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I'm ultra paranoid about vtubers looking down on and hating their fans when they are off stream after all the shit that's been going on and it's making it hard for me to enjoy them.

>> No.16878860

>>16878781
Find an oshi that spends her time interacting with her community instead of just clocking in and out of youtube.

>> No.16879105

>>16878781
Anon, if you're that paranoid, vtuber will not the only one looking down on you

>> No.16879603

>>16878781
Vtubers who look down on their fans make me hard.

>> No.16879684

>>16878781
then do something actually deserving of respect

>> No.16879686
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"Ugh, get a look at this loser. I think he actually watches cute anime girls."
"Really?.. LMAO, like, even ones that make adorable 'humu humu' noises? Revolting!"

>> No.16879706

>>16878781
If you even suspect your oshi is doing this, leave immediately. They are.

>> No.16879737

>>16878781
than stop watching hololive! find someone else who actually wants an audience! you'll see how grateful they're when you decide to stick around

>> No.16879740

>>16878781
That's why Ina is growing on me. She meekly said it to chat's face and after the cleaning stream, no one should take any feelings they have of her superiority seriously.

>> No.16879775

>>16878781
They probably are mocking their fans while thanking them for the tips.

>> No.16879811

>>16879775
TRUE

>> No.16879822

>>16879706
This. If it feels like your oshi is talking shit about her fans privately SHE IS. The only vtubers who can be trusted are the ones who are constantly in contact with their fanbase on twitter and youtube community posts. If your oshi disappears for over 24 hours at a time with no contact then she almost certainly thinks you're a cuck

Incidentally this includes ALL of HoloEN so just avoid that branch entirely

>> No.16879859

>>16879684
Vtubers shouldn't give special treatment to talented people.

>> No.16879967

>>16879859
t. alentless whore

>> No.16880570

>>16878860
This. You can notice a huge difference between vtubers who are actually enjoy what they do and those who are just doing it as a gig based on how they act. If they
>Consistently don't stream very much
>Make no effort to interact with the community outside of streams
>Make no effort to actually talk to the chat and instead just blankly pretend to react to whatever game they're playing
>Don't ever try to go "above and beyond," even if it isn't very much
>Sound deadpan all the time
>Never go on tangents
Then there might be a good chance they don't actually enjoy what they do.

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>>16880570
Phew, my oshi is safe, for now.

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>>16880570
My oshi gets a passing grade I see

>> No.16880656
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i jack off to the idea it's incredibly hot

>> No.16880672

>>16880570
>Consistently don't stream very much
Hey, her freaking tummy hurts, come on.

>> No.16880710

>>16879822
I have 0 indication that she doesn't, but I just have a sinking feeling that even the biggest hikkiNEET vtubers probably look down on their fanbase.

>> No.16880740

>>16878781
its because you have incel takes, unironically giving you a perma cucked mentality.
maybe you should lay off thinking the worse of vtubers and women in general for a week or two.

>> No.16880759

>>16880740
>incel
>takes
>unironically
three zoomer buzzwords in one post, impressive

>> No.16880772

I have a low opinion of the general vtuber fanbase, why would I expect a cute girl to be any more lenient with how weird they are?

>> No.16880793

>>16880570
gura no...

>> No.16880880

>>16880607
>>16880638
>>16880672
You guys are safe
>>16880793
You might not be because I find it hard to believe that any sane person would have the patience to deal with the kids, retards, and literal pedophiles that she has to on a daily basis.

>> No.16880990

yes they do and im tired of pretending were not

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>>16878781
You need to play games sometimes go out from 4chan for a while.

>> No.16881077

>>16878781
it's time for you to find another hobby. I hear snowboarding is pretty popular, and you can always just watch anime where you don't have to worry about some roastie judging you.

>> No.16881116

>>16881077
you know those seiyuus hate otakus, just look at hirano aya

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>>16880759
>zoomer
>buzzwords
are you so retarded you get stunlocked by letters?

>> No.16881204

>>16880880
If I had to deal with the greynames in Gura's chat, I'd want to KMS for sure. I see why she likes doing memebers streams so much since she can filter the worst of them out.

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>>16881160
Zoomer isn't a buzzword, it's the proper term for Gen Z. Doomer, coomer, etc are buzzwords.

