/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16953139
Kek

>>16953139
you gotta chill with some lean my nigga

>>16953139
Japanese police may need more time to consider that. Especially if she refuse to take a drug test.

>>16953139
I can agree that she didn't didn't do anything wrong.

/vt/ holotards are blowing things out of proportion. worst case, shes suspended for a couple weeks. Either way everyone will forget about it and she'll hopefully learn from this.

>>16953139
She feeds the trolls and thinks "owning" the joke makes the situation better.
The situation clearly got under her skin and she's making poor decisions when it comes to dealing with it.
That being said the whole drama in and of itself is some retarded shit.

Dunno, I have to... lean more into researching this.

>the dust has settled

Currently we are having severe visual reduction from all these sandstorm. Please try again later.

>>16953139
>Dust
>Settled
Bro we're in a dust bowl in the middle of a desert

>>16953406
It will subside but wont be forgotten, this will be like an ayame thing now

>>16953139
Wrong timeline detective

>>16953577
heh

>>16953139
She should reacted more professionally. The new akasupa reading rule is prone to get more trolls sperg names.
She could simply say she will completely ignore any message regarding other streamer or other people.

When her roommate is "coming back this month" the dust has not even close to settled

>>16953139
>Hello, ma'am do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Lightning McLean?! Did you know that Lightning McLean is the star of several feature films such as Bars, Bars 2, Bars 3, Mary Janes: Fire and Rescue, Leaning Mori, Toy Story 3, Coco and Ralph breaks the internet? As well as other short film such as Master and the Ghostface, Miss Fritter's Racing Skoool, Television program such as Cars Toons, Pixar's Popcorn Cars series voiced by none other than Owen Wilson?

>>16953139
She responded to a troll.

She tried to excuse that by claiming substance abuse.

If she didn't do anything wrong why did she delete her Reddit comments, apologize, rant on Twitter, backpedal twice, snd then apologize to her mama? All this after having backpedaled on the donating supa money stunt from a previous stream.

>>16953602
if anything, situations like this is probably why cover doesn't give a shit when talents take months off at a time, better no streams than menhera drama

>>16953753
>All this after having backpedaled on the donating supa money stunt from a previous stream.
Aww, I was gonna anti the NAACP.

>>16953406
Yeah just like how the Coco thing was blown way out of proportion

>>16953139
How come a native English speaker doesn't know what "lean" is and what 99% of people assume when seeing that word?
ESL btw.

>>16953753
Because everything is black or white. Either Mori is Satan incarnate and trying to destroy Hololive or completely innocent and blameless.

this thread is looking a bit... lean

>>16953602
What is Ayame thing?

>>16953232
Except that Lean isn't illegal in Japan or the states and Codeien is available over the counter at pharmacies. After that all you need is a trip to the convenience store and you're set.

>>16953938
lurk more tourist

>>16953139
What's going on? I just woke up

>>16953406
>she'll hopefully learn from this.
If you've followed her you know she's going to double down.

>>16953881
Cheers for that!

>>16953995
Nothing.
The dust has settled.
Japanese police will handle the rest.

can someone explain what surgery Mori had as well please? I keep seeing her and twitter people explain thats why she went menhera

>>16954097
probably got the FtM surgery. respect ya boys he/they pronouns!

>>16953821
Coco pissed off an entire country. Mori gave into anti bait a few too many times. Comparing those 2 is moronic.

>>16953946
abusing it is illegal.

>>16953946
Purchasing / selling codeine in the US without a prescription is very illegal. The US hard nerfed most cough syrups due to substance abuse

>>16954097
Shoulder work. Nothing crazy.

>>16954097
She literally went through ""appendicitis"" surgery. make your own conclusions

maybe her roommate isnt real and she just made him up

>>16953995
Here is the whole timeline.
>Mori collabs with TT people
>person from TT named Connor says in his stream that people in hololive are popular not because of talent but because of brand
>https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4
>fast forwarding
>member in Moris stream politely asks her to not associate with these people
>https://files.catbox.moe/lfcm82.png
>Mori insults the members and says that Connor apologised to every holoEN member
>https://files.catbox.moe/75cb93.mp4
>clip of Kiara proof that this was a lie. Kiara hasn't been in contact with any of them
>https://streamable.com/5a8uq2#
>she donates 50 subs to Connor on her brand new twitch account
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
>someone superchats "condom money for Connor"
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/archive/superchat/iJvbxzGh_a4.html
>Mori announces that she wont read superchats anymore
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxTissHo0AM
>keeps talking about the drama on stream
>Mori announces that she will be streaming on twitch semi-regularly from now on
>people even in her youtube comment section are mad to her
>few days later she responds to 6 days old tweet of someone posting a comic of deadbeat getting literally cucked by Connor who is fucking Mori on the picture
>http://web.archive.org/web/20220123054143/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485121754624593924
>even reddit gets mad at her
>she replies to the reddit thread "can I PLEASE just have some fun. Please."
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/sam9io/uhh_calli/htukq15/
>https://files.catbox.moe/lxuexz.png
>she gets downvote bombed
>shortly after she deletes it and apologises and announces break
>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123064719/https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1485136066008944640
>says she "hit the lean hard"
>anons realize she just confirmed getting high with codeine as drugs are rare in japan for someone as her.
>a mixture of Jolly Ranchers, Sprite, and codeine that will get you high asf.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_(drug)
>basically admits drug use
>damage control a bit later
>https://files.catbox.moe/t7oy6q.png
>Connor tweets "easy W"
>https://web.archive.org/web/20220123071557/https://twitter.com/CDawgVA/status/1485137798512652288
Additional
>The guy that made the comic merely did it because TT shat on mecha anime
>>>/jp/thread/S38296847#p38297071

>>16953846
She's lying to cover her ass

>>16954211
please take the easy W off the list. He was talking about his gacha stream that had just ended...

