/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>I-IL SPAM AND SPAM AND KEEP SPAMMING KEKBEATS
>I WILL ANNOY YOU
>YOU WILL RECOGNIZE MY EXISTENCE
>MY PARENTS LOVE ME
>EVERYONE IS A DEABEAT YOU ARE A DEABTEASAF EHA US OEN
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>16615290
Me as dma deadbeat when i meet her in japan

Not gonna lie, former deadbeat here. This is fucking hilarious watching Mori crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this reaper collab with Connor.

>>16615290
have you fallen out of being a virgin yet, though?

Don't know if I'd call myself a deadbeat, but I followed her after debut until the first TT podcast and had the good sense to unsub and move on.

ratio

I think Mori is a fun streamer, but too easily attracts massive amounts of retardation. Whether through Antis or fans she just has the worst fucking people talking about her

>>16615290
This is the internet, you could be a pedophilic necrophilia and you would not be alone. Learn to make better bait.

>>16615290
i haven't been a fan since the beginning but you do you op

I was, mori was my favorite for a few weeks

>>16616424
Twitter nigger

>>16615290
I think it was until about June that I gave up. This was back during her "taking it easy" phase where she did nothing but the most boring, no-effort streams for weeks while playing interesting games off-stream.

>>16615290
Nah I'm ride or die with Mori

>>16616623
That's a very, very specifict example to bring up anon, got anything to tell us

her lack of femininity didn't allow me to fell in love with her in the first place

Some people still enjoy being living condom dispensers I suppose. They even prep the bull and pay for the privilege! NijiEN operates on the same principle.

>>16615290
She likes Connor more than all of her fans put together, either accept that or leave her. I choose the latter.

>>16615290
In her heart of hearts she wants to be in the cool kids Twitch clique and she'll never grow out of it. She's surrounded by people who tell her Hololive is cringe and gay and she internalizes it and isn't satisfied by her role even if it brought her massive success because the people who she wants validation from do not take vtubing seriously.

>>16616623
Can I get a gf into cuckqueaning dykes and futa girls cum inflating lolies

>>16615290
That means you're normal. People would say that they're gonna be a fan of their oshi forever but that's bullshit. Any normal human being will be bored within 3 years. When that happens, expand your horizon or take a break from watching vtubers

>>16616949
You couldn't read her more wrong

What's with this narrative that she secretly hates Hololive? Just because it's not your main focus in life doesn't mean you're not dedicated to it. She started as a rapper and that was always her main purpose. Her being ambitious isn't a bad thing either, if anything rubbing shoulders with big twitch streamers gives more exposure to Hololive. But to you people it's the wrong kind of exposure I guess.

>>16617196
>it's the wrong kind of exposure
Exactly.

A million percent they are fucking in real life. Apparently he came around to her apartment and drunk all of her booze. Once you learn the truth it’s easier to move on.

>>16615290
she's always just been the cool chick I don't really hang out with all the time but it's always fun when she's around. My opinion on Calli has not changed since the debut except I'm glad she dropped the teehee.

i don't know if people are shitposting or this board is infested with teenager redditors

>>16617361
Connor did or trash tastes?

>>16617712
Both but majority are redditors and Twitter cringelords.

>>16615290
Became KFP after I saw how much of an asshole she was to Kiara.

https://streamable.com/eknk5y

How can someone lie so much to a friend?

>>16615290
Everyone who isn't into NTR dropped Mori Callie-thot

>>16617196
>if anything rubbing shoulders with big twitch streamers gives more exposure to Hololive
And why the fuck would I want that? I'm not a shareholder, I don't own stock in Cover, so why the fuck would I want them to get more "exposure"? So more dumb niggers can shit up their chats even more? Wow, thanks.

>>16615290
You were never a deadbeat to begin with

>>16617923
damn

>>16617196
I genuinely think Hololive doesn't really need exposure from Trash Taste, if anything it's the other way around since Gura now is bigger than damn near any anime-related channel on Youtube.

>>16617196
>TT clique
>Big twitch streamers
T. Condom dispenser
If instead Connor was Charlie then I would get you but the TT circle are at best c tier on the ranking of Twitch cliques.
Their major saving grace is that they are backed by Kadokawa, which can help her in the anime world, not the rap one.
Like at best, she could get to be the singer for the ED of another seasonal isekai trash and that's it.

I really liked her in the beginning when she was awkward and dorky. Eventually she gained confidence and now has a swagger, almost arrogant attitude from her success. Which is totally fine and deserved in many ways. It's just not for me so I just kinda stopped watching.
I would not of called myself a deadbeat though, just a fan, Mori was never my oshi.

>>16617923
>https://streamable.com/eknk5y
Is there more of these? She seems like doesn’t like Kiara.

>>16615290
Me when TT arc started.

I'm listening to the Jump King stream and she sounds so normie rn talking about IRL shit. How the FUCK is Cal a Hololive lmfao. That one guy never should've apologized, she is proving him exactly right. There are English indie chuubas who care more about staying in character than Calliope.

Literally just a boring white trash dime-a-dozen e-girl behind an anime avatar.

Also lol, retards are still sending her "nasty, hateful" SCs. Just don't give her money.

>>16619331
I haven't seen her change much at all, I feel like people saying she was "dorky and cute" were coping hard. Some of her bitchy behavior has always been there.

>>16619985
Reminder, most JP vtubers are fans of normie content and they share and laugh at normie content, not to mention they most likely hate people like us here in 4chan considering jp has other forums similar to this that garnered toxicity towards them
So yeah your oshi probably hates you and would likely go to reddit and laugh at the simplest things
>inb4 keep coping

>>16617997
We're reaching idolfaggotry levels never seen before

>>16617923
I love Kiara's expressions on this.

>>16616573
>constantly does and says shitty things that gradually make more and more people hate her
>YOU DON'T GET IT! IT'S THE PEOPLE'S FAULT! PEOPLE ARE JUST TRASH!!!!

>>16620414

>>16615290
I fell back in love with her when she started making schizos seethe

>>16619985
Like this schizo right here

>>16617923
wtf i love mori now

>>16617923
Stone cold.

She really needs to graduate.

mori talking about alcoholism VT going to love this shit

>>16615290
I was a day one deadbeat, and I fell out for multiple reasons.
One being that she never streams at good times for me so streams were more of an inconvenience, a lot of her streams didn't interest me anymore, and finally it was painfully obvious she's baiting akas
Still give her $4 out of respect/ minor stockholm syndrome I can't make myself unmember

>>16619985
You should akasupa this to her anon

>>16615290
>fell out of love/burned out
9:1 odds that you lost interest when you found out she talks to men.

>>16620286
JP normie culture and globohomo normie culture aren't the same.

>>16621800
I think you meant to reply to >>16620495
Do it, cuck. Send her an akasupa right now, and make sure it's extra dicksucking so daddy Mori reads it on stream.

>>16617923
It's the mindset of "I don't have to fulfill these social responsibilities. It's better to make her believe I listened to it than to admit I haven't been keeping up with her."
I'm sure she considered it a white lie.

>>16622035
i dunno man the only homo around here is (You). you're definitely right about not being normal, though.

>>16621716
>Still give her $4 out of respect/ minor stockholm syndrome I can't make myself unmember
Be sure to buy the new deadbeat shirt when it releases!

>>16622279
The "King Cover" Kiara posted was a rickroll, so she knows how badly Mori is lying. I like her eyes movements.

