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16710158 No.16710158 [Reply] [Original]

What a fucking downgrade. Why didn't just get Myth again for the 1st Anniversary.
https://www.twitter.com/priconne_en/status/1483846747021402114?cxt=HHwWhICjlaaw15cpAAAA

>> No.16710201

Bottom has more cunny. It's that simple.

>> No.16710211

>>16710158
>Why didn't just get Council for the 1st Anniversary?
Fixed
You know deep down Council is worse than NijiEN

>> No.16710254

Anycolor needs their scraps anon

>> No.16710263

>>16710211
Yeah which is why I asked why didn't they just get Myth again

>> No.16710277

>>16710158
I see what you are doing. It'll get lots of replies because this board is fill of retards and shitposters, but don't think it isn't obvious.

>> No.16710308

>>16710158
Holoen already booked to shill blue archive

>> No.16710375

>>16710158
It's simple. Myth become too big and they can't afford them anymore, so they settled for the cheaper alternative.

>> No.16710374

>>16710158
Why did they exclude Petra, Rosemi and Elira?

>> No.16710443

Over designed characters fits the style gacha mobile games are going for better.

In comparison, HoloEN look like bad cosplayers.

>> No.16710461

>>16710158
Couldn't afford HoloMyth's collab fees

>> No.16710528
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>>16710461
Audibly keked

>> No.16710545

>>16710158
This >>16710461
NijiEn probably did it for free

>> No.16710572

>>16710263
The marketing budget for a 1 year anniversary is surely a lot lower than launch.

>> No.16710578

>>16710545
Oh you know they did it for free, they need the attention.

>> No.16710581

>>16710158
Myth did such a shitty job the first time that they didn't want them again.

>> No.16710614

Im marketing perspective, doing it with council or myth again wont really reach much new people. Nijisanji make the most sense after vshojo.

>> No.16710652

>>16710461
Unironically true this time

>> No.16710691

>>16710614
Unless they added Hololive members into the game as gacha characters, it wouldn't make sense.

>> No.16710694

>>16710461
I thought collab fees are exclusively Niji's things?

>> No.16710704

>>16710461
Lmao

>> No.16710729

>>16710461
Epik

>> No.16710759

>>16710158
Big upgrade, especially from the failed Counsel branch

>> No.16710784

>>16710158
The fuck is Princess Connect?

>> No.16710812

>>16710759
Not it isn't you sperg. Maybe for a variety perspective but its more of a downgrade with these under 500k weak sauce chubbas

>> No.16710861

Omegatranny had something with this right?

>> No.16710925

>>16710201
>Bottom has more cunny
Who? They're flat but barely look lolis
>>16710374
True, they would like this

>> No.16710959

>>16710158
seethe harder op

>> No.16710973

NijiEN is teabagging on HoloEN now.

>> No.16710992

>nijis collab with game
>nijiniggers can't stop seething because hololive did it first
Rent free

>> No.16711043

>>16710158
Good. Myth is a rotting corpse and Cygames saw that.

>> No.16711077

>>16710308
But Nijis also got BA sponsorships?

>> No.16711083

Budget obviously

>> No.16711131

>>16710158
Nijis are 10x better at shilling games. Look at Finana and Mihoyo. Myth is a bunch of bored drunkards you have to drag at gunpoint to get your stream and even then they are going to fuck something up.

>Hi I'm Cortana!

>> No.16711134

>>16710158
>Why didn't just get Myth again for the 1st Anniversary.
Why are Tribalschizos ALWAYS ESL?

>> No.16711151

>>16710812
from an entertainment perspective too

>> No.16711156

>>16710158
>not picking the males
Under 1000 views streams incoming

>> No.16711167

>>16710158
they are also sponsoring the amazingly popular Crunchyroll Hime. Obviously budget is not an issue.

>> No.16711179

>>16710925
Enna and Millie definitely. Should've added Rosemi and Petra. Finana's just a midget woman

>> No.16711190

>>16711156
Petra had 2.5k on Arknights yesterday. Finana sometimes has 4k on Honkai.

>> No.16711223

>>16711167
Crunchyroll is the one paying for the sponsorships because they own a portion of Priconne

>> No.16711225

>>16710158
>not even the maletwinks
definitely on budget

>> No.16711228

>>16711167
EN is published by Crunchyroll why they fuck wouldn't they use their own employee?

>> No.16711241

>>16711156
I was gonna say something about how manly it will look Vox Akuma or Mista playing the princess game but I genuinely think thank they'll play it even without sponsorship

>> No.16711247 [DELETED] 

>>16711156
Of the males only Vox and Mysta are consistently more popular than Selen. Certainly when it comes to an english speaking audience

>> No.16711279

>>16711223
crunchyhime is a tiktoker who doesnt do anything for free, anonchama

>> No.16711302

>>16711156
Something something audience of nijien girls vs the boys, but honestly the only way I'd pay attention to this shit it they had vox or luca go full autism. I'm definitely not the target audience for this shit though. The girls shilling shitty gacha to retarded whales works better.

