/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16651742
Who?

>>16651825
beatani 2.0

>you're fake-marrying a woman fathoms beneath you because you don't want to risk being betrayed

stop being a coward and go tell them that
nobody that browses the catalog cares
>>16640628

>>16651742
It's like 50 anons. What's your problem?

>>16651918
more like discount ripoff bea

>>16651742
why? any qrd?

>>16652190
Real niggas are fans of the Clover instead

>a literal /r9k/-/soc/ pick me girl who took people to jail
God im so glad i've never bothered with EN vtubers of any kind

>>16652325
What happened

>>16652364
>>16652286
>>16651825
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/44587090/#q44587475

>>16652325
Hot

>>16652388
>Filenames have UTC+8 Time
Why of all vtubers do I have to share a city with this scizoid

All here tubers are a mistake. There will never be an exception.

>>16652325
>pick me girl
Only women say this, go away

>falling for /wvt/ hearsay
If you're a globalfag just go stay in your bubble. /trash/wvt/ is a cesspit that you should never take seriously anyway.

>>16652388
>She was dating CL's mod Virial
so basically GFE chuuba with secret boyfriend on the side.

I don't think you're going to get her fans to care.

>>16653093
Most likely, she could ride somebody on stream and plenty would defend her.
I thought some of the more creative stuff looked cool so I checked her out but cancelled after all this shit.
Is some of it fake, probably, but anybody with this much shit will have skeletons I just wanted comfy mushroom shit.

>>16652388
Wrong archive, buddy
https://desuarchive.org/trash/thread/44652445/

>>16651742
>4chan-addict menhera attention whore
>damn, better give her money and white knight for her on the interwebs

When is /vt/ going to learn the lesson every other board learned ages ago?
YOU DON'T SIMP FOR E-CELEBS FROM 4CHAN. THEY'RE ALL NUTS. EVERY LAST ONE. THE SANE USERS LURK AND SHITPOST. THE INSANE ONES CRAVE ATTENTION.

>>16653093
My favorite part is when they all believed she
>fractured her spine in a suicide attempt
>her mom told her chat BEFORE taking her to the hospital, because apparently she couldn't type
>she went to the hospital in her mom's car and was able to tweet in there
>slept for a night and took meds
>went home to stream
All to distract from those archive posts being dug up. I didn't even read the archive, but how does one believe those blatant lies? Who the fuck goes to the hospital for 1 day over a FRACTURED SPINE and what mother is more interested in posting in a Youtube chat to keep fans updated on her daughter who just attempted suicide (apparently)

I got obsessed with her for a while then regained my senses and realised that whatever the fuck was going on was not what i wanted, I'd rather just pretend some japanese girl doing ASMR cared about me than some crazy aussie girl. not that i have anything against her, she seems like she'd be kinda fun without the menhera, but she's just not what I want in my life

>>16654949
Based except for respecting her

This but Ollie

>>16651742
Do you have some sort of grudge against her or do you just like drama?

>>16655184
Ollie is just your typical zoomer, with all the ails such an existence entails. The topic is nuclear weapons grade BDP+ecstasy, conceited with low self esteem.

>>16655168
There's a big difference between having nothing against someone and respecting them, I don't respect her I just think she has the potential to be a fun vtuber if there wasn't the chaotic shitstorm swirling around her constantly.

literally who chuuba. but also,
who the fuck cares for literally who OP's sympathies doe?

seethe

>>16655370
champyons are the most cucked fanbase on this shit.

>>16655370
Kek

>>16654630
I'd laugh if Kiki wasn't just a dumb underage kid who got groomed by a bunch of weird guys
She is a manipulative bitch, but she has some clear mental issues and her fans are just feeding her delusions

>>16654630
>fractured her spine in a suicide attempt
Kiki fell off her stool.
>her mom told her chat BEFORE taking her to the hospital, because apparently she couldn't type
Papa Pyon was in the middle of taking Kiki to the car she couldn't type and was in pain at the time.
>she went to the hospital in her mom's car and was able to tweet in there
Kiki used a phone to tweet
>slept for a night and took meds
Yeah
>went home to stream
Yeah

>>16654630
Let me clarify some stuff
>fractured her spine in a suicide attempt
This is wrong, she fractured her spine... falling from her chair. While she was seated on it.Twice in a row. In the middle of a stream.

>What? How does that even happen?
If you ask champyons they will tell you that she has a very fragile body. She got so hurt that she couldn't keep streaming using her chair* so her father built some kind of platform in her bed so she could keep streaming and talking with the only people that can make her happy: the champyons!

*Champyons will jump at any chance to say that she wasn't using a chair, but a stool. Because for some reason her 20s/25s/30s YO oshi is not capable of buying a real chair.

>Who the fuck goes to the hospital for 1 day over a FRACTURED SPINE
It was less than 10 hours. She fractured her spine for a second time, went to the hospital (a hospital she said it was very, very far away from her house), got some check ups, slept for a whole night, got into a fight with her doctors and went back home to immediately keep streaming like if nothing happened. She did all of this in less than 10 hours, and none of the champyons dared to think that it was weird.

>what mother is more interested in posting in a Youtube chat to keep fans updated on her daughter who just attempted suicide (apparently)
You see, I'm genuinely impressed by this. When Kiki was larping as her own mother she did say that Kiki self-harmed herself, but she also specified for some reason that she was ESL. When Kiki came back she said that her mother made a mistake, and she just was trying to say that her daughter had an accident.

So in just one move Kiki managed to:
>Stop champyons from keep talking about the leaks, because her oshi just attempted suicide (apparently)!
>Get a lot of pity points, because the people that were talking about the leaks and pointing out the weird things about kiki were actually antis that enjoyed making her suffer and wanted her to kill herself
>Get a "get out of jail" free card if she wanted to stop the drama (My mom is ESL lol)

>>16657031
>>16657031
>Papa Pyon was in the middle of taking Kiki to the car she couldn't type and was in pain at the time.
Kiki was in so much pain that she couldn't type and she had to be carried to the car by her father (but she got better some minutes later and was able to send a very long chain of tweets trying to do damage control about the leaks)

But she was still capable of telling her mother to go to her computer, and calmly explain to her fans that she injured herself. The same fans that forced her to keep streaming and injure, again, her spine.

Yeah, it checks out, I'm sure her mother wouldn't have any problem of doing that.

