/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16759468
Wait, that isn't even that negative?

>>16759468
Because Mori does not care about Hololive at ALL.

She doesn't care that she even would straight up lie about her genmates and throw them under the bus.

>>16759548

I can smell the clipniggerism all the way over here.

>>16759468
I thought the superchat was more hostile

>>16759468
Holy based

>>16759636
well now you know

>>16759636
There's a reason it got to her, and that's because she believes what the SC says is true.
It's exactly like that time with the Cuphead Collab with Gura and one of her members called her out on her bullshit when she went into the shadowverse collab and was completely 'prepared'.

Please post
Legendary
$250 Red SC

>>16759468
Post the condom superchat

>>16759468
Which stream wad this?

>>16759636
you probably think the reaction was more hostile too

>>16759468
I thought it was this one.

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1484144239197917188
she takes no hostages

>>16759571
Not that anon but it's true. Mori said Connor apologized personally to her genmates but Kiara admitted she never spoke to Connor before

>>16759836
Glorious

>>16759865
Kiara could be lying

If you’re gonna post what made them mad at least also post the clip of it.

>>16759843
totally mssing th epoint of the drama too
it wasnt that she is friends with a male
it's that she is friends with a holo anti, thats the issue im getting from the spacha

>>16759836
I can't even pay my bill and there's anons out there just throwing away hundreds of dollars to send ESL shitposts like this

>>16759843
I'd rather she suck a fellow vchuuba's dick rather than a goddamn anituber.

>>16759836
>>16759468
So what was her reaction or did she even acknowledge it?

>>16759917
then why didnt you?

>>16759912
True but Connor is a scumbag in every sense of the word who obviously doesn't give a shit and Mori has already lied about stuff before during streams that she even got called out for

>>16759865
neither of these things happened, little esl

>>16759984
I didn’t post any screenshots anon

>>16760017
im asking why didnt you post the clip of it?

>>16759973
her reaction was she already looked up the sauce herself when it happened (months ago), and realized the only people who would see him as an anti were clipniggers milking shit for drama
Which she and her coworkers hate a lot more than some dude getting clipped
>>16759865
yeah neither of those things happened but you don't know that because you watch streamable instead of streams

>>16760002
Here's the clip cuckbeat

https://streamable.com/5a8uq2

>>16760066
Idk what the clip is that’s my point.

>>16760074
you mean the part where he says he apologized to every EN, to her, and then kiara says she has no contact with trash taste about a collab?

yea, keep doing your english reps, you'll get there someday

>>16760074
that's the amazing thing about taking a clip of Mori describing what happened months ago, and then another clip of Kiara describing what's going to happen next month
They don't line up with each other because they're not talking about the same thing

>>16760074
Based. Someone should translate this to japanese and give context too so her japanese fans would know

but Hololivers do not have talent? What is there to apologize about?

>>16760146
While you're enjoying all the spoonfeeds, keep in mind that everyone who saw the streams is laughing their asses off at anybody who thinks any of this is an issue.
You'd have an easier time convincing the Japanese that Ina hates her fans

>>16759633
people who cope with the "it was out of context he didnt really mean it" excuse are retarded
even with context what he said was throwing shade at hololive. you dont come up with such a random comparison just because.
hololive is clearly living rent free in this nigger's head and he seethes that he can't leech off of them freely

>>16760074
What is Kiara is saying did someone ask her to collab with trash taste or something?

>>16759973
Mori saw and reacted to >>16759973
and basically said "Yes, thank you for the money, it's all going to Connor"
Don't have a timestamp but someone else did

>>16759924
can you refund superchats?

For me it's risking brand image defending outsider.
It's unprofessional
I don't care how they individually do but if they remotely affect others it's crossing the line

>>16760207
it doesnt matter what was said in a stream if something else is kept in memory moreso

>>16760289
>"Yes, thank you for the money, it's all going to Connor"

The absolute shanty town of deadbeats

>>16759548
She actively hates Hololive and thinks she's better than the other girls. She puts in less effort than any of them and skates by.

>>16760354
You can basically get a refund for anything if you do it through your credit card. Don't know about doing it through Youtube, I doubt it.

>>16760256
She asked her viewers how they'd feel about her collabing with males in the future.
That prompted KFP to list off a bunch of males they could think of, like Holostars and (as you saw there) Trash Taste, which confused Kiara because why the fuck would she collab with them, she hasn't heard from them since that time Connor apologized for a clip she didn't watch

>>16760373
>brand image of hololive
are you retarded

>>16760373
Yeah, because throwing your sponsorship affiliate under the bus over rrats on a Mongolian basketweaving forum is the epitome of professionalism
I love it when the JPs do that

>>16760405
They're not called cuckbeats for nothing

>>16760409
>less effort than any of them
Ayame exists you know?

>>16760409
I'm sorry your oshi hasn't streamed much lately but I'm sure she'll feel better when the weather gets a little warmer
Then you won't have to spend all your time watching chuubas you hate

>>16760421
>ask if the fans are alright with collabing with males
>does a vshojo collab on her own asking no one
Imagine asking permission from fans to collab with people in your own company but then collabing with bitches you know people are gonna have a problem with.

>>16759843
>people are mad at me for being close friends with a Holo anti and telling my fans that they aren't "entitled" to even dislike him
>I know, I'll tweet at some male who lives in Bongland that will show them
Both missing the point and intending to piss your fans off, well the ones that aren't sycophantic cucks anyway, good job.

>>16760420
feels bad, the jokes on him not mori

>>16759973
She made a 'new rule' like dua lipa lols

>>16759792
It was members afaik

>>16760421
>she hasn't heard from them since that time Connor apologized for a clip she didn't watch
this didn't happen, she explicitly said she was "not in contact" with them. the brapper is a liar and a thot.

> A guy says that the hololive brand is so strong that it can make a talentless streamer successful
> /vt/ interprets this as he's saying their oshi is talentless

Sounds more like you guys think that your oshi is a talentless hack, rather than him actually saying that.

>>16760564
a lot of the KFPs who were mad about the vshojo collab were mad because it was just dropped on us with a "if you don't like don't watch". she'll probably never do that again, given the blowback. She lost long time members over that.

