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Previously >>16825568

>> No.16837236

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

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16837282

>FBK during december

>> No.16837286

A poll from /hlgg/
>Mori
https://poal.me/d1xr5t
>Kiara
https://poal.me/9tu6uk
>Ina
https://poal.me/w7pbcx
>Ame
https://poal.me/z8x4uk
>Gura
https://poal.me/ff1n0z

>> No.16837370

>>16837223
based

>> No.16837677

>>16837286
>Kiara more liked than Mori
Literally proof that /vt/ is a hivemind and changes opinions on a whim

>> No.16837690

Since Myth and ID1 are participating in Holofes then should we assume their 3D debut in March? If so then March is going to be ultra stacked for Hololive in general. Multiple birthdays from Council + IRyS, Miko/Suisei bday, and events to lead up to the big live concert.

>> No.16837765

>>16837690
No.
I don't think that they'll be doing a proper 3s debut until they get to Japan, but it might be the case of them showcasing the model at the Fes first like Marine and Suisei did for their 3d models.
I'm certain the original plan was for Myth to do their 3d debuts and then be a part of the Fes in person, but....yea, new variant..

>> No.16837774

>>16837677
Boomgey

>> No.16837778

>>16837690
They can also go Holofes1/Nijisanji way where they shows Myth and ID1 3D for Holofes3 first and then the proper "debut" later.

>> No.16837882

>>16837765
Japan is open for business travellers, so it might not be that far out of the question.

>> No.16837909

>>16837690
Them participating does not mean it's in full on 3D, no, but if omicron has a quick fall like in other countries and Japan opens its own borders, I think they'll try to have their 3D debuts before this event, and go full 3D here as well. Depends on the restrictions basically

>> No.16837936

>>16837690
Expect the worse, hope for the best. As long as you keep your expectations low, you will never be disappointed.

>> No.16837942

>>16837882
It's not until at least February

>> No.16837989

>>16837882
https://www.mofa.go.jp/ca/fna/page4e_001053.html nope

>> No.16838021

>>16837909
It could even be like Kanata's Live where she baited everyone with special guest Mori and there was only her voice.

>> No.16838076

https://youtu.be/LyakqutKBpM

Chloe return stream has a waiting room now. But... no SCs enabled?

>> No.16838104

>>16838021
We can probe gura is she streams later. I assume there will be some sort of backlash if they do that.

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16838123

I keep getting this ad and it makes me think of you guys. Thought you might find it useful.

>> No.16838165

>>16837909
They'll come up with another version even if that happens.

>> No.16838175

>>16838104
I expect them to sing along in their Live 2D on-screen. Home 3D is too low quality and spoils their actual debut.

>> No.16838322

>>16838076
>ただいま、少しだけ
Makes me think this isn't quite a proper return just yet, either she's leaving them off for this stream to really edge her fans for when she's ready to comeback fully or she'll switch them on at the start of the stream to get everyone SCing at the same time and amplify that bandwagon effect

>> No.16838382

>>16838123
It goes in all fields

>> No.16838570
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>> No.16838766

>>16838570
Please let my Pink Lamy gain enough subs later so that she will have a easily endurance stream on Sunday.

>> No.16838803

>>16838322
yea I thought the same

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16838922

How much pekora will get if she gets the permissions for this game?

>> No.16838960

>>16838922
100k

>> No.16838986

>>16838570
It's been so damn long since someone last hit 1 million subs after everyone's growth slowed so much in the last half of 2021, at least we'll have a bunch soon with 8 Holomen over 900k but Moona isn't due for over a month still. Lamy, Nene and Flare will especially get ridiculous superchats so I'm looking forward to them getting there.

>> No.16839261

>>16837909
>>16837942
>>16837989
https://www.japanvisa.com/visas/japan-entertainer-visa
What about this type of Visa.
If Cover care enough that is.

>> No.16839582

credit to where credit's due for nijien male for reaching over 20k but fuck me the seafujo/that one retard who were spamming on cooldown made the thread unbearable. if you are doing it unironically, they do realize that is the reason why no one takes them seriously, right?

>> No.16839633

>>16839261
they dont qualify in any

>> No.16839671

>>16839261
kek, vtubing isn’t considered any of that anon. Kanata disclosed that she couldn’t even open a bank account because what she does isn’t considered “gainful employment” to qualify for one.

>> No.16839694

>>16839582
at this point it doesnt surprise me how obnoxious niji en fans can be

>> No.16839726

>>16839633
>>16839671
idk i heard mori hold that one after her previous visa expired.

>> No.16839765

>>16839726
She’s a proper flesh and bones singer and likely got one through that avenue

>> No.16839831

>>16838922
I don’t think it’s her type of game. Her domain is RPG and games where you have to manage resources, yes I mean number games

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16840265

Oh Hololyzer updated, it's still a little lower than last year's countdown but obviously a whole lot of money

>> No.16840386

>>16840265
I attribute the across the board decline in SC on “member free SC”. It gives one thing SC can’t
>membership length bragging rights

>> No.16840389

>>16839671
Japanese banking system is pants on head retarded.

>> No.16840523

>>16840389
It is, but I understand that particular point. Even in the west, replace “streamer” with “influencer” and the perception is the same
>is that even a job?

Except in the west they not only allow any retard to have a bank account but given them a credit card and a limit larger than they could ever possibly pay

>> No.16840539

>>16840386
There hasn't been an across the board decline in superchats

>> No.16840600

>>16839582
I noticed that some of the male NijiJP told people to watch his stream so that's probably where they came from.

>> No.16840773

>>16840600
is it also possible that there were no big overlaps for Ike? the usually big nijijp male streamers didn't/couldn't stream.

>> No.16840897
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16840897

https://www.family.co.jp/campaign/spot/2201_hololive_cp.html
I might be late but this is another collab.

>> No.16840933

>>16840773

NijiJP in general has been streaming way less in general recently. Not only the ones who did reps for the concert or got the flu, but other chuubas as well. It's actually a fucking good moment for Luxiem just spam streams at JP time

>> No.16840984

>>16840897
Really late but nice to see that most collabs have a balance of popularity.

>> No.16841062

>>16840897
Lots of namori lately. Is she popular besides Yuru Yuri?

>> No.16841063

>>16840897
This is 100% a sort of draft pick
>Sponsor picks one
>Then Cover picks one

Sponsor
>My first pic is Aqua
Cover
>Mel
Sponsor
>Subaru
Cover
>Choco
Sponsor
>Ayame
Cover
>Aki

And then the team is made

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>>16841063
>no chuuba left behind act
is Yagoo George W. Bush?

>> No.16841202

>>16841063
NO HOLO LEFT BEHIND™

>> No.16841226

>>16841063
eh Choco and Mel being ChocoMelty probably had more to do with them getting into a sweets sponsorship

>> No.16841311

>>16840523
If you have money you should be able to get a bank account, that's the purpose of bank accounts.

>> No.16841340

>>16841063
I remember Subaru self-sabotaging in the Curry Meshi collab with the two "big names"
Now she's inclined past one of them and soon the other

>> No.16841496

>>16839694
They are going to do what ever they can to fan the flames after enduring whatever this board has subjected them to.

>> No.16841520
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16841520

Mysta and Ike are ranking in Nijishop again. I think we can safely say these two have the biggest JP fanbase.

>> No.16841563

>>16839582
they cracked 20k? i took 2 days off since most of the boards been borderline unusable.

>> No.16841584

>>16839694
Just like nijiJP...
>>16841063
Wouldn't be surprising, Cover makes sure everyone is fed.

>> No.16841767

>>16841520

>Both of them ahead of the EdenGumi Goods

Ononono....

>> No.16841780

>>16841563
it was very impressive but the ironic and unironically spam posts by SEA fujos left a sour taste in a lot of people's mouths.

>> No.16841901

>>16841780
oh sounds like the night Mysta first broke 10k+ the threads were god awful, i was impressed by Mysta but any discussion or praise that couldve been sung over it was drowned by im assuming 2 or 3 people on cooldowning 3 threads in a row killing any desire to care at that point.

>> No.16841927

>>16840933
Since they're pretty much sharing the same audience than they might as well. The thing is, Nijisanji has an insanely weak mid-tier. They could probably position themselves in that slot but the question then would be if they can keep this audience long term after they've run out of buffs that they can use. They can't exactly take advantage of the current APEX resurgance since even JP fujos aren't exactly into that kind of content. Another would be what happens when either Wave 5 (which I bet is going to be majority males) or the new JP Wave (also going to be majority males) debuts?

>> No.16842029

>>16841780
Only because you morons take the bait, the faggots shilling them are annoying but for every one of those there's a dozen Holo EN tribalfags who act like they're the spawn of satan for being male

>> No.16842030

>>16839831
She was getting more the 30k in mgs streams

>> No.16842089

>>16842030
She got 50k for the MGS finale when that was absolutely unheard of for anything but the biggest 3D reveals and full company collabs

>> No.16842128

>>16842089
*MGS4 finale

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>>16842029
it's not even retards taking baits. with enough shitposters ironically posting about nijien male, the delusional fujos will come and unironically believe it one day.

>> No.16842356

>>16841927

>if they can keep this audience long term after they've run out of buffs that they can use

Yeah that's what I'm curious about it as well. The timing with the low output from NijiJP in general + them doing more on JP time was perfect but if most of the big JP males start streaming regularly again that timeslot will not be that free for them anymore.

>either Wave 5 (which I bet is going to be majority males) or the new JP Wave (also going to be majority males) debuts

Probably one of the biggest bloodbath in overlaps ever

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16842360

>>16842089
Her SC were crazy

>> No.16842402

>>16842360
One of the reasons Konami got so salty

>> No.16842450

>>16842360
that was due to the shitstorm with china

>> No.16842469

>>16840600
Yes, Hayato tweeted about his stream. Ike had 16k at the time, and then after it he got to 22k

>> No.16842503

>>16841927
Spamming waves will just eventually makes their fanbase even more scattered and divided. Right now Luxiem dominates SEA fujos but after 2 more waves they will just fall into irrelevance, joining group with other 1k livers in Niji.

>> No.16842513

>>16839671
>>16839633
Kanata didn't properly explain her income and the bank thought she was a gig worker. And im pretty sure she was talking about opening a credit card at her bank, not the bank account itself.
Gig work is perfectly fine for the entertainer visa.

