/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16756035
jst evening streams lets goooo....
T_T

>>16756035
I love IRyS!!

I'm going to sleep someone stream Journey for me

>>16756739
Cute! But I think that a white dress would be more summery.

>>16756988
Yeah, flowery and slightly above the knees.

>>16756085
Not that much of a fan of jump King, but whatever as long as I get more IRyS

Just watch today GTAV. Seeing IRyS finally looking at mini-map trying to avoid cops while driving is such a moment.

>>16758920
She'll forget about next time.

You did stream your favorite Journey song today, right?

oh god
that chad cast thing is scaring me

>>16760680
Me too

>>16760680
I was about to post this too. I have mixed feelings for it. I just hope they won't place our Nephilim on the spot.

>>16756035
>JumpRyS

That is not until like over 12 hours from now.

Also how far up will IRyS go in one stream?

>>16760933
Hope will likely ascend

>>16760933
22 hours. Depends how genki she's feeling I guess. She could get to pic related if she takes it somewhat seriously.

>>16760933
She will beat the game

>>16756085
I kind of want her to drop out of the CHAD cast. Mori has been completely unhinged lately and I don't want her corrupting IRyS.

>>16761583
I don't know what is happening with Mori and I don't really read anything outside of this thread. I also don't watch clips of other HoloENs. Can you give me a tldr.

>>16761583
bro face it, IRyS cares a lot more for Mori than her audience's opinion of Mori. I guess it's only natural when you actually interact and are friends in real life...

>>16761712
Just because she is friends with Mori doesn't mean she will be friends with other people outside of Hololive. I think the most that you can get as far as collabs can go is with HoloStars but that would be Bae but Bae herself doesn't really drag Irys to do those things. It's always HoloID and lately Mumei. Also, when Mori was chatting Irys about her friends, the conversation was very clear that they were her friends and not Irys. Only thing Mori wants is for her to meet Milky. That's all.

>>16761689
>reaper is friends with a certain group of male podcasters
>podcaster says meanie thing about hololive
>seethe ensues
>retarded reaper goes out of way to defend them, making a big deal out of anti supas and generally handling it the worst way possible
>/vt/ finds latest thing to talk about ad infinitum

She is just triggering the schizos on this board, she will stop once they get bored and move on.

>>16761689
Mori handling trolls pretty badly. More like pouring gasoline on a fire.
>>16761712
I remembered I posted something about sociopath relationships over the last thread. I just hope it ain't real.

>>16761859
Another thing to point out is that Mori I think is very aware already of how shy and aloof Irys is in real life. To an extent that she just can't suddenly bump her meetups with hers and the other party. She has done 3 high teas with her and just recently asked Irys to meet Milky. And I'm sorry to say this but Irys is kind of stuck up and a straight man. She doesn't like neets, smokers and overall rude people. Her set of friends in real life are all mostly women who are either utas or professionals. None of which have shown to like clickbait anime reviewers.

Where's the armchair psychologist chad picture

>>16762126
Nah man. There's a reason why it's very hard to do opsec on Irys. She understands how the internet works and prefers to not deal with drama. And she has experienced first hand how people in the internet can be downright retarded.

It's really annoying having to deal with this since we're in the Moriradiation splash zone.

>>16762307
Like how you're being right now?

>>16762425
I have known Irys even before she was Irys. I have first hand experience of what happened before and all I can say is that she did what she can even though people were really fucking dumb. She was professional and courteous to the very end. So no. I just know she's not that stupid. If she thinks something is not worth the trouble, she won't push through with it even if majority says she should.

>>16762126
I was gonna post an INB4, but here's a full context of the sociopath relationship that I was talking about. No one is getting diagnose.

>>16762713
This can only happen if and only if she wasn't so close and reliant to her family. If her sister was a sociopath then maybe you can have a story there but not a boyfriend. I bet you have to pass AneRys high standards before even getting a chance to go on a second date with Irys

>>16762939
Maybe she will date you if you were the male version of AneRys

https://twitter.com/Rata_tori_/status/1484175805332672514
Oh my...

>>16756035

The REAL >Previous Thread:
>>16745912

>>16762555
>>16762939
The little time i gave gotten to know her, both this posts make sense, even more coming from an oldfag.
Though i have confidence on IRyS doing the right thing when dealing with delicate matters such as the shitshow that has surrounded Mori, i can't help but still worry a little when she has picked up vocabulary from Mori. Showing the influence even if small on her by friends.
I am still sane to keep this feeling in check but it still makes me reluctant to seeing them interact.
Call me an unicorn, even if I'm not on that level of craziness i sympathize with them when the posibility of StarsEN is not zero.
I understand that HolostarsJP are respectable guys but they are both different branches, Hololive and Holostars. It feels wrong to have someone like IRyS, Fauna, Amelia and Gura interact with male counterparts when they unconsciously have maintained and reinforced the Gosling portion of their fanbases.
Not to mention that they are the most invested both in time and money after the Gachikois.
I'll go ahead and take my meds.

Guys let's just all calm down for now.
We can assess the damage after the chadcast.

>>16763792
What am I supposed to do if I can't doompost on my favorite split until then

Listen to IRyS' Kamippoi na:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_gZHcV4SxE&t=3794s

>>16763792

>>16763792
<3

>>16763710
>vocabulary from Mori
I think that being friends with someone doesn't really mean being friends with their friends as well. But that's just me. It maybe different for Irys. We will have to wait and see
>It feels wrong to have someone like IRyS, Fauna, Amelia and Gura interact with male counterparts
I think that this is going to be a choice that they will have to make for their career much like how a majority of HoloJP hasn't interacted with Holostars. If she wants to collab with them then yeah, I guess we will have to stomach it but I'm very certain that this is something that they will have to decide on their own. I don't think Cover will put all of them in a room and force them to interact.

It was really cute when IRyS actually got sad over that guy dying in gta.

>>16764082
Would comment on the second reply but it's off-topic, on response to the first quote;
It's all about the slippery slope, which i know, it's very simplistic to run just on that phenomenon when assessing things such as what is being discussed.
I agree with you regardless of what the little schizo demon makes me think.

>>16764303
Man, it made me feel bad seeing her react to trevor. But then again, she went on and tried to kill that guy's woman so it was just the shock from how graphic and messed up trevor is the second time 6ou get to see him.

>>16764550
She really doesn't like ntr no matter how much she jokes about it huh

>>16764675
She likes harem. It's technically not NTR when all of the high school girls and white haired ikemens are yours.

>>16763792
There won't be any damage, everything will be fine

IRyS please play Outlast...