>>16622315
grandpa humor/10

>>16617923
Is there more clips like this?

>>16619791
no because they stopped interacting

>>16621716
hows she baiting akas?
t.I dont watch fucking mori

>>16617923
jesus christ how could you sentence yourself to watching that shrieking banshee just because she's retarded.

>>16622900
I love chicken and she makes me happy.

>>16622890
they're all baiting donations at any given moment that SCs are not disabled. Find me anyone that ignores an aka lmao

>>16622488
You know what? Yeah I'll take the L I can't recover from this. I really gotta get over myself and let her go

>>16622974

jesus christ have you considered huffing glue that'd probably make you happy as well if kiara is any indication.

>>16622802
I noticed a while ago they basically don't talk at all anymore.

>>16623066
>he doesn't like Kiara
This is what gay sex does to a person

Now that I see all these people dropping Mori I'm unironically getting interested. What are some good videos of hers? Or should I not even start if I'm not interested in the music

>>16615290
subscribed day one but just unsubbed, too poor to member or dono so who gives a fuck but this new spite route is just really weird and I didn't really care about the connor stuff in the first place. Just genuinely feels like she cares more about him than all of the deadbeats.

>I will be the last deadbeat
Based!

>>16623485
paypigs will never leave and probably gets some twisted joy out of treating them like shit and still rolling in aka supas lmao

Doubly awkward for Kiara. Not only is her friend lying to her face, but she's on stream and has to somehow keep it light hearted. She handled it like a pro.

>>16623393
>Now that I see all these people dropping Mori I'm unironically getting interested.
If you are getting interested because others are not, I suggest you watch todays stream, she's already mentioned Connor and Ludwig in addition to Holostars. Also whined about people calling her an alcoholic.

>>16615290
Feel out because she start to hang with he who shell not be named and the tt to much for my taste. Also her being lying asshole didnt help since it's clear she dosnt care.

>>16623393
Start by watching the comfy Jump King stream she's doing right now. She's being cute and sleepy punctuated by screams of anguish

>>16623485
wow a person on the internet cares more about a person they have met irl and are friends with than individual chatters they've never met, talk about whore behavior

>>16615290
you will never love a irl autist

>>16620449
I mean I wont say that she doesn't say retarded ass shit, but it's extremely amplified by anti shitposts and her shitty chat going over the top agreeing with her garbage ass takes. She needs a new manager that isn't her friend and will actually put their foot down when needed instead of slurping her shit.

>>16623393
Good luck, cuck. I could never really pick her up because of how boring she is and how bad she is about handling negativity/trolls.

>>16624305
one of these groups pay her salary

>>16624504
LOL, when troll get feeling hort cuz they got called out. Fragile cunts

>>16622974
i love kiara takanashi

>>16624517
not everyone in the latter group has an autistic fit over her talking to somebody she likes. maybe you should just grow up lol

>>16624504
>how bad she is about handling negativity/trolls.
She laughs at and mocks trolls. Is that why you're butthurt?

I burned out of vtuber in general

>>16624963
based anti-fan thread enjoyer

>>16624649
copium more

I like her more now because she doesn't give a fuck anymore, which is more satisfying to watch

>>16625276
i can assure you, fans of vtubers that don't shit their pants when they talk to a male have nothing to cope about. they were born normal.

>>16622802
Actually their post-takamori era are much more enjoyable to watch

I don't begrudge deadbeats for having a cuck fetish - to each their own. I just wish they were more honest with themselves about it

>>16625424
i don't watch vtubers to pretend i have a girlfriend. the delusion isn't there so i don't act like a retard when something completely inconsequential happens.

>>16625534
What do you watch them for?

>>16617923
Friendly reminder that she would never defend kiara when getting attacked left and right by antis in the early days but did so to the TT faggots

>>16625424
Niji-cuck-nigger looking hard for comradery

>>16625413

>fans of vtubers
> born normal

damn you are hard on that copium right now lmao

>>16624587
>>16624860
Neither of you have been listening to this most recent stream have you? Lmao. She's been cranky and cracking under pressure.

>>16625618
Entertainment, like i would a normal streamer. Hard to understand, i know, but people like me do exist. Mostly outside /vt/ tho

>>16625627

everyone in the universe wants kiara to graduate without even a final stream

>>16625618
the same reason anyone normal watches a live streamer. is it that hard to understand?

>>16625687
Ogey schizo, whatever the voice in your head tells you.

>>16622900
At least she loves Hololive

>>16625687
>16625687

i am not an alcoholic i just like to drink a lot but i haven't had a drink in two (2) days so I can't be an alcoholic

>>16625424
This. It's basically her specialty at this point. At least the scatfags are honest about why they like Mori.

No joke i will kneel so hard if she tell that she dating Connor, even better having sex with him on stream. Imagine deadbeat reaction.

>>16625773
>>16625724
What's entertaining about watching a low-res anime girl who sucks at video games and can't interact with her chat?

I thought people here often laugh at the Japanese idol culture shit.

I followed her for probably the first 6 months, but >>16616919 mixed with all of the wigger cringe is pretty much what did me in.

>>16625943
What's not entertaining?

>>16615290
She interacts with men and I am not having any of that.

>>16625819
>i am not an alcoholic i just like to drink a lot but i haven't had a drink in two (2) days so I can't be an alcoholic
Yeah that was hilarious, she was bragging like 2 days of not-drinking was a major accomplishment

>>16625983
this will shock you but there is more than one person on here.

>>16625943
the same thing that's entertaining about watching any person who sucks at video games? also idk about what streamers you're watching but i sure as hell don't watch any that can't interact with their chat.

>>16623485
I don’t understand why ignoring the hate just isn’t an option with these internet people. Do comments from strangers really cut so deep that the money and the love from fans don’t cut it.

>>16626106
Any hololive streamer can't meaningfully interact with their chat because it flies by too fast. They'll pick out random comments to read but there's no real conversation. Watch any indie streamer and you immediately see the difference.

>>16625807
Post a vocaroo of you saying "ogey rrat".

>>16625627
Over one fucking show too

I became one (Deadbeat) after I heard what happened.

Holy fuck, how can one vtuber be so based?

>>16625819
I mean, if you’re not lying in the street at 2am in the morning after beating your wife half to death are you really an alcoholic?

>>16626221
some just invent things they assume the chat would say and respond to that.

>>16626512
yes there are tons and tons of functional alcoholics. most alcoholics are probably functional alcoholics.

I dislike her because she clearly doesn't respect hololive and the drama free streaming culture and brings up the drama on stream. She is literally lowkey talking about the drama constantly

Fuck her

>>16626656
The anon you replied to was being sarcastic.

>>16626025
Mori's a severe alcoholic in denial. That's a real reason to criticize her.

>>16626689
i am fucking retarded

>>16626675
>Mori says something innocuous
>you rush to 4chan and try to create drama about it
>how dare she bring up drama
lmao

I didn't care about her before the Jump King arc
but now i think she's pretty cool

>>16626989
...do you think /vt/ is hololive or something or why are you comparing the two? I dont want to be obligated to browse this place to know what the fuck the holo is talking about

>>16626989
yeah, if talking about the drama was what caused the drama, Ayame would never be in the catalog

>>16617196
>secretly
It's not a secret at all.

The remaining handful of deadbeats are really displaying their own schizoposting rn.

