/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/ex/バーチャルYouTuber

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

source?
also is ark coming back?

>>16399843
>pic rel
what is the name of the manga, brother?

>>16399878
>>16400000
Song of The Skywalkers

why is there no funnel from ike to mysta?

>>16400201
>Collab with a female
>Part of your audience wants nothing to do with it.
Many such cases in the inverse, and given his 75% female viewerbase, why wouldn't it also apply here?

>>16400201
>Nijisanji doing box pushing
No such thing

>>16400201
becasue is mostly the same viewrs already watching both
it increased in 700 to be fair.

>NijiEN in a few hours
>Selen got invited to OTK apex tourney
Okayish, somewhat surprised. She'll still get cucked by TSM.
>100k Luxiem collab
why do they feel the need to do this? Do they believe their audiences were different. I'd assume it's the same subs that subscribed to all of them.
>Shiki, Bao, Reimu + 1 guy phasmo
First time seeing shiki collabing. It's Reimu.

>HoloEN
>Minecraft disney collab
Is it sponsored like Miko/Suisei? IDK

>>16400583
>shiki
Speaking of her, i think she is one of the most wasted potential ENchuuba. Especially witht the constant selfsabotage

>>16400583
not sponsored
>why do they feel the need to do this?
because tey are dumb

>>16400583
>Shiki collabs with Bao
I thought Shiki is a promising talent? Did she have any scandals lately? Why is she collabing with that drama whore?

>>16400647
>because tey are dumb
Do you honestly think a 5 man Luxiem collab with celebration in the title is going to do poorly?

>>16400647
I'd assume it's a package sponsorship with JP and EN. So they don't need to put "sponsored" on the stream. Already many such cases where sponsored streams doesn't have that. Today's probably the only time they could schedule a group collab together and it's MC.

>>16400697
see the time
and check their MC collab

>>16400697
Imagine celebrating 100k together kek

>>16400668
>promising talent
She threw all those promising after the first 3months

>>16400583
The last time Selen got invited to a streamer tourney, they only talked about rpr.

nijiEN females are a debuff, when do the men drop them completely?

https://youtu.be/swA3XVYvgN4
what're we thinking for tomorrow anons?

>>16400795
Well,
Its called BoxPushing.

>>16400736
It's a single POV collab this time I think and Vox and Mysta have inclined since that MC collab.

>>16400697
Unless the celebration's an orgy between each other, then yes with that timeslot

>>16400583
>>16400785
That's really sad for vtubers. It's as if they were invited only for their audience pull. Like BTS getting cucked on Grammy's.

correct the mistakes from >>16381775
https://youtu.be/MVxzuE392n4?t=53
https://youtu.be/HvrbBz-8FBA

and people say Gura is a nobody without being under hololive brand lmao, can you calculate HER numbers

>>16400201
because biped is boring as fuck to watch

Looks like Kuzuha isn't streaming today

>>16400820
pity push only goes so far, even the holos who are willing to sabotage their numbers for the stars get tired of it after a few streams

>>16400914
shorts dmost of the time barely pass 30 secs what is his point?

>>16401107
He fell for the idol memes

>>16400808
30K minimum

>>16400820
Nina gets more alone

>>16401107
Let's rest for today

>>16401107
Post that pic

>>16400808
Oh, with MARINE?
This one's an easy 25k for sure, I'd wager 30k+.

>>16400808
49,999 before Susan yeets the stream

>>16401107
He's scared of the Nijikiller

>>16401107
why is nijisanji doing this i hate idol shit i just want my streamers to play games again

>>16401107
>He fell for the idol meme

>>16401283
That’s where the money is I guess?
I don’t know how it works with them seeing how a lot of them are signed under record labels.

>>16401283
games dont bring numebrs anymore.

>>16401107
He is doing Aqua now.

>>16401363
except actually getting better at singing and dancing

>>16401132
the point at 4:46 was wrong

>>16401395
pffff

>>16401395
kek you wish

>>16400808
I reported it

mogu mogu hit 6 million

>>16401283
For the money, anon, what else. Kuzuha is lazy I doubt he does it cause he actually enjoys being a fag.

>>16401488
fat cat

>>16401488
sex cat

>>16400000
Checked.

>>16400105
>By Xia Da
Of all the Chink’s manga artist, she is probably one of a few that can actually tell a proper story while having a high tier art.

>>16400000
>>16399878
Use Saucenao my dudes. If this was /a/, you'd be outed as newfags.

>>16400808
>15k max
>somehow gets 20k+ likes
>surprise surprise, somehow she gets 600k+ VOD views

>>16400000
What a way to get the digits, in /#/ of all places.

>>16401877
I mean, it might get there over time, given the content.

>>16400914
So you get more money just because the video resolution is 16:9? Why do the Shorts app make so much less money

Numbers seem low to me.

>>16401939
Can’t put ads into shorts on the shorts app I think.

>>16400808
Another coomer bait?