>> No.16711390

>>16710158
Holoen is dead
Ame is burnt out and hardly streams
Gura doesn't care
Kiara is dead... just dead. She has to cling to koreans to stay relevant
Mori is trying to concentrate all the hatred around herself.
Ina remained the most stable, but she also became worse than before.
Council hates their job

>> No.16711397

>>16711279
I'm implying Crunchyroll is paying her to shill it

>> No.16711416

>>16711156
Different audiences, priconne is 100% a waifufag game

>> No.16711430

>>16711247
Also 3/4 of their viewers are normie females and they don't play Priconne.

>> No.16711475

>>16711397
you could also pay your 2view intern to do it, but should you?

>> No.16711479

I think the males could've actually given a lot of attention because the women that watch them are the same ones who play EnStars, Sk8 etc... which would at least attract some of them to play Priconne
>>16711247
Luca's catching up

>> No.16711483

>>16711156
This post proves that nijiniggers are cancer and don't even know anything about the things they infest
Priconne is a cunny waifufag game you fucking retard
NijiEN was a bigger mistake than HoloEN

>> No.16711507

>>16710158
>they couldnt even afford all the 10 members of NijiEN

>> No.16711526

>>16710158
POMUCHADS WE WON

>> No.16711528

The boys should get Ensemble Stars sponsorship.
>>16711507
There's 15 NijiEN members now anon

>> No.16711537

>>16711528
twinks are not people

>> No.16711552

>>16711528
no there's 10

>> No.16711590

>>16711479
They play those games because they ship the pretty boys, the only male in priconne is your self insert avatar

>> No.16711619

>>16710158
The collab fees with Myth were too high.

>> No.16711629

>>16711479
What? This is a waifu game anon.

>> No.16711698

>>16711479
femoids were a mistake

>> No.16711992

>>16711629
You think girls don't like other pretty girls too?

>> No.16712051

>>16711992
not in high enough numbers to waste money to advertise to them

>> No.16712067

>>16711992
not the ones playing fujoshit

>> No.16712073

>>16710158
Spread out the audience you reach and it's a lot cheaper. Myth is mostly the same people who ere watching last year and Council has a heavy overlap with them. Niji EN has some overlap but they also have a decent amount of unique viewers.

>> No.16712130

>>16711479
This was likely in the works before they debuted, and people who play these waifu collector gachas don't give a shit about male vtubers, especially gay fujo-baiting ones. There are games with male characters but this is one of those "the only male in the entire universe is the personality-less player insert" types.

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>>16710158
Because the only one that did a semi decent job at shilling pricunny in HoloEN was octopus destination

>> No.16712275

>>16710158
NijiEn actually fits the esthetic better, fucking gacha shit designs lol

>> No.16712276

Holobros, why do we keep on losing? I thought we were better than Nijilosers. Was that all a lie??

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16712297

>no Rosemi

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16712308

>Holobros, why do we keep on losing? I thought we were better than Nijilosers. Was that all a lie??

>> No.16712320

>>16712297
Rosemi Leglock

>> No.16712322

>>16712297
if only he was here...

>> No.16712438

>>16712297
I first thought that was Todd Howard.

>> No.16712482

>>16711390
Why does this seem to be truth?

>> No.16712483

>>16712297
Damn is that Christopher Poole also known as M00t who was the founding father of 4chan?!

>> No.16712614

>>16712322
>>16712483
Who?

>> No.16712640

>>16712614
like hiroshimoot but with SOVL

>> No.16712662

>>16712614
the chosen one

>> No.16712701
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>>16712640
he was a luggage lad, glad to be rid of him, although i do miss ad free 4chin

>> No.16712729

>>16712614
You shitpost but I think we've reached the point in history of 4chan that I don't think people know who m00t really was

>> No.16712730

No wonder the 2nd season sucks now. They cheaped out. I bet it'll the same disaster as like what they did with Selen and Miku earlier before.

>>16712482
Because it isn't?

>> No.16712826

It's kind of funny to see NijiEN getting these same sponsorships HoloEN did after like Colorful Stage and Pricone after it was common at the start of NijiEN to claim that HoloEN got these kinds of sponsorships while NijiEN never would.

>> No.16712864

i think opchama is having a stroke

>> No.16712914

>Enna and Reimu
Nice
>No Petra
Gross
>PriConne
I'd sooner give Nexon money than CR.
In any case, even if just from appearances alone I feel the fantasy gacha vibes more from Niji more than I do from Holo. I don't feel like Selen fits, though.