>Papa Pyon! Wait in the car! I have to send a message from our daughter's computer to her husbands! Yeah, the same ones that got her spine fractured the first time! Yeah, the same ones that have destroyed her sleeping schedule! Yeah, the same ones that are masturbating to her thinking of her drinking her own pee!

Champyons are fucking retards.

Imagine ending up here with life on easy mode, more pathetic than even the most pathetic male on this site

Well reading this thread was a fucking ride, truly amazing how every /here/chuuba turns out to be a riot except Nadeshiko who did the smart thing and immediately ditched this place when she got a few viewers. Never change retards.

>>16657031
>Kiki fell off her stool.
>>16657044
>*Champyons will jump at any chance to say that she wasn't using a chair, but a stool
kek

>>16657645
Not true, Eira is pretty good. And Beatani is a bitch, but she is a decent person.

>>16657711
Eira barely qualifies but I'll give you that, anyone still following Bea is a masochist. Not that that's surprising.

>>16657645
Every /here/ chuuba is bad don’t be delusional

Kiki did all that to herself. Everyone and their uncle told kiki she needs to get sleep, stop drinking her own urine, and get a chair. Kiki is working towards improving her sleep and now has a comfy chair in the room, she is improving.

>>16657031
Doesn't explain
>suicide attempt
>why the mom was talking to a bunch of literal whos when her daughter fractured her spine, which is a deadly emergency and can result in living as a vegetable for the rest of your life
>going home AFTER ONE DAY

>>16657645
Look at Notch.
>/v/tard that makes threads about his infiniminer clone/3D dorf fort early access
>everyone trolls him epic style
>ditches /v/
>sells his soul
>gets BILLIONS

>>16651742
I don't really either, but I read /pyon/ pretty often and have a hard time believing that the majority of the posters there are unironic fans

>>16658002
There wasn't a suicide attempt, she fell off her stool. Kiki isn't suicidal. Kiki's mother didn't want to leave the message but her unruly daughter was screaming away throwing a tantrum shouting and shouting to let us know. It's a minor fracture, she didn't need to be in hospital for a long duration.

I always found the way people talked about Bea weird back in the day like she was 4chan's pet vtuber or that everything was some calculated plan to appeal to /here/ ridiculous so watching all the kiki stuff unfold has been kind of a fucking ride since it's basically what people wanted the Bea thing to turn out as, only a hundred times more insane because at least Bea came in as a pre-existing vtuber that just adopted this place as a second home while Kiki made being "the /here/tuber" her whole sthick

>>16658134
She gets 200 views per VOD, with sub-100 on stream (avg. 50-60?). She doesn't have fans. She has simps.

>>16651742
same but beatani

>>16658223
>any damage to the spine at all
>being allowed to leave a day later
Lol. Lmao.

>>16653041
They were never dating but it's funnier to think they were

At this point I have come to terms with the fact that anyone who defends Kiki past the very obvious astroturfing campeign she ran when the leaks happened is either a groomer with alterior motives who knows for a fact shes lying, but defends her for brownie points so they can try to fly her out and fuck her some day, or Kiki herself. No sane human being can look at all the facts presented and believe any of it was true, nobody can be that delusional and dense

>>16659025
lol fuck off she makes me and so many other people happy and you hate that. seethe harder.

>>16659146
Did any of that money actually end up going to the charity?

>>16659205
yeah

I dont think the average /vt/ poster should even give a shit about the Kikiverse at this point, she's completely NGMI anyway and has almost no real viewership. Anyone who pays attention to indies knows as a female vtuber, as long as you have good audio, arent boring as fuck, and have a decent model, its incredibly difficult to be at any less than 30-50 viewers. Kiki has all three yet can barely scrape 20 off the bortom of the barrel most days, and the reason for that is the demented, insane fans she does have surrounding her, who scare away any new viewers. Reminder they:

1. Constantly sexualize her to a rediculous digree, so much so that it becomes almost ERP
2. Go completely ballistic if new chatters appear in her stream and flood /pyon/ with demands that Kiki ban them
3. Demand she never collab with anyone, which is a primary mode of growth for indie vtubers she is completely cut off from
4. Encourage her to say edgy shit to pander to them, which just pushes people away when combined with the rest of their behavior

She is completely and utterly fucked, and will continue to stew in a cesspool of less than 20 schizos until one grooms her into quitting and living with them, thats the reality of it

>>16659146
>so many other people
less then a hundred cultists

>>16659576
It's like that, but this is entirely by Kiki's design.

>>16659576
/vt/ should give a shit about every single /here/tuber because

1)drama is guaranteed
2)they're revealed to be either dramawhores, attentionwhores or literal whores about 101% of the time
3)it's prime /vt/sisters content. No other branch of /vt/ubing manages to consistently fuck up so many times. It's a goldmine, but the gold is shit and every simp is a coprophiliac and every anti has a shit eating grin. It's amazing.

>>16657645
>Nadeshiko who did the smart thing and immediately ditched this place when she got a few viewers
she did?

>>16659576
What really grosses me out is that going by /pyon/, her most loyal (read: most influential) fans seem to be yuppies or STEM types with a lot of money to throw around.
>>16659658
Also, this.

>>16659576
She did that of her own accord. She came to /vt/ and was vocaroo posting before even streaming, pandering to /vt/ and making a twitter to DM anons with and prove that she's so totally based and redpilled and won't be like those stinky sanitized corpos.

>>16659783
except the viewers part is an overstatement

>>16659025
>anyone who doesn't believe my retarded rrat I came up with with the WVTrannies is crazy
Bold pivot, let's see if it works out for him...

>>16659783
yes she did, she's no longer /here/.

>>16659933
>Look at my buzzwords and boogyman to blame!
Yes I have read books about soviet-era propaganda too big guy, very cool, you are very smart and based

>>16659933
Anon, WVT trannies and /soc/tubers are cut from the same cloth. Do not trust ANY /here/tuber that does not either divorce themselves from 4chan or openly reference /sig/ in their debut.

A reminder for those who need it

>>16660656
Wrong thread

>>16655309
she's a teenage dream if you hate yourself

>>16661105
Bright died hair.
Obnoxious clothes.
Thinks communism is the way to go.
She's a whore, a hole, a dime a dozen Jezebel.

>>16660252
>only watch my preferred type of /here/ chuuba
They're all schizos. There's never been a /here/ chuuba that wasn't a massive disappointment

>>16661221
I agree with you completely. I don't watch any /here/nigger. I follow them for /vt/sisters drama.