Holofest is a musical performance so they could probably qualify under that.

>> No.16842630

>>16842503
cant wait to go back to this much like you faggots were saying months ago that they would be 2views. kek

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16842648

>>16842469

>13k likes

jesas

>> No.16842691

>>16842648
that's the average for niji

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16842693

what is this?

>> No.16842741

>>16842648
that is actually low for niji

>> No.16842797

>>16842693
English Buffer.

>> No.16842800
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16842800

Ange is coming to collab with Wosemi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY0CHNBr_Sw

Might be the next NijiEN 10k, except CVID still hitting NijiEN, the time is kinda bad for Ange's audience and she doesn't get 10k for her zatsus this month either.

>> No.16842839

>>16842693
Honest question? This is the convention that Hololive 3rd fest is happening during.

>> No.16842847

>>16842693
where have you been for the last 9 hours?

>> No.16842868

>>16842356
So under the almost very best conditions possible (no bday/celebration buff iirc), 22k~ is the peak then.

>> No.16842870

>>16842800
>on rosemis channel
waste

>> No.16842895

>>16842800
I don't expect it to get 10k. I only expect the Niji EN men to do so. If it does hit it then it's a pleasant surprise.

>> No.16842908

>>16842693
Hololive killer

>> No.16842916

Both selene and rosemi took like 10 min to get her waiting rooms.

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16843054

>>16842800
She has a severe case of the disease, I doubt that she will be able to

>> No.16843067

>>16842916
*Selen and finana

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16843112

lol

>> No.16843296

>>16843112
They just mistyped and left out some zeroes...

>> No.16843580

>>16842503
ive given up trying to guess how nijiEN males will perform with new waves since first one blew my expectations out. My only guess would be they wont be ass successful since the first wave will have soaked up their diehards pretty well at that point.

>> No.16843668

>>16842839
Why the fuck the stars are here? It's honest question btw
>>16842847
Sleeping

>> No.16843776

>>16843668
Even in LA you would have seen this in the catalog hours ago.

You from Hawaii anon?

>> No.16843939

>>16842503
It's hard to predict since often times each new wave release had successively more viewers upon debut. We don't know if a new male wave will draw in more people due to the buzz from Luxiem or not. The only thing that could be said is that they can probably get away with debuting 5/6 more guys.

>> No.16843967

>>16843668
Because the convention will have merch (most likely) of all Holopro members.

>> No.16844318

>>16838570
I kind of forgot that Matsuri hit 1m given how low her ccv is compared to the other 1m+ girls

>> No.16844437

>>16834280
If what this anon said is true.
Ame sold 6 more full sets from when he posted to right now ($47.75 each)

>> No.16844981

>>16842630
It's not exactly a hot take. Wave 3 tanked hard, and without Selen Wave 2 would be a failure. Now to be fair, I'm of the opinion that they can do 1 more quick wave debut (5 guys) to not only make the roster an even 10:10 split between the boys and girls but also to take advantage of Luxiems momentum. After that though, extending the interval of debuts to 6 months instead of 3-4 would be ideal. NijiJP has already shown that flooding the market is not the best strat.

>> No.16845131

>>16844981
we have seen what overlaps do between the boys. they getting 5 more people in jp timeslot is asking for troubles.

>> No.16845178

>>16838570
Interesting. Koyori, Aqua, Ayame, and Matsuri are all increasing at about the same rate. Although I imagine Aqua is about to jump up some

>> No.16845340

>>16844437
Luna
Fullset: 642 sold @ 87.54 = $56,200.68
Rubbermat: 674 sold @ 23.87 = $16,088.38
Acrylic Stand: 17 sold @ 47.75 = $811.75
Polishing Cloth: 461 sold @ 3.98 = $1,834.78
Pin Badge: 691 sold @ 11.94 = $8,250.54
Total: $83,186.13

Pekora:
Fullset: 3997 @ 119.37 = $477,121.89
Acrylic Stand: 568 @ 27.85 = $15,818.80
Rubbermat/Card Sleeves 3040 @ 31.83 = $96,763.20
Notepad/Ballpoint Pen 1207 @ 11.94 = $14,411.58
Plushie 1083 @ 47.75 = $51,713.25
Total: $655,828.72

>> No.16845472

>>16843054
Nah. That's inline with her latest medians.

>> No.16845816

>>16840600
Did they? Well that explains it. They really were tourists, lol. Another hilarious thing is that they NEVER did anything like that for the girls. Manjisanji indeed.

>> No.16845896

>>16838922
She's literally horny for Raiden so 45/50k ok average and 95 if not 100k for the final battle.

>> No.16846138

>>16845340
Watame: 2nd Anni
Full Set: 2724 @ 79.58 = 216,775.92
Watame no Uta vol.2: 1200 @ 26.26 = 31,512
Booklet: 466 @ 9.55 = 4,450.30
Acrylic LED Light: 231 @ 35.81 = 8,272.11
Total: $261,010.33

Nene: 800k Subs
Full Set: 2200 @ 41.38 = 91,036.00
Nene Key Chain: 500 @ 4.77 = 2,385
Nekko Key Chain: 272 @ 8.75 = 2,380
Bottle: 208 @ 27.85 = 5,792.80
Total: $101,593.80

>> No.16846140

>>16845340
Do IRyS

She just had a merch drop

>> No.16846244
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16846244

I kept seeing this girl up high in the SC rankings the last few weeks so I wondered who she was, turns out she collabed with kson a few times then one of her biggest oil barons changed his oshi to her and is now more or less singlehandedly propelling her up the SC chart spamming a bunch of akas every stream. She's at over $19k for the month so far which is more than a lot of mid-tier Holos.

>> No.16846316

>>16846244
So Kson lost an oil baron to a girl she was trying to help?
Kinda funny if true.

>> No.16846366
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16846366

After the recent results by the boys the performance of the girls
>pic related
even if slightly improved from the disastrous days of Ethyria debut, is an indictment to the girls in that company and branch.

Clock is ticking for all of them and if they don't prove themselves NijiEN will obviously go full blown "manjisanji"

>> No.16846442

>>16846366
Finana?

>> No.16846494

>>16846366
They are reclining hard. The management better offer them more support or else these girls would all leave like most of the their top talents.

>> No.16846537

>>16846140
IRyS: Half Year
Key Chain: 770 @ 15.91 = 12,250.70
CD: 773 @ 17.51 = 13,535.23
Vinyl: 554 @ 26.26 = 14,548.04
Casette: 250 @ 17.51 = 4,377.50
Total: $44,711.47

Other than the keychain, she basically sold her album 3 times.

>> No.16846569

>>16842870
it's on both rosemi and ange channels

>> No.16846661

>>16846494
> most of their top talents
> only lulu, bora and gibara did out of more than 40-50 top

>> No.16846715

>>16846494
There's no "more support". They all have the same conditions. but what to even say in the hololive thread.

>> No.16846764

>>16846366
i dont thin is just the girls themselves. overall this week seems reallylow for most people am afraid there might have been some changes into the algo.

>> No.16846817

>>16846715
Anon, he is saying management SHOULD give them more support, not that they are doing it already

>> No.16846884

>>16846764
>overall this week seems reallylow for most people
Anon, Ike got fucking 20k today. It's not "low for most people", only for selected streamers.
It's not impossible that it is a cluster of CCVID but could unironically be just natural recline

>> No.16847055

1.6k waiting for Watson 15 minutes prior to the stream.
Probably scratching 10k, I'm not seeing it higher.
There's something fishy about her numbers lately, it's hard to believe that her audience fucked off all of a sudden after a week-long break.

>> No.16847111

>>16846884
Ike gets shit on regular streams. The LoL collab was awfully low, the curretn streams are awfully low.
i think the EN scene seems weaker but also seems like a drastic change over like 2 weeks.i feel like either notifiactions are not coming out or the algo isnt pushing vtubers as hard anymore.
>>16847055
what time she put the stream frame

>> No.16847127

>>16847055
>it's hard to believe that her audience fucked off all of a sudden after a week-long break.
It's not. See: Haachama.

There are only so many breaks a streamer can take until she gets left with only the die hard long time green names

>> No.16847162

>>16847055
Did you take a week long break? CCVID is still around and EN is still infected by it.

>> No.16847174

>>16846817
the point is that the girls already have support in the same way the males do.

>> No.16847189

>>16846715
Not that I agree with the previous anon, but the problem is that they're all getting the same support when it's obvious that the girls need even more than the guys since they're getting overshadowed by them. I personally don't subscribe to that thinking since trying to polish a rock is futile. NijiEN Wave 1-3 isn't a failure but they're pretty much the absolute minimum that a big Corpo can still it's EN branch a success. The fact that they literally grinded their asses off (which I give them props for) and they still couldn't beat Sana is proof of that.

>> No.16847223

>>16847127
hachama took a month

>> No.16847247

>>16846884
We now know Ike got tweeted out by NijiJP males who weren't streaming. He had a ton of tourists on that 20k due to that. Those will not be regular viewers.

>> No.16847259

>>16847127
Comparison with Haachama is kinda stupid, her breaks were much longer.

>> No.16847277

>>16847174
And anon is saying management should give them a leg up. Leaving them to wither and die would make sense on a branch with 90 streamers like the JP but not in one with 20.

>> No.16847299

>>16847189
They aren't getting the same support. NijiJP tweeted out Ike's stream last night and they have never done that for the EN girls.

>> No.16847313

>>16847055
>1.6k waiting for Watson 15 minutes prior to the stream.
>Probably scratching 10k, I'm not seeing it higher.
I don't think you can use waiting rooms to understand how high a stream will go after Gura had an 11k waiting room with a 12k stream peak.

>> No.16847372

>>16846537
>well over 1,000 albums sold
That seems good

>> No.16847395

>>16847247
May not be regulars but I won't discount the possibility that they start prioritizing his Karaoke streams when none of the top Niji's are streaming. Moona averages around 1-2k(?) for her just chatting streams but can break 10k on karaokes.

>> No.16847408

>>16847189
It just shows how weak the niji brand is for female talents. It’s a given that all of them have applied for HL auditions, eventually the most talented ones will jump ship one by one, resulting in a cocoon of manjosanji they’re so famous for.