>>16401107
he’s streaming on the chronoir channel right now with kanae

>>16401948
I agree my wife Lui at 5.5K seems too low given she is the cutest hag in Hololive.
She must be at 10K at least!

>>16401948
if compared to November/December.
otherwise seems par of the course, especially on January which is notoriously a recline month for YT in general.

>>16401928
>overtime
it'll get that after 48 hours
for some reason anon, haachama has low ccv but high VOD views in comparison to her average ccv
>>16402054
this was supposed to happen in December I think but got cancelled when marine went on a break, why do you think there's a high number of marine and haachama lewd art? it was supposed to be for this stream

>>16402062
it's a shill stream......

I wonder how much money yagoo has earned in his career as ceo of cover

>>16402285
considering that it was barely scraping by until late 2020, probably far less than you'd think

>>16402328
Nah, they were probably doing alright once mid 2020 rolled around, but he did take a paycut over everything that happened in 2020, so....

>>16402328
source?

>>16402430
Cover barely had sponsors until late 2020, that Nissin sponsorship is what Yagoo said was the turning point.

>>16402285
>>16402328
didn't Coco say she earns more than him in one of her streams? he also took a paycut for one of the fuckups

>>16402500
It was one of her final streams, where she interviewed Yagoo. He took a pay cut for the Taiwan thing.

>>16402430
in Feburary of 2020 they had a grand total of 20 employees, and at that point in time their major income source came directly from youtube because of what >>16402489 said, and that's not really going to go far for a company.

>>16402595
Cover has been doing quite a few real life sponsorships recently. Selling out at restaurants and I’m going to guess the Sauna/Onsen sponsorship is going to do well too.
Curious to see what opportunities they will get in 3-6 months after these successes.

why are niji lolis unpopular?

>>16402799
contrary to what passes for conventional wisdom around these parts, being cunny is not automatically a pathway to massive success

>>16402799

I remember her 3D debut having a lot of memes and clips going viral when it happened but it didn't help with her views at all lol

>>16402595
Do you remember this site's name?

>>16402848
I'm halfway convinced that the so called "cunny buff" is a cope that jealous 2views and seething last samurai came up with to discredit Gura's achievements and it just went uncontested for so long because there's no comparable example until Petra, wave 3, and Laplus debuted.

>>16402799
>being a female in manjisanji
Why indeed.

>>16403026
sorry, no. I pried it from the archives.

>>16402799
All cunnies are automatically infected with the Gura killer curse. It applies retroactively too.

>>16402799
Did she ever address that cover did a knock off version of her? It must be extra shitty that the knockoff is hella popular.

>>16402799
her drinking zatsudans are really fun. Wished more people would listen to it. She also responds to EN chat which is cute.

>>16403096
That's what you get for not learning kusogaki 101

>>16403144
There's enough time in the world to listen to other vtubers anon. Lamy takes a lot of my time.

>>16403031
just like "last samurai" is a cope invented by jealous eops who dont now any better

>>16403096
Her "knockoff" has better kayfabe, while having a design that doesn't automatically scare away normals, but still appealing to lolicons.

>>16403178
nerve status: struck.

>>16403026
https://initial.inc/companies/A-27236

>>16403096
liking this >>16402799 would make you look like a pedophile.

>>16403144
Drinking zatsudans as a loli. NGMI.

Laplus isn't a numberfag, she's just a young person who is on a complete numbers high from being popular. Trending on twitter, #1 in the world before, must get the blood running.

>>16403249
I fail to see the problem.

>>16403214
Thanks anon

>>16402285
>>16402500
>>16402534
I am certain that he earns less than most of the top Holos (top 10k+, top 5 SC).

>>16403178
you know last samurai isn't a synonym for "people who understand japanese" right?

Lolis are only popular with the appropriate acting and voice. Vtubing as a loli is actually hard mode.

Can't just be your adult self.
Controversy bait for moralfags.

>>16403096
A couple of years ago she had a bit of drama for getting drunk and complaining on stream about kouhai coming to take her fans away. I think she learned her lesson after that.

>>16403031
you're picking the wrong boogeymen. most people who anti gura on this board are other hololive fanbases or the general schizo population.

>>16402595
I'm kind of surprised they haven't tried to raise more money since 2020. You figure it wouldn't be hard to get VCs to give them cash for their metaverse projects.

It's so easy for Holos to hit r/all everyday honestly. There's two post today that went above 10k upvotes for god knows what. It's not a high tier shipost, just a meme image/art. In comparison to other stream subs, they usually get below 1k upvotes.

>>16403315
Yea. It is, instead reserved for those that the "YWNBJ" copypasta is meant to represent.
>>16403288
Anon...

>>16403365
Last samurai are part of the general schizo population

>>16403362
There's a difference between being a bad senpai to your own and some knockoff skank in another lane. It's good to not cause a scene but is must be a bit of a downer.

>>16403349
Gura, Shion and Laplus hits all the right checkboxes. You evidently can't force a loli act, it has to go naturally or else you'll fail like a lot of loli vtubers in the sea. Even Niji fails to get a loli character working.

