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>>16204607General numberfag sites>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.ml/>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR
>>16203610I'm just surprised girls watch Rushia and boys watch Mysta. I did hear Okayu say that her members M/F ratio is different than her general ones, men are more likely to member her by a lot.
why is this mysta the new face of bait on this thread anyways? the guy had ONE stream with good numbers and now he's the new kuzuha
Kanae is already in a terminal stage. There's no way the NijiEN dudes aren't getting culled to some degree as well.
>>16204652I have some numbers for you anon: 8% of people identify as non-heterosexual and a further 12% refuse to answer
So, in an CCVid era when the bloated popularity of Japanese B-tubers has been exposed and they're once again being pushed around by English-speaking ones, what metric will we use to profe that Japanese are better?VOD medal?
>>16204698He’s the least affected from the cull which is making him stand out from everyone who is approaching terminal levels of cull.
>>16204652Not everyone who watches VTubers wants to fuck them. People can just find them entertaining.
>>16204658Can't expect much without dudes in your stream.
>>16204698He numberfags.
>16204765>__cirno_and_gawr_gura_touhou_and_2_more_drawn_by_renpc__sample-e30452c1730b6e2d8838dbae2d44faa6.jpg
>>16204787Yeah that's why most holo viewers are males
>>16204787Its like saying people of the opposite sex can be friends, when we know the reality that we would only be friends with a woman if they were ugly
>>16204765You could always cope like this nip https://twitter.com/vtubelifetrends?s=21
Star, Mumei and Veibae are going up at bottom of the top 100. Koyori and Iroha are just outside at 102 and 103, ready to jump in, and a little further back but still going up are Bae, Fauna, Lui, and the Hololive English official channel, which is ahead of the other 4 and growing the fastest.
>>16204861Only most, just not everyone.
>>16204919>Kenmochi and Utako have a gulf in viewership between them>subs are only 21k differenceDid someone go on reddit and beg?
>>16204731everyone is affected differently
>>16204980He got a buff from the Mario Kart tournament. I'm surprised he's still getting more subs after.
Alright round 2 of retarded falseflagging with the dumbest Niji poll pocs, let’s go. I expect truly aneurysm inducing logic and room temperature SEAsister larping. Don’t let me down.
>>16204919*other 3
>>16205032gr8 b8 m8
>>16205032I meant the other way, Kenmochi is a mover and shaker, when he streams. Utako is who...?
>Mori >3k CCV>22k likes
>>16205066Reminder that if Mysta isn't getting culled then neither is Fubuki.
>>16205066>SEAsisterJapan isn't SEA tho
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>21,067: Gura (Hololive)>13,416: Gatchaman (Indie)>12,354: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>11,315: Tamaki (NoriPro)>10,934: Fubuki (Hololive)
>>16205180Nijisanji wins 3 - 2
>>16205180It's Gatchman V
>>16205206Retard.
>>16205215Isn't "V" for "Vtuber", as opposed to his other channel?
>>16205180chumbuds holding the line…
>>16205180Why Susan loves salarymen so much?
>>16205299Is this the last solo 20k stream.
>>16205283I'd be fine if Gatchaman won gold*. When was the last time an indie won gold?
Patra struggled to get her 10k, it kept "edging" on 9980, 9975 for quite some time.But she did it so today (JST) won't be a day that will end up with zero VTubers above that
>>16205403Hal, when he announced merise (or right before). He ceased to be an indie right then and there tho
>>16205423>Patra struggling to get 10k with ASMRThose are tourist central. 15k is the norm.
>>16205180I hope the cull stays longer
>>16205180>1 holoEN>1 holoJP>1 NijiJP>1 Noripro>1 indieThis is the most balanced chart I've ever seen. The cull is a good thing.
>>16205116I thought you meant the other way because of the total view counts.
>>16205565You don't have to worryYoutube never fixed anything
>>16205574Yeah if your dad was a low T hippie
we're starting to get dangerously close to there's not enough people for podiumi think im having a panic attack
>>16205647That post was clearly a joke, anon. Sheesh, this is why irony is dead nowadays.
>>16205744mine was too but at your faggot dad's expense
>>16205116Some girl that got humped.
bronies really?
>>16205180Gatchaman has also been standing out on this cull era.I do not know why it has not been included on the past tallys because is not the first time it breaks 10k since CCVid started.
>>16205673And Tamaki probably wouldn't even have made the list without a chunk of the audience being tourists desperately hoping to catch some drama. Sad times
>>16205744>irony is dead nowadaysToo many brainlets who always take everything literally and say retarded shit unironically.
I think youtube should just hide CCV at this point It's easier for youtube to hide it than fix it
>>16205805>itGatchaman? Well the other tally can't recognize him lol
>>16205805Maybe it has something to do with his main channel not being a VTuber channel?
>>16205831grab the rope samefag
>>16205824oh right, the lilith thingfuck that means we're even closer fuck
>Only 22 posters/#/ reclining
>>16205831If people keep pretending to be retarded, then actual retards end up feeling pretty much at home.You can replace "being retarded" there with anything else too, really.
>>16205976ok, just for (You)
>>16205976/#/ got niked...