>>16615290
I've always wondered how many of those Canadians in 2020 who sent her hundreds if not thousands of dollars in support ever felt buyers remorse, especially in her activity lull where she just kind of fucked off for weeks

>>16627226
I'd love to know too, I remember that. At the time I didn't understand why there was so many Canadians giving before I realized Canada has a big mommy fetish.

>>16626675
RESPECC

>>16623717
I like Kiara's content but find her voice kind of grating and I don't have a lot of time to just watch vtubers AND her hours are terrible for me. These days, I just have them on for background noise and Calli is one of the easier ones to listen to and also typically streams at convenient hours for me. There are other streamers I prefer, like I love Gura singing streams but I can't catch them often. Ina is comfy AF but I find her difficult to catch too and even when she is on, her content isn't great as background noise because I'm too interested in what she's doing. I recently think Mumei chatting and singing streams are great, like her chatting and playing around with filters and autotune gives me the same vibes as Odd Tinkering YouTube channel where the guy just restores old consoles without saying a word and the only noises are him working on the consoles and it's pretty awesome NGL. Also she streams at hours that I can catch often.

>>16627414
There were still plenty of NEETs that didnt use their stimulus check after all

>>16624517
>one of these groups pay her salary
My work pays my salary and you're fucked if you think I give more of a shit about my job than I do my friends and family.

>>16628194
Ofc, if u lose the job then the friends and family will be delicious.
Certainly not the end of the universe

>>16628194
if you're physically at your job and supposedly working but always put your friends and family above your job you won't have that job for much longer

>>16625730
I guess the universe is small when it's just you and your podcaster "friends", mori.

>>16622890
Personally from my experience she always put more emphasis on akas, only reading them and treating them special.
Sure it's fine that she only reads reds with how much she gets, but she always gives them way more attention. When she did her drinking game streams at least one rule usually centers around akas. She also goes out of her way of telling emphasizing how "chad" people are for sending aka supas with no messages.
Maybe there's mroe, maybe I'm delusional, but it kinda rubbed me the wrong way when one of the things that attracted me to Mori was her modesty and telling people to not spend so carelessly on her

>>16628880
turns out she likes money and akas are the biggest money

any single time any of them say "you don't need to superchat" they're saying that for image. they want everyone to spend every dime they can.

>>16628880
Didnt Mori try to divide her member streams to tiers or something?
Anyway only reading akas isnt that uncommon for bigger chuubas

>>16628194
Based, fuck the jews who disagree

>>16628488
>supposedly working but always put your friends and family above your job you won't have that job for much longer
I've worked at the same company for 12 years and I've always put friends and family over my job. The trick is to never work for someone who doesn't care enough about you to be able to put your friends and family first. Obviously, this is a two way street and you shouldn't just bend over for people who will just take advantage of you but any company worth working for understands that you sometimes just need to be elsewhere to deal with stuff.

>>16628194
I agree with you it's a weak argument that she should care about her employer more than the guy using her as a cumdumpster, most people in any company have very little love for their employer. But, people who do have jobs definitely get rubbed the wrong way by people like Calli who openly shit on their employer and co-workers constantly and just get more money as a result.

>>16629060
*needing to be somewhere and then you'll make up for it later* is one thing

this isn't that. no one is going "no mori you can't reschedule that stream because you need to help your friend out" it's why are you shitting on your fans in character at your job in favor of some random

>moved to twitch so that she can raid Connor
How thoughtful of her

>>/vt/thread/S4590124#p4593467
https://streamable.com/ydsmof
This was when I dropped her.
She was absolutely stupid in thinking that she could overcome the physical distance between her and Gura and she really showed how just how spiteful she was, ignoring the advice in her comments.
Not to mention she did his in front of Gura who had to just go along with it.

>>16629451
did she or whats this about?

>>16629500
holy shit. Why cant she just shut up about that kind of stuff?

>>16629724
When something makes Mori mad, she seethes about it for weeks and then makes a point of spiting it in public. She's very immature.

>>16615290
She's the one that got me more into Hololive when she released Off With Their Heads. She seemed interesting and I liked the motivational pull towards her "haters" presented as being above them, but wanting them to reach up to her by putting in effort. Then her album after it had another song about her haters, and how above them she is,. Then came two breaks after backlash where the haters got to her and her attitude was mostly reflecting the criticism she got.

The few collabs of hers were always pretty bad. Like she didn't like any of the people she got stuck with. Getting people's character details wrong that you'd know if you so much as looked at their artwork, like mistaking what animal Reine is and calling her 'senpai." Never got the impression she's enjoying what she's doing at any point and feels like it's a thing she has to do out of obligation because it pays bills. Which is fine and all, but I don't feel like wasting my time watching someone who doesn't want to be there and keeps being ruled and basing her schedules and attitudes on proving da haters wrong.

She's gotten "better" as a streamer since I stopped watching, or at least, that's what I see when she's in a collab with holo members I still watch. But a lot of feels like it's coming from her just not giving a shit and being detached rather than anything really positive.

Still interested in her roommate's next bunch of songs though. Her last album ended on an anthem about sticking to what you love and not giving up in the face of adversity. Made in a time it probably felt like she was stuck at her ceiling, with minor success but not to the extent she'd hoped for. I'm curious what kind of music she'd even make now that she's "made" it, but not in the capacity she hoped for. If she even still has it in her to be that honest.

>>16629521
Check her ongoing stream, the first part is like an open letter to vt.

>>16630966
Yeah I watched some of it but I didnt catch her talking about streaming on twitch

>>16630214
Inb4 her roomate song that she is forshadowing turns out to be an open letter to vt

>>16628994
She still has those tiers, from $4 to $30 CAD. She would divide her membership content in those tiers, but I remember hearing something about stopping that so idk if she still does.
Yeah I know it's normal for someone like her to prioritize aka supas since she gets so much I don't find a problem with that, but I personally felt like she was fishing for them more
with what I said about her drinking games and what not, because honestly she knows there's those deadbeats who will aka just for the hell of it. I've never seen such bigger
paypigs during my time watching her streams

>>16631257
I never understood why anyone gave her money early on either way. Remember looking at her tiers early on when she labeled them after wine bottles. Except the price levels didn't quite add up. The 200 yen tier would be 5 bucks, which is closer to 500 yen. It just actively sounded like you're being ripped off while insinuating it's going to be wasted on alcoholism.

>>16623089
And that is a good thing
Keep this white nigger as far away as possible from the chicken

>>16615290
i followed her for a little bit because i thought she was going to do more music stuff on stream. i don't like her music, but i do like watching people do music nerd stuff

Unironically knew a bit of her work before Hololive, so thought it'd bleed over. Never really noticed just how much Kiara was protecting Mori from the very terrible decisions and opinions she's having now, with her being seemingly proud of binge drinking and chain smoking now

I don't want her to "learn her lesson", i want Mori to get better and hopefully pull herself out of whatever hole she fell in to

>>16632049
She's never gonna improve the drinking, because she's deluded herself into thinking "I'm not as alcoholic as my step dad, therefore I'm not an alcoholic at all! My body can survive for a few days without drinking, that's the proof!"

She doesn't accept that there is a problem, so it'll never be solved. And she'll never accept that there is a problem, because to do so would be to accept that she's similar to someone she dislikes.

>>16632120
step dad did her good

>>16632120
Sounds like a womanchild who has had many years away from home to grow and let go and has done none of that.
Maybe she moved because she could hear her step-dad creaking mom's headboard all the time.

>>16632440
I wouldn't agree with that entirely. She's grown a ton in a lot of ways. But she's got her hangups like everyone does, and definitely is immature in certain aspects.

