related to her) to jump into the algorithm, which is against youtube TOS

>>169896
But Hololive did the same thing with Nijisanji in the early days.

>>169896
I heard she didnt pay for some time her the artist she commissioned, or something along those lines
I dont follow her but theres been some talk about her

>>168412
>>168464
>Hitler
Don't compare Comrade Tenshi to that fascist piece of shit.

>>169922
They used similar vtuber tags because they were the only ones around doing that sort of content. But they didn't write the names of Niji talents as the tags.

Which Uto did at lenght, using EVERY single holo name as a tag

>>169998
based

>>169896
>against youtube TOS
source.

>>169998
>Which Uto did at lenght, using EVERY single holo name as a tag
Can confirm, called her last night

>>169701
She's a thief. She stole my heart.

>>168412
Based. Uto did nothing wrong, in fact, she's a genius.

I really love my backstabbing leech tenshi

For tenshi's return stream what do you expect she will do? I hope she does a singing stream.

>>171015
Don't care, I just want her back. Utawaku would make sense though.

>>168412
Based. Dramafags are the worst.

>>169896
Based. Fuck youtube

>>169998
isn't that against youtube tos?

>>172400
No, it is just against the community guidelines.

>>169998
Based, Uto used all of these to game the algorithm
>"keywords":["VTuber","バーチャルメイド","バーチャルYoutuber","ホロライブ","白上フブキ","赤井はあと","ときのそら","ロボ子さん","大神ミオ","夜空メル","大空スバル","夏色まつり","さくらみこ","百鬼あやめ","紫咲シオン","アキ・ローゼンタール","アキロゼ","戌神ころね","猫又おかゆ","がおう","兎田ぺこら","白銀ノエル","不知火フレア","潤羽るしあ","宝鐘マリン","桐生ココ","姫森ルーナ","天音かなた","角巻わため","常闇トワ","Gawr Gura","Mori Calliope","Watson Amelia","Ninomae Ina'nis","Takanashi Kiara","雪花ラミィ","尾丸ポルカ","桃鈴ねね","獅白ぼたん","癒月ちょこ","湊あくあ"]

>>173108
God damn Uto really shoots to kill, including the hostages.

>>169701
Not streaming for three whole weeks?

>>173108
damn this bitch said ill take a number 7 combo and upsize the fries

>Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails: Using the title, thumbnails, description, or tags to trick users into believing the content is something it is not.
I'm not sure how metatags would trick users considering they aren't even visible. I'm inclined to believe they are actually just referring to hashtags. Only way I can see this could apply is if someone searched for Hololive/Hololive members and got her in the search results, but they're not actually that powerful.
>Tags can be useful if the content of your video is commonly misspelled. Otherwise, tags play a minimal role in your video's discovery.

>>173108
Tags do not game the algorithm. They do not even help when people search for videos. Gaming the algorithm is done by having clickbait thumbnails to increase your click through rate along with structuring your stream content to incentivize people to stay on your stream for longer to increase their watch time of of viewers. A viewer who has a high click through rate + watch time for a creator will be consistently recommended their videos (along with community posts) and it start showing the videos to other people with similar interests.
>>173351
Tags are not even used for search results. They are probably only mentioned in the community guidelines because of legacy reasons.

Don't shit on Uto for using search engine optimization

>>170110
>>169896
>To me the only objectively wrong thing she did was abusing the Holo tags (whixh are in no way related to her) to jump into the algorithm, which is against youtube TOS
it isn't really. you could make the case she was being disingenuous or abusing the keywords, but no one clicked on her videos expecting to watch a member of hololive.

>>173351
>>173434
It works because they share an artist. But it was still curious that the YouTube algorithm seemed to promote her so much against HoloEN content. That's why it makes me a bit queasy. Advertising yourself as something your not feels naturally wrong to me. I think a decent amount of the discussion surrounding this will just be based on personal opinions about advertising.

>>173497
from my understanding of the algorithm, the keywords on videos do a little, but the real driver is audience overlap. in Uto's case, since almost all of her audience watched the EN girls, the algorithm started putting her in the recommended of other people that watch them but hadn't watched her.

>>173493
> but no one clicked on her videos expecting to watch a member of hololive
Debatable. She looks just like Amelia, a normie who watches only HoloEN, not familiar with the whole cast, and not reading fresh news and narratives every day, would probably think "oh, cool, new hololive".
But then again, some people think Hololive is a synonym of word vtuber.

>>173690
maybe, but you'd have to argue that she intended to deceive people into thinking she was a member of hololive, which she pretty clearly didn't.