>> No.16712919

>>16712826
NijiEN will never have a real pullable character in a real gacha unlike HoloJP

>> No.16712961

>>16712919
>Comparing HoloEN to NijiEN
>Suddenly brings in HoloJP

>> No.16713163

>>16712914
Has CR done any worse?
I mean, with Priconne

>> No.16713873

>>16710158
Jeez, anon. The answer is pretty obvious.
When you have a better option, you pick it. Simple business rule. They probably looked into numbers, saw this:
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
And calculated that NijiEN will be much better choice in prospect. Wise decision.

>> No.16713953

>>16712914
CR is actually one of the better English publisher if you actually check out their competitions

>> No.16713974

>>16711131
Finana is a shameless whore with a boyfriend

>> No.16714012

>>16710211
Myth > NijiEN >>>>>>>> Council

>> No.16714173

>>16711390
You described Holo EN almost perfectly.

No one really cares about Mori or Kiara, they can continue to rot. But...

If Gura cared about Hololive, Ame had more support and Ina stopped being a bitch HoloEN would do a lot better.

No hope for council, not now not ever

>> No.16714328

Myth is probably expensive to get now, especially if you want Gura to do a sponsorship stream with a sub count of 3.5+ million people? Where even Microsoft promotes Hololive now? Why bother when you can go a bit cheaper.

>> No.16714432

>>16710158
I think the best inter-company pairings look like this:

Gura -- Pomu
Mori -- Pomu
Ame -- Pomu
Kiara -- Finana
Ina -- Enna

>> No.16714468

>>16714432
I'll take IRyS with Enna for music collab and being shit at games together but entertaining

>> No.16714730

>>16710158
No more money for EN now that priconne is being mogged by cunny archive

>> No.16714761

>>16711077
And who got the sponsored song cover?

>> No.16714810

>>16711507
the four in the bottom are irrelevant. Trade them for Elira, add Finana if they have second thoughts. Pomu, Selen, and Elira is the best thing if they couldn't afford the male fags

>> No.16714834

>>16713974
Same as 90% of the girls in Hololive who cares?

>> No.16714843

>>16712073
this is the dumbest thing I've read

>> No.16714876

>>16714012
Early Myth maybe. Current Myth? Fuck no.

>> No.16714922

>>16712826
use punctuations fag

>> No.16714963

>>16712297
>doxxing Moot

Mods!!!!

>> No.16715132

>>16714876
when would you negrosanjifags ever learn that even the clock alone, a member of the Council that everyone despise, your whole division would get mugged? let's be real for once

>> No.16715913

I don't mean to tribalfag or shitpost but NijiEN is kind of a bad choice for sponsorship since most of the NijiEN fans are HoloEN fans and I don't think they willl bring in anything significant on the table.

Vshojo is a much better choice since they a very different audience.

>> No.16715954

>>16710158
Shilling is more effective when you have multiple messengers.

>> No.16716181

>>16715913
Nah, NijiEN is raping HoloEN in terms of superchats. I wouldn't be surprised if in terms of members and merch too, but we'll never get an accurate numbers on those. Also add HoloEN's massive recline, like a cherry on top. If you consider all of it, their decision to drop HoloEN looks pretty obvious and logical.
>Vshojo is a much better choice
Nah, that's straight up retarded

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>>16710158
HOLY SHIT LETS GO
Was playing mhrise all day didnt saw this thanks for the heads up

>> No.16716326

HoloEN is a dead branch where there is a high possibility of massive turnover this year.

>> No.16716680

>>16715913
I'm not sure how true that is anymore. I remember back when NijiEN was first starting out (Waves 1 and 2) that whenever a HoloEN stream started, the viewership of NijiEN a NijiEN stream would have a noticeable drop, but I don't really see that happening these days (at least among the bigger NijiEN talents).

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>>16715132

Grandpa it's 2022.

>> No.16716733

>>16710158
Myth is probably way too expensive to get for sponsorships at this point. IRyS would be a no brainer if they wanted someone to do a cover like last year, but her fees are probably astronomical. And good luck getting Council to do more than the bare minimum.
Meanwhile NijiEN is hungry for growth, especially the girls. They have plenty of decent singers (Ethyria is basically an utaite wave). And if CR wants to do any collabs with Crunchyroll-hime, then the NijiENs will be more than happy to, compared to Myth who'd shy away from it.

>> No.16716780

>>16715132
Only thing HoloEN still has are raw views bloated by redditors who watch 10 minutes of a stream and fuck off. NijiEN wins in superchats, quality, number of streams, hours streamed, collabs and now sponsorships too.

>> No.16716858

>>16716733
>Meanwhile NijiEN is hungry for growth

Millie was recently talking how she has more money than she knows how to spend so she started doing charities. NijiEN is already an established brand.