>>16615290
I didn't like her but I do now so whatever she did she did right

>>16615290
can't blame her for being an am*rican (i think and don't actually care). she's simply not well-versed enough in idol culture to know not to suck off ecelebs on stream, to not overreact to criticism, and to talk about men she likes more than her own coworkers. she's just not cut out for the idol life IMO.

>>16633262
She knows what she's doing is wrong and is proud of it, she's the pinnacle of 'Murrican exceptionalism and will die in a gutter like the rest of them.

>>16633262
>she's simply not well-versed enough in idol culture
You'd think she'd understand it better after being an idol herself for more than a year. Not to mention having a best friend/coworker who was a huge idol fan. oh well.

>>16617923
If you count the number of time Mori has lied to Kiara, you tend to realize why they had a sort of falling out though. Now we know the real reason why Kiara-Mori """"""tete"""""" just disappeared. They're probably in a working relationship, but not that close on a personal level.

The only people I think are legitimately friends with other ENs is Gura and Kronii

>>16623089
Mori always talks to Kiara like she’s treading on thin ice or something.
I still recall that Mori pretty much ghosted Kiara for a month after she got back home to Europe.

>>16633262
>>16633454
Nothing implies that she doesnt understand what she is doing. She just doesnt give a shit

>>16633262
Most of what you said isn't even about idol culture. It's part of being a popular creator online. Which she's always dreamed of being. Though the more she's in the spotlight the way she is now, the clearer it is why her own behavior stopped her from reaching it on her own.

I laughed when she admitted she struggles to communicate to Kronii
Kronii puts up the I'm too cool for school shit as a comedy act, Mori actually tries to live that shit

>>16634710
Mori is a social autist, she was bullied in HS, etc.
So it's understandable. Hell, I would argue she's more introverted than Ina

Reading this thread, I realize you guys don't understand social anxiety, at all. I thought /vt/ was full of social retards like me?
Because Mori lying constantly is just her being socially retarded, that's all. There's no bad faith in it. She's just really bad at socializing that she copes with lying. I've seen it time and time again, it's a common thing with socially awkward people. At this point you could say Mori has a propensity to lie.

I thought Mori's social skills (lack of it) was what endeared her to many in /vt/?

>>16634847
I'm socially retarded but I'm also not one to lie directly to my friend's face and if I don't know what they're talking about I'll apologize profusely and ask them to explain what they mean

>>16634847
>Mori

For some reason female rap makes me cringe so I can't listen to her music, but she's obviously talented

>>16629363
>shitting on your fans in character at your job in favor of some random
When did she shit on her fans? Shit on (you) maybe but you're a worthless 4chan autist anyways so nothing of value was lost.

>>16634847
what the fuck no. smoothly navigating social situations by compulsively lying is not what "socially awkward people"

>>16635165
Are you an expert on socially awkward, also he said social anxiety fucking faggot

>>16635214

he used both terms learn you fucking retard goblin holy shit

>>16617196
>What's with this narrative that she secretly hates Hololive?
Secret? Lmao
She's openly lied to cover for someone that called everyone in hololive, her and her genmates included, talentless.
The fact that she lied to this fag's benefit to make him seem lessnof an asshole than he is, means she agrees with this sentiment instead of denouncing this take. The EN girls couldn't be blamed if they wanted nothing more to do with her after that.

>>16617196
>Connor shit talks hololive
>apologizes privately to mori but laughs at the fans with ironmouse
>mori has a paying fan ask about the situation
>mori tell this fan to fuck off and bans them
>this happen practically privately in a member stream
>mori publically apologizes to connor by giving him 200$
It's not at all a rrat. She hates hololive,

>>16635165
>>16634891
Then you aren't exposed to social anxiety and awkwardness enough
Remember that time Aqua lied about not being on the same train with other vtubers she was supposed to meet when in reality she was staring at them the whole trip? That's an example

>>16634847
cuckbeat rationalization. just leave the thread, it's evident that she can do no wrong, everything is just awkwardness or anxiety or autism in your eyes

>>16615290
Cover fags can you tell me how it feels that our vtuber agency has a welsh chad that Mori wants to fuck?

>>16635301
That's a literal fucking extreme from a woman who would be diagnosed with a borderline panic disorder in any other country on earth but yet >Japanese mental health

That is NOTHING like what Mori does

>>16634847
>social anxiety
You're trying to bait people into doxposting right? There's no other explanation for this awful read of mori.

>>16635165
>smoothly
lmao. mori is a fucking spastic. remember the meme review? that's the real mori. her compulsive lying just makes things more awkward. it's what nervous children do.

Anitubers are part of the zoomzoom generation who ruined /a/ with little turds who immigrated from MAL forums and r/anime
Literal internet cancer that apparently are immune from criticism despite being clickbaity faggots who exist to trend hop and tweet WACKY RELATABLE THINGS
So if you do watch these faggots I assume you're some FOTM shounen nigger or underage

>>16635278
Moose shut down the conversation before he could continue, twice.
Said "paying fan" is a burner account with no VTdata nor prior history to sending SCs or chatting
She does not ban people as a rule because >muuh freedoms

>>16635548
>I hope you can get a refund on that
She banned him and he gave her money that makes him a paying fan your schizo fantheory doesn't change that.

>>16635548
>Said "paying fan" is a burner account with no VTdata nor prior history to sending SCs or chatting
How would you know this dear doxfag?

>>16635278
And yet delusional deadfags will ignore this post. Calliope Mori is a bitch, a dumb one at that lmao as only a dumb bitch rewards the abusive male that calls her and her supposed friends talentless.

>>16635625
>she banned him
proof?
>Pay=fan
Yeah, hatewatchers and people who start up shit don't exist.

>>16635631
Mori has the same set of superchatters and chatters, many of them are /here/ and regularly have been namedropped maliciously by each other. And I know you know the site used for scouring chatter/vtuber data on YT.

>>16635738
>And I know you know the site used for scouring chatter/vtuber data on YT.
I know it but it's sad to see someone butthurt you enough to try and look up their data to try and dig up some dirt on them

>>16635738
>/vt/ didn't post about him so it's a burner
You're a fucking idiot.
>I hope you can get a refund on that
There's my proof and it's more than what you have, but why don't you prove go into a member stream and bring it up see if you can still watch her channel afterword. You won't.

>>16635318
I'm seeing this cope a lot more now, for obvious reasons. They all think
>wow she's just like my retarded ass!
lol when nothing could be further from the truth. Copers gonma cope as damage control in their own fragile minds I guess, coz the truth would shatter them and they know this deep down so they deny reality.

>>16635844
No one with social anxiety does the things she does. There all fags trying to bait people into doxposting her other activities. So yeah mori is a lot like them honestly, total fucking snake.

>>16635790
Reddit mentality. Remember they have post histories on that site and they'll sift through thousands of posts to find something to seethe at. It's worse than this shithole.

>>16615290
Me, a former deadbeat
getting cucked once is fine, but getting cucked 10 times made me drop her.

I wish I can get all my money back. It wasn't worth it guys.

>>16635374
No. What the heck are you on about?
>>16635318
>>16635350
No, it's normal social anxiety. That's how it works.
Apparently, you know nothing. That's fine. Whatever. There's nothing to talk about at this point, it would be a worthless endeavor

>>16635896
I wasn't even referring to that stuff actually, simply how she presented herself onstream, but yeah of course that shit is the nail in the coffin on this "she's actually autistic like me!!!!" cope.