>> No.16847577

>>16847223
>>16847259
Haachama took multiple breaks, announced and unannounced. It's not the length of the break, it's the fact the audience can no longer build their schedule around watching that streamer.

There are lots of VOD watchers and lots of clip watchers but only a (comparative) few live stream watchers, with two types
>tourists that check whoever is on
>die hards that try not to miss a stream

I'll use Haachama as an example because she's my oshi: back in 2020 you could count on her streams in a certain slot either daily or mostly.
That made it easy to schedule my routine to incline watching her daily stream, and to catch her special stream on Sunday.

Nowadays I can't catch her streams live and, even when I can, she either deliberately or accidentally makes it very hard by cancelling streams she scheduled or doing guerilla streams unannounced and in odd hours, or shifting stream time back or forward seemingly at random.

There is a reason Pekora has the audience she has: mainichi, 9PM, you can count on her. Same for Rushia, some 3 hours prior.
I'll make a huge leap and say Amelia is more like Haachama now than like a regular streamer.

>> No.16847726

>>16847577
The inconsistency can hurt. Especially if they keep canceling streams. You stop being excited and start wondering if this stream will actually happen

>> No.16847734

>>16847577
hachama is an entirely different case she too longer breaks and had a 180 degree change in timeslot aftergoing back to japan. Ame is not in any of those situations yet. However my concerns are not just with amelia but all of the en girls and the boyss that streama t this times.

>> No.16847781

>>16846537
Okayu: Ikinari! Stealk Collab
Acrylic Stand: 1454 @ 15.91 = 23,133.14
Cutlery Set: 1248 @ 31.83 = 39,723.84
Total: $62,856.98

Kanata: 2nd Anni
Full Set: 1867 @ 74.01 = 138,176.67
Rubber Mat: 840 @ 23.87 = 20,050.80
Smartphone Case: 622 @ 23.87 = 14,847.14
1st Single: 874 @ 13.13 = 11,475.62
2nd Single: 811 @ 13.13 = 10,648.43
Total: $195,198.66

Towa: 2nd Anni
Full Set: 2320 @ 71.62 = 166,158.40
Rubber Strap: 1919 @ 7.96 = 15,275.24
Bag: 869 @ 35.81 = 31,118.89
Bracelet: 868 @ 19.90 = 17,273.20
Mask: 822 @ 7.96 = 6,543.12
Total: $236,368.85

>> No.16847883

>>16847408
That's not a given. I agree that despite what they tell their audience publicly, I'm sure that all of them are smart enough to know where the wind blows in Nijisanji. But even then, based on current trends. Hololive only has 5(maybe 6) slots open every year. Let's say that at minimum they have as many as 6000 applicants, which is the same number that applied for Gen 5 as per Subaru, vying for those 5(6) slots. None of the current NijiEN girls are talented enough to be considered as shoe-ins and they know it too. They're going to stay in Nijisanji because they at least already have their own gachis and it's just a matter of running maintenance. And I doubt any of them graduates unless Yagoo personally calls them up and tells them "Hororibuu Engrrish Genu Tree, OK?"

>> No.16848052

>>16847734
>>16847726
Case in point: I was waiting to catch Ame's Ring Fit stream but she pushed it 30 min forward and now I will likely find something else to do and catch the clips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_3ky2VQu6g

>> No.16848129
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>>16847408
mansanji

>> No.16848276

>>16846138
>>16847781
3 members of gen4
>692,577.84
Pekora
>655,828.72
That's impressive

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>>16848129
For whatever reason you need to look up Kiara's name in Japanese.

>> No.16848424

>>16848276
Luna and Kanata both have limited edition of their merch that sold out.
I'm not sure what the limit would be to be so I didn't include it (1000 for limited?).

>> No.16849015

>>16840897
>collab with Family Mart all the time
>collab with Lawsons all the time
And both are fine with this? Aren't they competition?

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>>16846366
Another accessories for the males I see

>> No.16849299

>>16843668
Stars were always part of the event, this isn't a new development.

>> No.16849407

>>16849015
All that matters is how much money they make.
Holo event = increased sales = more money

>> No.16849418

>>16849299
They were on fes1 and 2?!

>> No.16849512

>>16849015
meanwhile parent company
https://www.itochu.co.jp/ja/news/press/2020/200414.html
I bet theyre regretting it now

>> No.16849554

>>16849418
It's a full holo event, they announced that the stars would be part of the super expo in the first press release.

>> No.16849609

>>16849418
They are not in the fest, they are part of the expo, with merch probably.

>> No.16849653

>>16849418
fes 1 and 2 were just concerts, this is a convention.

>> No.16849720

>>16847277
That's called preferential treatment. Nijisanji doesn't do that because they use merit-based system. You now know the difference between #1 vtuber agency and all these small timers

>> No.16849820

>somehow Gura's stream, probably one of the lowest performing ones she's ever had, STILL reached 300k VOD views which is top tier viewership for most holos
I guess that "30% of her views come from NA only" thing was no joke huh

>> No.16849846

6k waiting room for ame
10min to recover it.

>> No.16850048

>>16841062
Kind of
She also was a character designer for some anime originals.
Which is good compared how most mangakas end up after they hit their peak.

>> No.16850120

>>16849820
Guess the "collab is a debuff for Gura" stuff ain't no joke either, considering her collab with Fauna that had a higher CCV peak and average during fucking CCVid (and had the exact same stream length) hasn't gotten to 300k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJCcx-LTHfA&t=1759s

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>ripple JP

>> No.16850539

>>16842693
What the fuck is this sorcery? I thought all Hololive EN artwork had to be them in default poses with no variance.

>> No.16850575

Is Ame's viewership so high because she's using buffson VR, or so low because she's using buffson VR during a coomer game stream?

>> No.16850956

>>16850575
hard to tell, this is a bad timeslot since the lockdowns stop.
I would go with the former but it is low. i think NA viewers are not here anymore or going back to being vod watchers

>> No.16851052

>>16846537
>>16847781
Profit is a lot better than I was expecting for merchs

I wonder how niji is doing, I remember them selling like hundreds Acrylic Stand of Chronoir that cost like 100 bucks each

>> No.16851142

Reimu 399
Reimu...

>> No.16851182

https://streamable.com/fbvln2
Why is the nijisanji fanbase so vicious?
Context is that Sasaki gets some kfc but the potato and chicken are cold, the chat then proceed to spam the cold chicken meme that was made by Pekora anti after christmas eve

>> No.16851187

>>16851052
Here's the thing for merch that I noticed.
You'll have X amount of people that will buy shit no matter the price, Ame setting her price low on the full set means she basically cuts her potential profits by quite a bit.

>> No.16851230

>8 hrs Ark
Damn, Matsuri is definitely trying to get her viewers back and its working. APEX matsuri can't get these numbers. Her SC numbers are also sneakily going up somehow. Now this is what I call a redemption arc

>> No.16851261

>>16851052
Those are estimated gross revenues anon. Merchs margins is probably about 70% tops. Split them for cover (assuming the girls doesn't fund them completely) and you'll get about 35% profit for them before taxes

>> No.16851352

>>16851261
yeah of course, but even then is what I meant

>> No.16851404

>>16851182
So it was Nijiniggers all along who were spreading that. Not surprising. Add another one to the list of awful things the Nijinigger talent and fans have done.

>> No.16851430

>>16846366
NA viewers probably still has ccvid imo, same applies to HoloEN that streams at these timeslots.

>> No.16851494

>>16851182
You know how /jp/ hates Gura for upstaging their branch?
Nijis are the same shit for all of hololive, except with Pekora who mogs their entire company.

>> No.16851627

>>16851230
she's had the field to herself for hours and it's morning now. literally any other holo would be getting better numbers

>> No.16851629

>>16846366
No offense to the girls, but Luca can do a superchat reading right now and beat everyone but Selen.
I've been looking at his SC reading numbers the past week and he hovers around 2-2.3k despite peaking at like 3k during the game portion.
All of the boys still beat the girls in burger times despite doing debuff content, they just get 1/3rd the numbers they get in JP times.

Also, Ame managed to beat Irys's RFA peak 4 months ago (9.1k) so this isn't doing too badly.
Altho with all the gimmicks she's pulling out, this should be 10k already imo.

>> No.16851752

>>16846366
I wonder if the girls even realize it, I'm sure Pomu does.
Right now they're in the "lull" period and Nijisanji is most likely getting ready to push another 3-4 waves, especially after the guys were successful.

>> No.16851915

>>16846366
ManjisanjiEN sure is getting cocky about their lightning in a bottle gen.
Wait till they shed their JP tourists and shit out 3-4 more gens of males. We'll see how popular they are then, it won't be so funny to compare their numbers with nijien females.

>> No.16852080

>>16849820
I've been thinking about Gura's numbers ever since the whole Ccvid thing broke... 30% of her vod views would be like 90k+ live viewers, which is closer to what she got prior to the 2020 cull.

>> No.16852190

>>16852080
There's no way she's always getting 90k viewers and no that's nowhere near close to her pre 2020 cull. It was more like 30-50k. Are you that falseflagger that always says EN is culled by 50000% and then insults JP, or just having a moment?

>> No.16852199

>>16852080
Super Hot is a buff game.
20K for Gura?

>> No.16852216

>>16852199
30k easy.

>> No.16852229

Oh, so that's what they are doing. Considering all that happened with the concert + Gartic Phone + Offcollab that's a pretty stacked stream with buffs


https://youtu.be/0lIk2Ok83d4

>> No.16852232

>>16852080
>which is closer to what she got prior to the 2020 cull.
Please don't numberfag if you're this bad at it.
Her highest median was 46k.

>> No.16852250

Prediction for Superhot Gura CCV?

>> No.16852258

>>16851182
I missed the meme and my Japanese is bad, can you underline these phrases in the screenshot and post the original meme?

>> No.16852276

>>16852199
is not vr
and has only 2.5k on the waiting room so probbaly 15k again given the en girls seems to still have some symptons of ccvid

>> No.16852281

>>16852199
Gura's numbers have been pretty bad by her own standards for a while.
Not sure if she has CCVID or not, but I'll believe 20k when I see it.

