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>> No.16314082

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking
>https://youtubeliveen.soraweb.net/

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/jwfivCFB

>> No.16314560
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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>136,005: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,154: Subaru (Hololive)
>26,737: Marine (Hololive)
>25,229: Botan (Hololive)
>23,625: Towa (Hololive)
>20,845: Iroha (Hololive)
>15,800: Fubuki (Hololive)
>13,737: Lamy (Hololive)
>13,015: Towa (Hololive)
>12,553: Suisei (Hololive)
>12,127: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,050: Uruha (VSPO)
>12,006: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>11,542: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>11,347: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>11,167: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>10,586: Hinano (VSPO)
>10,365: Mio (Hololive)

>> No.16314749

Winners of the day

#01 Chloe (Hololive) 39.2k
#02 Korone (Hololive) 48.1k
#03 Pekora (Hololive) 59.7k
#04 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 14k
#05 Toya (Nijisanji) 19.7k
#06 Yashiro (Nijisanji) 20.6k
#07 Towa (Hololive) 37.5k
#08 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 43.1k
#09 Gura (Hololive) 50.9k
#10 Gura (Hololive) 21.1k
#11 Pekora (Hololive) 37.3k
#12 Pekora (Hololive) 136.1k

>> No.16314826

>>16314749
this fagposter is one of the two IPs above

>> No.16315073

Seems like the CCVID recovery emptied out this thread.
Either that or everybody got sleepy after they bounty of numbers today

>> No.16315502

>>16315073
Pretty much normal for the thread to slow down around this time. Also, literally nobody streams right now

>> No.16315644

>>16314560
VSPO inclining HARD

>> No.16315975

>>16315073
I always need a nap after cumming so I guess everyone else did after seeing Peko get 130k

>> No.16316018

>>16315073
Its not fully recovered.
Mori got 120% poll participation in 6 minutes, and Risu got 100% in 1 min. Both earlier today.

>> No.16316113

>>16316018
Would that be CCVID or remnants of the 2020 cull?

>> No.16316181

>>16315073
Just wait for SEA to wake up and you'll see the shitposting ramp up.

>> No.16316257

>>16316113
CCVID. My account is still flagged. So most likely some regions including Japan got their accounts unflagged while others didn't, or it's rolling back and it's just taking a while to get through all the accounts.

>> No.16316269

>>16316113
Its probably from the earlier Cull but thats a good thing,If the Holo talents make some noise and expose that the Ytb number system is still a joke maybe YouTube will do something and reverse that one too.

>> No.16316324
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>>16316257
or maybe you just got reflagged

>> No.16316383

Question because no streams now:
Did you expect peko to get more then 130k?

>> No.16316398

>>16316324
You're not wrong... It looked like it was working for me and then a few hours later it wasn't. Unless I was just unlucky and someone joined the stream I was testing at the same time.

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>>16315073
Entering EN primetime, means midget number so..

>> No.16316410

>>16316113
Probably 2020, but might be linger CCVID.
Or 2020 was actually bigger than the -40% shown because those numbers assumed they would have only matched November numbers instead of inclined further.

>> No.16316521

>>16315502
Are there any major audience that watch stream at this hour ? I Usually don't see many vtuber but I remember Ina or Fauna or some NijiEN stream at this time

>> No.16316523

>>16316383
Not surprised by it at least. Some here like to act like Pekora doesn't have the highest ceiling, but she does. She just doesn't do the big collab events to show it off. The metronome tournament would've been in that streams over 100k list as well if it wasn't for CCVID.

>> No.16316556

>>16314560
>Not a single EN

>> No.16316951

>>16316404
Chloe you fucking whore do a public solo stream at a proper time already, it's been a week since you last made any decent money and your schedule has nothing but collabs and a member stream until the 17th, I miss when you were mogging all the poorfags every day but now you still need another 9k to get above Yashiro

>> No.16317159

>>16316951
She got knocked out by her own smell since she refuses to take a shower. She needs the other members to wake her up which is why she only does collabs.

>> No.16317273

>>16316556
no stream no rank.

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Also speaking of Chloe what did she delete?

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>> No.16317384

>>16316521
Not really. Burgers are working and Europeans don't usually watch streams.

>> No.16317438

>>16317312
Kek, Nijishitty back to getting blown the fuck out. Wouldn't have it any other way.

>> No.16317793

>>16317384
>and Europeans don't usually watch streams.

Speak for yourself, I always have a JP Holo on during work

>> No.16317921

1/1 - 1/12 median

>Gura 21,117
>Pekora 14,478
>Marine 11,355
>Kuzuha 8,900

>> No.16317994

>>16317438
you should get a hobby or something

>> No.16318134

>>16317921
Kuzuha...

>> No.16318171

>>16317921

King, numbers are better now. Stream something....

>> No.16318177

>>16317921
>Kuzuha is a sub 10k shitter
I guess idol reps wasn't the best idea, lol.

>> No.16318246

>>16316383
Honestly expected around 150k, but the late announcement and the new strain of CCVID stopped it. She also debuffed the show with that Dragon Quest gift she made for herself.

>> No.16318293

>>16317384
>Europeans don't usually watch streams
How would anyone know, we have a sample size of 0 because nobody streams at times they can watch
Even Kiara for some reason streams just early enough that wagies arrive as she transitions to superchat reading

>> No.16318454

>>16318246
>Dragon quest debuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p91k3uc3sq8

>> No.16318471

>>16316383
Nope, I didn't think she would even get close to Marine

>> No.16318525

>>16316521
Twitch tubers seem to always get a audience around these times.

>> No.16318592

>>16315644
>VSPO inclining HARD
Re:Act really shit the bed, huh?

>> No.16318639

>>16315644
You can't use buffed CR numbers as measure for anything. Lauren and Ratna are normally around 3-4k and they're 11k there.

>> No.16318641

>>16318592
vspo likely just naturally inclining due to cr exposure, apex/valorant tourists, and interaction with various japanese streamer groups (including some cross-pollination with nijis and twap)

>> No.16318696

>>16318592
react were never close

>> No.16318707

>>16316521
Latin America

>> No.16318709

>>16318639
I would agree with you that there is buffed cr numbers but even so they are still inclining..

>> No.16318747

>>16318454x
Sorey's Theme from Tales of Zestiria was playing when my country got in.
The playlist had a bit of everything. Get a better argument.

>> No.16318819

>>16318747
nigga is fucking dragon quest on japan

>> No.16318838

>>16318246
Nobody expected 150k. Most expected 100k max.

>> No.16319102

>>16318293
> we have a sample size of 0 because nobody streams at times they can watch
Are there any notable indie that stream for EU ? It is pretty big so it's a little weird that no one have try to aim for that market

>> No.16319103

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfoVMLUYiIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ej4A2LB7NQ
Two big contenders for today's gold, anything on the Niji side?

>> No.16319182

>>16314560
It would be very funny if VSPO overtake Nijisanji to be the new Hololive's rival

>> No.16319206

>>16319103
>That Miko stream
This is an annual stream for her and she is doing it late this year. She did it on New Years Day last year. Was she purposely waiting out CCVID?

>> No.16319211

>>16319182
See: >>16318639 and stop being a retard

>> No.16319271

>>16319211
More Nijikek cope. Face it, Nijishitty is becoming more and more irrelevant by the day.

>> No.16319290

>>16319206
She was going to do it on the same day as Pekora’s birthday countdown but got emotional over not being invited to the concert and delayed it to after the concert.

>> No.16319306

>>16319271
>two members which are normally midgets hit 11k+
>Niji is becoming irrelevant
Meds

>> No.16319330

>>16319103
https://youtu.be/wki3TAxwS9g
this one has potential due to all the tourists. Though I think the Kanata one will get more viewers.

>> No.16319335

stop arguing with yourself schizo

>> No.16319375
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latest rfa 1 week ago vs the current one. man the graphs with CCVID look so fucked up in comparison

>> No.16319413

>>16317312
given that niji and holo are more or less comprable, doesn't this just mean that medals are a dumb metric

>> No.16319479

>>16318171
King is too busy playing private valo customs with his gf to stream

>> No.16319502
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>> No.16319563

>>16319102
There's really nobody notable on Youtube that hits EU primetime on a regular basis. A few members of HoloEN and NijiEN stream late in the evening, Kiara streams slightly too early.
It's weird because it's a very successful time slot for a lot of Twitch streamers, and pretty much everyone from the big agencies except Mori and Irys could stream at that time if they wanted.

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>>16318171

>> No.16319700

tough day for the NijiEN girls

>> No.16319753

>>16319700
They need the males in their VC to boost their numbers

>> No.16319789
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>>16316951
>still playing with the slot machines

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>>16319700
CCVid is obviously still in place for them and most ENs/IDs. Youtube only fixed it for JP since they were bitching about it harder.

>> No.16319807

>>16319700
IS gonna be tough for the holo en girls too.
sponsore MH rise with 4 pov and fauna decide to do asmr on top of it.
only mori will get good numbers today

>> No.16319854

>>16319803
>102 minutes ago
Meds nijinigger

>> No.16319872

>>16319502
Suzu's birthday ended up saving .LIVE from being embarrassed by the company of literal whores, both of them are a fucking mess though so I'll be curious to see if someone else can take that spot in 2022. Noripro also got ridiculously close to 774 in the end considering they only had 10 talents (the new branch is debuting but they lost Lilith who was a good earner). VSPO's SC game is inclining but they'll never be a powerhouse on that front with all the male collab.

>> No.16319875

>>16319807
>3 streams in the next 20 hours
>2 of them overlap each other
Amazing job Hololive English

>> No.16319893

>>16319789
I fear for her when she finally gets her payout of 120k+. How much of it will she gamble away

>> No.16319938

>>16319803
en vtuber fans just love to hit the like button is all that is anon

>> No.16319942

>>16319502
>Hololive more than 75% more in SuperChat revenue than Nijisanji
>Has less than 50% of the talent
Never ceases to amaze me how different the fan culture is. But here's the kicker:
>Hololive makes more than the rest on the table combined

VSPO is the surprise though, with their #5 ranking... or maybe that was to be expected after the .LIVE yab.

>> No.16319946

>>16319875
Fauna is a guest in the mori one so i supposes this was the only time she could find since who knows who long she will take.

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>>16319893
All of it

>> No.16319973

>>16319413
>comprable
Did you just make a word up?

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Parra passed Nimu, now making him the most subscribed Spanish-language VTuber and the most subscribed indie.

>> No.16320027

>>16319803
No it's not and I like NijiEN. Pomu will probably have to think about going back to her job soon enough. The culture of giving girls free money disappears when other men enter the picture for free.

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>>16319854
>>16319938
Took 17 minutes for her to recover her waiting room.

>> No.16320047

>>16320012
Isn't nux tako the most subbed indie?

>> No.16320062

>>16320012
sub count doesn't matter

>> No.16320067

>>16320047
doesn't he have his own group now?
so technically not an indie

>> No.16320074

>>16320031
that was her conection shitting the bed
portal2 is just a weak streaming game. see gura and ina numbers when they did it

>> No.16320097

>>16320031
Looks more like 2 minutes, given her stream was dead and she had to restart her PC

>> No.16320153

>>16320074
And what is that second weird drop? Doesn't look like connection dying.