>>16617923
I don't really care for Kiara but she really didn't deserve to get shit on and stonewalled by Mori for the entire time they were being pushed

>>16635969
>No. What the heck are you on about?
Exactly like I said, I'm not posting it faggot.

>>16635821
>new name with mori avatar
>drops aka on a membership
>changes name and disappears
>no history of chatting anywhere else
Nigga you're retarded. But of course you are if you think telling a dude to get himself refunded means he got banned. Great logical leap there. Go watch the video gain.

>>16634847
Yes I've dealt with people like that. People that will hurt everybody with their lies because of their anxiety or someshit. I've seen those people and they are mostly women.
And no I dont need to accept their shit and not get mad at them for doing it. Its not cute, its not cool or anything so I dont know what is your point even to bring it up

>>16635790
>try to check something if it adds up
>durrhurr you're just butthurt

>>16635969
Compulsive lying is not a strict sign of social anxiety, compulsive lying is an addiction formed out of habit. It makes more sense if someone with ADHD is a liar than someone who has an anxiety disorder.
You have no idea what you're talking about and your proof is anecdotal based on shit other vtubers have said which is even more retarded

>>16636157
>source:my ass
>>16635821
Try it then faggot. If she bans you I'm right and she hates her fans and if you're scared of that happening then you already know I'm right.

>>16635157
Stop seething connor

>>16636196
>Someone says something that makes you butthurt
>Immediately dig through their history to see if you can get any dirt to disregard their point
Reddit mentality like >>16635926 said.

>>16617923
>>16619791
You guys realize this only NOW? It has been obvious from the very first Myth collab on debute day how she was passive aggresive towards Kiara and low-key bullying her. Granted, Kiara is annoying ME ME ME more often than not and has her own vices but you dont see gura or ame treating her the way mori does.

>>16620495
there is falseflagging and then there is this
you should be ashamed
have some standards nigger

Lol so many excuses itt
She's not some special flower who needs to be cottled and showered with money to show you love her
Shes some retard who probably gets drunk so when she passes out she doesn't have to relive getting bullied in high school because she hasn't grown up mentally since age 17
Thats the burger ringer educational system, you either move on or you let it haunt you forever and become one of those "ILL SHOW YOU DEREK IN 10TH GRADE" psychos you see in movies

>>16628138
nobody asked this nigga for his opinion so why is he posting this shit bruh?!

>>16624305
you're coping anon
she doesn't care about hololive nor her fanbase and never has
she tries to fake it with different effects but when she auditioned for hololive she didnt do her research. She has never been a fan of vtubers and is a shameless grifter. No wonder she is siding with connor. birds of one feather afterall

>>16636434
I realized and I told people only to get a flood of replied from globalfags insisting they were really best friends behind the scenes and I was a schizo reading too much into things.

>>16615290
Not a deadbeat, was warming up to her because of her interactions with my oshi and deadbeats saying she was improving. Feel like they were lying and she was just hiding a lot of the bad behavior in members.

>>16626989
>Fan express concern about the TT faggots
>Mori spergs out and takes it as if it were an attack
>She interacts more with him on Twitter and goes to his stream to make a $200 donation
Innocuous my ass. She knows what she's doing.

This thread is almost nothing but shitting on Mori but I make a cuck joke in /who/ and get a warning. wtf.

>>16636684
>>16636766
>>16636999
Mori will continue raking in money and being loved by countless people. There's absolutely nothing you can do but cry about it hahahahaha

>>16615290
once i learned she has taken connor's penis many times i burned all my mori merch and deleted her music

>>16637148
I wont be crying when she finally fucks off and becomes ENs Coco

>>16637148
And she'll always respond stronger to her detractors, even making songs specifically for them, than she'll ever put time into acknowledging people blowing smoke up her ass. Face it, Deadbeats, you're getting cucked by her detractor threads.

>>16637148
Please convince her that's the case so she graduates.

>>16637164
based but probably fake

>>16637148
Ok mori chill

I said it back in 2020 her fanbase will literally suck her dick to no end.
Shes a girl with a traumatic past and copes with alcohol and she's a shitty person who can't read a room
Every collab with her is just a countdown to see when her autism switch flips and she starts ranting which indirectly hurts someone in the stream's feelings but its ya boy ya know i didnt mean too :(

>>16637148
Just like the other anon said. At this rate she will literally graduate so I dont care

>>16637304
I will forever hate omega and his gang for picking this bitch up from the trashbin

>>16624649
>her talking to somebody she likes
The problem is she likes a sociopath, which says a lot about her

>>16625413
>talk to a male
Again, you deadcucks like to deflect the problem. No one gives a shit that she's talking to a male, no one complained when she hung out with Gigguk or Joey, the problem is who that male is

If you genuinely don't get why so many people hate that faggot specifically, than do your reps. He's an actual piece of shit online and off

>>16637148
Yeah and? That rapper that filmed a child sucking his friend's penis then posted it on the internet was celebrated when he was released. It's entirely possible to be awful rich and loved at the same time.

>>16637304
The only collab I've really seen it is her most recent tea collab. She didnt offend anyone in her collab with mumei and ina I think, pretty sure that one wasnt her constantly dissing someone like she did to poor fauna

SEASON 3 ON THE MENU BOYS
BACK TO THE ROOTS

>>16615290
>Be deadbeat during 5% era
>Drop her as soon as she grows into the role of a Vtuber
Unholy mother of fucks you are insufferable

>>16635263
This. I cannot believe that there aren't currently some hard feelings within EN. This wasn't his usual shitting on the fans/idol culture, he directly insulted the girls themselves and she falls over herself defending him

>>16637689
There could be or they are way too depressed to care

>>16615290
I stopped watching her at previous 5% arc

>>16628994
She used to to that, but she also release the VOD one month after that.
nowadays tier 2 and 3 didn't get special treatment, but she also stopped releasing vod.

>>16619331
She was always the same. You just thought it was a joke because she was constantly fucking up, but she was always just as full of herself. She has deep rooted emotional issues. Her supporting Connor is just her cope to not admit being in Hololive basically saved her life. She was living horribly in Japan and when she started doing this she was extremely thankful for it. She even couldn't hold back tear on her Mad Father stream when people were giving her tons of money; that was also the same stream where she went to the bathroom without turning the mic off iirc -- her apartment was really that small that you could hear what she was doing there. Deadbeats will deny all of this but you can see what her problem is if you look at the music she did before joining Hololive. It's not like she was tight lipped about it.

Frankly, she just used Kiara. Kiara was the only other girl in HoloMyth that was also in Japan. She knew the culture, she got along with the JP branch, she even had a crush on Mori. TakaMori was an easy way for Mori to present herself in a well-established dynamic. All she needed was to reject Kiara's advances, which she could do easily because she didn't care about her all that much and didn't need to reciprocate except occassionally when she felt like it. It was a very "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" relationship for her. When it was all done she just shrugged it all off because it was never that important to her in the first place. Of course Kiara's the one that got shat on for it all, even though she barely got anything out of it.

Mori's a genuinely bad person. But the worst part about isn't that she would admit it, but that she'd be proud about it.

>>16637595
>grow into the role of a Vtuber
You mean when she gave up on pretending to be a character? Because that's not very VTuber of her. Saying someone who just debuted isn't going to last as their character because she was personally incapable of handling being one wasn't very VTuber of her either.

