/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

kiara also talked about collabing with males, it's truly over.

>>16526124
how about I show you how to suck on my dick

>>16526124
And its all Ollies fault

>>16526124
You’re retarded if you didn’t think HoloEn wouldn’t eventually all just start collabing with males. Western fans don’t care about idol culture

>>16526124
Fucking hell, I'm glad they aren't my oshi

>>16526218
it's her fault for promoting nijiEN as hard as she did. nijisanji has won.

>>16526124
>Mumei collabs with Holostars before Ame does
lmao

Bye Mumei, it was fun while it lasted.

>''Hobbies change when outsiders get involved'' template again...
EN Vtubers are the outsiders. You are the people who invaded our hobby. And us JP livestream watchers are already the outsiders who invaded the video style format of vtubers. Meanwhile you've barely existed in Hololive for just over a year. To complain about "outsiders", at this fucking point, about an EN VTUBER of all people doing male collabs is the greatest fucking irony.

Lineup looks entertaining, looking forward to it.

>>16526276
>idol culture
Define idol culture.
>>16526444
This.

>>16526288
I meant for not graduating after the finger yab but this too

>>16526517
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_idol here it has a whole section on Idol culture the ultimate retards guide

Cover's testing the waters as they gear up to announce Holostars English.

I don't like doom posting but there is a large part of me that thinks this is just the beginning of the end.

Hoomans and Brats were always cucks anyway, how does this change anything for them

OH NYO

Do stars fans get similarly weird about them collabing with girls?

>>16526444
When can we look forward to the last frame of that template?

>>16526760
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_idol here it has a whole section on Idol culture the ultimate retards guide
The "Educate yourself" move?
Alright. Moving on.

>>16526124
>>16526450
all of them can draw decently, that's nice
gartic phone stream quality drops a lot when one of them can't draw (stick figures, etc.)

>>16526444

>>16526444
Trips of truth

>>16526957
No

>>16526124
Testing the waters for HoloStarsEN

>>16526957
not really because there is no such expectation for male idols
some female fans do get angry and possessive about it though

>>16526957
Nah, Holostars have been collabing with girls from other agencies since forever

>>16526945
it's 100% is, hololive is moving to nijisanji's direction. with starsEN, males x females collabs will be a lot more common.

>>16526945
at least holojp still maintains their distance

>>16526517
Western fans are all cucks who grew up watching blacked porn so it makes sense that they’re ok with this

>>16526957
Izumi and Kuku have been Roberu's collab partners for almost 2 years now. If there was an outrage, it would have happened a long time ago.

>>16526444

>>16527166
unironically this.

>>16526124
Retard you ARE the outsider. Hololive didn't have any problem with this until newfags swarmed in and demanded change

Don't you remember when Holos would collab with Stars? Oh who am I kidding? Of course you don't.
>Hobbies change when outsiders get involved
This is you, you just don't realize it.

>>16526444
カイヌダクリンジュツビホネス

I was subscribed to one Council member, now to none.

rangeban sea

>>16526124
>Outsiders
Jesus fucking christ Hololive used to collab more with males, you niggers are the "outsiders".

>>16527003
>all of them can draw decently,
>roberu
>mumei

>>16527166
>towa collabs with males
>nobody cares
>matsuri collabs with males
>nobody cares
>some council enfoid collabs with males
>endless seethe
Daily cry-masturbating to blacked porn does terrible things to your psyche. Western fans please get your shit together

>>16527283
why use ヌ instead of ン?

>bilito fowa bigu nippon cockeru...

>>16527283
Nigger what the fuck are you trying to say

are people actually treating Mumei of all people as a unicorn friendly chuuba?

Or is this just baiters responding to baiters?
Sometimes there's too much irony going around here.

>>16526124
this holostar is like the least dangerous star to collab with. It'll be respectful as hell. Relax dudes

>>16526444
I pity those who only enjoy either JP or EN or males or females or whatever the fuck. This is a hobby. Just have fun.

>>16527363
>matsuri collabs with males
>nobody cares
It's not like she lost 70% of her popularity over that

>>16527166
>burgers wake up
>BBC gets brought up
Interesting, ain't it?

>>16527355
Us .LIVE refugee idolchads run Hololive now and made it the success it is today and there's nothing you can do about it

>>16527118
The biggest nijiEN boy is streaming right now with massive numbers during packed JP hours. Of course HoloEN wants a piece of this pie, and they're willing to cast unicorns to the side for it.

>>16527363
Suisei collabed with males and Sora also and they are considered "true idols" of hololive. Just like real life idols that performed on stage with males and majority of fans had no issue with it. These new incel schizos are making me sick.

>>16527535
To a seanig audience

>>16527535
Only problem is that Holostars are gonna be male idols in America. Would be better if they were just themselves

>>16527479
dumb take ngl

>>16527166
Unironically this.

>>16527241
Yeah the funny part is early on Hololive never had a problem with collabing with males, if they did they wouldn't go out their way to create a male branch. It was later on when gen 3 exploded in popularity that they start using "idol" as an excuse to not collab with males.