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>>16879822
Doesn't apply to my oshi. Sana doesn't give off the vibe that she talks shit about her fans even though she hits a lot of what you said, she just has fucking terrible communication skills with her fanbase (outside of streaming). It's the biggest complaint Sanallites have against her. The only EN members I genuinely feel talk shit about their fans are:
>Mumei
>Kronii
>Mori
The rest are self-aware enough to know they're just as retarded as their fanbase and would be nothing without them.

>> No.16881304

>>16881280
I don't think Sana cares enough about Hololive to even know if she should like or dislike her fans. She's just not present.

>> No.16881365

>>16878781
If they didn't hate their fans, I would be concerned they were mentally ill. The only ones who clearly have an attachment to their fans like Kiara are also very much mentally ill. It's cute for this phase of her life but thinking functioning adults are going to feel that way about their chat is nonsensical. The way to not be attached to your chat but still respect them is to just not read the superchats or do any talking streams.

>> No.16881574

>>16881221
>also known as zoomers
my fucking sides

>> No.16881626

>>16881280
Im surprised you didn't mention Ame

>> No.16881634

>>16878860
>Find an oshi that spends her time interacting with her community
Where?

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>>16881574
Yes, "zoomer". A member of Generation Z.

>> No.16881696

>>16879737
no such people exist

>> No.16881737

>>16881634
In the 2view indie and small corpo scene. Plenty of passionate, parasocial vtubers there who love streaming, being active on twitter (sometimes hosting spaces), and some of them even have discord servers.

>> No.16881758

>>16879859
You don't need talent to be noticed, just do some endearingly retarded shit and post it on the web

>> No.16881792

>>16881737
none of them speak english though

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>>16881662
>a 4chan meme got legitimized as an actual word

>> No.16881868

>>16881792
I'm talking about Tsunderia, Prism, Kawaii Pro, Phase, and Cyberlive. Ask their generals and I guarantee you you'll find who you're looking for. As for indies who fit the bill, I only know Nina Saotome but I'm sure /gorls/ will recommend you others.

>> No.16881923

>>16881863
That has happened many times.

>> No.16881924

>>16881868
those all reach triple digits on the regular dude
they're way past the "grateful for one (1) extra viewer" stage

>> No.16881928

>>16878781
I don't blame them. I mean look at this board.

>> No.16881956

>>16880570
Gura....
Kronii.....
Ayame.....

>> No.16881988

I think Moom's one of the ones that have been steadilyappreciating us the more time she spends with us.

>> No.16882018

>>16878781
That's why you have to work hard to improve yourself so that you're NOT part of the people they shit talk about. Fuck those bitches, you need to be proud of yourself enough to shrug off their venomous words

>> No.16882086

>>16881365
Why do you hate yourself?

>> No.16882103

>>16882018
having to self improve is the ultimate sign of a loser
kings are born not made in the mines

>> No.16882106

>>16881634
I was thinking of Miori when I wrote that post.

>> No.16882125

>>16881626
Ame has definitely said shit, but that's more to do with their retarded cringey behaviour at times, which is fair. In general she reinvests a lot of the financial support she gets from her fanbase to make fun content for them. Mori, Mumei and Kronii just take the money, laugh at them and continue to chat shit behind the scenes, although I feel Kronii was mostly like that at the very start. She seems to be improving.

>> No.16882168

>>16882106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIn4Z-o9qVk
lol

>> No.16882187

>>16882168
A male voice?! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>> No.16882209

>>16881626
>>16882125
i don't know how anyone can watch ame and not feel genuinely loved. i am grateful to be a teamate

>> No.16882212

>>16882018
Bruh if I was successful in life do you really think I or anyone else would be watching women larp as anime girls?

>> No.16882242

>>16881792
Like >>16881868 said
Kawaii literally consists of hardcore GFE chuubas. One of them is almost Rushia tier schizo who sees her chat as a bf substitute
Tsunderia have 2 digit viewers and very close to their audience and also have cute boys for you femcels
Phase is similarly 2 digit and close with their audience, gfe shorts, but with some menhera members
Cyberlive is kind of weird so I still haven't gotten a firm grasp on them
Prisim I have yet to check out

>> No.16882259

>>16881924
I was using those less as examples of being parasocial and more as people who actually enjoy vtubing. Only the bigger ones get three digits, and even then the ones like Nene Amano. Nini Yuuna, and Miori Celesta very clearly actually enjoy vtubing and still act parasocial. If you want smaller then there's Yura and Lisa and Shee. There is plenty of good talent out there.

