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>> No.16712982

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.16713023
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>36,391: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,735: Laplus (Hololive)
>25,357: Mio (Hololive)
>23,086: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>18,306: Miko (Hololive)
>17,795: Shigure Ui (Indie)
>17,506: Choco (Hololive)
>17,305: Botan (Hololive)
>16,716: Gura (Hololive)
>16,101: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,700: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>13,213: Gatchman (Indie)
>11,894: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,616: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,763: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,641: Ina (Hololive)
>10,565: Lamy (Hololive)

>> No.16713063

>>16713023
>missed 40k again
pakora reclining?

>> No.16713071

Noel 10k get

>> No.16713089

>>16713023
anon you're uselss

>> No.16713131

>>16713023
Chii-chan inclining? She hasn't made the chart since November 1st

>> No.16713174

>>16713023
>nsfw thumbnail bait
"Number"bunny is getting desperate i see

>> No.16713197

>>16713023
Only the Apex players managed to enter the list for Nijisanji. At this point, they're better off joining Merise. Anycolor management is completely incompetent holy shit.

>> No.16713207

>>16713063
Ark is not pekora's game

>> No.16713215
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>>16713023
Pekora is the undisputed number 1 right now since Kuzuha is in constant state of debuff playing Valorant and doing his idol reps

>> No.16713267

>>16713215
Kizuha was never a threat. He's Aqua tier at best.

>> No.16713308

>>16713215
Marine is better, Pekora varies too much from games to games

>> No.16713312

>>16713131
Leeching off Hal finally paid off. Of course, Kuzuha not streaming could be a factor for her recent incline.

>> No.16713342

>>16713215
nouSEAgi getting uppity again.
no wonder your oshi hates you

>> No.16713388
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reminder that ccvid,

>> No.16713400
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>>16713308
>>16713342
Based.
We hate Pekora around here

>> No.16713437

>>16713207
what's her game then?

>> No.16713455

>>16713400
The more you hate Pekora, the stronger she grows. Watch her get Gold with ARK again today.

>> No.16713456

>>16713023
Sultan Minecraft 12k?

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Hopefully cunny will move soon so she stops streaming from the cafe downstairs' wi-fi, this could've been a 30k without the drops

>> No.16713480

>>16713400
Go back to your containment thread.

>> No.16713501

>>16713197
seethe more retarded holobrony. you have no idea what youre talking about

>> No.16713528

>>16713456
He used to be a minecraft architect pro streamer, before coming to niji
His minecraft streams are always popular, he wass getting 20k+ when he was making his island

He also a huge follower of a jun and a hololive anti by the way

>> No.16713543

>>16713455
>>16713480
>t. vocal minority
Pekora's reclining ccv and membership supports my claim.

>> No.16713597

pakora schizo arguing with himself again

>> No.16713607

>>16713528
He meant why Sultan isnt in the tally, just like Noel.

>> No.16713673

>>16713607
he started after midnight
she will get lost to the void because tallyanon is becoming too fat and lazy

>> No.16713674

>>16713528
Stop bringing his name up here. If you wanna discuss midgets, we have /asp/ for that.

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>>16713528
This >>16713607 but nice information though!

>> No.16713739

>>16713673
My bad, didnt notice his start time. Too busy getting smack on my ass by Koyori.

>> No.16713962
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Noel keeping 10k engaged on a 4AM cosy ark playthrough sasugaaa

>> No.16714257

>>16713437
everyone knows MC is pekora's strongest game anon

>> No.16714293

Miko never broke 20k...my poor Miko

>> No.16714308

>>16713962
I always wonder how Kiara feels when JP members get bigger numbers during their streams past midnight when it's supposed to be her primetime. Even if you add 20-30% to her ccv, its still lower. No wonder she has menhara outbreaks.

>> No.16714434

>>16714293
Botan almost got better numbers than Miko. Is Miko reclining?

>> No.16714493

>>16714434
Miko still beats Gura

>> No.16714546

>>16714493
Is Gura reclining?

>> No.16714551

>>16713501
He has a point though. 2 apex streams and a post cr cup victory recap.

>> No.16714594

>>16714308
>20-30% to her ccv
it is more but you still got a point

>> No.16714675

Nearly 12k for Koyori ASMR is actually very impressive, there's not many with a higher average for ASMR than that, as far as I can tell just Noel, Patra and Rushia, and roughly the same as Lamy

>> No.16714763

>>16714434
Miko and Pekora shares a lot of the same audience, they just eat each other shares when they stream at the same time
That's also why their DQ streams didn't do better

>> No.16714811

>>16714675
Koyori might just be the Lamy that can sing.

>> No.16714840

>>16714308
well japan has more vt fans than europe
even in the middle of the night

>> No.16714908

>>16714840
(me) also kiara is playing a debuff game and noel is doing the current meta
honestly i dont think kiara cares as much nowadays
she still got them superchats

>> No.16714995

>>16714908
It isnt just the ARK meta, even Luna and Watame can do better at this time slot. Though her low viewership may attract more pity SCs.

>> No.16715015

>>16713437
Put her in Minecraft with Usaken. Or literally just Moona, and watch her number soar sky high.

>> No.16715041

>>16714675
Choco had a small slide back into sub 10k in the past few months but she's a consistent 12-14k

>> No.16715057

>>16714675
It's honestly uncunny how Holox is the perfect foil to Holofantasy in terms of character lore and design. If this shit was an Anime they'd be the main villains of S2

>> No.16715397

>>16713467
>make 10s of thousands of dollars a month
>live in a hovel
Why? I know Cover left her hanging for like 10 months but still.

>> No.16715512

>>16714675
She's been trying to get gachi and appeal to unicorns pretty hard.

>> No.16715561

>>16715512
She is following the steps of the original Lamy.

>> No.16715655
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16715655

20k followers get
Just more 887k followers remaining to beat Ironmouse and 10k to beat Selen

>> No.16715712

>>16715512
I'd say she's succeeding since she's only behind Chloe, Rushia and a birthday buffed Pekora for SCs this month

>> No.16715918

>>16715712
Koyori SCs are pretty consistent every day. Still salty that she turned her monetization stream into a gimmick, definitely would have gotten more if it was the full hour.

>> No.16716159

>>16712971
Who's the Erwin Smith of vtubing?

>> No.16716750
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Emperor incline?

>> No.16717312

>>16716750
Yugioh incline

>> No.16718036
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>> No.16718198

>>16713215
Lmao when has he ever been a threat to her? He needs to constantly play some FPS that japanese people used to love so dearly and now that started to become a dead game King can't really be called King anymore...

>> No.16718454

>>16718036
?

>> No.16718478

>>16714434
Miko has been a third wheel for a while. She has been inclining slowly but steadily since her long break in 2020 but she's still a third wheel. She's just a second or third choice whenever other Holomembers are streaming.

>> No.16718538

>>16715655
I imagine her followers will explode when she actually does a stream over there.

>> No.16718635
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>>16713023
Gura got beat by gen5

>> No.16718790

>>16714546
Yes

>> No.16718789

>>16718036
Chumkeks BTFO

>> No.16718863

>>16718478

>She's just a second or third choice

Especially if Marine or Peko are streaming since these two are her biggest overlaps in fanbase. But today she did well still, she climbed to 18k even with Peko, Botan and Lamy streaming Ark at the same time

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I don't like the vod views cope but this is insane for 2k stream

>> No.16719062

>>16718478
>>16718863
If Miko is a "third wheel" then she is the strongest third wheel ever. She has been #2 in watch hours for a solid year now. Why do Reddit Duck fans feel the need to slander Miko constantly? It never stops.

>> No.16719185

>>16718982
>2k stream
2k CCV average? Should have no more than 50k views total. Was this CCVID?

>> No.16719254

>>16719185
>4 days ago

>> No.16719393

>>16718982
https://playboard.co/en/channel/UCCK072ns5Bt1nYqX1CoaZ-g
she in fact never went higher than 2.5k ccv, yet shes full of 100k vods; that started even before ccvid. Something fishy about her

>> No.16719551

>>16719393
Yeah she's subscribed to a lot of HoloID-only clippers and yet she has Moona Banned from her livechat. Some comments seem to mention her trying to be like Moona but I can't find anything else for the moment. I don't like her look either, she looks like a typical e-whore.

>> No.16719712

>>16718982
Isn't this the one that has all the Hololive and Nijisanji meta tags?

>> No.16719818
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>>16719712
yes

>> No.16719836

>>16719062
>Reddit duck
>when they literally brought up ***two*** other people and didn't mention her at all
God can you just kill yourself already, no one cares

>> No.16719880

>>16719393
400k YT subs but 19k Twitter followers? Very strange indeed...

>> No.16719943

>>16719880
Twitter is banned in Indonesia.

>> No.16719977

>>16719943
how the fuck does Holo and Niji ID use it then?

>> No.16720036

>>16719943
https://twitter.com/jokowi
I know nothing about indog land but its president has a twatter account so you're lying

>> No.16720170

>>16719977
They can certainly bypass it but casuals won't bother. Holos and Nijis have many non-ID fans hence they have high Twitter followers.

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>>16719254
>2k average
>5 days ago
>5h stream
>only 50k
This thread is full of retarded people

>> No.16720286

>>16720036
Twitter is banned in China too but some of their departments do have official representation there.

>> No.16720291

>>16720170
Twitter isn't banned in Indonesia anonchama, you got it confused with Reddit

>> No.16720309

Anyone got the list of songs hitting 1M views by days?

>> No.16720369

>>16719254
4 days would not account for a 3x+ growth on a video with relatively low CCV for its total views. Maybe if >>16718982 bothered to explain what is happening in relation to the video, then maybe people here wouldn't be questioning what is wrong with the picture in the first place.