>>173770
>which she pretty clearly didn't.
ogey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg1PEClq5tU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4cFDTZtLzU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF9IORd6QAg

>>168412
Uto is a ruthless business woman

>>174082
People donated to her asking her to do an impressions. She is just give people in the chat what they want.

>>168412
hero bros.....
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMyrPfzGA30

>>174482
The more this guy posts, the sadder I get.

>>169998
>clawed her way to exposure she definitely deserved considering how many people stuck around by abusing the rule book
Based as heck. How can you call it leeching when she didn't steal anything from the corpo chuubas? All she did was breaking arbitrary rules.

>>169643
>The soviet Vtuber is real
I learned something from an uto thread. Suprised

>>168412
>Jesse, it’s like my good old man used to say to me: “If she ain’t fuckin, tell her to start duckin”

>>174082
holy shit didn't realize it was actually this blatant. i thought people here are just drama whoring

>>174082
>>175246
samefag

leech whore

>>174790
>Leechers - People who don't contribute, and use things as their own
>Stealings/Stealers- People who steal
Tell me what do Tenshi bring anything new to the table

I dunno, if Uto’s fine with having mouthbreather EOPs shitting up her chat all the time, who’s to stop her?

>>176292
>She impersonating holo members to the next level, She becoming The Hololive.
Based

>>168412
She got a contract with a company and will be re-debuting soon. I don't know if she keeps the Uto avatar (I hope, her shit eating grin is great) like Suisei or she gets a fallen angel type avatar to use the recent stuff as publicity.

the artwork fiasco doesnt matter
the chinkshit doesnt matter
the leechshit doesnt matter

ABANDONING her fans is 100x WORSE

>>176975
>ABANDONING her fans is 100x WORSE
She didn't.

>>177294
it's been 23 days without streaming and still counting. anon

>>177440
Don't care as long as she comes back, which she alluded to.

>>177469
Me neither. Her anti doesn't enjoy beating a dead horse.

>>168412
more like puto kek

>>177469
She alluded to coming back?

>>178855
She put "brb" in her twitter bio.

>>178883
She's just saying that to milk her memberships for as long as she can until people suspect something

>>179011
ogey

>>179011
Who the fuck is going to renew their membership for a person who doesn't stream? They'll do it if she comes back.

why make a new thread? >>180042

>>169896
>which is against youtube TOS
STOP
SPREADING
MISINFORMATION
it's only against TOS to copy and paste metatags into the video's description because YouTube considers it spam
You can use metatags however you want but you're only breaking TOS by putting those tags into your video's description

>>184786
this is what I get for being a hot-headed retard
I've made an ass of myself

>>184759
EOPs can't into Japanese so cannot find her thread.

>>184937
Anon, this thread is older...

>>173351
>>173434
>>173493
>>175246
It's a bannable offense by youtube's own admission. When she removed the Hololive metatags from her videos the algorithm stopped recommending her alongside Hololive, her daily subscribers went from 35k down to 5k. Uto didn't suddenly change, she was still getting clipped, she was still doing english only streams and she was still talking about / impersonating Hololive members. Uto leeching off the Hololive brand was so shameless that Amelia had to disown her.

Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails (https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801973?hl=en&ref_topic=9282365))

What if she uses a new Live2D? Would some of you forgive her

>>185010
tags have the most miniscule effect on exposure and recommendation

>>185034
Let's continue our conversation from this post >>114298

>>185012
No, I want Tenshi back

>>185102
sure

>>185010
I know you're a retarded anti who keeps posting this shit in every thread, but I'll humor you.
>It's a bannable offense by youtube's own admission.
Proof?
>When she removed the Hololive metatags from her videos the algorithm stopped recommending her alongside Hololive, her daily subscribers went from 35k down to 5k.
It didn't immediately go from 35 to 5k, see pic. It's obvious her growth would slow down. There's evidence that tags aren't impactful.
>Uto leeching off the Hololive brand was so shameless that Amelia had to disown her.
Amelia just addressed a retard who asked her in a SC.
>Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails
See discussion about this in this very thread.

Keep seething and spreading misinfo.

>tfw Uto is the EN Vsinger

Uto will have 1m subs soon without even streaming. This tenshi is absolutely ruthless and unstoppable.

>>185157
Are you saying that Uto content drops quality so bad, Her growth drop to 14% of her last week? or just because she remove the tags?

>>185010
This poster is not me but I'm glad he has the same vision as me.

>>185141
Answer him and I will help him answer you.

