[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers


View post   

File: 322 KB, 798x1298, #REVOLUTION.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16255465 No.16255465 [Reply] [Original]

*NUMBERS STRIKE BACK* Edition
Previous >>16251069

>> No.16255475

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>> No.16255845
File: 214 KB, 1253x982, vspo girl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16255845

KNEEL TO VSPO!

>> No.16255859
File: 2.36 MB, 1600x895, 1612052657734.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16255859

How the fuck has this never been an op image?

>> No.16255864

nuber mm

>> No.16255884

The later it’s getting in Japan the more Mysta viewership is dropping right now

>> No.16255889

>>16255845
>collabing with ecelebs

>> No.16255902

>>16255859
Hal...our hero...

>> No.16255909

>>16255548
I wasn't thinking of Niji fans or Twitter specifically, just casual watchers that comment on clips regardless of what company the VTuber is from. Whether in Niji clips or Holo clips where they collab with male VTubers or Non-VTuber YouTubers, you can see that those comments are usually one of the most popular ones there.
Idol segregation culture is weird to normal casual people since it isn't usually a thing anywhere else.

>> No.16255950

>>16255909
Anon, in tourist central Reddit, the mods have to put out messages to tell people to stop mass downvoting and reporting Stars content.

>> No.16255955

>>16255884
Yeah... there's no argument that his audience is Euro because the time for Euros is getting better and better

>> No.16255964

Ame talking about the CCVID and about moving to Twitch (before the cure)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZxt6jxOp0A

>> No.16255985

>>16255955
yeah its nearly 5pm in central EU

>> No.16255995

>>16255950
only reporting, not downvoting.

>> No.16256018

>>16255964
Ame doesn't give a fuck about numbers... more news at 11.
It's frustrating to be a numberfag and a teamate.

>> No.16256051

>>16255909
Anon, there is no "forced segregation", it is the market forces at work.
>Streamer A does X, gets an audience smaller than Streamer B that does not do X

You can't possibly claim Streamer B would get a higher audience by doing X when there is a myriad of streamers doing X that gets a smaller audience, and an equivalent number of streamers *not* doing X getting a bigger audience.

It is not even about any particular X, you can replace it by anything you want.

>> No.16256060

>>16255950
Those users are in the minority and usually have their comments downvoted by the other users. Keeping at it just gets them banned by the mods.

>> No.16256064

>>16256018
Yea. At least Gura can bring the numbers and is consistent in her timeslot, being a numberfag teammate has got to be an absolute state of suffering.

>> No.16256108

>>16255658
Not all VTubers are just gamers, though.

>> No.16256164

>>16256108
See >>16256051. There is a clear market force at play that incentivize a certain pattern of behaviour and disincentivize another so unless you ban behaviour X, any streamer engaging in it will have a clear advantage (no matter how unfair people may consider it).

>> No.16256183

>>16255909
>Idol segregation culture is weird to normal casual people since it isn't usually a thing anywhere else.
This literally how Kpops and every idol industry in history.

>> No.16256195
File: 57 KB, 1080x280, 1641916812830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16256195

Doing surprisingly well, this show struggled to break 20k before.

>> No.16256203

>>16255859
>Even Susan bows before the Emperor
I... I KNEEL

>> No.16256209

>>16255909
the type of person that typically has enough time to comment on videos are the ONLY ones to hold this opinion.
these faggots will also downvote/report anything that runs contrary to their viewpoint.
Most normal vtuber viewers either silently watch their oshi and maybe send a few supas/regular chats here and there. Some of them might buy merch as well.
Don't confuse the opinions of faggots with a lot of time on their hands as the "majority" opinion.

>> No.16256218

>>16256064
Werent teamates the prime numberfags of myth alongside chumbuds but instead of numbers per stream it was hours streamed in a week?

>> No.16256233

I worked in the entertainment industry before and there is this saying if you put males and females in a variety show, the males tend to get the better impression from the audience. Males tend to have the dominating aura and steal the spotlight easier. I guess it is somewhat true considering male streamers are still the most popular. There is also literally no jp female face streamers that comes close to hikakin or jun. You can say hololive gave females streamers to stand on equal footing against male streamers kek.

>> No.16256234

>>16256195
One of the hosts who has been recovering from surgery for a while. This is her first episode back

>> No.16256236

>>16255859
next one mb

>> No.16256241

>>16256218
As I said, they have got to be suffering I'd they're still holding on.

>> No.16256253

>>16256064
Ame's timeslot is pretty consistent actually, it's everything else that's not.
Timeslot being the same doesn't mean much when we don't know if she's even going to stream.
More debuff streams than anyone in Hololive, her hatred for weekly schedules, moving streams last minute, outright telling us sometimes she's just being a potato and chillin...etc.

It's not hard to see why she's shaken off so many of her more casual fans at this point, but there's still no one in EN that can pull off a stream as kino as she does when she tries.

>> No.16256276

>>16255909
It's one of the things that the casual (foreign culture) need to adapt to be compatible towards Holo existing culture and core fanbase as they are unfortunately most likely contradictory with one another.
The culture shock here is similar to the Taiwan yab, albeit to a much less degree imo, in the aspect of Holos can decide if they want to retain their core fanbase or risk alienating them in the prospect of a supposedly larger audience.
And since Cover had explicitly stated that they are not in any way in great need for available cash or income, they would most likely side with stability with the core fanbase or just delegate the decisions to each talents. In which, wouldn't probably risk their existing audience unless they are that desperate or in some form of false assurance given by their perceived audience.

>> No.16256283

Numbers goes back
>holo vs holo
>njii vs holo bait posts
>niji are in general recline bait posts
>the usual boring pekora chicken, kys btw (I don't know why jannies still didn't ban them)
>gura schizo
>vshojo exist in this thread
I miss the the good old days with the graph anon and the beginning of the kneel posts

>> No.16256301

I hope cover wouldnt kneel to this loud minority and trust their own proven formula so far. StarsEN will ruin the niche

>> No.16256336

>>16256301
>StarsEN will ruin the niche
Nah, it would be just Holostars, but EN speaking.

There is no benefit for Cover tho, it would kill the JP stars just like NijiEN boys are burying the girls.

>> No.16256368

>>16256301
Why do you even care? If they're run like Holostars, they'll be isolated from the HoloEN girls anyways.
If any of them get the same numbers as the bottom of Luxiem, they would already have better numbers than anyone in StarsJP.
If one of them manages to be Sana-tier, it'll be considered a huge success.

>> No.16256395

>>16256233
Makes sense, the Men are expected to be entertaining or funny if they want to achieve any type of success.
A lot of females can coast off of just being cute. Put them together and it makes it a lot more obvious which one is better.
Hololive has a unique niche which no one really had which is an all girls group where the majority only collab with other girls.
>>16256301
StarsEN will be treated like how HoloID treats StarsJP. A few will actively try to interact with them (possibly at the cost of their gachis) and the rest will only interact with them as needed.

>> No.16256422

>>16256368
>they'll be isolated from the HoloEN girls anyways.
I doubt it. I think the hololivers will have the choice to do so. Outside of Mori and Bae I really don't see any of them do it. I don't see why it is worth hurting your money flow to publicly hang out with coworkers when you can just talk in private or just have male friends in real life. I mean Fauna and Mumei know how to do it.

>> No.16256467

>>16255884
Well there's also the fact Ike is also streaming right now.

>> No.16256488

>>16256467
Ike started streaming literally 10 minutes ago, whereas Mysta has been freefalling for an hour now.

>> No.16256502

>>16256336
I do wonder what the lower tier NijiEN girls are thinking right now. Girls like Enna, Reimu, maybe even Pomu since she's previously expressed uneasiness with how fast Nijisanji was debuting waves might be feeling some type of way since I'm sure that they were expecting to be the ones to carry Wave 4 but are now the dead weights of the company.

>> No.16256540

>nina enters
>Numbers drop massively
Kek

>> No.16256542

>>16256395
if stars en were to be made it would be more like JP as i can only see mori/bea interacting with them with the rest of en ignoring them completely.
maybe kiara would do some interactions but i can't see the rest doing it

>> No.16256570

>>16256540
JP women are based, they know what's good and what isn't.