Has anyone actually checked whether this problem is specifically only a VTuber problem or not yet?
I guess Vshojo has now become the biggest EN group by default. That will be an easy thing to pass for NijiEN guys.
Is Susan unintentionally killing this thread?Pretty based ngl
>>16206046This place doesn't know average streamers and Susan's cashcows seem to be whitelisted
fuck that double bait it's too good, it almost made me give him a (you)
It's past JP (and SEA) prime time so no shit the thread is slow. There's a decent amount of streams ongoing right now though, but meh
>>16206086>Fake numbers are reality!Do Vshits really?
>>16205180Gura is winning a lot of medals GuraGold 2Silver 3Bronze 2
>>16206197>keeping track of silver and bronze during CCVidAren't you dedicated.
>>16206236>The copeLMAO
>>16205180Goddamn Susan really massacred the rabbit. 7k ccv and her current vod count now is almost 300k.
>>16206254>cope??? Do you even know what the word means
>>16206046was watching a sports stream yesterday and a poll showed 10% of the viewers after 1 minute, dont think regualr streams are affected too much
>>16206261i must say, it's really funny how it's hitting the runts, the menheras and the numberfags the hardest, it almost feels like punishment, in a way
>>16206261To be fair, anything JP with the word "announcement" and not from too low CCV holo can get high VOD, kinda need a generic normal stream to see if the CCV vs VOD still function the same. A normal, non-challenge/clickbait Minecraft would be best since the game is popular enough.
>2 hours and 18 minutes>137k views right away>10k likes>average CCV of 6.6k Does it check out?
>>16206127>>16206311What about non-JP indies?
>>16204731
>>16206698Uoooooo!!! Numbers erotic... ToT
>>16206435Go check Pekora's pokemon shiny hunt stream today. That cull rate is brutal.
>>16206127Don't some of the VTuber numberfag websites track non-VTuber peak CCV as well? Could we compare those?
>>16204999What’s with those ridges and why are some people’s taller than others
>>16206823Kuzuha is inclining but Pajeet bot decided his viewers need verification and wasn't keen on letting him past 7k.
>>16206776That's why I said the word "announcement" because I know what stream it is. Just from my experience that any stream with that word generally has high VOD. Need a generic stream to compare, best would be MC since the game is popular enough. Of course I can see the cull is bad already.
>>16206197the queen of a sunken city...
>>16206197I can see in a not so distance future, when all of this is over (either they move to another plattaform or, if god wants it, Susan fix her shit) and jp comes back to shit on Gura again, childfuckers will spam how Gura was the top holo and all the views by then are fake.Just like they were doing during the first cull on how she actually had 300k CCV on her karaokes.
>>16207165atlantis...home...
>2020 cull through end of 2021HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GET FUCKED EN NIGGERS, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL COMPLETELY VALID, JP REIGNS SUPREME, ENJOY YOUR RECLINE, VOD VIEWS DON'T MATTER, SUBS DON'T MATTER, LIKES DON'T MATTER, ALL THAT MATTERS IS CCV, ENJOY YOUR DEAD SUBS AND BOTS>2022 cullWHAT THE FUCK SUSAN, COMPLETELY UNFAIR, JPS ARE BEING SINGLED OUT AND SUPPRESSED, I-IT'S NOT RIGHT!!!, OH GOD ARE THOSE... MALES, ENS, AND VSHOJOS IN THE TOP 10, I'M GONNA.... *SHOOTS HIMSELF*Nice waste of an entire year you retarded faggots
>>16207179No need for such butthurt.
>>16207179How rude, anon. I was totally not planning to grudgepost the living shit out of spicschizo after all of this is over.
>>16207235Not as much when she goes back on being mogged by jp soon again or the Orca reach 1 million subs faster than her, less than 300k to go
>>16207244Migo got 20k for a mf watchalong on twitch,Grudgepost it faggot once this issue is over, because it will go back to previous status quo.
>>16207179>(either they move to another plattaform or, if god wants it, Susan fix her shit)Neither will happen.>top holoTop vtuber of WORLD.Fix you
>>16207283?????Anon, I....Your number reps?Do you remember how fast Gura got to 1mil subs? Here's a hint: She's already not beating Gura to 1 mil, period.
>>16207283It will take her 5 months if she keeps her current pace, anon. Not gonna happen.
>>16207350????????????????Why must you build your lies on top of this shitpile that we currently reside on, Miko got 10k. 10k, not 20k, 10k. For her watchalong.
>>16207398>Top vtuber of WORLD.Her pink cat friend got more numbers than her not too long ago,Does that make vwhorejo the top vtuber group of the world?
LAST SAMURAI VS LAST COWBOYROUND 2 FIGHT
>>16206261why is it surprising to you? youtube never culls VODs because they want Jew the advertisers
>>16207471>not too long agowhen?the only time nyanners beat gura in any way that i can remember is the cookie run stream
>>16207446>Same numbers as Gura on a watchalongYou realize still doesn't make it look better if JP decides to move to twitch, right?And let's not get into NND's numbers, where Polka can get 10k+ on a random day.
>>16207496I mean, cowboy has a fucking gun, it's over before it even began.
