/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16654770
They've always been into it.

>>16654770
As a deadbeat I can't stand that kind of conduct.

Kek, she seething hard.

>>16654770
they are all for it, western fans are just retarded like this. I gave EN vtubers a chance but I'm starting to realize everything people doomposted before holoEN debuted is basically coming true slowly.

>>16654770
She is being dumb but i am interested how far she can do this until management steps in.
t.deadbeat

based desu

>>16654770
Look at those pathetic canadians

>>16654770
I see...so this is how she wants to play a game huh?

>>16654906
All the way cause management doesn't gives a fuck about EN. EN is nothing more than a money printer to them and their talents are no different than your typical twitch streamer.

>>16655000
I don't think so. There is probably gonna be a point where they step in especially if it spirals out of control.

>>16655000
Kiara has been stopped from doing way less egregious stuff

>just be cool guys is it that hard to be cool?
maybe you should just "be cool".
this is really petty and just going to make the issue worse. she should of just ignored the entire thing. what a fucking idiot.

>>16654905
>I'm starting to realize everything people doomposted before holoEN debuted is basically coming true slowly
Same.There won't be a final yab, but a slow progression towards mediocrity.

>>16654770
I already donate to the guys I shit on so it makes no difference to me. I only do this to make cuckbeats in this board seethe kekekek

>>16655134
Instead of ignoring she lies through her teeth to protect a faggy "variety streamer" at the expense of her coworkers whom she professes to call "her friends".
She must think very lowly of the rest of EN if it's come to this.
And I used to think Kiara was the divisive one holy shit I was wrong.

>>16654905
Pretty much.
I imagine they were given some tighter instructions and were walking on eggshells near the start but now they've grown big enough that there'll be plenty of sycophants to defend them whatever happens, they increasingly don't give a shit.
It's only ever gonna get worse.

>>16655081
Speculative but I think that's just because she asks management first, Mori seems to just do things more often where management stepping in afterwords could look bad.

>>16655134
She can't separate her IRL friends from her job, and her whole idea is ruinined by somebody using cashback.

So what happens if someone akasupas talking shit about NijiEN given that their interaction with the branch is a corporate mandated no go.

Might be funny to try wink wink.

>>16655051
Perhaps, I personally doubt it on the case of mori.
>>16655081
That's cause Kiara actually interacts with the jp girls. Even Gura knows more jp than mori at this point and she doesn't even live there.

Why did Connor spark this? Because he talked shit about Hololive? Or is just something about Mori in general. I see her getting akas shitting on something she does/people linked here the most.

>>16654770
>is this what cuckbeats are into now?
>now

>>16654988
Maybe do something better with your time and money?

>>16654770
Can I get a QRD on why Mori's giving backlash? Last I saw of this stuff was some Jew sending like $500 to call her antisemitic and now this.

>>16655323
No. I Iike this.

>>16655224
And nothing you do is going to stop it.
This "drama" will be forgotten in a month
Keep seething faggots.

Anti thread alert

>>16654770
what was the super chat she "slipped up" on and accidentally read?

>>16655252
its pretty sad. her attitude sucks. I honestly don't care much about the whole Connor thing I think he and his buddies are faggots and their podcast blows. but she's free to do whatever. she could of just ignore and donate that money privately but she feels the need to make a public thing about it and I can't see anything positive coming from that.

>>16654770
Ahahahaha you fags lost hard. So hard the very thing you are trying to prevent is literally funded by you guys. You are a blight to hololive as much as whori and the deadbraps and of all the people you fags drag into your shit is kiara. I will now shit on you guys

Mori was always good at baiting SCs from her fans, now she found a way to bait them from anti retards. I respect it.

Lotta seething faggots in here.

>>16655318
male + youtuber + /vt/'s lack of meds

>>16655134
She really does just plod through things like a drunken elephant, doesn't she?