>> No.16720477

>>16720286
China has "official VPNs" where they can monitor all your traffic.

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>>16718789
>>16718036
>>16718635
Ummm bros????

>> No.16720685

>>16720541
Less tourists

>> No.16720697

>>16720541
ccv is a shit metric, any non-schizo knows

>> No.16720713

>>16720685
Yeah bro, that's it.

>> No.16720744

>>16720541
What lewd things did Choco do to gozaru.

>> No.16720785

>>16720541
You don't need to post this everytime. Anybody who isn't a schizo knows EN is being culled and Gura had the highest viewership out of those streams.

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>>16718982
yt algo pretty normal

>> No.16720823

>>16719836
You Reddit Duck fans started this back in December. I'm not going to just sit back and take it while you constantly slander Miko.

>> No.16720966

>>16720785
i think he does need to post these examples actually, or the schizos run wild with thier bullshit

>> No.16721018

>>16720966
I mean pretending Gura getting 17k on a game is some unusual recline is running wild with bullshit already. Or that 17k+ are Choco/ Botan (botan less so) usual.

>> No.16721024

>>16714551
Yes, let's not count all the other days where non-apex streams were in there

>> No.16721560

>>16720791
The bizarre spike in her VOD views pretty much tells the story, I think. Especially the ones from last year.

>> No.16721696

>>16719062
>Reddit Duck fans
Try nijinigger falseflaggers.

>> No.16721736

This thread is impressively dead for something that's bout to turn into shitpost central once Gura streams some obscure game to an audience of "barely" 15k non spam viewers

>> No.16721871

>>16721736
SEA is asleep. Nijikeks aren't here to rile things up.

>> No.16721885

>>16721736
seamonkeys havent woken up just yet, notice how clean it is right now

>> No.16722120

>>16712349
what the fuck? I find that very hard to believe.

>> No.16722128

does someone have the list of golds for this month?

>> No.16722143

>>16721871
>>16721885
It's amazing how much of a blight they manage to be, I miss when /numbers/ was able hold comfy Holo discussions without them incessantly shitting on the dinner table.

>> No.16722206

>>16722143
not your safe space faggot

>> No.16722209

>>16721885
Range ban all of SEA please.

>> No.16722277

>thread was just fine
>nijhomo go live
>sharts like >>16722206 pop up
Just die already

>> No.16722474

>>16721736
You can show these people how Gura has comparable views per min on her shit TING stream to Pekora’s Ark vod a day ago that had 30k avg viewers and 40k peak and people here will still act like Gura is bottom of the barrel trash. Just enjoy the cute and funny.

>> No.16722497

>>16722120
She's been collabing with Haachama lately so her incline is just normal.

>> No.16722567

>>16722497
nijislut leeching as always, when is she coming to Holo?

>> No.16722592

guys I need numbers right now please I'm begging you

>> No.16722619

>>16722567
Never. She would get anti'd to hell even more as a Holo than she is as a Niji right now.

>> No.16722668

>>16722592
Pekora will reach 2M views on the シンデレラ/Cinderella cover in not so much time(surely tomorrow or in two days), which is honestly the best cover of that song.

>> No.16722688

>>16722567
>muh leeching
I don't know if you know this but normal humans can be friends.

>> No.16722705

Where are the views?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hg0Nchl3HU

>> No.16722725

>>16722619
Why? Holofans are much more forgiving than schizo nijiniggers who set her on fire for nicking food stamps.

>> No.16722738

>>16722497
I meant how low her sub count is

>> No.16722767

>>16722725
I don't know if hololive fans would like being called virgins by her

>> No.16722773

>>16722738
She colabs with homos, go figure.

>> No.16722777

>>16722725
Who says it's the Holo fans who would harass her?

>> No.16722787

>>16722705
Main channel debuff

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5k in about 20min in. probably it will peak at 6 or 7k max looking at the graph

>> No.16722851

>>16722799
OH NONONONONONO NIJIKEKS WHA HAPPUN? GURA KILLER??

>> No.16722877

>>16720541
Botan's stream and Choco's stream basically ended with those viewer counts. How much did Gura have after she finished?

>> No.16722882

>>16722851
Debuff timezone.
Westerners don't watch him.

>> No.16722904

the samefagging has commenced again

>> No.16722940

>>16722799
>Orange King
>KNEEL
>I KNEEL
>non-stop shit thread
...all for 5k, it's so tiresome.

>> No.16722996

>>16722882
It's always a debuff isn't it? cope faggot.

>> No.16723088

>>16722882
And he only got 3k for his buff timezone earlier. Face it, the tourists have moved on.

>> No.16723136

>>16722799
Can faggots stop bringing this midget trashtuber up? The thread gets swarmed by brown nijiniggers every time, nobody benefits.

>> No.16723140

>>16722799
>birthday countdown
>hasn't even been a month since debut
>birthday already
Fucking pathetic

>> No.16723193

>>16723088
Lol those fickle SEA fujos will go back to watching the nijijp homos by the end of month.

>> No.16723212

>>16719712
Tags are useless since a long time

>> No.16723222
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>Ina's current stream
This feels like a new one

>> No.16723246

>>16723222
I'm 99% sure I saw this happen with Koyori, not sure if the site picked it up

>> No.16723295

>>16723246

it happened with towa as well

>> No.16723342

>>16722799
Very lucky man to get a birthday so close to his peak popularity phase

>> No.16723403

>>16723342
Just a coincidence, nothing to see here. Move on.

>> No.16723445

>>16723140
how many other nijien members have their birthday close to their debut date?

>> No.16723505

>>16723445
All of ethyria had their birthday close to debut

>> No.16723533

>>16723445
Most of them, they're so shameless in superchat sharking. Funny thing is, it still only puts up midget numbers.

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>>16723222
That's a lot more calmer than the one from vrabi

>> No.16723679

>>16723505
>>16723533
>debut obnoxious amount of members
>attach easy arbitrary milestones to cash in asap
>members become drought, leading to mass graduation
It's the tried and tested niji formula.

>> No.16723700

>Lui collab with Ame and Iofi
>koyori collab with Anya
hmm is there any holox scheduled to collab with ollie? she's usually their go to for ID collab

>> No.16723718

>>16723602
Jesus christ

>> No.16723750

>>16723602
That's pretty normal for her streams though. A lot of people usually tabs in when she's working on the more exciting parts of her drawing.

>> No.16723793

>>16722705
SENPAI...

>> No.16723800

>>16722705
It's way worse than Hyakka Ryoran Hanafubuki so it'll get one play and then will be forgotten.

>> No.16723905

>>16722705
>Full 3D MV (quite a nice one too)
>Hololive channel darling, Ayame herself
I thought Umisea Domination was a massive flop, but are the Hololive channels just debuffs?

>> No.16723935

>>16723700
who cares, ID collab bring bad number anyway

>> No.16723936

Are there seriously no Hololive EN streams for more than an hour?
How?

>> No.16723942

>>16723905

>are the Hololive channels just debuffs?

anon the main channel has always been a big fucking debuff

>> No.16723965

>>16723679
don't get my hopes up

>> No.16723986

>>16723905
Hololive is a failure so yes that channel is a debuff

>> No.16723990

>>16723905
3D MVs don't mean much for a musical piece that gets most of it's views from being a BGM
>>16723936
Do your VOD reps faggot

>> No.16723994

>>16723936
Nobody ever wants to stream at 6-7 PM Eastern. It's fucking hilarious.

>> No.16724002

>>16723700
La+ has a collab with senpai scheduled but it'll probably be a JP again.

>> No.16724075

>>16723990
>VOD
Fuck that i don't have the attention span required for it, i can only watch streams

>> No.16724129

>>16723994
HoloEN new wave when?

>> No.16724146

>mysta 6k and still growing just for a countdown

his actual birthday stream later will do bad, r-right?

>> No.16724155

Oh I forgot. Saturday might be Gold secured for Pekora as she has a 4members stream in the evening. So DQ8 at 13:00 and surely the gold Collab at 21 or 22:00.

>> No.16724192

>>16718982
>High vods
>Low ccv
I can explain
>Getting famous in tiktok, swarmed by underage coomers
>Getting famous thanks to twitter meme
>getting shout outs from normalfag YouTubers
>People start to search her up
>People click the VOD once and watch it for 3 minutes, click subscribe then leave
>never tune in for her streams, never donate
The same could be said here
>Her fans or maybe herself spams /vt/ with her image
>/vt/ anons started to get curious about her
>/vt/ anons checking her videos, further inflating her VOD views and helping her with the YT algorithm
>/vt/ anons leave
That just means she's attracting some audience by spamming herself everywhere but she can't keep that audience or converting it to stream viewers.

Also you don't need to click the stream, just check her channel on playboard, newfagkun

>> No.16724272

>>16724146
How does he get 6K+ during NA timeslots when until the Wave 4 debuts NijiEN was never able to get even close to that number?

I thought Wave 4 was only successful due to JP/CN/SEA viewers but numbers like these are at the same level as Bae/Fauna/Ame and higher than Sana/Kiara.

Did this thread lie to me again that the males were a failure?

>> No.16724281

>>16724155
Towa mentioned that as well I think?

>> No.16724296

>>16724155
oh god how many golds in a row can she get

>> No.16724364

>>16724272
its 9am in japan which isn't an ungodly hour to be watching a stream

>> No.16724395

>>16724155
Glad to see Pekora is back at full-steam. Since none of the clip channels actually clipped this it might've gone under the radar of a lot of people that during a DQ 8 stream she talked about how she was actually pretty depressed in December and what brought back her passion for streaming was defeating Sans.

>> No.16724424

>>16724155
Saturday is Rushia's birthday.

