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>> No.16702966

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.16703294

What's happening in pekora stream? She keep gaining and losing 400 people in few seconds

>> No.16703316

>>16703294
That's just alt tab behaviour anon.

>> No.16703323

Who's getting gold for the day?

>> No.16703356

>>16703323
Gura

>> No.16703403

>>16703316
Nothing was happening when that happened

>> No.16703410
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>>16703323
>>16703356

>> No.16703433

>>16703410
>>16703323
the SMOK Splatoon later has a potential for Gold

>> No.16703455

>>16703416
>APEX is back
>Silverboi is nowhere to be seen
Aiii, the Idol route is too strong, and the burnout is real since he keeps playing Valo instead. His numbers will be grim indeed.

>> No.16703466

>>16703433
Not with 2 POV.

>> No.16703471

slot change time

>> No.16703476

Welp, i guess tomorrow it's holo jp vs en again huh?

>> No.16703483

Nijiniggers ruined the last thread. Can we please keep them out if this one?

>> No.16703492

Youtube Algorithm royally screwed Mel yet again, she was already slow out of the gates for her first day view totals for her new Animal cover but she is already losing in daily new views against prior covers that are a few weeks old.

New Views in last ~36 hours
>Okayu 36340
>Fubuki 29398
>Mio 23986
>Mel 14043
>Botan 10826

>> No.16703522

>>16703483
Vox and Mysta greatly under performing for their best time slot so it's gonna be worse than usual.

>> No.16703525

Holoen should do solo-diamond apex stream if they want #

>> No.16703530

>>16703483
Nah they still seething cause Ui didnt invite leechingmoto

>> No.16703590

Honestly, Anykara is likely to promote or sell NFTs in the future of their livers to people saying that "Fuwa Minato is owned by xxxx" in an auction

>> No.16703597

mio recovered waiting room in 2 and half mins

>> No.16703603
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>>16703492
Oof, Mel's animal is still at 58k after 2 days? That's unfortunate.

Lain is basically a borderline 3-view these days, but she premiered a Sil Vous President 4 hours ago and it already has 132k views.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn4SJEc4BxA

Look at it compared to her other VODs.
Again, it has only been 4 hours and it's growing quite fast.

>> No.16703606

>>16703530
>leechingmoto
what a name kek

>> No.16703609
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>>16703525
>short term incline to permanently kill their channel
well, I guess a Council could do it...not like they could stream LESS

>> No.16703627

>>16703356
Lmao no, she's playing some metroidvania no one cares about I expect 15k again

>> No.16703638

>>16703294
This game is fucking boring

>> No.16703653

>>16703530
Don't insult Maimoto, faggot.

>> No.16703658

>>16703603
Lain's cover was trending for me.
People were mass retweeting it.

>> No.16703664

>>16703522
Underperform? Aren't they running with debut buff still?

>> No.16703673

>>16703627
13k would be good for her considering she only got 16k today with barely any overlap and TING is more attractive than her game tomorrow.
She's overlapping with Ame Apex tomorrow.

>> No.16703679

>>16703627
At least she tried.

>> No.16703688

>>16703653
Fuck off, homo.

>> No.16703689

>>16703522
That shit was legit shocking, especially accounting for who wasn't streaming at the time. If you'd asked anyone a few hours ago prior to the stream, I'm sure most people would've put him around 6k at worst accounting for debuff game and Petra. Did the JPfujos go on a sabbatical or something?

>> No.16703691

>>16703658
>People were mass retweeting it.
Usual day on Nijisanji's Twitter.

>> No.16703713
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16703713

what happened to noel there, connection issues?

>> No.16703735

>>16703673
Yep she's only going to get good numbers again in the VR stream,Bully and maybe Ark still hard to tell if this game will be a buff for EN

>> No.16703739

>>16703603
>Lain
>Sil Vous President
I switched to my YT homepage after reading this and noticed this got recommended to me. You faggots are screwing with the algorithm again just like Namibia Cam

>> No.16703740

>>16703492
>>16703603
Considering how much the girls spend on these songs, Hololive really needs to a way to promote the songs to the whole hololive fanbase. At the moment I really don't know when songs come out unless I'm already a viewer. It would be a great way to give the girls more exposure.

>> No.16703752

>>16703664
Depends really, they have first move advantage for a fujo pandering EN male vtuber wave.
Edengumi went a whole month with "debut buff" and then crashed hard.

>> No.16703776

>>16703740
Don't think the company cares too much because they can't monetize the covers.

>> No.16703781
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>>16703689
>I'm sure most people would've put him around 6k at worst accounting for debuff game and Petra.
No numberfag worth his salt would have predicted 6k because we have the numbers of ep 1 of Operation Tango with Petra and he peaked at 4.6k last time.
Ep 2s of co-op games (especially shitty ones like Operation Tango) do noticeably worse than Ep 1s.

If Mysta managed to get higher than 4.6k today, that would be a sign of him massively inclining in the past 2 weeks. Getting lower is just normal.

>> No.16703782

https://youtu.be/KW0eUrUiyxo
This might be of interest to you guys

>> No.16703787

Koro-san forgot to delete the waiting room of the collab, 4k waiting for nothing..

>> No.16703791

>>16703603
Oh, Lain's cover really picked up steam.
It was stuck under 10k for the first hour.

>> No.16703810

>>16703787
mr koro...

>> No.16703825
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>>16703653
he is a leeching faggot that actively sabotage the nijigirls gachi

>> No.16703827

>>16703597
Enbros...it's not fair...

>> No.16703851

>>16703776
It's still a good idea, funneling viewership helps them in the long run with the girls and the algorithm.

>> No.16703898
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16703898

Well we predicted Ike would do well for his Japanese Duolingo, but he has a good chance at breaking 10k even while overlapping with Vox.
This is already his highest peak since debut.

Vox lost around 200 viewers.

>> No.16703900

>>16703664
is a matter of content. Their gaming streams are their weakest shit unless they have thigns to pander them (horro kusoges, sims,zatsu)

>> No.16703915

>>16703688
>>16703825
based

>> No.16703921

>>16703688
Suck my dick, bro.
>>16703825
He's boosting those boring ass sluts that are the nijigirls, Maimoto brings more to the table in collabs than anyone else. "Leeching" when he gets more viewers than half of them, don't make me laugh, and you accuse fucking Maimoto of sabotaging anyone to top it off. You leechposters don't know shit.

>> No.16703925

>>16703781
This was back in December though, and prior to today Mysta did look like he was inclining so a 6k estimate would've been more in line with what most people thought.

>> No.16703938

>>16703898
It turns out that the thirsty fujo/yume don't care WHO is streaming, just that an English speaking dude is there huh. Whew.

>> No.16703940

How's Pekoschizo coping?

>> No.16703953

20k get for smok splat

>> No.16703964

>>16703921
>Wah wah wah muh beggar iz good
The absolute state! No wonder Luxiem mogged your beggamoto >>16703898

>> No.16703987

The meta for luxfaggots is completely different than for female streamers since their fanbase is all SEA and JP fujos, once they figure this out I think Mysta can easily get a 8-10k median.

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>>16703921
Where is the nigger?

>> No.16703995

>>16703925
6k estimate for a new game is fine, altho it's probably closer to 8k.
These split POV co-op games are massive debuffs, especially if you do a 2nd ep.
Luxiem is doing well, but they're not doing "defying months of data trends" levels of well.

>> No.16704007

>>16703627
I have no idea how she even picked Apotheon, not something I'd expect she'd play.

>> No.16704034

>>16703898
>how to make en succesfull
>heavily pander to jps audience
kek

>> No.16704037

>>16703938
>just that an English speaking dude is there
>英語禁止

>> No.16704038

>>16703938
That is kinda worrying though since they're probably gonna get ignored in favor of Wave 5 or the NijiJP wave once that comes out. And what happens when there's more than 10 males in the branch?

>> No.16704040

Post SEAYSTA

>> No.16704084

>>16703938
Ike has a lot of JP fans in his chat so him doing a duolingo like this is just a no brainer, like Kiara doing korean duolingo.
He holds the Luxiem record right now for SCs when he made 1.5 mil yen in a free chat during JP times.
That's Chloe "grandma died" announcement money.

