/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>16264964

>>16264964
because she introduced Hololive to the international audience.

>>16264964
Because she didn't do jack shit you fucking newfag, she debuted way later after the vtuber boom, it was a combined effort of Fubuki memeing, Matsuri zatsudan/sexual harassment adventure and dog make funny noise. Filthy newfag i swear.

>>16265190
/thread

>>16264964
I would have been better off without this addiction.

Was it really her? I thought it was shit like Korone's clips going viral.

appealing to western decadence

>>16264964
You only think that because she spoke a little english on her stream

For me it was Krone's DOOG adventures. Coco's HL1 streams were pretty cool, though.

>>16264964
Because the idea of vtubers speaking English and appealing to Westerners because of their language, was spearheaded by the ID branches. Plus kaigainikis were already in love with vtubers before her.

Coco did next to nothing.

>>16264964
Arigatou Akai Haato
Thank you Haachama

>>16264964
>introducing hololive to international audience
wtf I hate Coco now

>>16264964
Because EOPs and Hololive EN are terrible and have ruined hololive.

>>16264964
Because of Reddit.

>>16265394
Korone, Fubuki and Pekora
/v/tards will say Miko but normies dont know her at all

>>16265190
the hololive boom was in late 2019 and the summer of 2020 coinciding with the blockade caused by covid-19.
not when YOU started to see them.
the information is there, no use rewriting history.

>>16265394
I joined because of fubukers

>>16267232
same 'ere. simple as.

>>16267071
You're the one making shit up

tatsunokos sure love rewriting history, whether its about coco's influence, the taiwan incident, etc.

>>16267232
Fubuker is the true queen of Hololive. She isn't even my oshi btw.

because i don’t care about hololive

>>16264964
Mori introduced me to Hololive

>>16265822
Nijisanji is on the same path.

>>16264964
why are cocornudos like this? miko saying nigger and korone with the corona boost did more than her

People here don't seem to understand. Before Coco, clippers had sole monopoly on the EOP fanbase. It was after her that people actually started watching streams.

>>16267859
>>16268017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGOeVBfad1c&t=2s

>>16265394
Personally my first experiences with Hololive was Fubuki's scatman followed by Matsuri's bandaid story.

>>16264964
Never forget your roots.

I was introduced by migo saying nigga, coco should have said nigger

>>16269165
Proving us right

>>16264964
It led to the creation of /vt/.

>>16264964
>Coco
>not Miko
?????????

>>16264964
I do not like that she indirectly contributed to the formation of the chumkeks and this board in general.

The only thing Coco was introduce reddit to the Hololive audience and the ensuing flanderization that followed.

>>16264964
Because it wasn't her who introduced hololive to international audience.

>>16270746
>>16270638
stay in /gif/

>>16270355
im a nigger and in need for girls saying nigger so bad this shit is getting critical like 100000 girls say nigger like everyday online , but nigga wants sum of that NOOO NIGGERS SORRY

>>16264964
Because I got into Hololive through Korone and Miko and not Coco.

>>16265516
>subtitled AsaCoco
>Actively bridged the cultural barrier between JP and EN
>popularised holoEN
>next to nothing

>>16270446
seriously you can't notice the increase from december to the first months of 2020? and i'm not just talking about Coco but everyone in general.
although third place in 4 months is not bad

>>16270746
basically this. the begging was miko and korones clips.

some amerimutt niggers just translated and clipped miko and korones streams and amerimutts and spics just consumed the memes.

>>16271139
Even then, clippers had the monopoly on the international vtuber market, nobody save for Japanese-speaking weebs actually watched streams until Coco and HoloEN

>>16264964
Because I already did. And OP is a fag

>>16264964
I've come to believe that most of the international audience was a mistake.

Thank you Iroha for introducing me to vtubers

>>16264964

>>16264964
>for introducing hololive to international audience
She did no such thing. FBK, Matsuri, Korone, and Pekora did most of the legwork.
What she DID do was damage the collective streaming etiquette and sense of humor of international audiences beyond repair instead of expecting them to conform like everyone else, so she certainly had a lasting impact in terms of culture. Fuck this orange bitch, every day she's held at a 10-foot-pole away from my oshi is a day I breathe easier

>>16265176
Nations like China and Taiwan?

You would never have heard of hololive if it wasn't for Chinese clippers and translators

>>16267071
Lol, I, as a (forced) pandemic hater remember, clearly, that Hololive and its boom came before the pandemic, so please try not to embarrass yourself anymore.

>>16265190
migo is forgotten

>>16264964

international audience ruined vtubing

>>16264964
>for introducing hololive to international audience
Well, there you go.

>>16267232
I saw the Scatman clip but I wasn't sure if EVERYONE had like some others

For the first few months of her debut Coco only did Japanese streams, she hardly ever spoke in English. Her asacoco used only difficult N3 or higher level Japanese words and the tent was all difficult kanji.

