/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16709790
they're all black companies ESPECIALLY nijiEN who go out of their way to block collabs and even forbade pomu from doing vr because a fanmade model mogged the official one

>>16709790
Most small corpos on this board arent black companies. If you want specifics on girls ask the generals. There's probably something for you.

>>16709790
Tell us what kind of content you want if you want recommendations

Prism is good, avoid the rest.

>>16709790
I think the small corpos are still led by some version of Asian, anon.

>>16710003
I like vidya autism. Talking about math or strategy or just on a deeper level than haha gun go brrr head go boom

>>16709790
I hope you realize the irony of asking which ones are black companies to avoid while posting that image.

>>16709790
they are all bad, as are indies or even big corpos. Only risu is good.

>>16709790
I like Prism and Tsunderia but the generals for both of them are fucking awful. It's like they attract the biggest schizos on the board who got filtered by Hololive and Nijisanji. I know grooming is a bit of a meme word around here but it does feel like there are people in those generals who think "Heh heh yes, this one only has 20 viewers, soon she will be mine." And I don't know anything about the others besides those two because after I subbed to a bunch of them I realized, damn, I do not have the fucking time for even more companies. I'm sure there are some good ones out there but at some point I have to ignore the rest so I don't get overwhelmed.

>>16710736
no, the problem is concern and moralfagging retards like you who write essays in those generals.

i tried doing reps for pippa and it just came out with dogshit essays from all the phase generals

>>16709790
You mean like, from a "I want to audition" perspective or a viewer perspective? If you're looking to audition then avoid Prism and Kawaii unless you like the members. If you're a viewer then they're all good. From the ones I watch, Tsunderia gives off zoomer shitposter vibes, Kawaii does the most GFE, and Prism girls do mostly whatever the fuck they want.

>>16710902
I don't post in the generals so nice try retard. But yeah I bet you're part of the problem, you're one of those people who happily doxxes the hell out of those small corpos because you think nobody's paying attention and you can get away with it. Yeah, imagine suggesting that having morals is a bad thing.

>>16709790
Kawaii has the best waifu

>>16709790
Really good - Prism
Good - Phase Connect (except for Pippa)
Decent - CyberLive

>>16711801
>doxxing is le bad
go back, redditor

>>16709790
There's a lot less consistent branding than HoloEN or NijiEN. It's more like Niji JP where seemingly anyone gets in and you have idol types next to shitposters. The company generals all express this disconnect by being full of hatred and disdain for other members of the company, which is why most viewers from here rarely post in them.

>>16713284
>doxxing is le cool amirite fellow 4channelers?
You must be 18 or above to post here

I really like Prism. Unfortunately my favorite talent Sumi is graduating in 2 days

>>16710736
>liking Tsunderia but not trying to groom the males

>>16714708
who the fuck would want to groom a man?

>>16714535
She's going back to her PL, will you follow her back to twoview town?

>>16710736
I browsed a couple of threads back for prism and tsun, and aside from a retard schizo argument about nazis I don't see what's different from that and any other general

>>16710388
I'm interested too, bumping this

Since the Tsunderia general just died from bump limit, I'll give you the QRD:
They're the oldest western VTuber agency. I like to call them quality on a budget because they have the lowest starting capital of all the startups, but they deliver content at or above the competition. Launched and released Kamiko Kana, and both parties are better off for it. Lost Kirihime Ria to Niji's 2nd EN wave. Their remaining chuubas can be broken down into 4 categories.
1) Staff: Char and Urara
2) Singers/producers: Purin, Miori, Hanabi, Lisa, Tomoya, Amiya, Kazune
3) Gamers. Kallin, Meru (Purin and Kazune also fit here)
4) Zatsudan. Orla, Yuuna, Nen (Char and Urara also fit here when they actually stream)

>>16715629
aren't they shady as fuck though

>>16709790
Tsunderia is literally a black company
Prism is what Vshojo would've been if they were on youtube
Phase connect is 2view groomer central along with cyberlive

>>16715717
What about Tsunderia is shady to you?

Theres only answer.

>>16715717
Not at all. They desperately need more staff and maybe an investor or two, but every single VTuber on their roster has publicly praised the company and its management
>>16715870
Not black. Asian. Important difference

>>16716028
If they didnt have graduated talents proving you wrong maybe you'd be able to convince someone.

>>16716056
Kana is the bad kind of schizo and the rrat got a better offer from Niji. What's your point?

>>16716131
And that gives you the right to harass her while forcing everyone else to ignore it or you'll kick them out?

>>16709790
As long as you ignore pic related you really cant go wrong with indies.

>>16716218
Get off this board and some rest, Kana. You've got a redebut to prepare for

>>16715977
Horrible chuuba that doesn't even stream.

>>16711801
no i don't go inside generals. i just shitpost on catalog, as any non-schizo does on this board

>>16715717
They’re the least shady company on the scene by any metric. They just get a bad rap because Rosebuds are insane

>>16709872
>small corps
>NijiEN
fuck off Nijikek

Prism seems the most suspect because of major complaints from Yura and the graduation of one of their new gens only a couple months after debut

Kawaii is in a similar position, with Hana Flores graduating pretty quickly, but they at least have a few power streamers(Mainly Nene) who are carrying the company and leading their own charge. Probably the most GFE corpo.