>> No.16704100

>>16703964
>Luxiem is 5 Mystas
Fuck off fujotrash, Ike gets shit for numbers normally and a one-off gimmick stream won't suddenly put him ahead.
>>16703988
Him not being in it physically could be a number of things but definitely nothing rratworthy that you shitposters would like.

>> No.16704107

>>16704007
She was probably looking at greek/roman themed games. She might've requested it a while back for her party outfit reveal and just got the permissions now. I think she should make it clear via twitter that it's greek themed for number purposes.

>> No.16704122

Towa just confirmed her anniversary live had around 80k CCV in her member's stream

>> No.16704126

>>16703938
>ust that an English speaking
>japanese duloingo stream

>> No.16704134

>>16704034
Just like NijiKR lol

>> No.16704139

>>16704122
what were the estimates from anons?

>> No.16704142

>>16704122
Jesus lmao

>> No.16704149

>>16704100
Keep crying beggarmoto. Your leeching nigger will never be as relevant as Voxx

>> No.16704158

>>16704037
>English prohibited
Well jeez you could just type that in English, I'm too busy watching SMOK, but thanks for the info.
Nonetheless, the point stands that they're NijiEN first, and that this is by far one of his biggest streams yet.

>> No.16704166

>>16704107
10K for Ike,
he is stealing JP and Fujo audience.

>> No.16704167

>>16704038
>they're probably gonna get ignored in favor of Wave 5 or the NijiJP wave once that comes out.
People said the same thing when Council debuted, that Myth and Irys were going to be overshadowed and the audience is going to be cannibalized...etc.
We'll know when it happens, but it'll at least be months before it does and by then, Luxiem hype would be normalized and we'll know what their average day numbers look like.

>> No.16704170

>>16704122
No way! Source?

>> No.16704178

Niji en more like niji asia.

>> No.16704189

>>16704149
You will never be a woman and your "oshis" find you absolutely disgusting and repulsive on all levels.

>> No.16704195

>>16704170
I'll post the timestamp when the stream is over

>> No.16704198

>>16704122
no way that stream with stacked guests can only get 80k

>> No.16704214

>>16704122
Ahahahah.
Fucking hell. Well, I'm glad it did so well, she deserves it, but gods does that tick me off that it got slashed that hard live.
From 80k to fucking 23.4k.

>> No.16704217

>>16704122
Christ
Reminder that the public figures said it peaked at 23k in the waiting room, 21k during the stream, and that wasn't even the peak of CCVID

>> No.16704225

>>16704139
I said 70k, guess the cull was even worse than I thought.

>> No.16704228

>>16704198
Towa's inclining, but she's that kind of number monster yet, even with big guests.

>> No.16704231

>>16704189
fuck off retard maihomo will never be relevant

>> No.16704244

>Someone from nijien got 10k
See you soon faggot, the thread will be shit.

>> No.16704246

>>16703466
its not 2 pov they moved it to Mios channel because Korone had tech problems

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>>16704122
max estimate was around 60k, some anon calculation with towa's band was like 50k. Turns out the cull is heavy even before this december, youtube live ccv was always shit.
Thank you towasama.

>> No.16704263

>>16704198
Holy numberrot, her bday only got 67k and that was also stacked

>> No.16704265

>>16703603
>>16703740
Going back to compare it to her Vampire cover, I can't see any reason (aside from the obvious meme of 'Vampire' doing Vampire) why one was more successful than the other.

With both of these covers, Mel only announced its premiere one day prior and both came after a stream drought of several days from her. Vampire cover hit 200k views 3 days after but it is looking like it will take over a month for Animal to get anywhere near that.

>> No.16704271

Why did only Mysta activate the membership?

>> No.16704286

>>16704263
sorry anon holox warped my perception of numbers

>> No.16704291

>>16704198
Anon, 80k is already much better than even her previous Live(mid 60k).

>> No.16704297

>>16704122
someone should try asking pekora's tournament next

>> No.16704304

>>16704231
He'll always be more relevant than your flavor of the month SEAgoblin coomerbait kpop rejects. Enjoy your 3view numbers in 2 months when the JP fujos get bored of them.

>> No.16704326

>>16703603
I got Lain's cover in my recs even though I only ever watched her twice months ago, she got a good blessing from the almighty algorithm for sure

>> No.16704330

>>16704297
Best to do it in a member's stream.

>> No.16704334

>>16704122
Did she show any screenshots?

>> No.16704341

Who is attacking who at this point? Make a thread and duke it out there

>> No.16704343

>Now we get NijiEN vs NijiJP shitposting
I guess it was a matter of time and homos, since that's the only thing niji fans care about.

>> No.16704392
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16704392

KoreTube mogging the FUCK out of Andrés, Jogo and Safuvan.

>> No.16704422

>>16704244
>>16704343
Stop samefagging already and fuck off.

>> No.16704423

>>16704343
It's a change of pace at least.

>> No.16704432

>>16704392
Who the fuck even listens to hip hop these days?

>> No.16704461

>>16704330
I can do it but I dont speak moon, can someone give me a good translation to ask

>> No.16704489

>>16704139
I judged it around 80k judging it against Shion's birthday live VOD. Turns out I was right.

>> No.16704523

>>16704139
I was saying 4x any number you saw from CCV, looks like I was nearly spot-on.

>> No.16704541

Kinda fucked that Ike has more people watching him then 3/5 of Edengumi combined. Remembering all the hoopla for them last year when Leo's was looking like Mr Koro (forma de Male) feels like a fever dream now.

>> No.16704547

>>16704523
so pegor tournament 200k?

>> No.16704566
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16704566

Let's fucking go, NamibiaCam!

>> No.16704572

>>16704547
Probably more like 180k.

>> No.16704600
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16704600

SMOK collab is doing a lot worse than expected, probably won't even beat Subaru's pokemon stream from earlier at this rate, but eh 24k is a 20k+ stream.

Ike's at 11k and perhaps good news for Luxiem is that Vox's number hardly changed, so there wasn't brutal overlap between them.
Then again, most of the people in Ike's stream rn are JP women tourists watching him because of duolingo.

I love seeing EN Leos mog the fuck out of OG Leos. Thanks Ike.

>> No.16704601

>>16704541
Why do people not believe in debut buff theory? Why do they think numbers stay forever? nijiEN males next year will be the same.

>> No.16704610

>>16704566
>ostriches
can't even touch oryx peak

>> No.16704617

>>16704547
It heavily depends on tourist numbers too, since they were likely less affected and I'm pretty sure poketourists were there to see who was luckiest.
Imo, it was likey higher by at least 20-30k, but unless Pekora reveals the truth we will never know.

>> No.16704645

>>16704600
splatoon is a dead game so i kind of expected it wouldn't do that great, honestly they'd get better numbers doing another skit stream

>> No.16704648
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>>16704600
IKE IS THE NEW KING!?

>IKE-DONO, I KNEEL!
Sorry for falling for the false "Orange Kuzuha" meme
>KNEEL
<KNEEL
>KNEEL
<KNEEL

>> No.16704659

>>16704541
Judging the numbers during the first month is always a mistake. Luxiem looks somewhat strong now only because female NijiEN has always done like shit, but there's still a chance their primarily japanese audience loses interest in the short term and they're left with only SEA, regressing to more average NijiEN numbers for everyone except Mysta who might end up a little bit stronger.

>> No.16704670

>>16704600
Pretty dure JP women watch Mysta more, Vox is more liked by Chinks, so his numbers shouldn't change much cos of Ike's JP stream

>> No.16704672

>>16704617
Good luck trying to wrangle it from her, she barely do membership streams which makes it harder.

>> No.16704685

>>16704659
Mysta is gonna have a menhera breakdown if he becomes a shitter.
He keeps bragging about his numbers.

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16704691

>pekora holding 25k, averaging 29k
It is safe to say CCVID (for selected JP, at least) is over

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>>16704617
even poketourists were getting fucked

>> No.16704697

>>16704648
stop kneeling to random nijis or I'll call him a Gura killer

>> No.16704717

>>16704697
No, you're a Gura killer.

>> No.16704719

>>16704600
Holy shit, Ike truly is the Gura killer, kneel to him!

>> No.16704728

>>16704697
Noooooo, don't kill his growth.

>> No.16704743

>>16704600

>SMOK collab is doing a lot worse than expected

I think it's more because of the sudden change of host than Splatoon being that much of a debuff. Korone didn't even delete her waiting room and the change to Mio channel was with like 10~15 minutes left to start

>> No.16704750

>>16704691
Maybe Susan really is a nousagi.