>> No.16256584

>>16256368
I care for my oshi's numbers. Hololive niche has been cute girls doing cute things alone or with each other. But well i guess like >>16256395 said, they'll be a separate branch and occasionally collab without much interaction or forced pairing like niji

>> No.16256595

>>16256540
Mysta has a lot of JP fans, some of them are probably hardcore gachikois who hate their oshi being around women

>> No.16256596

>>16256422
>I don't see why it is worth hurting your money flow to publicly hang out with coworkers when you can just talk in private or just have male friends in real life
You're talking about a bunch of girls who routinely leave SCs off on purpose. They don't care about their money flow.
If they're afraid of anything, it would be afraid of offending their unicorns, but it would be a good thing for them to realize that earlier and cut those faggots out of the fanbase.

>> No.16256615
File: 1.53 MB, 1300x1300, 1641866817684.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16256615

>>16256502
They need to come home. Come home girls!! Come home!!

>> No.16256619

>>16256542
I recall stars said that your priority must be growing the stars brand if you want to join. I imagine they will try to drill that into any potential EN’s head.
>>16256540
Nina has been trying to leech nonstop on the guys since they were announced.

>> No.16256622

>>16256301
I'm sure starsEN will fail just like starsJP. Seafujos already watch nijisanji

>> No.16256626

>>16256540
I don't watch niji Males, dose nina collab with them or appear in their streams a lot?

>> No.16256670

>>16256584
>I care for my oshi's numbers.
From the sample size we've gotten so far, the EN girls have not suffered any loss in numbers from the few collabs with males they did.
In fact, I bet when Mori finally gets her Charlie collab, it'll be one of her best numbers stream in a while.

>> No.16256682

>>16256596
Who do you think buys extremely hard to get and overpriced merch? I don't like unicorns as much as anyone else but they are a profitable and consistent number, one of the best. That is why I leave it to the talent but I wouldn't do it, it isn't worth the hassle and there are billions of males in real life.

>> No.16256686

>>16256626
She's hard attempting to leech from them.
>>16256596
Unicorns in EN aren't nearly as crazy and vicious as their JP counterparts. What the girls do should be entirely up to them and any collabs should be up to their discretion. If they want to foster their gachi base and opt out, theyll do so. Going out of their way to 'slay unicorns' should only be done if they didn't want them in the first place.

>> No.16256694

>>16256619
>growing the star's brand
yeah but they aren't going to do it at the expense of the girls. like i said the only ENs i can see interacting with a starsEN would be mori/bea with kiara being a potential rarity and the rest ignoring them like the jp girls do with stars

>> No.16256724

>>16256540
That's a lie, the numbers actually went up.

>> No.16256814

>>16256682
>Who do you think buys extremely hard to get and overpriced merch?
HoloEN is big enough to crash websites like what happened with Omocat and have sold out Nendoroids within hours.
They literally do not need unicorns because their normie fanbase is big enough already that their shit sells out even without the crazies overperforming.

>> No.16256817

>>16256622
StarsEN would be in a weird spot either go full bros mode and have to compete with ecelebs from twitch like soda, xqc, etc or go full fujo bait and have to compete with NijiEN and NijiJP.

>> No.16256826

>>16256724
Vox joined soon after

>> No.16256904

looking at all the replies about holostarEN, glad I have a JP oshi who will never collab with a male. I don't care about pandering to unicorn and all cause they are far better than thousands of normalfag cucks that EN seems to have looking at the demand for EN holostar.

>> No.16256974

Laplus doing a member stream now.
She and Koyori are both doing their 3rd stream of the day.

>> No.16256983

>>16256904
You assume it's normalfags and not women.

>> No.16257005

>>16256814
They're been shedding normalfag viewers for a while so I would not rely on the whims of a fad. It's better to extract from the mentally ill, the money flow is not permanent.

If you don't want unicorns you don't have to have them. It's just things are more stable with them since pound for pound they are some of the most profitable. Always try to keep your gachi though, even if they aren't unicorns they are your worse fans but also the most supportive.

>> No.16257070

>>16256817
>full bros
People who want to watch a bro streamer don't need or want to see an anime avatar. so the only thing left is to be fujo bait and in that aspect manjisanji controls the entire market

>> No.16257147

>>16257070
The only way EN stars will work is if a big streamers just moonlighting. I don't think they can compete with NijiEN males otherwise.

>> No.16257238

HoloEN and ID already has partnered with merch shops in their respective countries, making it cheaper for customers to buy without paying an expensive shipping fee.

Which makes me wonder, when would NijiEN or the whole overseas Niji branches be profitable enough so that local companies asks anykara so that they can distribute and sell niji merch to their countries? Is there really a chance for NijiEN to grow big worldwide, or is the reality of it going to be in the way of Mysta and Vox only selling out merch in SEA/JP countries?

>> No.16257267

>>16257070
It's kind of funny though. It seems the EN boys are to some extent shocking to the JP fans with the degree to which they pander from what I have seen. Giving out kisses and saying lines for superchat, blatantly ship baiting fujo stuff, talking about the ship art they get on stream. The JP Niji males don't give anywhere near that level of service from what I gather they mostly just do normal streams that wouldn't be any different from watching any dude stream but with an anime avatar and then some of them have a good bro type of collab partner and let the rest be filled in by imagination.

>> No.16257274

>>16256817
this type of audience you talk about in xqc, soda etc. mostly aren't into things like vtuber. Its opposite in fact, that they treat vtuber as a sort of a joke. Most of them are not weebs or are worthless ironic weeb who can't communicate with normal language and uses emotes as their natural vocabulary. Who wants this time of fags over at vtuber fandom?

>> No.16257333

HolostarsEN discussion again? Are Nijikeks really shitting up the thread because numbers are healing?

>> No.16257363

>>16256694
oh please if holostars en debut omegatranny will force collabs

>> No.16257468

>>16255859
MEIN EMPEROR

>> No.16257476

>>16257333
NijiNumbers were good and Mysta had a 13k. That's another record for them. Sure, maybe like 18 holos got more today but it's still a step up.

>> No.16257510
File: 499 KB, 1816x369, 1641608954881.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16257510

>>16257005
>They're been shedding normalfag viewers for a while
Hey I've seen this one before

>> No.16257528

>>16257267
It's just nijiEN being nijiEN. A whole set of ambitious and opportunistic people set on doing the most buff stuffs for their streams. It's as if they made a detailed case study of HoloJP, nijiJP and HoloEN, try out all the buff stuffs and never let that momentum go. It worked kinda, but they're giving out 2x more work when Holos are giving out 2x less work with the same rewards.

>> No.16257569

>>16256983
it's definitely not women, they can't compete with holomem so they wouldn't want the guys anywhere near them.
It's faggots and also people that want hololive to lose steam.

>> No.16257615

>>16257476
isn't the only other nijien male getting decent numbers vox, who is barely getting half of what mysta gets?
it seems less of a case that there is an audience for English male vtubers but more that mysta found a good audiance.

>> No.16257632

holostarsEN needs to be holobrosEN with a side of musical talent
the holo fanbase is males, let manjisanji have the fujos and just hire some bro streamers

>> No.16257654

>>16257267
Anime is part of the japanese culture. It's normal to see anime plastered over buildings, trains, trucks, cars, etc. Meanwhile, most of the western audience that watch e-bros don't watch anime, or find watching vtubers to be something pathetic.
NijiEn realized that and decided to drop the bro approach and go full fujo pandering

>> No.16257708

Mobile app bug is still there so I checked La+ mengen karaoke CCV, 1.8k now. Is it good for a member stream?

>> No.16257723

>>16257238
NijiID have been selling products in their country for a long time, and have also received sponsorship offers from Indonesian subsidiaries and companies.

>> No.16257751

>>16257654
That's a really risky approach though since SEA Fujos aren't loyal. Not sure about JP though.