>>16953753
>apologize to her mama
Wait, you mean Yukisame, her art mama, or her real mom?

>>16953984
Don't you have cock to suck?

>>16954304
You've posting the same thing in the last 7 threads.

Deal with it condombeat

I'm the last cuckbeat

she just like to listen to Yung Lean
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1a3JngmpI

>>16953846
I didn't know what lean was, but it's part of black culture and I don't partake.

Why do people like having dust settle? Vacuum that shit up

>>16953139
While what she did wasn't professional and ultimately she shouldn't have done it, yeah she was completely fine. People who are making a big deal out of this need to relax (much like she does to be honest).

>>16954332
away with you reddit nigger
you wont get spoonfed here

>>16954342
wasnt me but its stupid that its on there.

It's nowhere as bad as the reddit tards make it out to be, it's a sarcastic response to a troll that wasn't In great taste yet all the reddit tards and twitter cucks are furious over it lmao

>>16953139
mori did nothing wrong

>>16954168
Quote me the paragraph in Japanese law and what counts as abuse.
>>16954169
Again, Mori lives in Japan where you can get it at a pharmacist without prescription.

All these people hating on Connor
I pull out my scythe and youre a goner
You think I'll let this fly?
Shut the fuck up KUDASAI

Truth is deadbeats I applied as a joke
Woulda quit but was fucking broke
Now that I'm here, might as well milk you dry
Arigato deadbeats GOMENASAI

>>16954570
t.

>>16954596
still a fucking banger

>>16954496
The issue is if you think about it it's Mori approving (as a "joke" of course) art depecting her graphically cucking her own fanbase, it's kind of indefensible and I don't think a single Holo has ever done something like that before.

Getting a bonk seems pretty uncommon in EN but something like that would do it. Probably it's also in context of the fact that she herself has been dredging this up several times the past week and probably ignored warnings/pleas to drop it already since this is all extremely unlike typical Holo protocol to do.

>>16954429
>need to relax (much like she does to be honest).
They need to get high off of cough syrup?

>>16953139
Are you a deadbeat? Posing this board won't help your oshi.

>>16954640
SHE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT COUGH SYRUP
SHE IS USING SLANG TO DESCRIBE WATER
LEAN AS IN DIET
SHE IS SAYING SHE DRANK A LOT OF WATER AND IS OVER HYDRATED SO JUST ACTING KIND OF WEIRD
YOU ARE ALL CRAZY

>>16954602
NTA, but as a dead beat, I fully believe she doesn't understand slang

>>16954619
matsuri/ollie does it and doesnt get bonked or even that much hate, JP just assume she is damaged goods anyways.

>>16954596
the anon who orignally wrote it deserves a fucking medal.
this is better than anything mori ever wrote

>>16954211
I realize you are baiting but Connor tweeted easy W because he was playing crane games

>>16954619
The retarded Connor drama had been stewing for a while and that tweet seemed to be the boiling point. She was emotionally invested and tried to snap back. It was really bad and she has no exscuse but saying shes "approving art depecting her graphically cucking her own fanbase" feels inaccurate.

>>16954822
Matuli/ollie didn't do that kind of thing in the context of a known eceleb transparently grooming her and her having an irrational need to defend him even when he talked shit about Holo.

This would be a bit like if Matuli liked and commented on art of Za Hando fucking her in front of the Matsurisu or something. That never happened and if it did she would have easily gotten bonked, the only reason za hando went unpunished was because it didn't happen on her Holo account so technically is unrelated.

>>16954453
Sneed fag

>>16954211

>>16953139
she did nothing wrong. hololive just needs to drop the idol pretense as it's gotten incredibly old and stale and it's not funny. every fucking famous musician on the planet does drugs, especially a rapper.

>mori calls herself drunk and unprofessional
>yesmen: she did nothing wrong
holy fuck yesmen are even crazier than mori

>>16954715
>slang to describe water
fucking kek
Lean isn't some newfag thing that she says it is. She's been in the rap industry for more than a decade, anon. She knows what lean is.

>>16953984
>I talk out of my ass and won't admit it
don't you have another "it's been x days since ayame streamed" thread to make, faggot?

>>16955051
hi yesman
have you considered watching vshojo instead, they might be trashy enough for you?

>>16953139
doing drugs is bad and cringe

>>16955051
Drug users in Japan are kinda like pedos in the west, very very close to murderer-tier taboo. It is not impossible at all the JP holos might distance themselves from her if they catch wind of mori making a drug reference while getting suspended. Even if that reference actually wasn't the reason at all they might still mistake the connection and slink back.

At the very least a lot of Holo JPs have a naive child-like adoration of her without understanding how lame she actually is and that's annoying, so if this opens any of their eyes that's not necessarily a bad thing as it's kind of dangerous for them to be so detached from reality. Hell it's dangerous for her own fans and the Holo fandom to be so detached from reality that she's been acting kind of ugly/bitchy and not these things aren't all cute interactive anime pets for people to baby.