>>16765860
She's not good with horror

I hope she doesn't get frustrated by JK and can just chill and run a totsu while she plays- I've fairly enjoyed those streams from others.

are you cringelords really afraid Mori is going to "corrupt" Irys just because she told some dumb superchatter to fuck off

>>16766034
Not because of that, just in general.
>>16766005
Isn't watching her get frustrated the main appeal of Jump King?

>>16766073
Irys isn't a vunerable little girl and Mori isn't a bad person

>>16766034
Nope. I think Irys will stay friends with Mori but will still maintain a divide between Mori's friends and herself because she doesn't like drama.

>>16766104
That's debatable.

>>16766034
That was just the latest thing that has me worried about her being close to Mori.

>>16766135
It's strange of you to assume that she would be friends with Connor and pals just because Mori is
Are you friends with all your friends friends? I'm not

Mori is explaining the benefit of going on Trash Taste right now.
She's showing off her album sales.
It's over bros.
She's practically dating Connor already

>>16766189
Anon?? Read the whole statement. I said she will stay being friends with Mori but will keep a distance from Mori's friends. Mori was very specific during their NY totsu with Irys that the lot was her friends and not people that Irys already knew.

>>16766307
You're phrasing it like Mori is trying to force her friends on Irys and Irys has to defend herself from them

>>16766354
He's right. Look what Ollie did to Moona. You may not see it but it's a legitimate concern

>>16763792
As some Gosling anon couple threads back made me realize. Trusting your oshi is pure GFE.
I love IRyS and I think she loves us. You can see how after bad day, she slowly becomes more relaxed and happy after streaming.
Mori and Bae are her great friends. Bae has same sense of humour and taste in anime and Mori is good senpai for music production. Their only issue is that they are pandering to males.
They may force some collab with male. Even more likely when HolostarsEN will debiut, but that won't change the fact, that IRyS is professional and won't risk making us sad.
Also hanging out with Mori's irl friends is literally impossible. IRyS hates trashy people

>>16766423
>IRyS hates trashy people
She hangs out with Mori...

>>16766403
Ollie's not Mori and Irys isn't Moona
It's not a legitimate concern, and even if it was, you don't get to make decisions for her, she's not your daughter

>>16766354
Not really. That's just your schizo mind acting up. When I said "maintain a divide" that means Irys herself is choosing not to touch on the subject. Mori is not forcing her but she clearly is letting Irys know that she does have other people she hangs out with. Only thing she wishes is for Irys to hang out with Milky which she already said on a stream more than once.

>>16766073
>Isn't watching her get frustrated the main appeal of Jump King?
I mean sure, the reactions to big falls / going on tilt and just dropping continuously are big draws, but I meant actual frustration. Some folks who try it get really riled up and just can't have fun with it.

>>16766482
"Maintaining a divide" is something two countries at war do
You're treating this whole topic with needless hostility

>>16766456
I know I don't make decisions for her, that's why I'm worried.
For the record, I don't give a shit who she spends time with off stream. I hope she has a good social life with all that comes with it. I don't want it on stream and I sure as shit don't want her collabing with fucking anitubers and twitch ecelebs. Mori herself said she wants people with her when she collabs with Critikal. Do you really think IRyS will turn her down?

>>16766448
This is funny but it's true. Mori is the only person that I know of that Irys hangs out with that can be considered "trashy" because of the way she dresses up and talks but overall, she's hardworking and driven. I remember her calling Mori's clothes as rapper clothes. Made me chuckle.

listening to IRyS q&asmr stream before sleep keeps all the shitty things away
i love her too much

>>16766482
Did IRyS mentioned something like "she can't wait to meet Milky" on stream?
If not, then we can assume that she already said to Mori that she can fuck off

>>16766642
Why the hell would you assume Mori would invite Irys to collab with Critikal
Do you see any chemistry there? I don't
I thought they shut down the Critikal collab idea like a year ago

>>16766578
Being hostile would have us shitting on mori like shitposting threads do, some here are concerned but are not hostile to the chuuba in question.
As a chumbud i don't like kiara, but doesn't mean i go out of my way to shit on kfp threads or antipost about kiara.
You are just acting like a retarded schizo.

>>16766728
She said yes on Mori's chat when Mori was talking about it in one of her SC reading. I think she also agreed to it during the NY Totsu

>>16766790
Well you sound like you have very poor social awareness but that's not surpising I guess considering you're a vtuber fan

Can deadbeats fuck off from this thread?

The cat is out of the bag.

>>16766738
They did but it's back on the table now and for some reason Mori has a wild hair up her ass. Not to the level of Ollie or Astel but she's making waves.
I'm hoping everything is fine but I don't blame people for being concerned.

>>16766941
You can think what you want about Mori but it's dsirespectful to Irys, like you don't want her to make her own decisions
Not that there's a chance in hell of her collabing with that guy anyway, like I said, there's no chemistry there, it's a ridiculous concern

>>16767050
Women make bad decisions all the time and must be protected from themselves. It's not disrespectful.

>>16767079
That's very disrespectful, you're treating her like a child, not a woman

>>16767050
People will concern and there is nothing you can do about it besides shit on what is regularly a polite thread.

>>16767096
a lot of women unironically like being treated like that though

>>16766498
>Some folks who try it get really riled up and just can't have fun with it.
NTA, but I can see it going south fast for a number of reasons. I’m going to remain confident that she knows her limits with expressing any malcontent, though.

>>16767096
Are you a woman by any chance?

>>16767102
Your concern isn't polite

this is why you don't make threads between streams, there is nothing of worth here

>>16767141
It is because it remains here and stays here.

>>16767153
No one's forcing you to read the thread between streams.

>>16767160
No it isn't
You're literally treating her like she's your property instead of a human being

>>16767200
she is, she streams for our entertainment

>>16767221
everyone who responds further to this individual is a faggot, including me

>>16767221
Somehow I assumed Irys would have better fans than other vtubers but I guess not

>>16767050
How is it disrespectful that she would help her friend out? Keep in mind very few people outside of here are going to give any pushback to it. Mori herself is getting praised everywhere else for her latest spergout.

>Ctrl-F Mori
>40 results
ByeRYS

>>16767200
I don't know why you are so riled up. You don't want people to treat her like a child but you can't acknowledge that Irys herself is actively making a choice like an adult to distance herself from drama of which we call Mori's friends. Mori obviously isn't forcing her to hang out with her friends and Irys knows that. I think that is one of the reasons why they are friends. Because they are chill with each other. No need to make a fuss. It's not a war. It's just adult being adults.

>>16767321
I mean it's disrespectful for fans to not let her make her own decisions

Reminder to not reply to bait and enjoy VODs instead.