>> No.16320176

i've been into nijien since pomu's debut and it's starting to feel like absolute shit. It's painful to see girls who won't be cared for especially when Hololive is right next door and is constantly throwing amazing parties and celebrations

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>>16319375
>man the graphs with CCVID look so fucked up in comparison
They look like the EN graphs, microspikes and all.

>> No.16320213

Anyway 4pov Mh Rise sponsor collab.
A debuff since the girls already burned out rise at the beggining of last year.
Waiting rooms:
Ina 3.4k
kroni 2.8k
Sana 1.6k
Bae1.3k
Bae being the lowest since she had the stream unlisted just up until 1hr ago.
Should have been asingle pov imo.

>> No.16320217

Hololive Over 100k Concurrent Peak Live Views (Holostats)

** Top 10 **

07/01/2021 491,342 Coco Graduation
05/07/2021 194,140 Gura Costume reveal
12/19/2021 187,392 Pekora 2nd Costume reveal
11/28/2021 180,499 Koyori debut
11/29/2021 176,697 Chloe debut
11/30/2021 175,823 Iroha debut
11/26/2021 167,584 La+ debut
11/27/2021 149,755 Lui debut
10/21/2020 145,305 Miko 3D Return
10/21/2020 140,116 Noel Costume reveal

** The Rest **

07/03/2021 139,393 Marine 1M Gen3 3DLive
10/18/2020 137,900 Marine Costume reveal
01/12/2022 136,102 Pekora 3rd Birthday Live (NEW)
07/29/2021 136,068 Marine 2nd Costume reveal
05/03/2021 135,527 Mori Costume reveal
12/13/2020 129,528 Pekora Pekomama debut
05/27/2021 126,480 Subaru Costume reveal
07/30/2021 124,596 Marine Birthday LIVE
12/31/2020 123,926 Hololive New Year's Eve
11/13/2020 119,493 Gura 2nd Karaoke
08/14/2020 113,092 Botan Hololive debut
12/11/2021 112,093 Gura 2nd Costume reveal
01/31/2021 111,367 Nene Costume reveal
11/08/2020 109,860 Rushia Gen3 Smashbros
05/02/2021 109,792 Ayame Costume reveal
07/05/2020 109,528 Kanata 3D debut
06/27/2020 108,689 Coco 3D debut
11/30/2021 108,611 HoloX first full collab
07/18/2021 108,004 Rushia 2nd anniversary
06/23/2021 107,020 Coco Costume reveal
07/12/2020 105,716 Watame 3D debut
08/12/2020 103,408 Lamy Hololive debut
10/04/2021 101,868 Noel 2nd Costume reveal
05/07/2021 101,843 Amelia Costume reveal
11/15/2020 101,171 Shion Costume reveal
05/09/2021 100,436 Aqua 2nd 3DLive

** Non-streams **
09/30/2021 118,000+ Coco pre-chat

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Roboco still has issues with her waiting room as well. Did her connection die too?

>> No.16320270

>>16319942
VSPO is pretty much inarguably the #3 JP agency in terms of views so it's no surprise they're above a .LIVE who have lost literally half of their talents. That's a huge gap between them and Noripro though, which shows that if you want that SC money unicorns are the ones who pay up (yes I'm aware VSPO make plenty of money from other sources)

>> No.16320277

>>16319807
the hololive girls will ALWAYS have multiple rich donors to take care of them

>> No.16320286

>>16320254
No, roboco is a bot

>> No.16320319

>>16320254
Roboco overlspet 30 min so her waiting room was the full people that usually check her streams.
so she still fall under her normal numbers

>> No.16320327

>>16320254

>Did her connection die too?

its both her own internet and server ark things (dying out of nowhere because updates)

>> No.16320363

>>16320153
Right at the start the stream died she had to restart her PC, the one at 40 mins was connection shitting the bed. Was buffering for a few minutes then showed fully offline for me for a minute or so.
When it's a 2 POV collab that stuff will cost you some viewers

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>>16320176

>> No.16320449

>>16320153
>Doesn't look like connection dying.
but it did die, and she posted in her chat that everyone should go to Elira´s stream, but shortly after that her stream was fine again

>> No.16320499

the effects of ccv still are present on big collabs with low ccv holos compared to high ones

>> No.16320534

That Ayame, Marine and Kanata offcollab hit about 80k didn’t it? I imagine the trip stream will hover between 60k and 100k

>> No.16320604

What was the waiting room for the MonHun EN collab?

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>>16319803
>CCVid is obviously still in place for them and most ENs/IDs
correct

>> No.16320654

>>16320604
Check vrabi

>> No.16320673

>>16320604
Why not check if someone posted that exact thing at the time the collab started?

>> No.16320735

>>16320604
see
>>16320213
kronii and ina recovered fast but bae and sana are still taking time. As some one said big overlaps make a few holos suffer

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7 min (nearly 8) recovery, that's a bit long

>> No.16320795

>>16320769
EN viewers are just more suspicious.

>> No.16320820

>>16317310
Probably her early SC reading streams

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Silvervale numbers.

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>>16319803
next time use a pic that shows a metric like poll votes/likes beating ccv in a short time instead, so people cant argue its viewer chum

>> No.16320915

>>16320027
Yeah, if you want to be able to live off of vtubing and make it your sole career as a female Nijisanji just simply isn't an option. Once the men showed up the girls got completely abandoned and their superchats cratered. The same thing happened with JP. Its really sad but I can't really blame anyone other than Pomu herself. Any shitter in this thread could have told you that was going to happen yet a supposed Nijisanji superfan like Pomu didn't even account for such a happening.

>> No.16320933

>>16320606
>144p
SEAbros..

>> No.16320955

>>16320855
Not worth comparing because, well, first off, Twitch, and second, she has a drops promotion where you can get DLC for the game and that always boosts numbers

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>>16320855
IMPORTANT!!!

>> No.16320965

>>16320855
>Mogging all of HoloEN except Ina playing the same game
Susan, please... unnerf EN...

>> No.16320984

>>16320606
How can you even watch with this?

>> No.16320991

>>16320270
>VSPO is pretty much inarguably the #3 JP agency in terms of views
Yeah, that much is apparent to us. This is /#/ after all. To me the surprise is that they managed to capitalize on their growth opportunities, which is reflected on the SC revenue that is large in spite of their size as a company/group.

>> No.16320998

>>16320855
getting mogged by kroni and ina
then again
>twitch vs youtube
the girls have a 4 person overlap right now and also drops

>> No.16321031

>>16320991
They are #2

1. Hololive
2. VSPO
3. 774
4. Re:AcT
5. Niggershitty

>> No.16321062

>>16320855
Is she inclining now that she doesn't have that god awful model?

>> No.16321081

>>16321062
Raided

>> No.16321114

>>16320957
>a single person can be responsible for ~15% of the posts in an entire thread
why are schizos like this?

>> No.16321117

>>16319803
Nah.. that's just how seanigs are. Mostly tabs in, watch a little and leave a like.

>> No.16321131

>>16321062
when did she get her model upgraded? the one in the screenshot looks a million times better than the one she had before

>> No.16321155

>>16321062
Unironically yes. Her 3D was so ass that it made her streams unbearable.

>> No.16321159

jwu is holoen really doing a 4 pov sponsor on fucking mh after everyone and their mom played it to death
do they hate numbers

>> No.16321170

>>16321062
nah 4k is her average

>> No.16321174

>>16321062
looks a lot better, I always just dismissed her as the fat one based on her previous model

>> No.16321192

>>16321062
I saw her and froot with 2k the other day so no. There is a reason they mostly only bait with Nyanners, Vei and Mouse.

>> No.16321206

>>16320769
So EN is still suffering from at least a mild case of CCVID? That is a damn shame. Wonder when, if ever, we will get to see them un kneecapped? Its been over a year now of youtube fucking over EN.

>> No.16321221

>>16321159
It just got released to the west on PC also no reason to turn down a sponsor from Capcom

>> No.16321237

>>16321159
is sponsored

>> No.16321249

>>16321159
The numbers they are interested in in this case are the sponsorship bucks

>> No.16321259

>>16321031
>nijisanji below Re:Act and 774

Doubt
did Nijisanji burn your house down or something

>> No.16321282

>>16321159
>sponsor
>hate numbers
Retard, they're getting the number that actually matters.

>> No.16321308

>>16319413
They’re not comparable.

Nijisanji is a TV station (say, NBC), they hire entertainers, some are successful, some are filler and all of them give the station “the audience”.
Like TV station entertainers, the talent is fungible. Poor performers can get their show cancelled or worse, moved to the Friday afternoon slot. Others are hired for a short burst of audience before they recline.
Talent come and go all for the benefit of the station, and all benefit when the station succeeds and rises up.

Hololive is a girls band (say, Spice Girls). Their producer makes a huge upfront investment on each hire, carefully craft their image, even give them a lore (posh spice, sport spice, baby spice).
They expect each hire to be as successful as possible, to be as profitable as possible for as long as possible to make their investment back.
Looking successful is as important here as actually being. Top the charts, pack the stadium, gold records.

Nijisanji and Hololive may be comparable in the sense both are entertainment companies but they’re not comparable in the way you’re implying.
Gold medals are a great way to measure Hololive success, and that’s *without* taking away from Nijisanji’s merit.

Conversely, Nijisanji big events (Koshien, NJU, all tournaments) are a great way to measure their success and that’s *also* without taking away from Hololive’s merit.

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>> No.16321396

>>16321206
I honestly think they just rolled out the same culling in Japan that they were already doing in North America.
My account seems to still be marked as a bot. I only appear as a viewer if I log out.

>> No.16321409
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>10 mins

>> No.16321418

>>16321308
You could have simplified that by simply saying

Hololive = awesome
Nijishitty = shit

That is how I look at it.

>> No.16321455
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16321455

TODAY ON THE MIDGETS RACE
THE RUNT DUO OF LUXIEM IS PLAYING THE SUPERBUFF GAME OF A WAY OUT. HOWEVER THEY DECIDED TO IT ON A SPLIT POV
WITH BOTH SANA AND BAE ALSO DOING A 4POV MH RISE WHO WILL WIN THIS RACE IN THE END

>> No.16321465

>>16321308
This is an impressively terrible analogy, well done anon

>> No.16321483

>>16321396
There is culling, it's been going on for a long time, but it isn't the same as the thing they did after Christmas.

>> No.16321542

>>16321455
just graduate both branches christ

>> No.16321556

>>16321455
even grimmer for the nijigirls now

>> No.16321586

>>16321308
Good analogy, but I think SNL is a better analogy for Niji tho, because they don't nearly produce enough content to be a tv station.

>> No.16321596

>>16321206
Yeah, EN still gets insanely high engagement for their CCV. Nobody thought it was weird until CCVID caused it to happen to the JPs as well. Like, people joke about dead subs, but when Gura has double the unique chatters compared to anyone else in the company despite streaming less than the top JPs, and getting more votes and likes than peak viewers is common for all EN members, there might be some fuckery going on.