Her target audience was only middle aged salarymen and other vtubers.
She brought the paypigs to hololive.
She was the fastest growing holo at the time because other Japanese vtubers from other agencies talked about asacoco. She was basically excellent at marketing.

Her chat was 97% Japanese till march 2020.
But She did notice that there was a growing number of eop retards in the chat and on reddit, so she insisted on cover making a US branch to redirect the idiots to them. And it worked. When EN was created most of the retard coomers and western faggots and redditors moved to the en branch and mostly left the good JP holos alone.

Whenever retarded EOPs start acting up too much, she just fires up games that filter them like Ark and that gets them to shut up and go away. The same thing that the other jp holos are doing now.

>>16274723
>did most of the legwork
You mean clippers. Internationals didn't watch streams until Coco and HoloEN entered the picture

>>16275547
Hey I watched Korone's 20 hour stream of SegaGaGa. Most of it

>>16264964
i do thank CO-COVID-19 for the spread of this trend

>>16264964
THANK YOU COCO

>>16274855
i found out about hololive from my japanese friends in language classes, and there were clippers from HK, USA, and many others - not just Chinese. Not to mention Fubuki memed herself to great heights with scatman, as did migo with the gamer word.

>>16275389
>reddit spacing

>>16264964
I'm willing to bet twosnacks introduced more people to hololive with fucking eekum bokum than anything coco did

Tatsukeks are probably among the most delusional fanbases in the entire Hololive. Along with 35cucks.

>>16265190
>this nigger forgot about Miko saying nigger

>>16266480
Another retarded gorilla nigger

>>16270746
Based migger

>>16271865
The normalfags definitely were

>>16264964
That would be the YouTube algorithm.

>>16265190
>New Year 2020
>vtuber boom
The real boom kicked in later in the year

>>16264964
She aint contributing shit. Faggots like (you) only think so cause you know holo from that gigguk dude. FBK, Matsuri, and Korone was the one that went viral overseas with a buch of clips and shorts. Plus migo's nigger and that ark clip

>>16292374
>FBK, Miko and Korone
How may times will I tell you zhangs about this. Before Coco and HoloEN, Clippers had the sole monopoly on the International market. Nobody actually watched streams. Everyone knows Miko for saying Nigger, but did any EOP actually watch her streams? No, it was all clips and memes. It was Coco directly bridging the cultural barrier between JP and EN, and her conceiving and popularising the massive success that was HoloEN, that made Internationals and EOPs actually watch streams.

>>16293791
Some clips or memes can not make us addict about Hololive in the first place but Coco's existance is the symbol and tge bridge personication for Westerner.

>>16292374
Just meme and clips can not make us watch stream but Coco as the bridge between 2 worlds west and east can make us interest about Hololive and watch it

>>16294856
I watched a bunch of streams from time to time before I knew coco even existed. You give her too much credit. No one would even know who she is because she doesn't have any clips as iconic as FBK, Matsuri, Pekora, Aqua, Korone, Miko, etc. In the grand scheme of things, she had no impact on hololive's growth. If all else, you can credit her for introducing that cancer of a game called Ark.

>>16295309
She had anon and many clips more than you expect.

> Reddit Meme Review

>>16265190
oh shit what happened to your meds grandpa?

>>16264964
If Eilene wasn't your first vtuber than you're a filthy tourist that needs to rope himself

>>16295309
I have said this before. What you say about Fubuki, Miko, Korone? You forgot. CLIPPERS HELD THE FUCKING MONOPOLY ON THE INTERNATIONAL AUDIENCE. NOBODY ACTUALLY WATCHED STREAMS. to them, they were just memes. The Internationals only started paying attention to streams thanks to Coco, her active effort to bridge between Eastern and Western cultures, and her popularising HoloEN.

FOR THE LAST TIME, COCO DID NOT INTRODUCE HOLOLIVE TO THE WEST. In fact, many vtubers outside of hololive trended in the west but they failed to capitalize and build their fanbases there. Her greatest accomplishment is capitalizing on said trend, and building the much needed fan rapport and staying power for her colleagues.
That, and eternally making the bugs of west taiwan seethe.

>>16264964
I like coco but I discovered hololive through korone memes in southamerican facebook anime pages

>>16270114
that was pre-boom. the boom was early 2020 after the gen 4 launch, with covid.