>> No.16704752

>>16704719
FUCK YOU ANON
FUCK YOU

>> No.16704764

>>16704691
ccvid is not over, just way less intense. Theres a bunch of premium accounts still not counting again on 0viewers

>> No.16704767

Gura is already killed thought

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>>16704697
>>16704719
DELET FUCKING THIS!

>> No.16704786

>>16704767
Luxiem killed Gura.

>> No.16704785

>>16704601
It's been 4 weeks since Luxiem debuted.
Look at Edengumi, Council and Irys's numbers 4 months after their debuts - they all normalized to pretty much what we see now on a good day.

None of them inclined 4 weeks after their debuts like Luxiem is going through right now, where most of them are getting better numbers than their debut weeks.
It's not really right to call it a debut buff because it's more like HoloMyth's incline a month after their debuted in Oct/Nov 2020 where it's delayed.

Hype will fade and their numbers will drop later, but they aren't done inclining yet.

>> No.16704790

>>16704617
>Imo, it was likey higher by at least 20-30k
Wow. Bold of you. CCV to VOD comparison isn't perfect but the stream very obviously at minimum got to 100k. 20-30k higher? lmao.

>> No.16704814

>>16704719
The great great Gura killer,Blue King!

>> No.16704817

>>16704541
I don't see why it's fucked. It's a JP duolingo stream during JP primetime and Ike is pretty popular with japanese fujos just judging from the amount of traffic his JP clips get.

>> No.16704824 [DELETED] 

>>16704648
i see you kneeling to everyone
i'm gonna call you the kneelschizo

>> No.16704830

>>16704785
>inclined 4 weeks after their debuts
kek, great penguin numbers btw

>> No.16704831

>>16704790
I know, I DEFINITELY lowballed it. That's why I said at minimum. I agree that it probably more likely a 100k stream than not, given the VOD views.

>> No.16704838

>>16704547
Send a SC to ask how many viewers were watching the tournament

>> No.16704839

>>16704785
4 weeks after their debuts*

>> No.16704874

>>16704817

>I don't see why it's fucked

It's fucked if you think about how much Endegumi was hyped

>> No.16704877

When's Kuzuha coming back? I'm sick of these fat nerds that can't even pee inside the toilet bowl being hailed as kings, it's a disgrace.

>> No.16704911

>>16704877

Probably after the Niji concert (if that happens kek)
He is doing idol reps now

>> No.16704917

>>16704198
anon, the highest peak CCV she ever got before then was 74,527 for her 1st non new year outfit reveal. It should have been her biggest ever stream. (though if someone manages to get her to tell us the peak for this year's marika it might be higher)

>> No.16704919

>>16704785
the sad state of nijitrannies

>> No.16704926

>>16703740
They could use that Hololive Music Twitter to make post promoting cover songs, currently it is only use to promote original music

>> No.16705002

>>16704874
You're acting as if Edengumi is dying. Bro chill. Lauren got like three Apex streams that went above 10k just last week.

>> No.16705008

>>16704917
towas mariokart was like 80-90k utilizing the same kind of vod-ccv ratios that worked on towa-shion

>> No.16705043

>>16704122
Now i am curious about NJU number

>> No.16705052

>>16705043
1Million

>> No.16705064

>>16705002

Because of CR cup boost. His solo streams get pretty bad numbers. Not Oliver or Lain levels, but very underwhelming

>> No.16705065

>>16705043
60k without bots.

>> No.16705070

>>16704830
One day of shit numbers doesn't mean much.
You're retarded if you don't think Mysta, Vox and Ike have inclined since their debut weeks.
Gura got way below her Dec median today and her last stream, did she decline too?

>> No.16705077

>>16704122
Holy shit ahahaha, and she wasn't the most CCVided in that whole damn story. Imagine the Numbers Pekora actually pulled off during the Metronome tourney. I had expected 130k but that might have been much more than that. We'll never know unfortunately unless she boasts about that streams numbers at some point this year.

>> No.16705087

>>16705043
+20% wouldn't be a bad guess, since the high amount of tourists likely insulated the number from being too heavily hit.

>> No.16705103

>>16705064
Now look at the normal numbers Ike gets.

>> No.16705121

>>16705043
its got the same vod views as last year NJU (120k ccv), even with an extra hour to collect more viewers

>> No.16705135

>>16705064
nigga ike gets shit for normal games

>> No.16705151

>>16705043
Well both NJU VODs are 3 hours long and they're both at 4 mil views after 19 days...
Both had around 2.7 mil after 24 hours of processing so its gotten a shitton of VOD rewatches.

>> No.16705175

>>16705052
>>16705065
No, really
Unironic Nijifag please SC whoever that Niji liver to show her analytics of NJU video. For Academic Purpose...

>> No.16705176

>>16705070
>inclining
>always get worse numbers when playing the same type of content the second time
grow a brain, and a dick

>> No.16705239

>>16705121
Anon, NJU 2020's VOD views have nearly doubled in a year.
It was at 3.6 mil a week before NJU and grew 400k views since because people rewatched it in anticipation of NJU 2021.

The fact that NJU 2021 already caught up to it means by the time we get NJU 2022, these 2 VODs will probably be closer to 5 mil views.

>> No.16705270

>>16705239
no NJU only had 300k views last year

>> No.16705293

Lamy 10k, Miko interaction buff

>> No.16705296

>>16705008
It might have peaked very shortly at 6 figures when she announced the qualifying results, that was a big spike even with ccvid but it's impossible to know since we have no idea how hard it got culled due to probably having more tourists for the marika tournament compared to things like 3D lives.

>> No.16705322

>>16705293
blue koyo did it!

>> No.16705325

>>16705293
instant 2k boost and make it to the list last minute

>> No.16705331

>>16705293

she got the funnel from botan ending

>> No.16705357
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16705357

Raise your hand if you hate Pekora.

>> No.16705376

>retarded anons still trying to argue over fake ccv
take a look at their official marketing material, nobody gives a fuck about it because it is fucking broken
https://litter.catbox.moe/q4kekz.pdf

>> No.16705426

koyo asmr recovered room in 2 and a half mins
see you later nerds, i gotta go relax to mayo

>> No.16705440
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16705440

>>16705357
Me!

>> No.16705447

>>16705376
And what, we're going to numberfag VODs and subs?
Don't make me laugh, that's never going to happen.

>> No.16705501
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16705501

>>16705176
You're fucking retarded so I'll spell it out for you.
>always get worse numbers when playing the same type of content the second time
First of all that's normal even when you're inclining.
Second of all, Mysta has only streamed two game twice:
- this shitty co-op game with Petra
- GTAV where he got 5.5k the first time and 5.4k the second time
Vox has done 7 Genshin streams at this point and his most recent one peaked higher than his first one (6.4k), which is the most buffed one.
Shu's 2nd Doom stream(3.5k) was 2x his first one.(1.7k)

If you're going to numberfag this poorly, get the fuck out of here fag.

>> No.16705505

>>16704139
My estimate was 77k which seems right about on the money. See >>16258737

>> No.16705551

>>16705426
Please give Pink Lamy more numbers, although the mostly green chat is good too.

>> No.16705560

at this rate NijiEN will mog HoloEN in SCs this month

>> No.16705565

>>16705357
>>16705440
what's wrong with you?

>> No.16705607

Oh no Lamy is leaking viewers to Pink Lamy too.

>> No.16705652

>>16705560
Agree,
HoloEN is NijiJP.
HoloJP is NijiEN.

>> No.16705677

>there is no market for EN males!!!!111
Never fails to make me laugh.

>> No.16705706

Did Council damage the Hololive brand?

>> No.16705715

Luxiem ruined this fuckin thread

>> No.16705724

>>16705677
Still absolute shitters in EN market tho.

>> No.16705748

>>16705706
Yes,they did.

>> No.16705750

>>16705724
cope

>> No.16705759

NijiEN is mogging HoloEN

>> No.16705805
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16705805

>>16705501
>numberfagging broken ccv
next you're gonna tell me that you were only pretending to be retarded

>> No.16705810

>>16705715
Keep seething and maybe their numbers will drop

>> No.16705821

>>16705759
More like Luxiem mogging HoloEN

>> No.16705875

>>16705805
>numberfagging a 3 week old VOD of different length and comparing it to a 1 day VOD
>Some VODs are literally twice as long
You're absolutely fucking retarded.