>> No.16724469

>>16724281
Heeeeh, that's way too obvious if it is another PeBoToRu Collab'... They might have planned another session on that trap game, Quest Room or whatever the fuck that was.
>>16724296
Yes, don't question the crazy rabbit's potential regarding this.

>> No.16724513

>>16723679
Having a birthday close to debut is a debuff for SCs, not a buff

>> No.16724595

another sub 20k stream for gura?

>> No.16724598

>>16724513
I didn't say it was the optimal strategy, if anything it just shows their shortsightedness.

>> No.16724622

>>16724595
highly likely unless she's in very good spirit and the game is somehow good (doubtful)

>> No.16724639

>>16724598
Look at the other side of things. If they fell off hard a month from now, at least they got a lot of money at the start.

>> No.16724656
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Looking at holoX numbers again and they are indeed really strong as a whole, Koyori appears to be inclining even. They have 2 members that can get 15k+ just by doing zatsudans and La+ regularly goes over 20k even when not doing anything special. Even Lui who was "doomed" is doing alright.
Honestly it feels like the biggest debuff of the entire gen is the fact that Lapras has shit internet and pukes when playing games that aren't rhythm games. Still not sure where I'd rank Sakamata in terms of views since she's yet to return and stream properly post-CCVID.

>> No.16724677

>>16724272
open his chat, fujos are alaready up

>> No.16724735

https://youtu.be/xWXpyhzHXAI

I swear, it doesn’t matter whether it’s an EN clip, JP clip, Korean clip, Gura gets numbers wherever she goes.

>> No.16724834

>>16724735
>clip numbers
Now that's just sad

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>>16724656
>rank Sakamata
7k~ for non karaoke collab, maybe doin good during collab, insane SC

>> No.16724870

>>16724836
>sad whale poster
Haven't seen you in a while, at least wait until she comes back before doomposting again.

>> No.16724880

Mysta's SC
NT$>$>Y>HK>other

>> No.16724883

>>16724735
>mogged by choco and botan
>mogged by Nene total SC
c-clip guys!

>> No.16724899

>>16724834
HoloEN needs a new wave.

>> No.16724943

>>16724899
>wave
fuck off nijinigger

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>>16724870
>at least wait until she comes back
i am anon, been waiting ever since
need my stinky orca back

>> No.16724965

>>16724899
With each new gen, the hate for streaming will grow.

>> No.16725056

>>16724595
Is the game popular enough to pull tourists? Gura can make it over 20k
Is game neutral? Gura will average 15k
Is the game debuff? 10-13k
Write this down, it's basically the rule and has been almost a year now.

>> No.16725185

>>16724735
Is the title in japanese if you're in japan? All the titles are in english for me, but this is clearly a japanese clip channel. Is this some feature where the channel can set different titles depending on the viewers region?

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>>16724880
>Taiwanese schoolgirls will never cream their panties so much over your voice they give you all their money
Why live?

>> No.16725289

>>16725185
yes and yes

>> No.16725337
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Nijisanji getting mogged by Wactor.

>> No.16725343

>>16725289
Thanks, anon.

>> No.16725347

>>16725185
I’ve noticed that too with street market food videos or asian cooking channels that get recommended to me. They’re clearly KR/JP/Asian videos but get these like generated titles. I have to imagine it’s a feature because there’s no way a Korean market vid with a purely Korean audience is getting these English names

>> No.16725378

https://youtu.be/MMynD8MxeIE
whats this

>> No.16725386

>>16725337
hajiki with that view count is a miracle

>> No.16725450

>>16725386

yu-gi-oh buff

>> No.16725489

>>16725378
Advertisement for the upcoming concert

>> No.16725490

>>16725347
It is a feature

>> No.16725689

>>16725450
Is that new yugioh game?

>> No.16725752

>>16725450
When will Holo play yugioh?

>> No.16726063

>>16725752
>Konami

>> No.16726182
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Today's superchats

>> No.16726264

>>16725752
Fuck,Holo should work on game permissions.

>> No.16726304

>>16726182

>7 Niji
>2 Holo

>> No.16726378

>>16726304
How new?

>> No.16726402

>>16725450
Is this a first time someone from Niji or Holo has ever played Yugioh on stream? I think it might be.

>> No.16726482

>>16725689
Master Duel. It was released just recently without any announcement. Its release date wasn't specified and they just said it was going to be released this season.

>> No.16726528

>>16726182
Holos not even in the top 5.

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How often does this kind of drop happen?

>> No.16726671

>>16724272
Manjisanji is real anon. The thread didn't lie to you. You're probably a dumbass Holostarsfag who refused to consume Niji so you can continue to act like males can't be successful.

>> No.16726753

>>16726645
I've literally never seen it before today

>> No.16726755

Oh, Watson is directly overlapping with Gura.
Considering how Youtube've been counting views for multiple browser tabs for HoloEN, might be disastrous for her.

>> No.16726791

>>16722497
Her incline is also due to her doing solo Diamond APEX. Its a challenge stream series. Not as impressive as solo Master but for her its neat. Sasuga Haru's student.

>> No.16726794

unless mysta does a totsu with JP guests (popular ones)
i dont think he will suprass his past peaks on is actual BD stream.

Anyway careful with the Males discussion as it usually drags down threads lie the nijiEN geenral.

In numbers relaetd ame just put her Apex frame for warmup. so it will do bad numbers
Gura playing another random game so dont expect a lot of numbers.

>>16726645
it happened today to a few persons on jp time. Cant tell you who but i recall it seeing it. I tought it was just a disconection problem.

>> No.16726812

>>16726671
>spam debuts
>spam celebratory streams
>OMG WE GOT SO MANY SUPERCHATS
Why are nijifaggots like this?

>> No.16726881

>>16726755

wait, ame is overlaping her too? jesus, debuff game and this
mysta already has EN gold secured

>> No.16726884

>>16726812
It's so tiresome, I wish they'd stay in their homo orgy threads

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>>16726753

>> No.16727082

It's funny to see Gura's waiting room increase drastically the more she's late (literal minutes), but then the actual on stream growth is nothing like it. I really really wish CCV wasn't the equivalent of a fucking horoscope in accuracy

>> No.16727104

>>16726794
>careful with the Males discussion as it usually drags down threads lie the nijiEN geenral
This thread's inability to discuss them rationally is embarrassing, both on the part of either trolls or newfag fans of theirs who think getting 10k is the biggest achievement ever, and the retards who take their relative success as a personal insult and can't help but attack them for off-topic reasons

>> No.16727125

Seems both gura, ame and all the niijigirls are late to their streams.

>> No.16727203

>>16727082
Yeah the fact this is about to hit an 11k waiting room and for the stream to likely be a like 13-14k average stream is just so frustrating to see honestly. Because you just know there’s a ton more viewers rushing in and only like half of them even count

>> No.16727285

>>16726645
>>16726945
towa's valorant and ina's drawing stream also have these, and while the tracker didn't catch it, it also happened in koyo's asmr
the viewer counter will just randomly drop to 1

>> No.16727348

Lmao just saw Gura's CCV count dip to fucking 1 then back to 7k
what the hell is going on with youtube?

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La+ space.

>> No.16727400

>>16727104
the existance of "golds" alwasy lead to shitposting unfrotunately. JPs apply too.

Anyway from 11k to 4k drop fro shork
Niji starting a 4pov collab also.

>> No.16727794

>>16726182
January superchats so far
>Chloe - $74,979
>Pekora - $71,290
>Rushia - $70,700
>Koyori - $63,313
>Matsuri - $55,610
>Iroha - $55,281
>Fuwa - $51,399
>Towa - $45,295
>Nene - $44,022
>kson - $42,398
>Ike - $42,230
>Vox - $39,750
>Mori - $39,743
>Miko - $38,933
>Subaru - $38,271
>Lamy - $37,972
>Watame - $37,135
>Kiara - $34,227
>Lui - $31,869
>Laplus - $31,442
>Luna - $31,189

>> No.16727892

8 minutes to recove waiting room.

>> No.16727902

Shork made the waiting room back in 8 minutes, that's normal pre 2021 CCVid from what I recall

>> No.16727963

>>16727902
it isnt
normal is 5min or less

>> No.16728015

>>16727963
Mm, maybe, but 3 minute variation isn't indicative of much.

>> No.16728025

>>16724836
She was higher then Koyo do at kwasy 12-15 k

>> No.16728053

ISP again? damn. This week is awful for her. Hope this fixed for ark or bully

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Bros CCVid still with us...

>> No.16728141

>>16728053
At least the VR super hot wotn need it...i think

>> No.16728151

>>16727794
Rushia will surely be ahead at the first place From Saturday on with around 10k+ more than Chloe.

>> No.16728165

Why the fuck does Gura play these random ass debuff games anyway? I can literally see her CCV going down the moment people see what they're dealing with

>> No.16728250

>>16728165
she likes to try random games

>> No.16728286

>>16727104
The majority of this board is heavily opposed to male vtubers. That makes the fans they do have act 10 times more obnoxious to make up for it. Its a vicious cycle that won't change anytime soon.

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Oh god...

>> No.16728375

random ass kusoge so really bad numebrs for gura. Doesnt help that she is a png vtuber and also wake up from a nap.

>> No.16728415

>>16727794
>Ike - $42,230
>Vox - $39,750
>Mori - $39,743
jesas

>> No.16728432

>>16728375
probbaly guras lowest stream yet.
is not breaking 12k

>> No.16728438

>>16726182
>>16727794
>Ike ended up as the gachikoi magnet
WTF?

>> No.16728473

Gura's numbers are very unusual. On one hand, this is clearly a debuff and her viewerships reject every time she plays a metroidvania (see metroid/dread/grime) and they will average 11-13k.
On the other hand those streams started abysmally slow and grew to those peaks over an hour or so, whereas this is literally plateuing near waiting room numbers. There's never been a fucking 11k waiting room for metroid. Usually a stream goes waiting room x2 , and not just Gura.