>> No.16257752

>>16257632
And who will watch these bro streamers? The market is oversaturated already, just go to twitch and you will get thousands of them. The kind of audience that watch these bros don't give a single fuck about how the streamer looks, let alone they would give a fuck about anime avatars looking good or bad.
>inb4 holo viewers
Sure, just like how they watch StarsJP

>> No.16257780

>>16256619
Speaking of growing, i think stars are lowkey retarded. Any collab with the girls will nevel inclined their numbers. They should've debut their new gen year ago along with HoloID2 during the peak of holofever and they would be incline by now. Their fear of new gen eating away at their fanbase is what stagnated them. The only way to open a floodgate is to build a dam through new debut hype and rail in the tourist as much as possible. But welp it's still not too late if they do it after the ID3 debut tho

>> No.16257827

>>16257752
they have a better chance than the starsJP model

>> No.16257836

NijiJP twitter announced the NijiEN merch being sold on the NijiJP store today. It got more engagement than any of the posts about the same merch from the NijiEN twitter for the same NijiEN merch.

>> No.16257838

>>16257363
>omegatranny
Doing more than just being on twitter.

>> No.16257841

>>16257780
Yep. That and Kaoru graduating just when he was picking up steam might've been the proverbial nail in the coffin for them.

>> No.16257844

Prediction for pekora bday numbers?

>> No.16257845

>>16257708
Yeah considering it’s like 2AM in Japan right now

>> No.16257852

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-LOlueKCtk
10M get

>> No.16257854

>>16257723
Yeah, but it's only recently that they have a local online shop set up now for ID iirc

>> No.16257866

>>16257615
NijiEN = 15 Mystas
HoloMyth = 5 Guras
HoloCouncil = 5 Sanas
NijiJP = Events and 1 Kuzuha
HoloJP = tons of different streamers that can medal at any given day

>> No.16257890

>>16257836
They have the channel stats. It's very easy for them to add NijiEN merch to the JP store.

>> No.16257916

>>16257528
Hey that's the bare minimun efforts you should pull in this kind of industry. I hope council learn a little bit from their hustles

>> No.16257927

>>16257836
NijiEN girls going to become second class citizens already.

>> No.16257946

>>16257654
>>16257752
The bro approach only works if you're good at games. If anything, I can see StarsEN working because they aren't any singer-types vtubers yet that could go all out on JP songs or gamer-types that's actually good and entertaining playing games.

>> No.16257970

>>16257845
Zero notice as well, she just tweeted and started streaming.

>> No.16257975

>>16257854
They have been using socialbuzz and tokopedia since 2020.

>> No.16257982

>>16257723
Shit doesn't surprise me since NijiID actually had Hana who was actually a premier international liver for Nijisanji and was for a time one of the top EN speaking chuubas for a time. I'm still flabbergasted at how much of a dumb bitch she was to have let that slip.

>> No.16258009

>>16257780
They are retarded but at least the new gen coming this year and maybe StarsEN can bring some eyes to them. Is just a matter of them being fun enough to keep the tourist and gachikoi.
And they also need something like Hologra to keep them on the spot weekly, just like Ayame does.

>> No.16258018

>>16257780
That depends on them Roberu and Astel did their networking reps and it paid off and even now that NijiEN males are a think it did not affect them at all Astel still got his usual 1.8-2k karaoke numbers despite overlapping with Mysta, i use this example mainly because Astel have the biggest EOP fanbase out of all the Stars.

>> No.16258042

>>16257890
I'm sure it is but its just kind of telling about what those stats might be isn't it? The girls seemed to have mostly got their audience from the people an EN branch is supposed to be for. But it seems like with tweets like that shilling merch getting more traction with the JP audience than the EN one a large portion of the boys success over them comes from JP Niji fan girls going to check out the shiny new exotic toys.

>> No.16258041

>>16257723
This makes me wonder why it take this long for holo? I mean JP and ID are like very close bussiness wise, it's not hard to lobby a local distributor with their brandname. Makes me wonder, do HoloID even has a "real" management aside from those maid like mane-chans? I've seen nijiID at least has some solid manegement on their side to get them local sponsorships despite how small they are

>> No.16258046

I like the stars but in general they are not very good streamers except may be roberu and astel. A lot of them are very niche in general. Temma is a legit good gamer but he has a lot of dead air or boring reactions. I like rikka's singing but you cannot convince me to watch his solo game streams which is sleep inducing. A lot of them are not good at solo streaming and need collab patners to shine too. They better scout a pekora tier entertaining streamer for the new gen.

>> No.16258050

There's not a whole lot of anticipated events this week other than Pekora 3D or Council outfits. I hope Cover just debut 5 ID girls already. Better yet, put some males in it.

>> No.16258066

>>16258041
Because Hololive just figured out how to make their own shop and negotiate for international shipping?

>> No.16258088

>>16258050
>5 ID
Expect 3 and one Vsinger AT BEST. StarsID is dead.

>> No.16258102

>>16258050
They should really seek out an asian country with cuter girls

>> No.16258106

>>16258050
5 Anyas

>> No.16258174

>>16258041
>This makes me wonder why it take this long for holo?
Because Holoid are less interesting for Indonesians. Most of the holoid fanbase are EOPs, who are attracted by their constant conversations in english. The majority of nijid speak their own language much more often, which is why they have gained great popularity within the country.

>> No.16258202

>>16258018
Astel and Roberu are the only one who do it right. Astel has his whole apex arc from a total newbie into a respectable player in a year, puting his name within the apex community. Also he has the open-up arc after ollie to collab more with people outside of stars and even women that he's been avoided to interact with.
while Roberu, proven again, solid schedules make numbers and wide array of connections keep you relevant withing the chuuba community

>> No.16258219

Finally Lui got 400k sub, took a while..

>> No.16258220

>The kitten yawned
>220K views
Is this the power of nijitwitter?
https://twitter.com/TakamiyaRion/status/1480770762151952386

>> No.16258247
File: 1.01 MB, 973x713, 1632237931995.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258247

>likes
Neat, does it stop counting them after the stream is done?

>> No.16258277
File: 2.43 MB, 1920x1080, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258277

nice, Iroha and Marine will funnel to Peko tomorrow.

>> No.16258285

>>16258066
That's why i question how "big/decent" their manegement are aside from managers
>>16258174
I really hope ID3 will pander more to indonesian folks to expand their local fanbase

>> No.16258290

>>16258050
> 5 ID
They only debut 3 each gen, the girls already confirmed that there will be a total of 9 of them this year

>> No.16258292

>>16258247
Anon, you even have the bloody site open. You could, y'know open a vod and check if there's a difference between the number you see and the number on the VOD?

>> No.16258308

>don't let the numbers get to your head
Vox is not one of us...

>> No.16258318

>>16258277
>putting EN on their schedules
I love this gen so much

>> No.16258331

>>16258220
It’s the power of her amazingly ugly cat.

>> No.16258358

>Niji
>Faggots
Can we talk about literally anything else? Why are we discussing the intersection of trash layered over trash?

>> No.16258365

>>16258247
>394/464
>post bug-fix
oof

>> No.16258395

CCVID notable victims list:

Myth: new year outfit
Towa: mario kart, live
Pekora: pokemon tournament
Miko+Korone: marathone
Gen6: new year outfit
hololive channel: new year stream

>> No.16258399

>>16258358
No, unless you want another timeloop

>> No.16258419

Vtubers are still too fucking niche in indo. You cannot expect companies to come to you for sponsorship (they probably don't even know what the fuck is a vtuber). You need to be active in looking for them. Nijiid probably have someone who has good local connections and good at sales.

.t someone who does business all around asia.

>> No.16258420

>>16258395
Niji mahjong

>> No.16258425

>>16258399
wojaks are better material that faggots

>> No.16258429
File: 143 KB, 540x438, 1641746858070.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258429

>>16258395
Forgetting someone?

>> No.16258435

>>16258285
>pander more to indonesian
I don't think this will happen, HoloIDs are too dependent on the EOPs. It is already too late to spread within the country, when only foreigners are interested in the branch in the majority.