>> No.16705874

>>16705501
vox has been stretching his Genshin impact streams since people just want him to get that caarcetr that looks like him.
is not really a good example as he is baiting with that her fans. His views of each of those streams are lower than the initial ones also specially comapring times.

>> No.16705884

In He is posting from his huawei phone again..

>> No.16705933

>>16705706
Anon after Council, hololive had the biggest debut in vtuber history, if Council damaged anything it was HoloEN.

>> No.16705946

>>16705875
241k to 123k to 91k
literally the first three lol

>> No.16705992

>>16705875
anon you are expected to be smart enough to make the matches.. im sorry i expected so much from you

>> No.16706025

>Ike's chat is full on japanese
Jesas
I fear soon JP primetime will be overlap hell for Luxiem if they are truly numberfags.
Not even the NijiEN girls chats were this stacked on nihongo when they did jp pandering streams.
RIP Petra YWNBJ

>> No.16706030

what happened to haachama asmr, over already?

>> No.16706038

Thank you Haachama for fucking up your mic, please funnel your viewers to my Koyori.

>> No.16706044

>>16705821
Ike will do Karaoke stream at JP prime time.
They really know how to milk CCV.

>> No.16706062

>>16706025
reimu dont be mean with your colleagues

>> No.16706073

Post green lamy

>> No.16706077

>>16705946
Do you even know what CCV you would need to get 240k views on a 3 hour stream?
You would need at least 12-17k CCV.
His first few Genshin VODs have been contaminated beyond belief after 3 weeks.
Your initial point was the numbers keep dropping, but his CCV is stable and his recent VODs of the same length are in the same range.

>> No.16706106

>>16706030
Her mic apparently decided it didnt want to work tonight.

>> No.16706109

>>16704122
Keep in mind even if this was in November it wouldn't have shown us 80k. It would have been 70k or 60k or whatever. They likely always seen the number is higher when they get the real stats later, but it's not such an enormous discrepancy they would ever bring up up for fear of seeming petty/numberfagging.

>> No.16706126

>>16706077
VoDs take longer period to drop

>> No.16706152

>>16706077
ccv doesnt mean shit since december 2020, nijitranny. Now show me the incline on those vods, im still waiting. Or would you like to backpedal some more?

>> No.16706163

>>16704600
What's wrong with Leos? His numbers are pretty good for zatsu

>> No.16706164

>>16706109
>Blatantly false numbers for over a year
YOUTUBE!!!¡???!?!????!??
I'm aware of the 2020 cull, I just thought it actually straight up removed them from counting at all instead of it acting like how the 2021 cull did.

>> No.16706187

Post pink lamy

>> No.16706212

>>16706187
she called me a fucking zako
also she's at 9,5k and had real weird visual bug for a sec there

>> No.16706249

>>16706212
9.7k, I saw the watching now at 1 viewer too.

>> No.16706259

>>16706025
That's like complaining that someone's English learning stream is full of English....

>> No.16706264

>>16705357
AkuPeko Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKs4o4kvTlc

>> No.16706284

>>16706152
I don't even watch the Nijihomos and it actually pains me to see them get good numbers.
You're just so fucking bad at numberfagging that it had to correct your stupid ass.

>ccv doesnt mean shit since december 2020
It's so convenient when CCV matters and doesn't matter depending on what comparison you want to make.
I hope you keep this same energy when you numberfag tomorrow anon.

>> No.16706286

Did retards actually think Mysta would match yesterday's numbers with a co-op game that's also outside his usual stream time?

>> No.16706299
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16706299

Sorry Koyori, 10k is for grown ups!

>> No.16706307

>>16706286
No, only baiting faggots who love to shit up the thread and don't even check what he got for part 1.

>> No.16706310
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16706310

>>16706164
welcome to youtube, pedo anime girls are not wanted

>> No.16706331

>>16706299
you were saying?

>> No.16706337

>StarsEN debuts to try to rival Luxiem
>turns out majority of their viewers are NijiJP fujos that will probably never watch them
>will probably be sub 2k since they're competing in a smaller audience
I can see it bros.. a gen full of Sana

>> No.16706339

>>16706299
Were you reverse jinxing? Thank you for giving Pink Lamy 10k.

>> No.16706342

>>16706284
who are you trying to fool here nijinigger?

>> No.16706353

>>16704122
https://youtu.be/jVdB7M1AAdY?t=4518
Here's the timestamp if you have membership
>8万人ちょい見てたらしいよ。 めっちゃ嬉しい。

>> No.16706376

>>16704122
so do we have anymore doubts about the fact that currently haachama is one of the most culled JPs?

>> No.16706384

>>16706337
Surely they can't do worse than regular holostars.

>> No.16706388

>>16706286
It was obvious if anyone looked at his part 1 numbers, but shitposting is all this board cares about.
Remember when the thread celebrated that NJU got 39 viewers less than Pekora's outfit reveal when we know now that NJU was likely culled as hard as the HoloNY stream?

>> No.16706394

>>16706337
just dump them on twitch instead

>> No.16706413

>>16706310
It's so dumb.
Also, no wonder YT didn't give two digs and creators didn't either if they still ended up getting the same amount of money afterwards, especially Hololive/Nijisanji. If anything, that move probably killed their competitors more since they absolutely relied on CCV to incline instead of subs/Vods.

Jeez.

>> No.16706416

>>16704600
It's a collab that was changed to a debuff channel at the last second playing a 5 year old game. Also reminder that Spla 3 is going to be one of the biggest arcs of 2022 as a game that's both casual enough for all Holos to play and (assuming it's out by the summer) a perfectly timed stopgap between the impending death of Apex and the release of whatever the next big shooter is

>> No.16706421

>>16706342
Don't need to be a Nijinigger to call you out for being a shit-tier numberfag, idiot.
I don't give a fuck about Luxiem, I just wanted to shit on you for being a retard.

>> No.16706430

SMOK ended, lets see who catches the funnel.

>> No.16706446

>>16706388
That was actually funny and Nijifags were shitting all over Holo's NY stream and calling the cull a cope so that was rightfully deserved.

>> No.16706452

>Even the weakest Luxiem member can now pull 10k+ on a Duolingo, solo stream
Ohnonono, HoloENbros, when was the last time /our/ weakest member managed to pull 10k on a solo, non-event stream again? Has that ever happened?

>> No.16706470

>>16706430
Doubt it will funnel. Its too late in JP now.

>> No.16706500

>>16706452
Sorry, I am just looking at Kiara's 2.5k stream.

>> No.16706501

>>16706337
I can see this happening, especially if most of the EN girls keep them at arms length and the JPs completely stonewall them outside of the ones that already collab with Stars (mostly early gens). I do think there's something of a market there, so maybe in the range of 2-6k. I don't see Cover management wanting them to go full degenerate fujo-baiting even if it helps their numbers.

>> No.16706505

ENTER SULTAN

>> No.16706525

I got sent to Danchou

>> No.16706556

>>16706525
meant for >>16706430

>> No.16706561

>>16706388
I mean c'mon that was super funny, even if people knew why it happened. Threads where Nijisanji loses at the by a tiny bit or at the last second are always the most hype and exciting atmosphere here, even if you don't actually have anything against nijisanji.

>> No.16706578

This just proves that Towa had more numbers than Kanata during her anniversary

>> No.16706577

>>16706452
Why are you comparing NijiJP males to HoloEN?

>> No.16706599

>>16706452
Just wait until Sana does an English learning stream. You'll see.

>> No.16706603

Will we ever again see a 40K for a normal stream?

>> No.16706605

>>16706578
I mean, I would hope so, given that Towa went and got that many guests, while Kanata wanted to see how far she could get mostly by herself.

>> No.16706607

>>16706388
>when we know now that NJU was likely culled as hard as the HoloNY stream
kek nope. In order of cull impact and order, it was vspo to then holojp to then holoen+nijien girls to then nijijpgirls and some jpmales only on the end of the first week of january

>> No.16706615

>>16706578
Kanata probably asked for Towa's number before breaking down this time.