>> No.16717060

>>16710158
Wonder why they would downgrade their sponsorship so much and go with discount Hololive. Is priconne reclining?

>> No.16717239

>>16716780
Hey bro that's not fair, IRyS, Baelz and Mori are the only holoens who have an actual schedule and stream as often as possible- it's basically 2 on 16, since the rest of them stream like once a week.

>> No.16717300

>>16716710
Christian church vtuber when? Also holy fuck matsuri can do no wrong in the eyes of her fans, months of decline only to pull back from the brink merely by lying low and getting collabs with the new girls. Simps really are something else.

>> No.16717402

>>16716858
>started doing charities
Based witch

>> No.16717430

>>16710158
This is like going from a sponsorship deal with WWE to a sponsorship deal with Impact Wrestling. LMAO

>> No.16717470

HOLOEN RECLINING LMAO

>> No.16717594

>>16717060
They even went with a majority of discount nijigirls, so yes, priconne is reclining

>> No.16717887

>>16717594
Shame since the game is cute and I like cute things. Wonder if they can bounce back from this lowly state.

>> No.16717951

>>16710158
Do you know what Nijisanji EN stands for? Nijisanji Envy kek.

>> No.16718084

>>16710158
The girls of NijishittyEN are literally Hololive rejects and now they are lapping up the scraps of old Hololive sponsorships.

Just close the NijishittyEN branch already.

>> No.16718112 [DELETED] 

>>16717951
Nijiniggers BTFO

>> No.16718130

>>16717951
Holobros...

>> No.16718180

>>16710461
>collab fees
rrats???

>> No.16718296

>>16716780
They stream more sure, but they are nowhere near the average quality of HoloEN. They are perfectly decent in their own rights, you don't need to make retarded comparisons to overhype them it will only leave perspective viewers feeling lied to.

>> No.16718298

>>16718084
>takes the biggest sponsorship from the biggest vtuber group
>"s-s-s-scraps!"
holy holocope

>> No.16718424

>>16718084
this is the best cope in the thread

>> No.16718654

>>16718084
Too bad we have males now. Your argument is kaput. Captcha: M8M8W

>> No.16718690

>>16710158
No males, but I thought they're super popular like Myste-Rias, Vox-Akuma, Aids-Andy, Biggus-Fallus, Anal-Payne etc. what happened nijisisters I thought that's our future??

>> No.16718705

>>16710158
Wow
Council really is trash huh
Congrats nijien

>> No.16718791

>>16718654
Transfer them to NijiSEA since EN speaking regions certainly aren't watching them.

>> No.16718801

>>16718690
It's simple. The NijiEN girls will be taking the sponsors that previously went to HoloEN, while the NijiEN guys will be getting all-new sponsorships for things that sponsors wouldn't use girls for (a whole new sponsorship market). Sounds like a win-win for NijiCHADS

>> No.16718895

>>16718791
The absolute cope! Are you sad that Hololive EN didn't capture the western female audience?

>> No.16719036

>>16718895
they can't even capture the western male audience. HoloEN viewership across the board is dropping hard

>> No.16719192

>>16718801
Makes sense. Given Luxiem's large female viewerbase, I can see them getting sponsorships for otomegames, which wouldn't make sense for any EN female to shill to a predominately male viewbase.

>> No.16719284

>>16718895
>western females
LMAO, have you seen their numbers during North America prime time? The only people watching them are SEAniggers and JP tourists who will eventually move on.

>> No.16719391

>16719284
The holocope.

>They'll eventually move on.

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>Council schizo makes a thread and talks to himself over and over

>> No.16719449

>>16719391
You are already seeing it happen. Your "New Kuzuha" Mysta couldn't even break 4k during SEA time today. Really sad.

>> No.16719546

>>16719449
You know that is with the carrying Petra debuff applied and second part debuff. When Mystia does another solo stream we will see.

>> No.16719605

>>16716181
>NijiEN is raping HoloEN in terms of superchats

the Council alone total SCs mugged all of NegrosanjiEN gens, tf are you saying? or are you gonna to cope the recent week or two of SC where barely no one in HoloEN streamed?

>> No.16719718

>>16719605
And how do Holobros justify this? 11 members and barely any streams…

>> No.16719789

>>16719546
>MUH collab debuff
Holy COPE

>> No.16719871

>>16718296
The only thing blinding you about seeing HoloEN's stream quality is that they only stream once in a blue moon. You feel like every stream is special because of the scarcity

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>>16719718
>Barely any streams

>> No.16719914

>>16719886
Amazing week lads.

>> No.16719950

>>16719886
The same time loop of games... Yeah. Minecraft, Animal crossing, Mario, Super Hot.

