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I think Council outfit reveal views should be divided by 5 to compare to Luxiem's 100k celebration. The reason why is because the ratio of their subs is 1:5. Should be fair.
Mysta BTFO'd
KR idols mogging everyone even Vshojo, do they get 16k easily?
>>16459114
Mysta announced that he has more than 900 members
>>16459114>muh ratio
>>16459152HoloKR when?
>>16459152Can't wait to falseflag and pit Isegye vs Vshojo.
>mysta from 7k to 6k after king startedwelp
Is this a new agency? How long have they been on Twitch?
>>16459152YAGOO PLEASE GIVE US HOLOKR
Reminder that a debuffed King still gets more numbers that Mysta with event buff
>>16459127What Mysta should do to retain his numbers?75% of female audience severely limits the amount of available buffs.
>>16459244>he doesn't know about HoloKR-lite
>>16459216For what purpose? There's maybe one vshojo fag who pops in here and I'm pretty sure he's one of those guys who jump to whoever has the most numbers
Any predictions for the Council outfits ? I really hope Kronii hits 100k. The rest is in the range of 40k-70k
>>16459247HoloKR will be a Twitch exclusive branch
>>16459321The ratio should be 1:5, if Kronii gets 60k, then it's only 12k. Still high compared to Luxiem though.
>>16459321lol they are not gonna get no where near that, 40k max if you're being generous
>>16459321>Kronii hits 100kAs much as I want big numbers I don't see any of them hitting more than 60k
>>16459321Sana 10-15kFauna 15-20kBaelz 20-25kMumei 30-35kKronii 35-40k
>>1645932120-30k
>>16459321Kronii might get 80k, rest is probably 40k-60k
Today's top 10?
>>16459277Well he's kinda stuck in the same boat with Vox where they have to go full parasocial gay to retain their fanbase because they already turned off any normal guys from watching them.>>16459247Domeone explained it a few days ago but most of their group are converts headed by a really popular male streamer.
>>16459339good
>>16459321There is no way any of them will hit 100k in 30 minutes. 60-70k sounds about right
He-Ayame got in too late to contest Mel's gold and the King... let's not talk about it
>>16459277Doing what Vox did:Playing genshin while doing fujo shit.
>>16459359This is the numbers thread not the alchemy thread, we don't do that here
ENTER TOYA
>>16459430TOYAAAAAAAA
toya started after midnight so it's counting for tomorrow
>>16459443too late...
>>16459438We did it during ccvid Era.
>>16459430What a shame he's gonna get mogged by Council's outfits
>>16459438I'm counting Mysta's memberships manually right now. He has around 3563. Pretty high.
>King... ;-(Should we just crown Mysta as the new King and be done with it? I don't want to wait until Kuzuha is dead for good
>>16459535>5K shitter>KING
>>16459321Sana 20k-35kFauna 30k-40kBaelz 35k-50kMumei 50k-65kKronii 65k-80k
>>16459484And until a similar event crushes the entire board wholesale we are not doing that.
>>16459375There is no cull, so all of them will beat Gura's numbers
>>16459152>twitchThe Zimbabwe dollar of CCV.
>>16459535He always scored around these numbers when he played valorant
>>16459535Mysta would be lucky to get 4k playing Valorant.
>>16459430>he never learn
>>16459608kek
>>16459608
>>16459152Many anons prophecized that if there were a company to surpass Hololive it would come from Korea.
Botan at 12k Toya at 18k
>>16459152>vwhorejo mogged by gooksTwitch retards eternally BTFO
>>16459535>comparing King with a nobody NijiEN was a mistake
>>16459430Well, it's the day after. So Mel still gets the gold.
Valo is absolute numbers cancer, if the next big FPS doesn't come out before Apex dies its long overdue death then VSPO, Merise and like half of Nijisanji are fucked
>>16459682To be fair, Kuzuha is a middle of the pack nobody these days.
I want Isegye to blow up so bad that Koreans will not even know what a Hololive is.
>>16459797>So that koreans will not even know what a NijiKR isFTFY
>>16459797And they will pay tribute to Hololive. Win win.
>>16459722don't worry anon, overwatch 2 will d-pfffttt
>>16459779Valorant is a dog shit game to stream and his fujos don't watch it.
>>16459797It's happening
>>16459779They added the music shits to his back to carry anon please understand
so wait, a korean agency popped up out of nowhere and is getting more viewers on twitch than vshojo AFTER they gave up their pussies to sodapoppin and mizkif?do their fans desire NTR this badly?
Play tarkov
>>16459535Post Mysta's graph anon, surely his numbers is bigger that King, right?
>>16459864>do their fans desire NTR this badly?they're korean so its pretty darn natural
>>16459797Their core fanbase are mostly holofags tho
>>16459864Absolutely mogged NijiKR as well
>>16459864Gooks millenials and zoomers are more dedicated on watching stream more than even the nips
>vshojo promotes themselves as "biggest agency in the twitch"Bros...
>>16459896Then Isegye will soon dominate Hololive fans as well. Remember that Koreans will always make amything Japanese bettee, from music, animation to comic to now, vtubers.
>>16459875gets even LESS views the valo nigger.
>>16459982how about learning english first?
>>16459535Did he got traumatized by Apex (AkA pulling an Aqua) or Riot's zhangs investors are unloading big buckets to a lot of vtubers to play their shitty Overwatch meets CS:GO vidya?
>>16459797>>16459982Maybe if they didn't clad themselves in hololive that might happen, but considering they do, no.
>>16459851>overwatch 2oh yeah what even happend to that? buried because actbliz going to get sued ?
>>16459982Don't care so long as it isn't Nijishitty or Whoreshojo who's at the top.
do korean vtubers get two debuts? one with a normal, ugly face and then a second after the plastic surgery?
>>16460037apparently still in development and releasing this year but still no date
>>16459608>>16459637>Halloween massacre>Winning over he-ayameWas Mel the actual strongest idol?
>>16459982If they create EN branch with English speaking Koreans, Cover, VShojo, AnyColors would need pack it up, it's fucking over
>>16460008no apex is just full of cheaters and snipers , there was a hashtag from the asian community BEGGING to save apex but I doubt respawn gives a shit
apex will have a dead cat bounce after the next big update, there are a still a lot of people invested in it coming back so they can get another round of the apex sec discord
Anything interesting happening in NijiKR? What are their numbers? Did the ccvid affect them too?
wait, what's the number of ririmu's outfit reveal earlier? she got mad engagement on her twitter https://twitter.com/makaino_ririmu/status/1482313332942315522/photo/2
>>16458534Iroha have 335k views while Marine have 425k.
>>164601757-8k
>>16459982Nah... Cover WILL buy them
>>16460175vrabi has her as 12.6k
>>1646017512k
>>16460215do it yagoo, make these fags seethe even more
>>16459982>come home
>>16460204She got 12k you lying cunt
>SEA agencies can't beat Hololive>Chinese agencies can't beat Hololive>Western agencies can't beat Hololive>Japanese agencies can't beat HololiveTime for the Koreans to show them how it's done
>>16460225>>16460235it's really jarring to see the discrepancy of a niji's twitter engagement compared to their actual viewers.
>>16460175She peaked at 12.6k, then the graph goes all wonky because she revealed her plushie later + crouch pose.
>>16460281But hololive don't have a korean branch.
>>16460291They use bots anon
>>16460291That's pretty normal for Nijitwitter.Nijikeks love engaging on twitter (and apparently discord) but can't be assed to watch streams it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7v-KOUHZE>Honma orison>30k views after She has 630k subs. This is a fall from grace.
>>16460292dunno why she got the crouch pose desu, i can't think of a use on day to day streams.
>>16460317Isegye is yagoo's secret project
>>16460356I can think of a reason
>>16459114Sana has 200k subs. The 5 man Luxiem celebration had a total of 12k~ viewers. They have a combined subds of 500k. Sana only has to get 6k to out ratio Luxiem.
>>16460392kek fair enough.
>>16460356It looks cute, a good enough reason to me.
>>16460346Honhima hasn't been relevant since forever
>>16460291The power of having a Topic.People will see and like your tweet but can't be bothered to watch you.
>>16460291cost of engagement anon
>>16460346She's currently doing an ASMR off-collab with Patra and Rena that got barely over 4k....
>>16460281Ahhh hololive kpop idols with choreography dance, imagine that
>>16460281Koreans are certainly better at being idols. But what about games, though? League all day every day?
Hey remember that indie we talked about last thread?She's gained a little over 200 subs in the past nine hours
>Vshojo vs random korean agency
>>16460603Oh lord...I can see why there is much seething WRT Hololive on this board that has many an indie chubba hovering around.
Mysta around ~5500 on his stream. No other NijiEN is overlapping him.>>16460556Hololive mostly hires people who are two steps away from dying if they do any sort of physical activity.
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1481244304136077314?s=20Subaru nendo soon
>>16460074>winningThey're not even streaming at the same day and he's now at 27k...
>>16460556hololive doesnt have choreography at all
https://mobile.twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1482286580295663621Viral in tiktok help her, checking the comment section of the song definitely suggests so.
>>16460557They were considered the best region for Tekken for quite some time until pakis started traveling and giving them competition
can someone explain cat poster to me
>>16460556Cover seriously should step up their game, there's a reason Korean idols beat Japanese idols pretty badly. Talk about SOUL or shit all you want but people naturally wanna see good performance.
Is Mori the first holo in a while to break out of having literally half or lower than Gura's subs? She's got 10k 1,880,000 to Gura's 3,740,000
>>16460712HAHAHa that implies that k choreographers would give a shit about handing japs a win like that
>>16459982No
>>16460681
>>16460696Some faggot using cats to get around the avatarfagging rule.
>>16460712Anon, the majority of Hololive girls are badly out of shape or have some sort of medical condition.
>>16460346Honhima was never famous for singing and probably never will since this is very mediocre and lazy for a major debut 1st single MV, especially when they originally hyped her to debut more than a year ago with together Mito (which actually delivered a striking major debut as expected), but Hima's debut got delayed to hell and they never even gave an update about this until last month. Not even Namori's art and Higedriver can save this. Her hiatuses also didn't help.
>>16460717Now that you mention it, yeah she is, and only just.
>>16460603Please sub to Watame's sister...
>>16460773thats pretty embarrassing anon
>>16460819good thing the numbers say they should just stay home and play minecraft/ark all day
>>16460819Well I was talking about getting new girls, their current cast is kinda hopeless.
>>16460681Watch streams you idiot.
>>16460825Why are niji so incompetent in handling their talents personal career? It's like they only care for the groups they produced themselves
>>16460712The only thing they need to do is hire choreographers, even the stiffest boards could dance if taught well.
>>16460687Well, going viral on Tiktok helped RIM with Carnivorous Plant, and god knows Aqua's songs could use an algo boost.
Once a new JP wave with new boys debuts their numbers will probably fall to the same level as the girls kek. Fujos are already proving themselves to not be loyal
>>16460893its pretty bad anon...
>>16460894Sounds like you solved the mystery!
>>16460856>>16460907anon be shitposting
>>16460894It's Sony handling her major debut, Nijisanji is pretty much just lending the talents to them because they're the ones who signed the contracts. Plus Hima also had a lot going in the background, like almost dying to COVID that she caught because she bought something in a convenience store.
>>16460856It's SOVL! Something that you certainly lack anon...
>>16461000twappers...
>>16460904Mysta losing half of his 10k+ just by being overlapped by JP males.If Vox stream over him he falls further because they share a fanbase.
>>16460987>SonyTch! Seems like another soul got sacrificed for another qurter of invesment.>anywayHow's deron and sony doing right now?
I know she gets some from Streamlabs too but $900 in superchat over 3 birthday streams and a premiere for a Hololive member is utterly embarrassing
>>16461101Risu ran out her big donors a long time ago.>>16461062Deron sells under 2k albums these days iirc.
>>16461101That's like 13mil in ID anon, which is quite a lot for theie standard i think
Seriously though, why are holos so bad at dancing, back in high school I saw people pulling better move after a few weeks.
>>16461209And i bet she only got a very small portion of the share after sony and niji cut.
>>16461226hags.
>>16461211Not that the YouTube and Cover cut
>>16461226>>16460819You are either a full fledged idol or a good streamer, most Hololive girl right now are somewhere in betweenHololive should just make an idol branch who focus on being idol and no streaming if they really want to compete
>>16461062Deron isn't under Sony, only Honhima and Mito. Kaede is under Lantis takes care of her very well as she has already released two singles and did one concert with them plus whenever she releases something they make sure that she pops up in not less than 7 different radio shows and at least 2 TV shows to promote her single. Plus they also show her MVs as TV commercials, and she even got a tie up and sung the opening of an anime (though it wasn't really a popular one).Sadly Deron doesn't really get big numbers because I guess she just isn't clicking with the masses.As for Mito, the other one under Sony, they're investing really hard on her, her album was made by various popular composers including the guy who composed Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei OST and other famous Japanese names which made it spread to many people even non-vtuber watchers and even ranked 5th in Oricon Daily. Her 1st solo live was successful and they gave Mito her new 3D label outfit that they give to livers who are under music labels. So I guess something really just fucked up with Honhima's part of the deal, getting Namori and Higedriver also means they aren't really cutting corners either.