>>16760693
she's unironically dumb

>>16759873
NO I WON'T GIVE IN I WON'T GIVE IN UNTIL I'M VICTORIOUS

>>16760785
What Kiara is talking about is unrelated to the apology Mori is talking about

>>16760822
>> A guy says that the hololive brand is so strong that it can make a talentless streamer successful

nice mental gymnastics you got there fag

>>16760564
If I had to choose between a nyanners collab and a connor collab I'm obviously going to pick nyanners every time

>>16760901
How about someone just post the clip of him saying it so we're not arguing over who's quoting it properly

I have said it before. Connor should make a public apology. If you talk shit in front of an audience, then apologize in front of said audience.

Also, what damn asshole, showing up on Mori's stream, knowing how much flak she was going to recieve.

>>16760289
Holy shit I kneel

>moriope's stream is basically a receptacle for cannur's condom money at this point
>deadcucks continue to white knight her
this is what I come to this board for

>>16759468
Connor was right though, look at Mori. She is indeed talentless.

>>16760354
No. Saying "I hope you get a refund" is disingenous.

>>16760991
how dare you say that! she's practicing nigger Music and she's very good at videogames and shiet! as long as they take require memorizing less than four buttons anyway

>>16759529
You're here for too long, you've been desensitized by the lack of respect, manners, and decency in this board

>>16760822
Well he's clearly talking about at least one member of Hololive. Probably more than one. Is he talking about my Oshi? No, my Oshi doesn't fit the definition. But he's calling somebody a talentless hack - no problem. The issue is Mori is ALSO saying that at least one of her coworkers is a talentless hack. Not a problem if she feels that way, but as a great man once said, keep your stupid opinions in your pocket.

>>16760964
he said nothing controversial, in fact he said the truth, you just don't want to accept it.

>>16761052
It's literally not that negative though. He's just asking that Mori not associate with Connor and explained why.

>>16761097
Why did he apologized privately then? Checkmate.

>>16761052
That's pretty polite for $100

Reminder that this drama is 99% here

>>16760915
Connor isn’t in Hololive genius.

>>16760964
Connor contributes nothing but drama. It's all a shitty game to him

>>16761121
Mori lied about that, Kiara confirmed she hasn't spoken to them.

>>16761142
Its affecting her which is what matters

>>16760373
>muh brand image
This is not nijisanji sister

>>16761147
Neither is Nyanners? I don't understand what you're arguing about.

>>16761142
It is also on Mori's won streams and YouTube comments.

>>16760964
Wait did Connor say something new or is that about the “Hololive members get easy subs” which was absolutely true.

>>16761142
More like 90% here 10% on stream. She's brought it up too much for it to be all in our schizo heads.

>>16761157
In that case, Mori thinks it is controversial.

>>16761214
YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW HOW DARE YOU INSULT HOLOMYTH LIKE THAT

>>16761184
I said “in your own company” which is referring to Holostars why would I be talking about connor? I feel like what I said was pretty simple I’m not sure what you’re missing.

>>16761052
No, you've been oversensitized. Most people worship their vtubers and would never dare question their "authority", so even if someone brings up a legitimate grievance they'll be shouted down.

>But the people here are mean
Yes, people are gossipy and ratty. That doesn't mean you win by being always nice and hugboxy elsewhere.

>>16761052
it's perfectly polite and only the permanently anally irritated trannies feel otherwise. the reason mori is so upset is because it's true and she can't scapegoat it on anything

>>16761142
This magic spell doesn't work. Sorry.

>>16761113
On the surface, sure; but Calli is one of the more upfront and frank members of Hololive and Connor is in her circle of friends and they have 'collabed' together in the past and most likely again in the future.

This SC is more or less putting her on the spot and asking her to choose between a harmonious workplace/fanbase or her friends. I don't blame her for telling the lowkey ass to fuck off.

>>16761166
I'd believe that too if all my information about Mori came from /here/

>>16761305
>the reason mori is so upset is because it's true and she can't scapegoat it on anything
This. A blameless individual would not react the way she did, only the guilty who know they're in the wrong but are in denial.

>>16761317
Blame Connor, not everyone else for not wanting to keep it all under wraps.

>>16761142
lmao say that to mori "petty" calliope

>>16761279
I was more talking about
>bitches you know people are gonna have a problem with.
And Kiara has collabed with Nyanners which wasn't that bad in retrospect and she wants to collab with Pomu who is pretty universally liked

>>16761353
She acted erratic on the stream following the SC.

holobronies and idolfags truly are the saddest species on earth

>>16761097
if you believe suisei, pekora, aqua, marine, fubuki are talentless you are absolutely delusional

>>16761149
That's his plan, say provocative shit, make the fanbases sperg out, and then lure them back in with either a (non)apology video or double down video. Stop falling for his drama, bad enough we fall for female drama we don't need male drama on top of that.

>>16761413
Yeah because she's writing a dozen songs and playing a platformer that's too hard for your oshi for 40+ hours
It'd be weirder if she wasn't being erratic

>>16759843
I'm a Mori anti and don't like Mysta but I try to be fair; this really isn't an issue. The TT guys are scum, but communication with relevant male vtubers shouldn't be fuel for more hate towards her. This is fine.

>>16761407
Pomu is a whore.

>>16761451
No one's forcing her to make cringy larp-hop

>>16761290
Well then, I wonder how that guy feels now that he has become the root cause of these whole board seething?

He could've just not sent that and most people here would've one less issue they have to think about

There's also winning in wisdom by NOT doing something you know?

>>16761142
where else would it be? on the websites where you're silenced and removed for saying anything but happy and nice things?

>>16759730
>It's exactly like that time with the Cuphead Collab with Gura and one of her members called her out on her bullshit when she went into the shadowverse collab and was completely 'prepared'.
What?

>>16761484
and yet /vt/ keeps convincing themselves that she doesn't like it and she's about to graduate any day now

>>16761457
It is a falseflag narrative deadbeats have been pushing in the past days, nobody is mad at male vtuber collabs.

>>16761487
A woman made this post.

>>16761305
>>16761387
Perfect example of desensitized individual(s)

>>16761543
>nobody is mad at male vtuber collabs.

If some say that clips are edited so that it seems like Kiara is talking about Connor not apologizing when in fact she was talking about something else, why not just ask? It seems to be the simplest solution but no one still haven't sent Kiara a superchat asking a simple question, did Connor in fact apologize or not.

>>16761525
This take is at least 6 months old, come on now.

>>16761436
He already did his "apology vid", which is likely what Mousey had in mind but he just doubled down anyway moaning about context which is bullshit. There is no deeper context if you watched the streams that's just a flimsy excuse to try to cover his ass.

I don't follow Connor. When did he insult hololive?