>There's never been a /here/ chuuba that wasn't a massive disappointment
There never will be unless you count the slimy sneaky tentacles of 4chan grooming the likes of brapreaper or pedoshark (you shouldn't)

>>16661344
*there never won't be
-soojade tervitustega, ESL

>>16652388
>>16652325
>>16652388
Why do people make up these ridiculous things that never happened?
None if it is proven to be true, that's like believing on some flat earther theories.

>>16651999
>marriages are more stable if you're a 10/10 and she's a 5/10

Yes.

>>16659235
prove it?
>Kiki said so
ok

>>16661487
Step one: attention whore lies
Step two: simps lie to live the dream
Step three: antis get wise and troll
Step four?: meme for the meme's sake (e.g. KIARA HATE in 2020-21)

Wouldn't be surprised if its herself trying to dig herself out in this thread with all the ego posting she does.

>>16661602
Kiara dox were real though, so is something like Mori shilling on /mu/
This kiki rrat is incredibly retarded, and unsourced shit like this should be told to fuck off. I remember the retards calling Gura french or Ame obese and completely getting it wrong because they are retarded rrat peddlers

>>16661709
It's early morning in the razor wire camp state. I'd eat a dingo if she didn't wake 'till late noon.
>>16661730
OK. Lissen.
>Kiara's a NIGGER
OK
Cool
We all saw her roomnigger's tweets about orange man.
She's a complete tool. A typical white woman. A millenial snowflake, the runt of her gen. She's the runt exactly because of her holier than thou attitude
>/here/tuber is a dramawhore
It's not a rrat, it's par-on-course for attention whores from 4chan since the days the suffix -chan became synonymous with attention whore to westerners

>I remember retards
Remember them well, you are one.

>>16661344
>Mori
>Not a disappointment
Yikes, no holoniggers please. Shouldn't you be having a meltdown in some other thread?

What has Kiki ever done to upset any of you, she's only trying to help people and raise money for rabbits, leave her alone

>>16662208
>Not a disappointment
What the fuck are you talking about, SEAmonkey?
She literally collabs with incel predator weebtubers. Fuck, have you even seen how much of HER simps' money ends up being simped by the ceramics shattering scythe (b)rapper to the streamers she's simping on?

Mori is an autismus maximus that released some fire youtube songs. That's all you need to care about. She's the quintessential 4chan faggot stereotype otherwise.

>>16662220
AFAIK, there's some salty Vshojo tard called Greekfag who makes up narratives about 4chan-related vtubers and Hololive. He's still seething that his oshi, Nyanners, is hated around here. So he's posting garbage out of spite. Started with Pippa, then Bea, then Gura, then Shondo, then now Kiki

>>16662220
I don't have it out for Kiki personally, it's just funny to see people in denial when there's overwhelming evidence pointing to Kiki being a sort of shit person.

>>16662220
Honestly, I don't like that the posters in /pyon/ seemed to have nothing else in their lives but love for Kiki and everyone involved seem to be depriving themselves of sleep to an unhealthy extreme, Kiki included. It bummed me out to read so many posters in that thread say that their "marriage" with Kiki was as good as it could possibly get for them, but from what I understand everything I just expressed concern about is in the process of changing for the better, right?

>>16662651
Instead of samefagging, you could've provided the link instead of making baseless accusations. Are you that idiot who peddled the narrative that Ame was obese because she posted fat hands on twitter?

>>16662471
>fire YouTube songs
Go back

>>16662680
I can understand that and you're right.

>>16662754
Thank for listening to the honks of the concerngoose.

>>16662680
>actually I was just concerned about them
Kill yourself tranny

>>16662473
To understand why kikey gets 24/7 hate here, you must understand the history of uwu anime girls on 4chan. You sad, misguided, bright-eyed little simp.

>his oshi, Nyanners, is hated around here
Nyanners will never not be hated on 4chan ever since Nyanners' old rival Gura decided to cater to ironic pedos.

If you're a /pol/ Alex Jones conspiracy type then here's some trufax
>Gura was always a nyanners copy on 4chan
>nyanners went sjw, famously denounces PEDOFAGS, despite being a PEDOFAG herself
>gura went alcoholic
fast forward
>Gura is the biggest vtuber that ever was, on THE platform
>nyanners is the face of sjw vtubing, constant drama, NO SHE'S NOT PEDO SHE'S JUST A LOLI CAT GIRL NOT PEDOOOOO

And here's the sweet succulent meat
>gura was always a nyanners clone
>nyanners went on an anti-pedo crusade
>now, gura being more popular drops as many cunny references as she can

Pink cat made mistakes, vodka shark got Ws' upon Ws'. Now pink cat can only survive on twitch while pedoshark, HER PREVIOUS UNDERSTUDY/COPYCAT, rules vtube.

This is literally page 0 of the National Epic of 4chan Drama Concerning Dramawhores on 4chan. But I brought this ancient shit up for a reason. Kiki is just one attention whore among a thousand others. We're wise to this shit by now, and saw it coming from a mile. If tumblr was a thing, Kiki would be calling out /vt/ for being racist and sexist to score simp points there. History repeats.

>>16662913
>durr pedo
Yeah not reading all that
Kill yourself greekfag

>>16662220
I hate liars. I can't confirm nor do I care about the /trash/ /soc/ shit because idk who those fuckers are, so I can't tell if it's legit or not. Her lying about her spine was retarded in every single way.

>>16662949
Chasing shadows, m8. Tervitustega.

>>16661547
is this actually true? please answer seriously because im going to marry someone soon. she's 6/10 while i am 9/10.

>>16662913
You're rrat will never get traction just like you will never get a job, faggot

>>16662913
ah looks like the greekfaggot finally revealed himself as the one behind it

>>16662220
>she's only trying to help people and raise money for rabbits
i hate rabbits

>>16662791
I'm a handsome heterosexual man and will not kill myself. I'm sorry that someone having empathy for their fellow posters is such a foreign concept to you, you pathetic fat fuck

>>16662949
>>16663002
>>16663007
wait just a fucking minute.
Did one person schizo multi post or do you retard really believe me to be the greeknig? Cuz I'm not.

>>16662913
>obsessed with being a Gura anti
>nooo not my nyannerinos
You should realise that Nyanners is the trashiest whores of them all and you should commit double suicide with her

>>16662996
As a general rule yes.

>>16663114
good to hear that

>>16663102
Alrite at this point I'm convinced I straight up ESL'd that post because it was by no means decrying Gura, but a not so subtle jab at pink cat because to her everyone that ever called her a faggot is a pedo.