>season 1
kakkoi girl slowly turns into a menhera bitch who hates streaming
>season 2
menhera bitch turns into an entertaining streamer and enjoying life, ends with her tragically falling from her prolific creative output and happy times, into alcoholism
>season 3
Alcoholic bitch becomes more menhera than she's ever been and the utimate yab occurs

>>16638121
So you're saying Mori issue is the reason she hanging with Connor because she need validation and mental support? And she can't get that from other Hololive because "coworker is not your friends?"

I honestly can't blame her... I still remember she also work on hooter tiers cafe because needing money. Mori is not my oshi, but I think she need place or person to supporting her. Jesus Yagoo why you always recruit people with mental illness

>>16638147
I was reffering to her drastically increasing streaming hours since Council debuted. She actually leans more into her theme than most of her colleagues and seems to genuinely like it. That never was her problem.

>>16638147
Yeah the thing with the connor drama and the thing that one faggot that clipped her members stream bring attention to, is that she is really trying to not be thought of as an idol or a vtuber, but a real person. This leads me to believe she will soon graduate.

>>16616949
This.

>>16638254
You said that from 2020 and until now nothing burger happen

>>16638243
Okay, so you're too new to know the difference between before and after she dropped her character. Something she's even been open about herself and how she felt she "had to be a certain way for you guys." She really is always on the side of the haters because her fans just delude themselves with weird narratives that not even she'd buy about herself.

>>16638121
based

>>16638147
Damn, whod she say that about?

>>16638318
I never was her fan and I don't think her character changed much since I catched a stream of her in October 2020 where she sperged about Persona permissions. You should probably spend less time on this board and actually start to watch streams. You have quite a lot of catching up to do.

>>16638423
La+ immediately after the debut.

>>16638428
Maybe if you were a fan you'd have noticed. Because I used to be one. Which is why I also know she's said it about herself.

>>16638523
>Prefers 5% Mori over streaming Mori
You really are insufferable. Enjoy your clock until she gets motivated and you drop her too, I guess.

>>16628488
lmfao why are burgers like this. holy shit, in a thread full of cucked things, this one is another level

>>16634847
While it's clear you're baiting with your intentionally improperly defining social anxiety and applying it to some asshole, it actually doesn't matter if it IS social anxiety. Having a problem doesn't make everything you do excusable, if four people have an anger problem, one can drown himself in alcohol, one can shoot up a school, one can beat his children and the other can take up boxing. Clearly some dealt with the problem in a more respectable way than others. Social anxiety doesn't give you a pass to push your problems onto other people. Most people in a place like this with social anxiety are much more similar to Aqua where they deal with it in a way that mostly harms themselves and has minimal effect on others.

>>16638633
>Prefers "anituber > fans and genmates" Mori over spaghetti dropping Mori
You are not one to talk about insufferable people, cuckbeat.

>>16638254
I hope she graduates soon.

>>16637711
>>16637689
>>16635263
>>16638855
>anituber > fans and genmates
Truly unforgivable.
And i always thought the final yab would come from kiara lmao how wrong i was.

>>16638223
She wasn't working there because she was poor, she was saving for a trip to Japan. She was perfectly fine living with her parents, she was studying animation, but she couldn't really connect to anyone in her life. She found about her ex-crush and that's how she got interested in j-rap. Her trips to Japan was to see him and his group. She eventually moved there to get closer to him, they worked together but he probably ended up rejecting her because they clearly distanced themselves. But most of her records before Hololive and even her initial EP were produced by someone from his group.

Mori's entire self-made tough girl persona is built on a bunch of lies. She did what she did to get away from people, get close to someone, and she got carried in her music.

>>16638254
>is that she is really trying to not be thought of as an idol or a vtuber, but a real person.
A duplicitous person that will throw her own colleagues under the bus by tacitly agreeing with the sentiment from connor that they are all talent-less, yes. This is fucking horrible and the fact that cuckbeats would try to twist the argument into something like incel idolfags vs OTHER MEN shows you just how damning this thing Mori did actually is. They know this, which is why they misconstrue the sentiment that it's "zomg she's collabing with M*LES deal with it!!!!".
Watch as they do this every time someone touches on the real reason people are pissed.

Look, she has never respected or liked Hololive, she always thought idol culture was shit and literally admitted as much, and just because she became business-friends with Milkyqueen doesn't mean she did a 180 on her opinion.
She applied as a joke, completely expecting not to get in and when she did she felt so out of place she honestly thought of Ayame-ing it (she has LITERALLY admitted this, though of course she said she "changed her mind" because of feeling guilty)
Her entire friends circle thinks hololive is cringe and this obviously has an effect on her because she's a fucking sheep for males she simps for.

In conclusion the idea she would someday wake up and actually genuinely love hololive is never gonna happen. She will always obsess over 3D e-celeb males, she will always avoid collabing with JPs, she will always prefer her soulless "DUDE ALCOHOL LMAO" real life meet-ups with co-workers than interacting as vtubers. And she sure as hell isn't going to fucking defend hololive against her friends who she sheeps for.

heres hoping the next EN generation is actually tolerable. we have ina and gura but honestly just throw the rest of them away

>>16638223
>validation and mental support?
by someone that shits on your hard work?
That makes no sense.

>>16638994
Her Music is not memorable.

>>16638965
>le final yab
I will never understand this mentality. Sure dislike Mori because of what she does, her content, or whatever. But thinking that Mori is going to cause the destruction of hololive is mindbogglingly retarded.
Are the people who hate Mori incapable of critical thinking or what? It's been over a year of people saying that she would destroy hololive yet it's still in tact.

>>16639128
Woman are mentally ill

>>16634847
That's why I liked Mori initially. Because you could tell she was autistic but she put up this cool kid front. I thought that was derpy and sort of endearing, because I find real people who are slightly derpy but doing their best to put their best foot forward endearing.

I don't like her now because I got more of her inherent personality past the autism and it doesn't vibe with me, and that is independent of her social skills.

>>16638121
Hololive...Yagoo's house of broken dolls

>>16638121
> She even couldn't hold back tear on her Mad Father stream when people were giving her tons of money
Everyone else in Myth (every single one at some point or other): Cries because of how much they love their genmates and being im hololive

Mori: Cries because she got a lot of money

Really makes you think

>>16639147
Presumably it comes from the fact one incident managed to close an entire branch before.

>>16639147
>But thinking that Mori is going to cause the destruction of hololive is mindbogglingly retarded.
I dunno man, but not calling out the guy that said you and your supposed friends are all talentless trash and then on top of that lying and saying
>yes he personally apologized to all of us
when he didn't, has got to put unnecessary strain on the other girls' relationship with her.
And there's council added on to that too now.

>>16639278
The incident lead to or exposed a whole lot of bitchy behind the scenes infighting.
People have such short memories.
That or they're just sheltered leddit newfags for whom actually negativity and criticism is a completely foreign concept because reddit admins block and ban everything that isn't abject praise, like this fag >>16639147

>>16639278
But that shit was FAR beyond some shitty e-celeb drama. It's not a good comparison.

>>16639389
Mori insulting her members and costantly pushing the drama on regular streams may very well trigger managemet reaction and what do you think happens then? She says sorry or she doubles down?

>>16615290

Now she can raid and host him LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w20gR7LvMRQ

Not a deadbeat, but had a similar situation with Marine after pandering too much to the reddit EOP "i'm horni" crowd.

>>16639638
wait I thought the twitch thing was a joke...So she is gonna stream there regularly...why? She pointed out JP does it but they really dont. Only watchalongs because twitch is handy for that.