I'm sorry but you brought kiara into this so kindly fuck of discord kiddies

>>16655318
connor has shit talked hololive for years so people don't want to see a holo interct with him while they're working or using hololive accounts.
it got fired up cause connor said something incredibly stupid about hololive yet again without considering the fact that hololive obviously gets the most apllications out of any vtuber company and mori is blindly defending his shit take cause they're friends irl

>>16655414
a great analogy

Shit like this is likely to show how little upper management cares about what happens with EN.
It's good that they have freedom, but it's also why they get basically 0 support. Red headed-step-child of hololive.
Shit like this is why EN can't have nice things

>>16654905
Western degradation will obviously affect vtubers as well. Also what's this fetish western streamers have for reprimanding their chat? It's awkward as fuck to just be there chilling and out of the blue the streamer has to start virtue signaling, ruining everyone's mood.

>>16655414
So does your mom and no one calls her out on it. Go touch grass.

I smell lots of anti cope over here. Hand them over its not good for you bros....

>>16655392
What annoys me is that by her actions she's agreeing with that fag that they're all talentless hacks. She'd rather defend this guy calling her trash to her face lol.

>>16655396
Any fag that donated money to Mori is part of the problem is the first place, anybody who sends money to the person they are criticizing is a fucking retard. The non-braindead people who hate Mori are not sending money to her so she isn't giving their money to someone else. This nonsense that there are people who love Mori enough to support her but hate her friends enough to tell her is just not true.

>>16655449
What is with western chats being so fucking autistic they need to be reprimanded? Sorry your mom didnt hit you enough as a child.

>harass woman on the internet for talking to a boy
>she throws it back in your face
>/vt/ cries and plays the victim

>>16655459
>she's agreeing with that fag that they're all talentless hacks
No, she's agreeing that they wouldn't be as successful as they are if they weren't in Hololive, and that is undeniably true.

>>16655479
This has been lost on the deadbeats, and mori herself.

>>16655514
Omg sister, so true! She's a feminist hero!

>Oh nooooooo I'm getting bullied by mori
the absolute state of antis

>>16655134
This is how black women are, they cant fucking help themselves, they MUST inject their Ego into everything even if there is no benefit.
She's winning, shes so rich and successful that people will pay her money to say mean things to her. All she has to do is shut up and ignore it but she cant fucking do it. She HAS to "Clap Back" at the 1% of her viewers who actually have an issue with her.
Women do this shit all the time, fucking disgusting

>>16654770
Can't wait for this to backfire and people to start shilling their 2view oshis.

>>16654770
The antis got to her and now she's coping. I thought she was a little stronger than this.

>>16655494
You have to be over 18 to be here.

All I see is antis getting validated that they are getting under her skin

>>16654770
Lmao. People SHOULD do this now. After yt share and covers share she will be paying out of pocket to donate to whoever you guys want. I cant wait till she donates to nyanners!

>>16655575
not after what happened, the antis are coping now. Btfo'd out of /hlgg/

>>16655531
he said that hololive is the perfect example where you don't need to be a good streamer to get rons of views
his tiny brain forgot to consider that hololive gets tons of applications and have to vet them in the first place
you can't really lie on the application cause they actually check your footprint hence why there hasn't been anyone thats as clueless about the business as Subaru when she started since... Subaru

>>16655560
yeah they run of pure emotion and don't take a moment to consider anything logically. typical. this is why they should have male managers to set them straight, or apply "correction" when needed.

>>16655531
What? That is not the claim even remotely and there's no evidence it's true. The only way you could even pretend that your claim was true is if nobody outside of Hololive had the level of success that even the lowest person in Hololive has.

>>16654905
Give it up already, you'll never be Japanese

Fucking based. That's amazing.

>>16655514
They're not harassing, and it wasn't for talking to a boy. Keep using that cope if it makes you feel better though. The fact that mori thinks the rest of Hololive are talent-less and she doesn't hold them in as high esteem as some anituber trash will one day dawn on you. Evidently not today.

are there vtubers who hate mori? im going to do the same thing as her and donate to them to fund their hate.

>>16655531
A certain shark would like to have a talk with you.
Well no actually she wouldn't because unlike ya boi, she knows what success with the wrong crowd feels like and never wants to turn back.

>>16655439
was it so hard for Mori to just say "yeah, he said some very shitty things about my company, I disavow his statement"? this would probably still cause drama regardless but it's better than to defend the guy by shutting down a concerned fan

>anticonnor superchats are going directly to mori's BF now
bros...