>>16527516
Stop equating idolfaggotry to unicornfaggotry falseflagger kun

I like Aruran.

lol

>>16527166
Or more succinctly, where Japanese men just check out of society if they think women are too whorish to justify it, western men rationalize "hey I'd be having lots of sex too if I could" to avoid facing the fact that they've had sex with 1-5 people and their girlfriend has had sex with 10-50 people in the modern climate of tindrism.

>>16527363
>towa collabs with males
>nobody cares

Towa got massively debuffed by her 2020 drama. People don't care about her collabing with males cause she already lost all the viewers back then
Matsuri lost a ton of viewers too

FBK was the only one that actually had a spine to set a boundary with her fans and not suffer for it.

They're giving you prior notice so you can skip it if you want. That should be fine. It's not like NijiEN where you see a Petra/Elira stream that only has the two of them on the thumbnail and title, so you click on it and are immediately assaulted with multiple male voices anyway.

>>16527363
the mutts here on 4chan and anything /pol/ adjacent are more obsessed with black dick than any black gay swingers club. Now they have an inferiority complex that sprouts up around any man being anywhere near them in general whether it involves a woman or not.

>>16526124
Did Mumei ever collab with JPholos? I've seen her communicate with Polka and Lui via stream chat.
Well, it's interesting that she collab with Stars before she collab with JPholos.

>>16527670
Horseshit, bullshit, who gives a shit. Still stinks the same.

>>16527769
Skip and unsubscribe. Bye whore.

>>16527166
It's a fucking gartic phone collab you fucking retard. You're acting like it's some kind of live sex celebration. You're fucking insane, this is why everyone hates /vt/. You wave your dicks around pretending you have some moral high ground about male x female collabs when anywhere else on the internet you'd get laughed out of the room for being the pathetic faggots you are.

>>16527879
How are they the same?

>>16527877
Mumei needs to do her nihongo reps. This is babby mode for her since there are other english speakers but then I feel bad for Aruran for being drowned out unless he can into english as well.

>>16526198
Male collabs were always allowed. You're the outsider. now fuck off out of my hobby

>>16527968
You literally enjoy drinking cum

>>16528032
Cope and seethe.

>>16527911
>This is why people hate /vt/ blah blah blah
Anon.. everyone hates 4chan in general not just vt, and the schizos here are just JP unicorns wannabe idiots they don't watch streams.

Real idols go on tv with males, hang out with males, make music with males, and plenty of other shit.

No dating or fucking is the actual rule. I don't know where this whole "no interacting with dudes ever" thing came from but it is not part of idol culture.

>>16528032
she's just nijisister trying to stir the pot.

>>16527911
This. Fucking retards don’t know that collabing with males was always ok with Hololive. These people not ok with the girls collabing and having a good time are most likely insecure small dicked losers.

A girl and guy playing a game together does not mean they’re going to fuck afterwards, incels piss me off so fucking much

>>16528099
>Real idols go on tv with males, hang out with males, make music with males, and plenty of other shit.
Only because they're forced to

>>16527911
lmao keep coping cuck

None of the EN girls are gfe or that cute anyways so it doesn't really matter does it?
Unicornbros you need to pick better oshis.
There are a ton of smaller chuubas who explicitly provide gfe and outright state that they will never collab with men.

>>16527911
This anon drinks cum

>>16526124
Pfffft councilkeks

>>16528241
Cope cuck

>>16526957
Aruran literally just collabed with Ange Katrina awhile ago and nobody gave a shit
Even fans/gachis of BFE stars like Shien and Oga don't really give a shit since they talk to girls like the HoloIDs and Animare girls on Twitter anyway

>>16528241
i watch fallenshadow so i know.

>>16526124
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, WHY MUMEI WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !?!?!?!?!?!!

>>16528321
>Animare girls
The only thing i know about them is that they're Roberu's harem of sluts

>>16528241
>None of the EN girls are gfe
watch streams.

>>16527911

I never liked EN vtubers but the way they make idolfags seethe is always delicious. It easily justifies their existence to me.

>>16527754
>ignoring anon mentioning Sora and Suisei
How convenient. Neck yourself

>>16526957
Astel received a message from a fan after interacting with Ame on Twitter saying "she found it hard to trust him after he interacted with female vtubers" and he spent around 20 minutes telling her off, closing his mashmallow box and telling her that it was all her fault. He hasn't gotten any message like that since then

>>16528542
you got it backwards, Robert is their toy

>>16527647
Well, more specifically
>1st and 2nd gen collab with males often
>3rd gen doesn't collab with males for various reasons
>Rushia is already milking gachis and doesn't want to rustle them
>NoeFure were low-key misandrist even before they started lezzing out
>Pekora is a loner in general(remember, we're talking about pre-HEY MOONA arc Pekora)
>Marine is too horny and males avoid her afraid of yabs
>Niji dodgeball happens
>3rd gen catches unicorns from bleeding Nijifemales and grows immensely
>Cover decides to go in the idol direction
>everyone drops male collabs
Now we're seeing the opposite in the west. Cover sees that majority of the western scene sees avoiding males as a debuff, so they're going to mingle them more and more often. Hell, if it weren't for it endangering gen3 and gachi farmers like Lamy and Chloe, they'd probably debut a male in next HoloEN wave.

>>16528099
Unironically Love Live

>>16528568
NTA
suisei sounds like a man so who cares? and sora who?