>> No.16720102

>>16716780
>raw views bloated by redditors
bloated? everyone agreed that EN is being Susan'ed fag, when did you came out of your cave?
>superchats
your whole gen combined wouldn't even beat Ina's SC, or are you coping and based your logic to the couple of weeks where barely of HoloEN streamed? Nice data gathering fag
>quality
this made me laugh, VR and meme reviews, hmm I wonder where that came from
>number of streams, hours streamed, collabs
put those efforts more, they need it
>now sponsorships too
we all know why they go for NijiEN instead of even the Council, lets not even bring Myth into this discussion, stop kidding yourself

that's a lot of copium whew

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>>16719605
That's actually incorrect.
November SC:
Council+Irys = $94k
NijiEN 1-3 = $146k

December SC:
Council+Irys: $117k
NijiEN 1-3: $177k

And this isn't even counting the NijiEN males yet, who are making $2k+ a stream on average.

Unironically NijiEN superchats are going to destroy HoloEN this month.

AND this isn't even taking into account NijiEN's streamlabs, which adds in thousands more to their pile.

>> No.16720226

>>16720102
You see, if streamer doesn't stream they don't earn money. Shouldn't every day that they don't stream be marked as a 0 for the sake of the average?

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16720246

I think Xbox is better than Playstation! Those who disagree with me are wrong and should never enjoy what they like. Xbox for life!

>> No.16720259

>>16720190
this amount of cope is unreal

>> No.16720296

Anons who think Selen or Enna is fit for this is retarded. They are Zhangs. Enna despises anything gambling related since her mother is a pachinko addict so she avoids anything that has gambling to not be addicted too. Selen on the other hand doesnt even spend shit even on Apex unless absolutely necessary or out of spite, so she probably will only gacha the minimum shit.
Pomu is a wagie at heart so she doesnt spend shit on 2d. Finana and Millie are the only autistic spenders here that will probably able to promote the gachaing. Shame that the other autistic gacha addict which is Elira isnt included.

>> No.16720310

>>16720259
Where's the cope? I'm literally showing that NijiEN is making more superchats than Council (and I even included Irys as a bonus), which is what that guy was talking about.

>> No.16720321

>>16717402
did she really talk about money? now that's NijiEN alright, bragging about money with her 70k total SC (no cut) and 4m total VOD views, and whats more? a couple of sponsorship split between all of them kek

>> No.16720348

>>16720190
Who the hell is Millie and why is she mogging even 3/5 of HoloMyth in December. What did she do?

>> No.16720349

>>16720246
Xbros will have the last laugh when Microsoft buys Sony after they aquired EA, Ubisoft and Rockstar Games. One big, happy family.

>> No.16720392

>>16720102
>VR
Vshoujo and NijiCN. As a result, HoloVR is the most boring and cheap.
>meme reviews
Nijien didn't do that

>> No.16720512

>>16720296
Pomu is a fan of Priconne, even if she isn't a gacha whale. She's randomly whipped out her phone during stream to do her dailies since shortly after debut. Her being a fan and giving her free pulls on a sponsored account is a great sponsorship decision.

>> No.16720550

>>16720296
Feels like this was meant to be an Ethyria sponsorship but they threw in some others for whatever reason, maybe sweeten up the deal? Who knows.
It's weird to have Finana but not Elira and replacing her with Selen who hates gacha shit.

>> No.16720575

>>16720321
Are you retarded to switch words? She's not bragging, she's just a retailfag who doesnt know what to do with big money. She said on stream that she felt comfortable with her financial stuff so all membership profits go to different charities voted by members every month. She also said that at one point she was almost homeless and had nothing so she wanted to help people like her as much as she can.

I guess being abandoned and kicked out of the family does that too you.

>> No.16720637

>>16716858
She should save that money up, not all vtubing careers last a long time.

>> No.16720737

>>16713873
What do those percentages reference?

>> No.16720745

>>16720550
It feels like it's the other way around. Selen has the highest CCV of the NijiEN girls, Finana pulls in good numbers on (only) her gacha streams, and Pomu is a big Priconne fan. Those would be the three main sponsorships.
Meanwhile, Ethyria doesn't pull in good numbers, aren't gacha addicts, and don't know anything about the series (except maybe Millie?). Feels more that Ethyria was the bonus addon.

>> No.16720818

>>16720348
4 Birthday related, Christmas, New years and a pokemon shiny rerolling endurance stream seem to be the main bulk of it from a quick glance.

>> No.16721044

>>16712919
Yea and that event will never get re-run again or have a part 2 because of the dragon whore.

>> No.16721174

>>16720745
Nina has actual legitimate experience in the entertainment industry, she's one of the best qualified chuubas to shill purely because she'll treat it like a job.
Think Botan but russian and drunk(in regards to shilling, not gaming skills.)

