/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16953853
He supplies her with codeine and weed.

>>16953853
she has a fragile ego and a bad brain

>>16953885
FPBP

>>16953853
She's his friend and has a history of being loyal to abusive people claiming to be her friend.

>>16953885
based
she is too hooked to give up now

>does things out of spite
>tries to act tough but is prone to hissy fits and is thin-skinned
There's a reason she has so many stories about getting bullied

>>16954000
so she's basically just being a retard

>>16953885
This

>>16953853
>bEcAusE hE is MuH fRiEnDO
t.mori

>>16953853
Does he live in japan too?
Is this an accidental racism where he's the only person whose actually a friend to her because they're both white in a non-white country?

>>16954000
The more I learn about the actual personalities of people that base their whole identity around how they were bullied as a kid, the more I think "...yeah, and you probably deserved it"

>>16953885
/Thread

>>16953853
Coco protect her friends from chink

You should understand now

>>16953885
And coom

>>16954159
She has female friends she could have spent time with.

>>16953853
She had sex with him.

>>16953853
She's being blackmailed because he knows about her drug addiction.

>>16953853
>Hello, ma'am do you have a minute to talk about our lord and savior Lightning McLean?! Did you know that Lightning McLean is the star of several feature films such as Bars, Bars 2, Bars 3, Mary Janes: Fire and Rescue, Leaning Mori, Toy Story 3, Coco and Ralph breaks the internet? As well as other short film such as Master and the Ghostface, Miss Fritter's Racing Skoool, Television program such as Cars Toons, Pixar's Popcorn Cars series voiced by none other than Owen Wilson??

>Mori says something on Twitter
>Things get worse
>Conner says nothing
>Nothing happens

>>16953885

>>16953853
What's funny is that just 1 month ago Deadbeats claimed Mori really didn't know Connor that well and he probably wasn't her friend because she would have enough sense to know how scummy he is.

>>16953853
She thinks they're friends lol

>>16954411
>Mori tries to damage control for her friend
>Friend leaves her to die
Mori about to go Vice Ciry

>>16953853
Connor, and by extension the wider TT/Vshojo clique, are her meal ticket to break into the western eceleb circles when (not if) she finally ditches that (in her mind) cringe corpo anime girl persona, drops Hololive and tries to prove to people (mostly herself) that she can totally make it as her own and people didn't just show up for the big tiddy anime avatar. She's in for a rough awakening, but if that doesn't work out, she can always appear on her TTfriends podcast and do episodes about "ex-vtuber EXPOSES the dark side of the industry!" and badmouth Hololive and Japan like her salty expat drinking buddies always do, in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.

>>16954491
It's fucking Twitter, she isn't going to die.

>>16953853
They're IRL friends so she's trying to cover the cimbalom with a napkin.

>>16954519
Of course not, she'll take over for the Lance Vance of Trash Taste any moment now

>>16953853
They're friends, and probably one of her few english speaking friends living in Japan, I know that the english youtubers living in Japan have their own community there so they can talk with each other so they can feel less lonely since not all of them are fluent in Japanese or even comfortable enough to have Japanese friends.
What's so stupid about her and the whole Connor thing is that she could just either ignore the anti's bait or talk things out with Connor in the background and make peace with each other, instead of publicly defending him as if that would make him like her more.

>>16954510
shame that those buddies are barely acknowledging her so once the day comes, she'll be doing it alone

>>16954510
>She's in for a rough awakening
You underestimate the number of doxxbeats out there.

>>16953853
Did connor even know about any of this ?

>>16954613
yes

It'd be real nice of Connor to stick up for his friend and actually apologize for his public comment publicly, wouldn't it? It'd be pretty scummy to stay quiet, wouldn't it?

>>16954649
>"Friend"
t.

>>16954649
Oh he's doing a 30 minute video but easily summarizable in 3 minutes on youtube about it and it's gonna be filled with ads.

>>16954587
Even Kson is dropping like a stone. Todays meme review has less than 50k views. Ksons former fanbase were MUCH more dedicated than the Deadbeats are, I think it's delusional to think they'd follow and stick with her for more than a few months. Maybe if all she does is produce music and skips streaming entirely.

>>16954587
Do you think people are watching Jump King for her?

>>16954580
I'd kneel if she went up against Connor on his crane game series as her other persona.

Because now she realizes theres more money being an indie while leeching to the trashtaste / vshojo crowd than being held back by a corporation and idolfag unicorns

>>16954587
the thing is those "fanbase" has no loyalty. They're just bunch of zoomers who only follows what's hot at the moment to fill their daily dopamine addiction. They will sub to her and leave her once they got bored of her.

>>16953853
She hates idol culture and is rebelling against anything that restricts her freedom. She has my support, unicorns can go pick a different oshi.

>>16954816
>i support cuckolding

>>16953853
because they are friends? LIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE.
guess shes gonna be the first to quit holoEN

>>16954587
her other channel barely gets any traffic even though a lot of her fans already know of it.

people dont care about the person, they care about the character they play. sad but true.

>>16953853
Typical Masochist.

>>16954816
does that freedom include defending garbage that trashtalk and belittle her coworkers and the very thing that make her pathetic existence relevant in the first place?

>>16954816
I don't care about your oshi but there's a chance that whatever fuckery Mori's doing is going to affect my oshi - especially if the management on EN's side gets tighter because of her dumbassery.
If she wanted to play le meme rebel edgy rapper she should go become an indie.

Would she go this far if it would happen to her gen mates?

>>16953885

>>16954835
Connor will apologize publicly if they are.

>>16954816
>She has my support
Cool. Do you think she has Cover's support?

>>16954912
Agreed

>>16954914
Did she stick up for Ina when she over-roasted Deadbeats and by extension the entirety of the Vtuber fanbase?

Most of this shit could be solved if Connor just made a 1 min video apologising for what he said. I don't care if he meant what he said or not, but he needs to speak up. Them both being stubborn and doubling down isn't a good look

>>16954914
You know the answer.

>>16954644
mori confirmed had an abortion uhhh guys!?

>>16954816
>Rebelling against the culture that gave you instant success and pulled you out of a fate of being a mediocre wage slave
Go ahead, Mori. Do it. Leave Hololive for your "creative freedom". You'll burn through your superchat money on $1,000 hats and shoes within 2 years and will be right back to square one

>>16954644
Nice try faggot, that was for Ludwig. Connor doesn’t give a shit about this, mori is just digging the hole herself.

>>16955050

>>16954510
I completely agree with you except for the rough awakening part because all her fans are doxtards to begin with and none of them are here for anime idols, they're just here for her - meaning they'll also follow her.

>>16955026
I think Mori genuinly believes people love her for her personality and music. She sadly let the holo fame go to her head and it shows.
If she quits and loses that avatar she'll go back to being an irrelevant wigger in 2 weeks.

>>16954961
Lol that is the perfect way to drag this shit on even longer. The right thing to do was to ignore it.

>>16954816
>Join group of people with a specific culture
>Im going to destroy this culture instead of leave it for something I like because I want to be part of the community but only if it acts exactly like I want it to
Being a rebel in a community you can easily leave (unlike lets say, a racial group or country) is retarded. Just leave and join another clique.

>>16954843
>her other channel barely gets any traffic
Because there's no activity. People look at Mori as the current main.