>> No.16258439

>>16258395
Gura karaoke

>> No.16258446

>>16258285
Pandering to the common Indogs who aren't even educated enough to learn English ain't it. NijiID panders to them hard but they are literally in 3rd place in a 3 man race. The only SEA people worth a damn are the ones who actually have some form of higher education and just barely.

>> No.16258465

>>16258050
>Better yet, put some males in it.
This, ID would incline so hard with males.

>> No.16258466

>>16258395
NJU doko?

>> No.16258468

>>16258041
That's because you don't follow ID scene at all and just talking out of your ass. There's a reason why HoloIDs get the most invitations for cons over there. Holos and Maha5 are extremely popular. I don't know where'd you get that Niji indogs are even relevant.

>> No.16258512
File: 140 KB, 274x512, songduel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258512

Can Watame's orison animated MV catch up to Towa's unanimated orison MV?

>> No.16258517

hmmmm
with the success of that one nijiEN male, do we confirm the theory that youtube cull viewer from different region from the streamer harder than the same one.
Like, they all (holoEN included) have location setting as Japan. but this guy has mainly JP audiences. Anyone care enough to compare the curve?

>> No.16258525

>>16258290
>confirmed
Well fuck

>> No.16258533

It's 2am and Watame is inclining as all the other Holos go to sleep, all is right in the world.

>> No.16258539

>>16257632
>HolostatsEN
Sounds Cover like asking to be cancelled in western countries
They already get a lot of criticism for separating males and females in Japan, doing the same with an western audience is asking for drama, especially after NijiEN's Wave 4
My guess is that the next HoloEN generation will be mixed, 3 males and 3 females. Being cancelled by game developers and brands is worst than upsetting a few unicorns and members like Miko and Rushia

>> No.16258547

>>16258174
>>16258285
> Because Holoid are less interesting for Indonesians.
> ID3 will pander more to indonesian folks to expand their local fanbase
I always wonder about this, does Indonesian even want to watch their own Vtuber ? There are vtuber (some NijiID and Maha5) who pander to Indonesian but they get low view and isn't as profitable as pandering to foreigner. If a vtuber was getting 5k to 7k just speaking ID and playing game then I would say there is untapped potential but all the number say differently

>> No.16258551

>>16258512
Can Kanata's arsehole recover from how terrible her own anime opening is doing in comparison to these two?

>> No.16258567

>>16258539
>*HolostarsEN

>> No.16258574

>>16258174
>which is why they have gained great popularity within the country.
this has to be satire

>> No.16258585

>>16258290
When did they confirm this?

>> No.16258590

>>16258465
> ID would incline so hard with males.
Have you seen NijiID ?

>> No.16258596

>>16258539
>They already get a lot of criticism for separating males and females in Japan, doing the same with an western audience is asking for drama, especially after NijiEN's Wave 4
>My guess is that the next HoloEN generation will be mixed, 3 males and 3 females. Being cancelled by game developers and brands is worst than upsetting a few unicorns and members like Miko and Rushia
Nice bait there, anon

>> No.16258606

>>16258551
To be fair to Kanata's video, it is significantly shorter and views will be more skewed in favor of longer videos. Still the performance is pretty mediocre although it is still mogging the shit out of Watame's other orisong

>> No.16258609

Cover is retarded for letting their failure of a branch that is holostars grow instead of starving them and hoping they all just graduate over the next couple years and hope everyone forgets that was a thing.

>> No.16258627

>>16258429
Well Luna's live numbers and Ame birthday numbers were kinda meh to be included even considering CCVID debuff. Gura's mariokart pov had 25k+, you can't claim victimhood if you below that

>> No.16258631

>>16258551
can you fuck off back to /jp/?

>> No.16258637

>>16258551
Not with me constantly fucking it, no

>> No.16258642

>>16258539
>They already get a lot of criticism for separating males and females in Japan
This is just blatantly false. All male and female groups is the norm not the exception and this culture goes beyond vtubing and nips. Even the gooks do follow this.

>> No.16258661

>>16258609
you are why nobody takes any advice we spout here seriously

>> No.16258683
File: 408 KB, 1495x1676, 789655467.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258683

CCVid still with us?

>> No.16258691

>>16258525
Why would you even want them to debut more talents ? They are not EN, they are all competing for the the same time slot, all the lower ID would get burry if they debut too many talents

>> No.16258696

>>16258547
Maha5 does decently though, they did well enough that they are actually expanding outside of indonesia.

>> No.16258698
File: 400 KB, 410x510, Happy to take the knee.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258698

>>16255845
I really am happy smaller corpos are growing. Here's hoping something more healthy than a duopoly can still form.

>> No.16258701

>>16258539
Why is NijiEN wave 4 all boys then?

>> No.16258704

>>16258609
They actually gained a good following after Nijisanji made the blunder of firing 50 of their talents.

>> No.16258737

>>16258627
I think Luna actually did better than Watame according to the forecast I had put out before.
>Kanata: expected 61.8k, actual 44.8k
>Watame: expected 41.0k, actual 27.9k
>Towa: expected 76.9k, actual 21.7k
>Luna: expected 51.0k, actual 13.2k

>> No.16258757

>>16258683
Mysta ended

>> No.16258782

Tally doko?

>> No.16258788
File: 76 KB, 469x684, 1625464130352.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16258788

>>16258683
Next time go check Vrabi and see if someone else dumped their stream into another

>> No.16258795

>>16258547
Disregard that retard. He sucks cucks. HoloID and Maha5 are the most popular agencies in ID. HoloID however has a bigger non-ID audience that they can pull from hence why Moona can pull close to 9-10k on unarchived karaokes on a good day, numbers that would be unheard of for any ID vtuber currently. Nijisanji was able to establish a local store sooner because Anykara was willing to invest in the branch and they actually were a relatively big company already by the time that they created NijiID. Let's also not forget that they had pre-menhera Hana who was their most successful Chuuba outside of JP at the time so Anykara was definitely more willing to invest in them.

>> No.16258801

>>16258704
AnyColor’s talents. Barely any Niji fans knew who those 50 girls were even if some of them did collabs with Nijisanji

>> No.16258803

>>16258609
This, they’re doing more damage than their worth just by existing and being a constant nuisance members have to tiptoe around. Most would be relieved by seeing them gone but of course that voice we get canceled.

>> No.16258825

>>16258683
look at the smooth curve vs sawblade
you can see who has the audiences with the same location setting and who doesn't.

>> No.16258873

>>16258631
Why are you seething, heimin? Sad your blood isn't even worth sucking?

>> No.16258881

>>16258801
Wut? The news was quite a shocker even Narukami devoted a lot of time covering it. What's worse was it coincided with the Holox's debut so the issue got magnified.

>> No.16258884

>>16258825
You do realize one has a significantly tighter x axis right

>> No.16258887

How are we gonna cope if Council sweeps the medals for the outfit reveals? As a council anti I'm shaking in my boots about Kronii's 100k.

>> No.16258893

>>16258696
> Expanding outside of ID
That is kinda missing my point since that just look like they are looking into a whole new (maybe more profitable) market while I want to know can a pure Indonesian vtuber success with Indonesian.

>> No.16258915

>>16258803
>>16258873
/jp/'s only exports are schizos and shitposters, prove me wrong

>> No.16258954

>>16258893
anon, if they aren't successful in ID they won't have the capital or the will to expand out of it, hence your entire premise of "IDs don't want to watch IDs" is wrong

>> No.16258957

>>16258881
They became known after they got booted. Barely anyone knew who these girls were. Now they’re just one of AnyColor’s failed projects (the other being SLEE)

>> No.16258960

>>16258788
>>16258757
But what happened with Anya. Her schedule look like in CCVid era

>> No.16258970

>>16258609
>failure of a branch
Holostars would place in the middle of all Nijisanji talents if we compare their numbers alone. They're not as popular as the female Holos but I bet Anycolor would poach them right away given the chance.

>> No.16259007
File: 115 KB, 576x210, 1631961393489.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259007

Of course

>> No.16259025

>>16258887
Enjoy the Sana mogging Gura’s outfit shitposting anon.