>> No.16706621

>>16706452
>>16706500
>HoloEN streams during JP hours
>Get obliterated by HoloJP girls
>NijiEN streams during JP hours
>Obliterated most of NijiJP, males and females included
Tell me, who carry the EN spirit again?

>> No.16706623

>>16706578
Kenzoku hands typed this

>> No.16706631

>>16706337
Yeah it makes me laugh when catalog brainlets think StarsEN must be coming now when on the JP side the homos were always mogged hard by Nijimales, it's obvious the same would happen for EN

>> No.16706636

>>16706501
>collab
Many JP members have collabed with the Stars and that did nothing to help them incline, that includes even Mori.
"Assuming" that there's no market for Holostars EN no amount of collabs will save them unless it turns into a fully-fledged ship which will turn it into a double edge sword.

>> No.16706652

>>16706500
Kiara has no one but herself to blame for shitty numbers.
Normally, it wouldn't be too bad to have a few debuff streams, but at this point, I think she's filtered out so many casuals that she'll never get 10k on a solo minecraft stream again.

>> No.16706656

>>16706621
>Meanwhile no one streams in NA primetime

>> No.16706689

>>16706603
Maybe if Susan unfucks their CCV and shows that YT gaming is actually growing, gods. "For the sake of eliminating bots..oh oops that doesn't even work anyways, tee hee"
FUCK YOU SUSAN GIVE US THE REAL NUMBERS.
Okay maybe I'm being a bit too harsh, since the system does seem to be able to detect and swat thoze bot attempts on Ike, Ame and Ollie's streams, but man I don't think it's worth it for a perpetually fucked CCV for everyone across the board.

>> No.16706691

>>16706656
>Meanwhile no one streams in NA primetime
Kronii!!!Where are you?

>> No.16706697

>>16706605
Heimin coping hands typed this

>> No.16706705

>>16706421
Jesus Christ, you're still trying

>> No.16706709

>>16706621
How dare you! Kiara is beating Matuli this time, great improvement over IRyS stream yesterday. I say that they are inclining.

>> No.16706715

>>16706656
Burger no watch stream, clip good enough

>> No.16706726

>>16706636
I think Luxiem has proven there is a market, as much as people like to pretend all their viewers are Indonesians or Japanese, their chats are normally almost all English, as is their twitter interactions. I'm sure if someone broken down their SC donations it would be overwhelmingly USD.

>> No.16706727

>>16706578
>>16706623
I see you in the Towa thread, fellow Kenzoku, albeit a rrat spreading one. Not everyone here are complete idiots.

>> No.16706732

>>16706656
Vox and Mysta are in a similar timezone as Kiara so making them stream in NA primetime is cruel.
Kiara dies every time she needs to participate in a collab during Gura's timeslot.

>> No.16706738

>>16706636
idk why people think collab will save them or muh spotlight they deserve. FBK and festival at their prime collab with them frequently, nothing changed. Nothing can unfuck stars.

>> No.16706774

>>16706705
Keep seething, fucktard.

>> No.16706782

Damn, Ark going to get gold again?

>> No.16706787

>>16706652
Her chicken voice is the biggest debuff
Many Holo fans try to get into her but they just can't stand her voice. People sub to her but they won't turn in her stream.

>> No.16706789

>>16706726
uh SEA can definitely use english no matter how broken it is.

>> No.16706812

>Gura's last VOD got culled like 3k views
Is there anything accurate on Susan's god forsaken platform? I wouldn't be surprised if soon they remove the money part from superchats and just keep the colors

>> No.16706817

>>16706697
Try harder next time nijikek

>> No.16706825

>>16706452
The weakest Luxiem member is Luca, you brainlet.

>> No.16706833

>>16706726
>as much as people like to pretend all their viewers are Indonesians or Japanese
Anon, the source for their audience being mostly nips was them reading their own analytics on stream, nobody is pretending, it’s actually the case

>> No.16706848

>16706726
nobody better reply to retarded bait like this one, unless it is the samefag himself

>> No.16706881

>>16706727
I've only been there once
I'm just stating facts, not rrats

>> No.16706893

>Pekora getting ark gold again
Fuck me, every Holo will be playing ark by next week at this rate.

>> No.16706911

Can't believe mayori got to 11.5k by calling her viewers losers for 40 minutes.

>> No.16706961

>>16706893
They will play it until Aki returns.

>> No.16706967

>>16706881
Wild guess but it was worth a try.

>> No.16706990

>>16706774
kek it is your time to sleep I guess

>> No.16706991

>>16706893
ark blowing up my oshis pc turned into a blessing. she has to play console games or mc to be able to stream it now or her pc dies.

>> No.16706997

HAACHAMA
>3.2K
Jesus,from 50K meme streams down to this.

>> No.16707015

>>16706911
isn't it great? she has to get better at the pacing and the noises tho

>> No.16707041

>>16706893
ARK is still giving most members great numbers. Might as well milk it dry.

>> No.16707062

>>16706787
Annoying voice is a filter, but it's not the worst.
Bae's stream voice when she howls and wheezes like a kettle is arguably more annoying.
What kills Kiara is game choices. She insists on streaming games no one wants to watch.
The other HoloEN girls have the tact at least to know there are games they want to play, but aren't fun to watch, but Kiara prides herself in streaming the most boring games to watch.
She used to still be able to squeeze out 6k views on a new FoTM game, but now that's dropped to less than 5k.

>> No.16707069

>>16707015
She needs a better mic/better sound setup but she has potential, I guess she's still in her experimental phase. Hope for big ASMR numbers for her in the future, but it's tough competition.

>> No.16707077

>>16706997
>>16706142

>> No.16707080

>>16707015
I just want her to slap me once.

>> No.16707083

>>16706893
Ark has been a massive buff game since exactly 2 years ago newfriend, or at least when more than 3 people are playing it

>> No.16707099

>>16707080
but anon, she already smacked my ass this stream

>> No.16707131

>>16706732
They are closer to NA primetime than Kiara by an hour, and despite this they choose to stream early in their days instead of the pre-NA primetime slots they could do to try and build up NA audience. The times they stream are almost as bad for EU too.

If they started at 8pm local time and do 2-4 hours they could do the lead-up to NA primetime and the beginning hour or two of primetime itself and still be in bed by midnight.
Instead they choose to stream at like 2pm local time/9AM east NA, not even attempting to build an NA/EU audience.

>> No.16707142

>>16707099
Fuck, did I miss the slapping? I was watching the real Lamy at the same time.

>> No.16707168

>>16706997
>>16707077
kek, haachama is 100% numerically retarded. I'm a Haaton from "Goat Simulator" days and I didn't realize she would start a new frame

>> No.16707180

>>16707142
yeah, she did it while she was playing with the slime

>> No.16707198

>>16707131
well they go to where the fujo money is

>> No.16707230

>>16707198
Speaking of Fujo money, Ike made $6000 USD from a duolingo stream from JP women.

>> No.16707239

>>16706578
Does it? The vod views are so similar. Kanata matching Towa solo is really impressive.

>> No.16707255

>>16707180
Thank my friend, it was at the 36 mins mark. I will need to experience the smack later.

>> No.16707292

>>16707131
Why would they? Do what works. They're making tons of cash. If it dries up, it dries up, and they can go grind NA hours like the girls as a last resort.

>> No.16707317

>>16707239
Kanata's stream was also a week earlier so its had more time to build up views.

>> No.16707359

>>16707168
And it's not the first time she's lost viewers this way...

>> No.16707380

>>16707292
It is of course great for their earnings, but it’s not really doing much for NijiEN’s overseas market ambitions if their audience is 80% thirsty Japanese women and they’re mostly competing with their own JP branch

>> No.16707468

koyori ended
im sad now

>> No.16707485

>>16707468
Funnels?

>> No.16707505

>>16707468
Its ok, she said that she loves us.

>> No.16707589

>>16707485
Doesnt look like much funneling around. Its 1am already and no one is returning to Lamy.

>> No.16707601

>>16707485
it's like 1 am anon
if you go by vrabi everyone is losing viewers except danchou who got like 100

>> No.16707687

>>16707589
ASMR streams especially don't funnel since so many people use it as a sleep aid

>> No.16707873

Ike is now the most superchatted EN vtuber in January so far, about $2k ahead of Mori

>> No.16707933

>>16707873
Is this the new EN Gold? The EN Superchats.