>>16767363
You are making us seem like a powerful entity that can dictate what she does.
Take your meds.

This thread just keeps getting worse and worse

>>16767352
>you can't acknowledge that Irys herself is actively making a choice like an adult to distance herself from drama of which we call Mori's friends.
It's really bizzare that you thought she made any decision on this topic in the first place
The drama exists in your heads and in Moris head, why would you assume Irys even knows about it, or cares? You're projecting all your insecurities onto her

>>16767363
You are mixing up me not wanting her to do something with me saying she can't. She can obviously do whatever she wants and I'm free to be butthurt over it

>>16767414
Slow day desu

>>16767461
This.

>Wake up
>Thread full of doomposting like usual
Another day in the office,now go back to work, I mean to stream journey and your reps.

If only Mori could get deported... Someone needs to frame her for drug use.

>>16767321
>getting praised everywhere else for her latest spergout
If you post something bad about it you'll get attacked by her fans, of course you keep your mouth shut if you don't want to get harassed.

>>16767513
The doomposting is fucking ridiculous, there's absolutely no connection between Irys and any of this but people are inventing stories about it anyway

>>16767541
Nah the whole EN community loves interactions with males and e-celebs. Just look at the comments on this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYias-g_wgA

>>16767431
Anon. She knows who those people are. She knows about gachis and how idol culture works. She's an otaku herself simping for a loli in an idol game. She's also clipwatcher. She doesn't visit this site but she has probably gotten recommendations about it. No need to pretend like she's dumb or think she's unaware of the world. You are unironically treating her like a child.

>>16767461
There's nothing wrong with that, but the way some people talk they'd rather not have her make her own decisions and just do what they want instead

>>16767640
That would be ideal.

Was watching her GTA vod and i didn’t know that you can’t kill ashley, she fucking chased her until her mission failed. It was hilarious. Your oshi is something else, irystocrats.

>>16767513

>>16767606
Who said anything about being dumb? This "drama" from their perspective is a minor thing that happened a couple of days ago. There's no reason to assume she would even know. Just because it's a massive, world-shattering event in your mind it doesn't mean it is to other people

>>16767606
My bet is that, Anon is a femanon.

>>16767640
She will do what Omega wants not what she wants because if she can do what she wanted we should have 2 covers already released before SoJ. She also won't have horns but cat ears.

>>16767657
Shork ran her over and killed her kek
Guess car beats plot armour

>>16767722
Huh, i missed that lol.

>>16767647
Well if you think that you're a sociopathic fuck and don't deserve to call yourself a fan of anyone

>fast forward 3 months
>she's yucking it up with some anituber
>raving about the shabu shabu place they ate at
There are no meds for this feel. I weep for the poor goslings

>>16767752
Don't do this to me, man.

>>16767606
>She doesn't visit this site
I thank heaven for that.

This general is a real shitshow today. Huh!?

>>16767798
>today

>>16767791
As do i, a doomposter.

>>16767329
:(

>>16767752
FUCK YOU!

>>16767700
I actually only heard about it here today because I don't live /here/ like you but Irys pretty much watches all clips related to Holos and watches streams incognito.

>>16767809
I should have said shittier than usual and yes, I can tell.

>>16767723
She's not being micromanaged like that on the vtuber side and she seems to be able to do whatever she wants.

>>16767809
Wait, my bad. I thought I was at hlgg

>>16767823
Irys watches every single Hololive clip huh, even when she has to stream, record and her grandma is sick in hospital

Now would be a really good time for sound anon, crossword puzzle anon, or anything other than bait posters and bored people taking the bait.

It’d be nice if Mori could’ve handled those scs just a little bit better so we wouldn’t have to deal with this shitshow

>>16767752
OH NYOOOOO HOW COOULD THIS HAPPEN I SHOULD'VE LISTENED THE OTHER ANONS ABOUT STREAMING https://cover.lnk.to/Journey OH NOOOOOO

>>16767875
>anon hasn’t developed omniscience yet
Oh, (You).

>>16767932
We need IRyS to save this drivel with an #IRySpace

>>16767951
She really doesn't understand the damage she's doing to our schizophrenic community

>>16767932
But Soundanon is dead...

>>16768018
I still have hope.

>>16768027
>watermelons

>>16767875
If there's any holoEN she watches when she's free it would be Mori. Other than that it's mostly HoloJP. Heck her Chrome won't function right at one point because she has so many clip tabs open

>>16768036
I don't understand people who look forward to some deepfake porn scenario. It feels exploitative and disrespectful.

>>16768018
Then someone needs to become the new Soundanon and start the circle again.

>>16767990
Her lying down on couch voice..

>>16768027
I'm more of a legs person, but I want to squeeze those perfectly palm sized squishy anti-stress balls

I'll still be here for you gosling bros. They are calling you schizo now for worrying and will call you an incel later. Pay it no mind. Your pain is valid

>>16768127
Femanon please go back to discord or twitter.

>>16768101
I watch Mori and I didn't know about this gayass "drama" until I came here and you retards were complaining about it like the world was ending
Sane people don't give a shit about things like this

>>16768151

>>16768127
? That was someone else. Soundanon was just the one who clipped each stream. And he was working on a wholesome romance VN not vocaroo degeneracy.

I just listened to Journey and honestly this feels really bad and generic. Thee isn't a HERE COMES HOPE to save the EP and it seems more like a bunch of OP and EDs from forgettable anime.

I was hoping haha for so much more desu. Does she have any input on he songs or is she just doing what Cover tells her to do with the lyricist and composes she gets?

>>16768210
She has no artistic freedom.

>>16768210
The latter.

>>16767951
An unironic time where Gura's strategy of ghosting everybody and not responding to anything would have been much preferred. Mori could learn a thing or two from Gura bout dealing with internet trolls.

Go watch anime, play vidya, or something else that is not posting on this site~ <3
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>>16768210
Irys is just a vocalist, she gets told what to do and that's it
She sounds pretty dissapointed with the whole thing which is sad

>>16768274
Gura is based. Mori is more like the tourists in here talking about "sane people"

>>16768319
Indeed.

>>16768278
I lose sleep on a constant basis because of this hellscape, as I have for so very long now. The ride never ends.

>>16768210
She mentioned that one of the songs she first heard the day of recording.

>>16768319
>tourists
I've been here since it was the raspberry heaven dc hub

>>16768319
Funnily enough the issue came from Mori talking about insane people kek

I do miss the general back then, the times before the stream where IRyS was with Kronii in MC happened.
It had soul, I remember there were more soundposts (especially music ones. What happened to those? Recently there's not much posted or even none.)
I remember soundbitanon's posts before he was soundbitanon. That drawanon was more frequently posting.
We had IRyS all to ourselves but eventually we had to share with other fanbases. I personally dislike the effects it had.