>> No.16321618

>>16321455
Iroha is just reading superchats how are they below her...

>> No.16321634

Doesn't it seem like sponsored streams are bigger debuffs for ENs than they are for JPs? Is it because of audience attitudes or is it just badly-fitting sponsorships?

>> No.16321651

>>16321308
Based. Hololive is for trannies.

>> No.16321660

>>16321455
>Split POV of A way out
>They already did split POV last time and know the game is fucking split screen already
They don't deserve numbers. You're making jackshit from SCs in a collab anyways.

>> No.16321727

>>16321308
nice blogpost, it is entirely made of shit

>> No.16321741

>>16321618
JP is unculled and EN is still getting culled as seen from the graphs.

>> No.16321748

>>16321634
The fact that a stream is sponsored is never an issue. It just depends what the game is.

>> No.16321753

>>16321409
Meanwhile Luxiem recover in about a minute

>> No.16321769

>Bae
>2.8k
>Likes are STILL climbing faster than viewers
I know its MH, but come on. This hurts to watch.

>> No.16321773

>>16321618
Monhun arc already happened last year. Unless it isbsunbreak which is coming until summer most people already watched and played the game

>> No.16321781
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>>16321455
>split POV on an already split POV game
A-are they retarded?

>> No.16321819

>>16321769
Look at Sana lol, she has more likes than Bae. (4.1k)

>> No.16321853

>>16321819
Sana had the frame up for longer. Bae had it unlisted until 1hr before stfeam started

>> No.16321874
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>>16321455
French indie numbers

>> No.16321892

Kronii beating ina. She number 2 in en now???

>> No.16321893

>>16321455
Burgers, its your prime time. Watch streams, onegai.

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>>16321819
>>16321853
The rate of increase is what's painful to watch.

>> No.16321916

>>16321874
Saruei is unironically mid-Vshojo tier and bigger than Selen
Not as small as you're making her sound

>> No.16321938

>>16321769
bae is also the latest pov created, in like an hour or so before the collab, giving it practically no time to collect likes from randoms who couldnt wait until the stream would actually start. So basically all her likers are watching

>> No.16321940

>>16321893
We aren't being counted, sorry.

>> No.16321958

>>16321634
Anon, westerners are far less keen on being shilled shit. But this particular brand of low numbers boild down to the game not being of particular interest in the west. You stand a far better chance of successfully shilling a pre-release game since that at least drives curiosity.

The other big problem is that the game has to fit the audience it's being shilled to and westerners have a realtive distaste for JRPGs for being... well... JRPGs.

>> No.16321963

>>16321893
>mh
Until sunbreak i refuse to wq
Watch more mh

>> No.16321975

>>16321916
doesn't Selen stream on twitch? how do her numbers there compare?

>> No.16321977

EN audiences won't bitch hard enough, it won't ever get fixed

>> No.16321990

will this thread be tracking the record breaking NFT sales by hololive?

>> No.16322002
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>>16321769
pic for the record

>> No.16322020

>>16321916
Eh yeah but she was a facecam streamer for years, she had a built up audience that transferred. There's a reason we never cared about that male streamer that made the switch too and had 10-15k average.

>> No.16322026

>>16321916
She is also a relative big artist

>> No.16322028

>>16321958
monster hunter isn't a jrpg

>> No.16322037

>>16321892
Kronii is only hampered by her own laziness and crippling depression, this is known.

>> No.16322057
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16322057

Another day without a single EN hitting 10k

>> No.16322067

This collab is doing OK numbers for a seriously played out has-been game and no shark, I'd say

>> No.16322088

>>16321990
undoubtedly, they should 100% get into shilling crap like that considering the sheer dedication of the Japanese fandom

>> No.16322090

>>16321031
youre a retard. Nijisanji is up there with Hololive in Japan.

>> No.16322098

>>16322057
They're above it if you correct for viewer cull

>> No.16322103

>>16322057
So just another day without Gura streaming then

>> No.16322106

>>16322067
You do know sharky don't get big numbers from MH right?

>> No.16322108

>all of these very bizarre and nonsensical metrics for the past few weeks are clear signs of extreme fuckery from Youtube that seems to selectively impact some streams and channels more than others

>except for when they continue to happen to EN/ID before and after CCVID's rollout, in which case everything is just cultural differences and there's very little fuckery going on from Youtube

???

>> No.16322125

>>16322057
There's no way the tea party won't hit 10k

>> No.16322134

i dont know what you retards are talking about, MH currently has 20k culled watching, pretty solid for a beat-up game

>> No.16322147

>>16322057
Nah Mori With Fauna and Sana later is a 10K.

>> No.16322188

>>16322134
too bad capcom wont know

>> No.16322191

>>16322125
Mori's channel still has the CCVID...

>> No.16322231

>>16322134
>>16322067
latest ina Mh stream
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/gwbo9pGKTZY

it is doing ok. Still should have been 1 pov with their charatcers already created rather than all of them starting from zero

>> No.16322254

>>16322057
Fuck you pekofrog poster.

>> No.16322298

>>16322231
The timed character creation rush was actually pretty fun and an entertaining idea for a collab.

>> No.16322303

>>16322191
Every EN channel has it

>> No.16322319

WHERE IS THE SHARK I WANT TO SEE HER NUMBERS PLEASE

>> No.16322320

Why does Gura refuse to stream? Chumbuds could bitch about her cull hard enough to get noticed by yt and maybe get it fixed.

>> No.16322327

Maybe we should ask Youtube to uncull HoloEN completely.

>> No.16322329

>>16322188
Won't know what? Even if they take this CCV at face value this is pretty good for a sponsored stream, they're probably quite happy.

>> No.16322332

>>16322188
The channel owner gets the "correct" analytics later, so they can simply send a screenshot of that completely unverifiable number to their sponsors and there's no problem, right?

>> No.16322339

>>16321773
Monhun was a debuff for EN.
Huge buff for JP

>> No.16322342

>>16322188
They'll see extremely impressive engagement with the steam link compared to CCV. Cultural differences, you see...

>> No.16322345

>>16322298
i agree.
But still im looking to maximize numbers here

>> No.16322348

>>16322108
only schizos argue for your second quote anon

>> No.16322381

>>16322320
She always takes Monday and Tuesday off, and she's too nice to stream over a sponsored collab and steal all their numbers.

>> No.16322406

>>16322188
theyll pay for each's views, not separated or combined ccvs

>> No.16322420

>>16322339
What about ark?

>> No.16322430

>>16322108
CCVid is fixed my dude. Pekora hit 139k just last night. Americans simply don't watch streams, that's all.

>> No.16322458

>>16321308
this would be a great analogy if not for that
> Poor performers can get their show cancelled or worse, moved to the Friday afternoon slot. Others are hired for a short burst of audience before they recline.
> Talent come and go all for the benefit of the station, and all benefit when the station succeeds and rises up.
I don't think nijisanji ever put out people due to poor performance. You might say IN but the entire branch was doing bad.
Outside of that, I don't think people go in and out like that. Iiirc they had 25 graduations in all of the branches and 2 suspensions while having over 230 members including active and now graduated. It isn't much for the number of members, less than agencies like Re:act, 774 and others in comparison with all the members they have.

>> No.16322465

>>16322188
Im pretty sure they care about VODs and ina and Kronii will probably put out 200k each and maybe bae and sana can get 50k each (pushing it for sana). Anyways the clipnigs will clip this and get more views than the vods will anyways.

>> No.16322469

>>16322303
every en AUDIENCE* channel has it

>> No.16322554

>retards ITT still talking about sponsorships in terms of CCV
None of that matters because they can easily check the total views on the stream after it ends and know that that least a number of people watched it and make an assessment on whether it fulfilled their advertising goals or not.

>> No.16322594

>>16322465
>200k
nah 100k each assuming this last 2 hrs

>> No.16322610

>>16322057
Mysta will fix is later

>> No.16322617

>>16322108
Did Risu do another poll after CCVID is fixed?

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>> No.16322691

>>16322610
Mysta Genshit will hit 15K at least.

>> No.16322699

>>16322469
It's fucking weird, because Bae's stream the day of the fix was fine.
Like, 6k+ for a normal Zatsu and the graphs shows ez waiting room recovery.
I really fucking hope they didn't turn back on the shitty cull after unflagging everyone. That would be a very YT thing to do, to try and keep going with this dumb shit instead of compeltely scrapping it. >>16322469

>> No.16322709

>>16322640
>split POV for A Way Out of all games
What the hell were they thinking?

>> No.16322723

>>16322610
when will he start?

>> No.16322764

>>16322709
Money

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>>16322617
yh, this one>>16320911, which is the same as pic attached, but 5 minutes instead of 1 min
IDs are still royally fucked, ENs a bit less but still fucked. JPs little fucked.

>> No.16322766

Roboco 4k ark sugoi! All hail kouseinou!

>> No.16322785

>>16322617
She had 700 warching, and hit fucking 100% engagement in a minute.
Even before 2021 changes, that was NOT NORMAL.
>>16320911

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>>16322691
you guys are expecting too much

>> No.16322799

>>16322640
Damn, Ike and Luca are doing pretty good considering they are streaming on burger hours.

>> No.16322822

>>16322723
9am JST

>> No.16322854

Why sana got so many likes???

>> No.16322857

>>16322691
>15K at least
that's a bit of an overreach

>> No.16322865

>>16322699
Ok. Anecdotal evidence of course but shortly after seeing that CCV appeared to be fixed I tested if my account was unflagged and it appeared to be. Fast forward a few hours and I test it again, and I'm back to no longer counting as a viewer.

>> No.16322878

>>16322785
>Even before 2021 changes, that was NOT NORMAL
Do you have poll numbers before 2021 to compare?

>> No.16322905

>>16322822
????
It's at 11pm JST

>> No.16322921

Fauna closing to 5k. She doing well with overlap.

>> No.16322924
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Some EN numbers right now.. Manjisanji in full effect

>> No.16322925

>>16322640
damn i didnt realize it was that bad for the nijigirls.......

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>>16322057
no gura no 10k.. state of EN..

>> No.16322985

>>16322865
what did you do between those two tests?

>> No.16323003

>>16322924

>Finana sub 1k playing the most buffed Yakuza game

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16323006

>>16322610
>>16322691
>people used to meme about NijiEN not even being able to break 8k with the whole branch streaming
>now a single man breaks 10k with ease
How does he do it?

>> No.16323015

>>16322924
Pomu lost 300 viewers and Elira lost 500 viewers as the guys started playing.

>> No.16323046

>>16322691
What’s he doing? Pulling for Xiao?

>> No.16323048

>>16322691
10k is likely, but 15k will be hard.
First time Genshin isn't that big of a buff.

Speaking of Luxiem numbers, I find it hilarious that Shu streamed at JST times again and doubled his EN time numbers.

>> No.16323082

>>16323015
Finana lost 100 viewers and Millie lost 200 viewers.