>>16461226>NEET>Menhara>Probanly got bullied during their school days>Otakus>Hags>various serious physical ailmentsGee.. i wonder why...
>>16461256I doubt she got any money back at all.I don't think that much in sales even pays back the production and advertising cost.
>>16461329Kaede gets a lot of money from her music stuff, otherwise she wouldn't sustain her lifestyle of habitually buying branded items to the point that Gucci stores already marked her as a VIP.
>>16461312I know Deron is under Lantis but thanks for the info tho. They really were went hard when she first relased her album. Just wondering about her music activities these days since i havent been catching up much
>>16461301> just make an idol branch who focus on being idol and no streaming if they really want to competeIsn't that just Azki ?
Mel has more golds in the past 3 months that Council has medals.
>>16461324I swear these girls do nothing but Social media, eat, attend meetings online, and then sleepwhy EVER go outside in japan when the shipping network could get you anything you wanted and quick
>>16461574banpíre strong...
>>16461101>>16461209https://youtu.be/So6evjXwzj0?t=753
>>16461595I mean that's literally their job
>>16461312I feel like pushing Deron as a singer was a mistake, back in the day she's one of the best singer around but that simply because there's barely any. Nowadays vsingers in her caliber are dime a dozen, I wouldn't even put her in top 5 innijisanji.
>>16460175kek 65k twitter likes, 12k actually watch it
Stop bullying council
>>16460674this one is cute
>>16461669I mean more than that did watch, there is viewer churn after all and it has 140k views
>>16460674nice
Koyori on Flare ARK stream now. Made her incline enough to get 10k
>>16461640I can bet they're all pychotic enough to not ever really socialize outside either, which might be detrimental if people found out it WAS them with the sole exception of hanging out with fellow talent
>>16461447Her newest single is probably the best in terms of MV view growth if we're talking about her Lantis stuff only, probably because of the anime boost. It got 450k views in half a year while Answer Song took a year to reach 450k. https://youtu.be/3lHskesG2Vghttps://youtu.be/rQN6mQpTAogWell, at least Lantis is still investing in giving her high quality stuff like Baddest's MV that uses new tech and they got the illustrator of Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari for the cover art of the single.
>>16461809Been there for a while.
>>16461669This is a normal situation in niji, besides there were overlaps
>>16461101You get out what you put in and Risu doesn't put a lot of effort into Hololive. She doesn't even have the benefit of being known for being unpopular like Anya.
>>16461809nah, someone ended a stream and she got some viewers from it
>>16461809they've been collabing for a whilekoyori's chart btw is the saddest shit, please someone let her hit 10k
>>16461841Why the fuck is it on the Nijisanji channel???? Why are they like this...
>>16461653I don't really think its a mistake because its her personal dream to be a singer and its up to livers to sign contracts anyway. If literal whos like Warabeda and Masaru can get a contract under Universal Music then singers like Chima or Levi can definitely also land a contract if they really wanted to.
>>16461948Nijisanji channel probably gets more views than her personal channel.Too bad Nijisanji puts so much content on that channel that everything gets buried.
>>16461930Nenes pc died thanks to ARK being a fucking mess and Botan ended her stream as well
>>16461948to boost the MV because the nijisanji channel has 2.5x more subs? it clearly worked anyway.
Pekora and Aqua should start Ark...
>>16461809Speaking of Koyori, she finally finished that boring as fuck card game. That was REAL numbers poison for her. The second episode of that had her sub 6k not too long after debut
>>16462061she's having a bad dayplease let her have 10k
>>16461470Not anymore. But I don't know much about it so dunno if Cover actually was putting effort in that branch
>>16461595Well they are streamers, that is typical streamer behavior
>>16461939she is where she deserves to be anon, numbers mean everything
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>29,249: Mel (Hololive)>26,011: Haachama (Hololive)>23,266: Pekora (Hololive)>21,898: Subaru (Hololive)>19,967: Iroha (Hololive)>19,940: Laplus (Hololive)>18,901: Miko (Hololive)>18,360: Hal (merise)>18,294: Iroha (Hololive)>18,113: ChroNoiR (Nijisanji)>17,411: Hal (merise)>15,808: Gura (Hololive)>15,277: Botan (Hololive)>14,745: Mumei (Hololive)>14,574: Hinano Tachibana (VSPO)>14,038: Ange (Nijisanji)>14,015: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>12,565: Suisei (Hololive)>12,533: Ririmu (Nijisanji)>11,686: Furen (Nijisanji)>10,778: Lui (Hololive)>10,081: Nene (Hololive)>10,034: Lauren (Nijisanji)To preempt the obvious question: Toya started after midnight JST so he's in tomorrow's tally. He finished at 29,211 too so he wouldn't have beaten Mel regardless
>>16462141MEL GOLDBANPIRE STRONG
>>16461948They don't want their talents to outgrow them, what else. They clearly have learned their lesson when Gibara, Lulu, and Bora all left to be independent of them.
>>16461226Some are good at it. The main problem is they have to share the stage with disabled people and fatties. >>16460888I don't know how many idol focused people would want to be in hololive. The 5 they just got are entertainers and streamers.
>>16462033A small boost for the MV isn't worth leeching all of Kaede's potential views and subs to the bloated main channel. At least not from Deron's point of view, I'm starting to think Niji would love all of the streams to be on one channel.
>>16462141missing Flare
>>16462208doesnt count
>>16462141Meru sama!I KNEEL to the superior vampire!
>>16462215>starts before midnight>peaks over 10k after 1AMNot fair that she won't be counted for either day.
>>16462250too bad
https://youtu.be/V1IRcSVwy14It a literall who 2view can afford to make this kind of MV, there's no reason for Holo and Niji to keep using PPT for their OG MVs
>>16462141Iroha on Minecraft sure is something. Seems like Minecraft is as strong as ever despite everyone playing Ark
>>16462250This is two days in a row this has happened, it's not exactly a rare occurence. Is there seriously no reason we can't wait another hour or so to get the late bloomers in?
>>16462208Sadly she peaked after 1AM JST, the cutting point for the tally.You can mention her as an aside if the tally is reposted after this thread but the "1AM cutting point" rule exists to make it the time to declare gold predictable.Nips do it even more hardcore, they take the tally 3 minutes before midnight so they can post it on matome exactly at the start of their hourly article, at the top of the hour
>>16462215kek what it doesnt count for either day because tallyanon jumped the gun too early?
>>16462287why put effort when shit eaters will gobble up anything you do? this is numbers thread
>>16462141If there's anything positive that Pekora decline bring, it's that gold have been more unpredictable and more exciting to watch
>>16462208just add her in the next thread
>>16462141Hololeive 14Nijisanji 98-2 ten. Holo medal sweep but the final score indicates it was closer than that.
>>16462287Watame and Kanata just did?
>>16462316nips are retarded, stop being lazy
>>16462312>Is there seriously no reason we can't wait another hour or soIronically that only happened twice so far since I started tallying. Pushing it to 2AM JST wouldn't solve it, it would just move the complaint to>WOW, this time Watame got it 2h30AM JST, plz move it to 3AM
>>16462337cope
>>16462141>He finished at 29,211 too so he wouldn't have beaten Mel regardlessUnless Council is a complete laughing stock then this won't medal tomorrow.
>>16462337where did the meme of adding other corpos to nijis came from
>>16462287if a png can get 10M+ views, why bother doing MVs?
>>16462366How fucking new
>>16462316nips count those peaks after midnight for next day, they dont mysteriously fade away
>>164622871 second of animation costs $1k on average
>>16462141How tf iroha got 20k, i thought MC is dead
>>16462287You are implying that's good? That's pretty much one of those "powerpoint transition" MVs, barely better than the "lyrics plus png" Hololive pumps out.I've seen better "wallpaper engine" animations, not even kidding
>>16462422iroha is the MC girl
>>16462287anon get in the times you're fucking embarrassing holy shit…https://youtu.be/Ndp6PhT-vlQhttps://youtu.be/RuKGfoREGeghttps://youtu.be/6VGkeUaX-zkhttps://youtu.be/zREufEpj0zM
>>16462358>Ironically that only happened twice so far since I started tallying.unless you're a different tallyanon from the first. I remember a few korone and watame streams missing out because of it
>>16462393Just repost the tally with Flare added if you will, there is nothing "official" in this anonymous cantonese vtuber bulletin board specially because, for all that matters, there are only two people in this whole board>you>me posting from 50-100 devices pretending to be other people
>>16462422She's an MC autist. I wouldn't be surprised if she was the one who helped set up the sportsfes command blocks now that I think about it.
>>16462468but that means acknowledging kenmochi and giving a medal to him so no
>>16462460I'm tallying since VNUMA died and I don't recall any other time a stream failed to beat 10k by 1AM but succeeded before the tally was tallied (meaning in the next 15 minutes or so).
>>16462513watame when she went to visit some coco stuff on minecraft, for one
>>16462512He wouldn't anyway anon, he started after midnight JST, what people are asking is for streams that started before midnight JST to count even if they peak after 1AM
>>16462366The absolute state of /#/
>>16462422PL used to run minecraft channel
>>16462366>24 years old boomer can't keep up with a 5 months old meme
>>16462578*cums on you*
>>16462287https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCvz1Nbk19s
>>16462625
>>16462557Tourists and newfags. So many tourists and newfags.
>>16462287Interestingly enough one of the FUCKING BEST MVs for an original is this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii7rtNaGllsIt is not only FULL 3D but she invented a fucking language for this original song and paid for all of that out of her pocket.Guess what?>IT TOOK FIVE HUNDRED FUCKING DAYS TO GET TO 1M VIEWSMeanwhile Gura released Reflect with no MV, not even lyrics on screen and got 1M in 8 hours or so.
>>16462316No if a stream doesn't count for the day it should be added to the next day tally. There shouldn't be a system where streams can just "vanish into the ether" like there's some kind of magic hour where streams don't count.
>>16462366Don't let them gaslight you, it's a retarded meme that shitposters continue perpetuating because nobody wants to die on a hill over it
>>16462287>1.5k views after five hoursYeah I'm sure they enjoyed the experience of pulling a big pile of money together and setting it on fire.
>>16462759She's been phenomenally unlucky. Bad timing on so many things, time and time again. She must have accumulated a lot of bad karma in a past life or something, because jeez she has GOT to have the WORST luck for getting taken out of things in all of Hololive. Like, has she released this song at a different time, I'm certain it would've done a lot better, but because of the timing....Same with her getting sidelined during the big initial boom and now getting taken out by vocal chord surgery RIGHT as a new ARK arc starts.
Illegal meta tags
>>16460008>Did he got traumatized by Apex (AkA pulling an Aqua)No I'd say it's more accurate to say that Apex is pulling a PUBG.
>>16463113>ホロライブ, にじさんじKEK
>>16463113>2022>Still using tags on YouTube
>>16463113Holy shit
>>16463113uh oh, the indog leech mythia already had to remove those tags from her videos and started to recline
>>16462952The truth is unless the MV is so ridiculously good, most people will treat them as backgrounds, but the powerpoint animation already doing that fine enough.
Laplus's Kamippoi gonna hit 6 mil soon.
>>16462141I still can't believe the haachamarine collab only got 26k...
>>16459230Mystamonkeys... it's brover
>>16459152Reminder that Nimu is the most popular vtuber in the world now. Just because /vt/ doesn't give a shit about Korean/Chinese/Hispanix vtubers doesn't mean they don't exist.
>>16464520>Nimu is the most popular vtuber in the world nowprove it
>>16464520>Nimu is the most popular vtuber in the worldIn the third world maybe yeah
>>16459403Sana will be like Mel today and peak at 30k, leading to asshurt from the last Sanallite.
>>16464563>thread about numbers>gets mad about numbersPottery.
>>16464520She is not better than any of the top 3 from V-Shojo, let alone be the most popular in the world
>>16464520damn, vtubing is dead then
>>16464599>gets mad about numbersI don't see numbers in your post
>>16464675Guess all the drama watchers got bored of her.
>>16464794>thread about numbers>don't post numbers that doesn't fit your narrativeActual pottery.
>>16464216I wonder why. Expected 35k. Marine alone can muster 25k + fun theme. Being hosted on Hachama channel is not that big a debuff to explain the result. Did they overlap?
>>16464866Anon, there was like, 100k+ total people watching during that time-period when I checked on holostats.YES THERE WERE OVERLAPS.