>>16768353
Bullshit.

>>16768343
This means you need to take a break idiot. Learn to manage yourself better.

>>16768176
I don't see a lot of people complaining. I see just people saying Irys won't really hang out with "them" because they aren't her cup of tea or concerned that she's going to be interacting with Men more since she is their push. I don't really see that as a big deal. A lot of her fans do watch her for that GFE.

>>16768384
I severely doubt anyone who wasn't here for that even knows what it is
You're just idiots inventing unlikely cuck fantasies about Irys collabing with men
If you want to be worried about something you should be worried about Holostars EN

>>16768210
I mean it's going to be J-Pop so I don't know what you could have been expecting that would be so much better. I think Only in Hope and Bare your teeth are as good as HCH, just less iconic, and I really like her slower songs.
>>16768377
Maybe the lack of singing lead to that.

>>16768377
>don't do a shit
>complain
why won't (You) take care of it then?

>>16768377
You should be grateful you got to experience that, had she had a "better model", those days would have never existed.

>>16768251
>>16768263
>>16768279
Man this sucks ass. She has such a good voice whenever she's singing something that she's really passionate about.
>>16768477
I disagree, there is so much good J-Pop out there and this is as generic as it gets.

>>16768210
I really like AyaFubuMi's new song. It was created by PandaBoY. I know he tends to do a lot of J=pop but he does create easy-going songs that has viral appeal like Blue Clapper. I hope Irys can get a song from him. I think he can make her go viral. I also fucking hope they just keep it in Japanese.

Personally I love IRyS’ live singing far more than her records. Which is probably why I’m never too keen on her studio albums. Her clarity and elegance shines so much more live than her studio stuff.

>>16768584
True that.

Journey isn't "J-Pop". It's 2000s hard rock. It would probably have done really well, in the 2000s, but today it sounds quite stale

>>16768210
Journey is amazing, fuck off

>>16768452
I'm just lamenting the fact that HoloEN is a bad influence and things are going to get worse.

>>16768631
She's not a child and people you don't like aren't going to be a "bad influence" on her

You'll forgive her, right?

Journey is far better than her first album which was all I could have hoped for (no pun intended. Her first EP was even more heinous in terms of being terribly generic.

>>16768688
You talk like you never had siblings or have had parents involved in your upbringing.

>>16768688
You misunderstand their argument. They will have influence over her, that's a fact of everyday life. It's bad because they don't like it.

>>16768631
It's funny that you say that because even if Irys is part of HoloEN, I always feel a different vibe from her compared to the 2 generations. Sure she melds well with them but her vibe feels more HoloJP but not really. If she debuted with Gen5 or HoloX, I wouldn't blink an eye.

>>16768744
>They will have influence over her
Not the influence you're afraid of

>>16768729
The songs on CoD were beautiful although Journey is better. I think Journey is a masterpiece.

>>16768782
You don't know that.

>>16768584
I agree completely. Realistically, however, utawaku can only carry their relative weight; I think her voice could do wonders for slower tempo songs. I’d enjoy seeing her branch out more musically, but it’s not her decision to make.

>>16768782
How do you know that? You're neither IRyS nor Mori nor anyone close enough to know the quality of someone's influence.
Mori being trashy already makes her suspect.

>>16768816
>>16768729

It baffles me people actually think this but music taste is subjective so I'm glad you anons like it.

>>16768729
To each their own. I love CoD and Diorama. I also like Flower of Hope and Sink again, Rise Again from Journey.

>>16768827
Irys doesn't seem very impressionable and Mori respects peoples personal boundaries
This is literally a made up cuck fantasy
It's like you WANT her to collab with men so you'll have something to be upset about

>>16768833
The problem with slower tempo songs is that the lyrics become more noticeable and important and they don't have native English lyricists.

>>16768859
Honestly this.

>>16768889
>Irys doesn't seem very impressionable
I get the opposite impression.

>>16768279
>She sounds pretty dissapointed with the whole thing which is sad
You're projecting. She really likes the Journey songs and she hasn't expressed any dissatisfaction with not having control over the songs she's made so far, only an interest in having control over some in the future.

>>16768893
This is why she needs more JP songs. Flower of Hope was beautiful.

>>16768924
Absolutely this.

>>16768859
>>16768895
Why are you faggots even here?

>>16768912
I think you're mistaking being impressionable with being naive
She's pretty sheltered and doesn't know a lot about the world, but people who are impressionable don't have a clear sense of who they are, and they tend to go along with what people tell them to do, Irys doesn't do that, infact she often shuts it down when people start doing things she's uncomfortable with

>>16768913
Moderate rrat coming through.
When Irys called into Kiara's shrine stream and she got the "be more creative" Irys sounded stumped and said something among the lines of not being very creative and not having much creative freedom when it comes to her content creation.

She probably doesn't like that Cover is the one picking her songs, her lyrics and just being a vocalist for a project she doesn't seem too enthused about.

>>16768893
Another thing is that Japanese music is built around Japanese Lyrics. If they want to make an English Song, then they will really have to hire people overseas or English Composers and Lyricists. Fucking Tiktok musicians can make decent English songs with a guitar because it's what they are exposed to.

>>16768859
HCH is better than any of the Journey songs, I give you. But you can't complain about genericness in Journey and then turn around and say that CoD and Diorama aren't generic. They are super generic.

>>16768973
They are here just to shit-up the thread. Keep posting let's go for a "Kill the thread" RTA.

>>16768893
>and they don't have native English lyricists.
It pains me every time I think about it. Worse yet, Cover rarely learns a lesson in any fashion akin to expeditious, so that’ll either never change or be unbelievably slow to. I agree with anon here >>16768924 as a reasonable expectancy.

>>16768913
She said that things haven't always gone as planned but that wasn't in relation to Journey in particular

>>16769023
Nah she has plenty of fans who don't care for her singing and are just there for the horny noises.

She should do a duet with a male

>>16768973
I understand the criticism towards the album, still i liked two songs.
Flower of Hope and Nameless Sadness.

>>16769003
Songs are "built around" lyrics, when you write songs you usually just sing nonsense lyrics and come up with the actual words last

>>16768833
Anything that allows her to trill (Happy Working Song) or fade out her voice slowly (One Last Kiss) would be fantastic. Or something sensual (Santa Baby). We goslingbros like to spam about it but IRyS genuinely has an attractive, sexy tone when she’s allowed to show it. Her voice is almost tailor made to fall in love with if the song lets her sing it that way. She can sound mature, rich, lilting, teasing, naturally attractive — all without losing that beautiful crystal clear clarity in her voice.