>>16955026
It sounds familiar.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAOljIgl58

>>16955138
He's a goddamn youtuber, he'll milk this drama for WEEKS

>>16955091
They won't follow shit, if they did her roomate Twitter would have way more followers. No one gives a shit about the real Mori, they like the cute reaper
Acting like a cool rapper girl is only cute when you're an anime girl

>>16955082
Lol, try again. I was watching Connor and Ludwig compete with each other which is why I know, i didn’t watch mori’s unarchieved karaoke or know about her tweet, I learned about it here. Did you think I was a fan of mori? Lol, ame and gura are my favorite in myth.

>>16954649
>" friend"

With ecelebs, everything is always transactional. That's how they play the game, their priority is relevancy, actual friendships don't exist, it's always just "what can this person do for me?", i.e. mutual boosts or even notoriety through drama.

Mori is just Connor's/TT's way of worming themselves into the Hololive universe and leech off their massive fanbase. That's why they're even bothering with her at all in the first place, you think they'd even care for her if she was just DD the 2view ngmi struggling artist instead of Mori Calliope the 1.9 mil Vtuber from the most popular agency in the world?
But don't be sad for her being "exploited" or whatever, it's mutual anyway. Hololive was always just a stepping stone gig for Mori anyway, she's not a cultural fit and detests it, her goal is just using that to amass the necessary clout to be admitted into her actual dream goal, ingratiating herself into the circles of her favorite western ecelebs.

>>16955138
Actually the perfect way to attract attention is to publicly make a statement like "Yes, I had sexual relationships with Mori Calliope" or something like that. Imagine the sheer amount of drama this will cause

Kinda dumb that what Connor said was just a generalization. And that somehow made the shizos/purityfags/idolfags twist it like the illuminati taking of the world. Ending up with shizos eating it up and sending shitty SCs.
Mori should have just ignored it.

>>16955162
If people love her music all that much those shitty old songs would have jumped in views too. They never did. It's not about the music

>>16955178
Then why isn’t he mentioning it? He ain’t nux Taku. Even if he was planning too, garnt wont let him, garnt is smart enough to know that this would be bad for trash taste if Connor drag this shit further.

mori clearly thinks that the 'idol culture' part of vtubing is stupid and she's chomping at the bit to break all the established rules. i bet she wants to become one of the first vtubers to openly declare that they're in a relationship. she probably wants to normalize that kind of thing, and her ideal future is a future in which female vtubers can speak publicly about having a boyfriend, and still have huge fanbases that flood them with superchat money

>>16955309
they all did though. you can also check the numbers of her spotify from the wrapup image she posted, numbers most musicians only dream of.

>>16955343
Its called vshojo buddy

>>16955343
see
>>16955160
Why join something just to destroy it?

>>16954961
The only thing Connor publicly apologizes for is being white

>>16954914
hahaha no.
She doesn't talk with her genmates often, and has been called "distant" several times. If any of her genmates was engulfed in drama, you'd be lucky if Mori even cares enough to know what's going on (let alone defend them), seeing as how she can't even be arsed to show up on birthday celebrations (but somehow always finds time to drop by some non-Hololive eceleb streams, shows where her true priorites lie)

>>16955335
Anyone who's watched more than 20 minutes of Trash Taste where they aren't inanely arguing about poop or food would know this. They all hate dramatubers lmao

>Be J-Chad
>Leave for one (1) day
>This
I feel sorry for her

>>16955099
Ironically, that would prove Connor right about Hololive.

>>16954510
She has made the mistake of thinking them as "friends" and not "mutual beneficiaries". Whoo boy.

>>16954914
I wouldn't be surprised if, between Connor and Kiara, Mori blames Kiara for all this.

>>16955491
To be fair, he always was right with that take. The connotations can be considered extremely rude, but it is factually correct.

>>16955531
chimkin just cant stop losing

didn't mori originally apply to hololive as a joke?

>>16953885
Smart & right answer

>>16955491
Thats the funniest part. If she leaves and her popularity tanks than it really was just the brand keeping her afloat (unlike coco). Proving connors point in the end.

>>16955091
Don't get me wrong, I agree that she probably has enough ride-or-die cuckbeat simps that would follow her so that she doesn't have to go back to her pre-hololive minwage squalor life. But she's not gonna be the same 2mil subs / 5figure ccv popular as she was in Hololive. She'd be lucky if she can take maybe a tenth of her audience with her.

>>16955343
>i bet she wants to become one of the first vtubers to openly declare that they're in a relationship
Even a lot of JP indies already did that

>>16955565
Yes. She has admitted this herself.

>>16955565
someone posted a link to the audition in a group chat, but it was meant for someone else. She saw it and decided to try out too

Mori, if you are here then here is an advice for you. Hang out with sydsnap more and if you have a chance, talk to garnt and ask for his advice on how to deal with this. Don’t ask Connor, the dude is a dumbass. Garnt been on YouTube long enough and he managed to keep himself dramafree for all these time so use him.

>>16955431
because it's not just that they don't believe in those rules and restrictions, and don't want to be held to them. they want to destroy them, so that no one has to be held to them. it happens all the time, outsiders with minimal interest in a given scene barge into it anyway and try to fundamentally change the way things are done, because it's offensive to them. then they just move on to the next thing. they don't even look back to see what ends up happening to the thing they worked so hard to change, so oftentimes they're not aware that the thing ends up dying or falling into obscurity as a result of what they did to it

>>16955556
No he was wrong. He directly stated that they dont need to be good streamers to be successful in Hololive. Thats blatantly incorrect and is actually more relevant when said about Hime Hajime of Vshojo who didnt stream at all for months after her debut, and only got in because of Gigguk nepotism.

>>16955491
Not a single corpo is excluded from it. No one would join a corporation or even a group if it added no 'undeserved' value to you as an individual streamer.

>>16953853
You know why.

>>16955756
My oshi is very popular and she's an awful streamer.
t. a dead beat

>>16955343
>she wants to become one of the first vtubers to openly declare that they're in a relationship
bit late for that considering there's multiple who have talked about being married on stream

>>16955756
>Gigguk nepotism.
How would that work? he is not even in vshoujo. I am pretty sure they wanted to leech off him and have him promote them by letting his wife in.

>>16954290
>Inb4 she drags IRyS into drug abuse

>>16953853
I got a question while I try and do my reps.
Who the fuck is Connor and why is he in Vtuber Circles? IIRC he's done shit with Ollie and the Vshojo too.

Who the fuck is Connor and why are so many of you fags familiar with it?

>>16955846
I'll actually fly to Japan and find her to beat her ass if that happens

>>16955756
yeah, it always struck me as incredibly ironic that he criticized new hololive members and how they find automatic success just for joining hololive, and meanwhile literally 100% of hime hajime viewers watch her because she's garnt's girlfriend. it's certainly not because of her talents as a vtuber. if you were to ask them about this though they'd probably say some bullshit like hime hajime is a social experiment that proves his point

>>16955808
He specifically singled out Hololive is my point. His statement is generally "correct" for any corporation, but he is targeting one company based on personal spite. In reality, there are 2 ways of getting into a big company. Talent and merit, or nepotism. Vshojo runs far more off nepotism than Hololive.

>>16955846
So that's what those tea parties were about...