>> No.16323090

>EN goes back to getting BTFO by JP superchat readings
>ENfags "NOOOOO We're still getting culled!"
lmao

>> No.16323095

>>16323048
voxx got 7k so it isnt that great.

>> No.16323109

>>16322765
"A thousand people just had their spidey sense activate when the poll opened, so they tuned in just long enough to vote and drop a like, then left. Nothing wrong here, Youtube is showing accurate numbers." -Nousagis

>> No.16323145

>>16323006
By being a numberfag and doing what gets big numbers. It really is that simple.

>> No.16323165

>>16323015
>as the guys started playing.
and holoen started at the same time

>> No.16323166

>>16323015
I switched from Pomu to Fauna.

>> No.16323178

>>16322985
Nothing? I think. No one I watch was on. At most I might've watched a few clips.

>> No.16323190

>>16323046
First time player.
Usually these are the biggest streams for Genshin.

>>16323095
Vox likely peaked for the near future with his Thirst Tweets stream.
I don't see him breaking 8.6k in a while.

>> No.16323248

>>16323090
>nooo it's perfectly normal for EN and only EN to get 100% poll engagement in minutes
t. last samurai

>> No.16323247

>>16322617
Mori also did a poll yesterday, it got 100% in 3 minutes, same time as before the the "fix"

>> No.16323314

>>16323006
>Actually knows his audience and streams at their primetime hours
Also I wouldn’t say he breaks 10k easily, easily would be like someone doing a playthrough and consistently getting 10k like Subaru with Yakuza. He just knows what his audience wants to watch and caters to them

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16323316

i think last samurai won cowboy bros...

>> No.16323346

>>16323248
Not him, but... maybe... just maybe... westerners need to stop adblocking YouTube so that they would start counting towards CCV.

>> No.16323356
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>> No.16323362

do we have numbers for IRyS new EP or is it forgotten like her covers?

>> No.16323383

It's so sad this thread went right back to trusting Susan's bullshit MINUTES after seeing her pull it to an undeniable level. Personally, I'm out, this is just a tribalfagging ground.

>> No.16323391

>>16323346
Adblockers is a cope among copes. If you seriously think it's the root of this severe a degree of CCV fuckery, I don't know what to say.

>> No.16323417

>>16323006
>So far has dodged any form of debuff content like a pro
>Streams in a time where his audience likes him (SEA/JST) and not during EN times (where all of Luxiem's numbers are much lower)
>He's really good at social media
Still early, but Mysta joins the long list of Nijimales who have more twitter followers than youtube subs.
https://twitter.com/mysta_rias?lang=en (176k followers/ 155k subs)
While we've seen some cases of twitter not translating into views, Mysta's twitter game is very strong for his follower size (almost all his tweets are 10k+ likes, which is better than many JP holomems with 800k+ followers)
He doesn't ghost his fans and disappear when he's not streaming, and that's helping him retain attention when he's not streaming.

>> No.16323420

>>16323383
Last Samurai are very insecure

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16323428

>>16323109
dont blame the schizo baitposter on nousagis, retard

>> No.16323443

>>16323346
Adblock accounts for 30% at best, we know from the polls that EN has at least 80% cull

>> No.16323459

>>16323190
That’s a 10k floor then. 15k isn’t impossible but it would probably take him spilling his spaghetti over Kaeya or Venti, and fujos going crazy about it on twitter

>> No.16323491

>>16323362
she's probably made at least $100k

>> No.16323493

>>16323346
even premium accounts get flagged by youtubes faulty ai

>> No.16323494

Youtube didn't actually fix CCVID, they just unflagged everyone while they fiddle with the algo to make it seem like its better and it'll continue to get worse over the next few weeks like before.

>> No.16323511

>>16323383
>this is just a tribalfagging ground.
how has it taken you this long to notice?

>> No.16323516

>>16323443
Do we have poll numbers before 2021 to compare?

>> No.16323523

Anons trying to keep EN down even though if they accepted that there is still CCVID around (which there obviously is), then Pekora would've been close to 150k...

>> No.16323530

>>16323459
>That’s a 10k floor then

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>16323090
>16323248
Imagine samefagging

>> No.16323569

>>16323443
>we know from the polls that EN has at least 80% cull
Kek one glance at VOD views already disproves this insane speculation

>> No.16323575

>>16323494
The difference is this time it won't get fixed because the JPs won't get seriously hit, just like last year.

>> No.16323585

>>16323491
I wanna know her revenue split. But it's probably way, way worse than normal Holo's original songs (do they even have to split their revenue for self-funded music?)

>> No.16323588

>>16320062
Cope

>> No.16323605

>>16323523
Nah, they will use "only JP that healed, EN still have CCVID" cope

>> No.16323608

>>16323248
>Get lower CCV than JP chuubas
>Get higher likes and comments
Kinda makes me wonder what the metric for "dead subs" is. EN is full of "dead subs" right? Is a dead sub someone that doesn't watch, or someone that watches but does nothing else?

>> No.16323624

>>16323417
Just like purple cunny,
YMD has 15K each streams.

>> No.16323632

>>16323417
>Still early, but Mysta joins the long list of Nijimales who have more twitter followers than youtube subs.
Only because Luxiem got like 40k of their subs culled.

>> No.16323670

>>16323624
Yup, Laplus's twitter game is fucking strong.
She gets Niji-tier engagement without a twitter topic and her spaces get 10k+ listeners all the time.

>> No.16323677

>>16323569
VODs are also culled. You can't seriously believe it's legit for a VOD to sit at 0 views while Youtube "processes".

>> No.16323702

>>16323569
>VOD views
Shut up retard
Views are unaffected, we are talking about live viewers

>> No.16323708

>>16322430
I hate you niggers so fucking much

>> No.16323714

damn, kornii and ina are too evenly matched on this collab. I wonder if the vod views will tell the same story later

>> No.16323761

>>16323670

Laplus has just too much charisma. No wonder her Zatsus are so strong, really good talker.

>> No.16323774

>>16323677
cull is disappearing with numbers. Taking more time to process them is not exactly culling.

>> No.16323789

is this disingenuous trolls on both sides, or are there some people in this thread legitimately trying to argue and not realising how retarded they're being?

>> No.16323788

>>16323708
Stop replying to bait you faggot

>> No.16323811

>>16323362
currently #8 in top albums on itunes, #5 on amazon music

>> No.16323834

>>16323789
>is this disingenuous trolls on both sides
that

>> No.16323849

>>16323789
Yes

>> No.16323863

>>16323677
>100k+ for an outfit reveal
>70k VOD when the stream ends
>"The views are processing"
Totally no potential cull going on here.

>> No.16323889

>>16323811
Jesas

>> No.16323913

>>16323702
I understand reading comprehension is hard so I'll explain it to you like you're an idiot.
If someone in EN with a 10k CCV is being culled 80%, then their VOD views should be close to a JP with 80% higher CCV, which is not the case at all.
Bae/Fauna/Kiara's VODs are not the VODs of someone with a 10k+ CCV.

>> No.16323916

>>16323789
>trolls on both sides
it is one single troll as usual, hes probably that one retard on hlgg who got banned twice today

>> No.16323960

>>16323774
It's still culling "low quality" views, which is also bugged.

>> No.16323964

>>16323493
I never disputed that (and was in fact one of the flagged users). I decided that I was going to whitelist YouTube and signed up for premium and I started counting towards CCV after about 1 week (one day after the CCV started being restored) of watching streams and videos like I ususally do (I normally don't even use HoloDex for streams).

>> No.16323967

>>16323789
It's like 3 people that keep replying to themselves.

>> No.16323986

>>16323863
Please don't numberfag if you're this fucking retarded.
It makes us all look bad.

>> No.16323994

>>16323677
WE don't mind views taking some time to process because we can check them later but that's not the case with the CCV

>> No.16323997

So do you guys think mysta will surpass kanae

>> No.16324034

>>16323916
Does he do "nobody watches EN and everything is accurate" and "EN gets culled by 250%" flavours at the same time? I suppose there is no reason why not

>> No.16324059

>>16323997
No, but surely surpass council

>> No.16324099

>>16323997

maybe in another timeline

>> No.16324118

>>16323994
Except VOD views gets culled. We already saw this live after sportsfest. We saw this with pekora, we saw this on council and holox debut. We saw this on summerfest.

>> No.16324158

>>16323997
Kanae has been an 11k rock for Niji for years now, with very high peak potential.
Right now, Mysta is like 7k median I think that has broken 10k twice lol.
He's still 20k subs behind Vox despite better CCV and VODs btw.

>> No.16324162

>>16324059
Gura/Mysta will become the Peko/Kuzuha of the west

>> No.16324165

ENfags sure are salty that numbers got fixed and EN is once again exposed as an underperforming branch aren't they

>> No.16324168

>>16324118
22.5k among all POV watching the sponsored collab as they start their first hunt.

>> No.16324182

picture this scenario
the 2020 cull gets fixed and gura comes back to being a 40k streamer
mysta keeps inclining and beats kuzuha
suddenly for both holo and niji their biggest streamer is an EN
how do nips react

>> No.16324184

>>16323960
Anon, we have at least one screenshot of a chuuba's analytics, where the VOD went down significantly, but CCV went up slightly and the total watch time went up significantly. YouTube may not be trustworthy with their visible numbers, but at the very least we should understand that they aren't doing anything malicious if their most important metric (watch time) is overall improving.

>> No.16324192

>>16323994
No, you can't, the views are removed for being "low quality". Legit views, subs, and CCV are all culled by 50%+.

>> No.16324239

>>16324118
That's normal and happens to every video on youtube with lots of views in a short timeframe.
It happens to Niji VODs too all the time.
It's just youtube doing bookkeeping to authenticate views.

>> No.16324261

>>16324034
no but he was doxxposting, hating on council, sometimes falseflagging as councilposters, posting about nijis, shitting on gura, calling ens lazy, and suggesting cull not to be real, besides of course replying to himself half the time. A true mental illness case.

>> No.16324262

>>16324182

>> No.16324274

>>16324118
>we can't use this number because something
>we can't use that number because something
Maybe just skip the numbers and go to straight shitpostings instead

>> No.16324342

>>16324182
Like they did back in 2020
"As expected, there are many more English speakers than Japanese speakers."

>> No.16324358

>>16324118
That's always how Youtube has worked. Newfags need to lurk.

>> No.16324376

>>16324274
We can't numberfag until Youtube reports numbers correctly.

>> No.16324383

>>16324182
Hololive fans will be ok with it because same-chan cute!

Nijisanji fans will hate brigade all of EN until they graduate.

>> No.16324421

>>16324182
They would simply "as expected of" because they at least know that there's more people who speak English and would watch EN streamers than there are those that speak Japanese. Common sense hasn't died there yet.

>> No.16324509

>>16324383
>Nijisanji fans will hate brigade all of EN until they graduate.
I was going to laugh at you until I remembered that they still shit on Hololive's success for being due to foreigners

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>>16324376

>> No.16324615

>>16324342
>>16324421
Except vtubing is mainstream in Japan and a niche everywhere else, EN vtubers getting higher numbers simply show that they are much better entertainers to overcome that handicap.