>>16403369
They can self fund their endeavors I’m assuming.

>>16403369
They don't need to, the problem that cover faced for most of 2021 is that they have so much money that they were having trouble properly investing it. That's part of why they went on a massive hiring spree and set up a massive war chest to rely on in case of business disruptions.

>>16401283
>Nijisanji is known for aiming more for the regular streamer meta than idol one
>The top streamers are trained to be idol like at the end

wtf is last samurai why does hlgg have to invent all these terms I can't keep up with you zoomers

>>16403349
Just call yourself a lolibaba. Works for Gura.
Also, lolibabas are more acceptable (even if marginally) in normalfag circles and just a vastly superior type of loli overall.

>>16403422
How does Cover scouting team do it?

>>16403448
Music makes the most money, can't blame them. Suisei, Watame, Mori and Irys is the front runners for Top VSingers.

>>16403455
it's like white knighting but for weebs defending nipons.

>>16403201
stop repeating something you saw on global retard
whats en's average median? exactly

>>16401283
Copying hololive like how hololive copied from them.

>>16403491
Yagoo personally interviews each talent as well iirc

>>16403455
think its just the shitposting spic pushing it same way he tried to push pakora

>>16401177
>>16401175

>>16403349
>Can't just be your adult self.
Lolibabas are the top tier chuuba personality and the easiest to get right. The problem is that you can't just get it right unless you typecast a voice.

>>16403497
nothing gets close to pmaru-sama, who hasn't been signed with anyone for some crazy reason.

>>16403315
It is used in this way though.
Let's be real, once you know japanese you cant go back to en bitches

>>16403473
Still needs the voice to be right. Also, Gura falling herself old isn't the reason her loli shtick is working. Have you seen the many clips of her stories where she's being treated like a child?

>>16403473
>vastly superior type of loli overall
kys retard. Best loli are elementary schoolers.

>>16403455
Last samurai is a /#/ term, not a hlgg term, and it basically describes the kind of person who believes so deeply in the idea that the more japanese something is the more innately better it is to the point where they start suggesting stupid ideas like cutting off all foreign branches to focus on Japan, just like the titular last samurai who charged a Gattling gun wearing Japanese armour with a Japanese sword.

>>16401283
e-sports is too competitive, easier to just sing and dance.

>>16403578
She ain't a vtuber

>>16403578
Suisei’s album actually sold more than Pmaru.

>>16401283
If Chronoir could become an internet anime idol boys, then there's a chance it could get kpop tier of fame.

>>16403455
It's just another way to say "weaboo".

>>16403590
Now type that without crying

>>16403491
They already have a character design when they open auditions and place a high important on how well that candidate will fit in with that character in addition to the other qualities.

>>16403281
she is a numberfag: she cares about her numbers, but that won't stop her from doing the content she wants. Like pekora or kiara.
Numberniggers are the ones who care way too much about it, brag about it, and might get a mental breakdown when those numbers start to drop.

I would've wanted Reine to be on EN since she streams a lot

>>16401714
Yup. Song of The Long March was really good. Im still seething that it got cancelled

>>16403590
the title makes no sense when it was japanese companies who added that garbage

>>16403652
It seems like your nerves are exposed to the air, you might want to get that looked at

>>16403678
If that's your definition of numberfagging then almost every vtuber is a numberfag.

So the ChroNoiR stream went up to 18k? Not too bad considering this channel is a big debuff but pls stream on your channel Kuzuha... I want to see the numbers...

>>16403569
Who are the top tier lolibaba vtubers you speak of that gets comparable numbers to the gaki lolis like Shion, Gura, etc?

>>16403587
lol
I'm not the retard here, buddy.

>>16403444
>war chest
qrd?

>>16403696
It's basically just the yamato damashi thing that Nijiniggers used to boast about before nijiEN came along, but not limited to nijisanji.

>>16403717
>Not too bad considering this channel is a big debuff
Yeah, I understand why Nijisanji would segregate "fujo bait" from their regular content but either of them would get a bigger audience in their respective channels

>>16403413
why are you so butthurt njibronie?

>>16403444
Their huge profit last year showed that they weren’t able to reinvest it into the company. They massively expanded their team and it’s close to or past 200 people now.
That anon posted earlier that they’re planning to massively expand their live events sector now.

>>16403096
That's why despite seanig's belief un "muh genuine strema be thy self", kayfabe is actually a really important element on what's make a vtuber

Niji concerts might get canceled. The day before yesterday is 6k, yesterday had 13k cases, today - 18k. By 22/23, cases would go up to 35k+more or less.

>>16403719
Shion and Gura are lolibabas. Gura literally called herself a lolibaba. Rushia too, btw, several times. La+ is canonically ancient too. Literally all loli popular loli vtubers are lolibabas, anon.

>>16403652
I can even read the spic off of this. lol

>>16403497
all those you listed didnt make the mistake of signing with a label though. They make their music on their own and keep the profits.