>> No.16882415

>>16878781
>Pic related

>> No.16882518

>>16881574
UH ALL THE YOUNG PEOPLE OR ZOOMERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM

>> No.16882551

>>16881280
Why Mumei? I don't watch her, but seeing her in a couple of collabs she seems pretty twee.

>> No.16882565

>>16882242
>One of them is almost Rushia tier schizo who sees her chat as a bf substitute
Which one?

>> No.16882586

>>16880990
>>16881365
>>16881634
>>16881696
>>16881792
>>16881924
You criticize the result of Cover hiring non-vtubers to become vtubers and when people show you alternatives, you dismiss them. It's literally your fault at this point when you still prefer to stay in your bubble with shit chuubas. There's a reason why HololiveEN is the only group in the West that stagnates and it's not oversaturation. Just check out Prism, Kawaii or Tsunderia.

>> No.16882612

>>16878781
Take the IronMouse pill if you're that paranoid.

>> No.16882641

>>16878781
you're a fucking retard if you don't realize they despise all the altar-building cumjar-filling degens that are watching them. you would too if you were in their place.

>> No.16882708

my sharkie loves me personally and is visibly upset when I'm late to a stream (which I'll never do again even if I have to skip work)

>> No.16882740

The big v-tubers get so much weird shit thrown at them that I think it's safe to say most have at least some contempt for their fanbase.

>> No.16882781

>>16882551
She's cute and inclining but my schitzo brain can pick up an air of superiority about her when she streams. I'm not the only one.

>> No.16882797

>>16882740
Nene is the only vtuber who I am 100% sure genuinely likes her fanbase and enjoys the weird shit they say to her.

https://youtu.be/AKizskLbeTA

>> No.16882799

>>16882641
My oshi makes a cake for her oshi's birthday every year and has an altar dedicated to him. If she could cum in a jar, she would've done it by now.

>> No.16882808
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Don't forget, anon, this is how your oshi is in private.

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>>16882565
The normie. Lockdowns probably messed her up a bit

>> No.16882827

>>16882816
Sheesh.....

>> No.16882983

>>16878781
It's not just your oshi that hates you.
Everybody else does.

>> No.16883012

>>16882797
Atleast comfortable enough to talk about heavy topics like depression

>> No.16883061

>>16878781
Kronii.. please like us more I promise we don't only like you because of the tits

In actuality the way to cope with this is to just think of yourself as an individual - that you're "not like the others" fan. That if she met you in person she would like you even if she has a low opinion of her overall fanbase

>> No.16883117
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if you're really worried about vtubers talking shit at you, just take the JP switch and drop EN. Most of the HoloJPs treat their viewers with utmost respect. If you are too stubborn to learn Japanese, there's a plethora of better EN alternatives that aren't from Hololive. If you don't like the corpo scene, there's indies in /wvt/ who you can interact with directly

>> No.16883143

>>16882242
>>16882259
idk i've checked out the smaller corpos multiple times and every time the view counts were at the lowest in the high double digits (not counting shit like the very start/end of a stream ofc)

>> No.16883158

>>16883012
She's talked in members posts about how she's an idol and can be "dyed in your color" so she's pretty committed to being anything her fans want her to be. Given her idol background I'd say Nene's credentials for being actually willing to live a genuine idol lifestyle are rock solid.

