/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16606284

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>Hololive with pathetic numbers
>threads immediatelly dead

Holofags are truely pathetic, huh?
Don't forget to take a look at Council's pathetic numbers before you go to bed, kids.

>>16606809
HoloFans despise council. As a proud holofan I wish Council was flogged and put in stocks while we jeered at them. It would make them entertaining for once.

Three weeks of dead threads until Valentines Day

>>16606809
here my cope
En still got CCVID hard.

Sana... there's a reason why most JPs put photoshoots behind members-only.
It's actually fucking stupid that she puts drawing streams behind members-only, but puts this shit that only her fans would like to the public.

>>16606960
not a lot going until night and gura and she hasnt even put a frame yet

>>16606993
you can just wait for the vod views
>>16607017
make no difference it is a shit timeslot and with 2 overlaps

>>16607161
Does he plan to dominate SC?

>>16606993
>CCVID

>>16607240
He-Chloe...

It is going to be real sad when none of the HoloEN streams today even get 10k viewers. Looks like all the vtuber fans moved to Twitch.

>>16606993
I think that holoEN fans just either watch through apps like holodex or just like streams without watching much of them. They have alot of fans but not all of them watch streams.

>>16607310
Snuffy at 13k

>>16607310
As a HoloJP fan this feels so good to me. The death of HoloEN has been something have wanted for more than a year now. vshojofags/real holofans/nijifans have all been united in this sentiment.

>>16607419
>>16607415
korean vtuber already moig the floor with VS so not much to talk about them

>>16607419
nice raid

hololyzer's SC is broken atm. it converted any currencies to jpy with 1:1 ratio.

Haruka at 3.5k

>>16607310
I think people stop watching holoen because they don't stream enough. Now there are too many vtubers and people find new ones to stay with. A brand can't keep people forever if they don't get content.

>>16607518
yeah i expected as much

>>16607546
It just leaves my jaw open in utter incredulity about how badly Council has done everything and how poorly Myth helped them. HoloEN deserves every lose it gets, they were given everything but decided to contribute nothing.

>>16607419
idk who raided her
>>16607539
froot raided her

Fact: 843k
My Song: 756k
天使のagape: 504k

Do we have any evidence of new CCVID or is it just cope

>>16608107
Both bae and sana took 8min to recover just 1k of a waiting room. Ina was slow today also and mumei yesterday was also slow taking 10min to reach her 7k wiating room and Kronis waiting room for her outfit reveal being the biggest offender

>>16608107
Mumei's song premiere failed to hit waiting room.

>>16607262
Nah Chloe is much more stronger than this

>>16607262
dont compare this faggot with her

>>16608192

What's with HoloEN not opening SCs during readings? Bae, you went from 2 view to 5 view in one single day without having dreams of making as much money as you can?

>>16608362
sana was 1k waiting room

>>16608390
sponsors and memebership and gonna have more merch when their birthday comes. Faun is one of the lowest and she still was able to buy a ku100

>>16608107
Rooms barely beating waiting room, esp evident with the council outfit relay. Rooms taking over 7 minutes to reach waiting rooms regularly.
Kronii took 20 minutes to reach waiting room, and only surpassed it by 8k.
On a first new outfit.

>>16608516
>sana was 1k waiting room
Proof

>>16606993
here, since the schizos always pretend to forget it every new thread
>ccvid is still running loose

>>16607697
When you hate streaming,you dont deserve numbers.
I respect NijiEN for everything they pulled.

>>16608528
>>16608362
is also not just on the holo girls
7min just to validate 700 users is really slow

>>16608724
cierto reimu

Update
Sheeeesh

>30 minutes for Gura
>Not even a frame up
My 20k....

>>16608932
HE-CHLOE I KNEEL

>>16609150
kys

>>16608390
With Mori and Kiara, if they don’t turn SCs off they’ll never finish reading them. Kiara in particular already goes on for hours clearing through her backlog on most streams. Presumably that mentality filtered down to the rest when they bother doing SC readings. Council, on the other hand, could benefit from leaving them on, as is the case with Mumei, who got a boost after she decided to leave them on until she gets through everything from before the reading.

>>16609181
holobrony-kun...

>>16609262
again nijitrannie, stop comparing this low tier faggot with someone that actually broke records

Sana's dead

>>16609420
good

>>16609420
Sana is the antithesis of numbers so fuck her.

Membership numbers should correlate with viewership numbers right

>>16609420
She has decent SC at least.

>>16609722
not really but the more popular the more memebers

>>16607310
Mumei will get 10k.

reclining...

>>16609722
More often than not but there's definitely a lot of exceptions

>>16609942
that has the ccvid weeks so it is expected

>>16607896
Can probably remove Agape and add A New Start or the Myth original.

>>16608932
Thats not much anon. Are you new to /#/?

>>16610266
>Nijien
>not much

>>16608932
are you a woman?

>>16610331
Niji males? Look at Edengumi superchats their first month.

>>16607419
Filthy Twitch coomers.

>>16610020
I expected worse recline because CCVID but it's actually not that bad

>>16610083
Seems like they're more interested in tracking gen 4.

Where is Gura?
Another cancelled stream?

>>16606809
Lmao, Holocucks too humiliated.

>>16608599
Would be nice to get some more reliable numbers and even tribal retards should be aware this will bite them in the ass if it's not fixed.

>>16610470
CCVID never hit HoloEN.

>>16610688
You should stop posting.

Today's superchats

>>16610730
Do you think he has better stuffs to do?

>>16610470
it has outfit reveals for everyone so i would say it is as bad.

>>16610730
HoloEN were getting lower numbers within a standard deviation of their month to month medians. We never saw behavior as bas as we got from VSPO/Nijisanji/Hololive proper.

>>16610761
What did Nene do?