>>16955051
Not how it works in Japan. They don't want our Western mainstream music culture because so many aspects are considered detrimental to Japanese society and norms that companies don't even want to promote even the tamer aspects. A Japanese actress and singer had to offer a public apology to her management/company and her fans because someone tweeted a photo of her in California holding what appeared to be a joint between her fingers while she was at some party. No laws broken except for social norms and that was enough to almost end her career.

>>16955219
also typo
>and not
*and that these things

Her manager is probably freaking out on her because she backpedaled on her "mistake" and blamed being drunk for the cause of her careless comments, which isn't very professional for someone who works for a company.
She'll definitely need management approval before she do or say anything for the next few months.

>>16955480
shes back on the roomate account with a new manager, never thought this doom would go this far but here we are

so graduation soon? let's gooooooo

She did something wrong. She needs to stop using her Hololive Twitter account when she's wasted.

>>16955612
It’s over. She’s graduating this year. Will she make it to holofes?

>>16955181
Pearl clutch harder.

>>16955612
>shes back on the roomate account
Guess the sandstorm just keeps getting stronger. She's getting better with RTA, this time with the graduation game.

>>16955840
I hope she graduates this month.

>>16955285
I just found vtubers are few days ago. Why the fuck are the en fans acting like creepy jap idol fans.

this is fucking hilarious

is lean a drug? drugs in japan? fucking yab

>>16953139
She went wrong when she reached for the \_EAN when the butthash is free.

>karen gets to go to succubus bars
>calli cant even reply to a shitpost

>>16956011
I legit just pointed this out on a thread that just got deleted.

These are Let's Players with fancy, animated anime avatars. Are the videos good or not? If no, don't watch. If yes, why the fuck do you care about what's going on on Twitter? Shit has NOTHING to do with her content.

>>16956155
Word. I saw a video, thought it was fun, then did something else. At no point did I wonder what was happening with her behind the avatar.

>>16953406
deadbraps...

>>16953482
>That being said the whole drama in and of itself is some retarded shit.
Failing to defend your tribe deserves humiliation.

>>16953139
Has she finally stopped tweeting? Has she finally realized that what she did was absolutely retarded?

>>16954322
Yes.

>>16956155
Nobody's gonna simp a whore

>>16956101
Yes, that's generally what it means to keep things that are roommate and work related SEPARATE and is part of the package deal of being a professional.
>>16956155
>>16956401
Hello tourist newfags. Do enjoy the drama and enjoy your stay (Or not, I'm not your mother).

>>16954794
face it cuck, she either is a poser with a fake personality or a substance/drug abuser

>>16956826
I don't think you know the meaning of either of those words. Or know what I said.

>>16956888
those options are not mutually exclusive

>>16956826
Nigga Mori Calliope is not a real person. It's all a performance to get you to part with some cash.

>>16956886
I agree with your first comment. And thanks I will.

>>16956888
old lore
on both accounts

>>16956886
Thanks for the welcome. I only stopped by to see if someone had posted what went on with Mori. Hadn't really watched much in the way of vtuber content at all before yesterday. Never been on this board prior to this either.

Is the board usually full of simps with obsessive mental disorders? Or does actually interesting shit get posted?

>>16956886
I like my dumb normie oshi the way she is

>>16957272
Of course interesting stuff gets posted, but like many boards that move fast (we're faster than /pol/ sometimes) there's going to be a lot of garbage. It doesn't help that oh boy do we have an active amount of SEA posters and they love to shitpost.
Also yes, but usually they stick to the dedicated threads for each individual vtuber and don't spill out all over the board. Right now you're seeing a perfect storm of shitposting, counter-shitposting and whatnot.

Can't fucking wait for her to go indie. Let her be the vshojo whore she always wanted to be. Can't even be assed to do the bare minimum and graduate without yabs. fuckin wigger

>>16957126
>Nigga Mori Calliope is not a real person
No way dude she's the grim reaper do you even watch her?

>>16957154
Post it. I never saw anything conclusive.

>>16957624
She's not the grim reaper, you stupid fucking manchild.

She's the grim reaper's assistant. That's Mori Lore 101. Are you even a real fan?

>>16957624
>do you even watch her?

Nah son. I was watching the plant/tree(?) and the time lord( I think) with the giant anime tits.

Never thought I'd see 4chan and reddit on the same page. People on twitter are basically calling you guys cucks

>>16957272
I only visit this board when shit hits the fan supposedly. I hate being left in the dark and I often want to know why shit happened.
You unfortunately can't get much actual vtuber context outside here because elsewhere is just a hugbox.

>>16957774
The grim reaper isn't real, touch grass

>>16957828
I feel you. The hugbox shit is real. The forced positivity bullshit sucks all the soul out of most forms of media and makes interactions online feel so constricted.

I was never an active 4chan poster 10 years ago, but at this point, it feels like it's the only place left to talk about shit you like freely.

>>16953846
You know its not a common knowledge if the baiter had to provide a wikipedia link of it

>>16957828
This board is literally a hug box

>>16957774
Can you imagine how embarrassed Death is to be associated with her right now?

>>16958385
>Sees the sea of shitposting in the catalogue
I dunno anon, I don't think you've got quite the right definition of hugbox there.

>>16958385
Deadbeats may be braindead but at least dissent isn't banned over here

>>16956155
>These are Let's Players with fancy, animated anime avatars
And you wonder why people call you faggots. Vtubers, especially the corpo ones are an entirely different thing than "let's players with fancy avatars", you have to be dumb as a brick to even call them that.