>>16768973
>come to the irys thread to discuss irys
>Why are you faggots even here?

I'm sorry I forgot we have to accept everything Irys does as perfect and never be critical of it?

>>16768985
She knows plenty enough. She just doesn't know about the meme culture. She has survived so far as a self-employed young adult who pushed through with what she wanted to do in life even if that means she had to live alone away from her family. She knows what she wants even though she's not that confident about it. She's still pushing through though. You have her as Irys now.

>>16769088
We are timelooping again. There is not a single original thought about IRyS ITT.

>>16769156
Irys is hilariously clueless about pretty much everything except anime

>>16769206
We must protect her. I wish anons could see that

>>16769252
She's not a child you fucking idiot

>>16769206
She is smarter than most people ITT (including (Me)).

>>16769252
It does invoke the desire to protect, I'll give you that, it's the reason behind the concern/doomposting.

>>16769003
It's almost like Cover really has no business having an English VSinger. I mean it's great that it brought us IRyS, but they seem to have not put much thought into what to do with her.

>>16768859
I just can’t wait for the third album

>>16769268
She basically is.

>>16769297
Cover was just a bad video game developer until they accidentally created a successful vtuber

>>16769297
>the performance of Journey will determine the future of her next projects
I believe it.

>>16769077
When I mean by this is that different music influences build their music differently. They have different progressions and structure overall. That's why Kpop is so weird to some people in NA or how ID songs sounds so "incomplete" to some. They are just build different. Also, Lyrics can be written before or after. It depends on the songwriter and their process. Irys's EP is pretty lore based so it's safe to assume that they probably created the concepts first and maybe some of the running lyrics first that they wanted to incorporate per song.

I'm leaving this thread until next stream.
Chumpedos, deadbraps and schizos you won

I'm more worried about that wierdo Omega than Mori to be honest.

>>16769399
thanks to mori

>>16769323
Hold on, let's wait for the first one to come out before we start hyping a third

>>16769297
Sometimes feels like the entire project hope idea comes from someone with zero idea on marketing/music industry.

>>16769389
>When I mean by this is that different music influences build their music differently.
Sure, and Journey is 100% western rock music, which Japanese musicians are good at writing. It's not even bad either, its just really dated and generic. There's no language barrier problem here

>>16769495
Yes and their name rhymes with bosega

>>16769495
Have you thanked Omegay yet?

>>16769534
>>16769543
You mean the one pushing Holostars on twitter? Glad IRyS is in good hands

>>16769511
Really? No language barrier whatsoever? I had to relisten to all of the songs several times except for Sink again, Rise again and Flower of Hope before I was able to enjoy them because the lyrics were always mildly awkward.

>>16769511
Nigga this has to be the lowest IQ music opinion I've heard about this album, did you even listen to it?

>>16769618
What the lyrics of a song are literally saying is one of the least important things in music

>>16769659
Dumbest post in this thread. Congratulations!

It's weird how people think how the song sounds is what is required to make it successful. It's almost all marketing and IRyS has been fucked from the start by having an odd model and debuting alone. That coupled with the fact that they don't hype her music and literally drop them at a moments notice means they're doomed to fail.

Look at Mumei's song. I think she's fine and all but I don't think it's better than any of the songs on Journey, but it was hyped by her and promoted by her peers. Barely any other Holos have hyped IRyS new EP up at all even with a retweet.

IRyS music can't even get a sticky on the cover run hololive subreddit with over 600k subscribers, despite the Myth song being pinned there for a week. People think it's schizo talk but they're fucking her over so hard by treating her as an afterthought.

>>16769631
Actually Bare your Teeth sounds pretty Japanese but all the other songs sound exactly like something from within tempatation, nightwish or after forever

>>16769681
You don't understand music very well

>>16769705
>IRyS music can't even get a sticky on the cover run hololive subreddit with over 600k subscribers
IRyS's choice. She is one of us, she hates *eddit.

>>16769681
I understand very little Japanese songs yet I love Japanese music. Look at how popular Niers soundtrack is with its made up bullshit. You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>16769681
The dumbest post in the thread was the idiot who said all songs are written first by poem and then matching that poem to music. Recognizing that lyrics are only a portion of how music 'works' is a pretty standard opinion for people with common sense.

>>16769374
https://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/dia/w/2022-01-24/
Numberfag. She placed top 10 in the digital albums chart for Oricon with a total of 493 downloads aggregated from Mora and Ototoy. I don't know if they include Amazon JP. If we are going to assume that all of those purchases were High Res then that means 1.5M JPY. Not including Itunes or streaming revenue or merch sales. They probably got their investment back with the merch sales alone.

>>16769705
It's not just marketing, but yes the total lack of marketing is just another bulletpoint in why Cover has no idea how to manage an EN VSinger. They are not even attempting to attract even their own customer base, forget people outside of it.

>>16769705
IRyS in turn has never promoted any of her Senpai's projects.
She deserves it.

>>16769714
This is why I said this is the dumbest musical opinion here, 2000s pop rock and symphonic metal aren't even close to the same thing. It sounds like you just have a very bare surface level understanding of music and are trying to force journey into genre categories it simply isn't in.

>>16769835
Oh, good to know that. Thank you resident numberfag.

>>16769896
symphonic metal IS 2000s pop rock

>>16769858
She retweets other EN music all the time. She hyped Kroniis song in the collab the otherday.

>>16769923
That anon doesn't pay attention to streams.

>>16769826
Nta but the dumbest posters are the two retards who think "lyrics are not the least important thing in music" means "music without decent lyrics can't be good"

>>16769793
The meaning of the words is not that important in all songs, but the flow of words is vitally important, especially in music where the star is the vocalist. Words that seem like they should make sense or that should flow in a certain way to native speakers, but don't do that in a song disturb the flow. That is the very reason why Nier uses a made up language, it's all about keeping the flow and they didn't want the language getting in the way for everyone.

>>16769918
Concession accepted

>>16769835
~13k US of countable moneys, that's about 6 weeks of supachats from her streams. they're still gonna consider this a big success, no way they think of this as a loss, but man do those downloads have major room to grow for a launch.

>>16770012
It is literally popular rock music from the 2000s
If I had my old library here I could go through it and pick out songs that sound almost exactly the same as the ones on this album

>>16770021
If they hadn't fucked her on an outfit reveal she could have promoted here EP and mer an audience of 30k+

>>16770050
Please do, YouTube has every song you could imagine on it, just pick one and link it here

>>16769858
She retweets all sorts of Hololive music. She even retweeted Risu.