>>16655348
>Mori hangs out with the C-word
>Virgin Weirdos are mad about it and sending super chats demanding her to stop, making jokes about her getting railed by the dude, ect
>She says "fuck you weirdos, stop being weird about who an anime girl talks to"

>>16655703
apparently so
she's clearly pretty dumb and has no experience in a sector where you are not supposed to sperg out like a moron

>>16655703
I mean it was too hard for her to just shut the fuck up and not say anything so of course she had to say something retarded instead.

>>16654770
So...she's admitting that the antis got under her skin. Still think it's funny how she's not okay with "nasty" comments towards her "friends", yet was completely fine with, and even defended, Connor and TT shittalking Hololive and HoloEN, HoloEN of which has her supposed "friends". Calli is a dumb, contradictory, hypocritical, retarded whore.

>>16655547
>>16655681
Aww did the mean anime girl hurt your widdle feewings?

With how they handle their managers differently, Mori could slip through her management and nonchalantly hop into a Vox stream while Kiara still desperately tries to convince Omega to let herself finally be with Pomu for one time.

>>16655717
Best part about it: She's loosing money over it if it ever comes to this.
Ya boi didn't think this one through now did she?

>>16655738
I don't even believe you believe this. Bait better next time.

>>16655717
Ok, hate all you want, I know it gives you life
But seriously where is the logic that connor is Calli's boyfriend? Talking to a guy doesn't equate to dating you know that right?

I thought Kiara was the worse one for the longest time. I would like to formally apologize to her. After this shitshow I have come to realize Calli is a stage 4 cancer.

Yeah, deep down Mori will be secretly glad that she has been handed a reason not to read every akasupa. So now she'll recieve the money without having to put in that extra effort.

>>16655770
Connor's comments were harsh but fair, while Calli's superchats are just plain tardseethe.

>>16655703
It was that simple. But instead she concocts a lie that he apologized to all of en personally and we know that's not true since kiara said so and ame rightfully blocked his leeching ass months ago lmao

>>16655617
Shut up nyanners

>>16655770
Clearly her anti's aren't the only thing getting under peoples skin.
This whole threat is chaffed assbois getting mad.

>>16655318
>Because he talked shit about Hololive?
He kinda did, kinda didn't. Connor is surrounded by people who have holo-related controversy. TT i think had an older episode where they trashed vtubers/hololive or at least the fans but i'm not watching that shit so take it with a grain. His association with Vshojo puts him near Vei. So when he makes a statement of "If you get into hololive [by lying on your resume] you don't need talent/hard work because the audience is already there" it certainly sounds like he's trashing hololive, context included.
But nah dickweed doubles down "bro its taken out of context bro everyones retarded for taking it the wrong way you have no idea how this works" because he's a smug prick

>>16655614
This. She's basically just publicly revealed that trolls with deep pockets have successfully got under her skin. I don't think they will give a shit if their money goes to somebody else. It's mission accomplished for them.

>>16655815
you would think that connor's comments are fair if you have no idea who the chuuba roommates are

>>16654770
Your boy has a way with words!

I'm not seeing any well thought out retorts from the faggots defending her in this thread, I'm really starting to believe a lot of them are female fans of the SEA variety mainly because they make up a lot of the weeb/anime community who would be into vtubers for stuff like shipping.

>>16655815
Connor, who is a retard who lucked out with the algorithm called other streamers who lucked out with the algo talentless trash. He is literally an 80 IQ monkey who would have to be read aloud a book. Mori is a alcoholic who now lives in a very tiny expat bubble because of her autism and retarded american rapper contrarian mindset. She will soon start twitch streaming and dragging twitch leeches all over Cover.

>>16655815
Connor is a complete scumbag anon, and it's not a vtuber problem he's straight up a scumbag with everyone even in his podcast and own channel, and also he's the only one people are complaining about, I don't know what's with this "mori's friends" when it's just him, do you ever see anyone insulting gigguk or sydsnaps in her streams?

>>16655807
She wouldn't deepthroat his cock that far unless she wanted his validation. It doesn't seem like one night stand material to me but maybe she really hates herself that much that she has to do this for a guy who already dumped her ass.

>>16654770
I really doubt that superchat was enough to make her this angry, it wasn't even nasty. I'm guessing she's egosearching here/twitter, and she's doing this just to make people seethe.