>>16611049
her computer broke

>>16611049
Her PC died, also almost half of that was from one oil baron lol

Gura canceled her stream,of course.
Who is next,Mumei?Kronii?

tommy hurt

>>16610761
>Gundou
>Tsukasa
>Iori
Jesus what year is this? Also 4 males in the chart with none from Niji JP is nuts

So we’re two hours away from 24 hours since Mumei’s song release. It’ll likely hit 400k views and 80k likes (beating both Kanatas and Towa by a wide margin and closing in on Watame’s original) come then or close to it. Pretty damn good numbers with all things considered. For how advertised HoloJP members are as “idols”, people give two shits about supporting their music careers apart from select few so it’s refreshing to see EN getting some form of success in their originals.

>>16611671
>Mumei does well with her song
>first thought is about HoloJP
eerf tner

It's funny that the only reason that Sana manages to maintain higher peaks than Selen is because their fellow HoloENs are never streaming and thus she has literally no overlaps when she streams.
She will limb her way towards the high 2000s after Ina and Bae ended their streams and Gura cancelled hers, LMAO!

should hololive take the next step in numbers so the algo picks up on thumbnails to recommend?

>>16611795
No one gives a shit about EN vs JP. It’s just a fact that there’s a lot decent/solid music that comes out from JP talents that fans give zero fucks about. I mean look at Watame who spammed out originals the entire year. They were as you’d expect, but have been sitting at 300-500k views after months and months.

It’s more a case of EN fans seeming to support the talents “dreams” more than wanting them to be glorified cover arists

>>16611797
Unironically I think being Gura's counterprogram is a good role for Sana

Can someone confirm this for me but did Vox or Mysta overlap with Kuzuha Valorant or not? Just noticed at vrabi that his peak was 18k and that is very high for a non-tournament Valorant stream from him

>>16611979
Mumei's dream is to become an idol? That branch isn't for idols, I doubt we'll ever see her in a live. That aside Watame's concert did well, maybe the entire hololive fandom as a whole didn't support Watame as much but it's far from a failure. Now THIS is a failure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7v-KOUHZE

>>16611415
>Gura canceled her stream
Why holoen like this?

>>16612321
both mysta and vox were 6k shitters then so ahrd to tell.

>>16612345
ISp problems

>>16612345
HoloEN girls don't care anymore, is sad

>>16612490
She cancels streams too often, i don't believe her

>>16612327
Fucking yikes

Shitty views for a shitty video from a shitty chuuba.

>>16612321
No, there wasn't any overlap with those two at that point.
https://vrabi.ml/hourly/2022-01-17/22

These past few days have made it clear that we need EN3 at first I thought it would be a bit much but Damn it we need some stream.
Council barely do it even if its their full time job and Myth is on a weird burnout phase where only Mori and Kiara are streaming a lot.

>>16612612
>>16612321
A bit of interesting theatre. Vox and Mysta did nothing to Kuzuha but look at how their viewership converges. I think NijiEN males may all be eating from the same bowl.

>>16612740
nah
the girls schedules are becoming more full as holidays are gone.

>>16612788
nothing in your graph indicates that schizo

>>16612327
>That branch isn't for idols, I doubt we'll ever see her in a live.
I have never heard anything from council about wanting to put on a live. Out of Myth I think Kiara's mentioned wanting to do one.

>>16612740
hopefully they graduate already, they are bleeding viewers left and right and they are doing literally nothing to retain them
started to see more people with a holo oshi mark in their name on niji streams, people don't care about the quality, they just need a stream and Gura is taking hostage the prime time slot and not even streaming on it
expect her to get her first sub 10k streams soon

>>16612928
>Vox starts
>Mysta's numbers decline until both converge on 6k
It tells me a lot of things, there is fanbase overlap and that some of Mysta's viewers were waiting for something other than APEX or prefer Vox.

>>16612788
>I think NijiEN males may all be eating from the same bowl.
sea fujos watching Eops isnt a big userbase

>>16613016
Hey, the schizo is here a little early today

Nijisanji shop goods ranking. No women as expected, but the order of boys is interesting.

>>16613210
Jp hate Vox?

>>16613210
voxx will fall from grace
Ike and shu are more liked with ACTUAL jp fujos or the ones with money.

>Gura stream cancelled
Mumei will give us 10k, right?

>>16613285
he is china central i think mysta will also fall on popularity there to ike and shu.

>>16613343
No,she was at 8.4K yesterday.HoloEN management are worthless.

>>16613528
She's going to whip out another karaoke stream, I believe. This is my final cope.

Amazed at how fucking dead primetime NA is despite there being 11 fucking EN holos with most being in a timezone that can work for it.

>>16613210
Damn, how did Vox fall that far.
Also, why the fuck would they do a public ranking if they didn't want people to compare who is popular and who isn't (like they prevented DLSite from ranking their voice packs).

>>16613210
Do they even offer female goods? Would the male who loses to a female in any metric be forced to graduate? I think NijiEN will get to the point where the top 5 spots are all male in every metric. The people have made thier choice, Hololive if you like females and Ninisaji if you like watching males. Nijisanji females like Pomu and Honma are low tier in their own company, the same way Hololive males like Towa and Mori are second class citizens.

>>16613528
You blame EN management for Gura and Ame no streaming? or Because Council can´t get good numbers?

>>16613646
It's funny. Someone should just say "fuck time slots" and stream over whoever. It's not like Gura would throw a menhera fit over it.

>>16613775
You know the funny part about Ame not streaming is that she tried upgrading to Windows 11 last week and it fucked everything up.
She was reverting back to Windows 10 over the weekend iirc.

>>16613646
They need to hire more east coasters rather than west coasters

>>16613857
Fuck, she fell for the windows 11 meme....
Why Ame, you NEVER upgrade to the new OS in the first year...

>>16613842
during jp primetime like 10+ of those bitches will stream over eachother easily its fucking weird if theres an adversion to overlapping in EN

>>16613857
Fucking Ame i don´t care anymore EN has no hope anymore.