>>16770008
>That is the very reason why Nier uses a made up language, it's all about keeping the flow and they didn't want the language getting in the way for everyone.
Another example is Now We Are Free from Gladiator; it fit thematically despite being basically baby speak.

>>16770140
It would take a fairly long time to browse through thousands of songs on Youtube

>>16770144
No. That doesn't fit his narrative.

>>16770171
If Journey sounds like any generic mid-2000s Western rock then it shouldn't be hard to find the first thing that comes to mind right?

>>16770021
Numberfag again. She actually earned 1M JPY for her 6th month anniversary which was last week and has earned more than 500k JPY for the past 3 solo streams she has done since then. An EP release can be considered a celebration stream on my book. Here you go https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/channel/UC8rcEBzJSleTkf_-agPM20g.html

>>16770199
>If Journey sounds like any generic mid-2000s Western rock
It doesn't. It sounds like one particular type. It sounds like the female-fronted symphonic metal bands who decided to popify their sound. I said if I had my old collection I could find something that sounds almost exactly the same, but I don't

>>16769835
That without counting amazon and others places, probably not great but enough to make profits,which is a good sign for something with zero marketing. Next step should be a album for her 1 year anniversary with 2-3 new songs(1 probably already done) and the 2 EPs to milk more the cow. COME ON OMEGAY I'M DOING YOUR FUCKING WORK HERE

>>16770300
Well you already mentioned a couple bands, why not just pick one from there? I mean I don't want to assume you've been talking out of your ass this whole time, you wouldn't do that I'm sure

>>16770115
I’ll always keep this in mind whenever I see Cover promoting something else without issue.

>>16770172
Kek

>>16770406
Sure, it sounds like Within Temptation

>>16770427
I asked you to link a song anon, please keep up. Any within temptation song, go for it.

>>16770509
Why? So you can say "no they aren't the similar at all"? I'm not sure what you're arguing about

>>16770562
All I'm asking is for you to substantiate your claims anon, it's very simple

>>16770661
You're being a coward and trying to have an argument without exposing your position
I'm not sure what you're butthurt about

>>16770262
>and has earned more than 500k JPY for the past 3 solo streams

Not to take away from that,but that's pretty much her normal rate even before her announcement, for solo, non sponsored content.

>>16770708
Concession accepted

>>16770305
They are certainly not bleeding money with Irys. I mean she has earned so far $198,453 in SCs alone. They were probably using the 30% cut they get and the profits from her previous EP to fund her music. They atleast would have earned back their initial investment

>>16770751
Youre too much of a pussy to even make a counter-claim
I can't concede to you if you never entered the fight

>>16770305
>probably not great but enough to make profits
You have to wonder if the lack of promotion is on purpose to establish a baseline for much they can make from little to no promotion. 5D chess move if so.

>>16770752
Irys is making money but her music might not be

>>16770722
Yeah. My point is that her EP performance is relatively poor? If we only use Oricon and her SCs. That would be dumb to do though because we know a major chunk of her audience probably bought her EP on Itunes or just bought her merch instead since it has her EP anyways. It available everywhere even in YT Music so if you have Spotify Premium or YT Premium, I don't see the need to purchase it if you are going to get a physical of it anyways. Weird thing is that her EP isn't going to be sold in JP Music stores unlike Mori's first EP.

>>16770752
Also without counting members. The money numbers are ogey and no one should fear anything about IRyS future in hololive, her music is another topic.

>>16770752
Yeah, she's definitely an excellent hire for them. The question is whether there is any point in them producing her music, when their talent that self-produce do much better and seem to have just as good of a reach.

>>16771050
If only Mori could manage her

>>16770964
I think it is still on topic if we assume that she is being handled by a separate team. Which means Cover's cut from her streaming profits are being managed by the Hope Project who are probably reallocating it to fund her EPs and Music. It looks good on the outside because you know where the money is going unlike with the rest however, it also makes you frustrated given how they are earning so much from IRyS but they are effectively mismanaging her by not doing things properly for her like common sense marketing

>>16771176
I think being a "vsinger" just means she has a dedicated person or team who create music for her. It doesn't make sense to manage her streaming fianances any differently

>>16771176
>if we assume that she is being handled by a separate team

Is she though? Omegay seems to be involved with everything EN and none of her music production involved anyone that Cover has never used before. There's no reason to believe that she has any more dedicated staff than anyone else or that her funds are handled differently.

>>16771246
We don't really know that. We only know that all holo talents can get funds from Cover to make OGs. We also know they fund Unit songs and albums for the talents as well. It has to come from somewhere. It's just that many talents aren't motivated to have their own OGs. That's why you hire Vsinger. So you can fund it to make music that you want. Also, they aren't creating music for her. That was INNK. They just dish out money and look for people they think will make good music.

>>16771176
This is why you sub to Nword too.

>>16771539
You can look at the credits of her music if you want to know
It just doesnt make sense to use her streaming profits specifically to fund her music
Cover is a company with money, you just use the companys money

>>16771617
>black company

>>16771392
Using the same people that you already have worked with doesn't mean you don't have dedicated staff, it only means that your team doesn't have connections. I think Kiara or Mori has described Project Hope as being a separate entity from HoloEN as a whole. Different team. Of course Omegay is probably dipping his toes everywhere and is handling that team but that doesn't really negate it.

One problem with her music is that I don't think IRyS has found her own voice or style yet. If you listen to something like Stellar Stellar it's instantly recognizable as a Suisei song for example. IRyS isn't really the type to experiment or add her own personal touches or flourishes while singing. I don't know if it would be any different even if she was more involved in the creative process. It's more of a personal issue.
>>16771563
She doesn't make any new content.

>>16771176
>>16771539
>>16771724
Your baseless speculation sounds so idiotic

>>16771617
She mentioned it on her SC reading after Skyrim. She said everything helps her to fund her next projects. SCs, Memberships, Streaming adsense, EP and Merch sales.

>>16771739
Irys is a great singer, there's nothing wrong with her singing at all, she's just not given any great songs to sing

>>16771739
But she gets most of the money, unlike the 60% cut by youtube and hololive combined.

>>16771739
>I don't think IRyS has found her own voice or style yet

This, all we can do is give her feedback like she asked to us to do and support her until she finds her own style

>>16771901
Youtube subs don't give her any money.
>>16771946
I haven't dared to give her honest feedback like that yet.