>>16403736
Yagoo mentioned in an interview that they had enough money saved up to keep things going as they are for a couple of years even if the internet suddenly exploded or something. I think it was the business insider interview but I can't verify it right now
https://www.businessinsider.jp/post-231063

>>16403822
Anon, Anycolor would keep the show even if the venue was transformed into a makeshift hospital for lack of hospital rooms.

>>16403822
kek post that pic where their NY's festivals was crowded as fuck. That's probably the biggest reason.

VSpo strong. Much better numbers than usual for this collab.

>>16403822
Hololive even has the coof and Kishida as their allies

>>16403716
yes, it is their fucking job after all

>>16403822 (me)
>>16403872
Also, this is shaping up to be another lockdown just because at Aug-Sept period, they had a lockdown. This is second biggest for them.

>>16403455
newfags trying to fit in hence why they invent some already existing lingo.
>it supposed to hold the same meaning as YWNBJ

>>16403830
They don't act like how I expect lolibabas to act. Age is irrelevant compared to how they act. They act like young brats, not like real adults stuck in the body of a loli.

They could change their stated age and their appeal wouldn't change

>>16403906
99% of vtubers need something else than vtuber in come and many are still in the red.

>>16403963
>They don't act like how I expect lolibabas to act
Nobody cares about yoir expectations. Get over yourself.

>>16403957
really stuck a nerve huh?

>>16403822
Open the fucking country Japan, omicron has already took over anyways

>>16403604
L2D streamer are not vtuber

>>16403988
Bruh Gura could tell her age is 16 and her appeal won't change. It's not a loli granny act that makes Hololive lolis popular.

>>16403991
Who cares? It's not like ID or EN even want 3D.

>>16403719
Anon, all the UOHs are in Hololive. They are all lolibabas. La+ even referred to herself in the "old man" self. The further you move towards the child age, the harder it becomes to get it right, since the voice is the easiest problem to solve for lolis.

>>16403981
theyre still not doing it for charity, they hope to make money out of it

>>16403933
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/japan-extend-state-emergency-lockdown-through-mid-sept-report-2021-08-16/

Here's an article. Tokyo gets hit the highest today. So, there might be a chance another lockdown. There are two situations here for Anykara amidst a rising omicron pandemic, proceed as planned for the 2 days in a 12k capacity venue and risk getting sued heavily/looked down by other japanese companies or cancel the concerts and lose a lot of money

>>16404065
and here we have a typical last samurai in his natural habitat

>>16403933
>Another lockdown
Smells like big numbers for Hololive to me, definitely the work of Watamage once again

are you en numberfags ever going to accept that EN is nothing more than a sidebranch and they won't have nor they deserve proper 3D? just because they are more popular than ID doesn't make them better, they are at the same level, hololive is japanese and nothing will ever change that

>>16404057
You can rephrase your post any way you want and still nobody would care. They are lolibabas and you'll just have to deal with it.
Also, 16 yo are not lolis either, the fuck are you even talking about?

>>16404101
If Kuzuha is truly doing his idol reps...probably will be the same as last year.
Don't give a fuck and proceed with a full capacity.

>>16403590
>spic grammar
lmao

>>16404101
>cancel the concerts
more likely they'll just postpone it indefinitely

>>16404142
Myth is the most succesful vtuber branch in the world. They only need more branches to activate their boxpush.

>>16403822
>>16404101
>Another wave of death and restriction right before niji's massive concert, AGAIN
>everything cooling down right before HoloExpo

>>16404142
Oh look, speak of the devil, a last samurai

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>34,664: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,405: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,911: Rushia (Hololive)
>23,723: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,118: Aqua (Hololive)
>19,983: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,341: Miko (Hololive)
>15,753: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>15,488: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,279: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>14,566: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,930: Aqua (Hololive)
>12,987: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,876: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,708: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,385: Ina (Hololive)
>11,111: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,870: Choco (Hololive)
>10,829: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,763: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,514: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,284: Lamy (Hololive)

>>16404163
>>16404179
They could proceed if it was today or tomorrow, but if it's rising above 30k or 40k in one week, then they're gonna get fucked.

>>16403990

tally anon?

>>16404101
This is pretty much why Cover hasn’t been using bigger venues.

>>16404142
The only reason they don't get 3D is because they can't get themselves to Japan and Cover is too retarded/autistic to even consider setting up a studio locally even if temporary.

>>16404238
when is it anyways?

>>16404195
yeah more branches like council right?

>>16404233
Hololive - 16
merise - 7

nice to see another company inclining

>>16404163
I hope they push through with it, and then get blasted by JP media for hosting a superspreader event

>>16404233
>Mito solo carrying nijigirls
Good job today as well iincho!

>>16404272
>to even consider setting up a studio locally
Yeah, then they would just have to fly the staf-

>>16404142
this. EN doesn't deserve anything. Idk why they even have more outfit. Only thing they deserve is graduation.

>>16404251
It's also why they are setting up their HoloEarth thing, so they could just do completely virtual concerts.