>> No.16259032

>>16259007
All is right with the world.
Peko B-day live will be a great success.

>> No.16259040

>>16259007
Iofi is really smart. She's the only vtuber that consistently employs counter programming tactics.

>> No.16259043

>>16259007
It's not an important event unless an ID stream over it

>> No.16259061

>>16258795
NijiID had a 7 month head start before HoloID was even created and they had their star Hana as a Wave 1 member.

>> No.16259081
File: 140 KB, 1086x376, 1621550424067.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259081

Can Sana ever catch up to the rest of Council?

>> No.16259090

>>16258698
Toko is a leech. Without Ange or Lize to prop her up, she would be nothing.

>> No.16259102

>>16258970
Factually false. Save rober and astel who are at best low-mid tier, the rest of holostars is bottom tier if we compare to niji's JP talents. You can pick your metric, vod views, median ccv, subs, anything you want. They are pretty damn bottom tier. The only one NIjisanji might have some interest in if the chance arose would be Astel, and even then that wouldn't exactly be their star pick.

>> No.16259115

>>16258609
>>16258803
Agreed, cover really fucked up with holostars. They could have numbers bigger than Kuzuha and Shibuya Hal but management is retarded.

>> No.16259123

>>16258512
Yesterday >>16216518
【オリジナル曲】 FACT/常闇トワ 【フルMV】
>618,908 views Premiered on 3 Jan 2022
>+45,446
【Animation MV】 My song / Tsunomaki watame 【original】
>519,651 views Premiered on 6 Jan 2022
>+45,368

FACT has been out for 3 days longer but My song has the same increase as it since this post yesterday. These increases slow over time. I have some doubts Watame's MV can catch up.

>> No.16259127
File: 10 KB, 337x96, 1626842123506.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259127

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a51VH9BYzZA
5M (3 months and 4 days)

>> No.16259133

>>16259007
As consistent as Okayu beign a guest

>> No.16259144

>>16258701
NijiEN is releasing vtubers more often while holoEN is doing it once a year
Releasing a male only generation would mean a huge gap between Council and the next female generation

>>16258642
>Gooks
Not a western county

>> No.16259150

>>16259061
>Hana
please don't remind me of her. girl sabotaged herself worse than Risu

>> No.16259151

>>16259127
faster than GHOST?

>> No.16259174

>>16258887
Embrace the shitposting.

>> No.16259186

>>16259115
Yagoo being idolfags first and foremost he wouldn't intentionally fuck up with the girls no matter how much he loves the boys.

>> No.16259191

>>16259151
No, GHOST is less than three months.

>> No.16259195
File: 138 KB, 738x562, 66334523329.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259195

>>16258539

>> No.16259203

>>16259144
Westlife, Spice Girls, Boys 2 Men etc etc

>> No.16259205

>>16258887
honestly, they better. otherwise, council shitposter will be terrible since they can't blame the cull

>> No.16259233

>>16258795
NijiIDs main audience were EOPs actually but all of the left when HoloID and HoloEN were created. When Maha5 took the 2nd place, NijiID became useless of a branch. Nips are actually speculating now whether Anycolor would axe NijiID first or NijiKR.

>> No.16259280

>>16259233
NijiID.
NijiKR at least brings home a lot of donations with currency that’s worth something. Too bad it’s a ticking time bomb of drama.

>> No.16259286

>>16259081
Shes not even trying and seems defiant when people give her any sort of criticism so no.

>> No.16259289

>>16256615
Half of NijiEN are Hololive rejects who lost their spot to current tslents and just couldn't wait for next auditions for some reason.

>> No.16259288

>>16258683
Tf is wrong with anya's?

>> No.16259305

>>16259081
Stream consistently. That is all she would need to do.

>> No.16259308

>>16259081
she retarded af, she did a members-only drawing stream yesterdye.

>> No.16259331
File: 1.17 MB, 1666x3455, 2022-01-11 top.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259331

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *

Here it goes
>37,316: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,292: Korone (Hololive)
>21,482: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,205: Laplus (Hololive)
>17,852: Laplus (Hololive)
>17,803: Shibuya Hal (merise)
>16,400: IRyS (Hololive)
>15,956: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,711: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>15,504: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>15,286: Rushia (Hololive)
>15,035: Koyori (Hololive)
>14,032: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,718: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,465: Botan (Hololive)
>13,446: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>12,448: Kanata (Hololive)
>12,080: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,542: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,540: Aizawa Ema (VSPO)
>10,336: Patra (774 Inc.)

The start of a new arc

>> No.16259332

>>16259144
Nijisanji actually blundered here. Seeing that they're following their business model on the JP side, it's now clear for us enough to say that they'd never ever can overcome Holos in the western market.

>> No.16259335

>>16259081
Nevermind Council, at her current pace she'll still be behind Anya in 2023

>> No.16259349

I dunno if it's just the contrast to what we had before, but I swear some of the numbers seem almost too high now. 6.5k for Lui Pokemon?

>> No.16259355

>>16259233
Having 1 Korean viewer is worth more than all ID viewers

>> No.16259380

>>16259331
AH, MUCH BETTER.
Hopefully graphanon comes back to us now that numbers are normal again.

>> No.16259383

>>16259331
The numbers are back... it feels so good

>> No.16259391

>>16259331
Beautiful. Thanks anon.

>> No.16259396

>>16259233
NijiKR first, it's not even a question

>>16259280
What the fuck are you talking about, NijiID is an established branch with deep penetration into the domestic market and competent management, while the other one is barely functioning, suffers from inept management, has no domestic audience, and just lost their top two talents. One of these branches pay for themselves, the other doesn't.

>> No.16259404

>>16258795
>HoloID however has a bigger non-ID
>HoloID and Maha5 are the most popular agencies in ID
Holoid is more popular in the world, but not in indonesia, idiot

>> No.16259414

>>16259331
Nature is healing.... Where is KING?

>> No.16259416

>>16259349
Anonchama, you're forgetting she got funneled into.
It's been so long, you've outright forgotten how powerful it is. Also, it's very possible that the culling started as early as the API change, so holox may have been playing with limiters on for half of their existence (That got a hell of a lot worse after the christmas relay)

>> No.16259422

>>16259355
>this is what gooks actually believe

>>16259404
>This is what nijiniggers actually believe

>> No.16259423

>>16259081
Not when she's still actively sabotaging herself

>> No.16259446

>>16259331
Holos reclined quite a bit following their very strong December performance. They still managed to lock down the top 5 spots tho.

>> No.16259448

>>16259331
>Didn't sweep the top ten
>NijiEN male
>only 3 streams above 20k
>barely won 13 - 8

>> No.16259461

>>16259446
seems like an incline to me

>> No.16259471

>>16259396
I was about to give you grief for putting NijiID in this good of a light but I can't, you are correct in that assessment

>> No.16259479

>>16259396
True. NijiKR is about to implode in any minute now. So much drama for these vtubers who can’t even reach 1k (except maybe Roha)

>> No.16259520

>>16259061
Exactly what I'm saying. For people who just started watching Holos or just recently became aware of the ID scene, they'd probably be surprised to say the least if you told them that there was a time when Hana was doubling up Moona in CCV.

>> No.16259527

>>16258954
I just saying from looking at their CCV and VODs views, most don't even reach Anya level. But I do agree maybe behind the scene they are doing well financially.

>> No.16259530

>>16259461
Only 13 above 10k for hololive and they were middle of the pack streams, numbers-wise. I'd rather have a few big fish than a bunch of minnows.

>> No.16259539

Lui holding 6k at this hour with Pokemon is just beautiful. Seeing her at 2views level with the cull was too sad

>> No.16259540

>>16259404
>Holoid is more popular in the world, but not in indonesia
hey man, care to post what makes you so sure of this statement instead of repeating it again and again?
>>16259448
>barely won 13 - 8
i missed this dumb shit

>> No.16259546

>>16259081
The dream is over for her if another pet kicks the bucket

>> No.16259563
File: 87 KB, 805x805, 1623224558621.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259563

>>16259331
>Final tally
Bros.. this isnt a dream r-right? We are trully back in the game right?