>Bae gets to collab with Shien before Ame
She's dead.

>>16528580
compare it to luxiem who absolutely pander to their female fans and it's easy to see why holostars are failing

>>16526444

>>16528599
Anon what the fuck are you talking about? Niji females had their peak way after. Or do you just wanna spread false information?

>>16528349
I'd watch her but don't twitch vods get deleted after a while.

Can Mumei speak Japanese?

>>16528580
Holy based space seaweed

>>16526124
OH NONONO WHO IS IT THIS TIME? I BET IT'S THAT BITCH IOFI ROPING MUMEI TO THIS SHITSHOW!

>>16528713
>He doesn't know

>>16526444
You are not an insider. This is not your hobby. You are a filthy western monkey invading Japanese space. You are the cancer that you hate. You simped for things you didn't understand because it filled the anime style format of entertainment. You are N7 level of Japanese. To complain about "outsiders", at this fucking point about an industry YOU invaded is the greatest fucking irony. You will never be Japanese. You will never have a Japanese person love you. You are a crybaby loser.

>>16528580
astel is honorary female

Holobros, take your first shot of male-female EN stream before the inevitable comes in summer

>>16528765
after like 3 months

>>16528769
she can barely speak english

>>16528599
>they'd probably debut a male in next HoloEN wave
They already confirmed there'll be new males, didn't they? Though I don't know if they'll be JP or EN.

I think male x female collabs are usually just kind of awkward. They're not too comfortable with each other and it's not fun to watch.
It's better when it's something like a music collab, in which case you just get the final product and it sounds great.
Feels like they often do it more to prove a point than because they actually believe anything of value will be added. Suisei being the major exception, she won't just invite a man for her stream for no fucking reason to awkwardly talk to each other or force a character, she'll just pick people based on their voices regardless of gender and sing together.
This is more of a Hololive issue, too, if you watch someone from Noripro for example collabing with the stars it's usually pretty smooth and fun, but Hololive x Holostars tends to suck. Matsuri is good because she can make them embarrassed and that's funny, but that's about it.
Will watch the collab because I love Aruran and rrat is the best Council, but I'm not expecting to get the "me and the boys" kino you usually get from male only streams.

>>16528838
b-based

>>16526444

>>16528929
I meant as a Hololive member instead of a Holostar

>>16528838
>t. seething globalfag

>>16526124

>>16528925
>Matsuri is good
opinion discarded and ignored

>>16527516
Marvel movies are successful but they still ruined Marvel

>>16528838
basado

>>16529049
I'm not a fan of hers usually, but that drunk stream with Aruran was great.

Not one single brat wants to fuck Bae, they either ship her with Robel or with IRyS.

>>16528929
I just hope they don't give HolostarsEN retarded lore like they did with the girls

>>16527950
You should feel bad for Moo instead, when the others speaks Japanese not the other way around

>>16526124
Kill yourself, newfag.

>>16527241
uhmm newfagchama, it holo not niji

>>16527641
So glad I never watched any myself, I can at least say I'm better than those people.

>>16527166
KEK now that i think about it

>>16526444
wtf how come /vt/ is agreeing with this? i was fully expecting all the replies to be "ywnbj" instead of "based"

>>16529042
Women started the hobby tho

>>16528925
not gonna read all of that

>>16528925
Agreed, add the language barrier to the awkwardness and the stream probably won't be that interesting. Roberu has regular Japanese collab partners he's comfortable with and it'd be nice for the other holostars to get those as well

>>16528599
More context
>between Gamers who collabed with males and 3rd gen, Holostars debuted >before the Stars even came out there was a collab ban specifically on the Stars which encouraged the unicorns and discouraged male collabs
>.LIVE blew up on itself and the retards from there came over to Hololive
>the Chinese who form a large portion of overseas support for Hololive at the time are overwhelming unicorns
>Miko abandons her male friends
>Gen 4, Watame gets harassed for even tweeting at one of the Stars
>by the time the overseas English speaking realm boom starts up (English speakers do not care about this) the transition to no males was mostly complete
>some stragglers finally realize the money and popularity that gen 3 got and switch to copy them
>Chinese incident happens late 2020 isolating Hololive from the rest of the industry temporarily
>no one wants to go back to male collabs, male collabs become dead for basically all except the strong of heart

>>16529345
mutts are sucking off the fag that brought up nigger cocks

>>16529345
>21 posts deleted
It's not that >we don't agree, but Cover-employed jannies are pushing it as a "good" decision and everyone who doesn't agree as a schizo.
3 day break, here I come.

>>16528838
but he admin he was an outsider anon

>>16528708
This will probably encourage Ame to continue her JP reps

Niggas serious out here unicorning for a girl with day 1 nudes.

You know what, it's clear the majority of people want to just pay these girls to have sex on stream, let's just skip past all this fake nonsense and get to that part so this retarded fake industry can die.

>>16526124
>still no holo es
>still no holo kr
>still no holo ru
But they want to launch StarsEN before that...

>>16526957
Men are more attractive if they interact with other females

>>16528838
This all applies to you as well. You have even less right to decide the direction of the hobby than he does.

>>16528580
Why would someone gachi the gayest star?