Reminder that >>16459152 korea has BTFO all vwhorejos and to post this every time one of their NTR fans come in to post their numbers while theyre having discord sex with sodapoppin
>>16464866Marine can easily get that and on the last haachama lewd art review she easily got about 18k.This was also a pretty anticipated collab since it was hyped up since September and then got canceled due to marine's break, could it be that haachama didn't shill it enough? I saw that a lot of other streams were happening too with high views but still, 26k is WAY too low but oh well, VOD is probably going to hit 300k if not more easily
>>16459247It would bring in more numbers and less drama than male ENs.
>kiara confirmed will collab with CannurOh boi...i don't know which numbers should I watch by then.The CCV ones or the posts per minute on this board
Jesus, if that overlap between PekoMiko playing the same franchise was not hurting each other enough, now Shuba will do her usual Yakuza too with Lui also streaming. Peaks will be low as fuck
>>16466242Oh god Lui is going to get murdered
>>16466158eh? no she didn'tshe asked about the possibility of homos or Dokomi collabs to her fanabse and how it is not much different to how she collabed with other males before
>>16460291their nijifans engage in the wrong tweets for some reason
>>16466092>KR>less drama
>>16466242and koyori will start one hour before peko-miko-shuba and iroha has a stream for 3 hours after they startedsuddently everyone wants this timeslot
>>16462759The brutal truth is that simply "being good/high effort" doesn't generate numbers. The real question is "why should I care?" And even then, you don't have super consistent results - for example, Ina animating her own MV for the first time for Tabi no Tochuu hit 1m in just over two weeks, while Kanata doing her own mixing for the first time in her cover of Ashura-chan didn't do shit for numbers (probably because the mix was kinda ass). Sometimes a great MV can carry a shit cover to big numbers (Kiara's Goodbye Sengen, fight me KFP) and other times it can't (Kiara/Gura Ai Kotoba III).I dunno, if looking at Gura's numbers should've taught us anything, it's that sometimes you just can't control the numbers.
>>16466092this>>16466507gooks make almost as much drama as mainland chinks
so whos hosting the council offcollab after the kimonos relay? theres no frame for it yet it seems
>>16460666> hires people who are two steps away from dying if they do any sort of physical activity.only nijis hire profissional dancers>>16460773>>16460893this is not hololive original choreographydo you body movements permissions repseven her original song uses a fanmade choreography hololive doesn't give a shit about it, the talents needs to step up and do their own stuff
>>16466760fauna
Japan confirmed 25k new cases today. Yesterday was 21k. Surely, Anykara are gonna stop their concerts, no? Because by the end of the week, it'll reach 40k.
>>1646701340k means gold, full steam ahead with maximum capacity!
>>1646726925k is already gold for them. Highest new cases was around 25k iirc back in August where they had an emergency lockdown. I mean, the government could just do nothing since everyone's vaccinated or some shit, but they can't just leave it at that while it spreads lol.
Wow Riku really is trying to accelerate and get everyone killed.
Okay, so since we're approaching dead hours soon. I kinda want to see if you guys would be interested in grading your oshi's based on the following:>Zatsu>Gaming>Singing>GFE>Meme/Clip-ability>EnduranceBasically treat it like you would stats on a 2k game. As for me. With S as the highest grade and F as trash tier. Mr. Koro>Zatsu - A>Gaming - B>Singing - C>GFE - F>Meme/Clip-ability - A>Endurance - S
>>16467877cringe
NijiEN needs to put out an all furry gen
Who would be stronger, numbers orientated buff content Gura or Korone?
>Sana is the first in the relaywhy would they do her like this?
>>16468641it is the debuts order
>>16468641So the viewership goes up instead of having people drop the relay midway
>>16468706Wouldn't it be better to have a good opener and closer though?
>>16468282Eh, I tried. Bored as fuck right now and just waiting for the relay
>>16467877Well, it's better than letting the thread either die or go to shitBut my oshi is haachama>Zatsu - A>Gaming - C+>Singing - B>GFE -??? >Meme/Clip-ability - S>Endurance - CI don't really know about the GFE because haachama always confuses me on whether she's actually doing the whole GFE thing or not...
>>16461301Unless you're Suisei. She can pull easy 10ks after the cull and even during this period with shadow corridor of all things Then you factor in her utawakus which are on another level of their own, and her 3D lives which are also on another level of their own
>>16468815A weak opener helps buying time for the viewers to slowly start tuning in the relay.A strong opener followed by a weak mid makes some of the fans of the first one to stop watching if they have other things to do than waiting 1h30
>>16468907Don't really watch Haachama but is her zatsu game really A? That's actually surprising to me. Some more I guess. Moona>Zatsu - C+>Gaming - B>Singing - S>GFE - B>Meme/Clip-ability - C+>Endurance - AMooners is more of a 2nd choice for me. I normally watch her when none of my JP or EN chuubas are streaming. Her Karaoke streams though are kind of high on my priority list, being trumped only by Event Streams or Karaoke's from my Oshi, Suisex, or Gura. Her GFE is surprisingly strong just based on all the goslings over at /moon/. Not really sure about her zatsu game since her accent definitely filters me a bit but otherwise it's pretty OK, I think.
>playing FPS blitzed as fuckkek, that's harder than I remembered
>>16469314A cat is fine too
I'm not feeling it today, lads. We probably won't even reach 20k.
I'm feeling it today, even Sana will reach 20k
>>16468907Sorry anon, Haachama is also my oshi but she couldn't zatsu if her life depended on it. Here are my scores>Zatsu - C>Gaming - B+ (she can do games like tetris and getting over it very expertly)>Singing - B>GFE - B>Meme/Clip-ability - S>Endurance - B If you think she's an A at zatsu you never listened to, for instance, Okayu zatsus (S tier), Ayame's (A+) or even Subaru's (A)
>>164591847k max ccv, and that's it? Does his audience consist of teen girls with no money or something?
>>16468907>>16469269>>16469531Zatsus are honestly like the mid-range game of vtubing. It doesn't really help in channel growth unless you use it to bait for out of context clips, but it does keep your core audience engaged. It's the reason why I shake my head when I see threads using Marine as bait saying that she's no better than the VSluts. Senchou can actually talk about normal shit without having to resort to drama or coomerbait. Another example is Vox who despite having a really good voice has a weak zatsu game.>>16469685Probably. Unless you're KR or JP, SEA audiences aren't exactly swimming in money. Even Ike only got that many SC's yesterday because one of his wavemate's baited the JP fujos.
>>16470007>Zatsus are honestly like the mid-range game of vtubingAnon, Ayame doesn't have anything else.
>>16462169What a retarded argument, as expected from this thread
>>16470245Ayame isn't my oshi but even I can tell that her GFE is fucking strong since she has her gachis on a fucking leash. Her singing isn't half bad either. I'd give it a B+ even.
>>16463113i thought they liked hololive? kek what is nijisanji doing in there
>>16466495I don't think this person is a nijifag but a holofag that began watching nijien. many such cases since nijien with those types that watch both holoen and nijien.
>>16470565Not really since it's happened in an identical industry before like WWE. Vince definitely has an agenda when it comes to making sure that none of his talents ever reach Austin, Hogan, or even Cena level popularity again. He probably got traumatized with all the BS that happened with Hogan and let's not forget that SCSA did walk out on him during the height of the Monday Night wars. He would've been fucked if not for the fact that by then roster had developed enough to cover for the loss. Not to mention the Rock emerging as a top tier star just in time too.
>>16469531>If you think she's an A at zatsu you never listened to, for instance, Okayu zatsus (S tier), Ayame's (A+) or even Subaru's (A)well it's true because I've never watched anyone other than haachama, she doesn't do full on zetsu streams but her SC readings are pretty good and I always enjoy listening to her spaces.however if you consider someone like subaru to be A then a might be a bit too high for haachama, so I guess I'd go for B rather than C 2bh.I can agree with your gaming score but I still think she's just an expert at specific games rather than a jack of all trades.
>>16470677To hide the fact that they're solely leeching off of Hololive.
>>16469531Reddit Duck is an F at zatsu. Why would you want to listen to her unless you enjoy her amd her Reddit fanbase?
>>16470857>rather than a jack of all trades.There is no "jack of all trades" on Hololive, even among Gamers. Closest would be Okayu, but she only plays what pleases her so we would never know how she would fare on (let's say) FPS.> I've never watched anyone other than haachamaIf you want to do your japanese reps Okayu zatsus are the best. She speaks slowly enough for even a N999 to get part of what she's saying and, unlike what people say, her regional accent is not that hard.Subaru zatsus are harder, she speaks too fast
>>16471077>Gamers>playing Gamesits literally just Nintendo autists
>>16471109Come on, Korone claim to fame is an ID Software game (Doom)
>>16471070You have to know Japanese first, moron.
>>16471176You need to know Reddit to enjoy Reddit Duck.
Amane Kanata - Tenshi no agape (12/27/2021): 494,307 views Tokoyami Towa - FACT (1/3/2022): 780,380 viewsTsunomaki Watame - My song (1/6/2022): 694,143 viewsKanata's orisong is stuck
9k waiting for Sana
>>16470565They are intentionally gimping their talents, bro. They even moved all the celebrations of their popular talents to the main channel but leave everyone else to their own devices.
>>16462316does this mean her stream doesn't count for the next day? doesn't that mean some streams will never get counted? What if a stream gets 300k but it falls in the deadzone?
>>16467395>muh fluI hate you shitters
>>16471077subaru zatsus used to be pretty good back when she had harder themes to em, but she dropped the idea for whatever reason
>>16471498Had to appeal to her Reddit fan base. Why so you think we call her Reddit Duck in this thread?
>>16471253My Song is slowly inching closer to Towa but it's going to take a long time to overtake at current pace
>>16470857who's the deebo of chuubas
>only 11k waiting Its over
>>16471569>we
>>16471602its 12k for sana, that more than i expected. It will get stronger for mumei and then kronii who all the myth have hyped to hell.
>>16471569Anon did you go too long without meds again and forgot that you are not in fact multiple people?
>>16471569>weThanks for the laugh, schizo
>14814 final waiting roomNot too badMight have a chance at 30k
Been away for a bit, CCVID hasn't been fixed outside of JP, right?
>>16460175>>16461669The weirdest thing about niji's engagement in twitter is that despite the mad engagement most tweet get, even for the most inane thing, niji actually rarely trendsOnly for the really huge events really
>>16471569>nosotros
Why are they unveiling costumes at this hours? It's too early for prime time and asians are still asleep.
>>16471797Doubt it, considering it takes about 10 minutes for EN to recover their waiting room, she might get 20-25kDefinitely more than Kiara with CCVID though>>16471863It has, we are just back to the 2020 cull
10k get
>>16471911EN management has always been dumb.
>>16471911its the weekend and they probably want to try get the collab in primetime, only relevant girl to asians is bae somewhat and she hits the morning for JP anyways.
>>16471911and too early for Sana and Bae, daf EN management
>>16471911Braindead management, but they probably want to set up the council collab in the end to be near primetime
>>16471911Seems to be a compromise between peoples timezones.
15k get
>>16471911Council collab during good NA hours
Are we breaking 20k today?
>Sana likely breaking 30kI think I may have to eat crow, I didn't think they would get passed Luxiem's debuts.
Looking likely to Sana hit 20k. Can Mumei and Kronii go up to like 60k then?
>>16472387its Hololive and their first outfits, how the fuck could they not beat Lux debuts.
>>1647252730 minutes and bad start time.
>there are retards who think kronii and mumei won't hit 50k
Gura would have been above 100k without the CCVID.Kronii will hit 80k today without CCVID or even more.
20k get
she started at the head, its over 23-24k tops
>>16472527>first outfitsNew year outfits don't do nearly as well as actual first outfits, especially for ENs.Myth's NY costume numbers, except for Gura ofc, were worse than HoloX/gen 4/gen 5's. (Comparing VOD views after 24 hrs because of CCVID)
>20k Sana won't even medal on her first outfit reveal.
>>16472932>>16472932no one cares about her head they want to see the massive tits. )
>>16472889No way Kronii's beating Mori's second outfit
How did this girl get in Hololive again?
>>16472940What did you expect? There are 3 medals and 5 holo members
>>16473015not him but myth girls have basically all said hers is the best one, so if myth fanbase tune in, it will be for Kronii. Im saying 70k.
>>16473039Ina's cronyism hire
>>16473041>SundayNo guarantee of that.
>>16473039Nepotism
>>16470816>>16471375bro I cant take any of you seriously when it's about nijisanji. even as a holofag i can see that I shouldn't trust something so biased
what numbers did the holox and myth members get with the cull?
>>16473039She can draw you know.
>>16473144half of hololive are cronyism hires
>>16473230Yeah but she fucking doesn't lol
>>16473312that's not my problem i only say she can.
>>16473301No, that requires them to be hired instead of other better candidates that applied for the same job
It's kinda weird how slow her CCV is updating during the reveal.It's like verifying 200 viewers at a time.We're not seeing the big spike we usually see when they start revealing the outfit.