>> No.16883171

>>16878781
Is your self-esteem really this fragile?
They are literally pretending to be anime girls for losers. PRETENDING to be ANIME GIRL. This is literally lowest you can get as a woman.
You can jerk off and leave her when you get bored and move on with your life, noone cares.
But they have to surrond themselves with retards constantly approving their existence, act like some kids show with coomer moments and PRETEND TO BE ANIME GIRL for rest of their lives. After that they have nothing. They wasted their productivity age on chasing retarded dreams instead of working and getting experience and taking courses and educate.
You may think that I'm forcing some meme, but think about it. To know vtubers and to want become one, you have to be another level of weeb. Not even like "I want to become Japanese" this is "I want to become anime".
If they laugh at their fans, then it is same pathetic thing like crackwhore laughing at drunk kids

>> No.16883183

>>16883117
/wvt/ is an actual cespool. Literal whores that have no respect for anything let alone their fans

>> No.16883213

>>16883183
some of them are nice. I like the finnish military guy. His passion for instant noodles is hilarious and endearing in some way

>> No.16883218

>>16881365
If they aren't mentally ill, I don't want them to be a vtuber.

>> No.16883254

>>16883171
>they wasted their time making fat cash instead of going into massive debt via (((education)))

>> No.16883259

>>16878781
trust your gut, man. you can actually see those that love their fans and those that hate their fans

>> No.16883268

>>16883171
Well said but OP is definitely just bait posting

>> No.16883286

>>16882983
he knows, it's why he needs an oshi in the first place.

>> No.16883303

>>16883254
true, but they're probably referencing 2views/smaller tubers

>> No.16883354

>>16883254
Not everyone lives in USA

>> No.16883438

>>16882808
Is this a VN? I think I have seen this somewhere.

>> No.16883494
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>>16883268
>bait
they might be sincere. Ronery threads like this aren't new to this website. Take this for example https://archive.nyafuu.org/vt/thread/15016858/#15016858

>> No.16883498

>>16883438
It's a streamer simulator that came out yesterday. I'm pretty sure screnshots from it will be spammed for years to come because it's basically "What if rrats were real: the videogame".

>> No.16883540

>>16883498
man i can't believe a world where all my favorite vtubers weren't actually pure and cute girls who all loved their fans unconditionally, it would literally end me

>> No.16883571

>>16882808
>>16880656
This game is trying too hard. Has all the subtlety of a brick.

>> No.16883572

>>16883498
Seems interesting. I will look into this ogey factory simulator.

>> No.16883688

>>16883494
That one seems more legitimate

>> No.16883711

>>16882209
because Ame has imposter syndrome and people with this tend to think that the people showing their appreciation to them that they do feel deserving of, are not being genuine for what ever reason. Plus Ame tends to be the least trusting of their audience in Myth and possibly EN.

>> No.16883748

>>16883171
You will never be a wife.

>> No.16883791

>>16881923
What the fuck do you know? Dumb weeaboo

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>>16878781
Just follow vtubers that are honest to their fans anon

>> No.16884622

>>16880570
As much as shit people give to Festival, she at least doesnt seem like someone who talk shit about her fans. Also phew, Suisei is safe.

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>>16880570
take the indogpill /vt/bros.
ollie did had a tangent but it actually culled the uneducated.
their views also small, so a lot more chance to get your messages seen. also some of them are /here/, both holos and nijis.
also indogs kinda follow every other indogs, so they knows a lot of 2views and indies, that's why Ollie able to get 60 calls in her birthday

>> No.16884677

>>16882125
I don't always watch her, but when I saw this moment I know she is a good girl and not even /jp/ can deny it.
https://streamable.com/16i6ff

>> No.16884732

>>16880570
gura.....
mori....
kronii....
50% of jp.....

>> No.16884766

>>16882103
Defeatist mentality.

>> No.16884790

>>16878781
they all should hate their fans

>> No.16884820

>>16884646
HoloID is unironically great and it's a shame they're debuffed so hard just by their labeling.

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>>16879859
Yes they should.

>> No.16885055

>>16878781
You are not paranoic anon, you just had a glimpse behind the veil

>> No.16885159

>>16881956
Kronii's getting a little better....

>> No.16885219

>>16883494
I love how the people who are against of that OP keeps proving the point he's making

>> No.16885312

>>16878781
>not taking the indie pill
>not getting recognized by name by your oshi everytime you comment on chat
>not being on her discord
>not joining her on voice calls while playing games together
It's like you corporate simps are trying to suffer

>> No.16885320

>>16885159
Kronii is understandable. At first people went into her just because of her tits and voice and egosearching must have been awful. Just a bunch of coomers. Now that she traded her tits for a cute pet I feel she can start delivering better content since people don't just blatantly see her as a sex object while her personality is one of the least sexual I have ever seen

>> No.16885324

>>16881626
She gives way too much back to her audience for me to dismiss her as being that way. Someone who keeps trying to innovate their own content doesn't strike me as someone who doesn't respect their fanbase to some degree.