>>16663076
>>16663201
Take your meds, schizo

>>16663201
You're too autistic to sound coherent

>>16663269
I'll take my meds. It's alcohol. Cheers.
>>16663272
I may sound autistic by my ramblings, but I'm like a hound at detecting a bitter bitch like you.

>>16661487
>Why do people make up these ridiculous things that never happened?
I don't know if you are just a champyon or kiki herself (it wouldn't be the first time that she samefags trying to defend herself), but all the evidence so far is pretty strong.

>Sei's discord leaks about Kiki being underage, being in a relationship with one of Lumi's mods and having a fight with Beatani in a secret server
None of the vtubers or mods in the screenshots have came out in public to say that they were fake. Some anons claimed to have sent DMs to Eira asking about it, and that she confirmed the leaks being true. You could argue that those anons were also lying, but Eira hasn't said anything about those claims being false either.

Why would all of them keep silent about this?

>Kiki joining /yah/'s discord twice
The first time that she went to their server (under the alias of "Random Moth") she said that she wanted to make up with Beatani, because they had a fight in another server. This was way before the leaks about some /here/ vtubers having a fight in a secret server. Later Lumi's mod appeared out of nowhere, posted a couple of random emotes and then he and "Random Moth" disappeared.

The second time she joined as "Babytani's Cunny", and spent most of her time in the server having private DM conversations with some of Beatani's fans, asking if she was planning to join the VC channel, if she had a boyfriend, if she wanted to collab with her male fans and why did she hate Kiki

At this point no one knew yet that Kiki and Beatani had a fight, so there was no reason for "Babytani's Cunny" to ask that. Yeah, it could be a random guess or just some champyon being a retard, but "Babytani's Cunny" claimed to be european... while having the same time zone as Kiki. This was found out by sheer luck because she left her current time in the random screenshots she shared in the server.

>Kiki and B**** are the same person
I won't talk too much about this because the jannies are very trigger happy about it, but you have stuff like the name of the streamlab's gif, sharing the same hobbies, career, country, and Kiki asking for the removal from the archive of all the posts mentioning that name.

Also "Babytani's Cunny" and B**** had the same filename format for their screenshots, and, of course, they shared the same timezone too.

At this point the only way for everything to be false is if all the vtubers and mods from the screenshots were part of some kind of complot against Kiki, and they were planning it for literally months

>>16663406
Well keep drinking, maybe eventually your shit might start making sense

>>16657806
>>16660252
>>16661221
>>16661344
this, here's a list of /here/ wvtrannies you should avoid. Obviously not all of them /here/ and from /wvt/ but these are the ones who are related to it. If you happen to stumble upon them, you know to avoid them.
https://tiermaker.com/create/-wvt--tierlist---marginally-and-tangibly-related-edition-v3-1271761

>>16663467
Thank you for clearly explaining all the variables at play here without being a fag about it. I will keep this in mind and seek out further evidence myself. I confess I'm hoping it's not true, but at this point in life, nothing surprises me anymore.

>>16663467
"It could only be true or conspiracy, there's no way /yah/ retards could have forged any of this"
Every squirm is so transparent, Jesus Christ

>>16663696
list too long. Can't be bothered to memorize.
I think I'll just watch whoever I want.

>>16663514
Maybe you're short a drink, a fist or an oshi that doesn't have a badly hidden boyfriend. Either or, cheers and simp away.

>>16663696
Even shorter list
>western
>woman
The shortest list
>western
>woman
>says nigger
Avoid like the government-made coronavirus.

>>16663821
this. to sum it up shortly, avoid anything
>western
>not nijiholo

>>16663821
>boyfriend
That's not even the rrat, you don't know what you're talking about any more schizo-chama

>>16663467
>Eira hasn't said anything about those claims being false either.
why would she pay attention to some obvious schizo on some forum
acknowledging them only makes them stronger, better to ignore it

>The first time that she went to their server (under the alias of "Random Moth")
rrat

>The second time she joined as "Babytani's Cunny"
rrat

everything else is a rrat after that if you dont post proofs

>>16663467
>Sei's discord leaks about Kiki being underage, being in a relationship with one of Lumi's mods and having a fight with Beatani in a secret server
Any involved party has absolutely no reason to expose themselves to the level of attention Kiki was and is still currently getting just to defend some literal 2view /here/chuuba with questionable clips of her going around.
>Kiki joining /yah/'s discord twice
It is very well known that Bea hates any 'GFE' and posted about her dislike for Kiki's stream content multiple times in discord, to the point she posted about banning discussion of her.

>>16663467
>and they were planning it for literally months
Nta and I don't think it would be all of them, but it wouldn't surprise me if some involved fabricated something. I'm an ex-champyon that was just driven out by a schizo impersonating me for a month in order to make Kiki hate me. I'm pretty sure she will think I made the OP, which I haven't. I've left her community, won't return, and will never involve myself with her again, but I will still defend that she has weapons-grade schizos around her.

>>16663074
I learned in the past couple of years incels are a real thing that exists and not just a supreme gentleman meme, so most of those guys are probably of that type of tier where they have so little confidence that if they weren't simping for kiki they'd be incels instead. Simps and incels, eternally at way, but two sides of the same pathetic coin. The internet and its consequences have doomed the human race.

>>16663992
>I'm an ex-champyon that was just driven out by a schizo impersonating me for a month in order to make Kiki hate me
Then is sounding more likely a coordinated attack from schizos to bring Kiki down
If people were telling the truth, then there's no need for impersonating people, but it appears that her antis are definitely making stuff up
It would not surprise me if everything here is fake, and it was just all an attempt to target Kiki's mental health because that's what they love doing

>>16662913
So what you're saying is Literally Hitler will win the 2024 election and 4chan will be his base of support?

>>16663934
She doesn't do GFE anymore and hasn't since... like December 14. Check the yahcord logs for what conversation took place in Zatsutrash on the same day shortly before the last GFE stream, and also a stream in which she herself said she would be cutting back on the GFE before later unarchiving the vod. The writing is on the wall.

>>16663821
>shortest list is longer than the shorter list

What did he mean by this?

>>16664173
More like there are voices in your walls, schizo

>>16664086
I spent a good hour or two in /pyon/ one day in shock of the state of some of the posters there. I tried to encourage someone to enjoy Kiki but not consign themselves to a future that sees them completely alone, and he tried to tell me that human relationships are in the process of changing and that he would be happy to be part of some sort of parasocial cyborg hivemind in place of ever having a relationship with another human. I'm not even exaggerating.
I don't think that we're completely doomed, but when I have children I'm certainly not raising them to be internet posters.