>> No.16707985

>>16707933
Kek

>> No.16708015

>>16707873
Impressive if true. He can have half my kneel.

>> No.16708072

>>16707380
NA fujos don't give a shit about male vtubers since they already simping for BTS.

>> No.16708106

>>16706961
Poor girl really has no luck heh... We saw her on Pekora's Livestream yesterday and even called her with the equivalent of Moona NPC status on Minecraft, so a few people reacted but nothing else...

>> No.16708195

>>16708106
She will also most likely only return when the ARK buff period dies down with her luck.

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16708342

>>16707380
You guys keep saying their audience is all JP/SEA while ignoring the massive numbers of chink superchats they get, I have no idea what proportion is TW/HK/mainlanders with VPNs but Niji JP males always had a relatively small number of superchats from there while EN has reached that market big time

>> No.16708390

>>16704122
If that was 80k for 20k CCV then what was Gura's 50k NY costume reveal CCV?

>> No.16708442

>>16708390
ENs didn't have it as bad at that point.

>> No.16708457

>>16708390
Just beg Gura to open her analytics page for the first time in her life.

>> No.16708492

>>16704122
>predicted a 70k-80k average based on VOD views and assuming people watched 15 minutes per viewer
The peak was probably higher than 80k.

>> No.16708510
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16708510

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>36,391: Pekora (Hololive)
>31,198: Subaru (Hololive)
>25,735: Laplus (Hololive)
>25,357: Mio (Hololive)
>23,086: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>18,306: Miko (Hololive)
>17,795: しぐれうい (Indie)
>17,506: Choco (Hololive)
>17,305: Botan (Hololive)
>16,716: Gura (Hololive)
>16,101: Okayu (Hololive)
>13,700: Hoshikawa (Nijisanji)
>13,213: ガッチマンV (Indie)
>11,894: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,616: Ike (Nijisanji)
>10,763: Chihiro (Nijisanji)
>10,641: Ina (Hololive)
>10,565: Lamy (Hololive)

>> No.16708511

>>16708342
This currency is donated much more often than the yen, especially to Vox.
Imagine if they decide to do a duolingo chinese stream

>> No.16708534

>>16708390
The cull was different for every Vtuber , so we don't know for sure until she shows the Chumbuds a screenshot of some stream (like the Mario Kart one)during the CCVid. Maybe got culled to 30% compared to Town with her almost 80% at the end of the CCVid.

>> No.16708561

>>16708390
She'll never bother looking herself let alone tell us

>> No.16708568

>>16704461
Pekora only reply to aka

>> No.16708588

>>16708510
Fuwa preventing a top 10 Holo (+honorary Holo) sweep while getting his monthly salary at the same time.

>> No.16708602

>>16708510
Pekora, i... I kneel.

>> No.16708605

>>16708510
12 holos
4 nijis
2 indies
top 10 is 8 holos
average day

>> No.16708610

>>16708390
He didn't ask how bad it was, he asked how much

>> No.16708619

If Ark is great buff why Holos stop playing
That game for a year??

>> No.16708641

>>16708390
her costume reveal before the ny one only reached 112k or something so definitely not 4x the amount you're hoping for

>> No.16708648

>>16708619
you can only play so much of a buff game before it turns into viewer poison anon

>> No.16708651

>>16708510
Surprised a 1pov SMOK collab didn't even medal

>> No.16708664

>>16708619
>If Minecraft is great buff why Holos stop playing
That game for months??

>> No.16708667

>>16708510
>しぐれうい
you can spell her name in English like the rest anon: rape.

>> No.16708685

>>16708651
splatoon fucking sucks man
also mio really needs to fix that crackle in her audio

>> No.16708722

>>16708390
Really depends, since we dont know if analytics showed real numbers pre CCVid or pre 2020 cull.
If its pre CCVid safe to say she got 100kish, supported by previous outfit reveal
If its pre 2020,its anyone's fucking guess, but probably something like 150k
Bear in mind it should naturally be doing worse than her normal outfits since third outfit, close to another outfit debuff NYE debuff and late NYE at that

>> No.16708738

>>16708534
>3d debut event got above 300k with CCVid
>open her analitics just for the 3d event because people are begging her to do it
> is actually above 5 million live viewers
>chumbuds got mad and start the hunting againt Susan
>Gura close it and and never opens again
her analitics is a pandora box.

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>>16708510
QUEEN USADA!!!

>> No.16708822

>>16708510
Hololive 12
Nijisanji 6

Hololive is 8 of the top ten with a medal sweep. NijiEN again getting ranked, that is the 5th time ever outside of debuts. All of them Luxiem, I do not believe we will ever see a NijiEN female on this list.

Another medal for Pekora, she might beat Nijisanji this month. Laplus with a bronze when she usually hovers in the 5-7 range. Subaru gets anther silver. It's notable that Choco and Hoshikawa are there.

>> No.16708855

>>16708722
>100kish
Naw, it was a 30 minute reveal.

>> No.16708900

>>16708855
But so also a relay

>> No.16708916

her ccv aside, how much money do you think she would've gotten on a stream like this anons?
haachama made it extra emotional, and it's a goodbye to a fairly expensive piece of equipment

>> No.16708929

>>16708619
it was a huge debuff before the last update
last year people who played it all have shit numbers
so people like pekora didn't even bother playing it
people stick with MC which is always good for numbers

>> No.16708938

Why are people pretending that Luxiem fans are worse than the NijiEN female fans? I'd much rather someone tell me that a 11k CCV and $10k+ in SCs are an accomplishment than NijiEN female fans tell me 4k CCV and $3k in SCs is something to note.

>> No.16708990

>>16708510
>Gura barely making it into top 10
You don't need Gura killers, she killed herself

>> No.16708995

>>16708938
To add to this Ike got 15th place. A typical Selen good day doesn't even break the top 50.

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>>16708667
I'm blitzed and forgot to translate Shigure UI and Gatchman

>> No.16709037

>>16708938
They're discussing markets. Presumably Niji wants to get new NA fans instead of having old jp/sea fans switch niji oshis. Same reason Cover management was doing retarded shit like forcing ID2 to speak indog or do indog only streams despite them being basically EN 1.5

>> No.16709041

>>16708916
Chloe would have made over 10k. Noel would likely make over 20k given how much money people know she invested in her studio, except they would go send it to her roommate.

>> No.16709078

>>16708510
Why the hell is Nijisanji struggling to keep up even against the indies? I'm sure the audience awareness is pretty high up there on par with the Holos but people don't seem to watch them live. Why is that?

>> No.16709081

ccv is retarded, as is anyone seriously looking at them

>> No.16709089 [DELETED] 

>>16708822
>I do not believe we will ever see a NijiEN female on this list.
Petra almost got 10W.

>> No.16709095

NOOO, MY KOYO. WHY IS SHE COLLAB WITH ANYA!!! WHAT ABOUT THE 500K!

>> No.16709106

>>16709081
I disagree

>> No.16709108

>>16708990
Explain how Gura getting 17k on a non buff game is different from literally the entire 2021 Gura numbers. I swear you fags commenting on her numbers literally don't keep track of them, she could get the same ccv forever and it would be a recline to you because of pre 2020 December numbers

>> No.16709117

>>16709037
Markets will stabilize and I haven't seen much evidence that Luxiem is stealing from NijiJP males. They play games that many females do not like. Fuwa and Kuzuha have a 70% and 75% male audience, Luxiem has a 75% female audience.

>> No.16709119

>>16709095
i just saw the frame lmao, and it's a shit game as well

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>>16709089
>almost

>> No.16709136

>>16709041
but haachama made 0 bucks because she's so adamant on keeping herself demonetized...I genuinely think she would've gotten 10k because people love her ASMRs, and if it means forcing her to buy a new mic like the ku-100, they'll fucking pay her without a doubt

>> No.16709143

>>16708938
Luxiem fans are all homos and fujos. The Niji EN girls aren't actually lowering the aggregate quality of English peaking vtubing, except maybe Finana.

>> No.16709160

>>16709089
Have nijiEN even beaten Anya's peak (on that one totsu) yet?

>> No.16709162

>>16709136
You are implying Haachama *wants* to buy a good mic. She's the queen of improv, not the queen of effort.