>>16761525
Not true, copebeat. Nobody has said she does not like rap.

Damn! Deadbeat really went hard on defending connor and even dismissing holo's hard earned incline huh? What even connor ever did for (you) cucks to suck his dick this hard?

>>16761588
he didn't. He said they get free subs, and it made clipniggers seethe

>>16760564
>with people in your own company
Kiara hasn't shown a single ounce of interest in collab with homostars aside from mentioning Roberu's talk show at his bar while dodging all the homo beggars in the chat. And it definitely wasn't about the upcoming holotalk which is kept at such a professional level that they dropped the speed question portion.
It had to be some male e-celeb streamer like the German one she always brings up every time she plays a game that he's played.

>>16759468
>an anti
Cdawg is not a hololive anti. The blind fanboyism in this community has warped the expectations so much that everything other than pure worship is considered anti behaviour. The TT folk just has some critical takes mixed into an overall positive impression of hololive, but that isn't good enough for the simps.

>>16761570
Don't drag Kiara further into Mori's mess. Go ask Connor.

>>16761393
Calli talked it out with him and made her peace and buried it, it is quite obvious she is blaming anyone who digs it back up.

>>16761553
Perfect example of your typical leddit cuckoid for whom no ounce of criticism is allowed ever and who would prefer to ban and silence anything that isn't 100% positive.
gb2 your hugbox

>>16761618
>What even connor ever did for (you) cucks to suck his dick this hard?
made you this butthurt over absolutely nothing

>>16761317
>This SC is more or less putting her on the spot and asking her to choose between a harmonious workplace/fanbase or her friends
but cant she still be friends with those people in private and not associate her hololive persona to them?

>>16761157

>>16761495
Seethe about it more /pol/tard.

>>16761648
>>16761624
He did not say anything bad and yet he apologized. Curious.

>>16761690
>yeah he mumbled an apology to ME but he still thinks all my genmates, senpais and new kouhai are talentless hacks so it's all okay so I'm just gonna keep bringing him up in streams because I agree with him since I don't respect anyone in hololive at all

>>16759808
based cuckbeat

>>16761750
He apologized because shitters get mad over nothing. He doesn't want drama.

>>16761693
I'm just gonna borrow >>16761387 's words
A blameless individual would not react the way you did, you know you're guilty and you know you're in the wrong but you are in denial. Hence the namecallings.

>>16761097
I guess you're right. A talentless wigger like Mori would just be a failed soundcloud rapper if she didn't have an anime girl to hide behind.

>>16761815
With that logic he would have apologized publicly

>>16761570
Kiara wasn't talking about Connor. She was just talking about some celeb contacting her and said she wasn't in contact with the trash taste people
https://youtu.be/8Flzv4pZUak?t=18903
She was not aware that Mori had claimed he had contacted the holos personally to apologize, but it does still prove that it was a complete lie.

>>16761815
1. that makes him a spineless push over
2. he apologized in a way that does not shut up people and does not solve anything.

>>16761553

>>16761648
You have to go back

>>16761481
>he doesn’t know about Kiara in Japan

>>16761648
>critical takes
lmao what he and joey stated were not critical takes
they were tactless direct insults
mouse knew this when he was mouthing off trying to get him to stfu and change the subject because despite it all she has a modicum of professionalism

>>16761750
Right? Turns out that what Mori called him out on was not secretly hating her and all of her coworkers, because he doesn't, but that he wasn't being careful enough about what clipniggers could use as ammo.
So he apologized for his carelessness, to which she followed up by saying that she (and a fuckton of other holos in EN and JP) know what it's like to get an entire stream distilled into whatever seems like it'll make the most yabs.
>"I don't appreciate that kind of cancel culture bullshit"
Except /vt/ has now decided cancel culture is good, actually, as long as it's a girl they never liked to begin with.
>>16761892
This just in, it's now okay to think that Hololive has talentless hacks. No apology needed. Drama over, right?

>>16761214
It's still about that and the fallout from it.

>>16761570
Why would I waste money superchatting to Kiara?

>>16761927
Silence woman.

>>16761481
Whore she may be, but does she defend people that slag off and look down on her and her "friends" with tooth and nail?

>>16761895
I really don't know. Connor has said this shit long ago, what if he apologized long ago and she just didn't include it in her answer to avoid spiraling the discussion / because it wasn't recent? Mind you, I have no intentions to believe Mori, shit sounded like last moment lie to cover her ass. But it would still be great to have a solid confirmation that she's lying.

>>16761927
>Muhhh cancel culture.

>>16761965
I'm not even KFP, but her supacha readings are pretty epic.

>>16761895
>but it does still prove that it was a complete lie
How did it prove anything? Have you ever thought maybe Kiara didn't want to bring that up during a casual superchat reading session?

>>16761927
>So he apologized for his carelessness
Really? Where?
Says who?

>>16762045
Mori.

>>16759973

>>16761927
holy shit the amount of deflecting

>>16762004
nah dude. If I know one thing about Kiara it's that she looves talking about random 3D men apologizing for clips she never watched that weren't about her
It's moments like those that make her supacha readings so legendary
>>16762045
OP's superchat is photoshopped. Prove me wrong.

>>16761927
It's either apologize publicly to end drama or completely ignore others to keep his stance but nothing like apologize privately
Was it not clear enough for you to understand?

>>16761976
>>16762013
Muh free hate speech

>>16761618
>holo's hard earned incline
You mean by leaching?
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37064979
https://imgur.com/a/Ndgdyfo
https://imgur.com/a/HGTs4YM
Also if I recall the only reason people even watched Sora was because Siro had internet issues that day. The real incline strategy is to leech until you’ve sucked out most of it then stop leeching when people call it out.

>>16761927
No-one is fucking organizing mass email campaigns or social media campaigns fir sponsors of Hololive or advertisers on Youtube saying "are you aware your product appeared next to <person>, does your company stand for <social issue>, as a <protected class> I will no longer support <company>" in an effort to get Connor or Mori removed from social media. What the fuck are you talking about with "cancel culture" being here bullshit?

>>16762098
This

>>16761645
>Kiara hasn't shown a single ounce of interest in collab with homostars
Then why ask the fucking question? Then she didn’t have to say anything about males. If it’s not Holostars she’s referring to then who is it? No one forced her to ask that question.