>> No.16259585

Have you guys ever stepped back and marveled at how retarded these threads really are?

>> No.16259593

>>16259563
yes, until the pajeets decide to mess with the code again and the CCVID arc is repeated all over again

>> No.16259610

>>16258960
That's just Anya

>> No.16259629

did youtube acknowledge that they fixed anything?

>> No.16259635

>>16259585
Yes, given the sheer amount of schizo and shitposting present.
They're really only useful maybe 2-3 hours out of 24 in a given day. The rest of it is, objectively, worthless. Then again, so are a lot of posts on this board.

>> No.16259641
File: 612 KB, 602x685, 1615097379658.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259641

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1480921697373278208?s=20
HFZ is going places

>> No.16259659

>>16259404
This is false. HoloIDs could easily garner 20k viewers on special events like outfit reveals even with heavy overlaps from HoloJP on Indonesian prime time.
NijiEN and most certainly NijiID couldn't do that.

>> No.16259691
File: 139 KB, 533x1232, relay.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259691

>>16259563
Not until this happens again.

>> No.16259697

>>16259659
The NijiEN males could do it now. They’re gonna carry the branch

>> No.16259712

>>16259641
Haachama featured one intro prominently in one of her streams and have it on repeat in one of the TV in her scenario

>> No.16259718

>>16259641
>every hololiver knows of it
We only have Shuba, Haato, Akirose, and RBC admitting it. I hope Kanata and Okayu never see it.

>> No.16259738

>>16259691
Oh fuck off anon, that's the fucking christmas relay, a literal once-in-a-year event.
>>16259629
>youtube
>Acknowledge they fucked up in a direct tweet and not just hoping the entire incident goes away now that it's 'fixed'.

>> No.16259739

>>16259530
Yeah majority playing the exact same niche game

>> No.16259755
File: 316 KB, 1000x677, 1612287557474.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16259755

>>16259659
try 50k lol

>> No.16259882

>>16258551
>>16258606
The length doesn't matter since it has no rewatch value because the MV is bland and the song is forgettable

>> No.16259918

>>16259123
Why do you think Kanata and Watame's songs are performing so much worse than Towa's despite their significantly larger subcounts and higher CCVs?

>> No.16259923

>NijiEN females
>all get locked into a fanbase with no overlap that can't grow
>NijiEN males
>share a big, engaged audience that is growing and can do funneling
NijiEN females are Nijisanji
NijiEN males are Hololive

They have the power for the box. Will they use it? Make sure one is always streaming during the good hours.

>> No.16259941

>>16259718
didn't FBK react to a post of it?

>> No.16259963

>>16259918
Because Towa is the better singer?

>> No.16260029

>>16259963
Kanata and Watame both present themselves as singing-type holos, though. That is probably what the two of them are most known for anyways.

>> No.16260034

>>16259331
>> 13,446: Mysta (Nijisanji)
Who the fuck is this nigga

>> No.16260047

>>16259923
Do you even know what the box is? The box won't work on males, or in Nijisanji. The ones who are Hako-oshi are Holofans.

>> No.16260062

>>16259923
Well the males are actually not retarded enough to overlap right from the get go and they stick to fixed schedule/spot

>> No.16260070

>>16259923
I don't know anon. The males' audience probably overlaps with NijiJP.
NijiEN males are like Bora in that regard. I don't think that's good for the longevity of the branch.

>> No.16260168

>>16260070
Fuck NijiJP. If they're down step on their neck.
>>16260047
It can. We've seen the funnel. There are many that support everyone. Idol faggotry works on all genders.

>> No.16260183

>>16260070
We'll see soon enough once we get some Kuzuha/Kanae/Mysta/Vox overlaps. Until then we can only take guesses.

>> No.16260195

>>16259963
She's not really, but Kenzokus do their reps.
>>16259918
I think Watame would probably have better music views if she wasn't also streaming for 7 hours a day. People only have so much time.

>> No.16260218

>>16260183
Kanae and Kuzuha fans are mostly blokes.

>> No.16260267

...it's really hard to quell my numberfag's heart when my oshi does everything she can to sabotage her numbers
>no consistent schedule
>no schedule at all
>not tweeting stream
>plays debuff games only
>doesn't always turn sc on
>doesn't read sc on the fly

>> No.16260303

>>16260183
I don’t think they overlap that much; they’re not similar besides being popular. Kuzuha and Kanae fans wouldn’t go for someone like him. I think Mysta just brought in a new audience

>> No.16260327

>>16260195
If KFP can do their reps, Watamates have no excuse.

>> No.16260395

>>16260195
I feel like Watamates are even more culty than Kenzoku, wasn't there an incident where she got a shitload of SC for "a day of no significance"?

>> No.16260426

>>16260395
there was that and the case were they signed a chink who wheelbarrowed her chat by accident into the Chinese army against his will

>> No.16260451

>>16260395
they also doxed a chink who tricked watame into liking a post from a fake Ollie account, and make him sign for a military camp, so yeah.

>> No.16260459

>>16260195
its literally just Youtube algorithm

>> No.16260482

>>16260451
source?

>> No.16260506

>>16260426
>>16260451
kek but yeah the doxing of the chink is at least true.

>> No.16260556

>>16260034
King is dead. Long live the King!

>> No.16260557

>>16260395
She did. Her gachis are pretty aware and even Keffiy did it the previous time.

>> No.16260661
File: 237 KB, 414x336, 1639908456387.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16260661

>>16260482
I swear I have it somewhere but in the meantime have this

>> No.16260672
File: 233 KB, 600x912, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16260672

Are the Holos really inclining, guys?

https://twitter.com/livedoornews/status/1480876393760444418

>> No.16260713

>>16260672
Bruno-kun is my oshi

>> No.16260734

>>16260672
SO WHAT, NIJI GOT MERCH.

>> No.16260751 [DELETED] 

>>16260661
>bugpost
Disgusting. get that filth out of here.

>> No.16260752

>>16260661
Wut, what a retarded screenshot. Haachama SportsFes was being spammed during the 2020 event and she was still bearing some of the chinkout effects which led to
>mass disliking by the zhangs
>people rallying to "like" her to offset the dislikes

It's pretty much what always happen

>> No.16260757

>>16260661
>chink shit

>> No.16260783

>>16260661
that screenshot is actually funny because the bots came from the chinks themselves. they dislike bombed Haachama's stream because that's the team where Coco is. also an added bonus that Haachama herself was involved in the Taiwan yab.

>> No.16260784 [DELETED] 
File: 199 KB, 1568x905, 1613951549887.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16260784

>>16260752
Oh boy you weren't here during the chinkout were you? Chinese cope is the biggest fucking cope there is

>> No.16260802

>>16260672
>>16260713
Based Brazilian Bishop!

I think he's an impostor tho, I never once saw him move diagonally!

>> No.16260830 [DELETED] 

>>16260784
Kek.
To this day, we still get bugs popping up throughout /vt/. Hell, we even get them coming in fucking /#/ from time to time.

>> No.16260835 [DELETED] 

>>16260784
kek, I was and I recall these posts, specially this one, pretty much
>my dad works at Nintendo

>> No.16260856 [DELETED] 

>>16260784
My uncle works at the US military and they're going to nuke China tomorrow.

>> No.16260862 [DELETED] 

>>16260830
we should start putting parts of the anti chink copypasta in our posts to scare them off

>> No.16260878

>Peko only 37k for her birthday stream
So... Cull still happening?

>> No.16260885

>>16260451
She has a huge number of Taiwanese gachis who a) are batshit insane and b) hate the mainlanders and their bullshit so yeah, this was no surprise when it happened

>> No.16260892 [DELETED] 

>>16260856
God please be true.

>> No.16260898

Irys's EP is now available in JP. About 3.5 hrs ago. It's number 1 in Mora. 12th in Itunes JP and 3 in Ototoy. We will see how it performs once it's available worldwide

>> No.16260934

>>16260878
it's a countdown stream

>> No.16260960

>>16260878
>birthday stream
anon...