>>185190
Now that's the most retarded thing i've read in this thread and that's really something.

>>185318
>>185347
>Answer him and I will help him answer you.
but that was my post you linked
I am he.

>>185347
>Are you saying that Uto content drops quality so bad, Her growth drop to 14% of her last week? or just because she remove the tags?
I'm saying her daily subs going down is a natural progression since after a certain point most of the people who would be interested in her content already subbed to her. Or what, did you expect her to get 35k subs per day forever? How about you show proof that metatags actually would have such a big effect when all evidence points to the opposite?

>>185403
>content drops quality so bad or tags removed pick one or I can't continue

>>185561
>comparing Gura to a jp indie
Even Gura's sub growth slowed down compared to her early days btw.

>How about you show proof that metatags actually would have such a big effect when all evidence points to the opposite?
If you can't answer this part your argument is worthless. It's your assumption (>her sub growth slowed down roughly around the time she removed the tags, it MUST be the tags) vs Google's word, studies and basically every SEO optimization guide/video.

>>185632
>>185403
Are most of the people who would be interested in Gura content already subbed to her?

>comparing Gura to a jp indie
Both use Hololive tags and even Gura don't use that many
>>173108

>a big effect
even I search holos member name on youtube before Christmas eve and Uto stream is above all my oshi clip and yes I think to myself that who is she and watch her stream. You can't change my mind.

>>185632
No matter how you try to spin it, leeching off someone else's brand name is not a positive trait.

>>177013

>>186029
Gura isn't even using them in her last vid. You would think if they are so almighty every holo would always use them.
Also, Gura:
>part of Hololive
>streams in English, much higher reach
>previous channel has 1m subs
>went viral with memes, clips etc. starting from her debut

>even I search holos member name on youtube before Christmas eve and Uto stream is above all my oshi clip
Calling bullshit on that one.
>You can't change my mind.
Okay, just keep ignoring the evidence.

>>185157
so what you're trying to say is that meta tags are useless and violating youtube's guideline is okay, is that it?

>>186422
>meta tags are useless
For the most part yes, and there is plenty of evidence for that.
>violating youtube's guideline is okay
Where did I say that? Also it's debatable whether the tags violated the guidelines, read the thread. But let's say that's the case, what now? She stopped using them, but if you think it's such a big deal report her channel and see if YouTube does something about it I guess?

>>168412
Same. Regardless of what bad things she did, she was by far one of the most entertaining indies because she interacted with chat constantly, which is more than I can say about most vtubers.

Misleading Metadata or Thumbnails: Using the title, thumbnails, description, or tags to trick users into believing the content is something it is not.
This policy applies to videos, video descriptions, comments, live streams, and any other YouTube product or feature.

What happens if content violates this policy
If your content violates this policy, we’ll remove the content and send you an email to let you know. If this is your first time violating our Community Guidelines, you’ll get a warning with no penalty to your channel. If it’s not, we’ll issue a strike against your channel. If you get 3 strikes, your channel will be terminated. You can learn more about our strikes system here.

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2801973

>>186503
>but if you think it's such a big deal report her channel and see if YouTube does something about it I guess?
I'm here after Uto take a brake. I would report her channel next time. 10Q for reminding me

>>186649
What language do you primarily speak?

>>186649
You do you man. But maybe try to find something positive to do with your time.

>What language do you primarily speak?
call me Mr.Worldwide. But you can call Uto an ESL or Seanigger. I don't mind

>try to find something positive to do
I practice my grammar here. So I think time well spent.

>>186785
why is it always ESL faggots that get so pissy about Uto using placebo tags?

>>186827
I don't even hate Uto so I can't answer you. But Utofags are cancer. That's why I'm going against you.

>>186922
what's wrong with Utofags?

>>186933
Do more archive reps anon. I understand him.

>>181464
The deluded fucks in this thread from the looks of it

>>187340
I don't have time to dig through old threads to find out why anon doesn't like Utofags
just give me a quick rundown

>>187580
What reason does someone need who can hate Uto herself?

>>187685
Please try again in better English

>>187829
make me

>>186029
>>186323
It's obvious that the algorithm stopped recommending her alongside the Hololive members, she was popping up in everyone's youtube feed and then it suddenly stopped.

>Uto's fans went from she's Amelia's sister of course she's getting recommended -> there's no proof of her using Hololive tags -> she's an indie its okay for her to leech of Hololive -> Hololive tags had no effect on her growth her channel just plummeted once they were removed for reasons...

>>187829
Oh changchama...