>>16473312But she *can*, that's the important part.
>>16473301Yeah no shit, gamers got recommended though because Fubuki knew they'd be good hires, Ina must've known what a lazy useless cunt Sana would turn out to be
Kiara mogged
>>16473039Ina reco plus she can draw so Cover has easy access to a commission slave
>>16473230Good for her, but this is a streaming job
Council did massive damage to HoloEN's brand
Can't beat some random niji stream with outfit reveal. Graduate already
>>16473426CCV updating has seem sluggish for basically everything since the problem earlier this month, even with them saying they fixed it. Maybe it eventually reaches the same number it would have, but the verification process feels really dragged out now.
>>16473230If there is money involved like members streams. Unfortunately she is no Ina who does it for fun and business.
There's no way this is currently a 25k stream.
I'm not sure if this meme shit is going to get her more ccv or not
>>16473739At least she will feed the clipnigs tonight.
No reveal drop for SanaDoes this girl even have tourists?
>>16473901They have not revealed her hairstyle yet
>>16473505>>16473644Again, i'm only saying that she can draw.
>>16473994There is none. That was it.
Mel > Sana confirmed
Her CCV is tomfoolery.
>revealed>CCV doesn't plummet after revealyeah this is literal CCVid behavior. Extremely slow verification, but also slow loss
UI MAMA GOLD>UI MAMA GOLDUI MAMA GOLD>UI MAMA GOLD
This is the first time i saw an outfit reveal that didn't dip during a face reveal! SANERS I KNEEL
highest i caught was >25990
>>16473901memeshit obv views dropping now
>>16473206That's just an observation on our part though. Really, I can't think of any other reason why most of the talents special events like concerts get relegated to the main channel. You can't tell me that Kuzuha or Mito's stream wouldn't have performed equal to or better than if they were put on their individuals channel. I'm not saying that its a bad strategy though. Strengthening the brand actually makes it so that everyone benefits instead of just the people at the top. VShoujo is basically what happens when the brands perceived value is tied too much with the top talents.
>>16474063She just revealed it now, dumbass
>>16474102MIssing the huge spike for costume reveals that even CCVID had
So 26k, pretty meh without the CCVID that Myth and HoloX getsBut it's only Sana so no suprise
Sana>Zatsu - C>Gaming - B>Singing - D>GFE - D>Meme/Clip-ability - D>Endurance - BIf there's a category for overall visual design, then she gets an F there. Also an additional debuff of 'Accent' worth 3 debuff points
back to her dark skin and viewers drop immediately. Should she just stream with her white horse skin to incline number bros??
>>16474189vrabi sais its 26008
>>16474369cringe
>>16474323Alternatively just nobody gives a shit about her
>EN does another relay>gets flagged as spam viewers even harderit's all so tiresome
>>16474479we will see the next streams, the whole graph looks un-real
>>16474369Yeah. This is inline with my grade as well. There just isn't anything that stands out for her and her main skill (drawing) isn't something that she showcases so it's worthless.
>>16474369I actually think Anya is a better streamer than Sana, if I had to pick between them. I think everyone in Nijisanji EN except Finana is better than her too.
>>16474483>they won't complain for the whole year
>>16474369>Drawing- A+(theoretical)
>>16474613Is Finana that bad at streaming?
>>16474613>I actually think Anya is a better streamer than SanaThat's not even a context
>>16474613What's wrong with Finana?
>>16474613I wouldn't go that far. I'd say Elira is better and maybe Pomu. Everyone else is kinda eh as a streamer. Selen has APEX and weird gamer girl gfe going for her but that's kinda it.
Fauna is inclining way faster than Sana.Sana will gets mogged harder by her genmate than Kiara in myth
Fauna 20k get
>>16474688>>16474751>What's wrong with Finana?Sit down kids, this will take quite a while
>>16474369Sana needs to get her face fixed and non twintal related hairstyle
>>16474688She's really dull and offputting at the same time. People say she's like a twitch vtuber but Nina is an example of a talented twitch vtuber that made the transition. Finana would probably be streaming to 50 people if she was an indie.
>>16474885Everyone in her gen is vastly more popular than Sana. Even Kiara is significantly more popular. Sana is really the Aki/Mel of EN.
>>16474885This was pretty obvious just from glancing at their subs, CCVs, and VODs.Sana is Matsuri-tier without the streaming consistency either.In terms of fanbase crossover, Sana collabs by far the least out of everyone in Council (because she doesn't stream), so there's less spillover.
>>16474939>get her face fixedThe horse head fixed it
>>16475162Would be funny if one of Mumei's accessories was just a paper bag to go over her head with a smiley face on it.
>>16474967Finana has her coomerbait meme game going for her at least but even then she comes off more as a discount VShoujo because of it. I really don't know why she got selected since I have hard time believing that there wasn't at least a handful of people better than her. She doesn't even have a theoretical skill that she's good at like Sana. It makes me think that she's probably another Nepo hire or something.
>>16470718kind of off-topic to what you're saying but why do they sometimes devolve into hating holoen completely once they started watching nijien?
>25kCouncil is doing really fucking awful. Kronii won't hit 40k. This is looking like it will slip hard.
Fauna just beat Sana peak
Fauna passed Sana while still reviewing costumes, but no one really doubted it would happen.
>>16475425It's mostly just trolls.
>>16475434flop gen lmao
>>16475434You don't even believe what you're saying. Kronii ratios her genmates hard.
UI gold confirmed?
>>16475434retard lol
>>16475295She probably told them that she got far in the HoloEN interviews before being rejected so maybe that was enough to hire her.
Fauna>Zatsu - B>Gaming - B+>Singing - D>GFE - C>Meme/Clip-ability - C>Endurance - C+Pretty average skillset with a slight emphasis on her talking (zatsu and collabs chemistry in general) and gaming (ability/reactions) skills. Slight dock to Endurance for below average stream frequency. Not sure about this one however, just my general impression of her since I don't follow her that much to begin with. I do hear her surprisingly lack of doing GFE despite being green Lamy.
>>16475518I feel really justified in anti-ing them. Blunder of the centaury, the worst picks possible. I don't get how the same company can pick HoloX but also pick Council. >>16475569I believe it. The max market cap for council is way bellow 40k. Myth tourists are not even here for the most part.
How close are we getting to an Ina/Ame mogging?
>>16475425NTA but converts tend to be the most vocal in terms of voicing negative opinions toward something that they used to be aligned with. Take for example that chick from Roe v Wade. She turned into one of the most vocal advocates of the prolife movement years after the decision.
>>16475679I hope they're not that retarded.
>>16475434You are just using reverse psychology to try to make Council look good who are you even tricking lol
lol, looking at Mel vs Sana comparison right nowMel's peak had 3381 messages in 5 min span leading to her reveal.Sana averaged 7k messages, of which was also hit in the 5 minutes prior.Essentially, Sana's messages per min were over half of what Mel even got at her peak in a 5 minute span.
>>16475798No I'm not. It's a first outfit reveal, 50k is the fucking floor.
>>16475697She is more similar to Mio
>>16475510>>16475425It's not trolls they unironically start hating HoloEN once they start watching NijiEN, know a few people that ended up this way.
>>16475814no account = cant chat simple as
>>16475697Her GFE is probably more D than C since she actively tries to dissuade goslings. Singing definitely borders on SOVL tier too.
mumei will get bigger numbers than kronii, simply because she goes after
EN is obviously still getting culled pretty hard and I hate the disingenuous pieces of shit who deny that.
>>16475860Don't you dare
>>16475887They're just hipsters and hate popular things. They will hate Niji if Niji is the most popular vtubers group
>>16475887And those people come here in 4chan to look for a reason to hate on them and since there is no valid reason to hate ok them they use toxicity in 4chan as a reason to fuel their hate
>>16476063EN is getting culled way harder than jp since Dec 2020 it's not new.
fauna sucks at getting numbers, speedrunning to the outfit reveal faster than she had to :c why fauna
>>16476063Bro, I deny it because I don't care about HoloEN and only Gura can play with the big boys at the end of the day so the cull barely matters.
>>16475887But NijiENs like HoloENs. They even talk to Kiara and Mori on twitter pretty regularly.
>>16476322she already passed ina
>>16475697Fauna is abit of an odd duck because the things people expect out of her are not the things that she actually provides, while the things she provides (gamer skills) would appeal to a demographic that would be put of by her design and general impressions
>>16476057Like how Ame or Mori got bigger numbers than Gura?
>>16475697Except Mio sings really well and can consistently chart for her utawaku, she also has a +5 buff points for her renowned Scripts/Projects. Though I would give Fauna a slight edge for her gaming abilities/reactions.
>>16476305Well more like they know if they voice that opinion anywhere else, they'll get destroyed./vt/ gives them the anonymity to say stupid shit without consequences and find the other 100 people who agree with them.
>>16476383but she could get MOAR if she just went SLOWERRRRRR
>>16476444Meant for >>16475860
>>16476322She only has 7 minutes left
>33k during revealThis is disgraceful.
Again no spike in CCV gain rate when the reveal starts, the same 150-250 added to CCV every update as she was getting at the startCCVID is still here.
>>16475697her ASMR is approaching A tier, especially when she just tries to give positive encouragement.
>>16476630This is more than Ame and Ina kimono reveal she's on a higher level then them
>>16476670I just checked with leading streaming experts, that's just natural recline
35k denied
Just short of 35k, how am I supposed to get off to that...
>>16475860Fauna is literally EN Flare. She mostly does gaming content and has dedicated following, but mostly stays out of the radar. The only difference is that her ASMR is a bit more relatively popular than Flare's singing.
>>16476670Just recline bro
DAMMIT FAUNA YOU WERE THIS CLOSE OF 35K
>34,901Fuck! Fauna, why the fuck didn't you stall for another minute!
>cuck us from 35kSo either Mumei or Kronii will top or surpass Gura.
see i told you guys she shouldve gone slower, wouldve been 35k
>>16476670recline + flop gen
>>16476737Anon pls don´t be a retard.
>>16476670At this point Idk And I dont care to know anymore ,Youtube Ccv is fucked it suck for the talents but we atleast still get the Vods Views.
>>16476877What was Gura, 50k? Kronii will get that. Mumei maybe.
>>16476003Fauna is pretty much a massive blunder because she barely has skill in any area and can't ever get well paying gachi. She's a shit shill and won't puch merch. The fact that an "ASMR" streamer is the worst gachi baiter in the company speaks a lot.
>>16467877let me get this cringe shit out of the way before the thread diesKiara>Zatsu - A+>Gaming - C>Singing - B->GFE - B>Meme/Clip-ability - C+>Endurance - AKiara is suspiciously high-spec with these as the categories, her debuffs aren't really captured and the categories avoid special skills that other streamers have. Gave a - in singing for inconsistency and a + in meme for incredible soundposts.
>>16476670The graph reminds me of HoloX new years outfit streams
>>16476670The charts look identical to Myth's charts for their NY costume reveals actually, even Gura's.Maybe it's because this timeslot just sucks and there's no Japs rushing in during the costume reveal?https://holo.poi.cat/stream/nA_dh5agT78https://holo.poi.cat/stream/8McYGxUKxc0https://holo.poi.cat/stream/95yPJiiiZTs
Half-hour relay reveals don't have the huge sharp spikes seen in the hour long ones, check the Shishilamy relay, the Okakoro relay or last year's New Year relay. It's just more cope for Council's shit numbers
I hope than Kronii can top Gura.Gura was nerfed a lot by CCVID, if the best of council can not top in that condition they should all graduate
>>16476929Im sorry...I forgot about the cull for a minute.
IRyS>Zatsu - B->Gaming - C+>Singing - A>GFE - B->Meme/Clip-ability - C>Endurance - BHer speaking voice is a slight buff, design is polarizing and a debuff, good in collabs, very low creativity, and low knowledge of western memes but still manages to have clippable moments.
>>16476670you get the ccv that youtube picks for you, kek
HoloEN - New Year's outfit >Gura 50,982>Mori 38,821Fauna 34,918>Ame 32,958>Ina 31,352Sana 25,990 >Kiara 21,66
>>16476877>SurpassHow about we culling the council too
>>16476063If they still does, then YT are now also culling their views and likes metrics.Unlikely imho, it's more likely that the reclined or the Algos aren't favoring them as much as they used to. If anyone cares, they can @ TeamYoutube and whine about it.
>>16477080Well no shit, that was 2 days before CCVID-21 was fixed.
>>16477256Their views and likes are still the same but their ccv gains have been slower
>>16477080ENs also rush in right as reveals start, just look at literally any other EN outfit reveal pre-CCVID era.And Myth NY outfits where at the peak of CCVID culling.
36k waiting lol
Council don't seem likely to complain but maybe Mori and Kiara will raise a stink for them.