>> No.16728490

>no model
>shitty game
another debuff day....please let her internet be fixed before the Bully stream

>> No.16728509

>>16728438
he actual has Jp fujos

>> No.16728564

>>16728432
No. Discounting watchalongs, her lowest streams are:
-that one DS3 collab with Ina, where she had sub 10k
-The second sponsored Scarlet Nexus stream, where she barely broke 10k
-probably some random ass metroid stream

>> No.16728589

>>16728415
tbf, they had a lot of special events these past weeeks...but the fact they surpassed their females colleagues in less than a month is kind of sad.

>> No.16728650

>>16726182
MALES
MEN
THE BOYS

>> No.16728708

>>16726645
>>16726753
>>16726945
>>16726794
>>16727285
Maybe it's a problem on the trackers' end? Maybe they're the ones getting disconnection problems.

>> No.16728778

>>16727794
>Nijifemales are irrelevant
kekk

>> No.16728811

>>16728708
No. I caught Gura dropping to 1 view. I pointed it out here >>16727348, but it quickly corrected itself. Sorry, no screenshot though since it didn't last long.

>> No.16728839

>>16728473
Just send a message to youtube >>16728327
>>16728135

This is need to FIX

>> No.16728861

>>16728438
One of his most popular jp clips is about him meeting a bunch of japanese tourists, speaking japanese with them and then saying he holds the moment dear to his heart. Why would you not give this nice guy who loves your people your money?

>> No.16728913

>48k likes
Jesas
https://twitter.com/Chihiro_yuki23/status/1483909590102118402?t=ZUalwtjgDW9ubMXsna31XA&s=19

>> No.16728938

>>16727794
>>16727794
I can feel it, Kiara's suicide stream soon
I kneel to Rikku for actually bringing back things as they should be in the west.
Males cashing more than whores.
Luxiem is more rich than HoloEN in less than year, wonderful!

>> No.16728966
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What the hell is going on?

>> No.16728972

>>16728375
this is literally natural recline, good for her, she can finally fuck of this "work"
>take long unannounced vacations after promising not to do that
>cancel streams
>cancel more streams
>come back, actually don't, cancel another stream
>wake up for the next stream
>wtf it's not magically fixed

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>>16728811

>> No.16729028
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Capped to under 12k
Why is YouTube like this?

>> No.16729037

Also ame is havibg coection issues or something but she is unable to recover her waiting room.

Also gura 1 watching again

>> No.16729042

>>16728861
As a male
He is boring compared to Mysta or even Vox.
But jp fujos are a different kind so...

>> No.16729059

>>16728966
Isn't this normal ass Amelia Watson "Guys this is he last game thank you for watching" nonsense? She does it to dodge stream snipers, its really fucking stupid. Then again I can see it working when she had a lot of tourists but 3k should be her core audience and not falling for it.

>> No.16729138

Genuinely what the fuck is Susan's problem with HoloEN and HoloID?

>> No.16729146

>>16728913
Oh that's why she got so many views/SCs today, glad that her insane hours in Apex are paying off a little at least

>> No.16729156

A New Start at 600k now.

>> No.16729161

>>16724395
Nousagi TL clipped it, I think. Is this it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajh9KXOOwDU

>> No.16729166

>>16729059
nah, she messed with some setting live and they applied late, stream was 720p only, I got an AD and it updated to 1080p

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>>16729037
Yup

>> No.16729200

Gura just got culled to ONE viewer AHAHAHA

>> No.16729231
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HoloEN - 13298
NijiEN - 12852

>> No.16729252
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Nijis we can finally win!

>> No.16729270
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16729270

Youtube are you okay?

>> No.16729301

What kind of retarded bug is this

>> No.16729307

>>16729178
this is going to be great shitposting material

>> No.16729365

Mori said some members were thinking on trying Twitch during the drama.
What if is this the final push for Gura to try Twitch?

>> No.16729380
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what has youtube done this time

>> No.16729383

Imagine still thinking Youtube CCV means anything at all.

>> No.16729389

This shit is getting worse and worse... Everyone WILL be gura killer kek

>> No.16729411

>>16729380
Their best!

>> No.16729412

>>16729365
>What if is this the final push for Gura to try Twitch?
Gura hides her viewcount and never looks at her analytics.
Why do you think CCV issues would make her switch?

>> No.16729415

>>16729178
>>16729252
>>16729270
>1view
LMAO, CAN'T EVEN BEAT 2VIEWS

>> No.16729420
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>>16729231

These HoloEn numbers.. oh yeah, today is going to be KING day

>> No.16729428

NEW BUG DROPPED LET'S GOOOO

>> No.16729443

Youtube CCV is like a program getting more and more corrupt lmao

>> No.16729448

such a weird bug
Drops to 1 and return to less numbers than it was before.
>>16729365
you are asusming gura cares about numbers
>>16729389
has it happened to the JPs yet? i know millie from nijiEn had it.

>> No.16729481

>>16729307
Mysta is gonna beat Gura whith his brithday stream isn´t it?

>> No.16729488

Damn, Gura really reclined.

>> No.16729497

>>16729380
Tall Watamage?

>> No.16729515

>>16729380
Her thumbnail face at the back makes it a lot more funnier than it should be.
>>16729383
Aaaaaand this thread will never change, get over it. Everything else are boring to numberfag.

>> No.16729579

>>16729389
> Everyone WILL be gura killer kek
No, just Susan.

>> No.16729589

>>16729515
It makes it looks like half her face is bleeding.

>> No.16729590

>>16728999
For one brief moment, we were all spam viewers.

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>>16729252
>>16729270
>Youtube are you okay?
Not he is not.

Pleas all send a messege @TeamYouTube on twittet

>> No.16729615

>>16729365
>What if is this the final push for Gura to try Twitch?
When she sees Mori succeeding in doing whatever the fuck she wants in Twitch without unicorns to babysit.

>> No.16729644

>ikioi is no longer tracking Gura
>Ame is slowly surpassing Luxiem with Apsex
Today is a weird day

>> No.16729662

>>16729270
>>16729252
Could this be the legendary "last chumbud"!?

>> No.16729665

>>16729270
I saw this for one second during the SMOK stream last night.

>> No.16729668

>>16729481
He was going to anyways.
Gura's ceiling for this type of game was 13-14k without overlap.
She's overlapping with Ame now.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/cW2Gu6Wmg8o

Mysta is going to do well tonight for his bday stream so unless Gura was getting something like 16-17k, he was going to beat her.

>> No.16729703

And of course some faggot made a bait thread with Gura 1 watching screenshot lol, you fags are too predictable

>> No.16729716

>>16729365
Anon Gura hides the numbers for herself

>> No.16729729

>>16729668
>A NijiEN mogging Gura
>Male
Storm is coming in just hours

>> No.16729733

>>16729365
I feel like Gura is happier being away from Twitch. She doesn't care about CCV. About half the ENs don't.

>> No.16729745

>>16729488
>barely stream
>too many technical problems
>start losing audience into NijiEN

>> No.16729792

>>16729703
As if that knowledge would be impossible to obtain by anyone outside of here.

>> No.16729808

>>16729729
>Storm is coming in just hours
You know you don't need to respond right?
Her CCV is so obviously fucked right now anyways.

>> No.16729814

If someone's gonna tweet something to Youtube don't threaten them with Twitch please, chances are they'll take it as shitpost and won't respond.

>> No.16729842

>>16729668
the Gura killer is real!!!

>> No.16729867

>>16729729
>>16729745
You keks really like to larp about your micropenis numbers don't you, how many are watching your branch wide colab now?

>> No.16729920

Gura is mid tier holo now?! No wonder she got beat by gen 5

>> No.16729924

>>16729252
PFFT AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
ALMOST 4 MILLION SUBS BTW.
OH NO NO NO CHUMBROS HAHAHAHA

>> No.16729976

>>16729842

mysta countdown already went to 8k not in his usual timezone, the actual birthday later is going to mogg this on another level KEK

>> No.16730023

>>16729920
>beat by gen 5
LMAO, Gura killers are real.

>> No.16730025

>>16729920
you could have made the argument polka was mogging her for a sec there to make it even funnier

>> No.16730042

Place your bets on how many SCs Mysta is going to get.

>> No.16730079

>>16729976
MYSTA THE GURA KILLER for real this time and totally not a curse btw I KNEEL

>> No.16730096

>>16730025
What's specifically so funny about it being Polka?

>> No.16730114

>>16729733
>She doesn't care about CCV. About half the ENs don't.
That mindset is what made NijiJP lose to HoloJP back in the day.

>> No.16730267

>>16730114
Niji en ain't beating shit lol. They suck.

>> No.16730320

>>16729920
She's a 1view, now, very sad.

>> No.16730342
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>>16730042

Total or just for the stream later? Countdown already went well

>> No.16730369

>>16730042
Well he just got $8.6k so don't expect too much. Probably about the same as that again would be my guess, splitting birthday SCs into a countdown and a later stream can make them look weaker than they actually are.

>> No.16730374

>>16730267
they will eventually, Gura was literally the only one that could get 20k on a regular stream, now she doesn't have buff games or the motivation to stream, everyday gets more and more tired from streaming, barely on 11k and keeps debuffing herself

>> No.16730415

>>16730267
While they're not, and far from being actually able so, I hope HoloEN wakes up one day.

>> No.16730452

>>16730374
Any day now, anon

>> No.16730484

>>16730342
>>16730369
Total. Most of that 8k would've gone to his bd stream anyway if he didn't do a countdown.