>>16529417
>>between Gamers who collabed with males
Literally only Mio as part of some F.A.M.S collab

>>16529557
no source, no nudes nigger, for a while you faggots have been saying they're "out there" but they aren't

>>16526124
Calli collabed with Rikka on several occasions, they've sang songs together, too.

>>16529640
a key that can open more doors are a lot more useful after all.

>>16526124
>Seething at the homos from all people
I know there are some who are actually seething because some of you went nuts when Mori collabed with a homo and now she barely collabs with them...and instead is hanging out with Cannur.

feels good to be a fandead, every time i see a holo collabing with males i get a dopamine rush

>>16526124
Aruran?!!!!
Let's goooooo!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so happy for my man
Fuck you OP he deserves all the love

>>16530008
rushia used to strip for random men on camera

>>16529753
False
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm35852162
You can clearly see Maimoto, who is clearly a male as Subaru won't collab with him anymore, that Maimoto in a collab with okakoro

>>16526124
ENs still need ID to collabs with stars, so they can put the blame on ID's if something goes wrong, ENs are trash are per usual except for myth

>>16530098
Fine. But this example is really pushing it when he's not even on the same team as them and he's larping as a baby.

>>16526124
>Ollie and Bae
No thanks, my ears can't take it.

>>16530008
>self-inserts as a micropenis
You guys are actually pretty funny when you're honest.

>>16529800
they're out there fr

>>16530081
yeah all of those men were me

>>16527479
Greynamechama..

>>16528580
Based, but also a dumb move if you wanted gachikois in the traditional way, now let's see if the things goes well for him in the long run or not because of this, the ones no adapting if male x female collab being successful will shrink

https://twitter.com/CloudwindsLoL/with_replies
This is what your average /hlgg/ user is like, they're XQC and Re:Zero fans

>>16530445
Braver than most

>>16530443
He still had like 60% of the people who answered the poll as gachikois in a recent poll he did so

>>16529687
Cope chilean scum, unlike you I am leaving the direction up to the talent. I follow them for their talent, not for some autistic identity politics. I don't care nor want to be Japanese. I just watch fun things that are fun.
>>16529015
>>seething
That's you, that's why you run here to hide from the mods like the autistic child that you are. The talents do not care for your clobbered hiragana and kanji.
P.S. you used the wrong particle

>>16527950
Huh? Dang, where did I get this impression that Mumei does speak Japanese well.
(also, if it's the case... It reminds me of that shark-alien disaster. Thankfully this is just a Gartic Phone)

>>16530594
YWNBJ

>>16530497
That's incredibly high desu, Subaru who wants to chase them has lower percentage even dropping male collabs

>>16530618
Pretty sure she claims she learned it once but then forgot.

>>16529723
The gayest star is Shien

>>16530657
Thank God. Imagine being born on a dying island with unpaid overtime.

>>16530443
He's got still got a ton of gachis and is at the upper end of the stars when it comes to getting superchats, though

>>16528599
>>16529417
meds

>>16529223
>Newfag calling other a newfag

>>16528032
Projection?

>>16530098
subaru is a traitor anon, we don't talk about her. after all maimoto did for her, she dropped him like shit

>>16530355
It wasn’t her it was some girl named snowkittyofmars, just some girl who sort of looks like her. Her face was covered in the nude pics as well

>>16530445
They're really a newfag normies huh

>>16529042
based

This topic really gets the nijifags riled up and seething.

>>16530594
>P.S. you used the wrong particle
Holy retard

>>16530283
Yeah well I'm not suggesting they were whores fucking every man in sight. I just mean there wasn't the "if you even look at a man in the same collab you're dropped" mentality that retard unicorns have and are pandered to, to the point Mumei of all people being with some Stars in a gartic phone collab is seen as a horror.
Korone probably would've showed up a few times in collabs with male vtubers in it, as opposed to basically once. She still regularly collabs with 3D men because unicorns don't care about that yet but some of the recent unicorns seem to be so retarded that they're starting to get offended over that

>>16530443
Anon, Astel is the most superchatted star and has the highest CCV after Roberu. He's doing fine

>>16530773
>Newfags defending newfags

>>16528032
Did you know sora also collab with males several times in the past? that includes Miko, Suisei, and other daisenpai too

>>16526124
While I admit I would like the good members of Hololive to stay in their lane and this sort of development makes that unlikely, in this specific case I actually feel more sorry for the Homos. It's actually sad that they are in such a position that it's considered a good thing to get a grab-bag of whores to collab with them. It was better when they were at least getting someone like Fubuki but Ollie and her tagalongs really just reflect badly on the Homos.

>>16530862
>he actually used the wrong particle
KEK
Lurk 39 more years on 5ch.

>>16530863
I think people are just getting annoyed at the whole trend, not the specific interaction. Pretty sure nobody who cares about this stuff ever liked Mumei due to her roommate.

>>16530973
I don't know what the fuck are you talking about, retard.