HOLY SHIT THIS WAITING ROOM I KNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL
>>16477003Her Zatsu definitely isn't A+ just because of her voice and her tendency to mood break by pitying herself. B+ at most. Everything else I agreee with.
lol
>>16476374NijiEN thread gets pissed whenever the girls interact with a HoloEN member in any manner.They're pretty nuts over there.
>>16477466>>16477499>>16477515Based Kronii with the numbers.
titsclock waiting room going nuts
we are gonna have a waiting room peak lol
Er is that a 36,699 waiting room I see or do I need to go back to specsavers
>>16477467>at the peak of CCVID culling.For JPIt hadn't hit EN at that point.
40k waiting for Kronii
40k
>>16477158With cullingFauna 17,409SANA 12,445
40k waiting room.She will mogged council pretty hard like always
>>16477533i mean they blam Hlgg eveytime their thread is ass, which has been happening more lately after the males debut.
What was Gura's waiting room?
>>16477591>Jan 8>hadn't hit ENsTrolling is supposed to be subtle.
>>16477627Council is 5 Kroniis
3 mins lost already, I'm genuinely worried Kronii might not get her waiting room back at this rate.
>>16477003>Zatsu A+More like a B+ at best, otherwise the grade would have to scale up to SSS++ tiers for members like Marine, Okayu, and Shion
40.5k in the waiting room, wonder if she'll recover it in 25 minutes
can she beat it?
>>16477605>>16477627That's what La+ hard and her debut was only 30 minutes. I don't think 100k is impossible.
>>16477591It had hit EN by new years day retard. NY outfits where on Jan 8, at some of the highest culled points
40k waiting room down to 18kyeah naturally
ClockGirl beating 40k on the waiting room
wouldn't it be funny if the stream doesn't catch up to the waiting room in time
40k>20k
Culled to 20k
>>16477627With some of the holos keep hyping up her outfit, i'll be more surprised if it she doesn't get 100k at least
>>16477634That's some next level cope there.Can't even admit they make their own thread shitty.
>>16477756No?? I'm pretty sure Laplus waiting room was way higher than that
>>16477751If she can recover in time then yes absolutely, but that's a big if
>>16477670
>>16467877How the fuck is mister Koro has higher zatsu than gaming?
>>16477121I'd up her zatsu to B+ and Meme/Clip-ability to B as well. She's definitely one of the better EN's and if her live2D wasn't so fucking bad (Fuck redjuice) her GFE and Meme/Clip-ability would be 1 to 2 tiers above your current grade.
These are so boring compared to Myth's, and Myth wasn't exactly pulling maximum la creadividad moves
It won't even hit 50. Will Councilfags/HoloXantis finally admit that HoloEN2 is a massive failure in every capacity.
>>16477857pretty similar
>>16477634>>16477848Some faggot came here blaming /#/ for "raiding" their thread so...
Watching this tick up 100 at a time is driving me crazy. It's obviously bullshit.
>>16477995Complain about it in the sticky
>>16477995It's their very first outfit reveal, anon. Guve them a slack.
>>16477857THE HARDCAP
>>16477857The Shork is just too powerful.
>>16478028Kronii peaked 40.7k for me, that's almost a 20% difference
>>16477874Mr. Koro isn't really good at games. She's probably slightly above average if we're being generous. She just has an insane level of endurance (S) and will that she can keep bashing through any wall until it ultimately gives out.
>>16477703>>16477510You guys are insane. From the random tangents, insider info, superchat farming, rrat killing + rrat making and just length her zatsu game is A+. Its a running joke that her stream starts when she stops playing whatever game.
10 mins in, still 10k away from waiting room.CCV is crawling up.Really does feel like CCVID.
>N I K E D>I>K>E>D
wohooo, clock hag korean gachis be at the top of the sc game
>>16477997You already moved the goalpost? Kek
>>16478289They’re beating Myth numbers so it’s definitely NOT CCVid
>>16477604Kiara didn't get hit by the cull she was just that shit
>>16478289Her waiting room was artificially higher because of the delay though.
>>16478329kronii's cull/recover is actually worse than gura on ccvid>>16477857
Councilbros, a-are we going to make it?
>>16478387still it shouldnt take that long to recover why te waiting room recover is worse with delays makes no sense.
>>16478329Yea, that's fucked. Is jumping between streams triggering the AI?
If either of this is true, then council (or EN Viewers) probably still have ccvid>Kronii can't recover her waiting room within 20 minutes>Peak CCV doesn't pass 50k
>>16478289Feels like we have the lite version of it now. The Omicron variant, if you will.
I hope at least one of the council members try something creative with the outfit reveal like what ame did
>>16467877Marine>Zatsudan Arelatively unguarded/open in terms of stuff she's willing to talk about which helps>Gaming D occasionally does something interesting like her Kirby 64 / Hey you Pikachu RTAs or her competitions with Korone but on average her gaming streams aren't up to her usual quality in terms of entertainment. In terms of skill she's okay at bullet hells and might be the best at Smash ult in hololive, which unfortunately isn't saying much. Consecutive 3rd places in the MK tourney too. Otherwise garbage levels of skill across the board.>Singing Dsmall repetoire and narrow vocal range. Anime otaku friendly setlists. Really struggles to stay on pitch, going heavily sharp or flat is a common occurrence. Does a great yonayonayona and Ai wo Torimodose. Probably won't sing much anymore anyway since her throat is fucked.>GFE A-She pretty strongly tries to optimise for this. Won't collab with guys, and deliberately cultivates and presents an image of herself as having dansei-muke knowledge and interests to seem cool and attractive to prospective gachikois. Welcomes coomer attention.>Kikaku/Variety B+Usually great concepts, mostly solo though. Unfortunately not a very high volume of them. Amazingly high value participant in others' kikaku. Good on the fly entertainer sense.>Drawing ASure her manga in Manga Time Kirara Max! got canned, but she's still pro level. Pretty cool how she can produce high quality shit with garbage tools like the ARK signboards. Does a good zatsu while drawing too.
>>16478068Always gotta blame someone else, typical nijinigger behavior.
>>16478553you are crafting your numbers for validation
>>16477703A- at the least. She's usually thought of as the better, if not, best zatsu in EN. Maybe not in the top in hololive. But B and below is still too low.
>Council won't even gold on their outfit reveal dayUi has this.
>>16478387Massively suppressed CCV due to delayed waiting rooms is a hallmark of ccvid.
Secret ace Mumei tasukete
>>16477510>>16477703On busy days I skip the entire gaming portion of the vod and just listen to the tangent part, the only thing holding back that grade is lack of dedicated zatsu.
>>16478370Retard, CCVid came in stages culling more and more. Beating Myth just means they're at a lower stage
>>16474266Aren't the concerts and events put in the main channel when anycolor staff organized them and in their own channels when they organize it by themselves? Like NJU which is on Mikoto's channel because she organizes it
>>16478128Do you remember Myth first reveal?Are you gonna tell me their first reveal was as boring as these one.
>>16478744Council simply isn’t that popular, cope
who is in charge to decide the time of the relays? the EN's have been on dogshit timezones where literally only Ina streams
>>16478690She really is the secret ace but sadly CCVID will spread along the relay and each cull should get worse.
>>16478289I'm curious if channel location affect how CCV grow live?
Aside from pathetic numbers from these council outfit stream, I'm here still wondering why the SC game is so weak even for kronii...I remember she's the one with the most gachis of them all
Is a miracle. Global are infested with anti myth and enschizo refusing to accept myth cullingcand here is peaceful.
>>16479024SC only comes after te reveal and is only a few minutes since they are capped in time.
>>16478863This isn't about their popularity, this is about visibly struggling to regain waiting room numbers, a CCVid staple
She's not gonna make itAlso>Kronii in charge of preparing things beforehand
>Close to 40kI doubt we get 50k...because she will definetely show her kimono quickly
Its utterly undeniable, its CCVID mid stages, its the same Nike graph.
>>16479077Well not really...kiara and mori or even the JP get way more than this before the reveal
>>16475425There are many who watch holoen/nijien but as you say, theres also those who stopped watching holoen or hololive in its entirety after nijien. I can only talk about myself but I watched hololive for years and since nijien I pretty much watch mostly them and nijisanji in general because their style and other characteristics can't be found in hololive. it's just an appeal that niji has and holo doesn't, and vice-versa.
almost 20 minutes, still hasn't recovered waiting room ccv. Fuck Susan again.
Is nobody in Council really gonna pull a Nene and do a random ass poll during the reveal?
>>16479302kiara and mori are top of EN
>>16479252It doesn't matter if she waits until 5:29 EST to show it, that counter ain't gonna tick up fast enough.
>>16479078Can't bullshit numberfags that have been through the ccvid arc and is pretty easy to ignore and spot samefagging/shitposting here so is much easier to bait outsiders.
>>16478863retard
SUSAN WHY? WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT?
Mumei will be the 50k
>>16477857Totally normal numbers. No culling here.
>>16479078It has been bad for a week or so but especially today. Various targets but pretty clearly the same circle shitting up the place. A big event just makes it worse.
>>16479371And kronii was suppose to be top of council so..
40k get
>>16479397Bae will be the 50k. Screencap this.
Fuck me, even with outfit reveal council might not get gold today.. >Ui 3D>CR Cup
>>16479315move out of San Francisco
>>16479289>>16479255So it took the AI a week to flag accounts again? JP seems to be fine still, though, so GL fighting that with just ENs
40K, TO THE SKY KRONII
Raising now, waiting room beat in 20 minutes, similar to Gura (so with CCVID).
>no council will beat debuffed guraholy fuck lmao
>Still growingClock, I beg youLet your autism stall the reveal for at leats 45k
>>16479589Mel also took ages to recover her waiting room
is holoEN just lame or i just dont like western streamers? they're missing the oomph factor JPs have
>>16479476Kronii made a bunch of cash early doing VA requests, she completely stopped that and still makes decent SCs but nowhere near the burst at her debut. She doesn't have nearly the amount of paypigs as Mori and Kiara.
>>16479682Wrong thread, retard.
>>16479559Today is CR Cup?
>>16479787yes
>>16479666Wasn't Pekora overlapping her the whole time?
I'm willing to bed YT didn't "fix" the false positive flagged viewer verification issue, they just reversed some accounts that had been flagged. That's it. Everything that caused CCVID is still present and will happen again.
So going by waiting room numbers, Gura should have gotten at least 150k, and Kronii should be about 135k right? So Kronii should be about what Mori got for her first costume.
>Kronii sounds just like my sisterI can't fap to that ... ;-(
>>16479721how the mighty has fallen
btw, Mel could learn the "kronii stalling technique", she inclined some 6k on the stalling alone
>>16479759there's no good thread in /vt/ to ask this question since this board loves western english streamers
>45kCOME ON CLOCKDO NOT LET YOUR AUTISM TAKE YOU OVER
>>16479830Well, why are everyone talking about 3D Ui as gold absolutely
>>16479860We don't really know the scale of neo-ccvid yet. I'm not sure Kronii would get 135k at 5 Pm for a 30 minute stream, even without all this bullshit. Maybe 70-80k.
>>16478271She better at playing games than most female Vtubers out there and she's by far one of the best at streaming them. Games are her bread and butter and she gets very good numbers for them. Obviously, not quite Pekora, Miko or Gura level, so not an S, but definitely deserving of an A.
So does white snake is a symbol of kronii or something? Considering usually the pattern on the outfit symbolize their them such as kiara with phoenix
>>16479682JP VTubers have a special magic that you can't find in VTubers that you actually understand.
SHE'S GOING TO PASS GURAI CAN FEEL IT
Based last cowboys holding down the twitter front
>>16478600>Marine>Zatsudan AHow is it not an S? Like literally, who is better than her?
>>16480001Then fuck off and accept that no one shares your opinion.
OH FUCK!
>>16480101It's ouroboros, google it.
kronii with the long stall, will she make it?
HER BOOBS ARE GONE
>>16480001May I introduce you to /hlg/? Fuck off and stay there
>48KKronii...your autism
>>16480318Good. Big tits are disgusting.
NOOOO TOO EARLYSHE ALMOST BROKE 50K
>>16480318>HER BOOBS ARE GONEAnon, first time with Kimono wrapping?
48kEven with Gura nerfed a lot they can't beat her.Council is a failure
>Chumbuds pride saved by Kroni's autism
There's something off about kronii kimono outfit..It's like the outfit too big or the design is kinda overdid it..
>>16480653Hold on! There's still Moomers!
Sing a song before the reveal, you dingus
>>16480653Gura is massively popular and has multiple times their subs. I don't get why this is a surprise.
>>16480669>ENTER
48k but the real worry is the possibility of ccvid coming back
>>16480734CCVID has her and Myth culled a lot. So this was a chance for council to shine for once...
>>16480653Even Gura nerfed to less than 1/3 her real numbers is too powerful for Council. What a flop generation.