>>16762066
I can't not read it in her voice, 99% sure she actually wrote this

>>16761693
And that's exactly why the talents are on Reddit and yet not a single one wants to be associated with this shithole full of anonymous roleplayers

>>16762105
imagine trying to extinguish the natural and essential human emotion of hate

>>16762098
Why would he apologize publicly over drama that's not public?
Try mentioning anything about this outside of /vt/, I dare you. The only consequences from any of this is the board turned pink, and even that has more to do with Omegatranny tweeting than anything Mori could have come up with.

That's why /vt/ keeps taking credit for the two collab events, 12 songs, and JP series Mori's putting together simultaneously and pretending none of that exists and she's just /here/ instead
Which they're just going to say she's lying about too, and they'll keep saying that even when the album comes out.

>>16762156
Nigger just read the whole post

>>16760822
He's right too, looking at Council.

>>16762156
Do you know that Hololive girls do, in fact, sometimes collab with males. Literal, IRL men? Zun, Sugita, even some famous comedian?
Males don't always mean male chuubas, you know?

>>16762210
the only reason for that is the word nigger and demonetization that comes with it. they don't care if you hate them or love them as long as you keep sending those akas

>>16762263
Sorry mate, I just saw the word "homostars" and my head got all fuzzy.

>>16761693
Deadcucks have been reporting left a nd right. And mods have been listening to them
> Noooo, timeloop, stop timelooping.

>>16762282
it's not about males, Anon.
It's about ethics in VTuber journalism.

>>16762210
Um, yes? Your point?

>>16760564
Anon people won't care about 2D Vshojo no matter how degen you think they are, but they'll definitely get mad over a male or an anituber.

>>16762345
hugbox > hatebox

>>16761052
nigga that's $100, I've had people say much worse for much less to me

So many tourists are going to flood the board over this. They'll get hooked on the negativity that's too scary to post on Reddit and then never leave.
You'll all have to timeloop with them for the rest of the year...

>>16762066
Lemme try linking the post
>>16706622

>>16762282
>Literal, IRL men?
So like trash taste who she just said she didn’t want to collab with?

>>16762455
Good, better that than you yes-men who kept telling Ame she was doing great and shouldn't listen to any criticism, that was from "haters", as her content went down the drain in early 2021. It took her like 6 months to get back to being worth watching again because of (you), and that's the actual timeloop we're in again.

>>16762455
I don't care. I like timeloops

>>16762452
Agreed, that's what this place does best to people. More proof of desensitized individuals.

>>16762455
same as usual, then

>Connor apologizes to ever EN member
>Kiara: I haven't talk to anyone of them TT guys
>SC: I dont want to watch you stream with Stars - Kiara: It's okay and you should not be bullied because of that

I KNEEL, Kiara

now Connor really need to apologize to every EN members kek

>>16762455
Hate is such an addiction, no wonder this board can't stop hating

>>16762282
So which one's good to collab with, male celebs or male chuubas? ENfags seem to think the latter and JPfags the former, what's up with that

>>16761809
Why would the assumption be that he still thinks that? I can't imagine he wouldn't change his mind after befriending a hololive member

>>16762455
negativity isn't what 4chan is for?
you won't see that in other places and it's what people coming 4chan for, not only /vt/

>>16762115
>leeching
everyone is doing it
its youtube thats how it works
if people wanna watch who are you to tell them they shoudlnt
if nijisanji fans saw hololive's stream and stayed that means holo was more entertaining or interesting than nijisanji and deserved it

>>16761815
>Connor, the Cdawg
>Doesn't want drama

this is getting out of control because Mori doubled-down, saying that no refunds now and she'll donate the money instead to the person taking the heat kek

how thin can someone be? Just ignore the bait and move on

>>16762621
>>SC: I dont want to watch you stream with Stars - Kiara: It's okay and you should not be bullied because of that
Did she really? That's nice.

>>16762543
>>16762586
>>16762672
Yes, but with each new batch the board gets a little bit closer to Reddit.
Look how much harder it's getting to BTFO the people full-throatedly advocating for a hugbox - even the antis here are mad at Mori for not being nice and friendly enough to her antis
By 2023 there won't even be antis, just layer after layer of falseflaggers and bootlickers

>>16762628
Male celebs, emphasis on CELEBS, are fine. Please stop pretending anitubers are on the same level as Zun, Sugita, etc.

>>16759912
What benefit would Kiara get from lying in this case?

>>16762708
/vt/ turned upside down overnight, now Mori is the most hated, and we kneel to Kiara

>>16759912
Kiara didn't even realize there was anything to lie about when she said it.

>>16762708
https://streamable.com/acb91i

>>16762704
>saying that no refunds now
Which she isn't in control of anyway because it's easy as fuck to just take your money back, literally just contact your bank and tell them someone took your card or make a fraudulent purchase in your name. You'll have to go get a new one from the bank but if you're determined to get a refund there's literally nothing she can do to stop you.

>>16762455
it's actually kinda annoying - it's infecting once chill threads already

You can really tell who the newfags are because they are the ones who throw around terms like Unicorn.

People were fine when Marine and Fubuki met ZUN.

People were fine when Sugita went on Marine and Fubuki's radio show.

People were okay with Mori holding her remix contest with K's san because he's an actual producer.

The reason people sperg about the Trash Taste guys or even Koefficient when Coco first featured him is because they are literally bottom of the barrel faggots. They do reaction videos to content that other people have created. Not to mention Connor himself is a fucking scumbag who has openly disparaged Hololive and is a fucking groomer.

>>16762777
>>16762800
Can't believe I used to dislike Kiara, though it was mostly about how hard she was pushing her ship, and had Mori as my oshi (which I no longer do). Maybe i had it fucked up all along.

>>16762282
I love posts like this because they show how many anons don't even watch the clips attached to the threads they read.
She very explicitly said that the male "collab" was a sponsored thing.

>>16762087
> If I know one thing about Kiara it's that she looves talking about random 3D men apologizing for clips she never watched that weren't about her
So you agree that the apology obviously didn’t happen

>>16762452
>the mutt thinks strapping a roll of money to something can make it less insulting
get help

>>16762918
it doesn't make it less insulting, I just care less because I'm taking money from someone else to not give a shit about their opinion

>>16762828
Good. /vt/weeters fucked around, and now they're finding out.
>>16762908
It's adorable how you keep trying to tell me what happened in a stream you didn't watch and I did, as if I'm eventually going to forget if you word it just right

>>16761191
Didn't learn your lesson it seems

>>16760242
Ironic. He seems to be living rent free in your head. Just ignore him if you don't like him like a sane person would.

>>16762621
why would he apologize for saying the truth?