>> No.16324660

>>16324509
That's not even true anymore anyway. Hololice massively outsold Niji at Comiket

>> No.16324681

>>16323913
Huh i didnt realize but Fuana's vod game is actually pretty good, a few under 100k vods but majority are over 100k and she does have 200/300k ones to compensate for the few lower ones. Dont think she belongs with Baelz and sana who have more under 100k vods than over.

>> No.16324695

>>16323789
en fans are too lazy to do anything about their cull, at least jp side is autistic enough to complain about it.
i have no sympathy with the lazy

>> No.16324713

>>16323789
>on both sides
Nah it's just one faggot samefagging with multiple device

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>>16324681
Yeah, I posted this yesterday.
She's kinda boosted by ASMR streams doing well (200-300k), but it's baffling to me when people try to push Bae is doing better when it's not really close.
Her VODs are trending a bit lower recently so she needs to start streaming more or else people will forget about her.

Sana's VODs are just hard carried by doing 11 hour streams.
To no one's surprise, Kronii and Mumei are very solid for VODs, with Kronii matching many mid-high tier HoloJPs.

>> No.16324851

>>16324681
Her gaming views is pretty impressive but her asmr stream views is pretty disappointing imo.

Since we are talking about vod views im impressed with rushia's vod views.

>> No.16324901

>>16323913
Koyori - Ark
4h20m
11.3k viewers
171k views (5h ago)

Mori - Drawing
2h40m
7.7k viewers
180k views (8h ago)

The stream was 40% shorter and had 30% less viewers
I don't agree with a 80% cull, I think that it's too much but HoloEN still is being culled by a considerable amount

>> No.16324922

>>16324660
>Nijisanji fans
Did I mention Niji fans buying comiket merch? I was replying to a post talking about the reactions of the respective fanbases. I'm sure nips at large wont care. They like Hololive more than Niji even in Japan these days, I know.

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>>16324851
Fauna has a 1 ASMR that's close to 1 mil views and a few are doing pretty good.
I think she just does way too many ASMR streams and saturation is ruining her recent ones' numbers.

>im impressed with rushia's vod views.
Rushia is flat out inclining recently.
During CCVID, she was getting Marine-tier VODs and her short videos do very well.

>> No.16325084

>>16324901
How many likes and unique chatters? We need to put together a last samurai cope list.

>> No.16325095

>>16324901
Yeah, this is fucking blatant. Looks like the job isn't done yet. Need to keep hounding youtube on twitter.

>> No.16325119

>>16324842
the thing with bae is that she hasnt had a good stream in a while at a decetn time. Her minecraft carries her farther than fauna but everything last month was mario kart at 5am or really short streams. but when she gets a nice slot alone she outperforms fauna.

>> No.16325143

>>16321916
...and bigger than Sana, too.

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>>16323913
>15k viewers 8k likes
>7k viewers 18k likes
>last samurai: "n-no EN isn't being culled heavily everything is okay we must trust holy Susan's CCV"
cope

>> No.16325210

>>16324615
Even if 10% of all English speakers in the world are into anime and its adjacent fields, that's still more than 125 million people that speak English. Even if all of Japan's population was watch it, if all of the English speakers decided to group up, they'd still beat Japan's entire population. And that is just with a small fraction of the potential population.

Heck, Gura proves this statistical difference and she's not even a peak performance entertainer.

>> No.16325267

>>16325210
>t-there's just more EN viewers despite it being a super niche interest in EN
This is going on the last samurai cope list

>> No.16325286
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Listen to this singing voice "How Far Ill Go"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRCBbWSoBn4

What are the chances she ends up in HoloEN3 or NijiEN Wave 5? Is Niji going to hire females for English?

Are her numbers not good enough to be hired?

>> No.16325284

>>16324901
I took the screenshot for the poll of this stream where she got 10k votes in 10 mins.
It's one of the worst cullings we've seen since the CCVID fix, but it's sadly on par with post-2020 cull bullshit.

You can compare it with Mysta's cooking simulator stream too to see more BS.
>Mysta - cooking simulator
>3h14m
>13k peak
>174k views
>1 day ago

Claiming 80% cull at all times is just insanity.

>> No.16325349

>>16325067
>rushia

I think this happens when a talent doesn't stream every day. Lots of fans either catch up or repeatedly watch the vod. I think this only applies to popular members.

>> No.16325354

>>16324681
fauna is gamer of council and people don't realise it

>> No.16325407

>>16325145
go and show that to yt's twiiter

>> No.16325418

>>16325284
>ignoring that Myth has inclined since 2020
if they're still keeping their post-2020 cull numbers it means the cull on them has increased

>> No.16325434

>>16325267
>get taught basic demographics and statistics
>prove it using simple numbers
>"C-COEP!! LAST SAMURAI CRY MORE"
Who are these retards?

>> No.16325483

Looking at vtubers, I think traditional youtubers need to stream more to get better CCV and ad rates to be successful. Their VOD views don't matter much anymore.

>> No.16325490

>>16325084
Likes at end of the stream
Mori 16.8k
Koyori 10k (8.4k at 2h40m)

Unique chatters
Mori 4,909
Koyori 2,077

>> No.16325506

>>16325434
Your basic demographics is shit and wrong, you're not going to get 10% of any western population interested in anime and even less of that in vtubers

>> No.16325527

>>16325286
>What are the chances she ends up in HoloEN3
previous life number isn't that important for hololive. I think cover looks for girls that bring something unique to the table.

>> No.16325568

>>16325286

I like her voice, thank you for the shilling, anon

>> No.16325579

>>16325418
>Myth has inclined since 2020
How do you know that with bullshit number that Youtube released?

>> No.16325612

>>16325284
Mysta's VOD goy culled dumbass. Realistically, with people watching the VOD, it should be at least at 250-300k views.

>> No.16325617

>>16325286
Number don't mean shit if HoloJP is concerned, they've hired people that averaged less than 15 on twitch. HoloEN isn't great at scouting since they hired people who barely cared and didn't have much numbers to begin with outside of Mumei and Fauna, and Mumei was dead sub city with an 80 average on twitch.

I think NijiEN has plenty of females and I don't see them expanding any time soon.

>> No.16325669

>>16325579
>still mogging everyone in sub growth
>sold out merch every time
>lines around the block just to queue in for their convention panels
You tell me, retard

>> No.16325683

>>16325418
HoloEN was the hottest shit in Nov-Dec 2020.
It's completely believable that they have stagnated or even reclined since then.
This is consistent with them getting lower VOD views these days than a year ago.

>> No.16325692

>>16325527
HoloJP doesn't but HoloEN does.

>>16325669
>>sold out merch every time
That happens to everyone in hololive, short bus.

>> No.16325728

>>16325506
>you're not going to get 10% of any western population interested in anime and even less of that in vtubers
Then why is Gura the most popular VTuber in the world?
Why are the HoloEN girls among the top streamers in the world?
Why are Nijimales still on the upside potential?
Could it have something to with... you know... them speaking a language that's more or less used for business all over the world?

>> No.16325770

>>16325145
What are the VOD numbers for these two?

>> No.16325792

>>16325286
If she does try to join holoEN i hope she doesnt use her react to videos in her audition because she has a lot. She does have a nice singing voice and if she has another talent she is might make it.

>> No.16325795

>>16325669
>still mogging everyone in sub growth
Subs have nothing to do with CCV.
Kiara's views are now half of what they were in 2020 but she has more subs now than ever.

>sold out merch every time
Happens to most Holos. Myth is popular for merch, but that's not proof of viewership incline.

>lines around the block just to queue in for their convention panels
Literally happens at every Holo event.

>> No.16325801

>>16325728
>Why are the HoloEN girls among the top streamers in the world?
You're fucking delusional to the point where I think you're a HoloEN anti pretending.

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>136,082 viewers
>8942 unique chatters
>64k likes

vs

>7,865 viewers
>4909 unique chatters
>18k likes

If Mori was a holoJP she would have had at least 30k CCV for that stream

>> No.16325882

>>16325728
most popular VTuber in the world =/= most watched VTuber in the world

>> No.16325887

>>16325795
>most
All. Even Aki sold out that perfume after a week. If they're in hololive their merch sells out almost instantly.

>> No.16325896

>>16325770
Fubuki is at 197k.
Mori is at 181k.
Mori got culled hard for this stream, but we already knew that from her poll at 20 mins into the stream.

>> No.16325899

>>16325490
Golly jeepers, EN sure is getting mogged. All of those dead subs am I right?

>> No.16326016

>>16325870
You're retarded if you think a 2h40m, 180k view VOD had 30k CCV.
30k CCV for 2 hours is 250-300k range, like a Gura VOD.

>> No.16326028

>>16325692
No one has ever forced Good Smile to reprint their nendo line besides Gura, it's not even a close competition
>>16325728
Because they're more entertaining and talented.
>>16325795
>Subs have nothing to do with CCV
Because CCV is culled, genius, think.

>> No.16326049

>>16320820
why

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CCV to VOD views is tricky imo.

>> No.16326078

I doubt anything will be done about the EN cull. You would need someone like Ludwig or PewDiePie to complain about it.

>> No.16326082

>>16326016
>using Gura as an example
>when we know Gura was culled far more heavily than Mori even back in Dec 2020
>inadvertently proving Gura is actually a 50k-60k streamer
K E K
E
K

>> No.16326098

>>16326028
>Because CCV is culled, genius, think.
Retard.
Matsuri has 1.2 mil subs.
Sora has 900k subs.
Roboco has 800k subs.
Subs have nothing to do with viewership.

>> No.16326115

>>16326028
Ai Kizuna is culled? Pewdiepie is culled?

>> No.16326127

>>16326078
i'll just keep complaining to twitter. can't hurt to try, i'm on hopium rn.

>> No.16326188

>>16326127
Well, good luck then

>> No.16326203

>>16326078

>I doubt anything will be done about the EN cull.

if people would be more vocal about outside of here but we get timeloops instead

>> No.16326214

>>16326028
>No one has ever forced Good Smile to reprint their nendo line besides Gura, it's not even a close competition
Selling out happens to everyone in HoloPro. Gura is popular but the entire branch isn't 11 Guras.

>> No.16326224

>>16326066
Yes it's stupid to compare especially between JP and EN, when we know EN has more people coming and going during streams. Even amongst different vtubers within the same division there can be a big difference, and also different content will be different.

>> No.16326248

>>16326098
>listing a bunch of has-beens
Sure, let's leave out the context that the only reason they have lots of subs is because they rode the Myth wave. Myth's subs watch Myth but they don't watch holoJP even if they're subbed because they're babbling in moon language instead of something understandable

>> No.16326254

>>16326098
Yeah, but matsuri gets like over 3x the number of likes to peak viewers every stream.

>> No.16326259

Spicschizo at it yet again I see. Nope, can't have a civil discussion, gotta call each other names and prove that your anime girl is the superior one out of the company
Someone force him to do percentages properly already

>> No.16326258

>>16325870
You are exaggerating things too much. She got culled but that stream was not more than 11k to 13k viewers

>> No.16326285

>>16326203
Have Ludwig and PewDiePie done polls on stream?
You could probably compare those with polls done by HoloEN.