>> No.16721355

>>16712919
Sometimes I wonder why no mobage dev ever thought "Why don't we ask Cover to put Myth in our game" and if they do what is holding them up.

>> No.16721403

>>16721355
Probably because the english branch is just a side project that just works as a way to promote the main japanese branch.

>> No.16721413

>>16721174
>but russian
So Botan

>> No.16721493

>>16721174
Is treating it like a job really a good thing? I admit, I have watched some shill streams, and the ones where the streamer is actually legitimately having fun (because it's a game they already enjoy, or it's something that is in line with their interests) do a much better job of selling the product than ones where the streamer is just doing their job requirement. To me, Nina isn't the type to legitimately get excited at waifu gacha. (if it was husbando gacha, I'd agree, she'd be the perfect one for that)

>> No.16721816

>>16721174
you sell yourself too hard, nina

>> No.16721836

>>16720259
Yeah. Yours.

>> No.16721919
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>>16720190
Start hoarding popcorn for the gazzilion Holocope threads when full month numbers are out.

HoloEN is unironically dead and buried.

>> No.16721953

>>16719886
>same games for the 100+ time

Amazing can't wait ha ha...

>> No.16722040

>>16710158
I find it funny that everyone isn't involved

>> No.16724346

>>16719871
So, they are literally getting nakirigumi'd

>> No.16724479

You really cant fault NijiEN for taking this one its free money,also any money that comes out of crunchyroll and doesnt go into that dogshit anime or political propaganda they're pushing is a good thing

>> No.16724559

>>16721919
only 7 years and they'll catch up to Kiara lmao

>> No.16724591

>>16720745
Selen's audience are less likely to gacha compared to Elira. Finana's fanbase are mostly gacha gamers and watch her primarily for gacha so she's the best fit for this job.

>> No.16724816 [DELETED] 

Mysta SC
NT$>$>Y>HK>other

>> No.16724997

>>16724559
Holocope-ter

>> No.16725069

>>16724559
Anon thats their superchat debut month. Thats literally the best they'll ever get

>> No.16725284

>>16710158
No enough budget to hire top idols

>> No.16725360

>>16725069
Vox has already made $40k in superchats in just this month of January, and the month isn't even over yet.

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>>16725069
>debut month
In the debut month, he earned 15192, and in January 40470

>> No.16725463

>>16721919
You realize that Gura got paid more to cover the Blue Archive song than all the superchats of all NijishittyEN members put together right?

HoloEN makes the real bucks off sponsorships and ad revenue. They don't need to whore themselves out and shark for superchats the way the NijiEN losers do. Mysta is already having a birthday celebration not even a month after his debut. Now THAT is truly pathetic.

>> No.16725602

>>16725463
Got an official source of how much she made?
And didn't HoloEN just lose a big sponsor to NijiEN? The real bucks are leaving to the real money makers now

>> No.16725739

Sorry but Myth is busy imploding.

>> No.16725888

>>16725463
they're coping anon. All they see are the recent months SC, but if you average their SC/stream, they're Mumei/Fauna, at best Baelz level, and that's their very best (the recent male fags and Pomu) kek

>> No.16726056

>>16725888
>coping
>holofag has to resort to RATIOS
I remember when holofags shit on niji for doing the same thing. Why the about-face?

>> No.16726374

>>16725602
>HoloEN just lose a big sponsor to NijiEN

big sponsor? kek if they were THAT big, they would get the recent Niji males, as they're the ones who're a hit rn, not Ethyria. They couldn't even afford Elira? Explain this and use common sense fags

>> No.16726483

Holocope-ter thread

>> No.16726549

>>16725463
>HoloEN makes the real bucks off sponsorships and ad revenue.
>They don't need to whore themselves out
Sponsored streams ARE whoring out. You're literally chilling for a product that you wouldn't play or talk about if you're not getting paid to.

>> No.16726727

>>16726374
The sponsor deal was signed before the male debut. After seeing how many viewers and how much money they're making, sponsors will start asking for the Niki boys to sponsor too.

>> No.16726826

>>16712919
What's that sound? Sounds like goalposts being moved

>Comparing to HoloJP
KEK, at least you are self-aware that HoloEN is just as hopeless

>> No.16726836

The amount of holocope in this thread.
>HoloEN don't need superchat sponsors are the real money
>in a thread about NijiEN taking HoloENs sponsorship off of them

>> No.16726891

>>16726727
that doesnt explain the Elira situation though, and who's the biggest nijiEN female??? if they can't afford Elira, good luck trying to fetch Myth

>> No.16726966

>>16713974
>with a boyfriend
Baby shark doo doo doo

>> No.16726990

>>16726549
There is a difference when it comes to providing a service to an advertiser by streaming their game. Its actual contracted work. NijiEN on the other hand is basically a group of vtubing DarksydePhils shamelessly begging for money everyday.