>>16480812>people actually thought Google wasn't going to try and "refine" the same changes they made in December rather than just scrapping the filtering completely
Could have milked it to 50k if she had more time
>delayed Mumei by 3 minutesThis will fuck the numbers for sure, fucking antinumber generation
Why Council's graph looks different compared to Mel's?
48k on buffed outfit reveals, Council is an absolute failure
So this just confirmed that ccvid is still with en right? It take kronii like 20 minutes to recover her waiting room number, if that is not ccvid then I call this bs.
See this what happens when kiara go and overhype the outfit. It gone and put the viewers with high expectation for kronii outfit
I don't think it's ccvid, it feels more like an issue with user verification that takes longer for en than Japanese viewers. Ccvid had extremely slow, flat lines, which isn't what's happening here
>>16480974She did milk to the hardest of the time constraints. Even the warden of time couldn't have stretched it any longer
HoloEN - New Year's outfit >Gura 50,982Kronii 48,121>Mori 38,821Fauna 34,918>Ame 32,958>Ina 31,352Sana 25,990 >Kiara 21,66
>>16480812It is back. Its undeniable with it taking 20 minutes for her to even reach waiting room numbers and barely going 8k above it on a first outfit.
>>16480898Yeah but even with CCVid, Gura is still the most popular vtuber by like, a mile. Her drawing so many views on an event and her kouhai failing to match that, both in HoloX and Council, should not be some sort of "dear lord how could this happen".
>>16480996No direct link in the video description either.
>>16480996MOOMERS WHY
G-guys, some anon in previous thread said that Mumei is a "Gura killer". This won't kill Mumei's numbers, right?
>>16480898There are signs of CCVID coming back here, though. Kronii taking 15' to break her waiting room number is pretty concerning
>>16480996>Mumei now has less time to hit good numbersThe fucking clock
>Mumei 19k startShe's free from waiting room cull at least
Based on waiting room Mumei isn't catching up to Kronii
>>16481120Anon..I'm sorry
>>16481092Mumei delaying her streams by a few minutes is a regular occurrence.
>Already surpassed her waiting roomAs much as this look good...Mumei is more autistic than Kronii unless she pulls a Lex Luthor.
Moomei got her waiting room back already
>Council can't beat myth even without being culledLoving every laugh.
>Momer already got her waiting number recoveredlooks like not all are affected by it.
>>16481042No one watches Kiara it wouldn't effect anything.
It's not as bad as Gura's but still seems to be affected by CCVID.
>>16481315Autism is her power, though.
>>16481365What's the evidence that Myth is the only generation being culled?Makes no sense for YT to target one vtubing generation with a total of like, 5m subs. When there are thousands of content creators with more subs.
>suprassed thw waiting roommmmthw waiting room delay might be fucking for people or maybe big waiting rooms are fucking up for EN. Weird ass beavior
>>16481383>>16481315I think that might just be the exodus of Kronii's viewers
>>16481279Of course she won't.You never watched Council before if you think Mumei can top or even be close to Kronii
How does Council compares with gen 4 and gen 5 NYE outfits? since comparing with gen 6 is a crapshoot with the massive cull
>>16480208she's been running out of topics lately to be fair, she's already mined through most of her life history anecdotes and otaku knowledge so she's on the seat of her pants nowthink about it, she hasn't done a pure, no-theme zatsudan in like 11 months because she can't spin gold out of thin air anymore
whats with the retards posting here right now
>Already close to 30kLex...please!
>>16481434Stop replying to Councilschizo ffsHow new are you?
HOLY SHIT NO WAY BAE GETS THE HIGHEST CCV IN COUNCIL. RRRRRAAAAAAAATTTT
Here is to give you anons some perspectivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4 328M views for no other reason than being an obscure meme song
>these numbersKronii won't even get bronze. Hal for gold and Ui for silver.
>>16481494Kronii didn't beat Gura so chumpedos are back in egoposting...since they can egopost on jp hours.
>>16481414So it really isn't fixed yet. Did they just roll back a huge chunk of the affected accounts to reduce the spread?
>>16481547She won't Kronii will be the highest.
>>16481494>Right nowThis thread is inhabited by 3-4 asian peasant rabble phenotypes who post the same shit eight hours a day.
Kronii took so long to clear the waiting room because it was higher than it should've been from starting 3 minutes late and because she was boring as shit when she started, Mumei cleared it immediately so stop cullcoping already Councilfags
Mumei is immunized
>30k getLEX...PLEASE! PLEASE!
>>16481586Yeah that's totally from the song and not the animation.
>>16481414I don't understand that sudden small jump on the graph
Great, now whenever someone's oshi doesn't do as well as they'd hoped everyone is going to claim there's been a new cull that somehow affects only them
>>16481678I don't think so, Kronii finished kinda late so people took longer to move out to Mumei.
10 minutes mark, 34.7k. Kronii had 35k
>>16481850Chumbuds did that on the didney minecraft collab.
She's already revealing with 20 minutes left. she's ngmi!
>>16481850Are we seriously back to looking at identical patterns to CCVid and calling anons who identify them copers?
someone spoonfed me how Council beating Myth culled numbers is an achievement
>already moving to the outfit revealguess kronii will have the highest number
>>16481850I mean, current cull is self evident.
>>16481850A lot of streams al over in the last day or two have felt weirdly low. Nothing to do with anyone specific. Mel certainly did this morning.
>>16481605Huh? Gura was in CCVIDNot fair comparison in the first place
>>16481850Great isnt it? Numberfagging is truly dead
>>16481678you are retarded if you think everyone should climb again after being verified a stream before, in a twitch raid, if you send your viewers, they translate almost completely in less than a minute
>>16481850People have been saying ENs/IDs where still fucked since the day after the "fix" happened and their numbers still didnt pass basic sanity checks compared to streams from Nov.
stop replying to the schizo, just report
>>16481981>>16481981Yes, because JPs are the only ones that EVER get culled.-Last Samurai
>>16481850Ignore cullfags
>>16481989There's like 5 anons in this thread that actually care about Myth vs Council
>Going fastIs over
>>16482120Ina and Ame are still getting their normal viewer average on game streams.
MUMEI STOP THAT'S TOO FAST AAAAAAAAA
moomers... your numbers...
>revealing before the 15 minute markStop blaming culls
>Sorry MumeiCucksTHIS ONE DOESN'T SLIP!
>>16482175It's literally one person. Probably the same person that spams Gura/Pekora on cooldown. Real people don't obsessively care about that sort of thing.
she might drag it out toward the end...
Is she really doing it under 15 min?
>>16482268I believe the number is usually normal for normal streams. Probably Youtube can't handle sudden grow of viewers
>40k getalsowhy is this so good? wtf.
>>16482175 "people" (read as faggots) in this thread care about pitting wings of Hololive against themselves because every other major group can barely hang with their topmost members most days - it's inevitable that shitposters will then attempt to consume the co-workers because there's nowhere else to aim
>>16482521yes, peak at 42k
Topped at 41k
>already doneFuck the love of christ just graduate the entire gen.
>>16482443lollmao
Maybe bae will get more than 50K
>>16482575She’s a prodigy, you see.
Why did you people call her a Gura killer? Why did you curse her so?
why so fast mooms
>>16482521Maybe her announcement song will release soon
PLEASE TELL ME SHE WON'T END IT TOO EARLY AND KILL THE FUNNEL!
>>16482706fuck...
>>16482713read that out loud to yourself
HoloEN - New Year's outfit >Gura 50,982Kronii 48,121Mumei 41,789>Mori 38,821Fauna 34,918>Ame 32,958>Ina 31,352Sana 25,990 >Kiara 21,66
>>16482767its less about her being the gura killer and more about the doxx spreading
*BANG BANG*>CAM ON BAE*BANG BANG*>SCOR SOM FACKIN CCV*BANG BANG*
>>16482521She is an enigma. Can do great numbers but somehow she nerf herself. Reminds me of Risu but less worse
>only drop 2k after face revealThis has been around the same for all the EN girls so far and is classic CCVID.Even Mel with only a 29k peak dropped 7k in 3 minutes last night.
>all this samefaggingis the schizo literally retarded?
Is the shark just too strong?Even when she was crippled, she's still untouchable
>>16483025Because there were other streams
At least she will shill her song...r-right?
>>16483050>Is the shark just too strong?Always has been
>mumei new year outfit
>>16483025Mel's face reveal was a couple of minutes before a dozen streams started, while now there's nothing else to watch and won't be until the next outfit
>>16483141thats for the collab most likely
>>16482935The dox is old news already. Any damage it could have done has already occurred. Also, the dox is the reason why people started calling her the Gura killer.
>>16483131There's months of examples of huge drops right after face reveals even when there were no competing streams.Holomems tell people to not leave right after face reveals now because they have accessories to show and it still doesn't help much.
>>16483025yeah, no, only trolls aren't willing to admit the CCVID isn't in effect.It is much more mild compared to what was affecting the JP side, but it's still hitting EN and ID visibly. Hard to tell sometimes because they were already more affected by the initial 2020 cull too.
lets hope that bae does a poll somehow
>>16483345Mumei already lost 7k
>>16483388>only trolls aren't willing to admit the CCVID isn't in effect.should be >the CCVID is still in effect.too many negatives
>>16483388>everyone who disagrees with me is a troll!Yeah fuck off, I'll happily debate in good faith with people who think the cull is somehow still around just around for EN but you can go fuck yourself
>EN recline>Second gen failure >I-it's CCVID
>>16462141>HAL above Chronoir>Chronoir is THE ONLY Niji above HinanoS-sugoi
>>16483629It's not just for EN though, it's visibly hitting Indos as well
wow, i wasn't expected mumei sc game is so weak at the moment for the stream. might not even beat fauna sc at this point
>>16482618>If Kuzuha has a good stream:Kuzuha vs Pekora/Gura>If Kenmochi has a good stream:Kenmochi vs Pekora/Gura>If neither of them stream/get good numbers:Pekora vs Gura or HoloJP vs HoloEN>If Pekora isn't streaming:Gura vs Council>If Gen 5 is mentioned:Gen 5 vs everyone
shilling her song!
>>16483025There's always a huge drop after face reveal retard.That's what people want to see, they leave after they saw it
>>16483141She did it!
>>16483741Even shitposting has meta too...
>>16483638Then explain why did it take kronii over 20 minutes to recover her waiting room.
>>16483629schizochama you aint fooling nobody
>>16483716the 30 minute reveals have all been pretty bad SC-wise, right? Myth and HoloX's were pretty underwhelming too.
>>16483851dont respond to him
How long for Mumei's and Kronii's singles to hit 1 million? 6 months?
>>16482268The last time Ame played a game was 5 days ago, and it was both immediately after the "fix" and its the only non-member stream since then.Ina's most recent minecraft peaked at 11k, which is 30% lower than her usual solo minecraft peak.
Why is she so bar at promoting her own stuff?
>>16483802>everyone else understands the post>only 1 retard can't readRead it again.Actually I'm worried you're still too stupid to get it so I'll spell it out to you.Everyone's costumes with CCVID drops much less than costumes without CCVID.That's the weird thing.
>>16483913Less than a month. They're both popular.
>>16483908Myth yes, holoX/Nene absolutely not
>>16483851she was late
>>16483629Then debate. Post some fucking numbers instead of your die hard feelings.From the first day, we didn't see nearly the same increase for EN streamers as for JP after the CCVID was "fixed".Admittedly we knew EN was culled harder since before But all you people do despite seeing numbers and charts like this >>16478329 is disagree with no proof to back up your claims.
>>16483908HoloX was pretty damn good tho?
>>16483908nah, myth sc is doing great with mori and kiara while holox with orca and samurai
>>16483908>HoloX's>bad SC
35k waiting for baestarting on time.
>32,192 waitingfor Baelz
>>16484015I'm not surprised there's something weird in viewers verification. Maybe they can't handle sudden big jump of numbers
>>16483741It's all the same guy.
>>16484147How does that work?She was late and accrued 40k people waiting her in 3 minutes.How does that take youtube 20 mins to validate those viewers and only 8k joined after those 40k were there from the start?Pekora's 3D live had her 60k waiting room validated in a few minutes.
bae waiting room
>>16484147That doesn’t explain shit you dumbass. It usually only take stream a few minute to recover their waiting room, not fucking 20 minutes.
>>16483629The Last Samurai recoils in horror at facts!!! Japan is used to winning on technicalities anyway. They are only beating EN due to the cull just like they only beat the Mongols due to storms at sea.
>>164839132 weeks
>>16484296technically one minute late
>>16484359
>>16484303The frustrating thing is the inconsistency.Pekora's 3D live was just a few days ago and viewer verification was lightning fast.
>>16484345youtube is retarded
finally baelz to the rescue with something different for outfit reveal stream
>>16484444>>16484053Setting yourselves up for grudge posting.
>>16484556they either reimplemented it, or just cleared all the "suspicious/bot" flagged accounts and called it fixed, and they are now getting reflagged meaning they didnt actually fix it.