Phase is a bunch of wildcards; can't comment on them too much, but their EN crew is all fun at least. Pippa is well-known here while Tenma is making a name for herself on Twitch.

Tsunderia seems to be the most "JP-like" of the western ones; focusing on music, treating their talents as idols almost, but still allowing males(and LGBT) talents in the same group as their females. Don't watch them much, but I like Lisa at least.

CyberLive is by far the best corpo. They offer very good terms and as a result have a pick of high quality talents for gen 2. Gen 1 was scuffed at first but both Lumi & Yuri have proven to be very good entertainers, while Pandora is more traditional idol vtuber & Seina panders to ESP fans. hylo....

>>16716845
For real, I never got the manufactured animosity after her Niji debut. /tsun/ and kusodachis were surprised but happy for her from what I saw. Damn shame that her model is effectively dead. That design was A+ tier

>>16712540
Ignore this. Pippa is the best if you want a vtuber you can actually talk to about board culture or lolcows. That filters some people, but I like a Chuuba that’s open that she comes here. It’s the opposite of cringe where she pretends she doesn’t visit like Mori, but obviously visits.

What about small corpos that don't have generals on this board? Or are they too obscure?

>>16717708
Like who? All of the small corpos are JP and everyone else in EN are in /wvt/

>>16717708
I can think of a handful. Heavenrend, 4VLive, MyHoloTV. I like Haruna in Heavenrend and the new wolfgirl debuting for 4V checks all my boxes (if her voice is any good I might saviorfag), but I stay away from MyHolo. That business with their first 2nd generation is shady as fuck. There are a ton of legitimate reasons why a company would graduate a chuuba, but to graduate an entire generation that makes up 75% of your total chuubas? That reeks of corruption

>>16709790
avoid CyberLive, rest are fine

>>16717929
Myholo was just trying to ride the hololive bandwagon
They even stole the logo

Chipi is cute
Tsunderia girls are to protecc
Schizo Snow Leopard of cyberlife will forcefeed you meds

>>16709790
They each have 1 "big" chuuba in their company and the rest are just kinda there. Kinda parallels to the big corporations in that way.

If you like GFE and No Males Kawaii would probably appeal to you, although to my knowledge all of these groups are just girls alone (except Tsun of of course) and they probably limit guy collabs.

>>16715717
Nah, just pozzed.

>>16717640
Mori doesn't come here

>>16714827
>who the fuck would want to groom a man?
Women. Women do.

If a woman ever says "I don't want to date you, I just want to have you be a close friend cause you're a safe space for me" (or some other BS that's similar to it) that's her telling you she's about to go get fucked til kingdom come and will use you as the 'settle down' option if she doesn't come out of it knocked up at age 30 (and sometimes that doesn't stop them).

I love my wife Menace's corpo!

>>16709790
If you're coming from the Holobubble, you might as well stay in there. There's nothing for you out here in the wilderness.

Tsunderia is good
Prism is good
Phase connect is good
Kawaii is decent

Black companies:
Cyberlive
Amberglow
Hololive

>>16710736
Wait you don’t realize those are all jokes do you just lurk in those threads?

>>16715717
Tsunderia isn’t shady they’re incompetent and fucking stupid that’s pretty much it the slug doesn’t know what shes doing but since she slobbers I give her a pass.

>>16716889
>Tsunderia seems to be the most "jp-like" focusing on music, treating their talents as idols almost
Prism takes this title tbdesu. Before their most recent gen they were almost entirely focused on presenting themselves as an idol group. See https://youtu.be/O632JhrCwVg , along with the numerous other covers they have across 8 of their 9 pre gen4 talents.

adding to this, Prism deliberately follows the holo model for many of their policies. Many of which make 0 sense for a small corpo.
>Fan interaction is strictly regulated. Many of the talents expressed wishes to do more interactive streams where they play games with viewers, but are explicitly forbidden to, even when they don't have membership open
>Membership was gated to an arbitrary 30k sub count number, which changed to 15k sub count, and that was only after an organized fan effort pushing for removing the gate entirely.
>1:1 male collabs are not allowed
>50% cut of all donations
>talents are expected to pay for all costs of covers despite management encouraging them to produce more music content
>0 advertising

>>16709872
>pomu
It's okay, one day she will come home

>>16716338
What's wrong with them?

>>16719632
Some real black company shit.

>>16718718
>look up her channel
>blade runner watch along
uhhhhh.... care to explain?

>>16719820
She loves Ryan Gosling(me)

>>16717640
Pippa is a grifter and a fraud. Fuck her and fuck her pandering.

>>16719798
Anon, that wasn't their fault at least for the second gen. They got terminated (meaning they broke the rules bad) for literal sabotage and basically corporate espionage.

>>16720953
>literal sabotage and basically corporate espionage.
Elaborate.