>> No.16727137

>>16726891
Elira did a sponsor stream for a different game recently, so they didn't include her in this sponsorship deal

>> No.16727205

>>16726836
the real cope are you niggersanjis. Trying to insert superchats in a battle on who to chose to sponsor, like corpo even care about that. All corpo wants are exposure, live viewership and vod views, and don't even try to /#/ fag here, as we all know that the shark alone beat majority of your gens combined, live viewership-wise and especially in VOD views

>> No.16727303

>>16726990
Actually streaming is considered "whoring out" now? Is that the new holocope for why their girls hardly ever stream?

>> No.16727345

>>16727137
as if Priconne cares if she did a recent sponsorship with others. Just admit it, they cant afford Elira

>> No.16727381

>>16727205
It's just funny to see you going on about how superchats don't matter and sponsors are important as a defense of HoloEN when the entire premise of the thread we are in is that Hololive just lost a major sponsorship to Nijisanji.

>> No.16727497

actual question. in these situations, is cover getting paid for allowing the game to use their IP, or is the game being paid for advertising cover's talent?

>> No.16727622

>>16727205
corpos want to advertise to individuals who are willing to spend money on their product. when they look at HoloEN, they'll see large viewership, but people who don't have money (poor superchats). when they look at NijiEN, they see people with plenty of money to spare (high superchats)

>> No.16727846

>>16726990
>Its actual contracted work.
So if a vtuber signs a contract to sell their body, they're not whoring out? If anything, making a contract is the proof they are.
This has nothing to do with the quality of the stream since sometimes a good shill is better than someone that actually like the product, but getting paid to advertise a product that you wouldn't otherwise is whoring out.

>> No.16727923

>>16727622
b..but holoen dominate you both? hmmm

>> No.16728266

Didnt the collab with HoloEN include a song or something. If they are not doing this for 1-year anni then it does seem like cheaping out. Saying that as someone who only watches nijisanji

Anyway its pretty funny seeing Holofags switching back and forth on whether they think taking sponsors is whoring or not now that it's not their idols doing it LMAO

>> No.16728455

>>16710158
Petra gone

>> No.16729398

>>16719789
Kek, what a dumbass

>> No.16729555

>>16727345
i cant imagine getting elira to be astronomical compared to the rest, like just drop two of them and they can probably get elira.

>> No.16733029

No Rosemi, no play.

>> No.16733551

https://twitter.com/KaguraHikari4/status/1483916901227110401

>> No.16734340

>>16716710
Pastor Jerry, I KNEEL

>> No.16735432

>>16727846
Whoring is selling sex. Anything else is metaphorical stretching. I know I'm stating the obvious but unicorns have infested this board with parasocial losers with unironic cuck anxiety fantasies and anons need a reality check.

>> No.16735534

>>16717300
https://twitter.com/prayersfromabi/status/1483524338510966784?t=A-1LYPzoLPt8qK1LdCNdtQ&s=19

>> No.16738061

>>16725416
Seriously what the fuck did he do?

>> No.16738415
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>>16720102
So many Vtubers do VR. In fact there will probably be a small corpo VR collab coming this Saturday. Not only that but I've already watched indies do VR Chat before Holo EN did it.

The holofan base is losing ground on this board to everyone else, and other vtubers outside of Hololive EN are growing. For some reason Holofans are irrationally spiteful towards this, and the heat Holofans experience are well deserved.

>> No.16738424

>>16738061
He has a deep voice and heavily panders to horny women

>> No.16738495

>>16725069
They should rename /vt/ Holocope.

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presented without comment

>> No.16739420

Any shotas in this game?

>> No.16739756

>>16720348
Adopting flips that she constant bully on her debut.

>> No.16742433

This was the best shill stream in vtubing history. No wonder they ditched pathetic Myth streams for this. Like holy shit it's 100x better.

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>stream was so good Holofags are silent like corpses

>> No.16742794

Well, that was a failure. Only broke 2k once and never recovered. I thought the point of a sponsorship was to get as many eyes on it. Might as well get an indie at this point.

>> No.16742959

>>16742794
Better to advertise to a smaller group that has money to spend, than a larger group that has no money

>> No.16743137

>>16742794
Faggot HoloEN shill streams were hilariously shit nobody picked the game after that joke. This one was great. Actually played and finished the event, had fun, great banter and a lot of funny moments.

>> No.16743327

>>16742794
Why lie like this? It was 2.5k for half of the stream. And they are still going after over 2h.

>> No.16743435

watching the enna + reimu stream for only 10 minutes makes you realize how infinitely much more soul the nijis pour into the streams compared to the souless priconne promos myth did last year.