>> No.16885412

>>16885324
That can be out of her insecurity. Everyone else in myth is very noticeably talented and/or skilled in something specific. Everyone but her. So innovating and going the distance is the way she has to close that gap with her genmates. Not out of love for her fans but out of insecurities about her self worth given the chance she was given

>> No.16885503

>>16883171
> instead of getting experience, taking courses, educate
> he lacks the critical information

>> No.16885556
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>>16880570
So la creatividad Vtuber is safe!!!

>> No.16885585

>>16881626
Ame gets frustrated with her audience sometimes but I don't think she hates them or thinks of them as being losers or anything

>> No.16885639

>>16885324
>>16885412
Ame most definitely enjoys it, but I wouldn't be surprised if she's experiencing a bit of burnout. She's done a great deal in terms of going the extra mile.

>> No.16885765

>>16885585
Probably not but for sure she's very wary of the bad eggs. She's made a point multiple times to be very careful in interacting with fan content creators she gets to do her extra content.
>>16885412
Likely too but something tells me not entirely. She rounds up way too many fan creators to help her do stuff to say she hates her fanbase enough.

>> No.16885884

>>16885639
Her management keeps cockblocking her innoffensive streaming ideas and when they do allow her to go all out, they'd give the most minimal of support for her. If I was in her position, I'd be frustrated too. I still wonder why Omegatranny has his fucking position.

>> No.16885916

It's okay you can just watch Amelia and Ina and have vtubers who hate you while they're streaming and you won't have these problems with your uWu girl who loves cocks.

>> No.16885979

>>16884677
What does that clip have to do with Amelia laughing at her fans behind the scenes?

>> No.16885984

>>16880570
Women never enjoy what they do. That vtuber game is realistic. Women are merely creatures that think they're exceedingly smart and special and men are dumb for giving them money (but will throw the biggest tantrum ever if the money is cut off). There's a reason that Hesiod, Socrates, Buddha and Kong Fuzi all considered them useless thots.

>> No.16886027

>>16884677
If Ame cared more about numbers she wouldn't be such a shitty streamer who consistently blows off scheduled streams because tummy hort. Contrary to what globalfags think being a numberfag is a GOOD thing for a streamer because if they care about their performance metrics then they'll do a better job, which is good for you, the person consuming the product.

>> No.16886187

>>16885984
Swap the word "women" for "men" in your post and you can find that exact same post in Crystal Cafe

Truth is, social misfits seldom have good interactions with the opposite sex so their pessimistic world views about the other gender get confirmed every day. Ugly women have it awful because no one takes them seriously since they are women and also they still get judged mostly by their appearance. At least you can find plenty successful goblin looking motherfuckers, since men are mostly judged by their skills and connections, good luck finding successful women that are below a 4/10

>> No.16886213

What if they do sometimes because we're humans and we can be insufferable and that's just a bit of minor inconvenience that doesn't affect their love for you, nor does it affect how good of a person you actually are OP?

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>>16886187
No, Aristotle was right about women. Don't fall into the trap of thinking this is a modern issue, the nature of women has been known for millennia.

>> No.16886374

>>16885765
>Probably not but for sure she's very wary of the bad eggs. She's made a point multiple times to be very careful in interacting with fan content creators she gets to do her extra content.
True. That's just common sense, though.

>> No.16886617

>>16886187
>crystal cafe
No one gives a shit what thots think, sorry you're just not that important sweatie.

>muh men are the real problem
Men are the ones that built everything around you and produce actual goods. Women exist to sell pictures of their tits and then complain everyone considers them a whore. Now fuck off.

>> No.16886776

>>16882781
that's just her adhd mate our brain work a bit different

>> No.16887061

>>16882103
>improving is for losers

>> No.16887181

>>16878781
Oh I am sure most chuubas absolutely despise everyone on /vt/ when they see how some of us talk about their colleagues and friends.