To be honest, I 100% wouldn't be surprised if there were times that Calli did thought being in vshojo was far more appealing to her than being in Hololive, given how she is friends with Connor + how much attention she's given the whole shitshow, as well as having collabed with IronMouse. There's no way in hell she hasn't noticed the difference in how all the shit she gets from people for collabing/interacting with Connor as a hololive member vs. how nobody gives a shit about the constant collabs Mouse and Connor does together, and how it's even welcomed by that side of the fence.

>>16955091
DYRB?

>>16955864
He is a YouTuber that a lot of girls lust after, he is basically vox of luxiem. He did black butler parody back in the day and Ollie was a massive fan of his.

>>16954914
Unlikely that she'd make the effort.
Reminder.

>>16955882
His youtube videos are alright but his off the cuff comments and unscripted personality are atrociously retarded

>>16955816
i'm not aware of any in hololive. maybe in nijisanji, but that group has so many literally-whos that are irrelevant to vtubing on a greater level

>>16955964
Holy fuck the Enthusiasm Arc. Really takes me back...

>>16953885
He's the whitest man in Japan, he doesn't know what drugs are

>>16955902
>personal spite
Take your meds
He singled out Hololive because he was talking to a vtuber and giving a topical example.
Anyway, his point was never about "getting into a big company", it was about the fact that, once you're in, you have a better starting position, regardless of whether you made it in by being a good streamer or by being a rapper, artist, comedian, whatever

>>16955964
seeing this one out of context is so shitty because she specifically did all of this because her collab with gura was so bad

if this had been a collab with a genmate immediately following that it would've been the same, as she proved with everything she did from then til now

>>16955957
>he is basically vox of luxiem
He's really that good, or do you mean just a lot of girls thirst after him and not the talent part?

>>16955343
Ah this might explain why she's trying to do "guerilla" streams on Twitch and why she's willing to defend Connor to the last breath. Calli must've seen how VShojo is faring these months and she might want a fanbase like theirs.

>>16955343
Noble, but quite unfair to the actual people in this culture that subjected themselves to the rules to chase a very specific dream.

>>16955476
>hello j-chad?
>yeah boss *cough* what's up?
>check mori's twitter!
>*cough* wha-? But im on a bre-
>CHECK.MORI'S.TWITTER.
>okay..*cough* geez..
>*check twitter* oh god...
>Excatly. Nice working with you. Goodbye.
>b-but! I- ..!
>*TUT..TUT..*

>>16955882
If you know Ironmouse you have no choice.

>>16955235
It will be a Kson effect. If and when she definitely declares she's going, all her fans will follow. Kson didn't have a third of her fanbase until her graduation announcement

>>16956112
He means that he's got that voice women cream themselves over
you know, the youtuber voice

>>16955756
>Gigguk nepotism.
>in VShojo
Ogey.

>>16953885
Oh fuck... best friend... It's all make sense now

>>16956204
Oh, like Markiplier.

>>16956204
He's just got a golden voice. Gotcha.
I've watched some of Vox's streams and he's genuinely entertaining to watch. But I'll take a stab and say all Connor has going for him is his voice.

>>16956112
Vox has talent? What is it? I thought all he got going for him is the voice.

>>16954399
Replace Owen with connor

So basically, her entire image as a tough rapping tomboy or whatever has been completely assraped beyond recognition, has it not? Chances she comes back from break as a submissive soft-spoken gfe waifu whose only duty is to serve as hentai material? I'm thinking about 100%

>>16955587
To be fair, that's likely still enough to do decently. Especially since she could probably find ways to milk more money out of them as an indie.

>>16955343
Based

>>16953853
Its really both strange and sad how much she comes off as desperate for this TT crowd when she has seen and has been shown they and the people they hang with are not good people. Even going as far as lying about it to members (and having Kiara full on say that its bullshit). Does she sincerely believe that TT and their followers are going to save her once she jumps ship? Maybe at first, hell maybe she'll get an initial spike when she gets her "HOLOLIVE EXPOSED" rant (which probably wouldnt happen thanks to NDAs), but after that where is she gonna go? Back to sub 500k in 6 months compared to 1M in less than 3 weeks for her music? Does she ACTUALLY believe anyone gives a fuck about the person? Its not like we have many examples of this sure, KSON doesnt count because she was much MUCH more beloved than Calli at the point of her departure. If she does just up and run, I hope the best for her because she'll need it.

>>16955922
Do you think Calli has terrible chemistry in collabs, though? I don’t think she can actually perform well in social situations, she’s kind of a huge dork. Wouldn’t she be the odd one out in a lot of other companies?

>>16956371
>image as a tough rapping tomboy
t. HoloJP mem

>>16954835
I have a friend who liked trash talking the tough guys back at high school. I never once defended his retardation when he was getting beat up and we’re still good friends now.

>>16955668
>Mori, if you are here then here is an advice for you. Hang out with sydsnap more
Mori if you do this then please also get her to tell her granddaughter Hime to stream. I'm experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

>>16954776
Normie come and leave, but unicorns stay

>>16956174
Omegatrad

>>16955587
If she graduates, moves to Twitch, and gets atleast 5K-8K CCV full of deadbeats, she can actually make a living while still in Japan (although let's be real, the moment she graduates, she's deported from Japan).

>>16956371
>her entire image as a tough rapping tomboy
She had that image for like 2 months. People. that actually watched her stream learned quickly she was le dorky bullied theater kid type.

>>16954912
Mine too

>>16955491
He is not wrong, except for putting all Holomembers in the same bag when earlier gens had a rough path. He is right since gen 5 to now, but it was still a very rude way to say that, even Mouse called him out for this.

>>16956439
>TT crowd when she has seen and has been shown they and the people they hang with are not good people.
Any example? Connor doesn’t count since he is retarded.

>>16955178
yah, like he's doing right now right? mf hasnt said anything and for the best, expect retards like nux to do that shit

>>16955922
>how nobody gives a shit about the constant collabs Mouse and Connor does together, and how it's even welcomed by that side of the fence.
Part of that is because anyone who would be mad at that has been filtered out ages ago. They stream together a lot.

funniest thing about this entire yab for me is that NONE of the other EN girls are standing up for her. All that EN family crap was bullshit and no one wants to touch this with a 10 foot pole. It's hysterical

>>16956572
If she does graduate and move to Twitch, she'll 100% have an in to the vshojo fanbase through IronMouse who'll no doubt welcome her with open arms

>>16955491
I fucking hate clip watchers like you so fucking much. It's so fucking clear that you have 0 fucking idea on what hololive is and just spouting shit based on your mouth. Hololive members got popular because of what they can bring to the chemistry of the entire branch on top of her personal talent. If you leave Hololive, it would be fucking obvious that one of the biggest part that makes you popular in the first place will be gone. Even fucking Aqua with her Sololive shtick is still entirely dependent on her relationships with Shion, gen 2, Subaru, Nene, Marine, etcs. Shut the fuck up if you know nothing about this.

>>16955262

>>16956352
He's got pretty solid leadership ability and being able to read the room and what chat wants beyond them screaming while at the same time wrangling the tards. Also pretty decent at zatsudans.

And feel free to rrat on his voice here.
https://youtu.be/AwYgMTTR_8g?t=8761

>>16956000
>but his off the cuff comments and unscripted personality are atrociously retarded
He does waaaay too much of this >>>16955435 for my liking. Not even white, but when someone is so cucked that they can't stop apologising for being what they are every 5s on stream, it gets old. One of the many reasons I stopped watching that podcast of theirs was because this guy in particular had to interject woke progressive shit into convos that had nothing to do with it. You'd notice Garnt thinking "oh shit here we go again" and the pathetic one, Joey, just flip flopping opinions between the two.