>>16663992
>schizo impersonating me for a month
Mal?

>>16664233
>having children
Cuck

>>16663992
I wonder if you're the guy I remember getting the shit end of the stick before I left, part of the reason I got sick of being a part of it was how aggressive people seemed to be and how Kiki herself seemed to feed into that, she could have easily defused the problems with attacks on specific people but instead she ignored it or actively worsened it by never breaking the yandere "only watch me" bullshit.

>>16664168
US 2024 will either be a wartime suspension of democracy, the dem candidate getting 100 mil votes to Biden's 80 mil or straight up europeans getting their axes chipped on chinese skulls just to GTFO with women and alcohol for the war effort in the east.

Please don't bring politics to /vt/ and keep it either on /pol/ or /news/, you drama addict.

>>16664209
The shortest of the short list of ABANDON FUCKING SHIP
>female vtuber is edgy

>>16664256
She's obviously here, she's pissy that people were making fun of her for self-posting in /pyon/ and Kiki not defending her. Mal may be an even bigger manipulative bitch than she is a slut

>>16664223
I don't have a dog in this fight so I don't care if you believe me champyon. Do you own research rather than taking my word for anything.

Not fond of her, mostly for being desperate for attention and now obviously being a certified lolcow. Was following when she started but quickly her mental weaknesses, and not adorable flaws, but just cunty habits started coming out. Like the attention whore posting outside her thread, crying over one shitpost for pity, over dedicating to her fans, then the whole ring thing had me laughing, she’s so desperate to gain and retain validation it’s just off putting the lengths she’ll go to. And this was before the leaks happened. Not sure how to label her fanbase though, they act like edgy redditors on one side, then bend over and ironically homo post over gachi shit, like it hasn’t gone out of fashion 5 years ago after it was absorbed by the mainstream and ruined to death. It’s like they just discovered it first time. But hey if some of them enjoy the show they are getting, as long as they don’t spill their shit overboard I have no issue, in fact I think they improved in that respect over time, just wish they would be milked by a more deserving person.

>>16664318
I want to be a dad so badly bro you have no idea.

>>16664125
Yes, that is what I strongly believe. I can't prove any of it, obviously, but I followed her extremely closely (unironically in love with her) and the story doesn't really add up to me. She constantly talks about shit that would indicate she's at least as old as I am and I'm in my 30s.

>>16664256
No, but champyons will easily know who I am from me not being there soon. I wont namedrop myself though.

>>16664349
I doubt it. I've never been namedropped in a thread before.

>>16664233
What the fuck? I've seen people glum being single but never to such a degree you're describing. Truly saddening to read.

>>16664421
I'm sure you'll be a great father to your wife's son lol

>>16664439
I want to link it to you but I don't really want to dredge up old posts about that guy just for the sake of whatever dignity he might have left. You can probably find it on warosu if you search for the keywords "human relationships changing technology"

>>16664379
>wants less drama
>on /vt/

You have a lot of work cut out for you then. Though I think Gura will be a great president.

>>16664086
I've seen this before.

>>16664439
/r9k/ is like that.

>>16664432
I can't think of anybody off the top of my head. There is one guy that gets name dropped every now and again since he became an easy targert since the Crash Bandicoot streams for the schizo antis. The only other name that came up recently was because he was banting a bit. I don't think Kiki hates either of these people unless you know something I don't.

>>16664504
I know I will man. Several milfs have told me that I will be completely unsolicited, seriously.

>>16664173
NTA but she still does GFE regularly so I'm not sure where you got this idea from, you only have to look at her twitter

>>16664584
Yeah this is the image.

>>16664349
It's definitely some guy who knew how to exploit mentally unstable people like Kiki. I would've defused the situation myself if I was a Kiki watcher, but alas I'm not. I'm just a curious lurker.
Manipulators often do things like these in an attempt to isolate and manipulate their victim. It's why it can be traumatizing. These acts are usually coupled with blackmailing/suicide baiting with an addition of temper tantrum and the likes of that.

>>16663992
>>16664432
You were probably just another obstacle for them so impersonating you to give you a bad rep seems logical to them.

>>16664553
A vtuber will never be a cult leader. The nazis try to make the losers strong. The globalists try to make as many losers as possible. Vtubers capitalize on losers, and losers alone.

Gura throwing a Roman salute would entail her audience to not be fat pedophiles. She herself is a fat pedophile.

>>16664615
Neither of them. I'm the one that Kiki has been ignoring for some time because she thinks I'm a shitposter/dramafag/cheater/whatever. I could never figure out which, maybe it's all of the above. I'm not, but someone sure convinced her I am. I don't have any reason to lie about this because I've fucked off, but she still has someone crazy hanging around her.

>>16664693
>fat pedophile
How? She's doesn't sound fat at all. What makes you think she's not just getting into the act for views?

>>16664726
There's no logic in trying to make sense what a delusional schizo like him says.

>>16664720
Are you the harpie guy?

>>16655441
Beside Deadbeats and teammates and whatever Gura's fanbase is called

>>16655441
every fanbase is cucked, every chuuba has a boyfriend, seethe

>>16664683
Yes. I firmly believe whoever is making the shit up is an honest-to-goodness psychopath.

>>16664780
No. I don't think anyone actually noticed anything was happening to me, but I wont be there anymore.

>>16664693
>a vtuber will never be a cult leader

Kiara and Pomu already disagree.

>>16658480
Based

>>16651742
same but for any /wvt/

>>16664835
At least give me a hint without a name drop as a cautionary tale for a non-schizo who just wants to look for the signs in. I'm in every thread and most streams so I'd probably know you.

One thing thats incredibly confusing is why Kiki insists on clinging to 4chan as a platform at this point in her streaming "career" cycle. The reality is the community she has built has a hard-cap of being able to attract new viewers/paypigs, and she hit that cap probably two or three months ago. Her brand is tarnished beyond repair with all the drama and shady shit, and she has nothing more to gain from /pyon/ even existing. All of it could easily move to a semi-public discord and then she would be able to completely control the tone of the conversation and flow of information. I can only assume if the informarion about her being underage is true, then its a mental hang-up she has due to inexperience, believing that validation from the collective of 4chan is somwhow the most important thing she can obtain

>>16664726
>She's doesn't sound fat at all
She has a wonderful voice. It's her big strength.
>What makes you think she's not just getting into the act for views?
The empty carbs from alcohol. Her decades long streak of sitting, staring at a screen. Her aches and pains in her late 20's early 30s that will only get worse. You think trailer trash Ame has tummy hort? Just you wait until Gura's self destructive lifestyle catches up to her past-prime physical body

>>16664839
Green woman simps agreed with you then. Bunny woman simps agree with you now. You're a Strasserist in Nazi Germany, on /vt/.