>this. EN doesn't deserve anything. Idk why they even have more outfit. Only thing they deserve is graduation.

>>16404233
I swear Foobs got 20k for the collab

>>16404101
Well, Aqua/Sora might get fucked over then, damn.
At the same time, this thing is trending to less deadly and at some point, it's just gonna end up being cold/flu levels of bad and old and immuno+comp'd are just gonna have to deal becuase people will just stop caring.

>>16404101
if we look at how Anykara handled this stuff last year then they will 100% just proceed as planed. Cover on the other hand will probably refund any live tickets they sold for that time

>>16404233
>shuba gold
where's reddit duck schizo, he has to see this

>>16401283
If you want the real answer, it's for the investors
Most of them are old fucks who don't know much about streaming so saying "major debut" speak louder and anykara works a lot with investors to survive
So even if it will sell like shit the important thing is the act of debuting and selling like an idol

Kuzuha has probably been stuck doing presentations about nijisanji/anykara for the past month

>>16404233
Silverbunny...
Well, I guess Silver is associated with being cold

>>16404275
22/23, in one week. Situation is rising as of now in Japan, they'll probably announce a lockdown in 18/19.

>>16404152
It's just an arbitrary number to point that a loli's stated age doesn't matter for their appeal dumbass

It's their brat act that does. If being a lolibaba was as simple as saying they are over 500 years old and then acting like an adult in a loli body, the Niji lolis would all be more popular.

But they aren't,

>>16404057
>>16403963
Don't worry about it, /vt/ is full of normalfags and ironic weebs who don't even know what the fuck a lolibaba is and just think it somehow has to do with the arbitrary lore age. They never read a doujin with an actual lolibaba in it.

>>16404272
A local studio wouldn't work for EN because they are spread over four continents, they'd still face the travel issues that their Japan studio will face, except they'll have to drop a fuckton of money on setting up a foreign branch and facilities in a foreign land. It might work for ID but they'd still have to drop a bunch of money in a potentially risky venture that could backfire on them. Honestly them biting the bullet and giving them all home 3d ahead of the debuts is a much more likelier event.

>>16404233
subaru pulling those numbers with a zatsudan right?

>>16403885
Runa has inclined alot recently.

>>16404370
If none of the sites caught it, then unfortunately it won't get recorded for the tally.

>>16404370
both vrabi and holostats caught it as 20117

>>16404370

She did. sometimes liveranking don't update the peak in time

>>16404370
>I swear Foobs got 20k for the collab
>>16404443
>both vrabi and holostats caught it as 20117
If it doesn't change positions and the difference is not too big I don't hand edit the live-ranking value because it's too bothersome

>>16404395
yea, they are fucked

>>16402848
Lolis are niche. There's a lot more going on than just designs, though.

>>16404495

fair

>>16404417
Glad someone else here is a true loli connoisseur.

>>16404495
do it right or don't do it at all man

>>16404372
Nah, their concerts happened after the lockdown in aug-sept. Just look at the graph from here. >>16403933

>>16404373
>Aqua/Sora might get fucked over then
Unfortunately yes

>just gonna end up being cold/flu levels of bad and old and immuno+comp'd are just gonna have to deal becuase people will just stop caring
It would've been fine if it was just like that, but previous breakout in japan had a daily increment of 500-2000. this recent one jumped above that, like for the 12th, the cases were 6k, 13th - 13k, 14th - 18k.

>>16404402
>If being a lolibaba was as simple as saying they are over 500 years old and then acting like an adult in a loli body
Newsflash, it is literally that easy. Gura just says she's over 9000 years old and proceeds to act like her 20-something zoomer self. Same for La+ and Shion.

>>16404323
>fly staff for a 3D that even a retard in a student mocap studio could set up
Let me reiterate: there is no hardware/software at Cover that isn't so esoteric or special that they couldn't do a 3D of any kind anywhere in the world. The only particular problem would be potential dox, and even that can be stamped out with potential NDA violations.

For future reference Lolibaba refers to a character that looks like a loli but has the personality of someone who's lived for a very long time. Beatrice from RE:zero is a good example. It has absolutely nothing to do with the arbitrary lore age.

>>16404550
Explain why other "lolibabas" who are doing the same are failing?

>>16404550
Gura talk like a fucking child anon ( a less retard one though)

>>16404495
Yeah it’s isn’t even outranking Aqua if we’re going by Holostats. My numberrot just wanted to see another 20k on the tally but thanks tally anon

>>16404597
tomato/tomatoe
you are still a pedo and no retarded argument is going to change that

>>16404568
Anon, Coco asked why they can't bring the studio into Holohouse or buy it themselves. iirc the studio itself costs "a lot". I forgot what it compared to.

>>16404667

>>16404111
HoloMyth aren't idols and don't want to be ones.

>>16404568
Anon, Hololive 3D software is proprietary and different from even INNK software, which is also proprietary (hence the HUGE difference between INNK studio 3D and Hololive studio 3D before AZKi made the move).