>> No.16852291

>>16837765
What if they are currently in JP?

>> No.16852327

>>16852199
Only if it was still VR like it says on the schedule, which it isn't since she blew her back literally volunteering to shovel animal shit, according to yesterday's stream.
If she's still a PNGtuber things are looking grim.

>> No.16852384

>>16852229

It's on Mito's channel too so yeah. I would say it will peak around 50k or 60k but it can go higher

>> No.16852388

I can't wait for Subaru and Gura to start. These low numbers are boring. I hope Subaru beats Gura so that the shitposting will start again.

>> No.16852425

>>16852229
>Offcollab
I just hope that they won't be infected by covid

>> No.16852465

>>16852229
>off-collab
Didn't they JUST have all the guys get infected?

>> No.16852480

>>16852229
anon its an online collab can't you read the title

>> No.16852490

>>16852465
well they tested all the girls too and they were negative

>> No.16852509

>>16852229
>offcollab
is like they are ASKING for something bad to happen.

>> No.16852517

>>16851752
The only way for the girls to survive is to somehow get that HoloEN collab off the ground. Toko managed to survive manjisanji in JP by becoming associated with Hololive.

>> No.16852526

>>16852465
>>16852425
>>16852509
>オンコラボ

>> No.16852533

>>16852425
>>16852465
>>16852509
>オンコラボ
That faggot can't read

>> No.16852575

>>16852276
Reminder she had literally 8k, and then 11k after a delay waiting for Apotheon, but that reached only 12k.
EN has some CCVid fuckery going on for sure

>> No.16852579

>>16852080
She is most likely averages 35-40k whenever she streams. Youtube needs to fix their shit already.

>> No.16852616

>>16852517
>The only way for the girls to survive is to somehow get that HoloEN collab off the ground.
>Looks at Pikamee
lol.

>Toko managed to survive manjisanji in JP by becoming associated with Hololive.
>Looks at Lize, Ange, and Mito
Kek.

>> No.16852651

So I think it's a safe assumption that Rushia will get gold but the day in general is ridiculously stacked with also Chloe's return, Nijigirls collab, Aqua Apex and the big Pekora collab. The other medal races should be very interesting at least

>> No.16852662

>>16852229
>pretty stacked stream
There are no men there so I'm thinking 7-9k

>> No.16852725

>>16852517
Inui was already doing fine without holoboost, why do you think she already had a 3D model before Suisei ever did. Sanbaka is a strong trio among the company.

>> No.16852738

>>16852190
Didn't she get higher on some karaokes? I just said it's closer. Not sure why you're defensive of JPs when I didn't mention them.

>> No.16852745

>>16851752
Oh, they do. Pomu already hinted that she is slightly worried with how fast new waves were getting introduced. And this was prior to Wave 3. It's just that even if they are worried, they're kind of stuck in a proverbial dead end
>Not good or confident enough to jump ship to Holo
>Same, although a bit less so, for VShoujo. Plus VS does have a rather amateurish management so that's already a downgrade from Nijisanji
>No other agency at the level of Nijisanji
>The next corpos who are a tier below (VSPO, 774, etc) don't even have EN branches
>The tier below (Prism Pro, Tsuderia, etc) is several tiers lower than the previous companies and is only slightly (if at all) better than being an indie
Being a girl in NijiEN is like being on a treadmill team. Good enough to make the playoffs but you're just hoping to not get swept in the first round

>> No.16852759

>>16852517
Yeah, this is true. I didn't realize it but the only Niji females even doing somewhat well are the ones who are heavily associated with Hololive like Toko and Hoshikawa.

>> No.16852762

>>16852388
>I hope Subaru beats Gura
rooting for your osh-
>so the shitposting will start again
You are the literal cancer of these threads

>> No.16852781

>>16852662
>forgetting mito got gold literally just the other day

>> No.16852816

>>16852258
just look for variations of 冷めたチキン

>> No.16852840

>>16852738
No, she got higher on one (1) Karaoke, that was
1)During her peak popularity phase
2)The second one after the hype of the first one that got 60k
3)the waiting room was online for 24+ hours, giving all tourists plenty of time to find out about it

>> No.16852856

>>16852651

Nijigirls collab will most likely get silver at least. Chloe return is only 30 minutes so not enough time to get viewers and Aqua Apex will overlap with Pekora, Subaru and Miko. peaks for those will be on the low side

Bronze rance will be interesting to see tho

>> No.16852864

>>16852781
Anon, she was collabing with 3 Nijimales

>> No.16852883

>>16852759
>only Niji females even doing somewhat well
>Toko and Hoshikawa
Not even the top 2 female Nijis.
Hoshikawa is buffed by doing an Apex challenge, once it's over, she'll fall back to <5k.

>> No.16852930

>>16852864
Retard, that was Rena, not Mito, and she was doing a 3D collab.
Mito has done nothing but play Judge eyes for days.

>> No.16852989

>>16852864
Were you in a coma for a week?

>> No.16853003

>>16852930
Cope

>> No.16853044

>>16853003
>Get called out for being retarded
>C-cope
Pathetic.

>> No.16853061

i belive school or college start this week also so it could explain also the low views this week beside CCVfor the EN girls.

>> No.16853072

btw you cannot mention mito without hornyposting her

>> No.16853074

>>16852864
Damn I didn't know Ryu Ga Gotoku studio is a part of anycolor

>> No.16853121

>>16845340
>>16846138
JESAS

>> No.16853141

>>16853072
That's what the horny thread is for.

>> No.16853143

>>16852781
she doesnt get those numbers everytime, she was at the climax of the game

>> No.16853168

>>16852840
Wasn't she still inclining before the first cull, though? We don't know what her peak popularity was, she might be bigger these days.

>> No.16853275

>>16853143
numbers are numbers, she was getting a consistent 10k for judgement anyway except for that one day during CCVID season when she decided to play all day long while everyone in the company was on a poker chase tournament

>> No.16853315

>>16852745
They should have known that this is how Nijisanji operates especially if you are a girl. You are going to get little support, if any at all, and eventually you will be reduced to a mere decoration for males when they start going full Manjisanji.

>> No.16853340

>>16853168
One look at VOD views would tell you that Gura is nowhere near her Nov 2020 peak anymore.
She was getting 1 mil VODs quickly and consistently, whereas nowadays, 500-600k is already a great VOD.
She's still big and one of the biggest Holos, but Gura is not bigger these days than the end of 2020.

>> No.16853386

>>16853275
yes numbers and numbers, and Mito cant get 20k without a buff simple as

>> No.16853413

>>16853275
>consistent 10k
Wow, Mito used to be a 30k streamer back in 2018. She reclined that much? Sasuga Manjisanji!!

>> No.16853434

>>16852745
I think a motivated/ambitious Gen 3 would greatly hurt them.

>> No.16853774
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Today's superchats

>> No.16853828
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16853828

As a HoloCHAD I remember saying before the NijiEN males debuted that no matter what happens with them HoloCHADs win.

>If they fail
GREAT! We get to laugh at Nijiniggers for failing as usual

>If they succeed
ALSO GREAT! It proves everything we have been saying all along about Manjisanji. Its not like the people watching them would be watching Hololive anyway so its no skin off my back.

Turns out they are doing pretty well and Manjisanji has been activated. The NijiEN girls are getting lower viewers and all those Pomufags and Selencucks who spammed this board for months are on meltdown mode right now. They are not sure how to deal with this new invasion on their precious NijiEN.

I'm just sitting back enjoying the chaos.

>> No.16853912

>>16853774
HolyShit Rushia

>> No.16854009

8k waiting room.
Similar to apothan stream and technically nogame stream.

>> No.16854043

>>16853774
Ruchan the fagslayer

>> No.16854048

>>16853340
That's not quite right. Several of her early videos blew up in VOD views due to the algorithm and less clippers, but it appears she has been gaining popularity in general and perhaps peaked during summer of 2021.

>> No.16854065

>>16853828
I hope they do well so when HolostarsEN flops they'll see that holostars should not exist

>> No.16854072

>>16852762
Nah, I just like the shitflinging when Gura loses. I don't participate in them but I laugh when chumkeks get their feelings hurt. Also like Kuzuha gold slips but he's barely relevant now

>> No.16854124

>>16853774
>>16853912
Ru-chan-senpai with the hard carry! It's almost all Niji on the way down.

>> No.16854151

>>16854009
Apotheon room was 11k and that game was total ass, I don't get it

>> No.16854165

nips bodies are pretty weak, what if one of the nijis that got covid ends up succumbing?

>> No.16854191

>>16854072
Gura is sick retard

>> No.16854194

>>16852229
mansanji so 30k-40k max

>> No.16854197

>>16853774
She's going to make $30k again tonight if Pekora's SC numbers were a preview.

>> No.16854199

Gura late again
10 waiting

>> No.16854220

>>16853434
If Yagoo pulls another rabbit outta his hat like with Gen 3 and HoloX, AND NijiEN starts veering towards male livers, forget hurt that pretty much kills NijiEN girls PERIOD. And I'm not even sure if they even need both of those to happen. They do not have a Mito or a Lize. No Lulu or Ange either. Hell, a non-apex buffed HSKW is better than any of them. Their main claim to fame was that they were an "alternative" to HoloEN back when HoloEN only had 5 members and VShoujo hadn't suckled on the tit of twitch cliques yet. It's time to face facts, the fate of this girls is to become pairing bait for Luxiem at best or turning into unmemorable side characters at worst.

>> No.16854242

>>16854191
>Gura is sick
Why do you think he'll give a shit lol?
He's already a piece of shit human being.

>> No.16854282

>>16854072
What stream was 39 about? I only remember it was a godly slip.

>> No.16854310

Gura 10k waiting with 2.5k likes. Looks good so far.

>> No.16854311

>>16854220
Pairing Luxiem with Niji girls would hurt the guys. Mysta already said not to pair him with girls.

>> No.16854328

>>16854310
11k

>> No.16854338

>>16854220
Anon, Yagoo can spam 20 gen 3s and it wont be relevant for NijiEN girls, they're not competing with Pekora.
If Yagoo somehow pulls another Myth though, they're beyond fucked.

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>>16854009
10k now
Let's see how long it takes to recover it

>> No.16854399

>>16854359
Png again??