>>16664916
I have been to literally every single stream she has done since I found her, there are only so many people like that. What I will tell you was happening to me is that someone would use shit I posted in chat to make posts in the thread that reasonably sounded like they were from me that would piss Kiki off. It wouldn't surprise me if they downloaded chat logs from a bunch of streams, searched for my name, and built some weird schizo profile on how I type to impersonate me. I actually really like all of you guys, so I hope it does not happen to you.

>>16665021
I've seen her to the Wii Fit streams, there is no way Gura is a fatty.

>>16664985
>discord
>powertripping manipulator / orbiter circlejerk
No, fuck off

>>16665062
I think you're over thinking it bro. I say stupid shit on the regular because of my autism and caused Kiki to have near melt-downs and she isn't ignoring me (although I wouldn't blame her if she did). Maybe you just need to chat more?

>>16665082
She's a self-destructive anon like you. With the added stress of alcoholism. And, unintentionally, being the literal cream of the crop. All she wanted was being a sassy attention whore. All she got was more fame than every legacy media source combined. More people listen to pedoshark than CNN and FOX combined and it's way more than one autistic anon can handle.

>>16665297
Give me a single example of her being a pedophile. Her loli model isn't her choice.

>>16658662
>They were never dating but it's funnier to think they were
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1264566880
23:28:16
23:28:25
this strange reaction to the mention of last girl he dated.

>>16663788
The "/yah/ retards" would include all the vtubers and mods in the screenshots

>>16663906
>why would she pay attention to some obvious schizo on some forum
>>16663934
>Any involved party has absolutely no reason to expose themselves to the level of attention Kiki was and is still currently getting just to defend some literal 2view /here/chuuba with questionable clips of her going around.

Kiki has done collabs with Eira and Pipa, so she should be in (at least) friendly terms with them, these screenshots are a source of constant drama for Kiki and are hurting her community, so I find pretty weird that Kiki hasn't asked them to just confirm that they are fake.

And even if Kiki didn't have any kind of previous relationship with them, the content of the screenshots gave plenty of drama for their own communities (secret discord servers, talking with male mods, Kiki being underage...)

They don't have any reason to stay quiet about it if they are fake

>>16663934
>It is very well known that Bea hates any 'GFE'
The first time she went to the server she was larping as Malice (because Beatani's fans were starting to guess who she was), if it was an anti he didn't have any reason to do that

Again, all the pieces of evidence support each other pretty naturally, you would need a fuck ton of coincidences or kiki being the target of a being complot for them to not be true

But champyons don't really care about this, of course, because for them Kiki is at the same time 18yo and 30yo, and they don't see anything weird about it

>>16665214
The issue here is someone being an impersonator. The problem with Youtube is that there is no easy way to tell if someone is an impersonator or not. Back then you could click on people's channels but you can't do that anymore.

>>16665460
Are you saying somebody is impersonating you on YouTube?

>>16665214
Whether you think I'm over-thinking it or not doesn't matter, I am only warning you because you asked for it, and defending Kiki because I still love her. This will probably be my last interaction with champyons or even /vt/ in general.

>>16665460
They didn't impersonate me on YouTube. The used how I typed on YouTube to write hateful and annoying shit in /pyon/

>>16665519
No and that's not me.

>>16665338
I don't know how to tell you this but she's been a cunnyfag since nyanners was one. She's certainly playing it up for the specific ''audience'' she grew up with/got groomed by, but it's a cute and funny fact that the trendsetting face of vtubing is an unironic, containment breaking gremlin. The latest BIG breach? Rating her outfit choices? I don't watch her that much because she feels like a newfag with all the super secret pandering. But she's not a newfag. She's been here since teenage pink cat pandered to pedos through vocaroo on 4chan and she saw it was good.

>>16665545
What makes you think it's the people around her and not just some schizo anti larping to sow discord?

>>16665626
So in other words, just take your word for it?

>>16665630
I didn't mean it was a champyon. I don't know who it is. Just that there is someone in /pyon/ that does that.

>>16665630
>not just some schizo anti larping to sow discord
That's what people have been coming to conclude with. They specifically falseflag with popular indie vtubers here that have their own individual threads. They barge into their communities and make up narratives or call them insults, like the retard who keeps spamming pedoshark here.

>>16665683
If you really love her you wouldn't leave her to the schizos, they're trying to filter people to hurt her.

>>16665727
There's only Greekfag that I know of who frequently does that, exactly like that. He's salty that people hate Nyanners, so he falseflags out of spite. If there's any other you know, feel free to expose them.

>>16665673
In other words, go back in time and lurk way back when teenage girls posted loli soundclips to attentionwhore because getting a -chan was like crack to these millennial loser women way back then. Because the two biggest vtubers in the world, among a lot of others, are, what you'd call home-grown. Nothing is beyond our reach and it's not a boast, but an incredibly sad fact.

>>16665744
I tried my best. This wasn't an easy decision, I am literally and unironically heartbroken. I believe that because of how damaged my reputation is with her she will be happier with me gone.

>>16665865
Gura doesn't have any vocaroos on this site.

>Champyons are starting lo look for some kind of insider schizo to blame for their drama
I love /pyon/
>>16665880
>my reputation is with her she will be happier with me gone.
I'm sure she will like you again if you donate her a big red superchat, don't give up!

>>16665936
Yeah we have a schizo impersonator issue that we need to deal with. I hope we get to dox who that guy really is. Impersonating people is one thing, but making up false narratives about Kiki being involved in some discord without proof, is another bigger issue.

>>16665880
I think it's pretty silly to assume she has the ability to differentiate between posting styles between chat and thread. I spend more time in those threads then anybody and aside for maybe 2 guys I can't even do that.

>>16665440
>And even if Kiki didn't have any kind of previous relationship with them, the content of the screenshots gave plenty of drama for their own communities (secret discord servers, talking with male mods, Kiki being underage...)
You grossly overstate the importance of this website for people that aren't based on being /here/, it is entirely irrelevant for everyone else involved.