There is also the "camera" crew, the camera director, the set director which needs to make adjustments on the spot.

What you are saying is basically
>lol, why do they even need to film the movie on studio, just hire a crew in India and film it there

https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1482006302024892417?s=20
WTF? Twitter spaces can be archived? And it even has "VOD views"?
Does that mean we can numberfag Twitter spaces too?

>>16404550
Gura literally made a point of announcing twice, on stream, that her mental age was that of 15 year old.

>>16404686
Wanting to be an idol has nothing to do with wanting a 3D.

>>16404597
For future reference: there is no arbitrary behavior that "someone who's lived for a very long time" exhibits. Even octogenerians can act like brats if that's their personality.

>>16404233
Bad peaks but good spread.

>>16404757
yeah they want proper 3d so they can put a light stick between her legs to look like a penis

>>16404686

>>16404657
In other words, not like a child at all.

>>16404629
This
>>16404657
Gura is not a lolibaba, is a straight up loli thanks to her voice. Lolibabas have a more mature tone than the regular loli.
And no, her being retarded is not the reason she is a loli...otherwise half of EN alone would be lolis.

>>16404776
considering we are describing characterization I fail to see how that is relevant

>>16404629
They are doing it badly.

>>16403578
pmaru's album is published by sony.

>>16404776
It's called generalization. The average adult does not exhibit x, y, z mannerisms associated with children. Citing exceptions isn't an argument against the definition.

>>16404816
Anon, who on EN hurt you that much?

>>16404836
Well a fictional one, aka anime loli

>>16404882
la+ is a lolibaba and she is doing mighty fine

>>16404816
yes

>>16404712
Yes, anon. But do you want to numberfag Twitter?

>>16404714
She also made a point of literally saying she's a lolibaba.
"Mental age" of this thread is fucking 13 if you compare average poster to Gura.

>>16404882
I thought it was easy tho?

>>16404862
I said "less retard" to differentiate with real children

>>16404900
Clearly Gura, for having a bigger penis (glow stick) than him.

The memes are already being created. It's so easy to capture the Jojofags. Nina should've learnt better than a whole watchalong is bad.

>>16404862
>Lolibabas have a more mature tone than the regular loli.
I guess the hag at my work who has the cunniest voice is actually a loli, huh. What a retarded take.

I'm a lolibaba AMA

I'm sorry can someone direct me to the numbers thread, I seem to have mistakenly stepped into /a/.

Lolibaba literally means loli granny. If they don't act like a granny they ain't a lolibaba.

>>16405073
>admitting to being a midget
That's not the W that you think it is. Have you gotten piledriven yet?

>>16404965
>She also made a point of literally saying she's a lolibaba.
She actually didn't, she read 'lolibaba' from a comment and didn't even immediately grasp what it meant. Never mind that I wouldn't accept Gura of all people as the arbiter of the definition for an otaku term like that.

>>16405043
Did something Jojo happen recently?
I know Mori did that Twitter space today but I wasn’t listening.

>>16405100
Where discussing cunny and their relation to huge number though, and why cover hogs all the good ones

>>16405100
I'm pretty sure /a/, how shitty they are now, knew what lolibaba actually is.

>>16405100
Day’s already over so there’s practically nothing to numberfag but hey at least it’s not schizos shitflinging and people biting at baits

>>16405064
Holy shit how is it this hard you morons to grasp? Cunny apperance + Cunny Voice + Cunny mannerisms = Loli. Cunny appearance + Cunny voice + Mature mannerisms = Lolibaba. Your co-worker is neither due to apperance.

>>16405064
anon...
>>16404776
Now, can we return to numberfagging STREAM numbers?

>>16405167
Mori talked about Jojo on twitter space for an entire hour.

>>16405183
the precise definition of Loli is something that regularly sparks debate in /a/ even to this day, so no you'd be wrong.

>>16405115
If they act like regular adults, then what? Sorry, but Gura doesn't act like a child no matter how you slice it, she's a regular zoomer neet. In fact, if she tried acting like a child it would be extremely cringy and offputting.

>>16405168
It's a simple premise. If being a legal loli is all it takes to be successful, then why are Gura, Shion, or Laplus the only successful ones?

Also legal loli ain't the same thing as lolibabas.

>>16405153
She said she's an "old lady trapped in a body of a young girl". That's her own words and literally a definition of a lolibaba.

>>16405262
Legal loli ain't the same as a lolibaba

>>16400583
oh, selen is in this. hope she does well, this is kinda big for apex streamers.
https://liquipedia.net/apexlegends/OTK_Apex_Invitational

>>16404233
en gold schizo awfully silent, guess those fans went to the real King huh

>>16405229
Now who is the arbiter of what is a "cunny mannerisms" and "mature mannerisms"?

>>16405262
She acts like anime loli . She neither act like a literal child nor a normal zoomer

>>16404233
So much for Mysta being a stable 10k, not like anyone who wasn’t baiting believed in it anyways.

>>16404542
When's sora/aqua concert?