>>16613775
Botching the draft picks and everyone having poor discipline. If HoloEN management were a sports front office they'd be handed their walking papers after this draft.

>>16613857
lmao over the weekend, im an ame member and she just mentioned she was swapping back to Windows 10 TODAY. She reported that windows 11 shit almost 9 days ago. I have no idea what that woman was doing for 8 of those days, then again shes the same woman who didnt RMA a video card for months until it actually died.

>>16613857
What's the news about windows 11? I avoided it every time it pestered me on startup just because I don't trust it yet. That double confirmation really irritates me sometimes.

>NA Primetime (according to holobronies the most important timeslots for an EN vtuber)

>3 NijisanjiENs streaming with almost 6K people watching
>literally 0 HololiveENs streaming with the next stream starting in more than 1 hour

HOLY SHIT!

>HoloEN

>>16614037
I know EN management is bad, but is not their fault all the time ,you can't blame them for everything.

>>16612949
She might want it, but a smaller % of the EN base is interested in lives and she's going to have a hard time getting that anyway with the lockdown.

>>16607896
Looks like the MV will eventually push My Song above Fact but it's going to take a while.

>>16614249 (me)
with another NijisanjiEN starting in 5 minutes
and 4(!) more starting in 1 hour with a 4way collab

HoloEN management please do something...
Fucking Omegatranny do something...

>>16614072
Setting up a fresh OS is such a pain in the ass.
>>16614240
Doesn't work properly with AMD CPUs, fucking reduces performance because they designed the OS with Intel CPU in mind.

>>16607896
Piss off.

>>16614408
>AMD CPUs
kek lmao, I was right for not trusting yet, else I'm fucked

>>16613958
we need someone like this girl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQJ5POREVcE

>>16614371
hire streamers that like streaming bruh

>HoloEN


Plz save them Tazumi...

>>16614498
>Intel CPU cannot even plays some games with Denuvo.
>AMD's bug is not noticable, only slowdown like ~5% performance in games.
the worst ofWin11 is the taskbar and right click menu. Downgraded from win10.

I hope at least some schizo will dox their places so # will have some way of "convincing" them to stream more.

>>16614601
Tazumi memes flowing through right now. I guess he really is better than Yagoo.

>ENfags complain about CCVID
>dosen't spam @teamyoutube about it
Stop complain here and do something

>>16615050
If there is CCVID still affecting EN (which I don't think is the case and this is a massive cope) I wonder why isn't someone like Kiara talking about it more

>>16607896
>+51k
>+51k
>+8k
From my last tally.
Kanata...

>>16614578
Mumei? Looks great on paper but the practice it doesn't pan out.
Fauna? Good PL numbers but the product isn't good. Don't pick for need, pick for talent.
Sana? Nepo pick but has a top talent in the one thing she refuses to stream.
Kronii? Good voice and seems to have the ability to be entertaining but the mental block is too much.
Hakos? I don't see much wrong other than time zones and her wasting her precious buff month forcing a personality she didn't have.

HoloEN should have naked dogeza whatever manager picked some of HoloX. All of HoloX seem to like streaming.

>>16615209
Because kiara doesnt not have a prrof like hal and selen

>>16614347
It might or might not. It's difficult to say what the long term trend will be, but My song has still been a great success for her. It would have been an easy frontrunner if she released it after her anniversary, but between that and her shorts she has had a lot of fresh eyes on her so she's probably happy.

>>16615209
kaira is already used to youtube bullshit.
Also you need to keep track of your ccv peaks for each stream and check them days latter which most wont do.

>>16615209
>I wonder why isn't someone like Kiara talking about it more
En ccvid does not exist. Using Selen as an example, we saw how numberfgas behaves when there are big problems. And I doubt that Selen is more interested in numbers than Kiara. Kiara also stopped doing a lot of polls she abused during CCVID.

>>16611671
>beating both Kanatas and Towa by a wide margin and closing in on Watame’s original
...what? In likes?

>>16615530
Even if Kiara numbers are increased, she will still have one of the lowest numbers in HoloEn excluding Sana

>>16615308
>song mogged by Towa
>animated MV mogged by Watame
>went into menhera breakdown after the failure of her 12 hours offcollab
It's painful to see.

>>16615707
Oh wait I'm retarded nevermind

>>16615478
>manager picked some of HoloX
>manager
You know who it is

>>16608362
>>16608737
Unless they continue to report these things YT isn't under much pressure to do anything.

>>16615757

>menhera breakdown
>literally just a short tweet expressing how she could have organized things better

even talking about afterwards she was pretty satisfied with it. the VOD is well over 1m by now

>>16615757
I'd post the pick but I get banned every time I do. Just know your sheep whore is worth nothing.

>>16615968
>he doesn't know about the other tweets

>>16615613
Her anniversary was kind of a disaster though. Kanata has lapsed her previous anni by about 100k so far and towa by 240k but watame is still behind her previous one.

>>16616096
Not everyone stalks roommate accounts doxmate.

>>16615900
i will wait until it reaches ridiculous levels like last time for now is something only most of us can notice

is this picture still relevant? I remember people made fun of him for always getting silvers but now he can't even do that anymore...

>>16615983
Number?
For example for Watame
Sololive : 1
Original songs : 13
Ear that still in good condition : 2

>>16612949
Retard

both niji and holo en need someone like Fubuki

>>16616923
Elira is just like FBK, a gen 1 that hired her friends.

>>16615983
Have you forgotten that this isn't /jp/?

Post SEAysta

>>16616144
Her anniversary was fine, just since it's mostly her and Botan fucking around in some mini-games it doesn't really have as much replayability. Either way it was a larger audience than what she ended up launching the song in front of a week later.

>>16615478
>All of HoloX seem to like streaming.
I'm curious how long are they will stream like that until they are burning out

>>16615983
Wrong thread, schizo. Go back to dealing with your flooding country.