>> No.16709177

>>16709037
see >>16708342
I checked Fuwa's $26k stream and saw just two NT$ superchats, while all Luxiem streams especially Vox have a ton of them, even if they never get the NA market they've still opened up an untapped one for Niji males

>> No.16709209

>>16709119
They should just leave the pity charity collabs with ID to the EN girls.

>> No.16709217

>>16708510
>not even 40k
hahahaha!

>> No.16709236

>>16709177
Jesus christ he made $26k for winning a tournament?
JP women are nuts.

>> No.16709247

>>16709037
It's not retarded when we see it's working well for them. Anya getting 20k viewers on her costume reveal despite pivoting towards mainly ID audience is quite good.

>> No.16709257

>>16709108
>debuff game!
>cull!
Everything she does is a debuff by this logic

>> No.16709258

>>16709177
Anon they literally said they have a majority JP audience themselves, we arent running on speculation numbers from superchats

>> No.16709267

>>16709236
>don't watch APEX or watch him winning
>reward him for winning

>> No.16709347

>>16709247
How is it working well for them? Plus outfit reveals are tourism central, they draw tourists from all the holo fanbase because language ain't all the crucial to an outfit reveal. Its how Gura could get almost 200k for her outfit, japs wanted to see it too

>> No.16709352

>>16709267
For real, that's the funniest part.
Fuwa usually gets around 5k for Apex streams.

He already made $7k in the stream where he actually won, so he basically got a $33k payday for getting his l2d updated and winning a tournament where he wasn't even the best player.

>> No.16709379

>>16709236
It was his 3.0 update reveal too

>> No.16709385

>>16709177
>>16709117
They're obviously not expanding their viewer base when they revealed most of their audience came from JP. What are you guys talking about no overlaps?

>> No.16709387

>>16709037
A number is a number. JP females are a profitable corner of the market, so are Taiwanese.
We have undeniable proof that Gura's audience is only 30% North American so making headway in the EN market isn't something HoloEN even did.

>> No.16709407

>>16709236
Fuwa is Niji's Nene

>> No.16709480

>>16709387
>What is the difference between Live audience and Total audience
>What is 3.75m subs where many can't catch her live
The answer is we simply do not know how much of HoloEN's audience is 'Just' NA, and I doubt they'll ever reveal it.

>> No.16709484

>>16709257
But it's not a debuff like DMC. She doesn't break 20k on non buff content and hasn't for an entire year. She needs karaoke, minecraft, DBD or hot chuuba games like GTA for that. Then there's mini events like collabs with ame/kronii/Myth as a whole, VR streams, stuff like meme reviews that drag her average up more.

Basically, if you think Gura pulling 17k on a normal game is a recline, you don't keep track of her numbers for a whole year now

>> No.16709485

>>16709385
>when they revealed most of their audience came from JP
That doesn't mean they are stealing from NijiJP males just because they have the same demo. The only way to determine this is if NijiJP males' SCs go down since it isn't reliable to use CCV since NijiJP males were hit really hard by CCVID and NijiEN males were barely touched.

>> No.16709513

>>16709106
admission of guilt

>> No.16709539

>>16709347
Cause they retained a sizable audience despite being relatively isolated for quite some time now. Have you seen the metrics? Even Moona inclined quite a bit.

>> No.16709575

>>16709387
Tard , 29% Americans and 12% Canadians is way more than 30% NA. And those are view numbers, not live viewers. You can literally see Gura eat a 5k ccv minus when she streams in yuto times

>> No.16709590

>>16709385
I think his point is, the women who normally skip Kuzuha and other manjisanji FPS streams are watching Luxiem streams instead because they are more female-friendly.
These women wouldn't be watching Niji streams otherwise so whether or not it's getting new viewers or reclaiming lost viewers, it's still a net gain in people watching Niji.

The other anon is saying most of Vox's SCs are NT whereas Fuwa's payday today was mostly yen, which implies the gachis for Manjisanji JP and Luxiem come from different regions, hence no overlap.

>> No.16709591

>>16709485
>The only way to determine this is if NijiJP males' SCs go down
That's not how it works. Go back to school.

>> No.16709629

>>16709385
Even if 99% of their audience was cannibalized from NijiJP and 1% is Taiwanese women new to vtubers that's still expanding their viewerbase. It's also obvious to anyone with half a braincell that talking about their Chinese-speaking audience is a huge political minefield so they don't discuss them as much.

>> No.16709630

>>16709480
>Total audience
You're dumb if you think that doesn't matter for revenue, more than CCV. How aren't total VOD views their audience? VODs either matter or they don't, considering Cover sells them as mattering and are still swimming in sponsorships/collabs I'm inclined to believe Cover has the right of it.

>> No.16709650

It appears hololive lost one of their key sponsorships to nijisanji en which is Princess Connect. It's interesting that they drop hololive and going with nijisanji en this time around.

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>> No.16709681

>>16709485
Why SC particularly? Nijis don't SC that much on regular streams so it's not a good indicator for them. It was shown that they do have overlaps with the JP males based on CCVs and this happened after Youtube partially fixed CCVID.

>> No.16709717

>>16709650
>lost
Damn even companies are tribalfagging now.
Good thing HoloEN "won" HATSUNE MIKU: COLORFUL STAGE! from NijiEN so it's a fair trade.

>> No.16709726

>>16709681
>Why SC particularly?
That's the best tell of what the profitable audience is. If we make the assumption that one person has only so much to spend on SCs then we can infer that if they aren't SCing NijiJP males as much their money is going elsewhere.

>> No.16709735

>>16709650
>lost
Nijiniggers everyone.

>> No.16709740

>>16709485
anon only a minority of the audience scs at the first place. And many of those are retarded enough to spend all their savings and credit until they go full broke.

>> No.16709786

>>16709630
Anon.
I never said it didn't matter, only it's difficult to gauge the full extent of the NA audience from just Gura's analytics of total watchers alone.
Hell, 29% of 3.75 M subs is still more than 1m subs of 'just' NA, if we're going to with the very quick and dirty approximation that the proportion of total viewers is 1:1 to her subs.

>> No.16709811

>>16709650
That's not how it works, a company doesn't pick one place to advertise and only use one company. Nexon sponsored Gura to do a cover of one of Blue Archive's songs right when they were sponsoring NijiEN. Capcom sponsors vshojo and Hololive on literally the same day.

>> No.16709849

ITT: luxiem fans accidentally proving that they are bugs

>> No.16709880

>>16709681
>It was shown that they do have overlaps with the JP males based on CCVs
We didn't really see that today and Fuwa's stream today is his most female-friendly stream in a while.

Mysta didn't drop when Fuwa's stream kept inclining to 22k.
Vox overlapped with Fuwa for his whole stream and didn't catch any funnel after Fuwa ended.
Vox lost 200 to Ike when Ike started and didn't start bleeding viewers until an hour later.

Didn't see much overlap when Ib, Fuwa, and Lauren did their Apex streams either but that's probably a different audience.

>> No.16709892

>>16709786
>only it's difficult to gauge the full extent of the NA audience from just Gura's analytics of total watchers alone.
That's exactly how we gauge her audience though.
>muh CCV
Why are we fetishizing magic voodoo numbers when we have hard data?

>> No.16709953

>>16709590
Bro, NijiEN males' incline in viewership coincided when Kuzuha and most of the JP mainstays weren't streaming much over that time period. Those people didn't skip at all, they're obviously watching the new guys and it's expected that most would leave once the novelty wears off. Mysta is already declining.

>> No.16709979

>>16709953
>Bro

>> No.16709985

That reminds me how anons theorized that Cover sells sponsors vod views based on what Cover shows on their marketing stats.
Based on that I'd imagine just getting Gura again would be as expensive as all of NijiEN (girls).

>> No.16710017

>>16709849
Nigger I'm the one who brought it up and I'm definitely no chink or fan of those faggots, just sick of /#/ as per usual letting their tribalfaggotry get in the way of analyzing the actual situation

>> No.16710049

>>16709575
>29% Americans and 12% Canadians
This doesn't seem right, Canada's population is about 9 times smaller

>> No.16710050

>>16709629
In the context of big companies, that increase isn't considered "expanding their viewer base." We normally called that a flop.

>> No.16710052

just wanted to let you guys know that youtube definitely notices you posting on this thread
ive never watched lofi girl and she got mentioned in the last 2 threads and now im getting her in my recommended

>> No.16710066

So what made you drop Pekora?