>>16958538
I am a singular person. I can not be more than one faggot. What group are you referring to?

They're sitting there, playing through a game, commentating on it. They are literally Let's Players. Their avatars are complex, thereby being fancy.

You can try to put a special spin on it all you want, but they're still Let's Players with fancy avatars. Straight up.

>>16958754
Like all bugmen that have a sociology degree/value opinions of "people" with sociology degrees, you speed on to deconstruct something from it's surface image because you have no touch with the spiritual and it's the only thing you know.

Go dump your trashbin into the sea because "it's just a pool but bigger"

>>16958754
double faggot

>>16954596
i still think she wrote this herself. so cringe, it fits her to the letter

>>16958900
Ah, I'm sorry. I was unaware you had a spiritual connection with the fancy avatars. I'm sorry to offend your religion.

Touch grass.

>>16958991
>touch grass

Fuck you, it's January.

>>16956155
I legit just pointed this out on a thread that just got deleted.

These are Let's Players with fancy, animated anime avatars. Are the videos good or not? If no, don't watch. If yes, why the fuck do you care about what's going on on 4chan? Shit has NOTHING to do with her content.

>>16959046
The cold air will do you some good. Shock you back to reality.

>>16957522
she's not a normie, nor is she one of us. there's a reason people like her are bullied in high school. unfortunately it didn't work with her.

>>16959092
Cold air works well, yeah. When your brain is poisoned though no air or cold water will fix it though.

Exit simulation. Nothing but patches of dirt and sacks of flesh here for you.

>>16959103
you actually think 90%+ of this board werent bullied in high school? and that it didnt work on them?

>>16959103
clearly not bullied hard enough.

>>16955104
you fall for the falseflagger anon

>>16953753
>why did she delete her Reddit comments, apologize, rant on Twitter, backpedal twice, snd then apologize to her mama
fear of being cancelled for making a joke
pretty common these days

>>16959201
nerds have each other so it doesn't have to work on them. she was a loner, so she had to be bullied into becoming a normie but it failed so she never left her cringey emo-phase.

ey whats up bros whats the haps broskis

>>16959317
makes no sense
if she feared being cancelled why did she make those comments in the first place?

This is why I appreciate vtubers who mainly use twitter for announcing streams and upcoming events. There's something about that place makes everyone go retarded with what they type.

>>16954429
>insult your whole fanbase over some white dick
>Admit to taking drugs
>she did nothing wrong?
lmao, the conmans at that cesspool that is TT must be having a field day right now.

>>16956888
>she is a poser with a fake personality
>is an abuser
Wow your little soft findom whore is fake?

>>16959514
It was the response that scared her. The first signs of public backlash. The line that she would need to cross to be canceled isn't clear, so she never knows when she's truly approaching it.

>>16959584
so she's retarded is what you're saying

>>16953984
Dirty indog thread reader cant provide any evidence so he calls other people tourists. Literally all Ayame rrats are fake. If you think that shit is real you are either a fucking imbecile or a tourist yourself.

>>16959620
She's cautious, is what I'm saying. Being canceled as a public figure (especially an online one) and entertainer is career suicide.

>>16958754
They're idols not fart jar sellers, go back to vshojo tourist

Thisthread didn't age well. To all newfags reading this, it was before her latest twitter/reddit replies.

>>16959663
lmao

>>16959684
If you sincerely view people like this as idols, I feel bad for you. They're idols in name only. For all intents and purposes, they are Let's Players. Hate to burst your creepy, obsessive weeb bubble.

>>16959663
with all the defending the deadbraps are doing she shouldn't even worry. its not like these chuds have any clout that could ruin her rep. Kson basically nuked zhangs and shes doing fine.

>>16959663
so cautious she makes passive-aggressive stunts on social media using her corpo account
yeah no

>>16958754
>Let's players practice dance
>Let's players make music
>Let's players perform in concerts
>Let's players create story arcs over career
>Let's players streams karaoke
>Let's player zatsudans
It would have been more accurate if you called them "streamers with avatars" but really, "Let's players" dumb retard? This is meaningless anyway for a faggot who can't even be bothered to lurk more and learn more about stuff before spouting his smoothbrained opinions.

>>16959975
Markiplier and Jacksepticeye are also Let's Players. Doing all of this does not make you not a Let's Player.

>>16953139
She clearly meant it as sarcastic,but that’s obviously hard to convey through Twitter

>>16960047
Wait, does anyone actually think she was unironically praising the art?

>>16953753
What Reddit comments did she delete?

>>16960083
sarcastic or not, replying to that kinda bait just fuels the drama. how does she not know this?

>>16960013
That's like calling the president a manager because they technically manage stuff

>>16960083
There are people on here and on Twitter that seem to think so

>>16960287
Yeah, I agree on that. I'm just flabbergasted to find out that there are actually people who didn't even get that far in understanding the situation.

>>16960311
Look, I get it. You obsess over Let's Players with qt anime waifu avatars. You use them to cope with every day life and get way more attached to them than your average Let's Player. And that's completely fine. You are more than welcome to use them for escapism and idolization.

But at the end of the day, they're Let's Players. A specific genre of them. No matter how hard you try to distinguish them, they will ALWAYS be just that. I am sorry if you can't come to terms with that.