>>16616962
do people respect her and/or is she easy to approach by other members? cover got really lucky that their jp foundations are strong with supportive senpai.

Mumei's song hit 400k just a bit under 24hr.

>>16617053
NijiEN didnt burn out.

>>16617147
NijiEN doesn't stream like holox

>>16617053
Iroha's already cutting back to 'just' one solo stream per day as per her announcement (not sure what else, I only caught that much).
La+ always does short streams (but also does roommate streams too?)
Chloe is MIA
Lui seems to be going steady, but hags know not to burn themselves out, so...
Koyori runs the risk of being forced to 1 solo stream a day if she keeps her current pace though, that just doesn't seem sustainable in the long run.

How do I fuck pomu...

>>16617053
one of them were already getting their vocals hurt
dont remmeebr if it was iroha or coyote.
Streaming is taxing and doing it too much is harmful even lap+ dialed back this month on the hours.

>>16617053
Laplus is a bit concerning with how much she stream both on her Hololive account and roommate account.

>>16616780
>>16617011
Just to put some things in perspective.

>>16616923
HoloEN needs another collab organizer

>>16617281

HIME!!!!

>>16617281
And?

>>16617378
i'm not the heimin you were arguing with, i'm a pure numbers guy, and all I see is that its kind of curious how little correlation sub count is to anniversary views.

>>16617297
> Singer
>Translator
>Artist
>Gamer
>Event organizer

Each gen

>>16617204
>>16617244
>>16617247
It's very clear that they can't afford that kind of schedule regularly but it's a good strategy to go full throttle after debut and slow down after that

>>16617437
Guests vs no guest.

>>16617204
>not sure what else, I only caught that much
gozaru's diet is shit because she's not eating enough meat. even her doctor called her out for that. who the fuck eats raw eggplants?

>>16617479
They all had guests though? Kanata had Mori (vocals), Watame had Botan, Luna's guests aside from Subaru are honestly kind of meh, and Towa's guest portion was rushed through.

>>16617445
Who is the event organizer of HoloEN? Is it Kiara?
I don't think Council has an event organizer

>>16617445
>Artist
>Translater

Dont need these two.

18 hours in and Mel's Animal cover has yet to break 50k views; unfortunately it looks like this will be yet another numbers flop for her when compared to her Hololive peers. She will be fortunate to even break 200k views in a few weeks in a timeframe where the prior releases have gotten 600k to 1.6 million views.

Really don't understand the stigma against her, she is just as talented a singer as the others who have covered it (if not moreso than a couple of them) and its not like she was dealing with massive overlap as merely Noel and Nene were streaming when it premiered. People simply are...refusing to watch it at all in the first place even when there is dead air.

>>16617550
Kiara, Ame and Mori seems to be doing a couple events recently.

>>16617550
Kiara and Ame for EN. Closest equivalent in Council is Bae because the others claim that she’s the only one capable of organizing.

>>16617437
Towa event - Pekora, Ayame, Suisei, Botan, Lamy, Okayu, etc.
Luna event - Subaru, Botan, etc.

Anon??? Are we not expecting events with multiple big guests to perform well?
Also it'd be more apt to compare Watame's event to Kanata's live, but even then they had very different approaches with Kanata making a tight, well crafted and replayable event vs Watame that fucked around with her friend.

>>16617732
>Watame that fucked
Gotta rewatch that, missed the fucking part

NijiEN schedules are up.
They all have more streams than last week,coincidence?I think not.

>>16617577
She cant just drop a cover suddenly and expect people to listen, especially as one of the most unpopular JP Holos. She hardly streams to promote her stuff too.

>>16617547
>Watame had Botan, Luna's guests aside from Subaru are honestly kind of meh
Luna also had Botan, anon.
>Towa's guest portion was rushed through.
That's really stupid, anon. Fans are still going to turn out for the event to see their oshi in 3D and the Holos are going to promote it if they're in it.

>>16617461
Agreed, though if you get to the point of getting potential vocal chord damage, perhaps you've gone a bit TOO hard.

>>16617204
I'll never understand why a vtuber streamers like 4-5 hours a day is "too much" when that's the average stream time of non-vtuber streamers (who also do it 5days a week), fuck Ironmouse on deaths door can pull out 5-6 hour streams.

>>16617542
>Eating raw eggplants
WTF? I mean, the not enough meat thing may just be a case of poor self-management of diet which can happen to anyone, but what kind of monster eats eggplants raw?!

>>166175681
Trade those two with
-Comedian for viral memes
-GFE specialist for gachi-baiting

>>16615478
But Fauna is great, her live ASMR is improving, shes upgrading her equipment and her gaming streams are some of the best in HoloEN. Bae and Mumei are not doing bad either, Kronii just needs to go all out and drop the whole depressed act(?) and actually stream, hopefully her original song will help light a fire under her. They are all entertaining enough individually to hold decent numbers they just need someone to lead them for bigger projects and event streams rather than relying on Myth all the time.

>>16618027
Lui has hag problems
Iroha is still working in her real-life job which also requires talking a lot, should be fine once she quit that.

NijiEN noticed HoloEN cant stream,
now they are spaming more streams.

>>16617568
Trade those two with
-Comedian for viral memes
-GFE specialist for gachi-baiting

>>16618033
Look, for some of these girls they aren't using their normal voice, and that heavily affects how much strain gets put on the vocal chords. Also, non-corpo vs corpo, they likely have meetings + other obligations on top of streaming that most indies don't need to deal with.
Also have you seen some of the 'content' that passes for content from the top streamers is nowadays? Granted not all of them are like that but fucking hell.

>>16617577
Speaking of Mel and songs that need more views. This is my #1 favorite Hololive cover song among all Hololive cover songs.

https://youtu.be/Mmlj3WUBHbc

>>16618160
Thankee, I only dropped into the stream a bit, and since IWNBJ had to rely on liveTL to catch the bit about her reducing her streams but not the exact reasons. Makes sense.