>>16531055
>pretending to be stupid after outing himself
Nice try retard. Next time reply with "meds" to save face. Maybe your sissycord buddies will come to rescue you.

damn im not a unicorn but it just feels good knowing my oshi will NEVER collab with a male on stream. makes my (fragile) ego rest easy.

anyway, hoomans learn to control your oshi lol

>>16526957
Most are fine but if you look at /stars/ most of them are butthurt fujos

>>16530594
>>16530973
No-one used a wrong particle.
Someone wrote "kinda of cringe to be honest" in messed up japanglish in response to me calling the OP also an outsider, somebody questioned why they used the katakana (not a grammar particle in this scenario) for nu instead of n, but messed up japanglish is intented to be wrong so like who cares

Council really speedrunning the title for worst holo gen huh
Also this is entirely Ollie's fault and she should graduate

>>16531151
Are globalfags this stupid? I wasn't the anon you think I was. I don't know what the fuck are you trying to convey

>>16531278
That's not what's being referenced.

>>16531226
Posts like these are going to look hilarious in November when StarsEN are doing collabs with Myth and Council.

>>16531346
Learn English before trying to call globalfags stupid. You'll realize how many mistakes you're making.

>>16531275
/stars/ barely has any Holostars fan left, only Holopro antis that have been shitting up the thread for months now

>>16531226
Ohhhh there will be times when one of the ens begging her to collabs with males togethurrr

>>16531442
ogey

>>16531369
>>16531442
Nobody who is a native English speaker has learned what "particle" refers to in English, as our classes don't teach us that or any grammar, they ask about how to interpet a conceit (a long metaphor) or read some free verse or iambic pentamter or whatever garbage. Now, ESL, please teach us what they taught you a "particle" is in your class because us native speakers don't know

>>16530804
You Nijifags only blame Subaru when plenty of people 'backstabbed' him because he's not getting as much numbers as he used to get anymore. And the reality is he probably also 'backstabbed' his low numbers 'friends' too but you Nijifags won't talk about it.

>>16528599
Nice fanfic. Is this what you got from reading /vt/ threads?
For starters a lot of the girls didn't really collab with males that often. Yes, male collabs were accepted and nobody really complained about them back in the day, but they were always a minority. For certain girls you could count the amount of male collabs before Gen3 with one hand.
Then they were already starting to slow down with the male interactions before Gen3 showed up. This was most likely because they started pushing Hololive to be more "idol-like". According the Mio and Subaru that whole thing happened when Hololive started working on ShinySmilyStory which was released in August before Gen3 was even done debuting. The whole drama with the debut of Holostars didn't help either. So when Gen3 came out those girls just followed suit. Also, Gen3 was not as successful as you think it was, it took most of them a long time to really take off.
Then the final nail in the coffin for male collabs for most of the Holo girls was (ironically) the merge of Hololive and Holostars into Hololive Production. Lots of schizos threw a tantrum about that. It's literally what prompted that Miko NO MALES clip that everyone posts all the time.
https://youtu.be/j6h0rbjWx5E
https://prtimes.jp/main/html/rd/p/000000173.000030268.html

TLDR Gen3 didn't really change anything they just copied what other girls were starting to do

>>16531680
Anon, no actual Nijifag would say that if they really watched maimoto, because they'd know how he feels

>>16526124
>damn, HoloEN actually collabing with the homos
>this is rare
>see Ollie
Imagine me shock

>>16526124
Papa Pizza is cool though, he doesn't even have a dick anymore (it fell off when he joined hololive).

>>16531589
Don't pretend to be a native speaker now ESL, especially since you can't seem to figure out what was being referenced and the fact that your second sentence fell apart. Stay in school, you desperately need it.

>>16528599
>>Niji dodgeball happens
I'm a newfag
spoon me
what happened?
why did niji unicorn leave female niji after this?

>>16531226
Mumei is not afraid of losing some gachikois, she's just proving how much more professional she is than, Gawr "The Ayame of EN" Gura

>>16531863
Niji people met up to play dodgeball, then 5ch made up rrats that they were having mass orgies actually. This had no real impact on the viewership and in fact the Nijifemale viewership had it's peak a couple of months later so that anon bringing it up is either a retard or just trying to force rrats

>>16531753
Glad my oshi doesn't interact with this hoe!

What will happen when a few SEA schizos send Ollie superchats complaining about it? She's a people-pleaser after all

>>16529042
males x females were always a thing
but now we have
> e-thoths becoming vtubers and calling their own fans beta cucks, and simps still donate their entire paycheck (extremely low standards faggots who deserve rope).
> landwhales and roasties becoming vtubers them posting their irl faces two weeks later for attention.
> e-celebs farming content and begging for clout, attracting retarded kids.
> western whiteknights defending whores and roasties for pussy crumbles and lowering the standards.
> normies becoming vtubers and pushing their stupid agenda
> twitchfags imposing their shitty culture

>>16532028
>SEA superchats
She'll call them retsrded for the 15th time. She wouldn't associate with them at all if she could.

>>16530863
>I just mean there wasn't the "if you even look at a man in the same collab you're dropped" mentality that retard unicorns have and are pandered to, to the point Mumei of all people being with some Stars in a gartic phone collab is seen as a horror.
I refuse to believe most of those people are for real. Either they're falseflagging retards or they want to argue with "muh slippery slope" bullshit.
I think if I cared about Mumei that much I would've been more annoyed about her showing up in Holostars chats on her own rather than this collab.

>>16530445
>antivaxxer

>>16531792
Why are you so mad at anonymous users on an uruguayan capybara breeding forum? (You) are the only one itt sperging around for some reason.