>> No.16710082

>>16709953
Kuzuha and Kanae overlapped with Vox and Mysta just yesterday tho and they got the numbers they usually got for Valorant streams (Kuzuha ~14k, Kanae ~6k).
These are the streams that their female fans skip because they would rather watch Vox play Mad Father and Mysta do meme shit than shooters.

>> No.16710093

>>16710049
It isn't right, Canada was 3% I don't know where that fag got his numbers from

>> No.16710102

>>16709985
Considering that the best NijiEN female in VOD views gets only 40% of Sana's VOD views then they're probably cheaper unless Cover screws the pooch on negotiation and Anycolor nails it.

>> No.16710118

>>16710049
He got the numbers wrong. It's 26% American and 3% Canadian to make up 29% NA.
No idea where he got 12% from.

>> No.16710135

>>16710050
I'm not saying they got a 1% increase retard, just that a 1% increase is still an increase

>> No.16710161

>>16710017
kek, you are as defensive as a tranny who just lost their wig, keep it up

>> No.16710163

>>16710052
>just wanted to let you guys know that youtube definitely notices you posting on this thread
I unironically believe that /vt/ has a big effect on the industry and /#/ is part of that.
>y-you're just a narcissistic schizo
Yes

>> No.16710209

>>16710052
Same thing happened with the Namibia stream

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Side note, next time some faggot says HoloID viewers are EOP scraps from HoloEN and have no local audience, remind them that Moona has a 41% ID audience.

>> No.16710244

>>16710135
I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm refuting about what you said that they expanded their viewer base because that minuscule increase isn't worth considering at all.

>> No.16710266

>>16710052
i never get recommendations of the names i read on these threads. Maybe google thinks you are weak.

>> No.16710323

>>16709078
Nijifags prefer Twitter unfortunately. It would be much funnier if they were more present on their Livers' streams but that's not the case. A̶l̶m̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶i̶f̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶y̶ ̶h̶a̶d̶ ̶b̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶b̶o̶t̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶o̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶i̶r̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶t̶s̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶T̶w̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶o̶r̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶g̶a̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶ ̶s̶h̶i̶t̶t̶o̶n̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶t̶o̶u̶r̶i̶s̶t̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶n̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶e̶v̶e̶n̶t̶s̶.̶.̶.̶

>> No.16710325

>>16710244
We don't know how much they expanded their viewbase by and we won't ever know unless one is retarded enough to say "x% of my viewers are from Taiwan" in a post-Coco world

>> No.16710340

Matsuri actually cleaning up, playing really well in platinum and getting champion after champion solo but her ccv never goes about 3.5k. It's a shame, if she actually cultivated somewhat of a fps audience this would do killer numbers.

>> No.16710408

>no pakora schizo or council schizo when the luxiem schizo is around
interesting isn't it?

>> No.16710409

>>16710102
They didn't include Elira, Petra and Rosemi in this sponsorship, I wonder why.

>> No.16710462

>>16710340
isnt she just playing with bad players? She never does too well on tournaments

>> No.16710468

>>16709078
>even against the indies
Ui is clipped by the big Holo clippers as much as any Holo and Gatchman is one of the biggest names on NND who went on to become a vtuber, they're hardly the average indies

>> No.16710472

>>16710340
That's already pretty good numbers for her considering she's playing on such ungodly hours.

>> No.16710543

>>16710468
NIJICOEP

>> No.16710611

>>16709650
As if I'm gonna play that game again. I'm just happy with Arknights currently.

>> No.16710670

>>16710218
LOL, it's gen 2(ollie and Reine) that are EN 1.5. Moona inclined off Pekora and predates EN, you could visibly see her not get any bump in numbers from Myth, but ID2 started incredibly strong off of Myth

>> No.16710705

>>16710340
Makes me wonder why Towa was able to cultivate a FPS audience while also not falling out of the box and still get included in or run Holo events.

>> No.16710725

>>16710066
I fell deeper in love after the P*kora accident, Zhang.

>> No.16710763

>>16710705
Towa still tries to be in the box with collabs, Matsuri barely touches hololive. Also people seem to like Towa in the company, the same can't be said about Matsuri.

>> No.16710764

>>16710462
I explained who she is playing with in my post. She has won a tournament (nijipex) before and did well leading her own underpowered team in Hal's last vtuber tournament. The only people better than her in Holopro are two of the stars.

>> No.16710829

>>16710705
Towa's audience is split in two between the FPSfags and the idolfags (note idolfag =/= unicorn), I'm impressed at how well she juggles both

>> No.16710845

Why does Petra have so many personal clippers? Why, with her small numbers, do they keep appearing?

>> No.16710852

>>16710705
Because Towa took the initiative with Mariocart when Miko said she didn't have any plans to do a new one. Towa started off as an FPS女, Matsuri did not. Towa got lucky too, with her teams, big names and interesting story lines.

>> No.16710933

Surprised that this place didn't talk about nijiEN's priconne sponsorship or is there a bait thread at catalog already

>> No.16710958

>>16710705
Towa organizes a lot of events for Hololive and continues to constantly collab with other Hololive members while Matsuri had a period of months where she very rarely collabed with Holos along with her usual menhera fits on twitter.

>> No.16710987

>>16710933
Your eyesight reps… >>16709650

>> No.16710988

>>16710933
Already got brought up a bit earlier, and it's unsurprising given that Blue Archive also sponsored both HoloEN and NijiEN.

>> No.16711006

>>16710933
>we did
>there is

>> No.16711029

>>16710852
Ironically Towa's yab right at the start that nearly killed her career helped her in the long run by filtering out any unicorns from her fanbase so the remaining ones aren't bothered by her being in Apex teams with males

>> No.16711036

>>16710933
Yeah, there's already a few in the catalog. Basically HoloEN is either busy to be sponsored by them again or they can't afford them anymore. 7 people from nijiEN is a lot plus I doubt they can sponsor a song from nijiEN.

>> No.16711047

>>16710933
they tried it here and got no replies, so moved on to the retards who browse catalog

>> No.16711069

>>16711036
I really wonder how much it would cost to make Gura cover your song like Blue Archive did.

>> No.16711137

>>16711069
Didn’t Calli record one for Priconne as well?

>> No.16711157

>>16711036
I don't see why you should sponsor both if you can afford it.

>> No.16711163

>>16711036
>7 people from nijiEN
Nah, princonne probably only asked for Lazulight but nijiEN adds in Ethyria as a bonus

>> No.16711175

>>16711137
She wrote an original for the collab iirc.

>> No.16711194

>>16710958
The menhera stuff did little. Matsuri was just very inconsistent and didn't do anything impressive since From 1st last year. She is putting in more effort this year so far, so maybe she can incline a bit again

>> No.16711209

Weirdly low day for Holo SCs, Koyori was the only one to make over 200k yen

>> No.16711404

>>16711029
Not something that I would recommend for everyone. Becoming a 3 view right as the hololive boom started.

>> No.16711467

Noel 10k get

>> No.16711606

>>16708510
>missed noel
you jump the gun too early anon

>> No.16711737

>>16711606
1AM JST closes the tally. You can add her in the reposts but the image can’t be fixed

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>>16711404
It would've killed 9/10 vtubers but through Towa's dumb luck (emphasis on dumb) and whatever spell Watamage put on Hololive to make all their yabs somehow make them stronger she survived and is finally having her breakout moment nearly two years later

>> No.16711847

>>16711036
>Basically HoloEN is either busy to be sponsored by them again or they can't afford them anymore
Neither dum dum, and I'm no nijinigger. Priconne probably just thinks NijiEN has a different audiences so they're expanding in their direction. It's not a 0 sum game.

>> No.16711931

>>16711847
Indeed.
I think that they're probably not gonna get as much bang for their buck as they're expecting (since there's ex-holofans in there that no doubt were around during the first collab) but I think they're probably different enough that they aren't getting ripped off.

>> No.16711935

>>16711847
>7 members, not even the 10 niji girls, and 4 of them being Ethyria.
thats just what you call a tight budget

>> No.16711998

>>16700000
>>16699999
late but whats the gets

>> No.16712062

>>16711998
The numbers don't lie.

>> No.16712349

At 683k Hoshikawa is now the most subbed niji female right below mito. Honestly her 1m dream doesn't seem so unlikely this year.

>> No.16712533

I hate Pekora so much

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