>>16618033
I primarily follow the sheep, so I get what you mean. I assume it's different priorities that they don't want to admit to on stream.

>>16618078
Doesn't Japanese like eating raw vegetables especially if they have a farm or garden ? I vaguely recall seeing it on anime and variety show

>>16617732
alright then, if you really want fair points of comparison, here you go, 1st anniversary streams then and now. Notice the trends. Luna didn't do a 3D and Towa's 3D was delayed until April but it is what it is.

>>16618160
>Iroha is still working in her real-life job
Christ. Unless she's an investment banker or making partner she should have quit that shit by now.

>>16618302
She also doesnt have vocal chord damage because of streaming. She has an allergy that affects her nose which then may affect her throat in the long term.

>>16618157
Fauna is a great performer and she just flies under the radar for everybody. Her viewership is extremely consistent and pretty good to boot. Her ASMR streams all do well and easily get 300k VOD views. Mumei and Kronii are probably more popular but Fauna is the most consistent performer in Council.

Really all the criticisms of Council can be solely attributed to Kronii. She is the breakout star and is thus the face of the branch so she kind of absorbs all the attention (COUNCIL IS 5 KRONIIS!!!). Mumei, Bae, and Fauna all have pretty consistent streaming schedules full of a variety of content and get good viewership. Of course there is Sana too but she is the runt so her overall impact is minimal.

>>16618522
Nah, she mentioned that she doesn't want to quit her job suddenly and affect her co-workers.

>>16618078
They're perfectly safe and healthy to eat raw, just tastes fucking grim compared to cooked

>>16618544
making a different than normal voice while streaming wont do her any good tough.

>>16617577
Fanbases are still kind of insular. It would be unwise for Hololive to underestimate the benefit of things like Asacoco.

>>16618522
It's only been one and half a month after her debut anon.

>>16618239
>Also have you seen some of the 'content' that passes for content from the top streamers is nowadays?
I'm a fag that has been watching Twitch since it was Justin.tv so I'm familiar with hot dogshit some of this recent content drought has been but I think I agree with >>16618365 , many of them are probably fine with the income they make and don't care to do more. But damn I appreciate the hustle on all the millionaire Twitch streamers that still put in 40hr+ stream weeks in even though they could have retired years ago.

>>16618515
You're trying, but you're not really getting it.

>>16618493
>>16618652
https://youtu.be/fnyWoBqxw0Q
I don't think gen 6 has gotten their paycheck yet. Also, a new cover song coming soon and her doctor shamed her for eating eggplants raw so I don't think even Japs usually eat it raw.

>>16618913
6-8 weeks before you get your first paycheck from Youtube.

>>16618279
>ai kotoba
https://youtu.be/jW4q0w6CCIo
this is my favorite cover from her. shame i always gets overshadowed by iii. at least it's not ii.

>>16618913
I'm curious so I'm checking her member posts and I just realized that I missed her mengen two days ago.
FUCK YOU YOUTUBE WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME NOTIFICATION FOR MENGEN.

>>16618777
DESU her real voice sounds cuter but she wants to do a lower voice to sound cool lol. It's the opposite for most girls.

>>16618840
Kanata did two practical sololives and inclined roughly 20% year on year so far. Towa had two guests in the first one and a lot more in this one, so the delta is logical. What doesn't make sense is how Watame goes from having no guests to one guest and her views are lower.

>>16619054
I'm assuming you hit the bell yea? Unless she put out a community post its easily missed, and even then half the time YT's like "nah senpai no notif for you"
>>16618816
For those that keep at it and don't devolve into shitty(read, low effort and boring) react content, yea definitely. Fuck the idiots that are poking the DMCA bear though, fuckers don't care about anyone but themselves. The last thing we need is another horseshit ContentID style system.

>>16617577
She always double dip between her roomate accs and Holo acc so ofc she will never grow like the full time Holomems

>>16618596
I guess I can see that, Kronii was supposed to be the breakout star but she somewhat dropped the ball and that has had a knock on effect to the rest of them. I'm hopeful she can turn it around since she clearly has a lot of potential and they don't deserve anywhere near the amount of hate they get (even if most of it is just bait).

>>16619128
1st vs 2nd
Mori is more popular than Botan.
Old, mostly singing vod is probably going to be more replayable than one that is two people fucking around in minigames half the time.
There are a number of reasons that can cause the disparity between birthday/anniversary events. You seem kind of desperate here, anon.

I really fucking wish the numbers thread is used to discuss numbers and not the place to push your agendas like its a pub in revolutionary Russia

Mori jumpking is at 7K.
She is reclining.

>>16619128
Botan is a debuff like the other gen 5s, look at how terrible the viewership was for the Suisei/Towa/Nene concert when it would've been amazing if they kicked Nene out and got Mori instead

>>16619756
Alright anon, so what would sort of evidence would you need to be convinced that there is some kind of decline going on with Watame?

>Mumei numberfagging her orisong 24hr views
WTF!? LEX!?

>>16620085
Oh it's you again
It's Nene's fucking concert, yeah sure let's kick the one who organized it so there'll be no event at all

>>16613313
Can someone tell me why?

>>16620100
I'm not stupid enough to try and use anniversaries with different circumstances to calculate that. Maybe you should be less concerned with using cherrypicked data points to force an agenda.

another 78 minutes to reach waiting room for mumei

>>16620077
Actually it is a bit higher than her previous JK streams pre CCVid.
The voices in my head tell me they may had been tourist due the recent drama expecting her to speak out.
Also moomers is streaming.

>>16620100
If there's any new song from watame below IRyS spark of joy, I'll rest my case

>>16620217
Better for there to be no concert than to waste it on a shitter with shit numbers

>>16620402

it's been 3 weeks already anon, you can stop coping

>>16620339
Anon please that's just bullying and you know it.