>> No.16854433

>>16854399
The japanese hotel she is staying at has bad wifi, pleasu andastandu

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>>16853072
I still like the idea that whenever shitposters are rampant, you horny post. the /hlg/ lulu posting meta.

>> No.16854514

>>16854399
No one knows yet

>> No.16854525

I don't understand these waiting room numbers. So Gura has 11k waiting for her, streamers with 2k double to quadruple the waiting rooms, but she'll probably get like 15k (if she's lucky, yesterday she got 11k waiting turned into 12k watching peak). What's going on here?

>> No.16854526

>>16854311
>Pairing Luxiem with Niji girls would hurt the guys. Mysta already said not to pair him with girls.
Yes, but that's probably the only way that most of the bottom tier Nijigirls like Petra and Finana will even be relevant in a few months.

>> No.16854580

>>16854433
So people are assuming the she is japan since last week?

>> No.16854587

>>16854525
CCVID

>> No.16854652

>>16854525
that is the mistery of the current girls
either they still have a lesser from of ccvid
or notifiactions of their streams arent coming as fast as before.

>> No.16854657

>>16854525
They're fucked because YT actively hates them.
I still think its because they're listed as channels in japan, despite their IP's being from elsewhere in the world.

>> No.16854716

Gura Cancelled again?

>> No.16854717

>>16854525
To be fair, her actual waiting room number was around 8k.
This 12k waiting room you're seeing right now is because she's been late for 10 minutes.
If anything, going from 8k to 12k is quite slow for 10 minutes for someone of Gura's tiering.

>> No.16854723

FAKE - 964k
My Song - 854k
A New Start - 728k
Tenshi no agape - 520k

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>> No.16854724
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>>16854525
It's the CCV bug
You think this graph is normal?
YouTube probably remove all membershrimps from CCV for "spamming"

>> No.16854750

>>16854657
Then why aren't Irys and Mori fucked? Why wasn't Kiara fucked when she was in Japan? They all saw similar hits in numbers in 2020. It's not on their channel end, its on the viewer end. For some reason westerners are flagged with CCVid nonsense and Asians aren't.

>> No.16854763

>>16854726

holy overlap

>> No.16854767

>>16854525
It's so fucking obvious that Gura has 40-50k live viewers, but youtube will display 1 watching again.

>> No.16854798

>>16854750
Let the chumkeks cope. Selen has her usual numbers

>> No.16854825

>>16854716
Its been over a year,they couldnt solve the fucking
internet problem.

>> No.16854835

>>16854338
No, I'm talking about if they get an equivalent of Gen 3 for EN. Imagine a HoloEn with the comedic timing of Pekora who actually likes streaming. Or a zatsu queen like Marine, or an EN version of Rushia who can actually empty western male wallets? Just having two of those in one gen would be like having a 2nd Myth, only less depressed.

>> No.16854849

>>16854724
The 1 viewer bug isn't a big deal.
Lots of streamers (HoloJP, NijiJP, NijiEN) have it and they bounce back almost immediately.

>> No.16854851

>>16854726
Miko hates Pekora

>> No.16854872

>>16854717
i do agree with that tough makes me wonder if its becasue notifiaction of their streams are not getting pushed fast enough.
Gura also hasnt gotten her second 10k of the week yet also.
So i do think the EN girls including nijis are not gettingrecomended in this slot or to the burger users.

>> No.16854884

>>16854750 (me)
>Then why aren't Irys and Mori fucked? Why wasn't Kiara fucked when she was in Japan?
Are. Why are they fucked.

>> No.16854922

>>16854835
Westerners are africa tier when it comes to "emptying wallets" that's why the only market that matters is JP

>> No.16854950

>15 minutes late
>Waiting room keeps increasing
Lets see if she hits 13k waiting room

>> No.16855007

>>16854798
>Selen has her usual numbers
she actually doesnt
last beedreel stream selene got 3k at 40min
it tooke her 4 hrs to get that number on todays stream

>> No.16855019

>>16854716
kek nice branch you got there

>> No.16855029

>>16854835
Myth is the equivalent of Gen 3 for EN, stop your nonsense. They are literally stronger than them.

>> No.16855061

gura 13k get

>> No.16855075

>>16854950
it did.

>> No.16855076
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>>16854849
Not that
The gradual recline
Normal graph is like Lamy here
Gradually increasing till peak, fluctuating, and only drop when SC or ending

>> No.16855106

>>16855061
it's going to take 30 mins to recover this waiting room kek

>> No.16855157
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>>16855029
In deadsubs and...

>> No.16855189

Her waiting room increase cratered pretty hard. At this rate its increasing by like, normal stream increases

>> No.16855245

>>16854717
Most people who follow Gura though know that her listed time is never accurate. She always starts her stream 4-5 minutes ahead of the listed time so that’s typically what her “real” waiting room number is, which is usually 10k+.

Regardless, if you saw a 10k+ waiting room on any jp member you know that stream is hitting 20k+. Look at Fauna’s mario party collab too, which had a like 13-14k waiting room and peaks at what, 17k? Makes zero sense.

>> No.16855246

>>16855076
If you watched the stream, then you would know that Gura's game crashed after she bled viewers to 10k.
She then switched to zatsu/SC reading and bled more viewers.
The reason why you don't see a huge drop like Lamy is because the number of people that will listen to Gura read SCs is 8-10k, whereas it's 2k for Lamy.

>> No.16855265

>>16853774
January superchats so far
>Rushia - $112,817
>Chloe - $74,979
>Pekora - $73,667
>Koyori - $65,079
>Matsuri - $57,320
>Iroha - $57,093
>Ike - $55,790
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Towa - $48,092
>Vox - $47,962
>Nene - $45,933
>kson - $45,244
>Miko - $41,754
>Subaru - $40,057
>Lamy - $40,050
>Mori - $39,743
>Watame - $38,415
>Mysta - $37,985
>Kiara - $35,467
>Lui - $34,257
>Chihiro - $33,851
>Luna - $32,183
>Laplus - $31,718
>Noel - $30,553

>> No.16855285

>>16855157
Keep coping Nousagi, those "dead" subs are why Pekora will always be stuck as nr 4 vtuber.

>> No.16855333

>>16855029
stop being delusional

>> No.16855476

>>16855246
Yeah she and Pekora are the only two who can keep a sizable fanbase watching sc readings, but that says a lot about the state of the stream that she was getting 10k people watching her play a game and 9k watching her sc? Like that’s just absurd sounding that there is such little drop off when everyone else loses their entire viewership when it happens.

I mean even Rushia, the ultimate GFE, drops to 2-4k for readings

>> No.16855497

>>16855333
>gen 3 tards triggered
Remind me, which generation is over 1 million? In popularity, literally every single Myth mogs their Gen 3 equivalent.
Keep coping about miracle generation that actually only has 2 heavy hitters and a wallet succubus.

>> No.16855504

>>16855265
>Matsuri sneakily at the top superchats

>> No.16855585

>>16854726
HOLY SHIT aqua is back playing APEX?! can't miss that stream now

>> No.16855616

14k...

>> No.16855644

>>16855497
why are enkeks seething so hard today? did something happened?

>> No.16855663

>>16855245
>Regardless, if you saw a 10k+ waiting room on any jp member you know that stream is hitting 20k+.
This is nothing new tho, we know JPs tune into streams in the last minute/when it starts rather than wait before.
We weren't seeing this "peak will be 2x waiting room" phenomenon with ENs even before CCVID.

>Look at Fauna’s mario party collab too, which had a like 13-14k waiting room and peaks at what, 17k?
Fauna delayed her stream by 16 mins.
People who would tune in already did and were waiting.
Seeing as it's still under 200k VOD views, it didn't break 20k CCV.

>> No.16855676

First 20k of the day goes to subaru.

>> No.16855697

>>16855644
Just putting you in your place, final ninja

>> No.16855707
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>>16842693
>The wall of HoloEN and ID blocking the JP girls from the Homos

>> No.16855741

>>16855697
keep seething I guess

>> No.16855742

>>16855504
Bear in mind she'd just miss out on the list if you take away the classic Matsuri special $27.4k Apex gacha stream she did just after New Years

>> No.16855771

>>16855663
>Seeing as it's still under 200k VOD views, it didn't break 20k CCV.
So why is Gura's Apotheon stream, that struggled to stay afloat over 10k, at 300k VODs views now?

>> No.16855829

>>16855476
>Like that’s just absurd sounding that there is such little drop off when everyone else loses their entire viewership when it happens.
Look at Kronii's Frostpunk stream from yesterday.
She had more people listen to her read SCs (3.6k) than when she was playing the game (3k).
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/aYCbRzMop1k

The peak was the funnel from the MK party collab, but she finished the game almost right after the funnel started.

It just means the game is so boring that only the most dedicated fans stayed to watch.
Pekora has had this happen too when she gets low peaks (~14-15k).

>> No.16855892

>>16855771
Youtube legit put some kind of bandaid on Gura's channel because the algorithm went crazy suggesting her to everyone.

>> No.16855912

what is the biggest waiting room we have ever seen outside an event or collab?
i reacall the time coco was late her waiting room was like 7k or 8k even tough fbk was having a stream with 20k people.

>> No.16855916

I'm going to fucking laugh if Gura gets her regular "20k after an hour" like she used to on her waiting room.

>> No.16855918

>>16855771
Because Gura has been getting culled by youtube for over a year now. This is common knowledge. Try and keep up.

>> No.16855919

The absolute state of this time slot if Gura don't stream there is nobody, is so frustrating.

>> No.16855922

>>16855771
>29% NA

>> No.16855976

>>16855919
mumei is gonna do a guerrilla karaoke in lie 30 min.

>> No.16856028

>>16855771
Gura's VOD views have always been a mystery.
It could be CCVID, it could be her 3.75 mil subs doing the work, it could be the algorithm pushing it like they push all of Gura's VODs.
We know only 29% of her VOD views are from NA, so it could be JP and other countries doing their VOD reps while it's processing.

>> No.16856071

>>16855919
I respect Luxiem even more now.

>> No.16856074

>>16855912
>outside an event
So no Coco's graduation? Then it must be Coco's final free chat (~118K)

>> No.16856110

>>16855676
Is it just me or is Shuba's floor (assuming no debuffs) has risen to 20k nowadays?