>>16771817
It's not baseless. Mori and Kiara talked about Project Hope before. Moona also talked about how OGs work. Any song in the main Holo Channel are directly funded by Cover. I'm not saying they are taking all of Irys's SC money and using it on her EP. I'm just saying that her Cover's cut is probably going to her music unlike the popular idea that HoloEN money is going to her wholesale in making her music. She was very clear in her Skyrim SC reading that the money she gets from SCs and everywhere does indeed directs what her future projects are going to be. The only thing crucial thing here is that Cover has full control of that unlike other Holos.

>>16772069
It's dumb feedback
Neither of them write their own songs and Irys is a better singer than Suisei
You can't "find your style" when you aren't even writing your own fucking songs

>>16771176
I mean a different topic in the sense of expectations on profits and that crap, if cover feels like her music isn't doing "good enough" maybe they will cut the production of future songs(maybe just 6 per year instead of 12) but who knows.

>>16772113
You are taking very small nuggets of truth and then making large, baseless assumptions to fit it all together

>>16772193
Welcome to /hirys/

>>16772138
Writing your own lyrics has nothing to do with it.

>>16772330
I didn't say lyrics I said songs. The entire song is created by someone else and all they do is sing

>>16772330
Are you fucking retarded?

>>16772417
They're not, it is you who is retarded. Finding your style doesn't literally mean you need to find said style yourself it could very well be handed to you on a silver platter. It's about finding what sound, style, texture, etc works best for her. It's about finding what it means for a song to come from the heart and soul of IRyS.

>>16772748
>Finding your style doesn't literally mean you need to find said style yourself it could very well be handed to you on a silver platter.
ok, this is the most retarded thing ive read all thread

Why is it everyone who is a fan of IRyS has a /mu/ level understanding of nusic

>>16772870
Hololive or anime fans in general have a very poor understanding of music because all they listen to are anime and video game soundtracks

>>16772870
They are also all doctors, psychologist and talented artist

>>16772850
I don't know anon, there's a lot of contenders.

>>16772870
>>16772922
sasuga IRyStocrats

>>16771739
IRyS has mentioned how things go in the studio and has said that they give her direction on how to sing. How do you find your own style when they tell you "try like this instead"

>>16773482
>How do you find your own style when they tell you "try like this instead"
hard work and guts

for some reason this already is live for anons on the other side of the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaMM_1lmFVE
I feel IRyS could do great in folk songs.

>>16773804
it's a leak anon
but it's a good song, shame they've delayed it for as long as they have

I'm really curious for her posible February song, IRyS told us she liked it a lot

>>16767833
It used to be nice...

>>16773898
it usually is, this is the worst thread we've had in a long time
i'm sure we'll be back to normal soon enough

>>16773941
Yeah this is worse than it ever got during the break periods in December

>>16773482
Voice direction is a very normal thing in a professional recording studio, even for people who write their own music. Having someone there advising you on how to best bring out your voice in the song is in no way a hindrance to finding your own style.

>>16774339
Irys has no way to "find her own style". Infact she has found her own style, she is a good singer, but she has no control over the music she sings

>>16773941
>>16774192
I think you are all exaggerating, it's on the same level of bad as previous bad threads, this time around revolving around the pink woman shitshow.
Then it time looped to music discussion.

>>16774192
CutestRyS <3
Look at her :D

>>16774450
She's good but she has a lot of room to improve. There's not much continuation between her singing pre-IRyS to her current singing so it's basically something brand new for her.

How the fuck did we reach the bump limit with 40 posters, what happend?

>>16774826
That doesn't mean anything
The quality of her music is in no way affected by her voice, she's not doing anything wrong and improvement is not going to make them better. The songs just aren't good enough. Putting any of the responsbility for the lack of success of her music project on her is pretty insulting

>>16774885
>what happend?

lack of IRyS

>>16774885
a hundred posts of reaper doomposting and another two hundred of dumbrys music arguments

>>16774885
Bored IRyStocrats entertaining deadbeats.

>>16774895
How the fuck would improvement not make her songs better?

>>16775093
What I'm trying to say is the problem is the songs, not her singing, its absolutely ridiculous to lay the blame on her

ARE YOU HAVING FUN ON /HiRyS/ ANON?

>>16775093
Most Holos are absolute shit singers and their songs do fine

>>16775187
NO

>>16771739
>>16771859
>>16771946
>>16772069
>>16773482

This is the thing with IRyS. She is a great technical singer but lacks a unique voice or the singer-songwriter type soul that a lot of popular singers have. Like it or not Calli is extremely successful because she has that (your personal feelings over her music aside).

Her ability to be accept anything and enjoy it, something that I love about her, also hurts her. It hinders her from recognizing shallow lyrics (Sparks of Joy) or express a strong desire for her own preferences. She's just so mild-mannered.

As for getting direction in the studio, that's totally normal. You can still develop your own style through that. The problem is we don't know if IRyS herself knows what her own style or voice is. She just sings. It's hard to give feedback because there's just so many people singing praises and any real constructive criticism will be buried.

>>16775187
Yes.

>>16775282
Once again you're being completely fucking retarded and blaming her for something the songwriters did

>>16775204
I wasn't really thinking about numerical success, just how her singing could improve.
>>16775282
Plenty of pop songs have shallow lyrics and do fine.

>>16775282
She didn't write the songs and based on the lyrics for CoD and Journey almost all of her music is lore focused. Hard to protest lyrics when they have a very specific direction for her music.

>>16775282
literally all of irys's problems in musical success are marketing anon, good music does not sell itself. as much as i hate journeyschizo, he's right in that she doesn't promote her music like other talents do, and neither does cover/omega.

>>16775478
>good music does not sell itself
If you have a platform it does
If Irys's music was good it would be getting good views, that applies to pretty much every Hololive song
The good songs get a lot of views and the shit ones dont

Every day i wish a little bit more that she was just a regular Holo...

>>16775559
Here Comes Hope is one of the better HoloEN originals, explain that then

>>16775559
The songs that do well have some kind of appeal over the others. Usually it has nothing to do with song quality though.

>>16775612
But, she is a comedian...

>>16775559
retardchama, if you have a large platform that you don't use then you might as well not have a platform. someone with a million subscribers who drops an album and doesn't tell anyone will not do well because people do not know it exists. marketing is a major component of any media endeavor. no one on irys's team uses her platform for pushing music so she might as well not have one.