>>16620485
The funny thing is that Nene's concert has more views right now than any of the yonkisei anniversary concerts.

>>16620402
We care about numbers, most Holos don't.
You can stop trying to shove Mori into every big JP event now.

>>16617727
She's been setting up collabs with other JP members and its been good experience for her. Bae is just probably not ready for the spotlight to host a big collab, but she is definitely the most capable in Council

Mori will start to use Twitch occasionally for guerilla unscheduled streams

>>16620570
Everyone want to see Towa playing piano.

>>16618160
What specific hag problems?

>Mori will start streaming on Twitch
I was wondering why the viewers were inclining...guess I have a juicy VOD to catch on later on.

>>16620795 (me)
More news: Ame and other HoloEN members will give it a try too

>>16620878
Pretty much the same problem as Aki and Marine, something to do with vocal nodules. The one Aki had to get surgery for.

>>16620570
I think a lot of that has to do with how JP just does not have any vod watching culture. Once a stream ends people just dip out or watch another streamer. You can even look at Pekora’s 3d live stream and how slow the growth has been despite being Pekora and it being one of the biggest streams you’ll see of her year round. It’s “growing” but grows in inches.

Just seems like once the stream happens JP side people won’t come back to it enough

>>16620981
thank goodness koyori has a powerful and smooth throat

>>16620982
>Kiara tomorrow
>I'm not planning to use Twitch

>>16620976
Mori was addressing the negative supas shes been getting about Connor.
Also confirmed she donated the money to him.

>>16618033
They were former NEET what do you expect?

>>16620664
>most Holos don't
DYRBI
I'll be surprised if Towa or Suisei ever sing with Nene again after the disaster that was that concert

>>16621286
Wrong thread globalfag

>>16621330

trying too hard

>>16621286
Ewww

Bring back the old gen 5 schizo this one has rotted.

>>16621330
>>16584910
Ironic.

Kronii Irys collab delayed one hour,
will it be cancelled like Gura?

>>16613698
If you have to make this kind of question, it shows you dont know shit and you are very retarded.

Hole en don't have to try and still get number lol. Feel sorry for niji en lmao.

Mumei 5k+
Mori almost 8.5k.

>>16617197
? how so? even a retard can see thats not true.

These are Vox and Mysta numbers,
HoloEN should have worked harder than this.

>>16621731
Bruah, I was just doing a roundabout way of calling Towa a man.

>>16621907
vox got 4k with a 200k celebration and endurance.

>>16622002
4k is the new 8k coming from a Nijinigger LMAO

No more posts saying that EN should use twitch + soon we will have data to compare CCV on Twitch and YouTube, so no more cope about Twitch's CCV being inflated

>>16622002
Mysta goona do meme stream today,
another 10K for him.

>>16622165
Imagine if all the EN members except Gura get less numbers than VShoujo KEK.

>>16622165
Grab the popcorn! There are going to be some disappointed anons coping real hard.

>>16622278

the shitposting would be glorious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XB05kd3p3xY
Prediction?

>>16621725
I believe that Irys will tardwrangle Kronii to stream.

>>16622343
>>16622278
As a massive holojp fan I expect them to do about the same or a bit worse. I will love seeing those numberfag holoen fags eat crow and finally learn their place as a successful side branch but still not hololive proper.

>>16622344
Mumei Hachma Rat Minecraft collab?
17K

>>16622344
10-15k.

>>16622344
moomers will cancel

>>16622466
Im more excited for the shitposting than their 3D debuts.

>>16622310
They atleast have to tweet it tho.
If they dont the numbers will be invalid.

This thread was better during CCVID endtimes. Now it's just shitty bait after shitty bait after shitty bait.
No wonder most of the Anons who actually talk numbers fucked off.

>>16622278

>>16622344
+haachama en buff
+moomer tw buff
+on haachama ch buff?
-stars collab debuff
-bae debuff
10k tops

>>16622344
>Haachama interacting with EN again
Nature is healing

>>16622564
Come back when its JP primetime, its still only the small fries streaming.

>>16622466
>As a massive holojp fan I expect them to do about the same or a bit worse.
How would you be able to determine that?
Example, Let's say one of them decides to do a guerilla Minecraft on Twitch

>>16622559
>t-this is how I won't accept the result if it doesn't match the voices in my head
>>16622547
Their 3D debuts would have been dull since it would be some shitty 3D at home stuff. Maybe if they had a proper 3D debut it'd be amusing. As for numbers I genuinely don't think any of them besides gura will hit 6 digits.

>>16620298
> recent drama expecting her to speak out
What

>>16622165

What if EN gets better numbers than expected? Will this thread suddenly accept Twitch numbers on the daily tally or something?

>>16622816
no

>>16622816
>What if EN gets better numbers than expected? Will this thread suddenly accept Twitch numbers on the daily tally or something?
yeah, thats fine.

>>16622816
lol no

>>16622816
>Will this thread suddenly accept Twitch numbers on the daily tally or something?
No. It will just prove youtube numbers are not equal to twitch numbers. It'd make me take twitch even less seriously.
>>16622778
20k or bust. Gura 40k or bust.

>>16622816
twitch number will always be funny like bilibili numbers because of raids and other silly number buffing they do to appear on-par with yt numbers
the "mainstream" audience pool to grow your own numbers are just not there. you get recycled viewers and if you're lucky, you can bring sufficient % of your own yt audiance with you

Okay, one thing I would like to point out regarding Holo potential Twitch number is that there will likely be no raid (Since I remember anons say that you can turn that shit off)

Keep that in mind when creating / (NOT) biting baits

>>16620795
All this just so she can raid connor...