>>16655808
Same for me

>>16655703
>shutting down a concerned fan
Be honest, do you ACTUALLY believe it was 'a concerned fan', and not just a containment breaking retard looking for attention? This shithole will use any fucking excuse to start drama, constantly chasing for that 'LE FINAL YAB', so why the fuck would you think this is any different?

>>16655935
damn this is accurate as fuck

>>16655962
>Be honest, do you ACTUALLY believe it was 'a concerned fan'
apparently the dude had members for a year so... it could be either. If he was a first time member then maybe you'd have a point

>Mori get 100$ from an Anti
>Cover take a part
>Youtube take a part
>She get like 40$ out of it
>Give 100$ to make "anti-seethe"
Is Mori retarded ?

>>16655935
>tiny expat bubble
Her japanese is so bad she can't really afford to drop any English speaking friends who live there, even if they talk shit about hololive

>>16655915
It doesn't matter who the roommates are. Cover could draft a homeless woman incapable of forming coherent sentences and she'd get hundreds of thousands of subscribers before her first stream. You know it's true and that's what Connor said. If you get in, you've made it.

>b-but you don't get in unless you're talented
Irrelevant, Connor said nothing about this in his hypothetical. You've deluded yourself into having a meltdown over things that weren't said.

>>16654770
>send huge co-ordinated superchats saying how Sana, Anya, Iofi, Reine, Risu, AZKi, Aki and Mel should all just graduate
>clips circulate of Mori dropping huge chunks of money on their streams and being forced to publicly declare how much she loves them
>viral clips of their reactions to the money drops from Mori sees their numbers skyrocket
Saviourfags assemble

>>16655962
>Be honest, do you ACTUALLY believe it was 'a concerned fan'
Not that anon, but yes, I do. It's a legitimate concern.

I really can't believe people are defending this.

HoloEN fans have got to be the bitchiest, whiniest group of people I've encountered online

>>16656039
>she'd get hundreds of thousands of subscribers before her first stream
and how many of them would stick around as she inevitably talked about sharing needles or shagging for housing or whatever other bullshit homeless people get up to?

>>16656018
Kek

>>16655924
There's a shocking amount of roast beef in this thread if you know how cunts type and argue

>>16655962
Yes, a containment breaker would have been a lot harsher.

>>16655703
Did you see her respond to the Jew? She's legimately retarded and sucks at doing PR. How the fuck this girl had a job before Hololive is surprising to me. Good thing she moved to Japan and can't speak Japanese cause she is terrible at dealing with any negative comments.

>>16656061
This right there. This is the plan.
Fucking Mori over and helping out some other holos at the same time.
She should be fine with this, after all she likes supporting smaller creators no?
And cover gets a 60% cut. Kek.

>>16655955
While we all agree she does dumb shit because she hates anyone who questions her and will always quadruple down, I really don't think she has any idea what people here say. There's no way she could handle it with how badly she handled that benign superchat in the moment.

idolLARP and unicorns are a cancer on the world and any streamer that pushes back is automatically based

>>16656105
Probably a lot more than if she was an indie. If you listened to what the guy actually said, you'd know he went over this. But you just listened to a 15 second clip and are now multiple days deep into rage session.

>>16656018
yes

>>16655770
Has anyone actually got a clip of what Connor even said? It doesn't surprise me for him to say something bad, as getting irrationally mad at shit is his entire schtick, but this place has overreacted to nothing comments in the past too.

is... EN... cringe?

>>16656018
Someone remake this with Moris face

>>16656018
>Anti chargebacks the card
Left out this part anon.

>>16656157
I'm actually 8 days deep into gura withdrawal and just seeing whats in the catalog but you do you bud

>>16656018
>had a full on conversation with a bench, an inanimate object
Yes

>>16654770
Remember when /vt/ said Kiara will be EN's harbinger of death? Remember when /vt/ predicted Kiara will be doing everything Mori's doing right now?

I'm still waiting for an apology.

>>16655494
Did you ever learn sticks and stones may break my bones?

>>16656105
Fuck I want a homeless drug addled chuuba now.

>>16654770
>management gets a cut from supas
>part of the donated money comes therefore from regular SCs since she will donate the same amount

>>16656156
You have to go back, this incident has literally nothing to do with fucking unicorns or idol culture and no bending over backwards to sniff your own ass will change that.