>>16666141
Yeah see that's the problem. She can't differentiate posting styles, she just thinks she can. She even went on stream saying she can tell who we are in the thread by how we post.

>>16665918
I'm not autistic enough to have saved them, but Sachi was just a ''Nyanners clone'' until her own youtube and shork for whatever reason grasped the stars. Gura was less than special starting out. She was what you'd call a /here/tuber nowadays without the drama because it was all on private grooming chat and she was no one important. Until -holy shit- this literal retard memed every attention whore ever by becoming the best there ever was. She began as shadow pink cat. Now pink cat is shadow blue shark.

>>16666148
It's not drama, just some false accusations by probably one schizo. It came out of nowhere and there are no screenshots or anything linking her to any of that,

>>16666280
No amout of denying reality, ignoring all presented facts and trying to make up a demigogue will fix this. We have cycled through every possible big bad to blame, from trannies to /wvt/ to /yah/ to Bea to some nebulous Vshoujou schizo to some secret internal schizo to now a generalized single schizo with no alignment. Its blatantly obvious what kiki or champyon astroturfers have been doing in this thread, its the same song and dance every time something comes up and anyone with an IQ above room temperature can see through it.

>>16666093
>but making up false narratives about Kiki being involved in some discord without proof, is another bigger issue.
>Sei is now a random champyon schizo
If you are going to call everything a rrat at least be smart about it and inform yourself about who is involved with what

>>16666148
Eira still comes a lot here, and it's an important part of her community. Saying that this site is irrelevant for them is just wrong. Also you are ignoring the first part of my post, why didn't Kiki ask them about it?

>because it doesn't matter
Of course it matters, we are still talking about it, and I know that Kiki reads all the threads and reacts to them. If she cared about /pyon/ she would do her best to stop this drama.

>>16666280
>It came out of nowhere and there are no screenshots
Sei was teasing it for days, there's a lot of previous stuff that made reference to the content of the screenshots and... they are screenshots. Why are you saying that there's no screenshots? do you want more screenshots? of what? why? you are going to call absolutely everything a false accusation

God, are all the champyons this retarded?

>>16666230
So more bs your just pulling out of your ass. This is why everybody hates /vt/ sisters you fags just weave whatever bullshit narrative and repeat it enough until people fall for it.

>>16665062
Sorry to hear this. Oddball? Either way I hope you can find someone out in the real world who appreciates you.

>>16666694
/pyon/ doesn't care, that's why you're forced to make this garbage rrat-thread to try and see if you can sell it to people who don't already know. Your frustration that everyone sees through your lies is so fucking obvious throughout this thread. Go try someone else, faggot

>>16652388
Threadly reminder that if you believe this rrat you also choose to believe that the CyberLive moderation team (one being a pedophile groomer doxfag), potentially multiple of their talents, Beatani and other ADULT women ganged up to bully and isolate a "mentally ill underage" girl.

>>16666694
>>16665440
>>16663467
Why do you make your posts this way when you can simply choose not too?

>>16666809
It's not /vt/sisters drama. It's ancient. ANCIENT. /b/ drama. Every female lurker with a high-pitched voice and and no morals wanted to hit it big being a voice actor back then, because being a voice actor was the old version of becoming a successful vtuber. Pink cat was the best. Blue shark was one of many MANY. It's a true miracle that this one became THE internationally recognized pedoshark, while the 4chan flagship pedocat decidedly decided to fail to clean up her act and to this day relies on pedoshit to promote her antipedo platform.
Gura was one among many. She hit it bigger than anyone else. It's amazing. It's curious.

NOTHING is beyond our reach. And that's hilarious!

>>16663201
It was perfectly comprehensible by anyone with >80 IQ.

>>16666694
>"God, are all the champyons this retarded?"
They are not, this is disinformation 101, the shit you learn in the first semester of any polyclsci course at a two-bit community college. Deny allegations, attack witness credibility and therein the credibility of any evidence, implicate victimhood, appeal to morality, demonize opposition. It's quite literally what every cult leader or dictator in the history of civilization has done, but done on a retarded small scale by some braindead Aussie teenager and her groomers.

>>16667044
>/pyon/ doesn't care
Retardchama, didn't you see how many champyons came to the thread to defend kiki using the dumbest arguments imaginable? At this point they are not even trying to answer anything, they are just asking for evidence, ignoring it when they get it, and then calling everything a rrat and blaming the first random person that they can think of

>>16667095
Using paragraphs? Readability, and it's easier to write this way when you make long posts

>>16667228
Do you think they even realize what they are doing?

>>16667228
>Kiki is a scary cult leader now
Getting really desperate, huh? You know if you just told the truth once in a while you wouldn't be constantly scrambling to justify yourself

>>16667362
Pyon has been called a cult for months

>>16667228
Why do you have it out for her?

>>16667228
>an autistic australian teenage cult leader that's making thousands pretending to be a bunny girl
wait why am I supposed to hate this person?

https://discord.gg/TzzXadPZ

>>16665343
I know him; I trust his word. Don't care if you do or don't.

>>16662996
Yes because shes way WAY less likely to jump ship if she sees you as a catch and not the other way around

>>16667463
Because the WVTrannies are jealous of how much her fans adore her

>>16667468
Why would you post your shitty discord server?

>>16667590
>Demonize opposition
>Appeal to victimhood

>Champyons still ignoring everything they don't like and calling everyone a tranny
I love this

>>16666938
Not him either.

>>16667799
I think its fair to demonize your opposition if your opposition are literal demons.

>>16667590
The amount of Kikis /wvt/ spawns will be infinite. Because they're all newfags and will, no doubt about it, rely on drama and a sub-100 person private chat to boost ego and groom. The windmill of friendship and tolerance is not a hate symbol, it's a sharp reminder than the wheel keeps on turning and there's nothing new on this shitty website.

>>16667799
>>16667888
The wheel turns a spoke.

>>16667799
>I've literally taken a college course before, PLEASE BELIEVE ME
Finish your degree and get a real job and maybe you'll stop caring so much about lying about some Australian girl on the internet

>>16667318
Honestly? I want to believe they are aware and have alterior motives for it. The alternative that they are legitimately brainwashed and unwilling pawns is a depressing thought

>>16651742
I sometimes feel like I'm the only person on this board that's had sex before

All I'll say is Kiki has never deserved any of the abuse fired at her. All this girl wants to do is raise funds for charities, uplift the spirits of many lonely men and have fun. Why there would be any opposition to this is staggering.