>> No.16856176

>>16855916
Well it actually started so no chance.
Let's see if she gets her 15k back at least

>> No.16856194

>>16856110
it's been that way for at least 6 months.

>> No.16856207

Started
15k waiting room
dropped to 5k

>> No.16856211

14.5k

>> No.16856212
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damn the overlapping

>> No.16856254

Subaru is going to play apex

>> No.16856272

>>16856028
JP fans are holding an entire fan convention dedicated to just Gura. She is very popular over there. Its safe to say that JP fans are doing a lot of the heavy lifting with those VODS.

GAWR GURA SHARK ONLY EVENT
https://same.ketto.com/

>> No.16856294

>>16856110
Yes. She's filling the hole Aqua left quite nicely. I remember getting insulted because I said Subaru will replace Aqua as the alpha of Gen 2.

>> No.16856384

>>16856110
>>16856194
No it hasn't you delusional Reddit Duck fags. Subaru was carried by the meme game and the only reason she has 20k now is because Gura fans are using her stream as a waiting room while Gura figures out whatever the fuck is going on with her stream.

>> No.16856422

>>16856110
Thank Yakuza games for that. They've always been a huge buff for anyone playing that series(Judge eyes included). I'm not belittling her in any way but while she did incline during the past 6months, you are actually taking Into account all of these Yakuza streams. Her median should be 2 or 3k below once she'll end with that series(after Yakuza Kiwami 2 the numbers might drop quite a bit anyway).

>> No.16856608

>>16854310
Updates, 11k with 5.4k likes in 3 minutes. Looks good so far.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyakqutKBpM

Orca turned off Superchat.
NOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.16856729

>>16856254
Please don't lie. She said she played with Mr. Koro off stream and then uninstalled it.

>> No.16856793

>>16855285
>nr 4 vtuber.
well i'd say your oshi is nr trash vtuber because she is boring as fuck, her fanbase is undertale tier and she barely streams. literally a tourist pedobait tool for Hololive succcess

>> No.16856798

>>16856729
She already played with Choco and Luna. Why would she uninstall it?

>> No.16856800

12k at 7 mins, still beneath waiting room and potential people who came into stream from notifications

Shit sucks to see

>> No.16856828
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>>16856608
>Looks good so far.
Not really. It's plateauing already when there's still 2k away.

>> No.16856856

>>16856798
Because kids shout at her in voice chat because she is bad and it annoys her so she uninstalls it. She has done this a few times now over the years.

>> No.16856873

>>16856272
Anon we have the stats, 12% of her views are are from Japan, right? They're the second biggest "1 country" group, but they don't outnumber NA or even are all that many.
Bear in mind views =/= CCV, so for all we know the 30% NA is responsible for the bulk of her CCV, but everyone else just ads the VOD views.

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10 mins only 12k lmao pretty weak

>> No.16856915
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16856915

Why does YouTube continue to fuck the EN numbers? 7 minutes.

>> No.16856945

>>16856828
Looks like it not reaching waiting room numbers. 13k now.

>> No.16856949

>>16856828
>The Nike
Classic symptom of CCVID. Anybody who denies that she is infected are disingenuous pieces of garbage.

>> No.16856984

>>16856828
yeah it is really painful to see.

>> No.16857000

>>16856949
Case in point
>>16856877

>> No.16857010

>>16856949
She should stream more. Those infected got cured by streaming a lot.

>> No.16857052
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16857052

That’s me, the last chumbu-

Wait…

>> No.16857078

>>16856949
Yeah, this is classic CCVID era Gura. HoloEN was never cured.

>> No.16857088

>>16857052
OH NONONONONO
HoloBros

>> No.16857118
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16857118

>>16856915
Mogged by reddit duck

>> No.16857144

>13 minutes in and no waiting room recovery
Man fuck this stupid platform and their joke culls and CCV fuckery. Why can't they just literally be like twitch? Even if we removed all these culls we'd still be stuck with shit like "you alt tab you're not watching fuck you", despite streams being audio only in many circumstances.

>> No.16857150

how is super hot a buff game?

>> No.16857196

>>16856949
like i said weeks ago, don't be tricked by gura's numbers. she has a large gura-only watchers. it would take quite a while for them to get culled. we're finally reaching the bottom.

>> No.16857201

>>16857150
It's kind of interesting, but it's not that big of a buff game. It's just...not a fucking debuff like some of the shit Gura plays.

>> No.16857218

>>16856608
>>16856828
Updates, 14k with 7.5k likes in 13 minutes. It may take a while to reach the waitng room. At least the view and like ratio are normal ratio unlike yesterday mumei and kronii.

>> No.16857224

>>16857052
BOT DETECTED
>>16857150
It can be finished in 1 sitting, it's interesting enough to hold interest and get reactions out of streamers.

>> No.16857232

>>16857150
I wouldn't say it's a debuff game.

Also Gura beat her waiting room, but started dipping immediately, losing 700 viewers.

>> No.16857238

>>16857150
i think is normal no buff or debuff

>> No.16857254

>>16857144
twitcth doesnt aim for accuracy, yt does.
That is why twitch update everything in chunks

However becasue of the size of youtube im not sure if that is a valid way for them. But yes it is pretty stuid.

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16857270

>>16857150

>> No.16857294

>>16856915
Gura started her stream late so she has a bigger waiting room than she would normally, I'm not denying she's getting fucked but it looks worse than it really is because of that

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>>16857010
Not really. Though Roboco has not streamed for 4 days prior to this stream so maybe.

>> No.16857315

>>16857270
Literally her 2nd ever game stream, genius.

>> No.16857347

>>16857218
Updates, Views goes down. Waiting room numbers failed to reach.

>> No.16857366

>>16857270
debut buff and lore buff was in effect for that one

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16857444

>>16857118
>Mogged by Reddit Duck
Yeah no

>> No.16857475

>>16857347
Classic susan boted magic. You a bot now begone!

>> No.16857499
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16857499

https://twitter.com/saki_akuma/status/1484346457553776641
It's pretty much confirmed from analytics that the bug still persists. Still I don't know why this time ENs side got hit harder by the bug.

>> No.16857504

>>16857270
This is one of Kronii (who was and even after 20 self sabotages still is the most popular Council member)'s first streams, anon.
That's like saying 12 minutes is a buff game cause she had 30k on it.

>> No.16857508

>likes
Can we be done of this timeloop already

>> No.16857527

>>16857444
Don't start that timeloop. You KNOW on average that the EN audience likes more than JP. The views are definitely fucked, but don't drag the likes nonsense into this.

>> No.16857615

>>16857527
Look at the name of the file

>> No.16857625

>>16857499
>>16857444
ah shiet is gonna happen again. I would be more comfrotable if the EN girls shared that info.

>> No.16857645

>>16857444
>3.75M subs
>8k likes
vs
>1.25M subs
>6.6k likes
Chumkeks are seething

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16857654

What happened? Subaru lost 3000 viewers at once

>> No.16857657

>>16857499
>330 viewers shown
>430 in the analytics
Defend this cull deniers
DEFEND. THIS.

>> No.16857665

>>16857347
She did reach the waiting room numbers.

>> No.16857722

>>16857615
I know. It still needs to be said because we get idiot tourists that see what these shiposters put out and take it for truth.

>> No.16857729

>>16857615
oh
Moving on then

>> No.16857761

>>16857052
Anon, please put your hands against the wall.

>> No.16857769

>>16857444
>likes
Chumkek cope

>> No.16857776

>>16857654
got infected with gura's new strain of CCVID from 4 days ago

>> No.16857777

>>16857615
I thought Reddit Duck schizo was a deranged 35p? Why does he suddenly care about Gura?

>> No.16857779

>1 watching now

>> No.16857786

>>16857527
They all switched to Gura then the EN filter converted them into non spam viewers, and so Gura lost 300 viewers too.

>> No.16857826

>>16857654
not watching but from the graph looks like an internet problem, really similar in behavior to la+ streams

>> No.16857841

>>16857777
He hits with everything he's got.

>> No.16857844

>>16857777
it's all the same schizo/retard. will use anything but generally rotate between 4 different "target"

>> No.16857860

>>16857777
>35p
He's probably a chumkek. 35ps don't really care about numbers.

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16857904

Flash crash!!

>> No.16857926

>>16857860
Nah, he very clearly emerged once somebody suggested that Subaru surpassed Miko among the top tier Holos and he has been at it ever since.

>> No.16857958

I wonder, why be a schizo when you could just not be a schizo? Is it fun?

>> No.16857965

>>16857926
I have literally never seen two of our resident schizos posting at the same time

>> No.16857977

>>16857904
It's to keep things interesting

>> No.16858004

>>16857499
anons said that last time it's more likely that YT just mass unflagged accounts and since the JP were hit way harder at the time, a lot of JP accounts were immunized.
As the CCVID progresses several of them are immune to it now, but not all.
CCVID is affecting everyone still, but progressing way faster on the EN and ID side.

>> No.16858074

>>16857965
>gen5 schizo
>Pakora schizo
>Reddit duck schizo
>last samurai schizo
He's probably all of them

>> No.16858078

>>16857965
Our resident anit-EN /jp/ schizo and gen5 schizo fighting each other is always funny, but it doesn't always happen.

>> No.16858119

>>16858074
The term your looking for is nijishitter, anon.

>> No.16858181

>>16858119
Makes sense

>> No.16858187

>>16858074
I thought the last samurai schizo was a SEAnigger chumbud

>> No.16858198

Are niji en even stream at this hour or they just give up now?

>> No.16858255

>>16858198
They don't want to humilliate Gura today

>> No.16858282

>>16858198
Selen/Finana/Elira stream now. Rosemi stream in one hour. Nina stream in one hour.

>> No.16858385

>>16858255
Makes sense, better stay at SEA primetime hour.

>> No.16858386

>>16858198
The boys only stream in this time when they have a collab with the girls, maybe Luca and Shu streams in this time slot alone.

>> No.16858394

>Shuba ended
Will Gura incline?

>> No.16858428

>>16853774
Oh so some faggot jumped the gun and posted the daily SCs yesterday when Playboard wasn't done processing Rushia's

>> No.16858519

Mumei 2.4k waiting 1k likes.

