/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>1628747
>oshii

惜しい indeed.

>>1628798
leave me alone

>>1628747
>implying that an issue that's affecting various things to/from asia is purely a youtube issue
(you)

>>1631566
You'd be surprised how shit Alphabet is behind the scenes

>>1628747
If Vtubers all migrate to twitch then I will not watch them. I’m not going to that shithole website.

>>1628747
how the fuck can she stream with that music for four hours and not have a seizure

your delusional if you think Twitch is better then Youtube. They're both god awful platforms.

>>1628747
At least it's not facebook streaming...

>>1636106
>They're both god awful platforms.
this.

Ustream was fucking dumb and killed itself because they didn't believe gaming was going to be popular enough to support. Twitch (formerly Justin.tv) was able to capitalize on livestreaming specifically for video games. Youtube is only getting on it because they're trying to expend into it, but even now their attempts at successfully promoting live streamers are shit.

fuck Mixer and the cashgrab that was. doomed to fail from the start, lmao, go fuck yourself Microsoft. but there's really no competition between Youtube and Twitch anymore, so both and get by with the bare minimum of useablility without any incentive to improve.

Will definitely watch way less of them if they do so. Can't stand the website and how everything works there

>>1636513
if this is all it took for you to stop watching them: good riddance.

>>1628747
>been weeks since ublock origin stopped blocking ads (maybe there's a workaround, I don't care enough about twitch to check)
>my heckin VODerinos
would be a major blow

>>1628747
Considering that I mostly consume vtuber content through clipped videos I'm not sure I'll see much of a difference

>>1628747
Isn't Twitch about to employ content police to make sure content stays "advertiser friendly"? It's inescapable so long toxic hand of advertising is firmly gripped around all forms of intertainment poisoning it with its cancer claws.

>>1636587
are they? i haven't seen an announcement or tweet from them about stuff like that.

>>1628747
I dont think they will migrate but I agree they should use it whenever YT shit itself

Do twitch vods still suck dick?

>>1636664
yes even more with this dmca thing

>>1628747
>my oshi streams primarily on twitcast
>only uses YouTube to lure in victims

>>1636664
yes, which is why most twitch streamers have a youtube account acting as a stream archive.

>>1636664
Twitch does this thing where they tell you that one of your videos violates DMCA but they don't tell you which one so you have to delete literally all of your VODs to get rid of the infringing content. They also automatically delete VODs after 60 days. The only people that have VODs for more than 60 days are very old Twitch partners that are grandfathered under a different contract.

Well, if they move to twitch, they can't do archived karaoke streams anymore. You'd have to be there live or hope someone recorded it because it'll get muted instantly once the stream ends. This does happen to some extent on Youtube. Pavolia Reine had to mute 1 song in her 300k karaoke stream. There was that one music game that Gura played where it had to be privated because of a music permission issue that needed to be resolved. Also, I think I'm the only one that has noticed but some of the Hololive ID girls videos have been updated or I can assume to be because they appear in the latest sub even though they have a longer last streamed time than the previous video. Both platforms suck but music companies are just as bad. Unless they make their own platform and evenly enforce copyright laws, they're stuck working with either shitty corporation and their whimsical control of algorithm and rules.

>moving to a platform that would make them unable to do karaoke streams
Unlikely

>>1637259
If you make an entire VOD into a highlight it doesn't disappear.

>>1637398
>implying it's not a matter of time until youtube bans karaoke as a whole

>>1636274
god i hope a decent fucking streaming/video hosting platform shows up eventually

Lamy's stream is fine for me.

>>1628747
how do I turn this into Cover's fault

>>1637516
All these streaming platforms seem to not be able to operate without getting those juicy advertisers. I miss the frontier days of shitty skype-tier audio and pixelated feeds; those at least didn’t constantly try to stymie the streamers with a million stipulations.

Is there a good way to download videos off Twitch?
I need to be ready in case they really do make the switch so I can keep my archive updated

>>1636274
>Mixer

When they changed their name and still didn't have OBS support (and in fact had to fork it because their shit was proprietary) I knew it was doomed

>>1628747
Shouldn't everyone in Hololive use Twitch as a backup? Why is it just Miko?

>>1637840
It won't be mandatory. This is just purely situational.

>>1637737
>>1637516
you have to remember that youtube operates on basically no profit or even loss margins as they value getting your info to feed into the ad algorithms more and have fuck you google money behind it, you really can't compete with that unless the service is just that much better

>>1628747
>WILL
you're really certain with these facts up your ass

>>1637840
If anything they should be using Bilibili as a backup, but
>EOP
>China

>>1637918
Yeah, they are basically beyond reprisal, and the same type of scenario happened to Twitch post-Amazon. Granted, they were not in the same ballpark in terms of product, but their fate has become the same as soon as they sold themselves.
>if stream is bad for advertisers, stream go bye bye

>>1637970
What about niconico

>>1638820
niconico is still trapped in the past

i yearn for the day when everyone streams on a proper decentralized video platform and no one takes any cuts out of my oshi's earnings

>>1628747
I can see nijinigger feel restless with how Cover did a good job for the foreigner audience.
First Hololive EN and now Twitch, I don't care about that JSL larper who didn't like twitch and stay in /jp/ but Cover in serious business to expand their growth.

>>1638925
>proper decentralized video platform
how would that even work?

>>1628747
>twitter screenshot

stop shilling bitch
>>1628032

>>1628747
I'm fine with them streaming on twitch once in a while to mix things up, or using it as a backup. It's fun to look at major twitch categories and see a Hololive member's thumbnail at the top.
But their primary platform should still be Youtube, because Twitch's management are some of the worst people on the planet.