>> No.16326350

>>16326285
Ludwig has done polls. He recently did one where he practically begged everyone to vote, and still could not reach the participation levels that HoloEN gets in theirs. iirc his vote participation was like 60% compared to the 100%+ we always see from EN

>> No.16326359

>>16326248
>HoloJP subs are unloyal
>Myth subs are loyal
Do you really believe that? What's the chance of Myth subs actually just subs for hype then they leave to another hype

>> No.16326364

>>16326258
>Koyori unique chatters to viewers ratio = 3k to 11k = 3.6x
Mori's 7k viewers multipled by 3.6x = 25200 at minimum

>> No.16326402

>>16326078
The biggest problem with the CCV cullis that the west has a large userbase that watch on desktops with adblock on. Until you can get those people off of adblock, YouTube will not stop discounting their views live.

>> No.16326404

>>16326359
>hype subs
>when they frequently get more than 100% poll engagement within minutes while JP can't under normal circumstances
DYRBI

>> No.16326421

>>16326359
Considering Myth has double the engagement that JP does, I'd say they're pretty loyal.

>> No.16326472

>HoloEN is gett-
Don't care, real numbers are back.
>b-but
Still don't care.
>see look at
9 of 11 are failures including the entirety of council. I'm not taking the branch seriously.

>> No.16326477

>>16326404
>when they frequently get more than 100% poll engagement within minutes while JP can't under normal circumstances
Do you have poll numbers before 2021 cull or even better poll numbers before 2020 cull to compare?

>> No.16326488

>new Ark arc
>boosted numbers all around
>even Roboco and Choco are getting 4K-6K viewers every stream
>Nene and Watame haven't touched the game and prefer to stream garbage shit like 3D Mario/Mario Kart/Pokemon/APEX

why?

>> No.16326517

>>16326364
Is this supposed to be a valid metric by any means? DYRB that YouTube hates HoloEN specifically so much that they're culling that much from them?
>>16326488
ARK is garbage.

>> No.16326520

>>16326488
Because maybe they don't want to. Not everything is numbers.

>> No.16326560

>>16326517
>DYRB that YouTube hates HoloEN specifically so much that they're culling that much from them?
Yes. There is a targeted campaign against HoloMyth in particular(not Council) for getting too popular on their platform.

>> No.16326564

Actual corrected average CCV for HoloEN tier list
Gura - 40k
Mori - 30k
Ina - 20k
Ame - 15k
Kiara - 10k

IRyS - 20k

Kronii - 30k
Mumei - 30k
Fauna - 20k
Bae - 15k
Sana - 8k

>> No.16326563

>>16326517
>>16326520
this is the numbers thread, faggots

>> No.16326576

>>16326488

Watame already talked about with Polka about playing Ark on stream. Nene said she is never doing it, probably just not her thing

>> No.16326596

>>16326564
Omega - 100k

>> No.16326607

>>16326560
Proof?
>>16326564
What's the formula to count that?

>> No.16326611

>>16326477
Youtube polls didn't exist in 2020, it's a relatively recent feature.

>> No.16326619

please, don't respond to bait
thank you

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Today's superchats

>> No.16326639

>>16326477
It's been proven numerous times that HoloEN gets huge poll engagement and likes throughout 2021, do your archive reps

>> No.16326667

>>16326611
I forgot about that. Somehow I thought it's already existed a long time ago

>> No.16326671

>>16326364
That's beyond being retarded

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>>16326624
nice peko-chan!

>> No.16326699

>>16326624
Lui, my cute hag wife...

>> No.16326702

>>16326607
>>16326607
>Proof?
Read the thread.

>> No.16326729

>>16326564
why are teacucks like this?

>> No.16326745

>>16326607
Delusion basically.

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>>16326016
A demonstration, 33.5k peak for Shuba.

>> No.16326794

>this thread is proof
I... I'm wordless.

>> No.16326802

>Read the thread
>Do your archive reps
He is truly arguing in bad faith

>> No.16326812

when will vtubers adapt the ludwig method of member farming?

>> No.16326824

>>16326624
koyo still going pretty strong huh, the pink lamy memes were real after all

>> No.16326842

>>16326812
what method?

>> No.16326845

>>16326214
>but the entire branch isn't 11 Guras
How new?

>> No.16326862

>>16326671
What's the alternative, there were more unique chatters for Mori because it was a drawing + talking stream while Koyori's CCV numbers were buffed by ARK tourists who don't chat?

>> No.16326893

>>16326842
hes buying someone a meme pizza, but only for members
like 100 people subbed

>> No.16326899

>>16326576
Based Nene not selling her soul to the ARK devil...even tho she has played it before.

>> No.16326938

>>16326214
Of course the entire branch isn't 11 Guras.
It's 11 Sanas

>> No.16326940

>>16326520
Well so much for Nene subs depression arc huh

>> No.16326972

>>16326940
It's not impossible to learn a lesson.

>> No.16326982

>>16326862
well yeah anon, there's a reason why unique chatters is kind of a meme measure, it's influenced by way too many variables to be a reliable measure, starting by type of stream and streamer culture, for stating the most obvious ones

>> No.16326984

>>16326862
JPs just don't chat much in general.
Might be interesting to look at Bae/Fauna's unique chatters vs Chloe/Koyori to test this.

>> No.16327005

>>16326862
You don't know anything about what would possibly influence the amount of unique chatters and yet you're using it as the absolute baseline to multiply CCV resulting in a even more ridiculous result. You're aware that you're suggesting a 72% cull right?

>> No.16327007

>>16326624
>Kiara 1k+ in less than 5 minutes
I understand Mori attracting akasupas and stuff because of her music...but Kiara? Why?

>> No.16327017

>>16326624
>9 holos on the top 10

>> No.16327047

correct me if i'm wrong, but does it seem that nijiEN are slowing down on outside collabs? they used to have at least one indie collab, but now i don't see it anymore. They also never collab with nijiID now.

>> No.16327096

>>16327047
The start building the box, trust the plan

>> No.16327105

>>16326893
I think that baiting members with a 3d encore right after a live concert is a better option for holos

>> No.16327134

>>16327047
it happens to literally every unit as the number of members increases, not only is smart from a business perspective to keep viewers inside of a box, but it's also way easier to set up and you have a lot of choice even in your own group

>> No.16327140

>>16326899

Tbf what she said about was more like 'I wonder if I can do it' but that in Nene language it means that she is not interested enough

>> No.16327151

>>16324059
He already did

>> No.16327176

>>16327047
>>16327096
They're done leeching from outsiders, now they're leeching off of Mysta

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>>16326758
Come on CCV to vod is different from every talent. Comparing it like this is not reliable. Just look at this.

>> No.16327211

>>16327047
Perhaps the others but not Selen, she is still pushing outside collabs like a motherfucker

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>>16326824
Proof that monetization streams don't always correlate with long-term results, she got "only" $34k compared to cunny and samurai both other 50k, but then she overtook Laplus before the end of the year and she's even slight ahead of Iroha for January so far

>> No.16327250

>>16325612
Wtf? Did he get 300k and then he lost it? Otherwise it's cope

>> No.16327260

>>16327047
Don't know enough about NijiEN to see the overall picture of I see Selen is collabing with rpr in 6 hours.

>> No.16327264

>>16327176
Good point there aren't any decent outsiders for them to leech off on other than VShojo and 3DPD streamers

>> No.16327292

>>16327201
True, but the point is Mori didn't get 30k for her drawing stream with 180k VOD views.

>> No.16327295

>>16326624
Does anybody still track nijiEN girls SCs? they used to chart from time to time but i never see them anymore these days.

>> No.16327296

>>16327151
Now I'm curious if his numbers will still inclining, reclining or stay the same

>> No.16327301

>>16326564
>>16326607
>What's the formula to count that?
Not that guy, but I did notice a certain correlation between CCV and VOD, but I don't know if it tracks or scales in any realistic manner given the demographics involved.

Essentially, for every 1,000 average CCV, you may have somewhere around 5,000~10,000 total views on streams that are between 90~180 minutes in length.
Shorter streams seem to follow lower number than that.

>> No.16327311

>>16325612
sad cope

>> No.16327325

>>16326984
>JPs just don't chat much in general.
So JPs don't chat, like, or subscribe as much? Is there any source for all these "cultural differences" beyond the numbers (which have an obvious other possible explanation)?

>> No.16327375

>>16326563
It's the numbers thread, but that doesn't mean content creators have that as their main priority and explaining why someone isn't doing something is a legitimate response, retard.

>> No.16327388

>>16327264
the problem is they stopped playing with vhojo too. Which is weird considering the latter do collabs every other day.

>> No.16327447

>>16327388
I don't think they ever did 1 on 1 collabs with them did they?
They generally joined the big streamer collabs as extras.

>> No.16327466

>>16327325
Well Nijis and Jun are the biggest examples right?
Kuzuha's chat is slower than even Ame's chat despite having 2x the viewers and Jun has 80k viewers but less likes and subs than a lot of Holos.

>> No.16327483

>>16327295
birthdays and milestones runnning out

>> No.16327537

>>16327466
Jun is a bit of a special case imo. But you're right Kuzuha and many others are good examples.

>> No.16327545

>>16327201
anon, its just a demonstration of ballpark statements not some accurate depiction of extrapolated information. Lots of things determine what vod views a stream ends up at.

>> No.16327608

>>16327325
It's an animation channel but the logic should still apply.

https://youtu.be/3oBJb39oqUs
1.7 million views 35k likes 1k comments
Exact same thing with English subs
https://youtu.be/o25TeyIK_ng
1.6 million views 87k likes 1.8k comments

>> No.16327637

VOD views for sponsors right after collab ended:
47,169 - Kronii
41,624 - Ina
36,651 - Bae
27,362 - Sana
>>16327007
If you can get past hating her voice, Kiara is in a weird way, GFE. Compared to most vtubers, she acts like a normie girl outside of her love of idols.

>> No.16327648

>>16327388
TTS dragon poisoned the well.
>>16327608
Oh, actual evidence. A banner day in this thread.

>> No.16327680

>>16327537
>But you're right Kuzuha and many others are good examples
If we're trying to test the theory that JP vtuber fans for some reason engage less than Western ones (with the counter theory being that ENs have way higher CCVs than are being shown), I don't see how Kuzuha having less engagement for his CCV than ENs does proves anything one way or another. That's just consistent with how it works in Hololive

>> No.16327687

>>16327466
>>16327537
>>16327608
All this means is that the actual EN viewership is culled across the board, not just in hololive channels

>> No.16327693

>>16327648
There is no good collab organizer in EN vtubers scene

>> No.16327712

>>16327637
Way too early for VODs to tell us anything useful, but thanks for the effort.
I think Kronii is going to mog Ina's VOD despite having similar CCV.