>>16760564
Nyanners is a high-functioning autistic weeb girl living her anime girl dream which is pretty based. The only reason people get angry about her here is because they were insulted by a tumblr post 5 years ago or some shit.
Vei is a cunt though lol

>>16761711
>but cant she still be friends with those people in private and not associate her hololive persona to them?

We're talking about Calli here, probably 95% of the rest of Hololive would be on the same page as you but Calli has shown she don't play by those 'rules'. That is why we're in the middle of all this seething.

>>16761935
The only fallout from it is on this board. I honestly wish this place would just shut the fuck up about Connor, it's annoying.

>>16761052
He just said his opinion and asked politely to not associate with a bastard like Connor, even Mouse called him out multiple times for his takes about Hololive. Mori is just that stubborn and blind

>>16762970
I watched that whole stream like I watch every Kiara stream. She was talking about the guesses people were making and said “oh, no, not trash taste, I’m not in contact with trash taste”. She does not know them, they do not have any way to contact her, conner did not apologize to “all EN”, mori lied

>>16759808
considering shes still reacting yeah

>>16762115
>https://imgur.com/a/HGTs4YM
Oof that's fucking scummy. But most likely the managers' doing

>>16762156
Someone post THAT image of Kee**h**m* and the nigger

>>16762156
I love posts like this because they show how many anons don't even watch the clips attached to the threads they read.
She very explicitly said that the male "collab" was a sponsored thing

>>16763098
its crazy that mouse isnt even a part of hololive and knew what he was saying was retarded but mori somehow thinks its fine

>>16761809
And if that is the case, so what?

>>16762836
>Sugita on MariFubu Radio
That one doesn't count, Sugita is a man among men and deserves a collab with Hag and Friend.

>>16763122
the man in that picture is gayer than the homostars

>>16759636
There was also an akasupa from a different user in a later stream that read, "Conner's condom fund."
I only even know about this drama because I happened to tune into Mori during that very stream. It was one of the most depressing streams I've ever watched, and I bailed before Mumei even showed up.

>>16763207
They always are...

>>16762836
Exactly, it's about the male in question

>>16763181
That's exactly my point retard, people aren't against male collabs they are against scumbag groomer reactionfag collabs.

>>16763016
>why would he apologize for saying the truth?

that's not the point dumbass, point is Mori lied that Connor apologizes to every EN member, which is sus to start with

>>16762628
The problem is not them being male celebs, the problem is that there are people who keeps their mouth shouted and won't be creating drama, JP celebrities aren't prone to that, if anything they will criticize you from behind and privately, but this will have 0 relevance, western celebs can't have their mouth shutted and are always spiting their moralism to everyone.

>>16763336
This is dumb, Connor has done very few reaction streams and the groomer shit is just making things up

>>16763411
Trash Taste is literally a glorified reaction show. The groomer shit is self evident from his interactions with Ollie and his history.

>>16763360
Exactly. Why would he apologize to each EN member privately for something he said publicly, especially when he never named anyone specifically so a general "I fucked up tweet" would have been fine

>>16763162
Especially considering Mouse could've just let it slide considering she's in a competing entertainment company

I wonder if /vt/ would be so angry if it was some other male with which Mori would hang out, not Connor. I dunno, do you know any based and interesting guys?

>>16762115
If this was like 5 years or so ago, it would definitelly be managers, but these days Youtube sets Tags automatically, and it makes a lot of sense that similar content is getting similar tags from a stochastic standpoint (which is basically what the algorithm or all machine learning is based on).

There's still the option to set tags manually obviously, but you need some additional clicks for that (which makes it really annoying), so it could also be managers doing it.

Honestly at this stage I'm questioning why Mori's just not graduating. It's obvious that she's not enjoying Hololive's way of doing things and trying to do her own stuff while being Hololive member is hurting rest of the girls. I have no problem with her throwing money at Connor (tho I really hate guts of this dude), but using official Hololive account with their brand attached to it create very poor optics.

>>16763122
Why are deadcucks so angry at Kiara?

>>16763162
Mouse is a fan of Hololive and has been a vtuber for longer than even Sora, which makes her one of the most veteran ones. She knows what it takes to be where they are, that's why.

>>16763508
>do you know any based and interesting guys
Yeah, me

>>16763454
This reasoning is such a reach it's actually hilarious

>>16763113
nigger she told a guy happy birthday
if that's what you call hostile you're a better man than me

>>16763508
literally anyone that is not a part of trash taste

>>16763508
literally no. i only watch 3D male youtubers for stuff like auto repair tutorials. fuck e-celebrities and fuck zoomers

>>16763471
are you really that dumb, fag? forget everything about Connor apologizing to EN or not, empty your dense brain. Now, the topic in question is Mori saying that Connor apologizes to every EN member. THAT IS THE PROBLEM, why would she say that? So her audience can go 180 and side with Connor

>>16763570
They can't admit their oshi is wrong so they need to project their guilt and anger onto someone else.

>>16763568
Later after she get her 3D maybe?

>>16763570
Kiara's fine, she fixed the one problem we had with her months ago

>>16763122
What exactly does a picture of a cosplayer posing with a fan have to do with this thread?

>>16763568
She is not hurting the other girls. Only herself. Maybe Kiara a bit, deadcucks are starting to resent her.

>>16763635
I have no idea what you're trying to say here

>>16763570
They aren't, it's just shitposters trying to start shit with anyone and everyone.

>>16763568
>Honestly at this stage I'm questioning why Mori's just not graduating.
Money and fame

>>16763715
“mori lied to get deadbeats without critical thinking skills to support her boyfriend against the evil trolls who are quoting him”

>>16763568
I'd imagine once management and Cover start putting limiters on her like they did with Coco then graduating might be more in the picture for her as an option.

>>16763612
dont pretend to be an idiot you know why shes doing it and its not with good intentions

Imagine spending hundreds of dollars to insult someone
/vt/ is truly cucked

>>16763568
Uhhh maybe cause she's making more in a stream then she used to make in a year?

>>16763568
These are the delusions that browsing /vt/ daily causes, huh?

>>16763647
3D will not save her from being shitted on by community every time she did something like that? As long as she stays Hololive member she's threatening both herself and other girls with more bullcrap. Also what her for 3D model if she will be obviously forced to abandon her persona?