>>16955431
Ask Marine or Haachama.

>>16955021
problems arose because one retard wouldn't shut the fuck up, talking more would definitely help

>>16956679
They are just doing what Mori would do.

>>16955846
IRyS hasn't been taking time off streaming lately, has she?

>>16956630
Every subsequent generation up until arguably council, has had absolutely stacked resumes to the degree that holos from the earlier gens talked about how they wouldnt even have been looked at if they applied for gen 5, 6 or myth.

>>16956711
Unfathomably based

Reminder that any drama that doesn't extend past /vt/ is just schizo shit.

>>16955343
Tl dr
She wants to be a Vshojo whore in HoloEN

>>16956754
my man Mori went to twitter and reddit to cry about this, it's way past just /vt/ drama

>>16956720
his audience is filled with gay and 'woke' people on twitter, no shit

>>16956684
Exactly, her vtubing career is still not over and she partially gets that fanbase she longs for although she maybe earning less due to being less popular.

>>16956699
Are you an ESL or just retarded? Go read the comment I replied to and then reread what I said.

>>16956679
what could they possibly ever say that would help this. saying shit is the entire problem. everyone shutting the fuck up and pretending none of this ever happened is the only path forward for any of them unless they want to be mired in this shit til theyre forced to graduate

>>16956754
Youtube
Twitter
Reddit
/vt/

Twitch eventually.

>>16956724
If you honestly equate moris tailspin to haachama and marine making jokes you should join the army your thick skull is bulletproof.

>>16956827
If only Mori herself would learn this.

>>16956816
majority of her fans will be gone after 2 months if she loses the pink reaper avatar and no way Cover lets her keep it

>>16956851
gura, if you're /here/ show her this, thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgWHrkDX35o

>>16956679
>She doesn't bother to wake up earlier to congratulate Ame o for her birthday in the correct stream
>Lied blatantly and left Kiara in a weird situation where she denied being in contact with TT, basically unmasking Mori by accident
>REEEE WHY IS NOBODY DEFENDING ME???

>>16956720
Im both of those yous lmao. He's just an average brit. Theyre absolutely fucked nowadays.

She's pregnant with Connor's child because she spent the condom money on wine instead. Her ass is fat and she's flying off the handle because of pregnancy hormones.

>>16956854
just get a magenta reaper avatar and name it Cori Malliope

>>16956827
they tried shutting the fuck up about it, but people kept spreading shit about Connor being a hololive hater in every thread and about how he doesn't apologise. It's time to just swallow your pride, make some fake apology and move on

>>16956844
Yes, looking at porn of your gimmick on stream is totally idol behaviour. Posting images of yourself getting smacked the fuck down is idol behaviour.
Hell, Roboco in general is idol behaviour. Get off the Idolfag copium, retard.

>>16956679
Remember when Ame tried to protect Mumei and Fauna when they got doxxed? Remember how she stopped being /vt/'s darling chuuba right after that?

>>16954912
half of EN oshis at the very least are gonna be hit, everyone buckle up

who still watched trash taste or any of the cast individually? they all just make boring ass content these days. they all just rest and their laurels. no passion projects, no fun, no, personality, just kind of shitting out the typical boring bullshit to feed the youtube machine they’ve been resting on. they don’t feel like real people anymore just bummer asshole versions of when they did used to make entertaining shit. they’ve become worse than bad, they’re just fucking mediocre.

>>16956854
Just get something similar if they're that attached to that. Then, to avoid trouble from Cover, slowly change it from time to time.

>>16956901
it was literally a non-issue until that superchat brought him up and she read it by accident, the connor thing was months old drama everyone was bored of. its proof that Not Shutting The Fuck Up is the only thing that can exacerbate it. internet drama doesnt live on unless people pour oil on the fire.

>>16956910
You are confusing Idol and Seiso terms anon...

>>16956901
He's probably too prideful to apologize for BS that people made up about a random clip of his

>>16956901
>thinking that your delusional boards on /vt embodies the entirety of holofags

>>16956851
That's the shame, cowtowing to redditors is the only path foward. Owning them only leads to bigger yabs down the line. She's a MGRChad, she should know violence brings violence.

>>16956821
>Are you an ESL or just retarded?
Same question can be directed back at you nigger. That shit connor said that Hololive members got into hololive not because they have talent so you can be as talentless as you can be as long as you got accepted and you will get audience. That statement is already so fucking wrong in the most fundamental level if you actually know about Hololive from watching the actual streams and understand what the talent has to go through.

>>16956640
You cant count out Connor because he is still integral to the show as one of the hosts
So just take all you know of him

Gigguk is just a tool with bad taste in anime who treats his taste like gospel
(the mecha video is still hilarious to dunk on)

The other guy I dont have much to say on he's just annoying

And then you have to factor in who they hang around with

>>16956719
I will be honest. I had seen vox’s Stream and he is not that good if you compare him to Connor, the dude is more entertaining than him. Just look at ironmouse, she became so popular is mostly thanks to Connor.

>>16957003
A coward is a bitch and a bitch is a coward, anon.

>>16956679
They don't have to show you their PMs to fuel the drama faggot

>>16953933
It's pretty much this.

>>16956150
>Calli must've seen how VShojo is faring these months and she might want a fanbase like theirs.
To be fair when you see veibae sucking off sodaopppin and being the most popular she's ever been despite not even having a good schedule it probably does seem appealing. It looks like it's easy as fuck to coast by when you've reached that level of popularity.

>>16957014
there's plenty of this shit on reddit and discord too, those people just get silenced. If you don't just read the top threads and sort by a new/controversial a bit you can see a lot of it

>>16956910
have you watched a single stream in your fucking life

>>16957026
Jfc. My comment was sarcastic. I dont agree with Connors opinion.

>>16957083
Yes, including JPs. There's little difference between Korone and Kaicho Arino, so let's not get off on some high horse like there is.

>>16957049
mori is getting shat on publicly, it wouldn't kill them to just come out and tell the fans to not be faggots and leave her alone. Their "PMs" aren't helping anyone

>>16954912
>Hololive EN management goes back to strictly banning non-Hololive collabs, thus preventing dumbass yabes like this from happening in the first place
I see nothing wrong with that haha...

>>16953944
wait til conner gives her some of this

>>16957069
yah, I definitely respect the opinions of indofags who donate their days job of 2$/hour on fat whores like calli

>>16956679
They’re doing what you’re supposed to do idiot. Don’t feed the trolls! If they want to say something to Mori they’ll say it privately (if it’s good enough for Conner, right) or they won’t say it at all because Mori is a two faced bitch who cares more about her e-celeb friends than anyone in Hololive.

>>16957130
irony is that a corporate collab is the only reason they know each other

>Mori praised art that an anti drew of her cucking her fans
Seems like a bad PR move to me

>>16957033
So you hate gigguk because you think you have better anime taste than him? That is? Nothing else? And who else do they hang out with that is so bad?

>>16956042
which is a stupid point, being signed to a big company, using a brand name, heck even just being vouched for by a bigger celeb at the right time sets you to having a better starting position. This is something we all know.