>>16622816
No, because having to split out raids, the fact that the CCV IS NOT TALLIED THE SAME WAY ACROSS BOTH PLATFORMS AND HASN'T SINCE DECEMBER 2020 YOU STUPID SHITPOSTING FUCKS, and the fact that the plans are for 'unscheduled guerilla streams' which means one of the biggest things for YT streams, the recommends for many casual viewers, isn't in play. Like, unless it's tweeted out well in advance so that the news gets to assorted discords/reddit/etc there's no way the numbers could reliably be even be compared for a given talent on YT vs Twitch.

Meh, i don't care much about ccv numbers anymore after ccvid.

>>16622559
>Tourist McFaggot: "Oh, that newfangled hololive thingy is on twitch? Let me take a look."
It would mean less without 8-10 more data points.

>>16622816
Mori's twitch channel will be added to live ranking so it will probably be included in the tally

>>16623140
>the recommends for many casual viewers, isn't in play
On the other hand she'll get much more discoverability and general exposure to new viewers
Just going live with her average numbers will put her firmly in the top row of twitch's biggest section (just chatting) or top ranked in any game category if she's gaming

>>16623392
No. None of twitch is allowed or all of twitch is. No. Double. Standard.

>>16623538
Agreed.
All or none (preferably none due to raid bullshit. We'll get to that bridge when we cross it when it gets enabled for YT).

>can't even beat niji numbers
LMAO that's what you get for fucking Connor, Mori PAKOlliope

>>16623650
Honestly, just make a different tally for Twitch

>>16623418
>Just going live with her average numbers will put her firmly in the top row of twitch's biggest section (just chatting) or top ranked in any game category if she's gaming
Are you high? Mori will be lucky to get 8k. She is no Gura, she isn't even a top half hololiver.

>>16623797
Nice, is the Pakora guy moving on to Mori? I''ll like that.

This thread is becoming even more schizo than bait threads.

>>16622784
I and many other's dont use twitch at all,if she doesnt atleast annonce it somewhere anywhere really plenty of people will miss her stream.
Pekora and miko stream where announced for exemple.

>>16623538
There's no tracking site dedicated for vtubers who has Vshojo included, I guess that is the reason for not including them

Current Twitch numbers.

>>16623811
Sounds like a lot of work when half the thread doesn't even care about EN vtubers and much less than half care about twitch numbers.

>>16622805

>>16623797
>Not Pekora anymore
Good job Pakora schizo! The meds seem to be working finally.

>>16622805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce-cR-f8TlM
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1482985831388250114

kek why the fuck do you guys think HoloEN will be on par with Vshojo in twitch just like that? Selen got her comparable YT numbers on her Apex twitch streams just recently. Even Kanae has better numbers in YT

>>16622344
>hachama chanel at 4am in the morning
10k if lucky but i think 7k aevrage

>>16624389
I hope they dont, I just want to shitpost.

>>16624180
pika is reclining on twitch
nyanners seems to be back to where she was in decemeber

>>16624389
B-but muh cull and ccvid

Data time

>>16624389
>kek why the fuck do you guys think HoloEN will be on par with Vshojo
they are bigger

Mumei poll

>>16624351
Mori will do a debut stream, at least this one will beat vshojo once
She won't get more than 2k for regular streams

>>16624389
It's a holo en fan cope. I don't think they'll get much more than their usual 5k-10k.
I genuinely want this so they can sober up and realize that it's been more than a year since HoloEN was popular.

>>16624659
Yes, you're reaffirming what that whole post that you didn't read just said.

>>16624715
>Mori will do a debut stream, at least this one will beat vshojo once
debut on twitch? when?

Polls are getting culled too

>>16624921
Sounds like youtube fixed the problem.

>>16624389
Because hololive is not nijisanji

5 mins
Still terrible but not as bad as it used to be

>>16624921
kinda funny that youtube's "fix" is to apply CCVID on the polls too to make it look "normal"

>>16625123
2020 ccvid cull i guess

>>16625123
Yea.
Compare Miko's poll on Ark (33% engagement in a 3ish? minute timeframe) this is just bullshit.

>>16625163

>>16625163
>>16625123
90% engament on 5min
incredible moomers

>>16624258
Lmao

>>16625163
>normal
>50% engagement in three minutes is normal
These threads have rotted your brain

>>16624921
>>16625163
Stop being retarded. Polls aren't getting culled you fucking asshats. Stick to the facts, we don't need more shitposting when there's actual fuckery afoot. nearly 100% engagement in 5 minutes is still fucky given Miko had NORMAL engagement with Ark yesterday.

>>16625123
>>16625163
They will still fail on twitch copers. I can't wait until you crumble in disgrace.

Anyone paid attention to how the poll update their numbers before? Mumei's poll number increases in batches like how ccv behaved.

ilegal funeling on mori stream

Her picture book stream must have been very popular.

>>16625561

>>16624921
The trick is to either wait ten minutes or until it reaches one hundred percent engagement, whichever comes first, then make your judgment based on that.

Holy ILLEGAL 10k get

>>16625561
That's the way it's ALWAYS worked with YT polls.

>>16624921
Did you see the number go down? You should post multiple screenshots for comparison.

>>16625678
Clutch 10k get in the 3 mins between Mumei's stream ending and the payday collab starting.

>>16623851
there's a stream with 3.5k CCV in the top 5 english streams of "just chatting" right now
with 8k mori would be up there

>>16625440
>16624921
>anon can't understand irony

>>16622002
Is Vox the Kronii of Niji EN? VA wannabe that was hot shit at debut due to the voice but kind of fell off after?

>>16626053
To early to tell. That 200k stream was not during prime SEA time where the Nijimales have always gotten shit viewership. The need to stream during SEA time to get good numbers.

>>16622002
He was like 1k subs from 200k when he streamed that. It's more of a celebration stream, not an endurance stream.

>>16624715
Shitter like Bao can get 2k. I think for good content she could get 10k, for mediocre stuff like Jump King maybe 5-6k.

>>16626007
>Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
We have enough garbage in here already anon, we don't need more for the sake of irony.