Does she really want to doubledown on this shit to upset people or what?

>>16639763
>Does she really want to doubledown on this shit to upset people or what?
I mean, are you seriously confused about this?

>>16639763
Well yeah.

>>16639839
I am just wondering what omegatranny is thinking right now. Surely just lowkey switching platforms is not allowed?

>>16639638
maybe she can get big enough on twitch, graduate from holo, and fuck off permanently

>>16639763
If I were a vtuber and I knew something I did made retards on 4chan shit themselves for days, going on weeks, I would absolutely keep doing it.

>>16639763
She's going to keep pushing until one of the other girls gives her a verbal reprimand behind the scenes that gets her to take a step back or management quitely puts some pressure on her manager to try and stop her being a self-destructive idiot. Cover isn't going to make any public statements or moves unless it's absolutely necessary, so the only thing you might hear about is some more bitching about management.

>>16639763
I think i saw la+ and watame twich account from somewhere. Are we having the great migration?

>>16639942
>Mori graduate this year
One can only hope

>>16637369
Joey is a far bigger faggot than conur, if you remember he's Nene video it's pretty clear he sees hololive fans as subhumans probably much like he sees anime and his own fandom in general.

>>16639975
They do watchalongs so no

>>16637369
>The problem is she likes a sociopath, which says a lot about her
Says she's a woman.

>>16639942
Maybe I'm high on copium but I'm 100% certain this is her end game.
It's clear that she absolutely despises being part of Hololive.
There's no doubt in my mind that 2022 is the last we see of her.

>>16637689
I don't think the rest of EN really cares about her anituber shenanigans one way or the other (if you don't count Ollie as "EN" of course) they are busy with their own stuff and TT leeches usually know to stay away when they're not encouraged.

>>16639996
ironic coming from an open lolicon
imagine being his fat flip gf when her "man" would rather fap to drawings of children rather than have sex with you lmao

>>16640722
fuckin' hell lmao

>>16640517
Imma cap this in case it aged like milk.

I love her so much.

>>16640967
Glad to have you here, Connor.

>>16639942
Cope.
She will drag holo en down with her, once she leaves everybody will shit on the gen

pathetic deadbeat, can't believe how thin skinned some of you become, I thought you are tougher than this.

>>16639160
I liked it when she was unsure of herself and the rules but once she found the sweet spot she revealed her colors and became a complete bitch

Season 2 was going so well...
Shame it all came crumbling down because of 1 SC

>>16641705
eeeeh give it a month or so we'll be back to normal until she does another fuck up

>>16615290
The other deadbeats in global called me a ficklebeat for commenting harsh criticism on her gura VOD
Now these whitenights talk about season 2 mori as if she would ever exist without people like me that forced her to improve
But I know that in the end these pathetic fags will always just back down instead of lifting others up with some tough love, wich is ironic considering they call the girl who wrote OWTH their oshi

weak lonely men getting hooked on vtubers is a huge problem

>>16640583
They now know that calli agrees with connor that they're all talentless hacks though. Don't imagine that has gone down well.

>>16638223
Why can't I report people for poor English?

Mori seemed to be improving. Very strange to see her imploding like this all of a sudden.

>>16639763
She probably plans to join one of the big cliques in Twitch so that her fanbase is composed of normies that supports whatever the fuck she's doing.

>>16642212
Not really, Mori has always been a rollercoaster like this. It's just part of the cycle

>>16639996
Joey is a bigger fag for more reasons than one. The welshmanlet talks bullshit out of his zoomer ass but the hafu, who actually claims to be a fan of vtubers, is nothing but a clipnigger. He doesn't even watch streams, just clips and proceeds to invent shit like with the Nene incident. The worst kind of casual and a true anitiber: a casual speaking utter bullshit with a slavering audience of reddit. I'm honestly surprised his constant affirmation, on vids, of being a lolifag hasn't gotten him cancelled by his own audience. Guess that's the next step really. They've brought it on themselves considering who they pander to.

>>16642037
It's wonderful that you've come to this realization about yourself.

I started having some hopes about Mori when she released end of a life, this song wasn't like her previous stuff and gave a bittersweet feeling of inevitably leaving the past behind and looking back with a smile. It was really well done. And her streams I tuned in to around that time felt pretty nice. What a shame that she's going down the drain after all.
>>16637472
What did she say about Fauna?
>>16638452
What the fuck, how can Mori be so dumb. La+ is like she was genetically crafted to be a perfect kusogaki. She maintains a perfect balance, mostly being herself and talking about her favorite otaku shit and her daily life but she never drops that thin kusogaki layer. I'll admit her antics can be a bit repetitive in collabs but she's still very entertaining and fits her role nicely. I might be too high on hopium but I feel like La+ is capable of becoming Pekora level entertainer someday. Compare that to Mori who's still fucking cringing from having to be an anime girl. Makes a lot of sense in an entertainment field full of weebs, surely.

She needs to go on a trip with Connor and tweet about it. That would be delicious.

>>16642590
>I feel like La+ is capable of becoming Pekora level entertainer someday.
i can honestly see this happening

>>16642699
I wonder how much of this deadbeats can stand.

>>16642734
/here/ deadbeats will sperg. Everyone that is not here will encourage it. Let's face it, it is going to be another nothing burger. Western culture does not give a fuck. Look at kiara's clip video where she ask kfp for permissions to collab with males. People are actually mad at idol culture. Its not just deadbeats or kfp. Its every freaking EN fanbase

>>16642936
Sorry, worded it poorly, I meant /here/beats. I know that normalfags don't care about Hololive. Like, how far can she go before they all drop her?

>>16642936
today anon learns that /jp/ was always right

>>16643035
if they can survive 2 TT arc and that freaking charlie arc, they will be fine. I think they will drop her when she openly attack another girl in hololive. No the kiara shit does not count and no the nene one does not count. People can wave the she dumb card or she is just acting tsun card

>>16642050
I don't think they care whatever he said and would rather just stay away from any of this bullshit rather than break down and overanalyze it like spergs here tend to do.

>>16642037
And what shall those 'weak' lonely men do instead? Burn down the capital? Sperging about communism or/and national socialism?
Chuubas are escapism as well as therapy.

>>16643035
They will not. They will swallow what she gives them and tell themselves they like it.

>>16643185
>if they can survive 2 TT arc and that freaking charlie arc, they will be fine
Dude do you not know anything about stacking? If that continues, they'll drop her.

>>16643441
ENfags are known for taking everything and deadbeats are even worse. She can literally announce that she and Connor are getting married and they wont care. They never cared about her anyway

>>16642936
>Look at kiara's clip video where she ask kfp for permissions to collab with males. People are actually mad at idol culture.
Some people are actually mad or "disappointed" at Kiara herself for even asking that question and acknowledging that some fans don't like male collabs instead of just doing it the Mori way.

>>16643185
What the fuck did she do to Nene? Or is it about still being friends with AnimeMan after his spergout about Nene Playboy appearance?

>>16643658
Yes. Fuck him. Why the fuck is he shitting on Nene, fuck him

will you faggots stop spamming other threads with your schizophrenic bullshit

>>16643441
Come now, Mori has survived everything before this and she will continue to thrive into the future. The minority will seethe at her, she'll seethe back and none of it will affect anything.