>>16956737
She is now, for the past few days I believe, and it's gonna be an extended break for throat problems (allegedly)

>>16957209
Yeah, she wanted to scare the guy but looked like a retard to everyone else in the process. IIRC this current round of anti threads started with one thread saying like she was based or dunking on the artist. Mori was probably the OP.

>>16955491
easy w

>>16954510
This is the most likely logical conclusion. Also she prefers to hang out with guy e-celebs then her JP senpais which says a lot towards her dedication to hololive.

>>16957299
retards jealous of gigguk cause of his hot wife and making money off anime while they sit on their fat ass watching it by themselves

>>16957359
Sorry bros I'll ease up on her this week

>>16953853
Because they're fucking. Remember when she said he had been drinking all of her alcohol? Yeah.

>>16957364
Oh boy I wonder how the next few days and weeks are gonna go, especially when the antis saw how easy it is to bait Mori.

>>16953853
>not amount of money you donate will ever make her like you more than Connor
>tfw

Skelebros need a new queen of death

>>16957456
The fandeads don't want the cuckbeats, send them to Ollie.

>>16957324
Yeah, it's almost like... oh geez.. he never dropped a controversial take? He literally just said the most obvious shit ever: "being part of a big company is good for your brand", but worded it like a dumbass. Mousey choosing to say "let's change topic..." instead of figuring out what he actually meant can also be blamed, but she's ESL, so eh.
This is all just a massive nothingburger that people haven't stopped regurgitating and trying to dress up as a five-course meal of "Connor HATES hololive".

>>16957403
Imagine if she uses her twitch account to stream. Twitch, where it's easy to donate for a text readout then refund. I can see things going like how Dr Disrespect got harassed for cheating on his wife.

>>16957397
Lol, the cabinet is still empty.

>>16957552
>Mousey choosing to say "let's change topic..." instead of figuring out what he actually meant can also be blamed
Mousey did the correct thing by changing the topic instead of letting some guy shit on vtubers on her stream in any context.
Mouse is the only one who did something correct in this whole ordeal

>>16957552
Mousey immediately recognized that he was targeting Hololive and didnt want to shit on her friends for no reason. Question is, why didnt Connor realise he was shitting on Mori by saying that?

>>16957324
you're just realizing this now? holy shit holofags are more retarded than I ever thought

>>16957324
That's why it's disingenuous to claim that a reasonable person wouldn't take away from his words the reading that people in hololive are talentless streamers. It's like saying "those successful businessmen would be nowhere without the education and rich people connections they made in Ivy League schools" and then backtracking later to say, "well I didn't imply they weren't hardworking and talented in their own right." The idea of "they don't deserve it" is writ large.

>>16957623
>why didnt Connor realise he was shitting on Mori by saying that?
He probably did realize and just didn't care.

>>16957552
Yeah but he was retarded to use hololive as an example. Why not vshoujo or some league of legend team or something? He was pretty dumb for saying those thing even if his example are true. Brand power is a thing.

>Flew to Japan with a dream
>Working for pennies with someone that doesn't care for her just for the sake of her passion
>Talked about bridges getting burned after joining Hololive, some of them not so cleanly
>ReveaIs she's actually a dorky theater kid, re-contextualizing everything
naive was a given but she sounds incredibly groomable. i hope irys fingerbangs her and turns her into a sex slave

>>16957397
when did she say that

>>16957579
>Twitch, where it's easy to donate for a text readout then refund.
That's only if you donate using some sort of 3rd party method. This issue doesn't happen when you use Twitch's integrated donation system (bits).

>>16957452
anon, even if connor didnt exist she still would never have acknowledged you

>>16957703
Literally could have just said "being part of a big brand" but nah

>>16957616
>>16957623
He wasn't shitting on Hololive. Mousey getting scared of mentioning a big name in any negative context whatsoever is what allowed this BS rrat to spread in the first place.

He was literally just saying: "if you're part of a big company, you get a better start" in a conversation about employment and applications in general. He chose an example that hit too close to a controversial topic and never clarified.

>>16957452
What does the reddit man have to do with that?

>>16957616
Yeah regardless of if he was right or not Mouse knew that it could result in some sort of shitshow.
And what do you know, it did result in one.

>>16957397
by alcohol she clearly meant pussy juice

>>16957701
it's even hotter when guys diss their crush

>>16957552
>Mousey choosing to say "let's change topic..." instead of figuring out what he actually meant can also be blamed, but she's ESL, so eh.

No, she did the right thing, even could go as far to say that she saved Connor from saying something more stupid. Connor doesn't hate Hololive, but he should have worded his statement better cause it made him look slightly provocative.

>>16957703
because it's clear that he hates hololive. He's a fucking leftist woke retard and they hate Hololive. It's quite surprising that he can still stomach being in the anime space despite it clearly being anti woke.

>>16957788
This
"Hololive is a great example of this" Was clear to anybody what he was doing.
Its also retarded. Its like saying "The NFL is a great example, you don't have to be good at football, once you're in, you're making millions."

>>16957552
>>16957616
>Mousey
do we have clips of this?

>>16956003
anon, all of their vtubers are making more money than you,

>>16957838
Why didnt he use Vshojo as an example, considering he was in a Vshojo stream, and they are a big company?

>>16957703
Yes, dumb example, but I can see why it came to mind, since he was talking to a vtuber. He knows like two vtuber companies by name and wasn't about to mention the the company that Mousey works for lmao.

>>16957702
She's spoken a bit about how a few members of her old crew got salty over her new success as a Holo. Unfortunately she just went and found a new group of insincere clout chasers to get in with. Mori is the kind of person who is just too naive and surrounds herself with bad eggs as a result

>>16957863
>t. Mori

>>16957703
they were on the topic of hololive minutes before that and mousey was acting retarded by not understand what connor was saying

>>16957838
>Mousey getting scared of mentioning a big name in any negative context whatsoever
And she is 100% right to have that fear. It could lead to unnecessary drama. Like the one right now.

>>16956980
you know she has another established persona ready, right? she just announced she coming back to it this month.

>>16953885
The true and honest answer

>>16957872
Fair enough, I can see where you're coming from, but the thing is, at that point he'd already said it. Too late to get a better example, but denied the chance to do any damage control.

>>16957875
he didn't use the nfl as an example cause it's a fucking retarded example made by you

https://files.catbox.moe/icy78x.mp4

>>16956640
This is floating around. Apparently has been a thing for a while, but was suppressed everywhere else where people actually give a shit about anitubers. Since it's suddenly become relevant expect more autism-fueled digging by anons to follow, that is unless it's a completely baseless rrat as opposed to a half-true-semi-plausible rrat.

>>16957971
Oh you mean that demon... yeah that might work.

>>16957931
yeah but i just want irys's diminutive mind to misread a social cue and calli being too submissive to stop her as her skirt gets brushed aside

>>16957999
>>16957889

>>16957042
I have yet to see Connor, but you're selling Vox short. A voice can carry you only so far and Vox is probably going to have the highest sub of any NijiEN in a month.

>>16957873
Yeah he definitely is partial woke, not to the point of being extreme though since he hang out with joey, a lolicon and garnt the incest dude. Which is funny since the guest from the host episode of TT called him out on it.

>>16957996
You're being a fag.
Its exactly the same which is why its retarded.

"It doesn't matter if you are useless, once you're in, you get success, nevermind how much effort it takes to get in"
He's calling hololive vtubers talentless hacks that are successful without doing anything to deserve it.
Its the same as saying a Football player is successful even if he's bad at footbal, even if there's a whole scouting process and decision making that occurs before you enter said brand/league.