>> No.16730513

>>16730114
You write as if NijiJP have had the right mindset the loss wouldn't have happened.
In reality HoloJP won over because it became widely known they were vastly superior in every aspect. Simple as.

>> No.16730529

>>16730374
Sure thing bud, i'm still waiting 1 year+ later.

>> No.16730569

>>16730369
I dont think the countdown will lower the birthday streams total all that much, they are in totally different timeslots so the overlap in viewers on those isnt THAT big

>> No.16730602

>>16730452
>>16730529
keep denying it, its going to be worse once the males arrive to EN, they will be no different from nijis once that happens

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16730613

oh no no no

>> No.16730636

>Gura's CCV is fucked beyond all belief
>Nijiniggers and Last Samurai faggots will shit post about it anyway
Yeah, I think I'm taking the night off from this thread. Enjoy being faggots.

>> No.16730646

>>16730114
It was more their almost complete indifference to non-Japanese audiences

>> No.16730652

>>16730374
Tell me when the NijiEN girls can reliably rack 10k solo. Fucking crickets.

>> No.16730657
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HoloEN - 12000
NijiEN - 14380
EN scene shifting in power

>> No.16730660

>>16730513
if they really pandered to EOPs and refused hololive collabs things could have been different
i'm glad they didn't, but they're ending up like hololive anyway

>> No.16730688

>>16730636
Goodbye Cumtard, sleep well.

>> No.16730727

>>16730657
>1 solo vs an entire branch
Nijiniggers just stop

>> No.16730772

>>16730636
Samurai schizo absolutely seething, you love to see it.

>> No.16730775

>>16730636
Save your 1 view, last chumbud

>> No.16730774

>>16730727
Ame-chan...

>> No.16730786

>>16730657
good, nijiEN deserves it, they are actually working for their numbers, holoEN has been sitting on their ass doing nothing but bleeding viewers

>> No.16730797

>>16730657
Major collab and still lose to a debuff gura lol.

>> No.16730803

>>16730727
Stop responding to bait retard. He even waited for Ame to be at 500 instead the 2500 she's at now to take the screenshot.

>> No.16730826

watching ame imnoticing that disconections are also taking far longer to recover
Ame had 4k, went offline, and taking minutes to recover those poeple.

>> No.16730834
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Ame...

>> No.16730851

>Nijiniggers stars baitching and crying again
This thread going to shit again. Nijiniggers are they trannies of EN

>> No.16730873

>>16730834
>not even Apex can save her anymore
completely her fault

>> No.16730884

>>16730803
HoloEN needs to wake the fuck up.

>> No.16730903

>>16730834
Apex revival arc not helping Ame it seems. How?
Or is it all on Ame?

>> No.16730904

>>16730786
Nijiniggers deserve nothing nigger.

>> No.16730914

>>16730884
Meds pls and kill yourself already

>> No.16730918

Gura reclining hard.

>> No.16730931

>>16730851
They're genuinely insufferable. They'd do great as propagandists, they somehow always watch both numbers for the perfect moment to spin themselves as winning, or via the most incoherent logic.

>> No.16730960

>>16730803
>waited
>for Ame to be at 500

>> No.16730969

someone record it and send it to teamyoutube
the 1 to 11000 viewers and back again

>> No.16731002

>>16730904
holoEN deserves less than nothing at this point, they are bound to lose with their work ethic, it doesn't help that council is putting more work on their roomates alts

>> No.16731018

>>16730931
There are absolutely NGA shitbags pushing NijiEN to "get back" at Hololive.

>> No.16731020

>>16730903
All on Ame.
She's doing absolutely retarded shit to ruin her numbers (turning her stream off when queuing to avoid stream snipers, changing her stream settings while streaming...etc)
These are embarrassing numbers for a comeback stream.

>> No.16731034

>>16730903
Its for not streaming.

>> No.16731035

Gura reaching 1 views again
mmm i wonder if it is reagional someway.

>> No.16731061

so this is just the bait thread eh

>> No.16731077
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susan what the fuck are you doing

>> No.16731080

Niji fuckers having fortune telling right now lmao.

>> No.16731081

>>16730969
It's a weird graphical bug, probably cause by Gura's shit internet since no one else streaming is having the problem, does it really matter or warrant complaining to youtube?

>> No.16731085

>>16731035
I saw Dr Disrepsect get 1 bugged earlier today as well. Just a new bug for the pointless whale bones youtube CCV counter.

>> No.16731094
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https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1483980679264223232?s=20

Bear in mind, the topic here is about the 1 view drops

>> No.16731099

>>16730969
im recording it.

>> No.16731100

>>16730931
Why they don' t have a thread like
Niji number= special Olympics for retards

>> No.16731121

>>16730851
you mean holofags are crying. They can't accept the fact that there's the same amount of people watching NijiEN and HoloEN rn because their whores are lazy

>> No.16731148

>>16731077
>>16731081

Ok maybe other people are getting it too.

>> No.16731162

>>16731018
That explains why luxeim suddenly have a gigantic chink audience padding their numbers from the get go. Like we're supposed to accept that as natural growth, can nijishittys be any more obvious?

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>>16730727
>>16730797

>> No.16731170

>>16731020
What a stupid way to prevent stream sniping.
>>16731061
>what's a containment thread
It sucks at its job though

>> No.16731174

>>16730903
Her stream it's pretty much TI and set up for the collab

>> No.16731175

>>16731100
Shift them away so us /jp/ chads can shit on globalfags in peace

>> No.16731205

>open Gura stream
>no L2D, again
You know she deserves her recline sometimes

>> No.16731247

>>16730851
Who is crying because they are reclining? read your posts an tell me

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>>16730960
Yes, waited.

>> No.16731299

>>16731121
Found the cocksucking nijifaggot, do you enjoy having your talents raped off stream?

>> No.16731326

>>16731256
god i swear half the people on this thread don't even fucking bother checking the websites at the top
they're there for a reason

>> No.16731335

>>16731299
you will enjoy your holos doing the same soon

>> No.16731364

>>16731081
Youtube has been weird since yesterday, these weird drops happened with a lot of streamers

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>>16731326
why do that when you can endlessly bait people and pic releated

>> No.16731412

>>16731081
Nah it's happening with everyone, Towa, Koyori, Polka etc

>> No.16731423

>>16731081
No, it isn't her internet. They literally confirmed they're aware of it
>>16731094

>> No.16731438

>>16731335
Holo won't, since they're actually competent unlike your tranny company. Cope :)

>> No.16731455

>>16731256
Honestly, her numbers are bad today regardless of her stupid antics like turning off her stream.
Ame Apex used to be at least 6k even with Gura overlap and Gura's at her weakest in months.

Holding out hope for decent numbers in the collab later, but I'm not holding my breath.

>> No.16731479

What the fuck is wrong with the number of viewers at Gura? For an hour before the stream almost 3k people were waiting, and the stream itself watching 10k with these strange interruptions to 1 viewer. Ame also has a clearly small number of viewers

>> No.16731481

>>16731299
>>16731335
Take your fucking catfight to whatever bait thread is last on the catalog if you won't talk about numbers you absolute mongoloids

>> No.16731534

>>16730786
I think it would be better for everyone. HoloEN really need some hard competition to realize that they are no longer in 2020 phase. For viewers they have many choices now, I watch Niji when no one from HoloEN streaming.

>> No.16731541

>>16731438
>competent
>when their 2 EN's cant have a working stream
>Gura skipped a stream after coming back, still no L2D after 2 days
>Ame with the same problems she has been having since debut
sure anon, they are VERY competent

>> No.16731594

>>16731479
ame is fixing her pc setup so it is expected as the stream was scheduled like 10min before starting.

>> No.16731665

>>16729605
Why won't EN complain about that? The Japanese would definitely say something if that were happening to them

>> No.16731667

>>16731541
Try looking across the river bank if you think that's bad.

>> No.16731689

>>16731534
I started to do the same when Gura and Ame skipped streams for a whole week unannounced, I'm not going to wait for them lol
I actually started recommending to do the same to my friends, having zero holo streams on primetime (thanks Gura) but hey! look at this another vtuber playing other games!

>> No.16731696

>>16731665
because they're retarded anon

>> No.16731719

>>16731479
She barely beat her waiting room by a few hundred and has been dropping since.
Usually it takes ~40 or minutes for Gura to reach her peak before declining, but she was already declining at the 20 minute mark.

Game is pretty numbers poison, like most metroidvania games, so even the most optimistic prediction would put her at 14-15k.

Ironic because as I was typing this, she just said "Try a new game Gura, it'll be fun they said".
Yeah no, stay the fuck away from games like this please and stick with Minecraft lol.

>> No.16731731

>>16731534
This is great bait, I'm sure it'll attarct many (You)'s and samefags.

>> No.16731759

>>16731667
Every other stream is looking great, maybe YOU should try looking at other streams

>> No.16731792

>>16731689
Touch grass if this has been your thought process.

>> No.16731794

>>16731534
>>16731689
Look at these parading samefags with their pants down thinking they're being smart.

>> No.16731813

>>16731719
Gura hates MC.

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>>16731794
>they dont agree with me, they must be samefagging

>> No.16731830

man, i always commended holo for taking things slow and not getting like 200 livers and focusing on the talents they had but they unironically need en3 like tomorrow

>> No.16731840

>>16731689
Sure ya did false flagger

>> No.16731846

Swear to God this thread will make excuses for holoEN until the end of time, the girls need a reality check

>> No.16731848

Goura has at least 15к viewers on her stream, judging by the speed of her chat.

>> No.16731869

>>16731455
looking at Holopoi all her apex streams reached 8k. Bae's MC yesterday underperformed and Ina didn't reach 9k on her drawing stream today uncontested... they're reclining..