>>16532028
She'll offer them a meet-up where she can blow them all and they'll move on to someone else to watch.

>>16532145
>want to argue with "muh slippery slope" bullshit.
We've always been proven right.

>>16532028
Stoned to death by majority of poor SEA who supportd it

>>16532145
Are you honestly pretending the slippery slope isn't real?

>>16532028
play the victim like women do
> b-but i always had male friends!
or act like astel and tell them to fuck off

>>16532028
2 options
>She will go full rage on unicorns and it will be clipped to death = even more male collabs
>She will vent out in a members stream and take a break = just like the first connor meltdown

>>16526124
Doesn't Mumei literally have a...you know? I don't see why you guys would unicorn her out of all people lmao.

>>16532251
Slippery slope is literally a logical fallacy. You're literally just making up increasingly extreme and hypothetical shit to support whatever viewpoint you have.

AVE MUMEI

>>16532251
Oh sure, because Moona and Reine were totally participating in more collabs with the stars after the two full IDstars collabs

>>16526444
This. Casuals ruin everything.

>>16532381
This.
She gets dicked down on the reg. What the fuck difference is a group collab with a Homostar gonna make.

>>16532251
>>16532223
@ when Gura collabs with them
So far every single girl that """suddenly""" collabed with a Homostar was someone that was already interacting with them in public months ago anyway

>>16532552
Donating condom money to her and then complaining that she collabs with a literal who homostar. This board has to be a parody.

Don't let fujos and male feminists on this board shame you for having standards, unicorn bros.
how many western whores will pander to unicornchads for our money, but the moment we expect some commitment , we're suddenly raging misogynist 'incels'...
they'll use buzzwords like these to shame you if you dare to expect something from women besides them playing games and doing cute noises while earning a ton of money.
there's also a lot salty 2views and indies who got rejected by JP corpos from /asp/ and /wvt/, hating GFE and idolchads is how they cope.
don't be a cuck like EN oil barons, brainwashed by vshojos talking about how many guys they fucked in a single night.
t. fandead

>>16532389
The slippery slope keeps getting proven true time and time again and the only defense retards like you ever have is "all this trending downwards is coincidental and you can't prove one thing follows the other so it's not an argument".

>>16532651
>>16530008
stop falseflagging schizo

>>16531792
You clearly learned English as your second language and are just trolling. What country/region are you from? SEA? For some reason SEA ESL seem to get the most upset at people that are native speakers and call them ESL for no reason. I'm in an undergraduate program at a state college and drowning in student debt. For my AP Lit exam I learned about anaphora, polysyndeton, chiasmus, malapropism, other shit I don't remember, while talking about stream of conciousness writing reading fucking "A Portait of the Artist as a Young man" by that dumbass joyce, and how to point out "logos, pathos, ethos" for groveling for points on the AP exam. Meanwhile you're some SEA monkey who knows nothing saying I should learn English, fuck off.

>>16532651
based

Women were a mistake

Most autistic thread in a while.

>>16532651
based king, i'll associate with you over any faggot who thinks wom*n should be exempt from any standards.
Those girls make literal millions per year as an "entertainer", while the average cuckold works his daily 8 hours to simp for a girl fucking someone else.

They cope by hating on the men who at least have some requirements and standards for their parasocial crushes.

>>16532651
Based

>>16532914
I mean, where do you think you are?

>>16526124
Is this the part where EOPs watch the collab and then go "Well it wasn't THAT bad...." and continue to watch Mumei and Bae? I don't wish for either girl to get antis and I hope they have fun, but I wanna see if the vocal anti-men side keep their word and genuinely stop watching them. Or maybe they just rationalize that Holostars are allowed but other guys aren't idk

> Don't let fujos and male feminists on this board shame you for having standards, unicorn bros.
> how many western whores will pander to unicornchads for our money, but the moment we expect some commitment , we're suddenly raging misogynist 'incels'...
> they'll use buzzwords like these to shame you if you dare to expect something from women besides them playing games and doing cute noises while earning a ton of money.
> there's also a lot salty 2views and indies who got rejected by JP corpos from /asp/ and /wvt/, hating GFE and idolchads is how they cope.
> don't be a cuck like EN oil barons, brainwashed by vshojos talking about how many guys they fucked in a single night.
> t. fandead

>>16532651
based. My JP oshi will also never collab with filthy males. She will be mine forever.

> based king, i'll associate with you over any faggot who thinks wom*n should be exempt from any standards.
> Those girls make literal millions per year as an "entertainer", while the average cuckold works his daily 8 hours to simp for a girl fucking someone else.

> They cope by hating on the men who at least have some requirements and standards for their parasocial crushes.

Subaru and Maimoto...
Jk&27...

> based. My JP oshi will also never collab with filthy males. She will be mine forever.

>>16532651
Incredibly based

>>16533161
I'm happy that Yashiro escaped from that slut

>>16526124
This hobby is finished, I'm going back to anime

>>16532731
based fellow ap literature chad. i literally haven't thought about a single one of those terms since i graduated high school though.

Any bets that mumei misunderstood and didn't even realise there would be a male?

>>16533037
I use this place pretty heavily, but this thread is still one of the worst I've ever come across.