>>16636174
Agreed. Mental problems that make you act like an asshole don't absolve you of being an asshole

>>16642590
>What the fuck, how can Mori be so dumb. La+ is like she was genetically crafted to be a perfect kusogaki.
If you somehow haven't noticed yet, our entire current society revolves around talentless shits trying to tear down those around them and those in the past greater than them because that's easier than trying to put in the effort to measure up to them.

She's a talentless hack that has no business being in the vtuber industry so she's irritated by people like Laplus and Pekora who are the perfect antithesis of her.

>>16643185
what nene one guess I've missed that one unless it's about being friends with Joey faggot.

Anyway some people will never drop her no matter what, even here on /vt/ we have vshojo thread in love with twitch bullshit and perfectly fine with everything their waifus do if they feel like doing anything that is, Western men are known to have no standards or pride. I can't see Mori openly shitting on other holos or anything, the worst she might do is not properly call out one of her e-celeb crushes for doing that while they interact and it's not something only people HERE would be disgusted by btw if you remember how that veibae clip gained traction and caused anger in the wider fanbase, even with redditors.

>>16643185
>again, deadcucks trying their hardest to deflect the problem to seem like its unicorns are the ones hating on their whore oshi
Its not, no one cares about the 2 TT collab no one cares about charlie. Cunur is a sociopathic predetor and mori is a cunt for giving him attention, simple as

>>16644199
>predetor
minor spelling mistake, argument dismantled

>>16640583
They cared enough previously to shut his ass down in their own chat to stop his cancer from spreading from her to them. Then that same guy flat out insults them by saying they're talentless corporate prostitutes, and mousey had to stop him TWICE from sticking his foot even further in his mouth, then their supposed friend doesn't just downplay it, doesn't just defend him but straight up lies about a non-existent apology. Again, there's no way there isn't a bit of resentment brewing behind the scenes

>>16643948
While I agree that Pekora is peak performance VTuber, Laplus still has a ways to go

>>16641738
It's inevitable because she inexplicably refuses to distance herself from the kiwi and lord knows he's not going to change his ways

>>16642037
they're the base of this hobby and the reason it survived long enough to blow up, same with video games and anime. normalfag niggers are the problem, not the solution

>>16637472
What happened with Fauna?

>>16644887
Not to mention those weak lonely men are the biggest paypigs and without them the majority of successful chuubas would be on the same tier are small corpos, who couldn't do it as a full time job
I'm saying this as someone who never spent a dime on SC or memberships and never will. Unicorns are the unsung heroes and I'm glad they're exist to keep my entertainment alive

>>16642936
>People are actually mad at idol culture
Redditors aren't people.

>>16644199
They will keep doing that as their only cope for the that mori agrees that EN and the rest of the holos have no talent. Seriously what a bitch.

>>16645292
otaku are the mvp
they keep manga printed, anime showing and chuuba's chubing.
normalfag twitch casuals will hop onto the next trend in an instant once their zoomer-tier attentionspan expends itself

>>16645755
don't worry about that, he apologized in private for that statement he made publicly. It's cleared up with one person so it must be resolved!

>>16645755
I don't know where this narrative comes from that she agrees with him. I always though the reason why she is the way she is because she hardly had any friends during most of her life and is really bad at noticing bad people.

>>16646058
Ok I honestly don't think she actually agrees that all her EN coworkers are talentless brand leeches, it just looks REALLY bad that she bent over backwards defending someone who does hold that opinion

i get to have the last post, if you dont like it you can suckle my nads

>>16646058
Yes, I wonder where people got the idea that "Mori 5% Calliope who looks up to no one and thinks vtubing is gay" agrees with the statement that the brand guarantees success to talentless hacks that lie on their resume. She treats Holomems worse than even her friends.

>>16646058
>this narrative comes from that she agrees with him.
Agreement comes from her shitting on her own fan for daring to point out that he's a cunt, lying on his behalf that he apologized to the other girls when we know for a fact that he didn't and for continuing to associate with someone that called her and those she claims to be her friends as talentless.
She has never once denouement what was said.

>>16646268
The only way this ends 'well' is if Mori can come to an understanding that sometimes your friends say stupid shit and need to get roasted for it, and that you don't NEED to cover their asses every time. Too bad I don't think she'll learn that lesson here as there are too many deadbeats willing to bend over backwards for her to walk on their spines over this mess.

>>16646357
>*denounced

>>16646389
Or she already knows that and shares the same sentiment. I wouldn't be surprised. Not now.

>>16638243
Streaming more doesn't make you a better vtuber.

>>16646443
Well, this is where I'm glad I'm not a deadbeat. Sounds like comlelte sufferings and the only hope is that she fucks up more to the point that the other Myth girls sit down and have a chat with her.

>>16646389
Elira defended Millie's retarded hot take in their PL, but everyone loves her now. Then again I don't see Mori owning up to her mistakes at this point

>>16646729
>Then again I don't see Mori owning up to her mistakes at this point
Me neither.

>>16646268
Oh i know it looks bad and i agree as a deadbeat.
That is why i left my comment on it.
>>16646357
>her own fan
I don't believe that guy was a fan but just shit stirrer.
But what Mori did wrong was to let that SC live rent free in her head and try to spite him with all that stupid shit.

>>16646974
shitstirrer or fan, doesn't matter
he raised an issue that's been bothering me for months

>>16646974
Well, depends on how long the bloke was membered for, he very well could be both a fan and a shit stirrer, and Mori failed the shit test he gave her. Poor form, but as an entertainer you figured she'd have learned by now how to roll with the punches some...

>>16643781
Shit adds up. How long is she going to attach herself with a known harmful quantity? How long will her coworkers bite their tongues about having a friend of a friend that openly, unabashedly thinks they're all garbage?

>>16646974
>But what Mori did wrong was to let that SC live rent free in her head and try to spite him with all that stupid shit.
That's my main criticism towards her. It was downright stupid. It was clear before Mumei came in that it was getting to her and now any anti know they have a 100% guaranteed chance of ruining her day by just sending her a red akasupa.
>"But she said she'll screen her SCs"
Yeah, and that means she'll each one of those shit stirrers' SCs and be even more petty and bothered for the streams. 'Cause now its proven to get to her.

>>16617923
She is being sarcastic right? Can I get the full story? She could not posssibly have the gal of lying and then saying
>You don't believe me do you?

>>16647541
The full context: (https://youtu.be/EpNwZJ5xoj0?t=3028))
King was a conversation topic, so someone in chat brought up Kiara's "King cover", a rick roll. Mori acted like she listened to it, which is a pretty transparent lie all things considered. At that point, Mori realized that there was something afoot that she didn't realize, so she gets quite defensive, even getting a bit pissed off that she got caught

>>16647800
To think that I shat on Kiara for being the bitchy one holy shit how the tables turn.

>>16647800
But she later says "I have been to the future". That means she meant it as a joke right? Like in the future make an actual King Cover.

>>16647904
It was an attempt to cover for her obvious bullshit lie. Kiara rolled with what chat threw out and Mori got caught slipping

>>16647284
Anon, she's one of the most popular people in the company. Once you hit a certain point of popularity (within a certain sphere of influence), you're mostly immune from consequences. She could probably start openly shitting on the others, even spreading lies and misinformation about them and still get away with it.

>>16647962
Yeah maybe, there is also the possibility she meant it as a joke and did not lie. There is a slim chance, and I will take it.

Atleast she streams deadbeat which is more than I can say about Gura

I was mostly ambivalent about her, since most of her content didn't entertain me much, and she tended to drag collabs down early on. So I don't feel bad unsubscribing now over nonsense like this.