>> No.16731885

>>16731848
It doesn't? on what are you basing this assumption? what other stream?

>> No.16731887

>>16731848
nice voodoo magic numbers

>> No.16731897

>>16731689
You have friend?

>> No.16731918

>>16731848
Gouda is fermenting fast.

>> No.16731919

>>16729161
Huh, yeah actually that's exactly I was talking about. I hadn't seen this clipped even in Japanese, might follow this channel if they clip the non-clipbait moments.

>> No.16731973

>>16731827
More streams.
More games.
More collabs.
NijiEN is doing better than HoloEN so far.
They can afford what audience wants and i respect them.

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Same thing in Polka's stream
For those who think it's just a problem with Gura's connection

>> No.16731982

>>16731731
He is obviously samefagging but it is an obvious fact that Holo EN can't just rest on their laurels and assume they'll be on top forever

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>>16731827
Yeah that screenshot proves it!

>> No.16731990

Gura's numbers just went back to 1 and went back 10k

>> No.16732022

Seeing the holoniggers seethe because they can't understand that the people that they got watching in the past moved on to watch other vtubers is extremely funny, just do the math, viewers don't spawn from nothing, you can probably correlate their recent loses with the recent niji incline

>> No.16732030

>>16731974
Why the dislike...

>> No.16732076

>>16732030
fuck Ark

>> No.16732092
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HoloEN - 14635
NijiEN - 14468
Holy shit NijiEN holding that 14k

>> No.16732094

>>16732022
But I mostly watch JP holos and the occasional nijiJP. Sadly my nijiwife is reclining.

>> No.16732120

>>16731002
>Council roommates
KEK this is the famous holol scouting process? Omegay better be fired for this.

>> No.16732126

>>16731846
It's hardly about making excuses for HoloEN, I wish they'd ramp up schedules too. It's more of who's tooting the flute that HoloENs are reclining being "mogged" by NijiEN, when in reality it's nijishitters making up incoherent stats like combining 10 of their 2k streams so it conveniently beats Gura's solo. They don't have a case at all and I'm not puttting up with this bullshit.

>> No.16732140

>>16732022
HoloEN are killing theirself,
please do more cancelled streams.
NijiEN are willing to take away Holo audience.

>> No.16732155

>>16731869
Yeah... things are looking not good for HoloEN the past week.
Too early to call it a recline just because of a few bad days, but the long unannounced breaks and dead hours probably hurt the excitement people had for their streams.

VODs are still solid for Gura at least, so there may be some CCV fuckery going on.

>> No.16732185

>>16732092
Top 2 holo en lol.

>> No.16732205

>>16732022
Just like the NijiEN homo viewers sprouted from the anals of china from nothing right? Oh wait...

>> No.16732224

So, more CCV shenanigans? Christ, I'm not even sure how to make heads or tails of this one but it's obvious youtube isn't done. They didn't fix the problem, they just unflagged a lot of accounts and made adjustments to the AI and it's going poorly.

>> No.16732234

>>16732126
Maybe more of them should fucking stream so Holo EN during primetime isn't just Gura solo then

>> No.16732238

>>16732155
>Too early to call it a recline
>when they lost all of their NY+outfit momentum
>not a single event in sight to boost them

>> No.16732255

>>16731885
NTA but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 14-15k at the very least. She actually has gotten some big bumps on the graph in activity and at glance people might point to her lows, but those lows are actually about the same lows Pekora got on her Ark stream that had 26k+ at all times.

I definitely don’t think this is a popular stream by any means don’t get me wrong, but considering EN/ID streamers + Haachama are like the only holo members who actively have more likes than ccv, it’s fair to say it’s /at least/ higher than shown

>> No.16732276

>>16732234
That I agree on of course. Fuck the shitters.

>> No.16732279

Did Gura j-just fall down 9k?

>> No.16732300

>>16732092
ah i see the niji strategy of beating holo in totals by spamming livers is making its way to the west

>> No.16732309

>>16732092
10 people and collab 14468
2 people 14638
The gap is still there,but Holo just fuck up.

>> No.16732325

Ame 5k now and still incline. Mooged???

>> No.16732371

>>16732325
Holy fuck ESL.
How are you not embarrassed?

>> No.16732381

>>16732300
If only one HoloEN, even Sana just flicked the switch to start streaming it wouldn't even be close. It's frustrating.

>> No.16732408

>>16732279
is fluctuation alot
>>16732325
a little to late for moggin or constant incline.
She wasmessing with the settingfor like the last hours AND just got everything to work ok.

>> No.16732411
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Yup, somethings happening.

>> No.16732421

>>16730727
Where are all the claims Niji EN were at best stagnating but are actually on the decline. Brushed off 7k total, then 8k, then 10k. Yet all of you insist Niji EN is on the way out. If you think the catalog has been getting bad over the past month, you haven't seen nothing yet when the next Niji male wave drops.

>> No.16732452

>>16732325
>All of nijien moged by ame apesex
roru roru

>> No.16732459

>>16732381
Please understand, streaming a game they like for 2 hours is very stressful and tiring work.

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SUB 10k HAHAHAHA

>> No.16732511

>>16732411
>that luca drop
interesting, the 1 drop happesn then returns and satrt declining.
Similar to gura at the beggining of ther stream.

>> No.16732512

>>16732094
Who is your nijiwife?

>> No.16732525

>>16732411
oh god don't tell me they're rolling out changes again

>> No.16732535

>>16732459
Just clone her dead dog anew for fucks sake.

>> No.16732559

>>16731689
smells like copypasta material to me. thanks anon

>> No.16732583

>>16732512
Lize, but it's ok Mito is doing big numbers with Judgement again to make up for it.

>> No.16732603

>>16732511
Polka kept on inclining but it could be just the ark buff outwighting the losses since she is alone.

>> No.16732619

>>16732583
Lize needs to do something other than Genshit

>> No.16732626

>>16732511
He inclined to almost 5k because he was the killer I believe.
Dropped back down after the round.

Andd Gura's game crashed.
She would unironically do better if she ditched the game and pivoted to doing a zatsu.

>> No.16732634

>>16732583
Why are you still watching those whores?

>> No.16732677

>>16732525
Of course they are. Why else would it be synching like that. Gura is getting hit the hardest but NijiEN and HoloJP aren't immune.

>> No.16732703

>HoloEN competent streamers
>can't have a single game working
t-they deserve their stuff guys....
they are not reclining...

>> No.16732713

>>16732459
Its a miracle Holo survived Taiwan yab year ago,and now they are committing suicide .kek

>> No.16732722

>>16732421
There's a next male wave? Jesus christ make it stop.

>> No.16732759

>>16732619
Yeah, I really like her story game streams. DQ3 was kino but I can't watch more than 30 seconds of Genshin.

>> No.16732818

>>16732459
I think a big part of it is laziness but I’m just gonna say, in defense of people like Ame or Mumei, and Mumei has definitely talked about this on stream before, but dealing with pets by yourself is absolutely a good reason for why people don’t stream at X hour. Some people might say cope but it comes off as people who haven’t had that personal responsibility.

I take care of 4 shepherds at my home and I often have 3 hour sessions of me playing ball outside with them until they’re tired. Mumei has specifically talked about this multiple times where she has to bring her dog to parks for hours and with Ame a common thing is hearing Bubba bark and pets getting antsy. Not saying this is every EN member but it’s honestly something to consider for why some holo members stream late. It’s probably when the pets are asleep and they don’t have more responsibilities to deal with.

>> No.16732834

>>16732713
They never should have caved anyway

>> No.16732859

>>16732619
Chink money is too big to ignore.

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Slightly off-topic, but this shit is one of the reasons why HoloEN is struggling.
Bitch Gura has streamed for only 1.5 hours.
Shut the fuck up retard.

>> No.16732922

>>16730657
Debut spam strategy finally paying off!

>> No.16732924

>>16732626
the decline happening after the drop is too convenient
but we will have to see.

>> No.16732929

>>16732862
Every streamer gets those dipshits though

>> No.16732951

>>16732834
They didnt,it was good.

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>>16732862
https://wesave.chat/user/UCAI9jw2JhjaQ0W0g9N_ruzw/

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>>16730834
>Shu
Lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVsfOSbJY0

>> No.16733100

>>16733039
>it's a fucking deadbeat
not surprised

>> No.16733137

New streams
New games
New collabs
HoloEN when?

>> No.16733158

>>16733039
I hate you for showing me this lol

>> No.16733182

>>16732722
With how Luxiem is more successful than all their previous waves it would be a squandered opportunity to not release another male wave. That coupled with the CCVs for each new wave continually rises to might as well ride that wave.

Is there a point of saturation? Yes, but they haven't hit that point right now.

>> No.16733190

>>16733039
>pissfag
>dadfag
>sleep police
I don't know which is worse

>> No.16733195

>>16732022
I dunno, at this point i'm sort of willing to see EN just burn. They've been totally unmotivated for quite a long time. I won't watch nijiEN, i'm not looking to watch mixed collabs, but I might just stick with HololiveJP. They sound motivated, and they sound happy when streaming, while I get none of that vibe from EN. They just aren't happy streaming. I don't why its so endemic, maybe its management rules?

>>16732713
? Hololive is just fine. JP is more successful than ever. EN is crumbling though.

>> No.16733200

>Gura pulled some discs in her back scooping out animal poop while doing volunteer work...

>> No.16733205

>>16732862
And people wonder why Gura hates greynames

>> No.16733274

>>16733200
Wrong thread sorry

>> No.16733288

>>16732818
the problem is that Myth got them used to the lazy life, I don't think any of them is able to give a solid advice to being an example holo, well maybe Ina, for example, only Mumei has valid excuses to not stream and yet she does
Sana is a fucking whore that shouldn't have applied, a literal wasted slot
Kronii is ok, needs motivation to actually stream, lost potential
Fauna is neutral, is like just there

>> No.16733306

>>16733039
You know what? After seeing this retardation I don't think it's entirely a bad idea to cull viewership based on chat spamming.