>>16957142
>ten times more potent that marijuana
wtf do japs think weed is lmao

>>16956754
too bad, cuckbeat

>>16957999
Just to be clear, we all agree that what he said is correct, right? You can be the most talentless streamer on the planet but you'll still have an audience carried through Cover's brand, right?

>>16958202
You wouldn't get into Hololive if you were talentless though.

>>16957999
Even what he says at the end
>Once you get the job it doesn't matter what you said on the application
He's also calling the talent scouts and recruiters retarded and saying they let in useless people because they got famous anyways.

Also
>We can agree on that right mousey
>Uhhh.... we should change the topic
kek. Fuck you Connor.

>>16958019
more context, apparently:
>Gigguk got roped in two times by his friend, Joey the anime man, to participate in some questionable financial organization. One involved Joey asking Gigguk to advertise Joey's company for him only for the company to turn out to be some data mining company who was selling people's mental health information to unknown places. The second time, Joey, Gigguk and other friends tried to peddle a Crypto currency that they are supporting. But honestly, both of those times he could say that he got roped in by his friends. It's Joey who you ought to dig dirt for. He has some connections to various Corpo in Japan as revealed by the data mining operation he operated in the first place. Iirc he was looking for some corporation to support him opening a branch for the Data mining company in Japan before the scandal broke
If true, I doubt Cover knew anything about this. If they even caught a whiff of it doing their DD (which I doubt they would've done all, considering Kadokawa gave these guys the greenlight) then the original TT collab wouldn't have gone forward and this entire mess could've been avoided.

>>16957996
I remember watching a Vee video about low IQ people not understanding hypothetical situations and this is post is a perfect example

>>16958118
you think niggers like azki flare and half of id would be anything without hololive? fuck it add calliope to that list, these retards literally prove connors point.

nfl players have genuine background to base their scouting process off of, hololive gets a semi successful streamer who's career was dying and hope they get a good vtuber in the process

>>16957999
Well...kinda stupid on Connor's part because he's talking to a Vtuber.
If Mouse continued with the topic, the conversation will go around her as well. Is Connor retarded?
Mouse did the right thing here kek.

>>16958058
Connor has 2.5+ million sub on his YouTube channel. He stream to 16k+ people today. And he is debuting as a vtuber soon.

>>16958202
You'd get an initial boost but it's up to you to actually keep the momentum going.

>>16958118
You missed the part where you need an application (or nepotism if you believe that) to join Hololive. Your sports example has to do with scouting which isn't how Hololive does things anymore. You can lie in an application, but you can't fake your sports skill.

>>16958202
use sana, azki or half of ID as an example, and yes, his point stands

>>16958202
Theoretically yes, but a) Hololive doesnt hire talentless streamers, and b) this applies to any large brand organization, Vshojo included and yet he didnt mention them for some reason but called out Hololive specifically.

>>16958252
The previous chubbas like Azki and Flare are what built the brand in the firstplace. That's different than saying if you apply NOW as a talentless hack you will still get in and make money.

If sora applied today she would be rejected.

>>16958268
>And he is debuting as a vtuber soon.
For what purpose? Pulling a Nina?

>>16958320
I think he's just making one just for fun to do things with ironmouse. I doubt it will be that serious of a thing.

>>16958298
>You can lie in an application
How? Fake singing? Stealing somebody else's art and saying its your own? Even if you managed to get through you'd be shot down by fans faster than Aloe.

>>16958320
because ironmouse is making him do it

>>16958202
Why would he say that to a VTuber that is also in a big org if his goal wasn't to shit on hololive and imply that their talents are shit?
Also the JP girls worked really hard, pre-Myth girls worked REALLY and even making a comment that has implications that its just brand, not skill is insulting to them

>>16958268
>2.5 million subs
>only 16,000 viewers
He's gura tier with dead subs.

>>16956196
Kson’s fans didnt turn on her unlike mori

>>16958320
Ironmouse “forced” him.

>>16958298
You know hololive does an audition reel submission and an online audition right. Its not just a piece of paper lmao. Have you never applied for a job before? You dont just get hired from the resume.

>>16958202
People don't keep watching talentless hacks for months when there are many other channels to choose from. Vtubers join Cover for promotion. Of course vtubers will be more popular if they are in hololive, that's why they agree to give Cover a percentage instead of staying as an indie. Relatively easy collabs with other holos doesn't hurt either. That doesn't change the fact that thousands of people audition for 4-5 spots. Saying hololive talents are just carried by the brand without any merit of their own is like saying an A-list hollywood actor is just carried by the movies they appear in. Sure they might make some money on a movie or two but if they're really bad at acting people will figure that out and their movies won't turn a profit, unless people with actual skill are willing to let them leech.

>>16958444
>>16958396
>>16958362
What, are they fucking?

>>16958314
true, point still stands cause there have been flops in companies like nijisanji or hololive, even when admissions were hard to get in, and these people still got a following just by being in hololive

>>16956901
>but people kept spreading shit about Connor being a hololive hater in every thread
It's the complete and unabashed truth.

>>16957033
>(the mecha video is still hilarious to dunk on)
Thanks now I'm mad that he implied Build Fighters was just a cheap cash grab. That shit has a lot of soul even if you don't like Gundam.

>>16958306
>Vshojo included and yet he didnt mention them for some reason but called out Hololive specifically

Because of how VShojo works, maybe? They didn't do applications when Connor said his take. Their two additions to the original members were both done through nepotism, it would be a bad example. He wanted to find an example to resonate with Ironmouse, so he picked a well-known VTuber company that uses applications to get new people in.

>>16958410
Streaming anon. His videos sometime get 1 millions view plus.

>>16958410
He streams on twitch dumbass

>>16958406
It can be taken as insulting, if you don't have the cognitive function to recognize a hypothetical. He's a dumbass who picked a dumb example, but it's pretty clear that he bears no ill will against Hololive.

>>16955964
>>16956049
Is this in reference to the collab with Gura where they tried to play Cuphead but the ping was just too much for Gura?

>>16958202
He is just partially true, while Hololive brand grants you at least some fans you won't be successful unless you do something good as a streamer, that's why Sana is still at 200k but Chloe or Laplus have 600k now, and even qith that Sana has talents, just not for streaming. Even with that they won't pick you without having any talent or experience

>>16958467
I hope not because then she'd die and that means vshojo would have no more morally respectable streamers left.

>>16958495
That's even worse.

>>16958363
He was talking about applications in general anon. Hololive was just an example he brought up of a company that has an application system, he obviously didn't think too much into the specifics.

>>16958467
One is in japan, another in America(?) so no but the relationship between them help each other so they are friend with benefit(not sex friend).

>>16958467
how would that even work? would he fuck her through the tubes that are inserted into her?

>>16958467
Officially no but if you've seen any ironmouse collab with connor it seems painfully obvious she wants to fuck him.

>>16958467
hopefully

>>16958363
that point was used more for regular ass jobs, but he was pointing out shit like saying 'im incredibly happy all the time' or 'im very social', all shit you can lie about even if you know its not true

>>16958491
Yeah youre right it would be a bad example because it makes Vshojo look so much worse when it comes to talentless streamers being successful because of big company

>>16958268
>And he is debuting as a vtuber soon.
Oh shit, on Holostar EN?