>> No.16887659

>>16885312
She's doing the same with 10 other guys lol

>> No.16887799

>>16887181
I don't talk shit or engage in gossip. There is ONE vtuber I criticize and that's mostly because I secretly want her to improve. I talk shit but I always also say how she can improve because I want her to read it and prove me wrong. I know it's a bit of schizo shit but whatever. I want her to read it and see how people that don't simp her and gobble whatever she streams think

>> No.16887821 [DELETED] 

>>16878860
>Find an oshi that spends her time interacting with her community
So no one lol

>> No.16887923

>>16887799
For your ohi, you're just anoher Anon. No different from the one that called her friend a whore last week. I hope my Oshi will never have the displeasure to visit this place.

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>>16881280
>Mumei
???
She's really sweet to her audience, to the point of constantly making random tweets, twitter spaces and sometimes even guerilla streams on days where she mentioned she was going to be busy and not be able to deliver, just so she can keep the interaction going. She also lets the audience know well in advance when she's not going to show up or when something's up.
Also checks pretty much all the boxes in this post >>16880570

>> No.16888077

>>16878781
No need to be paranoid, every sane vtuber does

>> No.16888119

>>16880570
It's clear that Ina really hates her fans. She never tries.

>> No.16888360

>>16878781
Whoever your oshi is

She hates (You)

>> No.16888403

>>16878781
You played the vtuber game didn't you....

>> No.16888430

>>16888119
The reason that rrat in particular stayed for so long is because she has never done a single thing that proves it otherwise. She has literally never gone the distance for her fans nor does she interact with them at all. Personally I don't think she hates them but she can't be bothered to waste time pleasing people that she sees below her.

>> No.16888477

They don't care about you enough to "hate" you and this goes for every streamer except for the ones who are extremely mentally ill and even then if they "hated" you they'd probably just ban you

>> No.16889176

>>16885312
Indie or not, at the end of the day you're just a rando on the internet that happens to give them money.
>not getting recognized by name by your oshi everytime you comment on chat
>not joining her on voice calls while playing games together
Must be really sad living your life treasuring recognition from a person you're never going to meet or interact in any truly significant way.

>> No.16889310

The vtuber-fan relationship is a two-way dance where the vtuber pretends that their fans aren't lonely weirdos and the fan pretends that his oshi isn't living her life outside of streams. Thinking about what they do off-stream is as much stepping on your partner's toes as was Ina calling her viewers losers.

>> No.16889349

>>16878860
sounds like laplus

>> No.16889409

Hating? Like geniue hatred? Minority, tiny minority.

Absolutely not giving fuck? Absolute Majority. You're random guy, you're not special. You're one of 100s, 1000s, etc.

>> No.16889453

>>16882586
Holokeks RUMAO

>> No.16889521

>>16886187
>social misfits seldom have good interactions with the opposite sex so their pessimistic world views about the other gender get confirmed every day.
Fuck no. The people that mistreat women the most are other women and men who fuck around a lot.

>> No.16889524

>>16885984
>That vtuber game
Which game?

>> No.16889531

>>16889409
Absolutely, you'd have to be retarded to think any of them care about (You) as an individual, but thanking the fanbase as a whole and being grateful and all of that, there are some that are clear in showing that they appreciate the support and others that clearly do not give a fuck.

>> No.16889595

>>16889524
This one:
>>16880656
>>16882808

>> No.16889812

>>16882586
>when people show you alternatives, you dismiss them.

Oh ok, ima check the recomendations!!! OH WOW, THEY ACT THE SAME WAY SO MANY OTHERS DO, SO GROUNDBREAKING AND INSPIRING!!!!

Vtubing itself is stagnating, watched a few you watched them all.

>> No.16890007

>>16883183
this. avoid those whores and shitters at all costs.

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>>16883183

>> No.16890165

>>16889812
This honestly. Hololive is at the top because they represent the best of the best vtubers who actually offer unique and interesting content compared to everyone else.

>> No.16890227

>>16888119

I one day hope she does a proper ASMR stream, please give us some fan service

>> No.16890368

>>16890165
I'm the anon you're responding to and I gotta tell you that's a retarded take anon. What I can tell you is that people tend to change to Hololive because of the so called holobubble and the restrictions so the girls don't go too wild, of course unless you're haachama.