>>1636274
There is facebook gaming which is growing on spanish communities but still behind Twitch and Youtube outside of them

We have lived to see the death of vtubing

This one will fit in perfectly over there.

>>1637840
She started using twitch for watch alongs because it has a built in watch along feature for amazon prime users
>>1637970
>Bilibili
You have to go back Zhan

Twitch is cancer. If they start moving over Im just going to give up on Holo

>>1636274
>fuck Mixer and the cashgrab that was
You clearly never knew the sites before it was rebranded from beam.pro.

>My face patiently waiting for the hololive presence on plexstorm.

>>1641759
If only they’d clean up the site a bit on the visuals side.
>having to comb through the warrens of hairy testicles to find more holos

Enjoy being canceled for making a wrong joke or being more successful than 3D

>>1640142
I dunno, blockchain or something.

>>1628747
I want holos to do occasional Twitch streams like they did bilibili streams for bugs from time to time.

Just look at the numbers Miko did for Minecraft. It'd wipe the smug faces of those vshowhores too. Especially when they know they can't go near the holos.

>>1636274
If Bitchute can attract more than just the /pol/ crowd, they may be decent.

>>1628747
Mildom bruh

>>1639893
Nijis already have people on Twitch though?

>>1628747
>utawakus shafted unless singing all originals
>3D concerts shafted unless singing all originals
>constant holocaust
>holos don't like disturbing other holos' streams so raiding is unlikely
they might as well rebrand their company into a non-idol one IF they are to move to twitch entirely. hopefully, it'll be backup at best like twitcast nnd or mildom

ITS OVER

>>1644831
Only Korean branch afaik.

>>1645461
Not really.
https://www.twitch.tv/kanae_2434

>>1638897
Japanese aversion to change but the nips still seem to like it so there's even less incentive to improve it. Just about every JP Holo started on NND.

>>1636587
Yes, but YT is already there. The big advantage to Twitch is that they don't have an algorithm that randomly bans vtubers for no reason.

>>1638925
>proper decentralized video platform

>>1645410
Raiding is cringe

I already used this month's sub on Nerine

>>1645410
>they might as well rebrand their company into a non-idol one
that is awesome

>>1628747
They migrate. One problem.
Their YouTube subs?

Nice try deer tranner

>>1646215
also some of their viewers. miko can pull up to 25k on a minecraft stream even on primetime although there were less competition yesterday but yesterday's twitch stream had around 17k iirc.

>>1628747
They're testing Susan's patience.

>>1628747
I did forget actually, thanks

>>1643971
Ironically run by chinks and kson's go to platform.

>>1628747
poal.me/ih4fse
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>>1636274
>>1637827
You motherfuckers have no clue what you're talking about.
Beam.pro was one of the best things ever thanks to OBS fork, because it was the very first streaming platform that allowed for you to stream with sub 1second latency, if any at all.
"Doomed" my ass, that was its biggest draw for a while. And compared to Twitch, microshit servers allowed anyone with decent connection to stream like that, instead of doing the bullshit "flexible" bandwith that would shaft your stream delay based on whether some POGGERS EPIC STREAMER is currently online with 10-20k viewers hogging all the servers.

>>1640391
Aren't they full of delusional trannies that hate anime with passion? Your oshi will be be banned there soon so no worry.

>>1646676
They seem to leave Vshoujo alone.

Impressive how all it took for rrats to give up on their oshis is a change of website

>>1637516
Video streaming is just inherently insanely expensive.

>>1646741
It's almost like they're just fad chasing

>>1646741
Guess that shows how much they really care about their so called "oshi".
"Oh, you're at a different url now? Dropped!"

>>1636106
>They're both god awful platforms.
And they're both run by jews.

>>1646741
Any streamer who switches platforms will suffer a significant drop in their audience numbers.
The sad reality is that most people are either too lazy or too retarded to make the effort.

>>1637970
isn't Mildom literally JP Bilibili

>>1628747
Good, not necessarily because twitch is good, it isn't, but Youtube basically doesn't give a shit about their service for streaming and has shown 0 interest in circumventing their shadowbans, instant demon runs, and bans over literal color swatch choices....all because they assume they're the only show in town

>>1628747
I guess people have forgotten that Twitch was shitting the bed for a few days not too long ago.

>>1648813
Youtube was shitting the bed earlier, and has been fucking Hololive streamers since its initial launch

feels good having a platform that hosts vtuber events and promotes them instead of shadow banning while making singing songs illegal.

can you imagine if your platform ran banners and put your favorite vtuber on the front page?

i can.

*laughs in bilibili*

>>1639893
>first hololive en then twitch

newfag, they use twitch first even before hololive en appeared, its not new news and eops are just discovering it

>>1648892
What I mean is when YouTube stops doing that, nobody will care anymore.

>>1648920
>having to send a pic of yourself holding an ID to Einnieh Poo just to make an account

>>1646741
Literally every streamer suffers the same problem, nobody followed Ninja to fucking Mixer. Miko also did pretty good numbers considering how unpopular Twitch is in Japan.

>>1649111
>reddit joke and low information user saying wrong stuff
the filters are working as intended.

>>1649111
>replying to zhang bait

>>1648920
>can you imagine if your platform ran banners and put your favorite vtuber on the front page?
Ha ha, yeah. Imagine if Twitch had a feature available to all affiliates and partners that lets them have their stream promoted on the site. Imagine if it was also completely free and only cost channel points that anybody can earn just by watching your stream, and imagine if the point cost was also scaled to the size of your channel so that even smaller channels could promote themselves instead of relying on your platform to only promote their favorites.
That'd be ridiculous.

Twitch is way too horribe. Are they really migrating?

they are just testing the waters what's wrong with that?

Hololive again?