>>16775633
It's not as good as you think it is

>>16766941
Mori is stronger against people directly attacking her than people attacking her friends
the SC she got put her in a bind because it put a friend she trust not to have meant anything bad (cdawg) against her hololive friends
she just skip over usual anti messages but shit that attacks people she likes or makes her choose between them is an awful weak spot for her

>>16775559
>The good songs get a lot of views and the shit ones dont

yeah dance monkey is a masterpiece aswell as astronaut in the ocean, this argument is actually retarded

>>16775677
Mumei just released a song with about as much promotion as Irys's has and it's getting a lot of views. Do you know why? It's a really catchy song, it's good
Irys's ones aren't as good

>>16775698
shut the fuck up nigger, don't reply to 3 hour old shitposts

ByeRyS!
See you next thread, this one is full of faggots

>>16775728
You know what argument is even more retarded? That quality is purely subjective and the only diference is marketing. If you think this you're just musically illterate

>>16775735
mooms released her song with an mv, had two after parties, and had hyped it up for months leading up to its release
please stop embarrassing yourself anon

>>16775361
I'm a different anon but we're not trying to assign blame to anyone. I give IRyS a lot of credit for basically learning these songs in one day. Still, she needs to do better if she wants more success and I think the criticism about not having her own style is valid. I know what an Ado song sounds like. I know what a DD/Mori song sounds like. I don't really know what an IRyS song sounds like.

>>16775735
>popular = good
You're even reading what you're posting?

>>16775777
Holy shit you are actually a retarded nigger lmao

>>16775779
Well MVs help I guess, but the one on Mumei's isn't going to sell anyone
And no she didn't hype it up for months

>>16775735
Journey aside from a couple songs is as good or better than Mumeis song

>>16775823
anon just watch streams and you'll know this shit

>>16775790
Irys doesn't write her songs so no, SHE doesn't need to do better, her songwriters do
Are you stupid?

>>16775891
I'm talking about her performance as a vocalist.

>Deadbeats are fucking tired of everyone calling them cucks and come here to be annoying
>for some fucking reason you all respond to bait
God please stop, i'm fucking tired of reading about Mori EVERY. SINGLE. THREAD.

>>16774512
it also kinda looks worse cause i dont see as much ritual love IRyS posts but yea its definitely about the same
>>16774944
here i thought i missed a guerilla again

anyways love this cute dork

>>16775919
Her performance is absolutely fine, better or as good as any of the other Hololive members. The songs are the problem

>>16775947
> you all respond to bait
It's /HIRyS/ tradition.

>>16775773
You keep saying the same thing, go take a break already.

>>16776005
Sure it's "fine". I just think she can do much better.

>>16776025
I'm all for tradition, would IRyS qualify as a trad wife?

>>16776025
Anons have been getting better and at not replying to the usual "ugly model" bait, people will improve in time, have hope

>>16776125
And you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. She's GIVEN songs to sing and she sings them perfectly. These songs wouldn't be any better if she "improved". It's insulting to say "you just need to try harder" when the problem is the material you're working with. You say you don't hear any soul, well I could agree wiith that, but she can't fucking do anything about it because she doesn't have any creative input

>>16776129
more like tard wife haha gottem

I love IRyS and will always love her no matter what~ <3

>>16776240
Kek.

>380 posts
>45 posters
>40 images
>40 FUCKING IMAGES
Posts IRyS you fucking faggots

HIRyS, I love IRyS!

>>16775361

You're mistaking me for another anon. But yes she doesn't write the song but she can give feedback about it. But as you can see, she loves Sparks of Joy and isn't confident writing her own lyrics. Singers don't only sing whatever a songwriter puts together. It's a collaborative process between everyone involved. I'm not blaming her, I'm just pointing out the problem with the situation and hope it will improve.

>>16775396
They do well because there is a much bigger non-hololive audience. And there's the question of what you mean by fine. Numbers wise? Yes. Quality? No. This album reached top 6 iTunes for a day. By that measure IRyS has already outdone most VTubers already.

>>16775419
Yes and I would hope that feedback about the album will reach more than just IRyS.

>>16775478
She absolutely should promote her own music more but Journey is a 3.5/5 at best. Its a decent album but there are no smash hit songs on level of Ahoy!, Mogu Mogu, or Moona's original song. Great music attracts people outside of the fanbase within a single listen. The people buying Journey are regular viewers who've heard it countless times on her ending screen. And yes, this is a concept album all about her lore so it will be different. Once again, not blaming anyone. Only pointing out a problem.

>>16776238
Give the same songs to Gura and they will have one million views in less than a week, IRyS is simply not that popular, at least the songs are selling

>>16776305
How much IRyS fanart worth sharing is there anyway?

>>16775978
Yeah I just assumed the walls of mucho texto were all about Mori's shit spilling over here. It's not the absolute worst it's been but there's a lot of it.

>>16776375
>Give the same songs to Gura and they will have one million views in less than a week
Well yeah that's cause it's Gura, but Gura couldn't actually sing these songs

>>16776373
>Singers don't only sing whatever a songwriter puts together. It's a collaborative process between everyone involved
Sometimes they do, and in this particular case, Irys is literally just told what to sing and has no creative input

>>16776240

>>16776238
>perfectly
Look I love her but everyone has room to improve. I think she's often lacking during a song's climax, for example.

>>16776492
Why is she so perfect?

>>16776382
enough to stop this madness

>>16776515
Yeah, she would improve as a singer if she stopped trying to sing perfectly and put more raw human emotion into it
But it's pretty fucking hard to do that when you're just given stuff to sing that's already been written by someone else

>>16776382
heres a good one

Perfect.

>>16776765
Enjoy your vacation, madlad.

>>16776748
She's trying to pet you

Irys straight up eyeballing michaels dad bod was the stream highlight besides finally using the minimap maybe

>>16776765
Thx

>>16776731
Alright I think we agree then. I believe she can do it and become even better.

>>16776882
No, not really, you're ignoring the real problem which is the songs aren't fucking good enough and saying Irys should just try harder. Like I said, it's insulting. She's a far better singer than most people in Hololive, if she had better songs she'd be doing great

>>16776833
Plus that degenerate laugh at the sight of a naked man advertisement.
She sure has that otaku laugh.

>>16776945
You already agreed with me that she could do better. I don't see how different songs would magically change that.

>>16776882
>>16776945
>Anons reach the end of an argument
>Insist on continuing to fight for literally no reason
Such is life on vt

>>16776765
Nisu

Will we get more songs in a Myth & Roid style? It's clear that their style fits Irys way better

>>16777112
Are you also musically illterate? Irys is a great singer. She could be better sure, but so can anyone. She is being given mediocre songs to sing. It's 90% on the songwriters and 10% on her

>>16777142
Wasn't journey almost entirely produced by M&R?

>>16777237

>>16764550
Irys just hates whores. She’ll try to kill Michael’s wife whenever she finally gets the chance

>>16777317
>hates whores
>marries bae
Anon..