I 10000000% prefer Gura going you DINGUS!!! instead of : ''OH MY GOD SUCK MY CUM DRIPPING DICK YOU ABSOLUTE RETARD''

>> No.16890542

>>16889812
they're not supposed to be groundbreaking or inspiring, just fun to watch
Most of HoloJP are competent and entertaining streamers while HoloEN has... Amelia and Kiara?

>> No.16890579

>>16886278
Aristotle sounds like a typical incel here

>> No.16890797

>>16881737
I feel like that is one of the big benefits NijiEN got from hiring indies. They got a load of people that actually love to stream and it shows in the amount of hours they put in. With people like Elira and Selen who regularly put in some of the higher amounts of hours in the industry week to week and pump out 6+ hour streams day to day like its nothing.

>> No.16890829

>>16890542
And people should't find kiara or amelia entertaining because......?

>> No.16890934

>>16880570
So Mori and Kronii basically?

>> No.16891082

>>16890542
Kiara always showers her fans with love, spends several hours going on tangents while reading supas, and often responds to literallywhos on twitter not just other high profile ecelebs or artists. She doesn't discriminates and I wish i liked her more because she does give back a lot even to the regular folk.

>> No.16891292

>>16880570
gura after telling everyone she drops everything after streaming to an extent

>> No.16891337
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16891337

>>16880570
Kfp bros, we safe

>> No.16891447

>>16880570
yep... that's my shark oshi

>> No.16891496

>>16891447
Thanks for outing yourself as a clipwatcher faggot.

>> No.16891703

>>16882103
Absolute delusion

>> No.16891737

>>16891496
Besides "doesn't go on tangents" they all fit, especially lately. and I mean we've heard it straight out of her mouth. she called us "work" and actively tries to avoid anything related to streaming or her fans on her (many) off days.

>> No.16891776

>>16888430
After that room cleaning stream, which I noped out of when it began to make me gag, I suspect what she hates about her listeners are things she hates about herself.

>> No.16891846

>>16883711
Ame doesn't trust teamates because she was hit by the Amecalypse so early on. Took her over 15 months to play tf2 because she was that paranoid.

>> No.16891863

>>16878781
Most people don't but you might have a good 6th sense about people.

>> No.16891866

>>16891496
it all fits. stop being in denial sir. she even said it herself

>> No.16891962

>>16878860
Kson

>> No.16892046

>>16879737
>Aki
> Haachama
> exist

I found them already

>> No.16892095

>>16891846
Then she was doxxed while playing TF2 so I don't blame her paranoia

>> No.16892124

>>16882586
Or Kson

>> No.16892217

>>16884646
Mooner is my only oshi since day one, anon

>> No.16892258

>>16880793
>>16881956
>>16884732
look at this samefag concern troll

ignoring the fact that gura likes hanging out with her chat, and usually prefers it to playing games, where do you get this delusional bullshit.

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>>16881737
I can't tweet anything without my EN small corpo oshi catching it lol

>> No.16892479

>>16881956
Ayame is very chatty with her fans though

>> No.16893568

>>16883268
The thread wasn't bait, I just have no self confidence even after a decade working on myself and feel depressed that women pretending to be anime girls see me as nothing more than a pathetic POS who is good for nothing but providing them $ and attention

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>>16887928
Sharpen your intuition, hooman...

>> No.16893879

>>16893568
Why do you even care about what some women pretending to be anime girls for a horde of lonely manchildren think about you? Do good for your fellow man, make connections even if virtual(1 on 1, not parasocial) and be an upstanding person for those that care about you. Fuck what all these womanchild think about their audiences, they don't know you, and they don't know that you can be a top lad too

>> No.16893962

>>16893568
>basing your self-worth on the opinion of thots
Dude.

>> No.16893974

Irys literally injured herself because she loved her chat so much. Take the nephilim pill

>> No.16894176

>>16893974
I did. She's great. I feel loved as part of the audience for once. I hope she gets well soon and her real life issues don't stress her much

>> No.16894471

>>16893974
Irys is just a simple farm girl compared to other holosharks like Rushia or Sakamata

>> No.16894658

>>16893879
I crave positive attention from women because I've tried everything else and am still miserable.