>attracts insufferable reddit audience with shitty american humor
>ruins Hololive's business relationships with China (can't stream popular games like Arknights, Genshit etc)
>kills CN audience, can't stream on bilibili anymore
>kills entire CN branch of Hololive
>gets other Holomems harassed because of her spergout to this day (FBK, Haato, Aqua)
>fucks off and streams as an indie using the notoriety she gained with Hololive
Absolute cunt if you think about it

>>16296636
>ruins Hololive's business relationships with China (can't stream popular games like Arknights, Genshit etc)
>kills CN audience, can't stream on bilibili anymore
>kills entire CN branch of Hololive
Seethe harder Chang. Xi did more to destroy your gaming industry than Coco ever did. How do you enjoy your three hours of gaming per week, huh? Cover was right to pull out of your totalitarian shithole.

>>16296799
Idk what that has to do with anything but you should probably take your meds

>>16296931
China is a dying market unless Xi gets assassinated.

>>16275175
>>16291805
People like to meme about that shit a lot, but boat miko and miko saying nigger barely contributed to Hololive boom, open up the vod and see for yourself, yeh sure she got a surge of viewers but most of them only stayed for the gta vids while the majority of her videos around that time stay in permanent sub 50k views. It's one hit wonder meme subs. She only gets a lot of>>16291901
viewers now because of her getting into hiatus for almost a year and coming back with a big flashy concert and emotional bonding, it's basically a new debut for her.

>>16297410
This. People try to credit Miko with creating HoloEN just by saying nigger. Forgetting that it was nothing more than a meme clip. After she said nigger did any international/EOP actually watch one of her streams? Nope.

>>16264964
Coco's influence was to make Hololive much stronger with the Japanese audience. It's fairly hard to overstate how influential she was but anyone who singles out the western audience clearly wasn't around at the time and has no idea what she actually did.

>>16298780
>Coco's influence was to make Hololive much stronger with the Western audience.
ftfy

>>16299116
No, if anything the stuff she did in early 2020 was an EOP filter.

*vaguely waves hand around*
because of this

>>16299183
>EOP filter
>Subtitling AsaCoco
>Promoting HoloEN

My Coco pin came in the other day. Honestly I feel it deserves a better display case then this dinky little plastic case, does anyone have any ideas where to get one?

>>16299273
That's minor compared to the impact Asacoco had for the four months where it had no subtitles and the impact of the ARK craze. ARK streams weren't a kaigai niki magnet at all.

1st big int. viewers wave
clips (miko, fbk, matsuri, korone, etc.)
haato came out as an ESL

2nd wave: coco
cover noticed that they're attracting more int. viewers, that's 1 of the main reasons they hired coco, because she's fluent in both JP and EN.
she's supposed to bridge JP to EN, not the other way around, so that the JP can be more accepting to the new EN viewers.
of course she's attracting new int. viewers in the process

3rd wave: Myth
this is where things start to turn to shit.
remember when fubuki said "please don't compare"?, shits keep going down after that point. schizos running rampant and they keep breaking the containment.

>>16296636
it would happen sooner or later.
they don't like when a foreign company is dominating the market, the taiwan incident was just an excuse.
if they're actually that angry, you won't see bilibili, arknights, genshit, etc in any platforms owned by google.

>>16270773
Cope, It's her clips of sniping peds in GTA V and shouting "stay home!", along with friend's Scatman clip that brought me here.

>>16267071
This graph shows that the "boom" in the west was from June to October 2020.
Since 4chan is more exposed to Japanese web culture than most places, if you only browse 4chan it probably feels like they blew up in December 2019. But to the west at large it's not even close to the summer 2020 growth. That time period started around when the world was starting to lock down, Korone was playing DOOM, Asacoco was at its peak and Haachama was vomiting on-stream. I'd wager that those clips started the summer boom, and Coco's 3D, EN debut, and the Taiwan yab continued it.
As for the winter growth... I dunno. Fubuki Scatman, Korone noises, and Matsuri bandaids?

>>16265190
You're completely wrong and homosexual transvestite. Choke on niggers cock.

>>16264964
Because her degeneracy influenced the culture such that, to this day, most western female vtubers are complete thots who have no actually interesting qualities and rely entirely on zero effort sex jokes.

You guys really forget Reddit Meme Review that bring massive EOPs to Hololive?

Coco only introduced reddit
Miko and Korone brought 4chan

>>16296636
and this is a good thing, fuck China and it's non market.
Zhongs need to be told their place.

>>16304431
China made hololive
You wouldnt be here without them

Why is Kizuna AI always unpersoned by these threads?
Is it because she did not stream so she doesn't count?

>>16305438
2017 was a long time ago.

>>16301490
Or more succinctly, she brought a bunch of failed tittiestreamers into vtubing, pushing out people who actually like anime and shit.

I'm going to thank Coco for a different reason >>16306218 because she did Cover a favor by fucking off the chinese market since they're literally robbing them of revenue.

>>16305438
She's not problematic so vt autists tend to forget she even exists because they're not actually vtuber watchers.

>>16305438
irrelevant hag that sold her soul to the chinks

>>16309939
Chumbud hands wrote that. Because of that "irrelevant hag" you hate so much, there wouldn't be a cunny shark for your masturbatory fantasies

>>16310033
whatever you say zhang, why don't go and buy another NFT?