>> No.16260962

>>16260672
I'm always surprised to see Kiara so high. KFP show their love even if her ccv are mid teir

>> No.16260980

>>16260898
Can I ask what are the sites that people use to track EP and albums beside the one you just listed ?

>> No.16261010

>>16260980
Amazon Music. There's also Worldwide Itunes

>> No.16261046

Hololive sc ranking - December

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUNDHDjbYHg

>> No.16261086 [DELETED] 
File: 2.05 MB, 720x720, welcome to the axis church.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261086

>>16260862
It doesn't "scare them off", did it become a cargo cult already?

Depending on the type of content they're consuming, if "forbidden words" and sentences are detected by their "great Firewall" the internet connection is degraded or even cut.

That, of course, doesn't apply to this site because it is more likely than not blocked outright in their country, meaning whatever hostile zhang browses this site is either a fifth column living abroad (where there is no "great firewall", yet) or a local zhang using a VPN.

A much better way to stave them off is to share some episodes of the greatest hits of the "chinese improvisational physical comedy"
>webm related
Some sort of automatic shirt remover, top of the line

>> No.16261122 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
anon, while true that'll get you banned for gore than anything else

>> No.16261146 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
Yea, I was about to say that if they're already using a VPN, the copypasta is useless.
These things though, oh they just can't help but click and good golly does it get them riled up.

>> No.16261214
File: 81 KB, 720x648, Screenshot_20220112-024102_Chrome.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261214

>>16260898
Irys has a lot of TW supporters I guess.

>> No.16261221 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
A shocking number of Zhang post actually live overseas. They get really invested in their chink identity since white girls won't give them the time of day and they don't actually have to live under an oppressive communist government. Sort of the difference between Muslim refugees in Europe and their fuckhead kids to have no prospects and get into ISIS

>> No.16261242 [DELETED] 

>>16261146
Why does this rile them up though ? (aside from the gore)

>> No.16261267

>>16261214
Hololive in general has a ton of TW support. Just look at the superchat numbers. After Chinagate it only intensified, cause if there's one thing TW loves it's saying fuck you to the mainland

>> No.16261278

>>16259331
Emperor...your Top 5 finish...

>> No.16261288

>>16261214
Meanwhile Kuzuha was mostly SEA iirc

>> No.16261327

>>16261278
Holy kek Laplus beat Emperor's Apex with Valo

>> No.16261343

>>16256502
That's your own opinion going on. If anything the contrary is showing with them being happy with their fans.
>>16259289
For some reason being that they wanted to be in nijisanji when they opened their audition. Pomu is such case where she tried holoen gen 1 since nijien didnt exist at the time.
And half of them isnt true since Pomu, Finana and Enna are the only ones known to have auditioned before

>> No.16261393

>>16261288
He and kanae actually have quite some TW fans based on their SC.

>> No.16261402

>>16261267
Or it's just most mainland gachis just said fuck it and keep using VPN to SC anyway

>> No.16261406 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
i-is he okay?

>> No.16261413 [DELETED] 
File: 1.44 MB, 848x480, mfw-have-no-face.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261413

>>16261242
The comedic aspect of it, usually embedded in the title or the description.
In certain other corners of this site they tried to fight back by posting similar content involving mexicans and niggers but of course it didn't work because in those same corners those two rank even lower than zhangs meaning all they've got was a
>thanks for the assist, didn't have that one in my folder

>> No.16261431

>>16261327
Collab with chama

>> No.16261445

>>16259585
compared to blatant bait from catalog? this is nothing

>> No.16261447 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
i'm amazed this shit is still up

>> No.16261449 [DELETED] 

>>16261406
China has universal healthcare, they'll give him some aspirin, patch him up with a bandaid and send him straight home, good as new

>> No.16261468

>>16261431
Emperor should pick better friends as his teammate

>> No.16261492

>>16260878
Chicken is still cold, JOPs need microwave

>> No.16261517

>>16261327
>Holy kek Laplus beat Emperor's Apex with Valo
>>16261431
>Collab with chama
>>16261468
>Emperor should pick better friends as his teammate


WHO WOULD WIN!
>Emperor Hal, with Princess Hoshikawa as his teammate
>two humble chuuni girls playing Valo for fun

>> No.16261521

>>16261267
It's interesting to me because her TW SCs while is always second highest isn't the really that high compared to her NA SCs. It's like 1/4 in comparison. It's mostly a handful of gachis from TW that SC every stream.

>> No.16261543

>>16261517
Laplus won because she had one pov.

>> No.16261545 [DELETED] 

>>16261242
It reminds them of their own powerlessness and despair. Not that that's unique to zhangs or bugs, but if you have to use a VPN to come to fucking 4chan to try and shitpost your supremacy, you're probably 10 levels of delusional and schizo lower than most of the people here, and anything that pops that bubble and reminds you that yes, the chinese can be just as stupid and full of suicidal faggots like the rest of the world is a big ego breaker.
Same reason that shitposts and things pointing out the absolute state of their country wrt corruption and shit get them mad enough to go on diatribes on how western culture and governments are SO much worse etc etc etc.
*Shrug* going off topic too much at this point though. If someone comes out as an unironic zhang and then gets assmad over getting shitposted at, they deserve what's coming to them.
>>16261327
Sorry, Cunny > Shota, the people have spoken.

>> No.16261549

>>16261214
Hololive is basically one step away from being Taiwan's national religion. They hold fucking Hololive parades over there

>> No.16261561
File: 29 KB, 528x502, 440.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261561

>>16259331
>mysta
So NijiEN finally has their shining star

>> No.16261603

>>16260451
>>16260426
That is incredibly based and hilarious.

>> No.16261611

>>16261402
https://usadapekorafanclub.mystrikingly.com/
TW Nousagi put up a fansite and bought ads for Peko's birthday, they do this for every Holo that has a decent sized Taiwan fanbase (which is well over half of them). Yes there's definitely a few PRC dwellers with VPNs still watching and SCing but the majority are actually Taiwanese

>> No.16261657
File: 147 KB, 598x376, Screen Shot 2022-01-11 at 1.53.16 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261657

>>16261214
Picrel is probably a good representation of her fanbase.

>> No.16261664

I would just like to remind everyone when discussing subs that Temma is closer to Mori than Gura is.

>> No.16261673
File: 103 KB, 300x300, 1624900391631.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261673

>>16261611

>> No.16261695

>>16261657
What is picrel. I'm dumb.

>> No.16261715
File: 859 KB, 3840x2160, 1621520482249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261715

>>16261664
kneel

>> No.16261716

>>16261664
proof next thread?

>> No.16261723

>>16261695
picture related

>> No.16261727 [DELETED] 

>>16261086
>>16261413
This is the numbers thread, polchuds

>> No.16261728

>>16261695
A sample of IRyS SC, in descending order of who's SCing her the most. (converted to yen)

>> No.16261770

>>16259043
genuinely curious of as to why...
her viewers watch the events too, unless this is some underdog-complex she's projecting

>> No.16261802

>>16261715
Desperate, and not even related

>> No.16261828

>>16261770
Iofi is probably the most forgotten Holo. At least Anya has a dedicated JP following.

>> No.16261836
File: 28 KB, 909x153, 1613187539744.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16261836

>>16261716
you can just look it up bro

>> No.16261854

>>16261657
3/4 of that PHP came from just 2 people

>> No.16261871

>>16261802
seethe

>> No.16262010

>>16261664
i mean, there's a reason nobody numberfags subs

there's no fun to be had because gura is always looming

>> No.16262112 [DELETED] 

>>16261545
Reminds me of that one youtube video where a chink argues with an american on a western-themed online game. the chink thought he's owning the american with his most inflammatory insults, but started to have a meltdown once the american pointed out the coof came from their country. i keep forgetting the title so idk how to search for it.

>> No.16262168

>>16261561
Mysta is basically a NijiJP that speaks English based on his audience demographics.

>> No.16262198 [DELETED] 

>>16262112
I will never not laugh about the absolute rage of the chinese players as someone calls out on open mic "Taiwan numbah 1"

>> No.16262234

>>16261828
> Iofi is probably the most forgotten Holo.
She is like a car crash, her number just get lower and lower but you can't look away from the disaster.