>>16954332
wrong website seamonkey

>>16959826
Zhang was in the wrong and is also subhuman. Mori fucked up, thats the difference.

>>16953139
>3 years later Mori has caused the graduation of half of the EN girls
>Anon - c-can we agree that she didn't do anything wrong?

>>16960452
>they're Let's Players. A specific genre of them. No matter how hard you try to distinguish them, they will ALWAYS be just that
at this point you're just baiting. i can explain shit why they're different but i doubt narrow-minded nigger can comprehend such concept. have a good day and kill yourself retarded tourist

>>16960452
>Doing all of this does not make you not a Let's Player.
holy kek

>>16959584
Mori's first backlash in the Gura Collab even herself admitted that she had "people will always forgive me if I don't prepare or get late" mentality and she got btfo
I Believe now she has the same way of thinking but "People will always stay on my side and call me a Chad"

>>16959576
She was being sarcastic you fucking faggot and you know it, you're being facetious so you can stir shit you cock gobbler. The lean shit is just her being retarded (Too retarded to know what it is, or Too retarded to know that she shouldn't admit to doing that shit, who the fuck knows)

>I can't wait to come back to you this month
What did she mean by this?

>>16960452
>She was being sarcastic you fucking faggot and you know it, you're being facetious so you can stir shit you cock gobbler
Kek, if this is not a falseflagger I am really sorry for you anon

>>16961026
Karens personal jannies infiltrated this board

>>16961026
She has new music releasing at the end of the month, announced awhile back.

She is really so retarded. Connor doesn't give a single shit about her and doesn't care the slightest if she self-destructs while defending him, in fact, any damage done to Hololive is benefitial to him since it could indirectly lead to the vtuber he actually cares about gaining a bigger audience.
But she won't stop, this arrogant wigger has never admitted to being wrong even once during her entire career, she will make excuses, deflect or double down but she won't ever listen to the very people that actually support her and wishes for her best.

I mean, she's been spilling spaghetti all over the place since one dude said CDawg is a dumb shitter not worth her time. It's not a final yab but it's definitely some funny drama that she's basically brought on herself.

>>16961026
finally realizing she doesn't need the shit hololive brought with the fame. she knows connor is right, this corpo shit isnt what she wants

>>16961227
either that or he wants her to lose her audience so she snaps and leaves holo then joins vshojo

As a nijichad watching holobabies tear each other apart over a nothingburger is very entertaining. Keep at it.

>>16960047
It didn't read sarcastic at all. It read like an autistic attempt at brushing it off

>>16961370
LOL

What happened? I've been watching gura this whole time.

>>16961227
Because these whores are usually very ugly behind the voice and cant handle the newfound attention

>>16961370
So /vt/ + antis then?

>>16961024
Sarcastic or not, shouldn't have answered to obvious bait.

>>16961433
keep coping nigga, she clearly doesn't enjoy this shit. why should she stay if her music's good enough. its not like her "friends" over at corpo ever did anything for her.

>>16961403
I can really benefit from having an average nijiniggers amnesiac capabilities

>>16961442
Here
>>16958974

>>16961546
>if her music's good enough
>mori's shit
>good music
Kek

>16961630

>>16961026
Unironically her graduation would be better for both her and Hololive.

>>16961776
Charts dont lie

I don't like Mori, but I can tell you that reddit acted like a bunch of pussies as usual. To the point where Mori begged them to allow her to have even a little fun. And why shouldn't she? She was just trolling some asshole's post by pretending to give a proper critique of the shitty art. Mori isn't allowed to be passive aggressive towards her haters, but Haachama can sing a whole diss rap about an anti and be applauded for it? How's that fair?

>>16961767
I feel bad for deadbeats, unironically. I'm really starting to hate Mori

>>16953753
Reddit comments? I didn't even know she used her reddit account.

>>16962015
Except Haachama's rap had a completely different context

>high out of her mind, can't even keep her eyes open
>sudden mood swings
>dyed her hair in a manhera attack
She is going full mind break, and deadcucks are skimping for this

>>16961630
*braps*

>>16962015
You cannot have any sort of fun with autistic SEAnigs in your fanbase

>>16962146
This, haachama hadn't spent the past week illogically defending some eceleb she shouldn't reasonably have much to do with and then highlighting a meme graphically depicting her cucking her fanbase for him. Pretty sure any JP would be suspended for doing that on her official holo account.

>>16953846
I don't know what lean is either and I live in Atlanta. I'm just white though

How do deadbeats even still exist?

>>16962405
Oh no a joke! How will we ever recover from this???

>>16953139
I've been offline for the past week.
What happened?

>>16962015
And wouldn't you know it, who got the last laugh? The troll got the exact response she wanted, meanwhile Mori has to deal with immense backlash.

>>16953139
JANNIES ARE LITERALLY CENSORING PRO-mORI THREADS
>>16962387
>>16962387
>>16962387
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>>/vt/thread/S16961630#p16961630

>>16962569
No such thing as bad publicity. She'll get even more money because of this.

>>16962453
Copebeats…

>>16961984
The charts talk for "mori" the character's music, not the music itself

>>16962569
eh, backlash is still small, penty of cucks left and people who dont care, the worst part is, shes going to start hating the fans even more and in turn the haters will hate on her even more on an eternal cycle.

>>16959514
YOUR post makes no sense
if people knew what would lead them to being cancelled beforehand, then cancel culture wouldn't exist. Except for some brave autists that give zero fucks.