>>16656039
It's obvious that Connor is right but that's irrelevant. What he said was an obviously disparaging dig at the company and coworkers Mori works for and with. She should obviously denigrate him for it but she has so little regard for the company that saved her fucking life that she can't do it.

>>16656240
i have been reluctantly kneeling to the true idol of holoen for months anon.

>>16655614
They shit up the Calli threads and get her to seethe on stream. They are winning

>>16656039
>It doesn't matter who the roommates are.
>Connor said nothing about this in his hypothetical.
Except that his argument was that you don't need to be a good streamer and can just lie your way into hololive
Do you really think they do not look at who the rommates are before they invest in them?
Are you seriously trying to argue that hololive just blindly throws darts at the board despite obviously getting the most applications?

>>16656200
He said that if you get in Hololive, it's instant success. Ironmouse and him were talking about importance of applications and how you should probably embellish your accomplishments a little because it's extremely important to get your foot in, and he brought up Hololive as an example where if you get in, you are basically guaranteed to succeed as a vtuber.

>>16656287
You got mad over nothing and are now rationalizing your retarded position. Please write Connor an apology on Twitter.

>>16654770
Did anyone expect anything else from a wigger whore that applied to hololive as "a joke" and hated doing her job for almost a year. Fuck this cunt. Never liked her. Whenever I said I hope someone else got in instead of her I was called a "seething 2view".

>>16656039
>Cover could draft a homeless woman incapable of forming coherent sentences and she'd get hundreds of thousands of subscribers before her first stream.

and I would be one of them. A Terry M. Davis Vtuber would be amazing.

>>16656271
Shes so fucking stupid for not seeing the obvious hole in her logic.

>>16656287
It is not. There are tons of talented girls in Hololive.
Artists, singers, entertainers, courtesans.
The less appealing ones can still become barely above 2view tier like Iofi.

>>16656200
His comment literally describes Mori. It's not actually all that offensive, people just hate Mori for defending it while actually believing it doesn't apply to her. The superiority complex she has about how superior she is to vtubers is ridiculous since she'd be dead in a ditch if she wasn't one.

>>16656240
As a chumbud i have to unironically apologize to kiara and kfp.

>>16656331
No but you see Cariope gets the money anyways so she's gonna brag about the money and how she can donate it away so she's the winner. Fucking female wigger attitude

Heh... Shitting...

>>16656018
>thinks she'd forward $100 and not $40

>>16656370
What he said was that in a hypothetical scenario where you manage to get yourself into Hololive, you will make it even if you aren't a good streamer. He said nothing about their actual hiring practices. He said that you get a lot of subscribers and viewers just by the merit of being a part of Hololive. He didn't comment on their actual hiring practices.

>>16656240
I've always supported Kiara and thought her heart was in the right place despite some blunders here and there. Shame people still sperg out about her.

>>16656439
she is that dumb at this point

>>16656439
Well she'll have to do it publicly so she'll look like a bitch if she doesn't match it.

She's doubling down on defending self-serving grifters and being adversarial with her own fanbase?
Jesus, that has to be a new low
I almost feel bad for the cuckbeats, I myself even thought that she had gotten better the last few months.

>he's the only one people are complaining about
I think this needs to be restated more. This isn't about unicorns complaining that their oshi is in contact with males, at least not for the most part.
This is about Mori associating with a dishonest, two-faced con-man.

>>16656240
see >>16655808

>>16655795
I just hope after this management shows a bit more appreciation for Kiara and gives her some leeway. It’s the best thing that could come out of this situation.

>>16656132
Shh let the cuckbeats have this final cope that it couldn't possibly be one of their own with a legitimate concern!

>>16655948
>even in his podcast
Having watched some episodes myself, this is something I noticed very quickly. He's one of the most argumentative and self opinionated people I've ever had to displeasure to listen to. I wonder if actual fans of TT think the same way.

>>16656473
Kiara is annoying, loud and obnoxious. But you can tell she genuinely loves being in Hololive. So she has that going for her.

>>16655833
Timestamp for Kiara statement?

>>16656525
anituber fans have shit for brains so nah they probably love it. all their opinions come from influencers

>>16656156
You have room temp iq
this has nothing to do with any of that

>>16656240
When their only critique to you is your voice, I know in heart what you're doing is the best thing.