>> No.16858522

>>16858394
Who the fuck can say. She seems to have gained like, 500 viewers, could be natural incline could be JOPs jumping over. She's about to lose 1k minimum when Mumei starts her 500k celebration though.

>> No.16858529

>>16858394
Was she doing an EOP friendly stream?

>> No.16858560

>>16852745
>does have a rather amateurish management so that's already a downgrade from Nijisanji
They do but you gotta give Vshoujo mane a credit. They manage to shill nyanners into Kizuna's concert and even have their talents participated on VILLS

>> No.16858603

>>16858198
NA primetime = girls stream
JP primetime - EU evening = da boys

>> No.16858615

>>16857347
Updates, gura finally reach 15k with 11k likes.

>> No.16858639

>>16858560
>talents
Don't ever use that word when referring to Vshitshow ever again. I have more talent in my big toe than those whores.

>> No.16858667

>>16858615
Because subaru end the stream

>> No.16858777

>>16858428
Well, of course. Nothing new there.
>>16858615
Combination of Subaru ending and Gura finally being less dumb and getting on to the next stage.
She's pretty out of it, but she pulled the ol' "Oh, the alarm went off early, I can sleep a bit more" and has basically spent half the streaming waking up properly.

>> No.16858830

>>16858519
Updates, mumei 3.1k likes 1.1k likes.

>> No.16858889

>>16858830
Waiting 3.1k* sorry.

>> No.16858905

numberbros, i have a confession to make
i think i finally found an oshi, but her numbers are garbage
what the fuck do i do

>> No.16858946

>>16858905
Find yourself an oshi with good numbers.

>> No.16858966

How come none of the EN girls, especially Kiara or Mori, talk about the CCVID issue again after the supposed "rollback", if it is still present for the EN girls?

>> No.16858976

>>16858905
Numberfag for her sake

>> No.16858975

>>16858905
Stop watching NijiEN

>> No.16858977
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16858977

Someone send this youtube(in twitter) pls.

>> No.16859002

>>16858905
Pick one and only one
>Enjoy regardless of numbers
>Abandon before her low numbers make you regret and find someone else

>> No.16859016

>>16858966
They are stupid

>> No.16859020

>>16852745
The guys will get it too, Niji JP fanbase changes favorites rapidly. Remember when their last Jp gen was the hot shit getting tons of money and views? Where are they now? Next EN male wave and some or all of the guys are getting tossed out with the rubbish in exchange for some new toys.

>> No.16859037

>>16858905
Stick with her, who knows. She might do good numbers eventually.

>> No.16859039

>>16858603
All the boys are from eu right? Sorry i don't watch males.

>> No.16859045

>>16858966
Because Hololive always plays nice with youtube and always seem to go out of their way to remain on good terms with them and not piss them off.

>> No.16859053

>>16858966
How new are you to know no one in EN cares about numbers?

>> No.16859098

>>16858977
How about no? Fix one issue at a time.
The only thing the 1 view bug does is making graphs looks stupid.

>> No.16859122

>>16858905
Don't visit this thread. Easy. Just enjoy your oshi's content.

>> No.16859124

>>16857499
I wish Gura would show us her analytics and open the Pandora box but that's never going to happen because is Gura...

>> No.16859138

>>16858966
Because only Selen and a few indies ever talked about it from the "look at these analytics" perspective. Mori and Kiara talked about it from the "holy shit what the fuck is up with these polls vs ccv", indicating the dumb bitches aren't even checking their analytics for CCV so not spotting any disparity.

>> No.16859165

>>16859045
Ultimately it's more important to get demonetization, DMCA, and even channel deletion issues rapidly resolved in your favor than it is to badger them about what is ultimately a cosmetic issue.

>> No.16859183

>>16858966
HoloEN is full of fucking retards that can't numberfag properly. What's new?

>> No.16859212

>>16859138
Or they're not allowed to talk about their analytics, which they aren't.

>> No.16859213

>>16859138
>Mori and Kiara
And their response to the polls vs CCV fuckery was like "Oh well, who cares".

>> No.16859215

>>16858560
they are definitely not talents, they are streamers. talents is the termed used for Hololive idols. Nijis are livers, Vshojo are just streamers.

>> No.16859249
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>>16855265
No...

>> No.16859257

>>16859039
Vox and Mysta are.
>>16859165
The issue with CCV issues when it's NOT across the board is that being seen as declining -> Leading to ACTUAL decline is a thing that can happen, if it's not fixed ASAP. Some people really believe the issues with CCV have been properly 'fixed'.

>> No.16859278

>>16858830
Updates, mumei 3.2k 2.9k likes in 7 minutes.

>> No.16859313

>>16859215
Talents are anyone who appears on camera for an entertainment company, it applies to all streamers including vtubers. Livers is just a nonsense Engrish term Nijisanji made up.

>> No.16859353

>>16859278
7 mins is about normal for EN now, as pathetic as that sounds.
It took Selen 10 minutes to recover a 1k waiting room today.

Meanwhile, it took Ike less than 40s to recover his 5k waiting room last night.

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>cum sharts get uppity
>minutes later, their shart gets absolutely destroyed
kek

>> No.16859405

>>16859138
>Holo's talking about analytics
Yeah, that went so well the last time right? Not a big surprise they aren't allowed to talk about them on stream.

>> No.16859413

>>16859165
>ultimately a cosmetic issue
It isn't a cosmetic issue. Whereas yes, CCV doesn't actually matter for ad money or even how Cover sells their sponsorships, it matters for tourists.
Someone getting BEEG numbers gets BEEGER numbers (so more total views) because of it.
This is the perception of popularity effect. Do you know why for example, and Gura is already the beneficiary of this via her SUB/VOD numbers, and you can tell she was doing better in sub/VOD growth back when her CCV was properly displayed.

TLDR: cosmetic? Yeah. But clothes make the man.

>> No.16859442

>>16859353
Yea.
The NijiEN gals are getting fucked by this nonsense while the dudes are (thus far) unaffected in the SEA+JP timeslot.
Really makes trying to do a proper comparison kind of moot and just rife for shitposting without context.

>> No.16859464

>>16859257
>being seen as declining
Exactly

Just look at all the faggots on this board who actually think Luxiem is legit competing with HoloEN while those of us with half a brain know that isn't the case.

>> No.16859475

>>16859442
NijiEN girls' numbers are normal though.

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>>16858639

>> No.16859525

>>16859376
You love to see it.

>> No.16859537

>>16859257
It also leads to the competition inclining if they're not being culled.
Let me give you an example
>holy shit Mysta is pulling 10k? Those are Gura numbers!
But they're not, and Mysta is a blip in the big name vtuber radar. However, because youtube's fuckery is putting one of his metrics near someone as huge as Myth, the perception of "god damn this guy must be amazing let me check him out" is created.

>> No.16859550

Any other examples outside of vtubers still getting affected? Someone like Ludwig that people said was getting from 25 to 15k during the period?

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>>16859519

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>>16859586

>> No.16859637

>>16859537
>Mysta is a blip in the big name vtuber radar. However, because youtube's fuckery is putting one of his metrics near someone as huge as Myth, the perception of "god damn this guy must be amazing let me check him out" is created.
I mean, you can have a look at his VOD views and he gets 100-200k pretty often now, which is Ina/Ame tier at least.
He's not as small as you're trying to make him sound.

>> No.16859648

>>16859550
Nothing wrong on vtubers end. It's their viewers that were getting fucked.

>> No.16859673

FOR FUCK SAKE! CAN ONE OF THE EN GIRL ADDRESS THIS CCVID ISSUE FOR ONCE!! DO SOMETHING GODDAMIT!

>> No.16859686

>>16859278
Updates, mumei 4.2k & 4.2 likes in 15 minutes. The chat is super fast for a 4k stream.

>> No.16859710

>>16859673
Maybe there isn't anything wrong with EN numbers so there is nothing to address?

>> No.16859732

>>16859442
I mean, we know what the girls *should* be getting based on what they historically get, and it's not that much higher. Nowhere close to what the guys are getting, and never has been, not since Lazulight debut. That's the benefit of entering into a completely open market.

>> No.16859740

>>16859673
Superchat Kiara about it if you care so much. She's got the loosest lips and reads all superchats.
Good luck suferring through the 7 hour superchat reading tangent hell though.

>> No.16859749

>>16859673
You can send them a SC begging them too.

>> No.16859840

>>16859537
10k is really impressive for a Niji EN talent. It's not "holy shit he's getting Gura numbers" it's "holy shit he's getting Holo EN numbers" which he is.

>> No.16859881

>>16859686
It is the kind of stream that invites interaction; she is engaging with fan content.

>> No.16860147

>>16859475
It's impossible to be sure, waiting rooms are fucked and some of their numbers looked a bit low to me, but then again I don't keep up day-to-day with NijiEN numbers.
When Saki (Japanese) who gets 330 CCV on screen but has analytics showing 430, you can't really deny viewers ARE getting culled y'know?

>> No.16860199

I don't know how to explain this, but Kronii and Mumei just give me extremely "are you faking this? do you have a problem? do you want to be streaming?" vibes. I used to think it was a council thing but Bae/Sana/Fauna are fine. Watching Kronii/Mumei streams on the other hand is surreal to me.

>> No.16860233

Subaru mentioned wanting to plag yugioh (her father is a big yugioh fag) , no idea if they have perms or not.

>> No.16860250

>>16860199
Wrong thread, especially since Kronii and Mumei get the best numbers in Council.

>> No.16860263

>>16860199
Wrong thread?

>> No.16860299

Which example is the most glaring of this CCV issue with the EN girls you guys keep track of, after the rollback?

>> No.16860386

>>16860299
The Gura stream tonight is a pretty good example.

>> No.16860394

>>16860299
council outfit reveal ones were glaringly atrocious

>> No.16860427

It’s so frustrating watching Gura’s ccv come to a halt while watching her likes increase by the thousands every few minutes.

This is like that one chatting stream she did that turned into a dmc stream halfway in, where she was hovering around like 17.5k views or something and was bouncing between 100 more or less ccv, while her likes were climbing 1k every 5 minutes. It’s just ridiculous seeing it

>> No.16860434

>>16860299
It doesn't seem to have reached "glaring" levels with anyone, just "huh this ain't right". Maybe Gura?