>>16962559
>>16958974
Hope you choose the correct side anon

What the fuck did she apologize for? Did not see the tweets as l am not terminally online and missed them.

>>16962723
she knew exactly what she was doing
stop with the bullshit

>>16954822
Newfag, Matsuri literally had to post a public apology on bilibili because chinks were mad at her for singing with Rikka and started memeing their wedding

>>16953139
This has got to be one of the most hilarious meltdowns I have ever seen. Suddenly I understand why dramafags exist, the pure catharsis of seeing someone destroy their own career by being a terrible person is just funny. I'd be able to feel sympathy for her if she wasn't going to be eternally supported for the rest of her life by an endless stream of cucks. The fact that she will never actually have to face the consequences of her actions is a little disappointing so I have to get some joy out of her going crazy instead.

>>16962717
No because that would mean the hololive brand is what sells which is what Conner said which you said isn't true?

>>16962559
Side with the good guys
>>16962387

>>16962405
>>16962851
That's what she commented on. She went on to reddit and bitched that "why can't I just have fun?" like the drunk dumbass she is.
She legit got negative downvotes, something I don't think I've seen ANY hololive member manage to pull. Ever. Then the response was deleted, she apologized and now she's going on a 'self imposed break'.

>>16962916
This entire situation is retarded but you and I must have dramatically different definitions of terrible person to think she's done something actually morally wrong.

Stupid, terminally online behavior, playing into the hands of trolls, all true. None of that makes her a bad person at all.

>>16962681
LOL Holo would be wise to fire her after this. She obviously cannot hold herself to their standard

Bunch of fucking retards defending - mori thinking it's OK in America to be a complete degenerate so it should be fine everywhere and in true American fashion, demanding everyone else forget that Japanese culture is why people like vtubers in the first place

>>16959826
Kson is forced to hang with a bunch of 2view nobodies (except pikamee) i don't think that's doing fine

>>16962951
>No because that would mean the hololive brand is what sells which is what Conner said which you said isn't true?
Yes anon, all of /vt/ is me and my thousand proxies. As for connor, I do agree with him for post gen 4 holos, ENs included. Mori is a shitter and would have stayed the same without the hololive brand

JANNIES AND THE JEWDS ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO DELETE MORI:
>>/vt/thread/S16961630
>>/vt/thread/S16961630
>>/vt/thread/S16961630
>>/vt/thread/S16962387
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SHOULD I CREATE ANOTHER THREAD?

>>16963173
She is doing far better than pre-coco days, that should count as fine.

>>16963052
They couldn't even bring themselves to fire the guy that molested Mel. How is this worse?

>>16963045
While I do hold people including myself to a moral standard that is probably extreme, I don't factor morality into the word terrible. I would say most people are terrible, I'm sorry I don't reserve the word terrible for some exclusive class. I was in past times in my life a terrible person as well and did suffer consequences for it, maybe not when I was as old as Mori but probably around that age.

Even if you don't want to call her terrible because it means something special to you, the point is she's not innocent, she brings it on herself which is the fun. Two people can receive hate for a past mistake but it's not funny when it's a person who is trying their best to improve and most past their mistake. Mori will likely not reach a point where she tries to improve herself unless she hits rock bottom in a few years, if she keeps getting propped up for the rest of her life like other e-celebs, then she'll likely never stop being a terrible person.

It would be better for everyone involved if Mori wasn't in Hololive.

>>16963308
They did end up firing him though?

>>16961546
if her music was good enough, she wouldn't be in holo in the first place.

>>16963173
Tomari isnt a 2view you shithead have respect to the og’s

>>16963378
I really don't think it's me holding terrible as something special, it's just not normally how "Terrible person" is used at all.

>>16963045
Being irresponsible and not trying to be better is absolutely morally wrong.

Man if I knew that a tweet from some pink anime girl could instantly grant me not only a law degree but also a complete understanding of japanese culture I'd have spent my twenties differently.
Don't huff the law meme my dudes.

>>16963267
Ogey
Captch: SAYNT

>>16961026
>My agent forwards them to me
She talks like she's Kendrick Lamar kek. Does she seriously have so little self awareness to realise how fucking bad her music and rapping is? Her fanbase are full of people that you saw in that Ina fanbase photo.

>>16963664
What is it used for that doesn't include Calli? Genocide? Maybe it's a new generation thing that it's used for such extreme things. I honestly don't know what your definition could be.

>>16953139
She obviously didn't do anything wrong besides feeding the trolls in 2022, but if anything this situation has proven to me yet again how fake and cringe her whole 'white girl rapper' persona is (as if her not knowing how to pronounce RZA despite being such a big fan of Wu Tang didn't already tell us this)
She feels the need to speak in rapper terms and lingo at all times, to the point where she has no fucking clue what she's talking about. She said she 'hit the lean', thinking that just means being drunk on alcohol, and then spend the rest of the thread backpedaling on it. Using rapper terms despite having no idea what they mean, reeks of an annoying sheltered white girl who only does this rap shtick either because it was forced upon her character or she only learned what rap was like 3 years ago.
Being a modern rapper pretending to be really big into it despite not knowing how to pronounce one of the biggest rapers of all time and not knowing what lean is is like being super into psychedelic rock and not knowing how to say Syd Barrett and not knowing what LSD is. It just comes across as extremely fake and insincere.

>>16963394
This, she doesn't seem to be into the idol business anyways so going back to rap is more appropiate

>>16961952
Sunk costs, she and Cover won't do the right thing even though it would be the best course of action.