>> No.16733370

>>16733288
Needs a new gen like HoloX.

>> No.16733439

>>16733370
nothing is going to motivate them, they are a lost cause going on a downward spiral

>> No.16733464

>>16732818
Mumei specifically said she has to walk Animal both before and after her streams, and she’s also the one with an actual excuse because she’s a college student on top of being a pet owner, limiting her stream hours even further. Logically the girl who has to deal with coursework while spending hours exercising her pet shouldn’t be one of the more frequent streamers in the branch.

>> No.16733472

>>16732459
kek streaming is literally the easiest job in the world. They got paid to playing game and can't even being consistent about it.

>> No.16733479

>>16733195
HoloJp are somewhat in the same boat, just to a lesser degree, well at least my oshis are rather lacking in motivation. Ayame, Shion, Aqua won't stream solo much, Marine seems to be about sponsorships and colabs nowadays, while Pekora seems to be shafted by management. It's a jading experience being a fan of them.

>> No.16733541

>>16731918
Kek

>> No.16733546

The reason en is so lazy because i love replying to myself.

>> No.16733579

>>16733546
this is me btw

>> No.16733591

>>16732818
Ame has 2 dogs, 2 cats and some other animals iirc.

>> No.16733609

>>16733195
I never really supported HoloEN much so I am kinda enjoying this after their fans were asses for months. I don't watch NijiEN and I think the entire company is trash but I gotta hand it to them for at least working and being motivated. I don't know if the NijiEN females are inclining but at least they work. HoloEN just has nothing going on, barely anyone streams and there is a lack of enthusiasm. The scales won't fall from their eyes since they don't really give a shit about declining or inclining.

>> No.16733693

>>16733546
Samefagging is the norm on 4chan, not the outlier. Lurk more newfag.

>> No.16733782

Yeah nijiEn is not beating HoloEn but at this point I would want The niji to atleast smoke a fire on The Holo asses.
They are too fucking lazy its honestly baffling.We have 11 members but it doesnt feel like it and I dont know what would be able to motivate them except a bit of competition.

>> No.16733807

>>16733370
Holostars EN

>> No.16733808
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NijiEN 14391
HoloEN 13235
still holding that 14k

>> No.16733899

>>16733288
I know it’s easy to blame the members for this and it’s completely understandable why. I’ll agree with anyone that they can do more, but if you want my honest opinion, I think that unmotivated, lazy approach that gets harped on probably is like, 80% cover’s fault.

Like just look at the difference between gen 5 and myth. They debuted a month apart from eachother yet gen 5 is pushed to hell and back. They’re given endless sponsors, they practically live in the official holo channel with endless events, they appear on like every 3d live, song covers, 20 thousand accessories on outfits etc etc.

What do myth have? Default art poses when it takes literally 1 day for an artist to make a single dynamic pose to use instead. And then the obvious song covers that are released 5-6 months later like the matsuri gura one that was supposedly recording in October of 2020. Like, it’s really easy to stay motivated and have drive when your company is actively pushing you and giving you big incentives for it. You can always hear the frustration come out of myth when they have to talk about dealing with management bullshit and how they’re trying to just do shit themselves now

>> No.16733931

>Wake up
> nijiniggers talking shit as always
Microsoft pls buy nijiniggers and make them become trannies forever

>> No.16733955

>>16713131
>>16713312
Chii-chan hit Masters in Apex, big reason she got such good numbers.

>> No.16733966

>>16733807
No,they need more streaming than males

>> No.16734022

>>16733609
>>16733782
I don't know what to tell you but more competition isn't gonna motivate them lol. Do you think management whipping them to run in a race is gonna make them go any faster when they're already depressed as fuck? If anything their dropping numbers will make it easier for them to convince themselves to be even more lax, they've earned a lifetimes worth and more already.

>> No.16734043

>>16733899
>it's Cover's fault again
While I agree with some of your points, management really is the number one boogeyman.
Management I kneel.

>> No.16734072

>>16733955
solo?

>> No.16734101

>>16733899
>I will do nothing because they do nothing for me
>it's not enough that they pay me and very well at that, I want everything the other group gets
it sounds like feminists wanting an equal wage despite doing less work

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holoen reclining lmao losing views and sponsorship

>> No.16734166

>>16733899
This
>management pushed gen
>failures
>gen that management ignores
>massive success
That just proves that Myth don't need Cover to succeed

>> No.16734188

>>16734022
More gens then.

>> No.16734217

>>16734101
That goes the same for cover too. Someone has to have the faith to make something first.

>> No.16734225

>they need to stream more
it still amuse me how people keep trating youtube as if it was twitch. They dont need to stream a lot they just need to pull good coennt and keep doing music. The fromer being missing from some as SC readings,mariokart and pokemon have consumed the girls months. I agree there needs to be more collabs but also the Holo girls are more busy than nijigirls sicne they only have streaming unlike holos.

>> No.16734244

>>16734022
>. Do you think management whipping them to run in a race is gonna make them go any faster when they're already depressed as fuck?
No, I said explicitly that they don't care. I find it hard to care if if they don't.

>> No.16734274

>>16734101
Except the other group does less and get more.

>> No.16734299

>>16734144
This is just rotating companies for maximum exposure, SEA happens to be a prime target for gachashit.

>> No.16734315

>Nijinnigers ignoring ccvid 2020 and 2021 on holeEN meanwhile samefagging making long posts just talking lazy lazy and lazy.
Time to sleep until they take their meds again

>> No.16734388

>>16734274
not really, Myth has more outfits than other gens for example

>> No.16734393

>>16734043
Yeah I mean even on JP side you hear similar stories. Like both Nene and Pekora have talked about how they legitimately get nervous breakdowns hearing the discord sound because they know that means work. And Peko absoultely seems burnt out from dealing with hololive shit, with multiple cancellations and stuff.

Hell, you can probably look to gen 2 as another set of people sans Subaru who just seem over it. Like everyone wants to see Shion stream but how much longer is everyone going to put up with 4 streams a month and giant ass breaks. It just gets pushed aside because JP has like 30+ members and EN has 11 with close to half being in JP/AUS

>> No.16734406

>>16734244
That's my point, some anons seem to think that competition would put the passion back into HoloEN. Thing is, they don't care and won't care.

>> No.16734423

>>16734166
> Myth don't need Cover to succeed
They should all graduate then

>> No.16734474

Let's not pretend that ENs have never declined sponsorships before.
Gen 5 sponsorships are not 100% interchangeable with Myth sponsorships to begin with.

>> No.16734492

>>16734225
They even forget holofes and gura and ina on aqua concert but it's OK. Nijinniggers always like to denied everything and make lazy excuse as always.

>> No.16734536

>>16734225
HoloEN have no dance lessons for lives, barely do any corporate collabs, and the music output besides Mori/IRyS is not huge. It's obvious their priorities don't align with what we gauge as success. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Dunno, it's up to them.

>> No.16734568

>>16734144
Good

>> No.16734622

>>16734225
yeah quality or trending content is the way to gorwth in youtube.
I still think the girls should do more collabs but just spamming solo streams never helped nijiEN.
They needed to appeal to fujos to FINALLY grow in a meanningful way.

>> No.16734664

Cover apparently updated their L2D app today according to Gura.
I think this is the only time an EN talked about the app getting updated.

>> No.16734671

>>16733479
its true there are some HoloJP in the same boat, but there are talents that stream almost everyday, and at least it sounds like its because they like doing so. Pekora is shafted by management yes, but she likes streaming to Nousagi (or puts up a very convincing illusion). Miko likes streaming to 35p, and she is what someone who has genuine health issues but loves streaming actually looks like, not Ayame. There's also Lamy, Rushia, Botan, hell, Roboco, Mel, Choco stream often too even if they usually don't get the bigger numbers. quite a few more who I haven't mentioned. Its not like all of EN needs to be motivated, but without at least a few it becomes difficult to keep excitement.

>>16734022
It really depends what the reasons for the lack of motivation are. is it management restrictions? then something 'could' be done. is it lack of permissions for x game they really want? Maybe let the talents assume the risk of the strikes after all and let them play a wider list of games without superchats on, like niji.

I get the strong sense that management is the reason they are so unmotivated, but I can't point to anything concrete aside from the fact that lack of motivation is endemic. If it truly isn't management, and they have just lost their spark, then they're going to have to gamble on a new generation with less of a priority on streamer experience and more of a priority on motivation.

>> No.16734744

>>16734388
Gen 5 gets a lot of undeserved handouts while Myth gets almost nothing in comparison despite having done way more to make hololive popular, stop being a nijinigger

>> No.16734774

>>16734315
Damn, this post really changed my perspective on HoloEN as a whole, they are all hardworking females that deserve more!
>Ame still hasn't fixed her PC after almost 2 years
>Gura "came back" from unnanounced vacation, nothing is working for 3 days, won't stream tomorrow and probably won't be fixed
>Irys just delayed her stream 2 hours
Yeah! They are not lazy at all! It's all because of YT's fault!

>> No.16734783

>>16734474
I think the point is that gen 5 are essentially pseudo poster children for hololive with how frequent they’re advertised, when the “cruel” reality is that Gura has more subs than all 4 combined and is rewarded with song covers that were recorded half a year ago. Like it’s not meant to shame gen 5 at all but to bring light that more could absolutely be done for myth, you feel me

>> No.16734790

>>16734492
HoloEN aren't part of HoloFes.