>>16484763Well, better fire up the polls and get JP to do another relay just to be sure.
>>16484556Channel location affect verification? Japanese server is faster to verify JP viewers than EN viewers?
>>16484624I don't really care, that's just my guess based on how fast EN music stuff usually moves and the relative popularity of those two. It sure as shit isn't gonna be 6 months tho.
damn, look at the those korean sc...these koreans sure love bae and kronii huh?
>>16484941With gen 3 they need to add another Korean besides Kronii.
30k get
>>16484851thats an excuse you'd expect of a small indie company who doesn't have different global servers to better distribute all those verifications around
>>16484851that is a possibility but is impossible to test wihtout some of the girls trying it since only they have the userbase big enough to try.
>>16484177>we didn't see nearly the same increase for EN streamers as for JP after the CCVID was "fixed"Because they didn't get culled as hard in the first place, it's not hard to understand>disagree with no proof to back up your claimsThere no point trying to prove anything when all you guys post is "this graph looks weird!" while completely ignoring the context of why it's weird, in this case because Kronii had an overinflated waiting room from starting her stream late.For what it's worth I don't deny that EN is culled harder than JP but that's from the 2020 cull and that's how the situation has been for over a year, it's not from the nonsense that happened this New Year.
NIKED
>>16482898Myth was under CCVID bruh
35k wiating room30k in 7minstill slow but probably reaching it in 10min
>>16484851 (me) And that's maybe the reason of Mysta isn't affected so much because most of his viewers from JP and his channel is JP channel
>>16485160So? It's literally just a list of what they got.
If YT implements raids will twitch numbers be accepted here again
Why council is so unpopular compare to myth and holox
>>16485211nope, 32k
>>16485388yeah still slow
>>16485328https://youtu.be/-zC_NTdVd6oNo.
>>16485265This has always been the case for HoloEN tooThat's why Gura's ending VOD is always higher than Pekora
>>16485328Twitch has more problems than just raids. But raids will make box pushing companies like Niji/Holo really unreliable with peak CCV. Might have to switch to average even though that fucks SC readers pretty hard.
>>16485354Because they're boring streamers with bad designs and even worse schedules, or if you listen to the globalfags in here it's all a big conspiracy and they're actually getting 3 times what it says they are
trending numbers
>>16485328Unless Twitch remove passive viewers from numbers, it's a big no
>>16485328Feels like Youtube can't implement anything without running the risk of completely destroying their entire platform. Anything new is probably like 2 years in the future rather than soon, if it ever happens.
>>16485471just shitpost about ccvs to your hearts content in the kiddy shit filled sand box and then the view count at the end of the month tells you who is actually winning.
>>16484851It doesn't make any difference because Petra doesn't have JP channel location and is one of the worst Niji ENs
14 min to reach waiting room.
>Bae baiting gachisThis is good. More SCs. Council has literally stealing from Cover by being like they were before.
SC (yen)La+ 876,733Lui 887,095Koyori 1,499,854Chloe 3,195,639Iroha 1,513,994Nene 2,750,513Kiara 597,359Ina 181,648Gura 223,183Ame 217,609Calli 610,926Mel 360,054Sana 203,978Fauna 250,155Kronii 475,831Mumei 210,185Bae 106,799 (ongoing)
>>16485667What view count?
>>16485788ENbros... why are we so poor...
>>16485686how do you know here channel loc?
>>16485686Isn't she JP just like Anya?
>>16485788>Sana 203,978>Fauna 250,155>Kronii 475,831>Mumei 210,185>Bae 106,799 (ongoing)That's so pathetic it hurts.
>>16485788Ina Ina Ina....
>>16485471This threads obsession with "fair" CCV is just as retarded as Youtube's obsession with culling "spam viewers". Why the fuck Ayame's two stream a month are excluded from monthly average ranks? Why the fuck are raids not allowed, but funneling is? This shit is arbitrary and it doesn't give you any better results than if you just took the numbers as is.
>>16485354THEYDONT FUCKING STREAM(Council also does not post shorts or prerecorded content on days they're not streaming)
>>16485925Channel views for the month. We could do it weekly but I haven't seen any anons bother to do it that often.
>>16485788>ina's scjesas
>>16485788>>16485979>the two best performing ENs are the ones with the largest JP fanbasesJust accept that this is one of those things that actually IS a cultural difference. Global audiences will never embrace throwing thousands of dollars at virtual anime girls like Japan and its lonely salarymen have.
>>16486091CCV is the most important thing since they are streamers. Sponsorships don't lie, who do people go for?
>>16485788>Inayeah, that's deserved
>>16486091>numberfagging without contextPure retardation. Never numberfag again.
>>16485686Petra just isn't popular, I don't think anyone's every bothered seeing how quickly her waiting room is verified, and it's such a small number anyway it's hard to really tell.
>>16485956>>16485963https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgA2jKRkqpY_8eysPUs8sjw/aboutOn the about page usually has the channel location but Petra doesn't have it, she also doesn't appear on charts sorted by Japan on Playboard. Selen is the same but every other Niji EN is Japan
>>16486091Because numberfags (IE: the people collecting data in this godforsaken thread and posting it) are a minority, and numberniggers are the main posters.If you ad more than 1-2 factors to a stream's performance, a numbernigger will spazz out and refuse to process that much data, and start screaming COPE. This is why this thread keeps returning to CCV numberfagging despite Susan fucking with it before their very eyes MULTIPLE TIMEs, to the point where its about as accurate as one of Sana's holoscope readings.
40k for rat
Topped at 40k
>40k getwell timed
40k at the last monent!
>>16486183Maybe for certain bottom feeding twitch spamming companies but most eastern sponsors look at subs/views. I remember that one girl who did adbuys on her reallly shitty vtuber channel amassed a very high sub count for the time period and finessed herself onto japanese television.
3 NEW OUTFITS STILL THE QUEEN BABY!!!
>>16486183Anon even Fucking Sana gets sponsorships.
>>16486121What would that tell you other than people with a lot of old music videos racking up views would be on the top? By that metric Mori is the top streamer in EN.
>>16486183> Sponsorships don't lie, who do people go for?Whoever has the most subs/followers lol
HoloEN - New Year's outfit >Gura 50,982Kronii 48,121Mumei 41,789Baelz 40,367>Mori 38,821Fauna 34,918>Ame 32,958>Ina 31,352Sana 25,990 >Kiara 21,66
>>16486366>ccv is about as accurate as one of Sana's holoscope readingskekd
>>16485667Lol, can't do that because Mori and Suislut are shitting the viewcount with their song spams
>>16486558chicken...
>Bae boobs got buffed>Kronii boobs got straight up cancelledwhat
>>16486183explain this thenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GUCwTzmUfk
>>16486416Japan sponsors are a drop in the bucket. Hololive gets good CCV, that's why the collabs and sponsorships have increased. Subs did nothing, the big sub push was a year ago.
wow, rat you sure have a lot gachis there. Your sc is pilling up as i typed
are Japan viewers still culled?
>>16486183Whoever wants to take itSee : Luna
>>16486712Nijisanji still tries for all livers and doesn't push sponsorships on the highest tiers like Hololive.
>>16486520Yes mori is well known among people in the world then most JP holos on account of her music just like gura with her overwhelming clip spam. Stop coping.
>>16486490But somehow Fauna doesn’t.
>>16486835not as much
>>16485936JP bros are mostly lonely wageysEN bros are just weaboos
>>16486558So since they were both culled this makes Council stronger than Myth. Myth just has the Gura only watchers for the peak but Council is overall stronger.
>>16486558Kronii could've broken 50k if she didn't do it so autisticallyMumei could've broken 50k if she didn't blow it too early
>>16486712It was cheaper than hiring Holos.
>>16486835Maybe. Wait a few more days and see how their streams behave.
>>16485788I feel Myth's low numbers are at least excused by being too close to their last costume reveal
>>16486649Nothing is worst than Marine with the shorts
>>16486735Anon, your history reps. You're a goddamn mess with your oure-ccv obsession. Yt is not Twitch, no matter how much you fucking want to believe that the platforms operate by the same rules for sponsorship.
>>16485788Where's the retard spouting nonsense about holox SC game?
>>16486735Hololive gets good views&subs, that's why they get sponsorships. Theres a lot of planning for the companies marketing, that is several months, they don't just suddenly decide to sponsor someone for tomorow
>>16486227Can you even hide channel location?
>>16486712>Alchemy Stars[a] (白夜極光, "White Night Aurora") is a tactical RPG gacha mobile game developed by Tourdog Studio of China and published by Tencent Games. It was released globally on 17 June 2021 for Android and iOS devices.
>>16487107>le CCV doesn't matter when mimi shork isn't numba 1!!You fags were happy to use CCV as the top number when Gura did well.
>>16486735I'm worried this isn't bait and someone is actually retarded enough to believe this.
>>16486925stop being a retarded faggot. Wait two or three days and then we can compare their outfit vod views.
Why are they so nervous? They've been streaming for 4 month, shouldn't they be used to it? Every single member dropped their spaghetti during this relay.
>>16487359They have the real numbers and \are seeing the 70k they are really getting.
>>16487215The question was, if they care about CCV, why would they pick Elira and Petra. Elira is ok, but Petra is one of the bottom feeders of NijiENWhy NijiEN at all?
>>16487218It doesn't, even if some shit stirrers love to rub your CCV worship back in your face sometimes.
>>16487218No, no one who is actual numberfag gauging long term success gives a shit about daily ccv shitposting. The yearly views for the whole of 2021 gave a much more accurate view of who was inclining and reclining.
>>16487218that one faggot was probably one, schizo
>>16486925Look at this dumbass. Myth's Cull was the one that dropped Pekora under 10k.
>>16487359Biggest audience any of them has had since debut.
>>16487218What?Anon, you perhaps need fucking meds if you think every poster in the the thread is the same person.
>>16487454was probably you*
>>16487008Kiara "am shit" too
>>16486844Bizarre take. Kiara has had the most promotional streams in myth, twice as many as Gura.
>>16487196You don't have to set one, and you can change it at any time. Bora's changed from Korea to Japan at one point
>>16487218>taking low-quality bait seriously and actually getting mad about it enough to grudgepost You're a fucking retard.
>>16487425Budget. The more numbers they can get you, the more you have to pay them
>new outfit>not even gold for the dayWeakest gen of hololive
POG
>>16486925Compare Myth’s VOD views to Council’s for the New Years outfits in about 24 hours. Myth was CCVID’ed way worse.
>>16487218Damn anon knows who's posting.t.last samurait.last cowboyt.gen5 schizot.pakora schizot.gura schizot.seleniggert.mysta SEAster
Is council a meme
>>16487588Kiara probably accepted all offered to her + those her genmates rejected
Maybe Council would have done better if Gura was pushing them on twitter..at least a retweet Goowa
>>16487700>Luca drops off a cliff when he's near vaginas>Selen getting garbage numbers>Pomu is about the same as usual
>>16487700Why Nijisanji play Genchinc, when they have Dark Souls permissions?
>>16487700selen....
>>16487700wow holobronies, nijien is impressive im really scared
>>16487700disgusting
>>16487425Usually the sponsors just have an open offer they give to the company. Then the company has some kind of internal distribution, bidding, or assignment process. The payout isn't flat rate, it's based on performance. So if Petra gets it vs Selen, the company will pay out less. This is for mundane "we pay you money to play our game" deals. For more involved stuff like Holo's Shadowverse tournament, Gura and Mori doing promotional songs, Ina doing art, Gura's Taco Bell stuff, there is a lot more money and a lot more micromanaging involved. In that case they will request specific streamers based on subs, CCV, VODs, type of content and audience the streamer has- whatever is important to the specific company.
>>16487660I'm betting Ina alone cost more to sponsor than the 7 people they got in NijiEN to shill Proseka
>>16486558Would Mori have beaten Kronii without CCVID
>>16487660So let me get this straight.You think the devs want lower numbers for their shill stream, which is an ad, because they want to save money...that they're already spending for advertising?
>>16487707Why no kuzunigger on this list.. Maybe you are
>>16487359S-Streaming?
>>16487700Holy shit what amazing numbers hololive should really be scared
>Mysta has more number than councilSister...we won..
>>16487911It's because Ina has more subs than all of them combined, not because of her CCV.
>>16487700They said Genshin is buff HAHAHAHA.
>>16487819>Gura using twitterKek, you wish she don´t even want to open twitter.
>>16487916The Capcom leaks from a little while back specifically said they were planning on sponsoring mid-tier streamers since it was better value for money
>>16487916yes anon every dev has infinite money to spend on ads. Now get out of your parents house
>>16487819Gura is saving her push on twitter for the Q song
>>16488032>>16488077ESLs really shouldn't be allowed to post here.Fuck off.
>>16487700Damn, the girls really do nerf the guys hard.
>>16488077Only the gacha part is a buff really. Otherwise it's neutral/debuff. >>16488088Not since the bath salts tweet, that probably caused her to get spooked, combined with her already high fear of yabbing on twitter due to how she used to use it.