>> No.16743554

>>16743435
This is true for most of their streams. Myth is soulless as fuck. I blame it on terrible EN management draining their energy.

>> No.16745238

>>16710694
>>16718180
Do you guys really think Myth doesn't charge collab fees? They're absolutely getting paid to do this and much less than Myth. Not a single influencer would do this for free, even from Cygames.

>> No.16745475

From someone who watched last year's
Ina Priconne shill stream > Enna/Reimu > Kiara > Calli > Ame >>>>> Gura

>> No.16745704

>>16745475
Ina was just drawing with autobattler in the background. Yes it was much better than other Myth streams but it sure as hell wasn't as fun as this one.

>> No.16746558

>>16713953
They fucking gutted DanMachi Memoria Freese

>> No.16746729

>>16715913
Any waifu gacha collating with vshojo will get reviewbombed

>> No.16746822

>>16746558
exception and it was their first game, Priconne and all the games after were handled better. probably partly because of Cygames supervising them but you really can't say they are worse than Nexon.

>> No.16746904

>>16712614
Chris Zuckerberg, Mark's brother and founder of 9gag

>> No.16747276

pretty simple
crunchyroll came to hololive offering the same cash as before
but holoEN is bigger now so they will only do it for way more cash
CR give up on holoEN and seek their closest competitor
now we nijikeks suffer as the Friday13th collab was cut short because of this garbage game

>> No.16747338

its simple, nijiEN is just more more fun

>> No.16747449

>>16747276
Nothing was cut short, they continued playing even after the sponsored stream started.

>> No.16747638

>>16746822
Cope. They are far worse than most gacha publishers and their only failure to fuck up happens when they're not allowed any say, because Cygames has them by the balls with Priconne.
Not coincidentally, Cygames went with Kakao for World Flipper.
Meanwhile Crunchyroll publishes fucking Starsteel Fantasy, which is worse than flash browser games. CR is horrendous and nobody wants to trust or deal with them.

>> No.16747741

>>16747449
both shu and luca shilled the sponsored stream and not did much of zatsu after they cut off
pomu even wanted to make the last one a quick match
they are clearly instructed to not stream during the sponsor stream

>> No.16748020

>>16747741
Superchat readings aren't part of the collab. And if they didn't want to overlap, they wouldn't have started a new game 10 minutes before the shill stream, they would have ended it.

>> No.16748115

>>16747638
Or maybe because no one wants World Flipper? Compared to Priconne no one realizes it even exists lmao.

>> No.16748336

HoloEN game sponsorship

>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage, Phantasy Star Online 2, Yakuza: Like a Dragon, Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 (Sega(Japan))
>Scarlet Nexus, Tales series, Taiko (Bandai Namco(Japan))
>Groove Coaster, Touhou Spell Bubble (Taito(Japan))
>BanG Dream! Girls Band Party!, D4DJ Groovy Mix (Bushiroad(Japan))
>Monster Hunter Rise (Capcom(Japan))
>Nier Re[in]carnation (Square Enix(Japan))
>Shadowverse(Cygames (Japan))
>Shin Megami Tensei V (Atlus(Japan))
>Bleach: Brave Souls (KLab Games(Japan))
>Another Eden (Wright Flyer Studios(Japan))
>Cookie Run: Kingdom (Devsisters(Korea))
>Blue Archive (Nexon(Korea))
>Eternal Return (Kakao Games(Korea))
>Core (Manticore Games (USA))
>Princess Connect (Crunchyroll(USA))
>Rocket League Sideswipe (Psyonix(USA))
>They Bleed Pixels (Spooky Squid Games(Canada))

japan: 10
korea: 3
usa: 3
canada: 1

NijiEN game sponsorship

>Hatsune Miku: Colorful Stage (Sega(Japan))
>Blue Archive (Nexon(Korea))
>Alchemy Stars (Tencent(China))
>Pronty (CE-Asia(China))
>Onmyoji (NetEase(China))
>Princess Connect (Crunchyroll(USA)) NEW!

china: 3
korea: 1
japan: 1
usa: 1

>> No.16748979

>>16747276
>but holoEN is bigger now so they will only do it for way more cash
>bigger now
roru
roru
rumao

>> No.16749210

>>16710461
This. It was Enna and Reimu's first sponsored stream too, which means it would be cheaper than HoloEN or even like NijiEN gen 1.

>> No.16750791

>>16748115
You're deluded if you think Kakao was cheaper than CR, for Cygames to get as a publisher. They wanted nothing to do with CR anymore, and neither does anybody else, which is absolutely worse than even NEXON, and their reputation is so bad, the Kr branch had to take BA Global into their own hands, because not even Nexon KR wants to deal with Nexon NA, that's how bad they are.
And CR still manages to be worse in devs' eyes. Starsteel fucking Fantasy.

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