I miss Kaoru

>>16532655
Right, and the opposite of this is true. People need to speak up when they see signs that things will go wrong, before the slippery slope actually become a thing.

>>16531716
1st time seeing that Miko clip and wow. The way she talks just amuses me. It's like she's treading on egg shells the whole clip.
>n-no, I'm not interested with collabing with h-holostars...
>miko is an i-idol, I cant collab with m-males...
She handled that question like a pro, if a little awkwardly.

>>16533557
To bad she had messages from MEN on Mikkorone24

>>16533590
kys retard

It's fucking Mumei of all people though. You know Mumei? There can't be any unironic unicorns for Mumei surely?

>>16533436
Too busy with trpgs and amogus to come back to holostars, please andahstand

>>16532189
If you think my posts are seething and sperging out, you need to spend more time on 4chan newfag.
>>16532731
Your syntax reeks of ESL, stupid. There's no way you're in an AP Lit class in a state college kek, because if you were you'd know they're called Honors classes. And anyone with a high enough GPA can take them.
>malaproprism
Thank you for outing yourself as an ESL once again. Let me guess, you're in the ELA concentration kek.
>stream of conciousness
So you're a baby who just finished his intro to lit theory kek. You should have learned about this back when you studied Woolf. Come back to me when you've read Aurbach, Eagleton, and have your graduate thesis ready for peer review kek. Only a massive insecure ESL would try to ham up his first intro classes as anything noteworthy kek. Is that why you're so fixated on SEAniggers? Imagine trying to make stream of conciousness anything noteworthy.

>>16533609
Can't cope can you 35piss

>>16533612
chronically autistic gf.. that you have to feed and wash.. drive her to the park with her animal.. she's perfect..

>>16533612
I like when people bring this up for almost every EN.

>>16533700
Don't forget to put the shopping cart back

>>16533650
>kek kek kek kek
Shut the fuck up retard.

>>16533088
Please stop murdering Samoans.

>>16533763
Seethe harder.

>>16533386
I would kneel so fucking hard if she cancels the collab or at least doesn't participate in it.

>>16533650
way to destroy the EPIC OWNAGE score of your post with kek tourettes

>>16531226
Antincipate Gura collab with Sodapoppin

>>16533934
Shalom reddit.

>>16526124
I hope mumei will be smart enough to not stream her pov at least

>>16533072
Literally not a single person who cares about this was watching either of them in the first place. They already made it clear where they stand on this issue a long time ago. It's part of the hate they already got. This changes nothing.

hopefully the fans warm up to the idea of mixed collabs, it'd be fun to watch sykkuno/gura and mori/charlie. imagine the kino

>>16532976
>Those girls make literal millions per year as an "entertainer"
>When the twitch leak had showed XQC mogs them in just months
EN oil baron bros? Why an ugly twinkie who has a girlfriend has more oil barons than HoloEN?

>>16533985
kek nice kek try kek

>>16534104
There is nothing kino in that. Who the fuck are those normie streamers anyway

>>16534104
Fuck off faggot.

>>16534175
Don't forget to finish your hw!

>>16534104
>mori/chalie
Anon...unironically we are on a point where Charlie is a better option for a male collab for Mori than the cunts she is hanging out with rn.
desu...she probably already forgot about Charlie rn.

>>16534190
that's just the average malecollab enjoyer

>>16534236
Unironic question, how do you enjoy a malecollab when they barely know each other?
Just like how forced collabs are just terrible in general, a forced malecollab is just going to be equally terrible if not worse.

>>16533650
AP Lit was from high school retard. I'm currently in my undergrad program for a STEM field, of course I would reference the last english course I took in the past few years because it's something that's a unique experience enough to identify myself as a native speaker. Of course it's not anything noteworthy. Meanwhile if you're the same person from the beginning of this conversation, no-one understands why you sperged out. You said to lurk more on 5ch after someone made supposedly an English mistake? What english mistake is there in "t. seething globalfag". There is an adjective and a noun, no particles. One would assume you were talking about a Japanese particle due to the 5ch comment, but then you started saying there's an english mistake when there was none. Only an ESL would think that, but since you clearly have some more knowledge of English than the average ESL, then you're just a troll purposefully wasting people's time.

>>16534074
This board loves Mumei and Bae though, try talking to people other than the voices in your head.

>>16534208
Sorry underaged, not all of us are just here for the weekend like you. Let me know if you need any help with yours though, I can actually finish writing a sentence without kekking, your teacher will deduct less points.

>>16526444
Trips pf truth

>>16526124
I really fucking hope this seeds out the unicorns one after another. The world has no place for them and they know it, hence the banshee wailing they're screeching out right now.

>>16528652
>suisei sounds like a man so who cares? and sora who?

>>16534413
least autistic post ITT

oh no no no unicornbros? our queen is rushia stripping for a male!!!!

English and Indos don't have the same standards as JPs
American pop stars are technically idols, do you think they shouldn't interact with men?
You all need copium

>>16534561
who?

off yourselves unicorns, ywn have a GF

>>16534434
No one claimed otherwise. This board is at least 90% of people who don't give a fuck about stuff like this, they just jack off and don't give a shit about the emotional investment (or get off on being abused). Everyone does get some hate and they get hate for things specific to them, in the case of Mumei and Bae, this aspect of them was already prominent on the list.