>> No.16860459

>>16859212
>Analytics
It's Coco's fault.
>Holocaust
Is Mio's fault.
What's in store for 2022, Holokeks?

>> No.16860488

>>16860427
T-the culture...EN viewers like more, even though 70% of Gura's audience is not from NA..please andastand

>> No.16860522

>>16860394
Anyone from the holoJP side that could still have the same issue?

>> No.16860722

>>16860434
Thing is, if I remember some of the Alpha variant CCVID numbers correctly, the first wave could be traced to around Dec 18, even though people didn't really recognize it until it started accelerating around Dec 25-26. At the moment, we still have some evidence that some level of CCVID is still happening, but much like before it's really hard to estimate what the numbers "should" be.

>> No.16860755

>>16846138
It's late but can we use this data to estimate how much Watame sold her album? So she sold about 4k from Hololive shop alone?

>> No.16860763

>>16860522
Haachama. Lui's eigo streams.

>> No.16860975

>>16860755
Looks like it yea.
It's not bad at all.

>> No.16861206

>$900 in the first 28 minutes of rushia's countdown stream
>$29k a few hours later
Fandeads, what the fuck. I predicted it surpassed Mysta's birthday but not this high.

>> No.16861247

>>16860722
Did CCVID effect Ayame's and Matsuri's 3d live?

>> No.16861264

>>16860975
So she sold, at the very minimum since Oricon doesn't track foreign sales
Hololive Shop : 2724 + 1200 = 3924
Oricon week 1 : 966
Oricon week 2 : 502
Total : 5302 album sold

Not bad at all.

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I'll just leave it here.

>> No.16861477

>>16861381
Don't, youtube does VOD fuckery with the way they process it, both during and after stream.
You can just point out the fact that most Subaru free talks reach 15-20k+ but 150kis VOD views average if you want to make this point.

>> No.16861573

>>16861381
Wait till 1 day at least, these views proved nothing since even a stream of 100k CCV can have permanent 37k view DURING the event, YT needs to verify later.

>> No.16861593

>>16861206
Do not underestimate the SC queen.
>>16861477
Yea. VOD cope mid-stream is terrilble due to YT being horridly inconsistent. Sometimes they'll freeze it immediately, other times they'll process it in an hour.

>> No.16861747

>>16860459
Pekora dominating nijisanji as usual.

>> No.16861788

>>16861264
I'm blind and missed a week
Oricon week 3 : 250
So she sold at the minimum 5552 album.
I wish Oricon anon updated his chart...

>> No.16862143

I wonder if at this point, Gura moving to a JP timeslot (consistently, not just experimenting with 1 or 2 streams0 would get her unironically better CCV. Since 70% of her views come from non-NA sources anyway, VODs wouldn't even be impact that much, even assuming NA viewers would never do VOD reps.

>> No.16862364

>>16862143
>Gura moving to a JP timeslot
Gura vs Mysta
Gura vs Vox

>> No.16862446

>>16862364
Literally 0 audience overlap so its irrelevant.

>> No.16862473

Gura just mentioned her being on stage for holofes

Guess that’s 3d confirmed

>> No.16862561

>>16862364
We've seen Gura literally get huge to decent numbers numbers every time she dipped into JP times (minecra events, mario kart events, her Shion collab). They wouldn't really be competing, especially since the entire premise of this conversation is that she'd get BIGGER numbers without the CCVid lepers of NA, and she's already beating Mysta and Vox isn't even a fucking challenger.

>> No.16862589

>>16862473
They seem to be dodging the 3D question since her chat is spamming "Is it 3D" and she isn't acknowledging it at all.

...Welp, she just said she can't announce everything concerning it in reference to the chat spam. I guess that confirms the announcement for their 3D debuts is coming very soon.

>> No.16862654

>>16862473
So there will be 3D debut stream before holofes,right?

>> No.16862716

>>16862654
i think a few holos got their 3d model revelaed that way. but i might be wrong.

>> No.16862739

>>16862589
i saw some people bring up marine's 3d. did she debut in fes before her actual debut?

>> No.16862874

>>16862143
Consider moving to twitch, that's it.

>> No.16862881

>>16862739

Marine and Flare showed her 3D models at the 1st Fes first and had proper debuts later

>> No.16862892

https://vrabi.ml/video/KY0CHNBr_Sw
ooff rosemi still having a sever case of ccvid
16min and waiting room not reached. only 2k

>> No.16862916

Since Gura can hold 10k+ for superchat readings she really should work more zatsus into her schedule. Its clear her fans love hearing her talk about things.

>> No.16862940

anons yesterday were predicting koyo's dq at 8k and i think they were on the money

>> No.16862971

The issue of 3d is obvious to me, but anons can't apply logic.
Poster with who's in the concert (so not with "additional cast") is :
-All of Hololive JP except HoloX
-Myth and ID1(both of these gens have 3d confirmed done).

The issue if they're going to appear in 3D is a done deal. Now the question of "are they going to japan to do the mocap themselves" is dumb. No they're not, Japan won't let them in.

They'll voice the performances, the models will be animated by hand/mocap dancers. Its no coincidence that the combos are Myth/ID1 only, it's because neither of them will actually BE on stage.

>> No.16863015

>>16862654
You dont debut on fest or concert anon. They'll use 3D during concert but the debut will be done later properly. Marine and Flare did, so were many nijis

>> No.16863024

>>16862916
that is what minecraft is for. is her zatsu game.

>> No.16863054

>>16862916
Sorry, Sharkie can't bring herself to do just plain ol' Zatsu streams.
She could easily pull 15-20k doing a 'Just chatting + Catchup' stream.

>> No.16863094

>>16862971
Yeah, 3D is obvious. If they weren't going to be 3D then there is no reason Council+IRyS or ID2 couldn't be there as well.

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>>16862892

everyone is watching ange pov instead. rosemi could have actually got a 10k stream if this was on her channel but rip

>> No.16863633

huh so the app update is enabling model updates without that app ui

>> No.16863682

>>16862916
she's afraid of zatsus for some strange reason, that's part of why her schedule this week is full of shitty games because that's what she falls back on instead of just scheduling chatting streams.

>> No.16863843

>>16863682
She doesn't actually have topics she can bring up/doesn't think she does. It's not fear of talking, but fear of running out of stuff to talk about. Superchat lets her bounce tangets and topics off the viewer.

>> No.16863988

https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1484722563922432002
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1484722563922432002
https://twitter.com/SNKPofficial/status/1484722563922432002
in other news
SNK sponsorship

>> No.16864065

>>16862971
consider the following:
-home3d for 3d debut. something with the latest app update. gura mentioned thinking up ideas for streams with the new update that she's hesitant to go into because she's not sure what's officially ok to mention.
-ame mentioned getting mocap suit last month. all the girls have the setup needed except for the hl 3d modcap software. ame has used tracking world before and it's decent enough for normal 3d stream but the render is definitely not up to snuff for holofes.

>> No.16864066

>yeah I watch JP clips of myself, I look for the comments with time stamps, W and same
guess that's another 100k+ JOP clip right there

>> No.16864255

>>16863988
Kek I remembered this game. It's good, but repetitive. Only gacha that isn't and does not punish you heavily imo is arknights.

>> No.16864313

>>16864065
>trust Myth to stream from home and not run into tech issues during their concert
I can't tell if you're retarded or someone who is making an intellectual guess on how retarded Cover can get.

>> No.16864359

If EN and ID have to go to JP to get proper 3D reveals, that means they will all be JP prime time ?

>> No.16864454

>>16858639
Can you draw like froot, sing like ironmouse / nyanners / silvervale, perform slapstick like zentreya, make thousands of people coom like melody or even so much as play FPS games like vei?
Because I really don't think you can do any of these, and these are all talents.

>> No.16864509

>>16864359
probably. unless the studio staff wants to work on normal daytime hours instead of the usual 8pm slot.

>> No.16864514

>>16864313
Come on anon, no fucking way they are doing live live. For starter, there is an issue with latency.

>> No.16864528

>>16864359
Nah, NA prime time is just normal morning for japan.

>> No.16864582

>>16864514
I'm going to break someone's witty bitty JP heart but..not even the JPs will be performing live.

>> No.16864745

>>16864582
Only a 7 year old would think otherwise though?

>> No.16864925

Yo pink cat dog 9k playing jrpg!

>> No.16864924

Gura is literally gaining viewers doing a superchat reading. Not even joking.

This girl is a chatting machine with some of the most unique conversations in hololive jesus

>> No.16865007

>>16848424
>>/vt/thread/S11414822#p11416677
800 was the previous stock number scraped from booth for Ayame

>> No.16865025

Aqua starting, 4k at waiting room

>> No.16865044

>>16864924
She gained viewers when Mumei finished, but she'll continue to bleed viewers to attrition as she continues.

>> No.16865055

>>16864925
it's been hardstuck between 9.5-6k for a while, i love mayorin but it's getting close to slot change so i don't think she's making it

>> No.16865063

>>16864924
Her superchat reading retention has always been insane, just like Pekora's. Hell right now? It's on the low side.

>> No.16865093

>>16865025
oops still 7 minutes

>> No.16865152

>>16864924
Yeah, she is wonderful but she debuffs herself just as bad as Kronii. The reason why it doesn't appear that way is because her raw power smashes through the debuff but she could be bigger than she already is with a better streaming strategy. Not even saying she needs to "STREAM MORE OFTEN" like a lot of the schizos like to say. Just a better strategy. More variety streams/zatsu streams and less shitty indie games.

>> No.16865172

>>16864924
nah, its viewers that were already in the stream passing the verification thing

>> No.16865193

Gura just talked about crying on stage for holofes and the experience of it, and how nervous/excited she is

There’s no way this is just home3d shit. I wonder what the hell is going on

>> No.16865254

>>16865193
I'm sure we will find out. I expect a 3D debut announcement soon before the concert.

>> No.16865286

>>16865152
A motivated Gura would be insane to watch. If she ever finds the motivation to do JP learning streams in the mornings or chatting in afternoon + main stream in the day, she’d pull in so much more viewers I feel

>> No.16865359

>>16865193
yeah but this is gura we're on about. she teared up at the end of dmc5

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