>>16763568
because this is overblown? People outside of here do not give a fuck. No one likes 4chan anyways. You fags are screaming at nothing

>>16762645
Honestly, the way he talks about Vtubers I think he compartmentalizes pretty hard here. Mori is better than your avergae chuuba because she grinds 20h a day doing her shit rap songs and Ironmouse is great because she has space AIDS and still streams. But the average, normal Hololive member is just a talentless simp exploiting whore.

>>16763857
I believe he's saying that Mori is waiting to get 3D for max profit stream, then dropping out after collecting the money.

>>16763098
Still a shit thing to write on an akasupa.

Though I agree that Mori could've handled it better, she should learn a thing or two from Botan about responding to something like that.

>>16763797
yes, because Mori has never tweeted at men until now

>>16762156
shill stream with some e-celeb probably
she just wants to make sure unicorn schizos don't go at her without a heads up

>>16763945
By that standard he should think the rest of VShojo are talentless simp-exploiting whores, and there's no way ironmouse would tolerate that opinion

>>16763568
She's in Hololive for two things
>putting enough eyes on roommate to be a popular rapper
>Japanese visa(can't get permanent residency until late 2026)
Until she firmly secures both, she won't quit Hololive, same as with her previous job of "scythe swinging lessons".

>>16763945
this is what deadbeats have become

>>16763762
"I'm gonna put my own viewpoint on a pedestal while putting down anyone who opposes my opinion as lacking critical thinking skills. Now, I never have to respond meaningfully to anything I don't agree with!"
There's a more accurate translation for you.

>>16764040
She didn't, she told him to shut up and talk about something else.

>>16764040
Yes, true if anything Vshojo is generally way worse with that thing than Hololive but he probably thinks because they act less like fake and more like actual twitch thots that it's not as bad, because they don't deceive the viewers by also presenting themselves as whores.

Never forget that the guy is actual friends with a real porn star.

>>16763162
Mouse isn't blinded by being a fucking retard like Connor is. Connor was born on 3rd base. If he had a shittier voice and an uglier face he'd be languishing in obscurity like 99.9% of anitubers or streamers, yet he's talking shit on people who grinded for years and made it through a pretty competitive interview process for being successful.

>>16764145
No, I mean if he held that opinion about the VShojo girls ironmouse wouldn't remain his friend

>>16763985
She will mellow down after 3d debut.

>>16764165
>Mouse isn't blinded by being a fucking retard like Connor is
And even she, just like Mori (just like Kiara), agreed that in the end the clippers were more at fault than Connor was.

>>16762226
No one told you to stop hating
At the same time, not all that hate should be posted online either

>>16764120
lol mad

>>16764327
What part of that came across as mad? Are you feeling okay, anon?

>>16764165
Thats what pissed me off the most, the fact that he ignored the entire audition process and what they had to do to get the streaming experience and skill to make it into hololive and attributed their success to brand recognition

>>16764250
desu they weren't
what does connor even know about getting a job in the first place

>>16764327
You just proved their point...

>>16764384
He knows plenty about grooming though.

>>16764325
i kind of prefer to do the opposite: dump it here so none is left inside. feels good, too!

>>16764403
I’m not arguing with him, he was having trouble parsing someone else’s post. I clarified it for him and he threw a hissy fit.

>>16763816
Imagine not understanding how social relationships work. Connor knows Cali IRL, we all know that, and that she is going to defend her IRL friend regardless, coz the company couldn't care less.

Conner is just very insecure and tries to bring down people who are less "talented" than himself.

Tbh at this time Cali already fuked him, coz he is white and British, even if she is a lesbo, she would still go for a white male with an attitude!

>>16764356
To be fair. Holo chuubas start with like a 100k subs even before debut now. But the real point he misses is that, that happens because Hololive is generally very good at picking talent, only very few members have turned out to be duts and actually undeserving of their brand identity sub boost.

If Hololive had a history of hiring actually untalanted people who scoot by on the brand name alone there might be something to defend here but he was just talking out of his ass, totally dismissing the reality of what Hololive talent actually is. I mean don't forget, he doesn't watch Hololive or Vtubers in egenral. He's friends with Mousey, Mori, Ollie and superchatted Ame once as a joke, that's the extend.

>>16764117
Like they say, fans reflect the streamers. The moment they get cornered, they immediately turn and fling their shit at other Hololive girls.
At least chumbuds are honest, they say front and center how they don't care about Hololive other than Gooruh. Mori, and in extension deadbeats, is willing to shit the bed thinking that'd somehow make them 'win', instead of realizing they're just digging their graves even deeper.

>>16764553
I wish more people understood this

>>16764553
People buy sports jerseys & the like for rookie players and noone questions it, but god forbid anyone subscribes to a vtuber pre-debut. That's too much.

>>16764721
People do question it though, a lot.

>>16764867
No, not really

>>16761139
>Pitting friends against each other with $100 strapped on it is polite
You just proved him right

Whether or not you approve of Mori associating with and signal boosting someone who disparages Hololive, at this point you're bound to at least admit that she told a lie, right?

>>16764583
>I mean don't forget, he doesn't watch Hololive or Vtubers in egenral
Might have been true last year at the time of the first Calli/TT collab, but I wouldn't be surprised if he spends all his spare time watching chuubas now (EN only)

>>16764489
How was that a hissy fit? You're projecting, and of course you aren't arguing with them. The point was you wouldn't in the first place.

>>16765005
Literally the first result on google that isn't selling a jersey for 'buying sports jerseys for rookie players' is even fucking reddit saying they don't do that shit.

>>16764489
Again, why do you think I was mad because I called out some bullshit? You're avoiding the question.

>>16760074
Kiara in her first alternate outfit
Mori in her most recent outfit
comeon anon this shit is clearly weeks or months apart

>>16765082
Oh god, someone lied! Better get keemstar on the dial and let him know this breaking news story for the exclusive exposé.

HATE CONNOR
HATE MORI
LOVE HOLOLIVE

>>16765202
Really? Because I definitely bought jerseys of rookie players and regretted it later when they sucked ass

>>16764553
are you fags dumb? what you fags are talking about is the definition of out of context. The Connor fag isnt even talking about the audition or whatever you do before Hololive. The whole topic is based on lying on your CV to get into a company, and once you get into the company, it doesn't even matter anymore whatever the fuck you wrote in your CV, you just secured your bag. This is when he made Hololive an example.

I hate the Connor fag, but at least I watch and try to understand the whole story before giving my opinion. Unlike you fags

>>16765415
what does he know about sending in a cv somewhere in the first place

>>16759468
Lmao that's it? That's some legit good advice given to her on a members stream

>>16765359
That's okay, anon. I just hope you are prepared for no future statement of hers about anything remotely controversial bearing any credibility since she is known to be a liar.