>>16963930

>>16953139
This is why Hololive should never ever collab with those literal fags from Holoshitars. Otherwise, they will be even shittier than Nijisanji, especially NijiEn

>>16964014
>The right thing
Get over yourself.

>>16963930
Pretty sure she's not into rap generally but specifically J-Rap and that's just because of some guy she liked or whatever. It's nothing unique to her, it's a stereotype of women for a reason that they are completely surface-level with their supposed hobbies because they are really using those hobbies for a secondary motive.

>>16964010
>>16964014
>prove that antis can get anyone they dont like removed
Then they move on to the next member, and after they leave they move on to the next one and so on. Cant give them an inch.

>>16963755
We thought Calli farting in public was funny at first but it really was the first red flag, she should have graduated years ago

>>16964083
the fuck does this have to do with the homos.
leave my twinks alone

>>16963267
Literal phaggot

>>16963930
Calli being a wigga is the only thing I have against her, as a spic from the Bronx who has another oshi but occasionally watches her streams. If she just sold herself as a singer who can also do raps instead of being a rapper in general she just might be okay.
Also all the mentioning irl 3D friends in a 2D dominated medium, but I'll also chalk that up to her being a naïve white girl.

>>16964083
A collab with the homos would have been many times better than what happened here.

>>16964201
Calli isn't getting any special hate, her response is what created this. Honestly, Coco was the same way for the record so she already proved that. People who intentionally stir the pot are not something a company like Hololive should continue chaining themselves or they'll lose everything. Literally the entire point of being a corpo vs. an indie is as a corpo you are representing a company and thus you don't go creating problems for them and in return they shield you generally.

What we learned today anons is EN management does not exist and does not care what their members do outside of copyright issues.

>>16964201
>MUH CANCEL CULTURE
go back to twitter

>>16964201
Hololive just needs to ban all interactions with anitubers and take away Mori's twitter account for a while.

>>16963930
Calli tripping balls off a 10 strip while streaming would be one hell of a show

>>16964387
That was always obvious, EN is literally run by a Hololive anti who larps as a tranny online.

>>16964345
>>16964271
Fuck off back to your male/Luxiem thread, literal faggots

I want her to lose it
I want her tweeting random letters and her roommate uploading nudes

She did something wrong: she needs to fucking stop being baited by SC

>>16964576

Mori be like

The drama has been way overblown, but she has dug the hole deeper than it needs to be and she knows it.

Not reading this thread. Not a deadbeat & think Calli is annoying, but I respect how involved she is with others in the company at least on the music side.
Shit was definitely blown out of proportion, but she handled it terribly. Really should have left it at a "we have some differing opinions about Hololive, but are still friends" or something of that nature. Getting involved in drama bullshit isn't worth it outside a cynical attempt to bait in viewership,and that just baits in dramaniggers (who are the people raising hell right now & aren't worth it)

I went to sleep and I'm just getting a grip on what happened >>16958974
Retarded deadbeats were praising Mori for "ownin' da haterz" but I always fucking knew that she was going to shit the bed hard if she kept going on with this drama. Well surprise, the antis ended up getting the best of her while fans are disappointed
Seriously, why can't Mori imitate someone like Gura? Gura doesn't involve herself in social media shenanigans and she also avoids e-celebs
Well, if I'm honest I think that Mori is finally doing the right thing by taking a break to clear her mind (unless she somehow manages to have more yabs). It's the Connor arc with Ollie all over again and I called that it would end like this

>>16963930
>insincere
Whether right or wrong, that about sums up all of mori's shittiness

I think the full extent of Mori's menhara has been realized at this point, she's said enough to show much of a naive, impressionable girl she was before, and still is today. I hope Ame knocks some sense into her.

>>16964632
Holoshitars look like they're about to die. No one gives a shit about them, just like Niji faggots and Luxiem

How long will her suspension be?

>>16964862
At least they'll die, on the other side you will keep being a cucksimp for a texas girl that believes she's a rapper.

>>16964888
Until i kill myself. Wish me luck.

>>16964939
They'll die being forgettable faggots who can't be relevant without female VTubers. You should join them you fucking homo

Where is the art

>>16964769
dude just shat on the company you're a fucking part of, she should've just shut the fuck up. nobody cares if they're still banging behind the scenes

>>16964888
>suspension
Putting too much faith into Omega lol.

She uses your superchat money to buy illegal drugs, and should be put in prison

>>16964888
nine months after our baby comes out

>>16965125
>>16964632

>>16953139
She's a dumbass that let a troll superchat get to her.
Yes, she did something wrong: she handled it unprofessionally, showing that you want to rile her up, attack her friends through her.

>>16963180
>>16963267
ratio

>>16965319
I saw that post and thought it was way too weak for her to respond.

I'm seeing anons saying suspension? And some drawing with Connor fucking Calli and she getting downvotes on Leddit? Wtf is going on?
How the fuck is something so small blowing up like this? All she had to do was either ignore it or play it cool with the cuckbeats, you know deescalate. Instead she went ham. LMAO

>>16964421
ratioed

>>16953482
She was drunk or high and decided to use twitter. Neither thing is bad on its own, but the combination of both.

>>16953139
Mori, I kneel

>>16965689
ratio'd

>>16964725
She is the drama, without her there wouldn't be any at all. People talking shit about her on here or similar places isn't drama. Mori has never actually read anything posted here about her, if she had she'd have killed herself. What she did do was create drama in those places where nobody else knows what's said here either.