>>16734671
>but I can't point to anything concrete aside from the fact that lack of motivation is endemic
No 3D models

>> No.16734810

>>16734536
>barely do any corporate collabs
they have participated in all of them.
Reagrding organizing them we had MK and now pokemon. Then we have all the collabs, events they do for holidays and shit.
NijiEN doesnt do that they do more casual collabs but they have no big events that gather all their branches their output of music is also less than all of EN. Ina, bae, mumei,kiara and soon korni will pull their own tracks. IWthout mention all the song collaboration gura has with both mori and other branches or sponsors.

>> No.16734827

>>16734664
probably after the lapras yab they decided to change something i guess

>> No.16734896

>>16734774
Hard to be motivated when the company doesn't care about you but keeps rewarding shittier holos, see
>>16733899
>>16734783

>> No.16734903

>>16734664
>today
i think it was yesterday

>> No.16734929

>>16734744
Gen5 has been putting work like crazy though, I wouldn't complain that they get more

>> No.16734940

>>16733808
>sub 10K streams
I can't jerk off to this

>> No.16734993

>>16734744
hololive doesnt need holoen, they were already the top vtuber brand in JP

>> No.16735008

>Actual youtube fuckery going on and ccv still get used as a reliable metric

Let me just laugh at how retard you guys are.

>> No.16735064

>>16734896
>this is what EN fans believe

>> No.16735076

>>16734929
>work for 10 hours
>still not as successful as someone working for only one hour
>we should totally reward the former
Retarded way to run a company

>> No.16735152

>>16735008
We still have stream hours, number of streams, and number of sponsorships to go on. I'm not making any judgements based on CCV since that's broken.

>> No.16735185

>>16735076
Welcome to Japanese corporate culture

>> No.16735198

>>16735008
Eh CCV is fucked, but Ame's VOD numbers for her stream is still going to be butt ugly.
The number of likes she got for today's stream is way below what she normally gets.
Teamates didn't show up today for her first stream in a week.

>> No.16735204
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16735204

>HoloENfags

>> No.16735205

>>16734896
>>16735076
>this company is not doing anything good for me
>I'm sure every other company treats them better
just leave lol

>> No.16735218

>>16734774

>Ame still hasn't fixed her PC after almost 2 years
She love her pc nijinniger
>Gura "came back" from unnanounced vacation, nothing is working for 3 days, won't stream tomorrow and probably won't be fixed
Nijinigger who don't watch schedule and post delusions as always
>Irys just delayed her stream 2 hours
Nothing wrong with that but is lazy for nijinniger standards unless you don't have live at all
>Yeah! They are not lazy at all! It's all because of YT's fault
Ignoring the ccvid nijinngers Lay's has this mental state of delusions

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>>16735204
https://twitter.com/kizaki707/status/1483982607100817408

>> No.16735346

So apparently cover just rolled out a new live2d app

>> No.16735376

>>16734929
Yeah but that brings up the topic again of how much of it is because they are genuine hard workers who want to put in the time and how much of it is because they’re being backed and pushed by hololive with actual rewards to go with it.

Like look at council debuts vs holox debuts as another example. Kronii and Mumei both debuted with teasers to songs, of which only 1 has been released and JUST got released 2 days ago after what, 5 months?

Holox debuts with 3 separate cover songs and an ochame kinou to go with it, and they’re STILL releasing covers (koyori and lui). Like you might say this is hard work but to me it just comes off as cover being way more receptive to helping and assisting the JP members with the push while EN has to wait and wait for shit to happen. It’s nothing against any members on either side, but just the issue of management I feel.

>> No.16735378

>>16733899
HoloENs have many events, sponsorships and recently new outfits (except for Irys). The only thing they don't have is 3D which is understandable because of Covid. Honestly they have no right to making excuses. Imagine streaming for over a year and still have to deal with technical problems or tummy hurts or schedule shits...It just implies that they are taking their job for granted.

>> No.16735384

yeah dude, just leave the shitters to die and give everything to the most successful ones, why give more help to the ones that need it more
fucking americans i swear

>> No.16735401
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16735401

>>16735218
Day one on both Ame and Gura, you can't tell me they are extremely lazy nigger, stop making excuses for them

>> No.16735403

>>16734783
cover owes gen 5 a big apology for debuting myth a one month later after their debut. most of their sponsors aside from the whole gen members sponsor do handpick who they want to sponsor, so almost all of their sponsors are deserved

>> No.16735404

>>16734774
>Thread has decent discussion
>Foaming nijinigger barges in to ruin everything
Always.

>> No.16735408

>>16735313
spam those CCVID pictures you guys collecting here.

>> No.16735411

>>16735198
>37k views
>7k like
is a 70k vod after dequeuing probably which is fine given it was her doing torubleshooting and and was disconecting everytime.

>> No.16735418

>>16734393
How fucking dare my employer asked me to work.

>> No.16735427

>>16734671
>It really depends what the reasons for the lack of motivation.
Because they have been Playing MC for a fucking whole year.Cover should have worked on game permissions.I am not blaming Cover for no Chink games,but they should have had Souls and MGS permissions.

>> No.16735434

>>16733931
Microsoft is more likely to buy cover to be honest

>> No.16735444

>>16734993
And gen 5 contributed to none of that and still don't while Myth is literally more popular in Japan than they are

>> No.16735523

>>16735401
Why are you posting a picture from a chumbud nijinigger

>> No.16735545

why are people seriously replying to gen 5 schizo

>> No.16735548

>>16734896
Even so they have themselves. My mother always told me that no one will ever care about you as much as you care about yourself. If this is what they want god bless them but if they don't like Cover I'm sure VSPO would hire them when they make their EN branch*.

*my delusion

>> No.16735562

>>16735403
Debuting just a month later is a handicap you retarded nijinigger, despite having a month's headstart gen 5 got so utterly mogged by Myth no one even remembers them anymore

>> No.16735573

>>16735376
how so? everyone knows that putting songs out there is like 80% of the talent, Cover doesn't do shit for them on that aspect, they only do stuff for their events

>> No.16735595

>>16735218
Please understand, They got nothing left, niji jp struggling to pass 10k mark nowdays.

>> No.16735607

>>16734744
Not gonna lie. I'm legit beginning to hate everything related to HoloJP. The company does NOTHING for EN despite how big they are. No wonder the girls are demotivated.

>> No.16735632

>>16735434
Cover private them so is impossible unless your are from inside

>> No.16735638

This thread is fucking full of shizos trying to push their owm agenda and narratives.

>> No.16735645

>>16735523
tell me a member post from Ame or Gura nigger, I'll post the picture

>> No.16735666

>>16735076
The former work harder than the latter, they know they don't have the same level of fame as the latter so they put in more hours.

>> No.16735673

>16735607
this honestly deserves to get touched by wojak poster

>> No.16735691

>>16735607
I hate Nijisanji but at least they don't reward the undeserving.

>> No.16735767

>>16735404
>>16735218
>Legitimate criticism of well known HoloEN issues that only a real fan would know
>NIJINIGGER NIJINIGGER NIJINIGGER
You people are part of the problem.

>> No.16735771

>>16735638
is the bad thing of the nijimales on this board.
brought more tourist that get upitty.

>> No.16735782

>>16734783
Sure let's ignore the fact that it is easier to get local sponsorship for holos who are lived in Japan (which most gen 5 sponsorships came from) than holos who lived around the world. And let's ignore that sponsors probably don't need advertising from EN Vtubers since the other company also doesn't get that much sponsorship.

>> No.16735820

>>16735666
>working hard is all that matters
>results don't matter
As expected of retarded Japanese corporate culture, no wonder everything they make gets mogged by Korean and Western products

>> No.16735835

thread is in full desperation mode that turn one schizo baiting into the main topic. not even about numbers anymore

>> No.16735846

mythniggers seething because sponsors left them for nijiEN. good job nijibros

>> No.16735898

>>16735767
Nijinniger are the problem. They just like the shit the thread like snoy spamming on nintendo threads with delusions

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16735905

>>16735523
tell me they are not lazy nigger, stop making excuses for them

>> No.16735917

>>16735376
Don’t forget how management pulled the plug on history streams and denied all of Mumei’s permissions requests, demoralizing her to the point where she spammed BotW streams until could muster the confidence to actually push for stuff again.

>> No.16735918

When did burger hours become more retarded than JP primetime.

>> No.16735948

>>16735782
It's harder, not impossible, Cover just don't want to put in the effort that Myth deserves so don't blame the girls when they don't put in any effort either.

>> No.16735990

>>16734393
Thing is HoloJP having to attend recording, dancing and singing lessons to prepare for 3D concerts, songs, covers..etc. They having ton of works outside streaming.
EN don't have that, the only thing they need to do is just streaming and they can't even commit with it.

>> No.16735993
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16735993

>holokeks

>> No.16736011

>>16735917
Mumei learned from Kiara and just started talking about history shit in the middle of a zatsu instead.

>> No.16736024

>>16735607
The fact that Gura can hang with HoloJP (she was #3 in CCV last year) despite no 3D events, no off collab opportunities, no trips to the studio, etc. is absolutely insane.

I'm tired of hearing about the meme virus. EN needs to get 3D immediately. Rent a studio in America and fly them all to the US if you are going to keep being so autistic about this meme virus you useless nips.

>> No.16736029

>>16735918
Maybe it's because burgers are posting

>> No.16736031

>>16735905
Why are you using your brother membership nijinniger this is sad

>> No.16736040

>>16735376
Anon, Cover doesn't pay for personal cover songs (except Ochame Kinou), but they give out budget for original song except the MV.

>> No.16736043

>You are a Nigger.
>No You're the nigger!
>NO You're THE NIGGER!!

The absolute state of /#/ discourse, Lmao.

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