>> No.16262272

>>16262234
>She is like a car crash, her number just get lower and lower but you can't look away from the disaster.
No, that's Anya. Iofi is the one people constantly forget.

>> No.16262282 [DELETED] 

>>16262112
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHsGO8a8WOE
is this the one you're talking about?

>> No.16262304

>>16262272
No that’s Risu.
Anya is pretty stable iirc

>> No.16262311

>>16259331
spicschizo is awfully quiet

>> No.16262436

>ctrl + f samurai
>0 results

>> No.16262448
File: 54 KB, 992x283, 1638811250492.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16262448

>>16262010
The race for first JP to 2M is interesting tho.

>> No.16262459

>ctrl + f samurai
>1 result

>> No.16262513

>>16262448
Go Marine Go.

>> No.16262562

>>16262448
Go Peko Go.

>> No.16262569
File: 1.25 MB, 825x977, 1641106177229.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16262569

>>16262448

>> No.16262636 [DELETED] 

>>16262282
Kek that's the one! no wonder i can't find it because i'm using the wrong keywords to search for it.

>> No.16262646

>>16262448
>Pekora's last 30 days views
JESAS

>> No.16262734

>>16262448
Mr. Koro... Agua...

>> No.16262754

>>16261828
Iofi gets forgotten because she streams almost exclusively in Indonesian, so none of the rest of Hololive's fanbase can watch her
She still consistently outperforms most of NijiID combined on average viewers, including the ones who stream mostly in English, suggesting that maybe HoloID is quite competitive domestically after all

>> No.16262827

>>16262448
It was always within FBK's power to take it, she just doesn't care.

>> No.16262894

>>16262827
Just need to chain more poke-autism gacha together until she hits 2m. That is of course, on the assumption that they get Legends of Arceus perms.

>> No.16263021

>>16262646
Fubuki's is pretty good at 26.5 million.

>> No.16263023

>retards went from discussing Watame/Towa/Kanata mv views to /pol/posting in the numbers thread
Either post vtuber numbers or fuck off to global

>>16260327
Towa has always done well in the songs department since her deep voice has her own niche audience, and the low number of songs and covers she has means her fans get to loop the same song for longer.
Watame has always been a laggard in terms of numbers, especially her originals after ai mai chocolate. Releasing a song every week is view poison since there's not enough time or hype for the fans to do their reps and loop the song enough to get picked by the algorithm

And Kanata's song is short and average. It only had 1 advantage, animated movie clip, but then my song just outshined it with superior animation

>> No.16263064

In smaller number news, Vox peaked at 3.1k doing a zatsudan.

>> No.16263116

>>16263023
only a zhang would get offended by that discussion, you are not a zhang, are you?

>> No.16263169

>>16263116
I'm not but you would probably just call me zhang anyways, now talk about numbers or fuck off

>> No.16263196

>>16263169
funny, that sounds just like what a zhang would say

>> No.16263251

>>16263116
Am leaf chink, but the dude does have a point that its pretty off-topic at this point.
Let's get back to numbers.
>>16263064
Given the current time, that's not...too bad.
It does just reinforce that for Vox/Mysta/whoever is able to be in the JP primetime slot, that well, that's their best performing slot.

>> No.16263318

>>16263064
Declining or not affected by ccvid?

>> No.16263357

>>16263318
It's like 3-5 am for his main audience. 3.1k isn't bad for a zatsudan, Selen can't get that even with a buff.

>> No.16263387

>>16263318
Normal number for not JP/SEA hours.

>> No.16263406

>>16263318
Natural recline. Niji males weren't affected by the bug much.

>> No.16263472

>>16263021
>Dozens of BDSP shiny Magikarp fishing VODs at 500K-1M views each
Yeah that'll do it.

>> No.16263799

In others news, Gura new year video is at 999k, shit is just bizarre, it was like 700k in fisrt few day, who the hell still watch it ?

>> No.16263820

Gura’s NYE vod about to hit 1M. Coupled with the continuous incline of her recent outfit vod, we’ll likely see 2 come out of that so early in the year

>> No.16263856

>>16263799
People must have liked her pretending she was at holofes. Give her 3D already, she's losing her mind.

>> No.16263928

>>16263799
There are sufficiently memeable moments in the video, the fact that Gura's mom's voice (first) can be heard, and also Gura being an adorable derp in VR to cope with not having 3d.

>> No.16263945
File: 613 KB, 1440x960, 1621378561626.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16263945

https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/s0pgev/top_200_vtuber_covers_of_2021_by_views/

>> No.16264034
File: 524 KB, 1455x732, numbers.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264034

>>16263023
>retards went from discussing Watame/Towa/Kanata mv views to /pol/posting in the numbers thread
>Either post vtuber numbers or fuck off to global

OK. Here's some numbers!
Kanata, Watame, Towa. Current spotify.

>> No.16264081

>>16263945
And it only had 4 months, crazy.

>> No.16264096

>>16264034
Now post Kuzuha and Mito's monthly listeners.

>> No.16264132

>>16264034
Amanekanatach...
Also jeeze FACT is crushing the other two originals combined.

>> No.16264161

>>16263799
300K Kronies watched it to hear her say "Anal Laxative"

>> No.16264188

>>16264132
Fact is by far the best song of the three.

>> No.16264324
File: 453 KB, 1080x720, 1631800869573.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264324

>>16263945
Suisei and La+ getting in the top20 with very new covers is impressive as well.

>> No.16264384

>>16258539
theyll just put HolostarsEN (probably will take a different name) on Twitch instead. So then they don't have to integrate shit

>> No.16264466

>>16264132
It's either listening to Palette or Fact for kenzoku

>> No.16264467
File: 79 KB, 523x329, ah~.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264467

>>16264096
Ah~ Now Look what you have made me go and do....

>> No.16264470

>>16258683
indogs are not people in the eyes of Susan

>> No.16264508

>>16264467
stop, you'll summon the spotify schizo

>> No.16264560

>>16264467
Now post Suisei for another comparison.

>> No.16264600

>>16264467
It's really weird that Nijisanji is doing so poorly there. Even Kamitsubaki is on par with Holo's best artists.

>> No.16264607

>>16264533
>>16264533
>>16264533
Migrate when ready

>> No.16264636
File: 246 KB, 1376x972, choco laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264636

>>16264034
>>16264467
>GIVE ME A K
>GIVE ME A A
>GIVE ME A N
>GIVE ME A A
>GIVE ME A M
>GIVE ME A O
>GIVE ME A E
>GIVE ME A G
>GIVE ME A G
>GIVE ME A D

WHAT DOES IT SPELL!?

>> No.16264742
File: 1.14 MB, 2272x1465, watashogun3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264742

>>16264034
SHEEP IS STRONG

>> No.16264789
File: 1.03 MB, 1400x1050, 1632793449635.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264789

>>16264636
It seems like you are having trouble fitting in, would you like help?

>> No.16264801

>>16261343
>If anything the contrary is showing with them being happy with their fans.
Yeah... sounds like sour grapes to me.

>> No.16264904

>>16255465
>tfw I get my reading material from /#/ and not /a/ or /co/
s-source?

>> No.16264945
File: 1.25 MB, 1347x362, Suzy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
16264945

>>16264560

>> No.16265026

>>16262168
How do we know his audience's demographic?

>> No.16265142

>>16258609
This, If holostars was never a thing some talks on stream would be way less awkward

>> No.16265146

>>16263799
>b-bakana how are the VODs gaining views
Average CCV enjoyer, everyone

>> No.16265155

>>16265026
he said it on stream 3/4 female, majority jps

>> No.16265165

>>16265026
He talked about it. He said large part of his audience comes from JP, that the split is like 80/20 f/m, and the rest of his chat's demographics can be approximated based on timezone.

>> No.16265179

>>16263945
This is such shitty numberfagging, pitting covers against each other no matter how early they were released in the year

>> No.16265213

>>16265179
you say that like it's any different from what we do around these parts

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action