>> No.16327733
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>>16327693
we need a EN Towa

>> No.16327738

>>16327637
korni and ina will end with 90k-100k
bae and sana will end with 70k and 50k probably

>> No.16327751

>>16327687
>holy reach

>> No.16327780

>>16327608
To add to this the EN channel has more subs than the JP channel despite being created 3 weeks later. Probably doesn't mean a lot though

>> No.16327783

>>16327637
>47,169 - Kronii
>41,624 - Ina
>36,651 - Bae
>27,362 - Sana
Wait a bit for the tally to go up.

Still, that looks in line with their ccv. It'd imply the average Sana watcher watched 20 minutes of her stream, which is actually great retention.

>> No.16327787

>>16327680
This is pretty conclusive... >>16327608
If you can't accept it then that's on you.

>> No.16327817

So how many EN schizos are here rn?

>> No.16327822

>>16327687
and yt will never change that since it means allowing adblock users

>> No.16327839

>>16327787
>One data point
>Conclusive
It's evidence, but it's not "conclusive". There are plenty of possible explanations (for instance, English viewers liking the stream more because they don't usually get to enjoy these moments on the streams themselves). More data points would get that a lot closer to conclusive though

>> No.16327860

>>16327712
>>16327783
I'm aware it's early. Just posting a reference for when the VOD views start getting verified.

>> No.16327868

>>16327466
EN chat is 90% emote spam. That's why. Kuzuha's chat doesn't spam emotes.

>> No.16327928
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>>16327868

>> No.16327957

>>16327466
The logical explanation is that Ame has more viewers than Kuzuha in reality, not making up some "culture" cope about JPs not engaging as much

>> No.16327971

FACT - 675k
My song - 581k
天使のagape - 478k

>> No.16328012

>>16327466
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rejjvxXcE9s 16k likes 32k peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1W-bwxIGFs 157k likes 350k peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMfSSZ_Utc0 139k likes 380k peak (420k actual)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK90W6bYC9c 10k likes 36k peak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNl8HrD_Phc 16k likes 38k peak
>>16327687
no its just idolshit.

>> No.16328026

>>16327971
when will pegor's new song release?

>> No.16328035

Roboco 5k. Kneel.

>> No.16328102

>>16323362
None yet until Oricon anon posts his weekly numbers but I'm expecting somewhere around 300-800 digital JP sales as of now (based on Ototoy yearly sales chart)

>> No.16328106

>>16327971
link to your song?

>> No.16328112

>>16328026
It already has on Spotify etc., when/if it'll be on her channel who knows

>> No.16328126

>>16328035
I KNEEL ROBOCO SAMA

>> No.16328128

>>16326564
Ogey

>> No.16328134

My fellow Deadbeat, stop shitting the thread with your delusions about Mori getting 30k with a DRAWING stream in the JP PRIME TIME while overlapping with +10 HoloJP members

>> No.16328136

HoloEN is really terrible at delivering sponsorships streams today's collab god awefull no wonder none of them broke 10k.

>> No.16328170
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>>16328026
It's been released yesterday. No idea when she will put it on her channel though, it only available on her Topic for now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVOMj4x2VVg

>> No.16328198

>>16328134
why can't they at least be reasonable, like they could perfectly argue it was a 10k stream but they go "no, actually it was a 30k stream"

>> No.16328202

>>16327839
Alright, here's another one. Views are significantly different though so take it with a grain of salt

https://youtu.be/1NNWbmiwLfI
1.9 million views 125k likes 1.8k comments
Same thing with Japanese subs
https://youtu.be/vohHKcvZWTI
859k views 33k likes 800 comments
Higher like ratio for EN but this time very similar comment ratio.
Mini conclusion, EN is more likely to click like and comments are inconsistent.

>> No.16328224

>>16328134
Not 30k anybody who believes that is a moron and anybody who takes those shitposter seriously are morons too.

10k-12k probably

>> No.16328234

>>16328198
Because they were arguing in bad faith

>> No.16328266
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16328266

I just noticed that if you purchase IRyS' EP from Mora, you can get a special message from her.

>> No.16328283

>>16328170
isn't IRyS's new EP weirdly popular? there's no indication that it will be well received after that crappy song a few weeks ago.

>> No.16328311

Luck 4K
Ike 3K
Holobro I dont feel so good...
Cover needs ENgamers...

>> No.16328323
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16328323

>low tier Luxiems mogging Council outside of their buffed timezones

>> No.16328326

>>16327839
>for instance, English viewers liking the stream more because they don't usually get to enjoy these moments on the streams themselves
Here's an EN animation from the same channel, massively higher ratio of likes on the English version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NNWbmiwLfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohHKcvZWTI
Westerners have been psychologically conditioned for years to "like, comment and subscribe" every time we watched a YT video, it's no surprise the engagement is so high

>> No.16328350

alright which of you fags posted my screenshot to reddit

>> No.16328372

>>16328266
h-hot

>> No.16328375

>>16328350
Which one?

>> No.16328389

>>16328323
100 viewer difference is a pretty funny definition of mogging
cute midgets tho

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16328397

>>16328311
>>16328323

>> No.16328398

>>16328136
I mean that’s what happens when the content was literally just Bae trying to kill a monster while the rest just chill in the background

>> No.16328423

>>16328350
Link?

>> No.16328435

>>16328323
Why is Council so garbage

>> No.16328448

>>16328323
>mogging council
no Kronii pic ?

*mogging Sana

>> No.16328459

>>16328423
>>16328375
https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/s2ijg6/looks_like_there_are_still_some_problems_going_on/

>> No.16328460

>>16328311
They're at the end of the game so this is the most popular part.
Still pretty good numbers for a pointless split POV.

>> No.16328471

>>16328102
that's not a lot, shit her future projects depends on this

>> No.16328488

>>16328323
>>16328311
they were getting mogged all the voerlap tough. they needed all of holoen to stop streaming to surprass them

>> No.16328492

>>16328311
>>16328323
Good council deserves it for taking things too lightly I would say Niji en should even mogg Holo EN as a whole. All of them have become lazy and complacent I'll excuse Irys since she actually has a medical condition which prevents from streaming consistently.

>> No.16328517

>>16328459
>half
Fucking Reddit.

>> No.16328526
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16328526

Suisei's album is displayed together with Yoasobi, Lisa, Utada Hikaru, Higedan, and Ado kek.

>>16328283
Well turns out you can't judge her from just that one song. Both her EP sold pretty well.

>> No.16328528

>>16328435
They hate streaming.That it.

>> No.16328550

>>16328459
> matsuri specially seems to be hit pretty hard having almost thrice her viewership in likes
Why are people so retarded...

>> No.16328552

>>16328448
*mogging the infamous predebut gura killer

>> No.16328568

>>16328488
You think HoloEN viewers watch Luxiem? Lol

>> No.16328581

>a 100 viewer difference after they stopped streaming is a mogging now
>kronii is cut off the picture

jesus man, are we biting everything today
also stop responding to yourself, you make it too obvious

>> No.16328585

>>16328323
>2hr and a half with 4.4k peak
>50k views after 12 hrs

>hakoz 4.3k peak with overlap and almost same time
>48k views right now and still dequeueing
So how many views are luka and ike gonna have?

>> No.16328606

>>16328526

Eve, King Gnu and Official髭男dism as well

>> No.16328671

>>16328581
I do think people respond to themselves when they post bait and no one responds.
There's no way people are this stupid right?
He didn't even crop out the ranking so you know Shu is only 5th lmao.

>> No.16328685

>>16328471
Don't forget Oricon numbers does not track overseas sales and holostore orders, she'll get by just fine

>> No.16328688

>>16328581
Kronii is the strongest Council. Little unfair to compare her to weak Luxiem members, don't you think? She should be compared with Mysta.

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16328707

1M get and wow shark birth is actually going to 1M too

>> No.16328763

>>16325490
en just have a different audience. their average watch time is 5mins vs jp's 10mins and average en chatter only drops 6 lines in chat vs jp chatter's 10 lines. /s

>> No.16328797

I used incognito to search for both Holo and Niji clips separately, what I have found is that the amount of clips for NijiEN is still somewhat low, even with the popular NijiEN males. On Holo side, Council still have a good amount of clips, with some standouts with pver 300k views.

Do you think NijiEN clips will pick up steam soon?

>> No.16328819

>>16328688
what, you want to compare how many streams over 10k they have? or how many subs they have

>> No.16328864

>>16328471
If AZKI has 20 singles and her music sells even worse than Irys, Irys will be fine.
She needs covers to boost up her channel's popularity first tho.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HZ9gAiIoAw
Her crossfade only having 59k views is bad.

>> No.16328868

>>16328819
I'll wait until Mysta streams Genshin to compare them.

>> No.16328892

>>16328102
Oricon weekly stats go up every Tuesday.
IRyS was telling people to buy the song through Mora so it was surprising to see she hit #7 on itunes US album ranking.

>> No.16328895

>>16328797
No

>> No.16328909

>>16328868
Why don't you just wait till the end of Jan and compare their monthly median instead of overreacting to daily streams?

>> No.16328920

>>16328550
I hate niggers like you so much

>> No.16328947

>>16328868
>comparing a first time game buff versus a 4 pov sponsor of a debuff game
>comparing individual days
yeah dude, that'll go great and it won't be retarded at all, you're so smart

>> No.16328963

>>16328920
>t. carso150

>> No.16328964
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>>16328471
She'll be fine.

>> No.16328971
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>>16328688
compare with Fauna then. 4 Coucil overlap at the same time.

>> No.16329005

>>16328920
Numbers not feelings.
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/52QvreBE96Y
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/v6ZVWS5s7zs

>> No.16329009

>>16328797
Unless Mysta duets King with Kuzuha on a deserted island while playing APEX, then no.

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>>16328892
It was #1 in Mora yesterday but dropped to 2nd today. In Ototoy it's still #1

>> No.16329032

>>16328688
Cant play genshin is not a problem,
but laziness is hurting Council's number.
Also HoloEN needs more game permissions.
They should let mumei play civ,
kronii plays league.

>> No.16329044

so what's the views to likes ratio on the nijiEN males? are they getting fucked up too?

>> No.16329091

>>16329009
Why though? There should be more clips of Mysta right now due to how popular he is.

>> No.16329095

>>16329032
was cover unable to get permission for civ? rumao

>> No.16329096

>>16329044
Either 1:1 or lower most of the time.
It's not as bad as HoloEN and NijiEN where 1:2 and 1:3 is pretty common.

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16329123

>>16328892 (me)
Also I noticed Siliconera (game news site?) has taken a liking to Hololive since they basically shill them now.

>> No.16329143

>>16329032
>league
lmao no. League is numbers poison for vtubers. Kuzuha can't even get 15k with League.

>>16329095
Pretty sure they have perms, Mumei just isn't allowed to play it because potential China yab.

>> No.16329168

>>16328964
What is interesting is that CoD is charting again. People are buying it because of Journey

>> No.16329177

>>16329095
They didn't allow her to play Civ because history game can get political fast and I don't need to tell you why they want to avoid that.

>> No.16329185

>>16328971
Lol NIJIEN has literally 5 (6 earlier including Millie) overlaps

>> No.16329214

>>16329168
New songs tend to bring interest into the rest of their discography.
Suisei was getting a bump in views when she was releasing new songs.