>>16488108So that's why they collabed with Mio...
>>16487916Yes because the top percentile of streamers charge an arm and a leg while you can get two dozen 1000 viewer andys for the price of a pack of cigarettes each.
>>16487452Which is why gura #1 is the wrong take, because Pekora gains more views than her on her youtube, streams for longer and twice as much, and is not a gross shark.
>>16487916"What is a Budget and priority spending?">>16488108Makes sense to me. For the premium, you need to PAY a premium, and sometimes it just isn't worth it when you can sponsor 2-3 streamers for the price of trying to grab one of the top dogs.
>>16487359Anon, streaming for Nijisanji's audience is like a practice session for the Holos. It's like the difference between playing ball on your PE class and NBA.
>>16487911241k VOD + a commissioned artwork vs like 20k for each of the Niji streams, probably cost at least double for Ina vs all of them.
>>16488277Yes pekora inclined harder in 2021 on account of streaming more but was still beaten by Kuzuha.
>>16488277Pekora also performs in lives and has a 3d model, which Gura doesn't want. Pekora will be in holofes, Gura won't.
>>16487909Mori got 89k on her last normal outfit reveal, almost assuredly so.
>>16488416>performs in lives and has a 3d model, which Gura doesn't wanta-anon? Did you mean doesn't have?
>>16488416And that's why pekora surpassed Gura in views and CCV. Why is it so hard to accept?
>>16487909Mori in JP time? Yes. Mori when she streamed her NY outfit, debatable. I think Kronii would have won.
>>16486558Kinda pathetic. Council really is a failure.
>>16488497Pretty obvious he typed that just to get someone like you to respond
>>16488077Lize and Rion are the only ones currently continuing to play it in NijiJP, and even they continue to do so as fanservice to the their Chinese audience (they're the one of popular one)
>>16488416>which Gura doesn't wantlol what?
>>16487909Duh, she's the second most known vtuber on the planet
>>16488497Gura doesn't have one since she isn't an important part of the company and has shown little interest in pushing the issue.
>>16488497It's the delusional faggot that shitposts Myth not wanting 3D when it's very clear they oh so very much want it and all the smol ame 3d shit is a clear cope for the fact that they CAN'T while the shitty meme virus continues to run amok.
>>16488544Kanae still streams Genshin too when there's an update>and even they continue to do so as fanservice to the their Chinese audiencelol that's not why they're still streaming it.
>>16486558Gura at only 20% of her true CCV still at the top.
>>16488514Pekora surpassed Gura in views because she streams more and has a year more worth of VODs on her channel.
>>16488397>KuzuhaPekora will overtake him, his average views are not as good as her's in the last few months and he was carried by his songs spurring a huge amount of hublub about him. Pekora is a machine. Plus Hololive easily beats Niji and she can feed off the others to power her numbers whenever she feels like.
Final numbers (and likes).
>>16485574Late reply but this seems odd to me, considering Kronii is the more popular one of the two. Not sure how twitter works, but could the tweets be leftovers from the Mumei rant stream yesterday that was popular?
>>16488603This is bait, btw.
>>16488603>>16488416Hey can we all agree that the moment someone says "en doesn't want 3d" in a post that we all call him a retard and disregard any point he's trying to make?
>>16488721I agree, this will be the last year Niji is even in the conversation, EN inclining will depend on how much they pump out music and 3D, otherwise Pekora will remain on top and HoloX will fill out the bottom of the top 10 list.
>>16488734>mumei has more likes than kroniiWhat does it mean
>>16488108Found the source
>>16488796Yes. Because it's obvious bait.
>>16488850Well do it then
>>16488706Which she'll always do, and will continue to widen as the disparity grows. Pekora gained 20 million views over the last month, Gura gained 10 million.
Speaking of Pekora, why the heck is she gaining new subs so slowly? When someone inclines, like Fubuki, their sub gain goes up.
>>16488796Just call him a last samurai and watch him cry like a faggot
>Council...do you want numbers?
>>16488825It means she could have had a similar peak to Kronii if she didn't reveal the outfit so quickly.
>>16488734sana 20k likefauna 21k likeKronii 24k Mumei 23kBae 19k
>>16488250>10k CCVMio is far from mid sized. Also Mio should have said no and spit on them.
>>16488706So? It didn't change the fact that Pekora still has more views. Even now pekora has more monthly views and that's the fruit of her hardwork.
>>16488903If gura released two songs a quarter and streamed a buff game twice a week she could beat pekora but thats up to her.
>>16488796HoloEN aren't idols. They'd push for 3D if they were.
>>16488706>has a year more worth of VODs on her channel.Gura's VOD views mogs her hard on average
>9k hours of Pokemon beats 15k hours of Valorant and 68k hours of ApexI wonder who is responsible for this
>>16488989Retard
>>16488989Intelligent and correct.
>Pekora and Gura didn't even stream>Pekora vs Gura timeloop starts anyway
>>16489020
>>16488989Do your duty, call him a retard today
>>16489020Hololive...
>>16487700Dear NijiEN staff, Never hire women ever again
>>16489020What's the 11th game?
>>16488989>>16489123Retard
>>16489020Kind of crazy. also Apex Legends with that low average CCV for the amount of streamed hours it has
>>16489197Granblue Fantasy
>>16489197GBF
>>16489185They know, they know. I wonder how the bloke who thought they should do 10 females first feels. Trying to be Hololive-lite was a mistake.
>>16488989Anon yesterday you said the same, no matter how much you say one thing it doesn't make it real.And again, they don´t need to be idols to have 3D.
>>16489197it says it on the picture anon, グランブルーファンタジー
Pekora and Gura love each other. The only reason why they don't collab, is because they know that if they do, all the schizos in this thread will collectively kill themselves
>>16489197Gbf
>>16489020Apex is literally a game that "I have no idea what game should I play so let's play this game for now" type of game for jp streamers.
>>16489185They will have 1 mandatory female hire per wave for diversity sake going forward.
>>16488982If gura streamed in general she'd trounce all of them. But she doesn't. Compared to practically any other above-average holo, she makes barely any content. After a year and a half of this, we can safely assume she never will.
>>16489252Idols = 3D livesI will admit defeat the second they put on a live.
>>16488989>>16489252Retard
>>16489278Why would they spare the schizos!?
>>16488989>>16489252>>16489343Retard
>>16488734Still Better then HoloX
>>16489343Anon if the Aqua Live is not cancelled Gura and Ina are gonna be in it.
>>16489337I don't think it's a 100 percent, but yeah mori beat her last year just by streaming more.
>>16489451Wow they fell off
>>16488989>>16489252>>16489343>>16489456I'm just going to spend the rest of my posts calling this guy and anyone who responds to him retarded until it fucking sinks in
>>16488989>>16489252>>16489343>>16489456Retard
>>16489457Gura just isn't built for hardcore streaming, you can tell just by her attitude and how she interacts. And with experience you're just as likely to pick up bad habits as you are to pick up good ones, heck, especially if you're already super successful.
>>16489451this image has as much validity as people claiming council is doing better than myth
20k for waiting room on the council collab
>>16489456>2DDoesn't count.
>>16489451where's the likes?
>>16489588Its been a year and a half and she's still not used to her viewership size.
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1482502907044024321Yagoo HoloTalk! Numbers?
>>16489506Wow I remember when people used to make fun of Bae's SCs during her first week.
>>16488989>>16489252>>16489343>>16489456>>16489628Retard
>>16489451>Darkness that lowWhat? I thought she was extremely popular?
>>16489588I unironically think getting 3d, doing a concert, and getting fawned over by all the jps would unfuck her brain enough to boost her.
>>16489628>>16488989>>16489252>>16489343>>16489456Retard
>>16489679Oh shit, is this more metaverse shilling? Is Yagoo running out of money and need investors?
Don't spoonfeed the newfag
>>16488989 >>16489252 >>16489343 >>16489456 >>16489628 Retard
>>16489822It seems to me like they need more employees if anything
>>16489765she was based and did a outfit RTA
>>16489678She just acts too much like a gamer kid, not like an idol if that makes sense.>>16489791I could see her just as easily getting a crowd of antis if she comes out awkwardly or does something random and it haunts her.
>>16489822he clarified in the Botan interview the metaverse just meant the VR/3d concert space or whatever so its just a buzzword to get dumb money.
>>16489020the true king
>>16488989 >>16489343 >>16489252 >>16489456 >>16489628 Retard
>>16488989>>16489343>>16489252>>16489456>>16489628Retard
>>16488989 >>16489343 >>16489252 >>16489628>>16489456 Retard
>>16489197GBF very comfy game :)
>>16476063I hate EN more to never adress this shit
10 min and waiting room still ahsnt recovered.mmm
>>16489020FBK was about 1/8
>>16489939Metaverse means everything they're doing, including their own Fortnite-like, which they want to be both a game and a virtual concert venue.
Is it finally time to admit Council was a failure?
>>16490286It's validating 20 viewers at a time nowHilarious
>>16490286They should do a goddamn poll then, just shut these fuckers up and more shit to throw at teamYT.
Ui mama honorary holo right?
Video views/likes/comments for New Year Outfit reveals (excluding Council)>Sakamata Chloe 510.857 views 36K likes 508 comments>Laplus Darkness 459.233 views 28K likes 544 comments>Kazama Iroha 380.308 views 28K likes 316 comments>Hakui Koyori 305.418 views 23K likes 354 comments>Takane Lui 272.467 views 21K likes 175 comments>Momosuzu Nene 271.508 views 26K likes 273 comments>Gawr Gura 892.051 views 67K likes 1.083 comments>Mori Calliope 329.876 views 36K likes 463 comments>Ninomae Ina'nis 321.620 views 37K likes 540 comments>Watson Amelia 294.833 views 33K likes 440 comments>Takanashi Kiara 227.039 views 28K likes 321 commentsAll the above were during the CCVID-21 period that affected JP especially hard, but also EN.Let's see how the Council ones will compare.
>>16470617>Ayame >GFEWell I guess Japan is into NTR after all
Tough competition out there
>>16489506Sana has no gachis now? Shit what is she for then except for the occasional holo drawing
>>16490476>GuraWe know for sure that Pakora couldn't get those numbers.
>16 mins still 1k away from waiting roomFuck
>>16490693no, she revealed her face at the end of the stream, so ppl didn't have enough time to SC.
Why does Bae get more KR donations than the actual fucking gooks in HoloEN?
>>16489659Chloe 36k LikesMori 36k LikesGura 67k Likes
>>16490788she panders to them. Kronii and Ina hardly use Korean
>>16490729To be fair the stream is boring
>>16490788She put extra effort on her KR study streams and they love her now
>>16490476I'm surprised how poorly Nene's costume did.It's 100k view lower than her genmates a year ago and unless costume VODs get a lot of rewatches, it's going to stay that way.Except for Gura, all of Myth's costume VODs are all on the low end compared to 2020 NY costumes
>>16490912VOD views getting culled.
>>16479879Faggot
>>16490729>Stalling at 19k for 10 minutesIt's over...
>>16490912myths costume and i will say conscil costumes are on timeslots not normal for each of their streamers usual timeslots.>>16491102yeah seems like ccvid will be back eventually is a matter of waiting for jps to show it again
>>16487700Update, Selen still going strong
>>16490912HoloEN doesn't really compete with HoloJP besides, even if you double Myth's numbers. Council is pretty bad too even if you double their numbers. When people say HoloEN they mean Gura, which doesn't make sense.
>>16490788Because the rat is cute as fuck
>>16491102To be fair, it's quite boring
>>16490850A bit boring, but it still shouldn't be stalling this fucking long
>>16491102It also happened with most EN streams in the last days
>>16491422i think the only one that didint happen was mumeis.
>>16491422Not really, every EN stream cleared their waiting rooms quite easily.It's only today where we're starting to see this shit again.We're still 600 away from clearing waiting room after 30 minutes.
>>16491358All HoloEN branch is cursed.
Where's the tally for yesterday? Can't find it in the past thread
>do relay>CCVid returnspfhahaha youtube didn't fix SHIT
>>16491619They just unflagged a bunch of accounts and just called it a day.
>>16491619pajeet owned company pls understand
>>16491534only mumeis rant stream cleared it easilybut in the last 4 days it has been slower for everyone, even the nijiEn girls.Compare selene and pomu for example.>>16491619the question is if it will return to JPs
>>16491580 menevermind I found it above
>>16491358YT tried to process the viewers, but everyone has already left because it's boring...
>>16491485Mumei's stream stayed at 14k for about 40 minutes
>>16491718That would imply 0 people joined the stream since it started, you retard.
>>16491789im focusing on the waiting room recovery since it is a bigger indicator.
>>16491789Stream stalling is normal since it'll eventually hit a peak and stop inclining.Taking 36 mins and still not reaching the waiting room is what's bullshit.