>>16626239
>for mediocre stuff like Jump King maybe 5-6k.
She's literally at 9k right now lmao

>>16626547
Twitch will make her drop by 30% since a certain percentage of her fanbase won't use it.

>>16626007
>>16626509
Irony always attracts unironic believers of whatever is being said or done ironically, making it harder to tell which posts are ironic and which ones aren't.

>all the people that went to Mori's from Mumei's already left
is Mori that boring?

>>16623797
Calli's CCV should be higher than 30k(9,000*5) you mother fucking bitch

>>16626781

considering kronii is getting close to how much she has now in ccv, on a split pov collab, i would say yes

Well that was a short lived raid

>>16626743
Kronii at 8k now, could've been 10k if Mori wasn't streaming and she's not ending any time soon

edengumi bros...

>>16627104
Picking on Lain in 2022 is like kicking a hobo.
The real surprise in the pic is Anya over Reine.

>>16626763
This, I've made up memes in here before just to have a giggle that people took and take seriously now.

>>16627230
Collab fees

>>16626781
her split was on fire last i checked so im guessing she's being a bitch again

>>16627104
GO ANYA GO

>>16626547
Only so many people will follow to twitch and there's nothing inherently interesting about watching her play Jump King that would attract twitch casuals. If she starts interacting with ecelebs in VC it would of course draw more people but I'm not sure that is permitted.

>>16627104
Dagger I kneel!

>>16627104
It's Anya's time now.

7k watching NijiEN between Elira, Selen, Luca and Shu

21k watching HoloEN between Calli, Kronii and Irys

>>16627643
>there's nothing inherently interesting about watching her play Jump King that would attract twitch casuals.
You do know there was a recent Jump King trend where xqc and other streamers all tried Jump King and got great numbers right?
It's not a vtuber thing, people on twitch are very familiar with Jump King.

Also, Jump king is the type of stream where you put on the side and tune in when they make progress.
That's one of the main differences that kills youtube numbers compared to twitch: being not counted when you tab out.

>>16627714
Wish Nijisanji had something like Holotools where you could see all the streams.

>>16627714
Kek what a failure nijiEN is

>>16627814
Nijimado

>>16627643
"HoloEN on Twitch" is just cope. People just want to see HoloEN be on top in some way again but they don't want the harsh reality of the truth that HoloEN has reclined and literally everyone else has inclined. They won't get mind shattering numbers on twitch, they'll get their Youtube audience +-10%

>>16627788
Why would I know that? Why would you know that?

>>16627104
>below anya of all people
what a waste of great design, if IRyS has that model instead of Lain...

Is hololyzer sc jp yen conversion bugging out? these conversion doesn't seem right

>>16627834
Holo en don't even have to try like niji en lol. Should rename them niji SEA.

>>16628137
>>16607518

>>16626781
it's because PAKOlli sucked Connor's dick

>>16628205
There is literally nothing wrong with South East Asia.

>>16628264
ah i see...i guess i just go with playboard atm

>>16627714

We are seeing some lower individual peaks recently but the gap in audience is still so fucking big lol. The highest I think NijiEN went with streams at the same time was 17k with like 7 people streaming

Then HoloEN do more than that with just 3 people

>>16628689
I'd like to see how well Niji EN could do with say 15 people playing MC, Amogus, or Mario Kart tourney, and no significant Holo EN streams on.

>>16628864
What hour of the day?

so any good number streams for this afternoon on nipland or is it gonna be a slow day again

>>16629077
another slow day again

>>16626781
Its Jump King. Shes done 97 hours of Jump King on stream.
Some people are bored of it and its competing with a 4way collab of something EN hasn't really played, and its still maintaining its numbers.

>>16629350
fuck, im gonna have to watch streams...

>>16629011
Like 10 PM EST, great time for burgers and at least plausible that some JPs/SEA could watch the guys if that's really what their main audience is.

>>16629077

the biggest thing from holo that i see on schedule now is the okayu subaru mario kart collab (probably one pov like usual) and that is in 8 hours still

Does Mori get automatic affiliate status like the JPs do on twitch?

>>16629657
Noel and Lui are gonna have offpako(sex)

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1483118644590968832
Towa...

>>16629695
Ame had since day one, some niggers even use it as "secret club chat", she has enabled sub only mode and she makes a couple hundred just by that

>>16629695
Why do the JPs get automatic status? And why doesn't Nijisanji? Selen had to stream a certain amount to get it according to people.

Queen usada no streaming today?

>>16629817
Rabbit meta has ended.

>>16629787
>Why do the JPs get automatic status?
Dunno, maybe JP twitch is trying to roll out a red carpet for them. Seems shitty that Miko gets that status when she averages 3-4 streams a month and streams well under 10 hours.

What does youtube gain by selectively culling only holoENs?

>>16629892
LMAO

>>16629956
The opportunity to send a few schizos on an anime message board crazy.

>>16629787
nijiwho?
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/vtuber-pekora-finally-joins-twitch-and-is-a-huge-success-with-first-stream-1606940/
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/gawr-gura-twitch-stream-hololive-en-star-plans-2022-1734097/
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/hololive-star-amelia-watson-curious-twitch-shift-1740342/

>>16629956
It's most likely they blocked some behavior that is more prevalent amongst non-Japanese audiences that is either too close to bot behavior or is otherwise useless to advertisers and that manifests as "EN being culled more". It's not something targeted.

>>16629956
its not just EN, its just EN that seems to be most affected by it.
Probably because the location of all the channels is set to Japan so its counted a lot of EN viewers as "low quality viewers" and excluding them from CCV.

>>16630157
>Probably because the location of all the channels is set to Japan so its counted a lot of EN viewers as "low quality viewers" and excluding them from CCV.
stop with this cope. location has nothing to do wit hit,

>>16629881

TwitchJP even tweet a clip of that MC stream from the day YT was shitting up so much that she went stream there