>>16720953
That excuse could fly with 1 person, not 7

phase is really amazing if you avoid the pink drama rabbit

>>16713284
just as expected, pippafag

>>16710388
Sounds like you should watch Sana from Hololive play Pokemon or talk about (astro)physics

I only know about Lumi from Cyberlive among the smaller corpos. She does great strategy game streams sometimes

>>16716845
Roseschizos have no reservations shitting on Tsunderia. Obsydia spawn two terrible fan bases, rosebuds and dragoons. Pentomos are fine, but they are obviously the outcasts of the Gen.

Hololive. We are small indie company.

>>16716889
>fuck off Nijikek
It's an obvious Holobronie making a snide remark that Niji EN is on the same level of success as all the other EN small corpos.

Holodrones don't want a vtuber community, hence why they continually stay within their Holo bubble most of the time. Holo EN is trying to actively sabotage the EN vtuber scene.

>>16719906
is she here?

>>16719906

>>16717640
Pippa is fucking shit, a complete lunatic menhera constantly throwing pity parties for herself, she's a kiwifag AND a /here/ fag to boot, and TWICE she's been slapped by management for saying retarded shit about much bigger chuubas and corpos than her.

She's this tiny yappy dog constantly trying to punch above her weight, then she cries to her fans when it blows up in her face, pippa fags also ruined the PC general since it was just nonstop pippa talk for months.

>>16710388
You should enjoy Kaneko Lumi then. Very nerdy, loves strategy games, loves talking about history and geography and going into different topics like physics and etc. She's having a stream tonight visiting a country and talking about the history and the sights in it as a guide.

>>16721254
>>16721318
The ones that say "retired" did so with actual graduations, I think one of them for health reasons.

The ones that say "terminated" literally breached contract in some way, with at least two of them being involved with deleting data from their servers including stuff regarding upcoming members. I think one of the four got terminated for "health reasons" but that makes me think that she got knocked up or something.

>>16722165
Yes used to be /wvt/

>>16716688
Please be nice, she is trying her best

>>16716889
>major complaints from Yura and the graduation of one of their new gens only a couple months after debut
People forget that Yura recently changed her turn about management saying how much she loved it.

Sumi deciding to graduate after a month is fucking weird tho, but she never said why she is so who knows

>>16719305
Slug is probably the only reason the company hasn't already gone under. If she hadn't joined when she did and it was still just the CEO and Char running things then Tsunderia probably wouldn't even have gotten through its first year.

>>16717929
There's probably a lot that happened behind the scenes but from what I've skimmed from what Miori has said in an AMA, MyHolo was too restrictive of the songs she could sing and also things she could say (like she wasn't allowed to swear).

>>16722928
yeah Slug had to explain budgeting to Char and tell her that she cant just straight up buy things at full price using the company budget. How insane is that?

>>16722565
that's alarming. is she a whore?

>>16722354
Sorry anon but objectively speaking PC has only had a long lasting general because of pippa.

>>16722415
Sorry corpocuck but you cant convince me that 7people just straight up came to a group and all decided "lets all fuck them up for no reason"
It just isnt happening

>>16717640
This. I really like Pippa since she reminds me of those pre-2020 chuubas with an edgy comedic veneer in their brand. Newfags will never experience chuubas joking about the homeless in current year. With all that being said, she really needs to fix that EOP problem of hers. Learn some basic Japanese you woman

>>16717708
>>16717929
Thoughts on a general for all small corpos without generals?

>>16709872
>nijiEN who go out of their way to block collabs
They don't block collabs but the fee is VERY high.

>>16724268
already exists
>>16688125
>>16701630
>>16720944
>>>/trash/44873546

>>16723495
i bet you cheered when lamy and co made fun of janitors

>>16719798
Not to mention Laila https://twitter.com/WACTOR_maidchan/status/1464965589118509057

>>16723075
she's in the group that debuted with escort services

>>16709790
I only watch Yuria from Prism and Ami and Kazu from Tsunderia.
From some observation, Prism is HoloEN lite, Tsunderia is Holo/nijiEN lite (They have 2 MALES), phase connect has a schizo in the same circle as Jim aka Mister Metokur, Kawaii is like holoEN if the leaned into GFE hard, and cyberlive I only know of them because their YAB with the donation girlfriend for a day tiers that got backpedaled hard.
There's also Amber glow which is dead as fuck and technically was the first western corpo to have males, but calling them a corpo is being extremely generous.

>>16724355
too indie, I am only interested in corporate slaves

>>16724268
I would love to talk about zero project and code zodiac and neo rad

>>16724268
Just make one and see how it goes

>>16724938
>it's like holoEN
>it's like holoEN
fucking lol

>>16717640
>Pippa is the best if you want a vtuber you can actually talk to about board culture or lolcows
Why the fuck would I want this

>>16716889
this is how cyberlive is a good compnay. their talents and staff shill themselves on vt to no ends. stfu already.

>>16725827
>>16732418

>>16709790
Just watch them.

I watch MyHolo TV. the company may be black but the talents are great. Virion is one of the really good male chuubas out there. his singing is great

>>16723077
It had a long lasting general because one based autist kept it alive until even he got filtered, you filthy subhuman newfag.