>>16958538
>Vtubers, especially the corpo ones are an entirely different thing than "let's players with fancy avatars",
Absolutely delusional.

>>16965752
The existence of twitter is objectively a net negative for humanity.

>>16965689
i think the saying "thou protest too much" applies here. Her going full retard means she really is fucking connor lmao

>>16965689
Being a dumb drunk makes you do DUMB DRUNK THINGS
More news at 11.

>>16959975
LilyPichu does all of that and she is just a streamer. She also has been around longer than most of these corporate whores.

>>16953846
I literally just had to Google it to understand wtf you guys were talking about.

Ultimately, it comes down to this: Workaholics burn down.

>>16965689
They are literally making shit up.

>>16953846
I don't know what lean is.

>>16966081
>LilyPichu
But she's a bigger, more successful whore than Calli

>>16965689
she's a lost cause, gura. she will forever be the seething wigger

>without Gura, Mori would be the face of holoEN
chumbuds, I kneel.

>>16966081
wasn't it confirmed that she was a literal escort?

>>16966081
LilyPichu isn't an idol

>>16966131
The suspension is made up.
The 'drawing' is a meme from Rent a Girlfriend regarding getting cucked, with Calli, Connor and a deadbeat in place of other characters.
Her getting downvoted on reddit for making a dumb comment about why she can't just be a dumb bitch on twitter on her corporate account is real, but it's been deleted as damage control

>>16966362
She looks like a gremlin.

>>16966081
Yes. And she is not a "Let's player" as your vocabulary deficient brain insists (if it was you) which the argument was about. And just like twitch whores have an insider culture that is different from normal streamers (I assume), vtubers, atleast the jp ones most certainly have a different insider culture going on.

she lives in japan, and admitted to using illegal drugs.
chances she is arrested?

>>16966418
She literally was in a fictional anime idol group for a short while. If anything she should sue Hololive for stealing her schtick.

>>16966362

>>16966494
>And she is not a "Let's player"
She literally had posted let's plays on her YouTube and streams games on Twitch.

>>16966530
retard

>>16966530
>If anything she should sue Hololive for stealing her schtick.

Shitty bait is shitty.

>>16965971
Blame yourself if your retarded brain can't understand the difference

>>16966505
None since she is white.

>>16966505
Very high
Jitomi Monoe got instantly fired for using weed

>>16966654
>This timeloop again

>>16966624
LilyPichu became famous 10 years ago. She predates both AI Channel and Nyanners.

what does tourist mean

>>16966850
you

>>16966592
Holy faggot, stop being a fucking retard. Streamers who are focused on streaming games are "let's players". Those who use games as a crutch to generate entertainment but not having the "gaming" as their main form of it are different. If you can't see the difference kill yourself and help humanity get rid of some shit genetics

>>16966644
There is no difference and you know that.

>>16966829
Ok, and?

>>16966908
Stop projecting your retardation

>>16966362
She didn't look decent before she got her jaw fixed, she got stuffed by various people in the LoL scene still though

> Stop projecting your retardation

Mori did nothing wrong. Her responding to the cuckbeat comic is funny as fuck. People sending her hundreds of dollars to cry about something an anituber said is also hilarious. What he said is not even wrong look at holocouncil.

>>16956064
cultured aris enjoyer

>>16966362
the escort field is full of narcissists

>>16953846
Didn't know until now, don't follow rap or black culture even remotely. I'm surprised how many anons are making posts like this when it's clear there's a massive split in terms of familiarity

>>16967214
>nothing
>backpedals and doubles down
loool

>>16967011
You are the one watching corporate streamers thinking it's something unique.

>>16963755
If you're going to have a cap of that at least get the version with the public ban.

>>16958974
>Connor tweets "easy W"
As someone who's not into vtumors but likes the anitubers, he literally uploaded a video that day where he beat his way at soba challenge.
Funny drama tho.

>>16966916
That streamers with an Asian squeaky voice doing marketing for corporations is not something that Hololive invented.

>>16953846
99% of people simply googled the term to discover it has implications of narcotics. Calli is a wigger so she casually threw that phrase out while drunk.

>>16967858
LilyPichu didn't invent it either
niconico predates her

>>16967967
>99% of people simply googled the term to discover it has implications of narcotics.
retard

>>16967967
>tweets from people asking why she'd mention that before she said she used the wrong word
If you say so.

>>16968025
Proper game streaming wasn't s thing until Justin TV, with guys like Destiny pioneering that type of content.

>>16968253
That's how a sequence of events works, yes. Calli tweets out "lean", people google what "lean" means, and promptly respond to her post worried that she's openly posting about doing drugs in Japan.

>>16968306
What do you mean proper? I know at least one popular letsplayer group that predates destiny.

Can someone tl:dr me, saw the deleted tweet about how she called her viewer cucks, I know next to nothing about le hololive vtuber fad, but this shit seems pretty interesting, also is she is a drugie? Connor is lucky to tap that

>>16969135
just read the thread

>>16969017
Let's plays are older than streaming. But online game livestreaming was something that kicked off with StarCraft 2 and League of Legends. Before that I think the main predecesor were Brood War TV broadcasts in Korea.

>>16953139
She made the dumb decision to reply to a troll post, that's on her.
Everything else seems to be pure hyperbole.