>> No.16895015

>>16893568
>he fell for the improover meme
I told you none of that shit matters and women only care about your genes.

>> No.16895199

>>16882103
"Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them."
Even a 16th century Englishman had a more comprehensive view of greatness and how to achieve it than you, a 21st century man with a comprehensive database of humanity's collected knowledge at his finger tips.
Maybe you should try some of that self-improvement that you look down upon so haughtily.

>> No.16895282

>>16887181
That's different though, because there are people here genuinely want to harm vtubers.

>> No.16895308

>>16878781
stop being a parasocial schizo

>> No.16895342

>>16895015
Look at Arnold's 2 sons and tell me it's just about the genes and nothing else

>> No.16895391

>>16895282
What makes you think its just here? Hell most of our schizos get dirt from the indog facebook groups.

>> No.16895900

>>16883571
it's also not exactly based on vtubers even because the streamer in the game wears a wig and makeup, although the TL clearly watches vtubers. it's really more akin to some of the you-know-who twitch streamers that do bathtub streams and shit.
it's fun but it's about as much of a distortion of reality this website is.

>> No.16895974

>>16895900
>it's about as much of a distortion of reality this website is.
So it's a mostly accurate depiction?

>> No.16896260

>>16895342
NTA, I don't follow celebrities. I assume they're not as renown as their dad?

>> No.16896808

>>16896260
His son with a Kennedy is a fat slob.
His bastard son with his spic maid is a chad.

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>>16878781
Get a life, anon.

>> No.16897892

>>16886617
Incels revealing themselves

>> No.16898110

>>16897892
>if you don't want to fuck my hole, you're an incel

No I'm just voluntarily avoiding you, cunt. Fucking deal with it and fuck off back to your feminist version of 4chan.

>> No.16898199

>>16898110
>I'm avoiding you
FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

LMAO

>> No.16898259

>>16898199
>FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
calm down; it's just words.

>> No.16898309

>>16898259
>No, I'm not mad, you are!

Ok anon, have a good day.

>> No.16898668

>>16889176
This. Find a real gf.

>> No.16898702

>>16889310

Fuckin accurate >>16889409

>> No.16898753

a few poster here are unironic incles
thats pretty funny

>> No.16898829

>>16889310
>>16889409
>>16889531
Accurate. Hilarious to see how delusional some fans are.
>She’s just like me, she stays inside and doesn’t have a life

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>>16889310
Who are you calling a loser?

>> No.16898875

>>16878781
Do you watch vtubers for the characters or the person behind the character? If the latter then you're doing it wrong.

>> No.16898919

>>16878781
You're paying money to DM a girl and have her be obligated to respond. And it's not even the real them, but an anime persona they inhabit.

How could they NOT look down on their fans?

>> No.16899131

>>16898919
>his oshi doesn't scold him when he sends empty akasupas or SCs spurred by a perceived financial necessity
Maybe you lot just need to find a better cartoon girl to pine for.

>> No.16899160

>>16895900
I mean it's based on net idols which are more or less the precursors to vtubers, which is why so much stuff in the game applies to vtubers too.

>> No.16899208

>>16898668
There are plenty of great women out there. Unfortunately, most of them found a long term partner in high school/college. I don't think most normalfags (who realistically are the vast majority of what is left over & are going to be easily findable whether that is through dating apps or places to meet new people) are fun to be around or interact with, and what's the point of dating someone you don't like being around?

>> No.16899973

>>16878781
take your meds, then.

>> No.16900442

>>16880570
good post. ignore the seething holoEN fags

>> No.16900930

>>16899131
I don't send Akasupas to her, but I watch a smaller vtuber and most streams I will send her a few bucks with a blank message just because I like her streams but don't have anything particularly insightful to say and don't feel the need to say something generic "thanks for the fun stream". Is that considered weird/condescending?

>> No.16901032

>>16895974
You don't really believe that

>> No.16901352

>>16893698
I'm not a hooman
but sure

>> No.16903049

>>16879822
I don't understand how people can even stand hololive after holoen debuted.

>> No.16903220

>>16878781
You really need to get a life, dude.

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