>>16762087
>OP's superchat is photoshopped. Prove me wrong.
It's not. Keep coping though.

>>16765470
He worked at McDonalds.

>>16765415
It doesn't change the fact that he said you don't need talent to be successful in Hololive

>>16765470
i dont fucking know, I dont care about the guy. I'm just saying what the context is, and why bring that up? are you also a stupid fag? the topic is their whole convo is out of context

>>16765415
Why use hololive as an example when he doesn't fucking know how hololive works? Why not use vshojo who were literally having auditions when that conversation happened, and is by all means a successful company?

>>16762210
Who's on reddit again? Yeah, no one.

>>16765476
Unwanted good advice is still shitty for the person receiving it.

>>16765476
>Telling her how to act
>Putting words in her mouth
Are you unable to see how that message could be perceived as rude?

remember to never apologize for anything you say online, even in private, because schizos will take it as an admission of guilt

>>16765362
your days are numbered, chud unicorn

>>16765570
>the topic is their whole convo is out of context
Explain in detail why you think what he said was out of context?
You can't, because it isn't. He insulted every hard working holo and fags like you parrot a line about
>muh context!!!

>>16760289
>Yes, thank you for the money, it's all going to Connor"
Did she actually send him that much because realistically after all cuts she only got around $70-$80 from that akasupa even less if you count taxes. Imagine donating to her.

>>16765501
I don't mind, I don't watch Calli much. I'm just getting my jollies watching over the sperging and hand wringing going on.

>>16765679
If you apologized even privately that means you already were guilty at the first place

>>16765679
Who apologized here? Not connor at any rate.

>>16765616
I don't fucking know. That is why he's getting the heat, as he used a dumb comparison. Even the mouse felt that But you cannot deny the fact that Hololive fans are out of context too, as they only watched the Hololive part of his dumbass analyzation

>>16765560
That's because in this hypothetical you don't. If you get into Hololive, you automatically get an insane boost that is in no way related to your talents. Getting that head start means that you will be in the top 5% of all streamers and it's pretty hard to fuck up at that point.

>>16765359
>Oh god, someone lied! Better get keemstar on the dial and let him know this breaking news story for the exclusive exposé.

>find out mori thinks so lowly of her genmates and everyone else, including herself
>don't think that a problem for future stability of the entire project

>>16765726
Actually she sent him more, 50 gift subs for $250. That is probably why that amount was selected for the follow-up 'condom money for Connor' SC.

>>16765560
omfg, Im going to go full toddler on you fags. Here:

Context:
Lie on your CV - get the job - get the money

Connor's dumbass comparison:
Lie on your CV to get into Hololive - get the job - get the money

Understood kids?

>>16765839
The problem is thats mostly not true because lying on a hololive audition tape seems like it wouldnt work because they could just go look at your content. And whatever point he was trying to make didnt make sense and was an insult to hololive but instead of saying that he made a bad analogy, he just claimed people saw it without context

>>16765890
While I don't think it helps, I don't think it compares to the Menhera meltdowns that some JP Hololive have had in potential damage to the 'entire project'.

>>16765952
How do you lie at an audition? Say you were a popular vtuber but don't give them a name or an example to look into? His dumbass comparison was just a dig on Hololive

>>16765679
Apologizing is always a mistake, online or not.

>>16764108
so 4 more years with this bitch?

>>16762066
didn't know calli posted here

>>16765362
simple as

>>16766094
>strewth, I'll easily stream more than once a month cunt

>>16763906
where do you people come from? leddit? twitter?

>>16766235
Fair point but you still won't see the numbers you would get if you streamed more so the work you put in equals the numbers you get. Still not very fair to say no one in hololive needs or has talent because of that

> Conner is just very insecure and tries to bring down people who are less "talented" than himself
the irony of 4channelers, stop projecting

>>16766382
4what, retard?

>>16765415
connor's ego got bruised when ame rejected him and didn't act like a fangirl that wants to suck his dick when he superchatted her

>>16766473
ratio

How is he wrong?
Look at Omega (A terrible idea.)
120k subscribers. More than any member of Prism Project.
Never streamed anything. Probably never will.
Popularity is entirely due to Hololive. Getting in gives you a certain degree of success before you've even streamed.

>>16765679
Mori but you applied to an idolcompany.

>>16759468
QRD?

>>16766319
warosu

>>16761520
I think that anon meant was when Mori had issues with lag/delay because she didn't test the game with Gura so Cuphead stream was a shitshow and overall she was in low energy. Then like next day she had a collab with Trashtaste guys and she was really excited and better prepared compared to Gura collab

It didn't help that the Cuphead collab was close to Reddit meme review and she made Coco uncomfortable because Mori wasn't reacting to anything, even when Coco was trying to making her laugh.

>>16766607
Again this ignores the entire audition process, the fact that Omega isn't even a streamer so I wouldn't compare it to any of the actual talents, and that if the streamer is bad people will stop watching. Hololive doesn't guarantee success, it guarantees recognition and recognition only goes so far for sucess

>>16766001
>I don't think it compares to the Menhera meltdowns that some JP Hololive have had in potential damage to the 'entire project'.
I dunno man it sounds pretty bad. Means that whenever you see the others collab with Mori you'll be wondering if they're wondering
>hmm I wonder if she looks down on me and calls be a talentless bitch and laughs about it with all her real friends.
Not exactly good for group cohesion.

>>16766757
Correct. If every Holomember were a Sana or Anya they wouldn't have the initial boost because people wouldn't think that the brand stood for quality.

>>16766559
No that guy but what the fuck are normalfags like you do here? Go back offsiter with your normalfags meme.

>>16762836
can you elaborate on the groomer part?

>>16765952
>omfg
>plebbit spacing
Go back tourist.

>>16766829
people shitting on connor just because his main audience are women, just a bunch of misogynist incels

>>16766607
how is he right?
look at marine, can sing, can make you laugh, can draw, and this faggot dares to say she is popular because she is in hololive, like nigga stop

>>16766829
In his early yt days and the thing that got him any substantial following were his fans who were overwhelmingly represented by underaged girls. Presumably that anon refers to something that occurred then.

>>16766899
ratio

>>16759808
And it was. She flipped out and said she won't read anymore more red SC if she doesn't want to and that she'll use the money and donate it to her friends. She taunted/provoked the chat. That's how mad she was cuckbeat.