>>16405351
Eww King can't even get 20k with a collab stream. It's over for JP.

>>16405376
>nor a normal zoomer
She does though. Nobody acts like an anime loli, that is a completely made up personality that doesn't exist.

>>16405417
where's your 10k fujos though? I thought that was new viewers kek

>>16405374
There's a reason Gura is described as a Samegaki or why Shion is a kusogaki. They act like brats, not grannies.

>>16403578
Pmaru-sama is signed to STPR Records.

>>16405474
>implying grannies can't act like brats
One doesn not automatically negate the other.

Why the fuck are (you) fuckers debating loli categories /here/!? Go make a thread >>>/a/ there

>>16405462
You won't be laughing in a few weeks when Mysta finally finishes stealing all of Kuzukek's fan base.

>>16405530
Numbers are boring, this is more fun.

>>16405530
>>16405275
>>16405168

>>16405417

>It's over for JP.
>they got a higher peak than any NijiEN stream today on fucking Twitcast

>>16404712
behold demonetization buff
>500k+ twitter space vod views
https://twitter.com/LaplusDarknesss/status/1478370580990930944

>>16405555
>from muh new viewers
>to stealing crumbs from the King

so what is it?

>>16405517
The difference in appeal is why they are separate categories in the first place.

>>16405489
For those of you wondering "wtf is STPR", it's an indepenent label owned/operates by the strawberry faggots.

After Apex debuff stream tomorrow,
Mysta will spam genshin,
mark my words.

>>16405619
Both. It's time to stop coping JPfag.

>>16405530
We're debating loli their relation to numbers though but it's somehow devolve to debating lolibaba definition

>>16405648
oh hey I remember them. I wonder how they are doing now?

In conclusion, being a loli doesn't mean shit, you need to lure people with your personality first and foremost. Gura, La+ and Shion are just entertaining to watch and listen for a ton of people while others simply aren't.

numbers

>>16405693
This is true, but having a loli character that matches their personalities help.

>>16405693
But should there be at least 1 more successful one outside Holo given a vast number of cunny vtubers ?

>>16405801
I mean...

Watame 8k getto

>>16405876
I ... Well...

>>16405801
Why should there be?
>vast number of cunny vtubers
This should give you a hint that being a cunny character means nothing when only 3 of them are popular.

>>16405928
technically, there is a fourth

Not even one good post...

>>16400808
30k liters of cum

Lamy 10K
Ark is strong

>>16405928
Why does /#/ not know to number ? Just like bigger fandom will have more antis and dumbass, increasing number of cunny will have more cunny make it big

>>16405693
All you need is the brand hololive slapped on the loli's asscheek

>>16404675
You keep focusing on the permanent way more than even I did.

>>16404697
>Hololive 3D software is proprietary
I was under the impression that the only proprietary thing was the face capture stuff from phones to reduce the chances of accidental dox. If they really are using proprietary software for something that's even available on Unreal Engine and Unity for real time broadcast, then they're even more retarded than I expected.

>>lol, why do they even need to film the movie on studio, just hire a crew in India and film it there
I don't think this is the analogy you want to go with since this already happens in the movie industry. That said, for the purposes of a 3D debut in the way that they do them nowadays, there is hardly anyone in the list that's really irreplaceable, especially when the problem is the over-dependence on single source production for an international project.

They had all of 2021 to consider that they may never actually get to bring their foreign talent to Japan even with all the money that they got after all those constant lock-downs, and that the VTuber novelty factor is not going to be ever-present. They're still playing this game like it's 2020.

>>16401736
Oh nyo, don't out me, anything but that!

>>16404697
>Hololive 3D software is proprietary
It's not. They can use their 3D on third party events and they can also use third party 3D with their 3D software.

>>16405801
I mean Hinata in her golden days was like that....

Bottom líne Is that if you think a kid with a thousand years is hot then you are a pedo and also en is never going to have 3d, hold that shit
Now Lets talk numbers for once

>>16405610
Jesas. Are those monetized somehow?

>>16406182
>>16406335
Cover's 3D is based on Unity, but you can't just install Unity and have live studio motion capture in 5 minutes, they will have done a lot of custom integration work

>>16406397

>>16405801
Pink Cat could have, but she flaked... and so do most of the westies that try. In the east... it could boild down to them being boring as entertainers or too far down the wrong path. I know for one that Niji's loli doesn't give the "mainstream appeal" vibe at all.

>>16406399
Twitter does have a monetization option but fuck if I know how it works.

>>16406397
Again
>>16405275
>>16405168
>>16405801
It's all number anon.

>>16406527
Twitter's only monetization for individuals is Super Follows, which are essentially the same thing as YouTube memberships, letting you do members-only tweets and spaces. They're also not generally available yet, you can only use them if Twitter hand picks you

>>16406522
despite pink cat's and her white knight's protests to the contrary she is a loli. Just like how making a loli 9000 years old doesn't make her not a loli, neither does going "She's really 174cm tall, honest".