>>16534479
>Let me know if you need any help with yours though
You clearly can't since your posts had spelling mistakes and run on sentences. I must have struck a nerve, underaged AND an ESL eh? Oof, better luck next round.
Here's another kek you can hyperfixiate on! KEK
P.S. The "A very short introduction" series might help your peabrain understand Joyce. You won't have to labor yourself understanding his prose! KEK

>>16534561
abayo

>>16526124
>Bitches can't control their pussies
More news at 11

>>16534779
>hyperfixiate
hyperfixate*

>>16532461
AVE

>>16534908
Thank you. It's hard to focus when I'm laughing so hard!

>>16526124
Pizza dad is cool. I've been dipping in and out of his Paper Mario streams. But I really fucking hate Ollie 1 & 2.

>>16528838
You will never be Japanese. You have no ancestry, you have no citizenship, you have no skills that would make Japan ever want you. You are a shut-in self-hating white man twisted by delusions of mythical Japanese superiority and exposure to Japanese media into a disgusting mockery of nature’s perfection. All 'validation' you get from other people in this position couldn't be worse in making you believe that spending years of your life learning a globally useless language to a first-grader's level was a worthwhile use of your time, but one can't expect that an individual as pathetic as you will ever know the value of the youth you threw away in doing that. Actual Japanese are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of linguistic evolution have allowed natives to identify frauds from mannerisms and vocabulary alone. Even if your written text of self-hatred and attention begging akin to a stray dog's somehow passes as normal (it won't), any Japanese person will immediately cut all ties when they hear the voice and accent of someone who is not only a basic Japanese speaker at best, but worth no more than garbage in skills, accomplishments, and likeability. You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile and laugh to yourself believing that watching a content creator that you understand 20% of at best is somehow superior than watching your own kind, as you project your disgusting traits onto your entire kind. However, deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight, and you know that. You know that all you do now is have an entirely new linguistic medium in which to be ignored, and not even the exotic trait of being foreign makes up for just how uninteresting of a person you are. Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a Western man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably Caucasian. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back. Hate yourself and apologize for being white to some Japanese entity that exists only in your mind while actual Japanese people put in effort to learn English for the valid reason of it being the global language.

I actually would like to see some cross-branch collabs but I can't watch anything when it involves Ollie, she always goes too deep into the cringe territory and no one has the balls to tell her to shut her stupid fucking mouth before she makes it awkward for everyone else.

>>16534987
I don't want to be Japanese though.

>>16528838
You will never be Japanese, you will never find the love of your life in Japan, who looks like this and is a cutie pie Japanese girl. You will never be the protagonist in an anime, you will never have superpowers that allow you to overcome your most greatest tribulations, you will always be a loser.

>>16532381
yes, this means the pizza man will never touch her because she's already taken.
>>16533557
it's funny because the stream that was from was only two weeks out from the last time Maimoto, Kosaka and her were on stream proselytizing about eroge, there would have been a collab even closer than that with Tukasa, Joker and I think wrench but she backed out of that one.

>>16535069
I still don't want to be Japanese.

>>16535071
Dont you forget there will be shien and oga too on the stream

>>16532651
Based

The funniest thing is that Mumei doesnt even speak Japanese. Thats how badly she wants the D

>>16535212
Imagine calling a false flagger based

>>16532651
based

>>16535115
oga and shien are gay for eachother

>>16526444
Based and true

>>16534987
Have you ever considered people don't want to be Japanese, they just want the Japanese to continue to exist? Not everyone sees the value in destroying other cultures that you seem to.

>>16528032
Oh what's wrong chief, did anon touched a nerve?

>>16535312
Seethe about it in your dreams tonight faggot

>>16535482
Are unicorns so retarded that they will willingly defend a false flagging faggot that uses lord farquaad as a self representation?
At least call an actual unicorn based instead of making a mockery of yourself...

>>16532651
based king

>>16529042
Vtubing isn't a hobby, it's a corporate product, this image doesn't apply on /vt/

>>16535841
>card games aren't a hobby, they're a corporate product

>>16535724
i wasn't falseflagging though, it's just one schizo trying to invalidate my speech calling me a falseflagger

>>16534413
>AP Lit was from high school retard
If you read my post correctly, you wouldn't need to state this, stupid.
>to identify myself as a native speaker
A native speaker shouldn't feel the need to identify himself. Especially in a bait thread
>no one understands why you sperged out
You have to be genuinely autistic to think that's sperging out. I replied to one autist in similiar syntax to his and you were retarded enough to take it at face value.
I tried to make it even more obvious it's a shitpost by following the same mouthbreathing syntax and you still fell for it like an idiot. The ad hominem should have made it obvious but neither you nor the other retards picked up on it.
>wasting everyones time
In a bait thread? You really didn't think your post through, did you? Lurk moar. If you were serious about the topic at hand, you'd be in /jp/.

>>16535945
Tell me about anything only an actual fandead would know about Rushia and isn't something from scrolling through her thread

>>16532651
Based fandead, no matter how much western whores, redditors, /vt/'s jannies, discord trannies and roasties push against us. The JP holos and Cover appreciate us and know we are the backbone of their success.