I am thankful to her for that and for the fact that she got Hololive out of China

Doesn't change the fact that her content and style of humour was cringy as fuck. But I guess the fifteen year olds enjoyed it.

>>16305438
She was unpersoned since the /jp/ threads in 2018, in particular by the fans of Tsukino "la Goblina" Mito and accused her of "soulless". Fans of Hololive carried out with their hatred of her.

>>16310149
One day, your favorite vtuber will retire. Savor the time you have with her as much as you can. Also you won't be brave enough to fight the chinese on the fields when the moment comes.

>>16264964
because it was already introduced via other means before coco even debuted, you delusional ex-tatsu.

>>16310679
It wasn't, you newfag lol. Hololive had 0 presence in anything other than running across it on a gacha collab and even then you likely didn't know it was about vtubers.

>>16296636
Wait wtf now I think coco is based

>>16312902
You really need to stay in /v/

>>16296636
>ruins Hololive's business relationships with China
>kills CN audience, can't stream on bilibili anymore
Wtf I love Coco now

>>16302663
what?

Because she is dead.

>>16302663
What?

>>16302663
>Miko and Korone brought 4chan
So they brought the "edgy" redditors who sometimes can't be bothered to log in to reddit so they post on the imageboard they conquered and subverted?

>>16266480
Nah man, that shit was popular and trending in YouTube because of how out of left field and casual a Japanese girl just straight up said bigger
To the point there was compilation of others suddenly doing it like rushia and subaru

>>16275389
>>16286150
Wait, that actually works?
If so, that's based

>>16264964
What viral video did Coco do that got westerners watching?

>>16310258
That's only here tbf (or considering how schizo we are)
If anything that's the only good thing I can say about newfags, no bad blood is carried over and they could forgive and forget if the situation wasn't that bad to begin with
Keyword "if"

>>16322767
The only thing I can think of is teaching marine how to say "I'm horny"

>>16322767
AsaCoco

>>16322767
> Reddit Meme Review

>>16264964
I knew Coco from Cocopañol, but I was never interested in HoloLive as such until I saw marine. Maybe some coco clips have attracted a portion of the audience, but most of us don't come exclusively for coco, but for other holomen

>>16264964
I got into vtubers because of Korone playing Mario and Miko saying nigger. Then all of a sudden Myth debuted, and I found out about Coco and other JPs later. What is Coco's role in all this? How is she the reason for EN?

https://youtu.be/KS4CVAr9118

700,000 views and this is just 1/3 of 1 collab and that from 1 clip channel.

You can imagine the rest.

THANK YOU COCO

>>16310549
maybe, but you are the one yelling at clouds on this anonymous mongolian cave painting forum right now

>>16265176
This

>>16264964
Thanks for the redditors.

>>16264964
Do Tatsunocucks actually believe this?

>>16264964
r/hololive

>>16264964
Without Coco, Hololive will still be crawling under Nijisanji's shadow, so yes.

>>16264964
AsaCoco

>>16296636
fuck chink and chink made games

>>16264964
Every day I give thanks to My Lady and Kaichou Kiryu Coco for Her Sacrifice in saving Hololive and Vtubing from the insidious poison of the Chinese Communist Insectoid Menace.

Why are chink like this?

I fucking love this bitch.

>>16264964
>introducing hololive to international audience?
You mean chink clippers? Thank you, chink clippers.
Who's Coco?

I am fucking TIRED of these arguments:
>Miko introduced the international audience
>Fubuki introduced the international audience
>Korone introduced the international audience
>Chink clippers introduced the international audience
Guess what? The only people who cared about Miko/Fubuki/Korone are extreme weebs on /jp/. Beyond that, NOBODY CARES. And during those eras, Hololive was a minor company that crawled like worms leeching on Nijisanji, the dominant Vtubing company.
It was in the summer of 2020 (Coco subtitling AsaCoco and promoting HoloEN, use this >>16300568 graph for reference) that Hololive finally had a massive international surge in popularity. This was what allowed them to crush Nijisanji once and for all.
Without Coco, Hololive will still remain as worms perpetually crawling under Nijisanji's shadow.

>>16264964
huh?

>>16265749
So you are not part of the international audience? Do you really believe that you are japanese? Lol.

>>16264964
I want paizuri from Friend C.

>>16300568
This actually checks, lol.
Not a lot of people will remember it because they either don't care or are tourists that came after Hololive EN but this literal bitch attracted a lot of people to then small and barely existing western Vtuber scene. Zentreya, IronMouse, Silvervale and others were actual 2views before their friend spread her army of coomers (and we talk 30+k viewers on CB) all over them.
Hate her or not, Melody started EN Vtuber boom.