Oh yeah, I just remembered, why did we ever numberfag about HoloEN SCs/Income and compare it to NijiEN? If anything, Myth had a 1 year headstart with tons of sponsorships and daily SCs. They've probably earnt double than the total earnings of all NijiEN including streamlabs.

>>16406715
selennigger got desperate

>>16406715
Nice try but we're discussing cunny's number here.

>>16406024
technically no

With cull, we had real numbers. Was it worth the fix?

>>16405530
why is she angry?

>>16405801
YAGOO-sama save Amamiya from Niji onegai

>>16404233
>ENwhores getting dicked down by nijimales
based

>>16406486
You're not supposed to setup a mocap studio in a day, but that doesn't preclude boneheaded business decision-making.

This the one part where being too conservative and safe when they should be taking risks to further improve revenue generation and show that they're more than just a passive entity that stumbled into success. Just like how they don't bring clippers/editors in-house or how they haven't even tried finding proper English language music production staff (until recently), or how they're focusing on the wrong aspect of metaverse shit when they already had it right with the gacha/game collabs.

>>16406963
I wasn't counted. That isn't real numbers.

>>16406963
This means watching several broadcasts in separate windows, so that they are all active - real and the numbers of HoloJP do not correspond to reality. And when 5-6 talents, each of which have a 20k viewers - in fact, there are not 100-120k viewers, but much less, just many people open several windows at the same time?

Apparently when it was "fixed" and CCVid happened.

>>16406963
Is that 4 active windows but only 3 'people'?
The problem with the cull wasn't removing multi-window or multi-tab viewers. Imo, sucks, but is mostly fair (even if Twitch doesn't remove them).
The issue was people viewing had their ACCOUNTS FLAGGED for DELAYED VERIFICATION. THAT is an issue, and the fact it was getting worse with time.

>>16407025
You say that, but any other day when Gura's streaming, she dicks down every niji with her long hard rod. Kuzuha who?

>>16406699
That's why I said that she flaked. She is so dependent on what others think of her that she can't even own her own personal tastes out of fear of being rejected by the people that she considers her peer group. Doesn't help that she lived through internet harassment that got a little bit too real for her early on and you can sort of understand why she is the way that she is.

>>16403379
For reference that's about the same amount of engagement that r/anime gets

>>16407025
blindchama

>>16407188
The number of people that watch in SEPERATE WINDOWS, IN INCOGNITO MODE, aren't they high. Most would rather be able to chat or use holodex, which still only count for 1.

>>16407026
>Just like how they don't bring clippers/editors in-house
Anon, we've been through this, there's no way cover will break even financially by bringing in official clippers and they are already giving them more publicity they could ever pay for FOR FREE so why would they do anything to rock the boat?

>>16407314
But I do. I support my oshis, all of them.

Watame is about to get 10k for a stream that started before midnight, that means she doesn't get onto any chart right? That's such bullshit if that's the case.

>>16407385
She should but I doubt tally anon cares all too much about it. It’s not like it’s winning gold or anything like Fubuki’s Magikarp fishing arc which literally almost started minutes before midnight JST

>>16407385
>that means she doesn't get onto any chart right?
Well, unless someone has a PhoneWave (Name subject to change) in hand and can notify the anon making the daily tally so he can change it retroactively, that's how it goes.

Sucks to be her but it makes things much easier: 1AM JST the tally is taken and frozen in time

>>16406963
>With cull, we had real numbers
No you didn't.

>>16407625
btw, that's good old Watame strategy
>stick around long enough to catch ALL FUNNELS

>>16407339
Some people just don't know how huge youtube's ad revenue is. Sushi probably gets a minimum of 10k monthly.

>>16404233
missing watame

>>16406963
fake and gay

>>16407955
>Jan 5
>Cull was "fixed" Jan 10

>>16407767
>

>>16407767
its not funnels retard, it is elite4 to cynthia battle

>>16407988
The thing you should be testing is multiple windows logged into the same account, which is what anyone actually watching multiple POVs will be doing

>>16408006

part of it was the funnel. she was growing very slowly during the elite 4, but it got a bit faster when lamy and nene ended and then a bit more with cynthia

Correct final tally
>34,664: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,405: Pekora (Hololive)
>24,911: Rushia (Hololive)
>23,723: Laplus (Hololive)
>20,118: Aqua (Hololive)
>19,983: Fubuki (Hololive)
>19,341: Miko (Hololive)
>15,753: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>15,488: Kiara (Hololive)
>15,279: Shubuya Hal (merise)
>14,566: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>13,930: Aqua (Hololive)
>12,987: Mito (Nijisanji)
>11,876: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,708: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,385: Ina (Hololive)
>11,111: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,909 Watame (Hololive)
>10,870: Choco (Hololive)
>10,829: Koyori (Hololive)
>10,763: Lamy (Hololive)
>10,514: Suisei (Hololive)
>10,284: Lamy (Hololive)

>>16407988
>>16406963
kek lying nigger, i just tested, 0 viewers