>>16766980
You know, the irony of him having become what he is now through pandering to thirsty fujos and then turning around to disparage chuubas for supposedly doing so with male fans, only struck me just now.

What a projecting piece of shit.

>>16766980
>>16766991
exploiting a young, lonely and desperate audience is exactly the same thing idol companies do though

>>16767033
>>16766980
fuck off twitterfags, go back to your woke cesspool

>>16761520

>>16767336
> old pic
the absolute state of antis

>>16767156
Him thinking that holo viewers are pathetic shows what he probably thinks about his own audience.

>>16767365
>old pic
>still true

>>16767336
>32 seconds ago

>>16767386
i mean, if he didn't think his audience was pathetic he wouldn't have changed his content so drastically

>>16767336
>seething
this word has completely lost all it's meaning, hasn't it?

>>16767336
this is old news. The new one is Mori's roommate liking a Tweet about purposely making an ass song to see how your fans defends it kek

>>16761487
femcel

>>16767234
How many 12yr old boys are sending multihundred akasupas?
Idol companies, and joke idol companies like hololive don't cater to that demographic, and even if they did they'd gain no money from them.

>>16768122
mentally 12 year old manchildren with way too much money and nothing else to spend it*

>>16761487
you're the reason people think women are dumb

>>16765560
Council has no talent you retard

>>16761487
>There's also winning in wisdom by NOT doing something you know?
Tell that to connor and mori.

>>16761648
Connor, nobody here likes you. Fuck off.

>>16761548
>>16768117
>>16768357
>>16768479
More examples of desensitized individuals not realizing the real issue :
The guy who could've not sent the akasupa and spare everyone here all the headaches

>>16768357
>>16768117
there's no reason to argue with you retards.

>>16768357
>>16768117
touch grass and ratio

>>16768872
>ratio
go back already ffs

>>16761648
>overall positive impression of hololive

Probably true but they also, especially Connor, think that japanese idol culture is creepy and predeatory, either to the girls or towards the fans. So they only support the chuubas that go against idol culture or do it ironically.

In the case of Joey, it's pretty obvious that he has a power level somewhat higher than the other two, with being into loli and stuff like that, but he's the kind of guy who'll start to bad mouth things his friends find weird. This whole fucked dynamic of being anime fans ironically is what makes TT so fucking cancer. Playing up this whole "weird japan" angle to pander to fucking yt idiots.

Connors criticism of hololive is just an extension of that general attitude.

>>16759468
based

>>16759836
This guy is history and the fact he spent 250$ just for trolling makes it even better. A true gigachad.

>>16763715
Calli is lying. That's why this is a thing.
She's lying to everyone in order to cover for terrible anime youtubers who hate their own audience in an attempt to save face.

>>16768787
>never say anything oh no!
>just take it and be silent!
>even if I word it as politely as possible and have a legitimate grievance nooooo!
doormatized individual right here

>>16770020
>Lie about things a friend said and put words in her mouth
>legitimate grievance

>>16770020
ratio

Ok deadbeats why are you defending mori this time ?
She lied.
But most importantly,
Connor and his faggots friends are bad for Hololive, they could collab with males but not that kind.

>>16767793
>The new one is Mori's roommate liking a Tweet about purposely making an ass song to see how your fans defends it kek
holy shit, I already masturbated a moment ago and this means I have to go do it again...

>>16770200
>>16770407
seethe, cope and give me yous lmao

>>16770564
Right, name me one good thing that Connor and Trash Tastes contribute to Hololive or its individual members

>>16770898
more audience and clout

Ah yes the cirque du soleil and the Olympics are guaranteed success, you don't have to have talent when you make it in

>>16770978
The funny thing is they don't at all. Reddit unironically brings in more newcomers when they hit front page.

Anyone who will watch trash taste even before they brought Mori on already fucking knew about Hololive.

>>16765188
dumb hole

>>16770978
Trash Taste has less subs then several Holomems and I highly doubt their crossover affected Holomem numbers. As for clout, what clout?

>>16770978
Yes but at what price ? Mental health/stress/depression

Hold the fucking phone, what happened? I was watching the stars play ARK, and now Im seeing Mori did a funny? And it involves that connor guy? So what the fuck did she do this time? Im out of the loop.

>>16771220
She's defending people who talk shit about holo/anime fans and piling up lies in the process of doubling down. That's the short of it.

>>16771220
read replies to >>16768796

>>16768787
>>16768831
>>16768872
triggered foid

>>16765322
ahaha watch streams retard

>>16761520
Someone just needs to put every Mori yab in one place so newfags can catch up on the /vt/ meta

>>16761487
Like NOT responding in anger to some chud on the internet live on stream?

>>16759808
It was

>>16759836
That one came later. The original Supa in question was in a member’s stream. So not many people have actually seen it

>>16759468
You people are delusional. This supa is rude as hell and is concern trolling/attempting to tone police because they don't like the welsh faggot. This is the most bullshit nothing drama I've ever seen on this board, you're all fucking mentally deranged. Or third worlders, basically the same thing.

>superchat thread
>no superchats

>>16772821
post tits

>>16761052
The super is perfectly polite, he is simply sharing his opinion. I personally don’t agree with it and I know for a fact that Mori doesn’t either, but how she reacted to it is on her. She is the one who has caused this to become an issue in the first place.

>>16772821
mori please. you lashed out because you couldn't convincingly disprove the akasupa and everyone saw that, not because you were insulted. relax now, it's history.

>>16770978
>more audience
More like sleeper agents. They'd undermine the holos for the sake of these grifters, eg ask for collabs, quickly defend them whenever they talk shit about holos, shill other vtubers etc. At the end of the day they are TT niggers first, holo "fan" second.

>>16761142
Here and on her streams faggot. I wonder if she’ll bring it up again?

>>16773547
She already kicked the hornets' nest with that "refund" shit, if she doesn't bring it up schizos here surely will.

>>16761487
Women are never responsible for anything.

>>16773890
This.
If you are remotely close to being an anime fan then you should know that the EVIL FEMALE CHARACTER did NOTHING WRONG

>>16769062
Exactly this. I stopped watching when I realized their show just became their personal rant session for all their complaints being expats in Japan. It's like they want to paint themselves as stupid foreigners with the the privilege of working on their own terms, where they can consume all that Japan has to offer while disrespecting their culture.

>>16761317
>In her circle of friends
That's a weird way to say boyfriend.