>> No.16329219

With all this music talks, i'm curious if hololive's music are performing better than idol anime's music such as idolm@ster and Love Live cuz i see them releasing singles and albums every now and then. Would be funny if true.

>> No.16329222

>>16329168
Yes a new song release usually will buff another song as well. Same thing happened to Suisei, Watame, Towa, and Mori.

>> No.16329244

>>16329123
how big is siliconera?

>> No.16329266

>>16329177
that was for history review streams
i dont think many girls show interest on civ itself.

>> No.16329297

>>16329095
Chink games and Soul? Yes
Other games?No
But Civ has China in game,

>> No.16329310

>>16329185
Firstly, 4 overlaps with the same game is different from just regular overlap.
Secondly, everyone in NijiEN lost numbers to the Ike/Luca A Way Out.
From the data we have, we already know there's a lot of viewers who only watch Luxiem that doesn't care about NijiEN girls.

>> No.16329320
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Mumei, 3 minutes regained waiting room numbers

>> No.16329341

Civ is not a good streaming game at all.

>> No.16329364
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16329364

>>16329219
Yes https://mora.jp/ranking?genre=all&term=yearly&month=curMonth&year=2021&period=yearly
We need Oricon data to see the full picture though

>> No.16329381

>>16328964
Another thing to point out is the fact that her merch pretty much has her EP there too. They integrated it. Her merch performance will be added to the profits. I think this is pretty clever of Cover because they know that Irys is more popular as a vtuber more than a vsinger at this point. Her gachis bought all versions of her EP.

>> No.16329394

>>16329297
In Civ 6 you can set up a white list of what Civs will show up in the game. Or just select them all ahead of time and avoid east asia. Nothing Chinese related will ever show up if you don't want it to.

>> No.16329399

>>16329341
it doesn't matter, if mumei enjoys the game enough to stream long hours, it's better than whatever the fuck council is doing right now

>> No.16329424

>>16329341
don't tell that to civ fags, they get pissy when you tell them their game is boring as shit to watch

>> No.16329483

nene really saw the numbers were back and decided to play mario u and an apex dmg challenge
she really is retarded

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>>16329364

>> No.16329561

>>16328864
Most people aren't gonna waste time watching a crossfade when the EP is out pretty much the following day.
If it had sat on her channel for a week before the release than you might have had a point, but it didnt.

>> No.16329566

>>16329091
I can’t really answer your question anon since I haven’t really watched Mysta too much but just because he’s popular doesn’t mean he’s clippable. Mori’s far more popular than Kiara if we’re going by subs but Kiara has 1500 more clips than Mori when I checked on Holodex

>> No.16329568

You need to take into account of where your audience is from to determine game buffs. Isegye got good numbers for league but that's logical because their viewers are from korea. Say if mysta play mahjong, it would be a buff because of his majority jp audience.

>> No.16329570

>>16329394
No,if people discover setup,it will fuck up.

>> No.16329586

>>16329364
well uma musume is a totally different beast than most idol anime, they sold like a million blurays last year.

>> No.16329760

Next month we will probably see more new NijiEN sponsorships that have not been through HoloEN based on how successful NijiEN males are becoming. I think companies might start going around HoloEN enture since NijiEN males are probably cheaper yet still getting similar viewership of HoloEN.

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>>16329566
Of course, Holodex doesn't list every clipper on Youtube, only clippers in their database.

>> No.16329810

>>16329760
kek

>> No.16329832

>>16329771
What does the ghost one do wrong

>> No.16329891
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16329891

You guys wanna see tasty numbers?
This animation is having a growth spurt 8 hours after uploaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J-nxFJjYDk

>> No.16329927

>>16329771
Reimu...

>> No.16329963

>>16329891
>46k views
>18k likes
kek I believe it.

>> No.16329970

>>16329891
yep it just popped up in my recs too

>> No.16329979

Myth:Stephen Curry
Council:Andrew Wiggins

>> No.16330018

why is council schizo here today?

>> No.16330050

>>16329891
Damn, this vid had less than 20k views when i watched it an hour ago iirc

>> No.16330066

>>16330018
Eh he's here everyday.
I just realized it's been a long time since people have shat on Kiara's numbers.
That used to be the go-to before Council.

>> No.16330070

>>16329891
that's a lot of effort for a shitpost

>> No.16330071

>Valkyrae at 22k
Literally who is this and why is she tampering with my viewer # rankings

>> No.16330080

>>16329891
reddit buff

>> No.16330111

>>16329891
Another free high-quality Hololive animation for their pile

>> No.16330122

>>16330071
The other person Susan paid a lot of money to poach from Twitch.

>> No.16330125

Why does Mumei have 7k people listening to her babble about kimchi fried rice?

>> No.16330141

>>16330071
otv circle of people, exploded cause amogus, plays a lot of fps
not that fun desu

>> No.16330144

>>16330125
Koreans appear

>> No.16330148

>>16329891
nice animation btw

>> No.16330155

>>16330125
Hololive audience loves pure zatsus, I don't get why more of EN doesn't realize this

>> No.16330176

>kimchi fried rice
>korean language studies

Is this just pandering or the sign of incoming hologooks?

>> No.16330179

>>16330125
zatsus get good viewership so I don't know why you're surprissed

>> No.16330180

>>16330125
Eh she's had more viewers listening to her mumble about other things.
I think she'll cap out at around 9k.

>> No.16330200

>>16330125
go moomers go

>> No.16330212

>>16329979
Kek ngl Council is actually accurate

>> No.16330227

>>16330155
They probably think the numbers are low for their zatsus because they're unpopular....not because they name the stream "Zatsu + SC reading catchup!" and that filters a few thousand people.

>> No.16330245

>>16329891
He could have done Luxiem animation instead, that could have bet him around 200k viewers. What a dumbass.

>> No.16330287

>>16330245
Ogey

>> No.16330316

>>16330245
i honestly can't tell who would post this

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>>16330245

>> No.16330336
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>>16330125
7k is standard for Mumei zatsu. In fact this is her lowest one so far, this was her previous lowest

>> No.16330351

>>16330176
They should've done it.
HoloKR WHEN??

>> No.16330355

>>16330316
He's trying too hard.
Luxiem numberfags know that even Mysta hasn't gotten a 200k VOD yet outside of his debut.

>> No.16330380

>>16329891
10.1k updoots on reddit. On its way to r/all.

>> No.16330401

>>16330336
This one is super guerilla tho tbf.

>> No.16330411

If NijiJP is done with 3D this year, I think NijiEN 3Ds could be next. If Cover continues to be slow as fuck, Anykara could potential bring the biggest ENvtuber 3D debuts ever for Luxiem.

>> No.16330419

>>16330227
Excellent point. Mumei is smart about this, she just names her streams random stuff like "I went to the dentist" or whatever, and people tune in to see what the mooms doin'.

>> No.16330440

>>16330176
homostarEN kpop. ina and kronii will nepo this shit.

>> No.16330471

>>16330411
do you just come to this thread to post your fanfics? this is like the third one

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>>16330401
Oh absolutely, just wanted to make the point that no one should be surprised by the numbers here. also
>>16330336 (me)
I overlooked this zatsu, this is actually her lowest. But it also took place around the start of CCVID so take it the number with a grain of salt

>> No.16330526

>>16330351
HoloEN is doing in Korea what HoloJP did in the West. Getting popular and getting people invested before the branch is even announced. Maybe.

>> No.16330557

>>16330380
that subreddits still alive? i thought their activity was already halved

>> No.16330563

>>16330380
Upvotes in Reddit don't matter. CCV does.

>> No.16330582

Cover doesnt need fojoEN,
they need numberfags like JP6.

>> No.16330610

>>16330557
All of the activity of Reddit have now turned to CCV instead though.

>> No.16330617

>>16330411
I agree, next male debuts should consist of someone from dreamsmp and then they will join and collab with dreamsmp and top twitch streamers clique. Think of all the high numbers and potential. Nijien will take over the world!!!!!!!

>> No.16330630

>>16330563
nijicope

>> No.16330653

>>16329531
5k first week domestic sales but managed to sell 41k total, quite impressive.
SSS sold 21k first week and is at ~32k right now, should be able to pass 41k in ~4 months at her current rate.

>> No.16330670

>>16330582
No, what Cover needs is a good and delicious CCV to go along their CCV dipping sauce. Numberfags don't matter much anymore because they are useless.

>> No.16330683

>>16330557
It's about as popular as r/anime anon

>> No.16330721

>>16330617
Are you fucking living under a rock? NijiEN do not matter anymore. The only thing that matters on Earth is the precious CCV.

>> No.16330748

>>16330582
I just want a no-life streamer like ame was at the start of Myth.

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>>16330721
>>16330670

>> No.16330830

>>16330582
HoloEN needs streams addicts

>> No.16330886

>>16330748
Prime Ame…. Anon don’t make me cry…

>> No.16330922

>>16330526
>>16330557
Subreddit is still alive. The amount of activity/engagement in it beats a lot of anime=related subreddits and streamer's subreddit. Even Ludwig and xqc's sub isn't that active. We're talking about several posts going to r/all every week.

>> No.16330936

>>16330886
numbermate...

>> No.16330942

>>16330830
And another collab/event organizer.
Can't just wait for Kiara or Ame to organize an event forever.

>> No.16330971

just wait until holoen3, for jp both fantasy and X did good, which means holo's lucky number is 3
therefore holoen3 will save holoen

>> No.16331021

>>16330971 (me)
and you can tell im right cause im using numbers

>> No.16331055

>>16330971
If ID3 somehow manages to incline the ID branch, I will believe in this.

>> No.16331057

>>16326350
50-60% participation, 21K max CCV, 18K likes at end of stream.

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>>16330886
She'll be back.... right?

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>>16331057
His stream right now.

>> No.16331208

>>16330971
Why do want something that should die be saved?

>> No.16331238

>>16331208
anon, having that much hate in your heart is going to hurt you

>> No.16331252

>>16330582
EN3: Competitive Tryhards

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>>16326285

>> No.16331371

I noticed Luxiem playing genshin more often ,
they want Chink and Genshin viewers badly,
both are huge.
Whats Cover next step?HoloEN3?HoloKR?
Or try Genshin permission?

>> No.16331399

>>16331055
Indonesians don't believe in themselves. Someone as charismatic as Ollie groveled and clout-chased to a bunch of 2views and Twitch vtubers. Fucking gross.

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>>16331371
Going back to China and re-hiring all of holoCN

>> No.16331490

>>16331399
The issue is 5/6 IDs already accepted that they weren’t going to grow past a certain point or actively sabotage themselves. The 6th one who didn’t is fucking Ollie.

>> No.16331496

>>16330111
while other companies have to pay for that shit

>> No.16331536

>>16331371
they have nothing else to captivate the sea amrket.
ring fit and cooking simulator dont need language but outside coomer bait or karaokes there isnt a lot outside gacha to keep them afloat with them orretain their userbase.
motherfucker was playing mahjong, no one on the west likes mahjong.

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