>>16957729
Oh man. Sorry, I don't remember which stream it was on the top of my head. Should be easy to find in the archive.

>>16956933
no

>>16958591
Lol no, as ironmouse sidekick.

>>16958467
Yes. Connor's dick span the whole globe. It can reach from Japan to the US.

>>16956630
Holos still make better streams than "I play pokemon but if I lose I eat something spicy haha"

>>16958484
who are you telling this other than yourself

>>16958540
consistently in the top 20 streamers streaming on twitch concurrently, but gtk ur opinion

>>16958668
At least Haachama had the manners to give us a good hurling

>>16958637
I'm starting to think that Mori is always simping for Connor but only to get cucked by Mousey

>>16958237
you're even stupider for not understanding how humans work and the brain interprets words and implications. connors statement isn't wrong about a brand bringing numbers and no one is arguing that, they're arguing the intention behind the example used possibly implying that the holos are talentless(lazy and mentally ill sure, but they definitely have experience the company was looking for). mousey was right to change it cause connor didn't cover his bases and started off weak.

>>16958692
And? Still a fuckton of dead subs on a platform that makes it piss easy to show when someone is streaming unlike the trainwreck shitshow that is youtube.

easy W

>>16958734
Mousey got cucked by God she has no chance.

>>16958578
>because it makes Vshojo look so much worse when it comes to talentless streamers being successful because of big company
Most of VShojo were already successful streamers before it was even made.

>>16958219
>>16958406
>>16958449
>>16958451
I think you guys are looking too much into the example itself, whereas what Connor wanted to give a reason as to why people would lie in an application. His take isn't wrong, but his example is bad because he hasn't watched enough of Hololive to understand what is going on behind the scenes. Do we agree on this?

>>16958734
He makes Calli wear the Ironmouse wig during sex

>>16958756
did you reply to the wrong person?

>>16958495
Twitch is a buff retard

>>16958734
Mori getting cucked by a disabled woman from another continent lol

>>16958668
>>16958719
That's funny because I'm a Haaton, but yet Haachama is barely an adult, she has a lot of time to learn

>>16958808
I believe
t. a cuck beat

>>16958759
>dead subs
>not using gura as an example

>>16958467
If mouse gets even within 1 mile of anybody she fucking dies of the plague.
She has less of an immune system than a gay man with 4 strains of HIV

>>16954230
Bullied kids have two ways: either they own that shit and become very well-adjusted people or they live the rest of their lives sigma cucked and blaming the past for every stupid decision they make.

>>16958807
if his take isnt based on the reality of the situation and instead an assumption that could be made with literally any corporation/publisher/record label, it's a bad take. Don't forget that Hololive members have several months after they're picked for training before they're publicly revealed, and that's still time before they can even make money, and if they can "lie" across that entire period, then obviously they're still suited for the job.

>>16954649
apologize for what, deadcuck

>>16958734
Isn't it ironic that Mousey is close to dying and Calli is a grim reaper yet Calli cannot kill Mousey for Connor because she somehow keeps living on?

>>16953853
>imagine being hooked on an actual Mennonite that is only on japan because trends told him so.
yikes

>>16958551
Get one of these bad boys on and try not to crush her brittle bones with a single thrust

>>16958845
tired i thought he was quoting someone else

Why are ecelebs always dumb?
How can it be that the people who make their living off making youtube videos are so prone to saying the most retarded shit?

>>16958802
A larger percentage of Vshojo were literal whos with no streaming skills or talent (Hime, Froot, Melody) that became popular for no reason other than big company compared to Holos.

>>16958877
>Not reading the chain.

>>16959015
hey, melody has some skills, dont talk shit like that

>>16959004
anyone vaguely relatable can get big on the internet these days if they make themselves loud enough

>>16956439
Mori wishes she had a speck of the charisma Kson has. Mori hasn't even done anything significant like Coco did.

>>16959004
>Say retarded shit online
>Make money
Therefore
>Say retarded shit about other people, thinking they will make money
>Start a flame war
Whoops.

>>16953853
Mori don't seem like the type to have many friends and is probably for a reason. More than defending Connor's honor I think it's more about her having a short fuse. She probably lost her shit because she don't like people telling her what to do. The cuckbeat that sent her the SC that triggered her tried to sugar coat it and be as respectful as possible but she still took his criticism as if it were a personal attack. Like no matter how you slice it she overreacted.

>>16958807
My disagreement with you is that I believe he was intentionally trying to talk shit about Hololive and not make a general point about big corpotubers

>>16959015
>Melody literal who
uh she got pretty big whoring herself out on cam sites

>>16959004
Statistics. If you spent hours every day talking into a camera, you will eventually say dumb shit.
There's only so many combinations of letters you can use in the English language before you say something retarded.

>>16958526
I don't think anyone who's only ever watched Hololive and Nijisanji and big corpo streamers has any idea what a truly talentless streamer is like, the worst member of Hololive is a huge step above some of the true trash out there.

>>16959042
>shitting on connor about points that can just as easily be applicable to your holofag idols

>>16959051
dildoing yourself on camera isnt a skill sorry

>>16959076
Eh, cuckbeat was an idiot. She dealt with shekelbeat a lot worse. She would've actually deserved this kinda backlash for that fiasco lmao

>>16957873
I'm surprised he can remain friends with Joey considering the latter is an open lolicon. It's a textbook case of cognitive dissonance in action.

>>16959015
>Hime
Literal meme, no one cares. And even then she was a successful youtuber.
>Melody
Not true at all, she got popular whoring herself out on cam
>Froot
So far the only applicable example.

>>16957299
>you hate gigguk because you think you have better anime taste than him?
You don't really need that much more to hate someone who gets paid for having taste in anime. People sure don't watch him for his looks or winning personality.

>>16959141
>Damage controlling this hard.
Dead subs are dead subs regardless of who they are from, Connor is in the same boat as Gura and clearly not as good as people here crow.

>>16959004
The failure rate for online entertainers making a living off it is like 99.9 percent. If you're a somewhat intelligent person chances are you're already making a living from something else, leaving the idiots to play the lottery. Surprise, most of the winners of the lottery are idiots. Usually the best of the idiots, but still idiots.

>>16959198
break up one of the most popular podcasts on youtube over a shitty anime opinion, should start taking opnions of yours

>>16959264
>Shitting on Gura to also own Connor
The absolute state of /vt/

>>16959224
He was referring to getting popular despite having no streaming skill or talent. All 3 of these have none of that and still got popular. Every holo is hired because they have previous streaming experience or talent on their resume.

>>16958807
Connor, just stop defending your shit take. You almost dragged Mouse with this dramafest.

>>16959292
>Defending an e-celeb on /vt/
The absolute state of (you)

>>16959004
Ironically Connor is being smart now by just not saying anything lol

>>16959015
Melody is more popular than your shit oshi before vshojo was even a thing you fuck

>>16959076
Its not even just that. Its the continuous seething. She has an opportunity to choose the right way to solve things multiple times and she chose wrong

>Could have ignored the superchat and just said "thanks" or even reply "Eh whatever he's a friend of mine, im not gonna disavow friends, and I'll talk to him"
>Could have said in a stream later "Yeah so about yesterday I blew up at a superchat, could have handled it better, but he insulted a friend, you deadbeats understand that right?" and moved on
>Could have NOT said "yeah im sending that super to connor fuck you fans" and just kept the money. Heck, could even say "yeah say whatever in supers im still making money" which is scummy, but Mori "jew shekels" calliope would have made that funny.
>Could have just NOT FUCKING RESPONDED TO A KEKBEAT TWEET and just let things simmer down on their own because it is just a stupid connor clip and most people don't give a fuck about connor and it'll pass.
>Could have NOT DEFENDED HERSELF ON REDDIT also defending herself in a retarded way
>Could have NOT ADMITTED TO BEING DRUNK (or using drinking as an excuse) and call it "lean" kek

Its literally mistake after mistake. And its because she's seething more than the guy who initially sent her the superchat.