>>16668138
Gay sex doesn't count

>>16668138
Unless you successfully raised 2.5 children to adulthood, you're no better than a hooker, hand or vtuber addicted reject.

>>16668138
I have too, but I don't like to go around announcing it because an autist may kill themselves over it If I've caught them on the wrong day

>>16668101
I'm sure that a couple of the champyons know how to play the game, but most of them are just really lonely people who feel very grateful to Kiki for giving them attention

Like this guy >>16668062 , he is not even trying to make a coherent argument, but he is still trying to victimize Kiki and defender her. This one is a little more suspicious >>16668152 , but it could be just a random shitposter

what baffles me is that the pyons fixate on this girl just bc she spouts 4chan /pol/ rhetoric. there are much better GFE chuubas (Nene Amano for instance) that don’t lean into degenerate opinionated shit and don’t have shitty 4chan discord drama with fixing and lying and rrats and such

>>16669513
when you're the absolute lowest common denominator of humanity and are happy to wallow in it I can't imagine a better deal than a hapa vtuber that panders directly to you and seems to tie her self-worth to how receptive you are to said pandering

>>16669513
It's literally because
>She is LIKE ME

>>16669513
Who's the chuuba you're trying to shill? Maybe I'll check her out (if it's not that retarded slut Mal)

>>16669513
Different flavors Pete

In situations like this, it's good to remember where the rubber meets the road. Kiki streams. Her streams are entertaining. She doesn't beg for money. She discourages drama. I don't see any reason to believe anything nefarious is happening, and if there is, does it really matter if it literally never manifests itself? It's like saying "There's a really nasty booger in the middle of the Andromeda Galaxy, so the whole galaxy is gross, take my word for it, stop stargazing at Andromeda" -- even if it was true, in what tangible way would it ever fucking matter if you never see a booger through your telescope? Or something, idk, this is all retarded

>>16669884
I'm surprised this many people actually gave a shit about Kiki, being /here/ apparently is an instant way to garner fans.

>>16669659
gfe clipfag western chuuba
rule of thumb is to avoid all vtubers that rely on simps instead of talent, but go wild

>>16651742
>sympathy
We don't need it, we're happier than you are

>>16670193
That's an odd name, but I guess I'll put it into search. Is she on YT or Twitch?

>>16670293
I'm guessing twitch as youtube returns nothing.

>>16669659
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCu1INzefw3R7M9-3QEHYmMQ
Only Nene

HAHAHAHAHA I told you this would happen.

>>16667079
Is any of this supposed to be difficult to believe

>>16667079
>the CyberLive moderation team (one being a pedophile groomer doxfag), potentially multiple of their talents, Beatani and other ADULT women ganged up to bully and isolate a "mentally ill underage" girl.
Based. I will now watch Cyberlive

>>16670445
Her voice reminds me of someone, I cant put my finger on it

>>16652388
QHAHHWHAAHA. I TOLD YOU. I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS SHE WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE. I TOLD YOU SOMETHING WAS OFF ABOUT HER. AND LOOK WHO WAS RIGHT "CHAMPYONS" SHES A FAKE AND A FRAUD AND SHOULD BE PUT UP AGAINST THE WALL AND SHOT LIKE THE AUSSIE FAGGOT THAT SHE IS. GET. FUCKED. HAHAHAHHAAHAHA.

>>16670702
meds

>>16669884
>does it really matter if it literally never manifests itself?
If the leaks are true then that means that she has been constantly lying about everything, that she conveniently injured herself when the leaks started to drop, and that while her fans were worried about her health she lied to them again, and even told them she loved them

All the shit that has been leaked is literally a nothing burger for any other vtuber that doesn't rely on the GFE shit (leaving aside the underage thing, of course), but Kiki has built her entire community using those lies as a base, and if you add on top of that all the stuff about her spine she comes at least as a very manipulative person

If you tell me that you love her and you wouldn't find wrong or nefarious if she was lying about not having a boyfriend, Lumi's mod being more than just a friend, using plenty of discord servers behind her fans' backs or even joining the fucking server of another vtuber and having private conversations with their fans (all of this while giving to the champyons the image that she lives only for them and that she wouldn't give attention to anyone else), then I simply wouldn't believe you

Again, if the leaks are true that means she has lied about a fucking ton of things that were critical for the champyons. In that case, where do the lies end? How old is she? If she is underage why did she talk about her father helping her out with castlevania? did she lie about that too? does she even talk with her parents about the champyons? if not, did her mother write the message in the chat? if not, did she injured her spine the other day? if not, did she really injured her spine at all?

>lol it doesn't matter
is as retarded as
>lol it's fake

If you like her just accept her fuck ups and move on

>>16670907
>If you like her just accept her fuck ups and move on

.... Yeah, that's basically the tldr of my original post, friend. Kiki streams so often, behaves so clingy and devoted, is so autistic, that I really, really believe she may be a clingy, devoted autist. The assertion of this thread is "but she actually has a boyfriend, and is LYING!!!! ABOUT MANY STUFF!!!!!!" And yeah, exactly what I'm saying is, "You could have fooled me." The bitch streams constantly, and when she's not streaming, she's tweeting and watching /Pyon/ like a hawk. Watch her streams, she very obviously reads Every. Single. Post. If she does have a boyfriend, or whatever the supposed transgression is, then kudos to her for apparently having the best time and relationship management in history. I'm here for entertainment and she maintains the illusion flawlessly.

>>16672198
>.... Yeah, that's basically the tldr of my original post
Not at all. There's a difference between
>she lied and was clearly manipulating us for her personal gain, but I still care for her and I'm willing to give her another chance
and
>I'm happy living a lie! It's just entertainment for me!

>>16672198
You don't understand, this anon desperately needs you to acknowledge his rrat, he worked so hard on it and everyone is just ignoring it. It's driving him a little crazy as you can see in this thread

>>16669513
If the "fanbase reflects the oshi" mantra has any weight (it sometimes does to a surprising degree) perhaps a bunch of her fans are themselves underage, mentally or physically, to still cling to her just because of some edgy garbage which she doesn't even actually believe in but just wants them to like her by any means necessary. She is desperate for validation but so are those people she targets desperate for reinforcement of their retarded caricature views on things. Of which she provides comfort for them in that manner. She's the /here/ chubba for naive trashy newfags.

>>16673327
Did you even read what he wrote? You know how to read, right? I'm not even trying to make him acknowledge anything, I'm discussing his point of view about this topic
I know that champyons love to ask for evidence and then ignore it, but you should at least try to read the posts you are replying to