>>16959264
just saying, hard to take your crticism of dead subs when nearly every single vtuber here has them as well

>>16953885
Kek
Shit makes sense

>>16959264
His video has 800k- 1 millions views, that is more than anything vox ever produced so far.

>>16959091
Nothing that he has said or done has shaken this belief for me.
From the onset of his intro to vtubing and corps like Holo and Niji he was instantly biased against them. The worst thing is that he'd continue to talk shit without an ounce of research to see whether or not his initial biases were correct. In other words, a cunt through and through.

>>16959304
>t.mori ?

>>16959015
Hime’s roomate is really popular 2.5m subs iirc

>>16959339
refer to
>>16959147
i dont care about how popular she was, thats irrelevant.

>>16957623
Because he's an idiot.
Connor isn't very smart, yknow. The only thing he's good for is reading things out loud. The moment you let him insert his own opinions and "thoughts", he falls apart completely.
He's the weirdest fit for a podcast, since he can't improvise at all and I still don't see how he is successful when he can't write either.
Guess being friends with popular youtubers will help.

>>16959386
she has 600k subs.

>>16959294
>He was referring to getting popular despite having no streaming skill or talent. All 3 of these have none of that
But this objectively isn't true for Hime and Melody on the list. They'll all had their own popularity in some fashion beforehand it just wasn't streaming on twitch.

>>16959454
retard

>>16959386
Aim lower, around 700K

>>16959294
Melody existed before VShojo.

>>16959364
And? Vox just started out and is on a debuff website. Also Vox has a much better retention rate on subs to viewers based on what you're saying about Connor numbers.

Why did the topic change to VShojo when it's Hololive we were supposed to be talking about?

>>16959360
And?

>>16958807
Not going to even bother trying to respond intelligently because you want me to agree with you on something so that you can feel better.

>>16959360
Literally everyone has dead subs. Comparing with subs is really fucking stupid, that's basic numberfagging.

If we're talking about Vox, his membership just opened, come watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ugCl15TWg

>>16959453
Funny how he started this trouble by complaining how beign in with the right name gives you free popularity.

>>16959549
Some retard decided to start some argument about it because of connor's general take.

>>16957456
>stripper pic

>>16959557
basically my fucking point, i wasnt the one to bring up dead subs and viewership in the first place

>>16959497
suck a dick faggot

>>16959556

That's fair KEK. Do wanna hear what you have to say though.

>>16959654
love you too

>>16959650
Then yell at this fag for bringing up subs >>16958268
I got a feeling it's connor.

>>16958719
She also actually made the thing that made her throw up.

>>16959516
Anon, Connor is mainly a YouTuber not a streamer. He just started streaming on twitch for a years or so. Most of his stream are random with no schedule. His video on YouTube get 800k-1 million on average and his stream on twitch can vary. No way in hell can vox catch up to him, the more sub vox gain on YouTube the worst his retention rate on subs to viewers based will get like gura, that is how things are. His vod can never match Connor, even gura can’t do that and she has more sub than Connor.

>>16959376
From his own words he doesn't give a shit about vtubing as an entertainment medium and is more interested in getting closer with their roommates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoJyO8gEd3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv2HzDsc244
Him and his buddies are just interested in vtubers for the grift.

Did mods delete the reddit thread?

>>16959733
Might be misremembering, but wasn't that just regular old store-bought spicy hot noodles? I think she finished the first cup and got halfway through the 2nd before she puked.

>>16959752
Yes

>>16953885
actually a good chance to be correct. The JPEN youtuber scene is full of partiers

>>16958467
Discord sex is all she can manage

>>16959682
Fine. I'll bite.

>>16959736
holy shit, quoting clips from 1 year ago, your point is valid queen!!!! retard he's had 50+ collab streams by now with mouse, but no, he doesnt understand vtubers

>>16959735
And? Doesn't change the fact that Vox has better sub to view rates than Connor who's entire gimmick is getting views alone as opposed to live stream viewers.

>>16959712
fuck any retard bringing up numbers to validate anyone, connor or not

>>16959819
sounds more like he's just interested in mouse then?

>>16959819
>he doesnt understand vtubers
That's not what I said though, I said he doesn't give a shit about them.

>there are actual people defending the antituber hacks on this board

>>16959880
BUT MUM NUMBERS!

>>16959340
That'll be Garnt telling him to stfu.

>>16959819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nva9-CtiRuE
Ya boy still hates vtubers, he just has a crush

>>16959880
>Defending anitubers anywhere on 4chan
Connor is wrong just for being an anituber. Regardless of the interpretation of what he said.

>>16959952

>>16959819
Chill out Mori, Connor's not gonna fuck you

>>16959843
If you want to use streaming sub to compare the two then fine, Connor has 596k sub/follower on twitch and he can get a average of 6- 10k when he streams and it is mostly at random with no schedule. Use that basic to compare them then.

>>16960002
Yeah, future tense is highly inappropriate here.

>>16958268
>And he is debuting as a vtuber soon.
If true technically this means that Connor can soon have his own general here and will be on topic to talk about.

>>16960002
he's inside of me right now, get fucked

>>16960064
Yes, Connor will soon be a permanent ptsd for /vt/.

>>16960082
Take your meds, mousey

>>16960016
Okay numberfag.
Vox is doing a member opening guerrilla stream that's pulling in 5,104 people right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ugCl15TWg

Rounding and averaging, let's compare 596,000 subs with an average of 8000 viewers to 223,00 subs with an average of 5000 viewers.
Vox has the better rate

If he didn't believe that holos were coasting on the brand name the company would've never come to mind when he was talking about lying and being a bad streamer

>>16960168
guy got 17k last stream. since we're using numbers from conveniently picked streams, use that one yah?

>>16958932
Which one of these does killing yourself fall under?

>>16960168
1. Learn the meaning of the word "average"
2. Are we still numberfagging between a dedicated streamer that started a couple months ago and a Youtuber that randomly started streaming a while back? On different platforms? These numbers are even more meaningless than the usual numberfagging

>>16960238
>>16960259
Don't move the goalposts, you said 6k-10k. Also don't forget that Twitch is a major buff for guerrillas and streams in general

>>16960203
Or maybe the name came to mind because he was talking to a vtuber and Hololive is the biggest name in the western vtubing sphere.

>>16960168
Yeah for now but as vox sub increases and his ccv doesn’t then his rate will get worse.

>>16954644
What do you think he mean by this?
Easy win or easy whore?

>>16960337
>yeah but...
Damage control

>>16960302
nigger I wasnt the one to say 6-10 k, you're using made up average numbers for connor and a selective stream from vox, crazy analysis

>>16958528
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>>16958551
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>>16959810
So Connor is grooming Ironmouse, sick fuck.