>>16207411>>16207428>The tremblingkekIf roboco got 3k subs on a sub goal stream that never hit 1k CCV, the orca is getting those numbers way faster.
>>16207496What's a last cowboy?
>>16204607Ah yes.The numbers that keep on evolving almost every episode.
>>16207551We don't know what kind of numbers Gura would get on a straight watchalong on Twitch to compare, if we're going to go down this silly bullshit JP vs EN nonsense that I don't give 2 figsleafs about. I just care about at least sticking to actual numbers when the're available, not horseshit nonsense doubling from 10k to 20k. See, now I'm curious as to what kind of numbers Gura WOULD get on a public watchalong on Twitch.
Daily check is it fixed yet
>>16207637Anon....do you need meds?Like, you're talking nonsense right now. Perhaps it's time to go to bed.
>>16207705based on the state of the thread, no
>>16207684>The blogspot
>>162066176.6 min/viewNo, the average CCV would need to be at least 2.5 times higher
>>16207705why fix something working as intended
So to summarize:Hololive is megafuckedNijisanji is fucked774 is fuckedVSPO is megafuckedNoripro is fuckedVOMS is fuckedVERSEn is fuckedPropro is fuckedMasquerade is fuckedEvery JP indie I've seen is fucked.LIVE is perfectly fine and getting their normal numbers if not higher for every stream
>111 post>39 poster>Is childfuckers samefagging again/#/ is a wasteland rn
>>16207769CCVid has broken a lot of numberfags mentally.
>>16207637Bruh, are you mistaking some other metrics? Gura took 40 days to 1m, Chloe is already failing that mark.
>>16207815It is, frankly, utterly bizarre that .LIVE appears to be completely unaffected.I swear, if some stupid fucks in YT Japan are related to .LIVE and got them whitelisted, that would be the most aggravating thing.
>>16207637Anon, Gura debuted September 12th, she reached 1m subs on October 22nd. It's fucking over you dumb fuck, orca is not beating her.
>>16207777Damn nice numbers and ill be back tomorrow thanks
>>16207843She was still getting 28k subs/day when she hit 1m btw.
>>16207777>>16208000double checked
>>16207777>>16208000Based
>>16207705Last tweet 19h ago replying to a screenshot from Mumei's pollKeep coping anon, Susan will fix it
>>16208019This is what people don't getGura didn't have the strongest start, she just didn't slow down for MONTHS
>>16208091I love how the words 'fix' and 'live' are in bold. Still not breathing a sigh of relief until a proper fix is in though.
>>16208149It's just search terms that anon used.
>>16208096Even now, she's still picking up on average 3k subs a day. Do you know how many indie chubbas would shank a bitch and fuck the corpse for 3k subs a day? Or hell, even some small corpo chubbas?
>>16208149i doubt they'll even bring attention to it if/when its fixed. we'll just see numbers increase
>>16207815>>16207898Time to apologize, she was right all along about .EVIL
>>16208179Damnit, this is what I get for not using twitter on the regular. I'VE BEEN EXPOSED.
It seems the way for 2views to incline is through endurance singing streams that last for multiple days. and clipper shoutouts
>>16208096Here's what I don't getWhy are subs the only thing inclining for her and not everything else? Is the EOP clipwatching culture that strong?
>>16208091Based.
>>16205180>13,416: Gatchaman (Indie)doesn't he run his own corpo now? I forgot the name
>>16208187Wait, do some content creators really want 3k sub/day? I get that it is still an important metric, but dont they know that getting people to watch your videos is more important than trying to gain sub? Many channels have that small intro where they said that only 10% of sub watch their video.
>>16208238Shark Girl is a bigger meme than Hololive and even VTubers. People know Gura without even knowing what the other 2 are.
>>16207898>>16208218
>>16208218I realised that last April, I'm sorry I doubted you for so long fat ass
>>16208292People can watch YouTube videos without even having an account. It depends on the type of content how many of those viewers a channel gets.
>>16208297I hate how you reminded me that "that" kind of audience exists, but fair.
>>16208238How do you know only sub is the thing inclining for her? CCV is fuked since 2020 so little accurate info, SC depends on pandering, may be you can argue that view is not inclining but the same pattern with many channels (more sub, view same-ish or reduces) so not really a good point.
>>16208238English streaming is crazy competitive and seems to orientate around either big cliques or react content.https://twitchtracker.com/channels/viewership/english/personalityeven pewdiepie rarely gets over 20k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QYAny JPfags can translate what happened to dis bich?
>>16208292You're far more likely to have people watch you if they hit that sub button than not. Better to have 10k subs and 1k views than 2k subs and 800 views. Ratios be damned, if every 9k subs = 200 more regular viewers, you'll farm those subs. Also, for some, increasing your sub count is a way to offset natural drop offs in viewerships for one reason or another
>>16208512>>>/jp/38115142
>>16208489>CCV I was hoping that she would negate the cull with her growth like how some of the JPs managed, but nope.>SCShe never did, so neh.>same pattern While true, Gura is the most noticeable example in this aspect with her insane sub growth. Which makes me think that the lot of her new subs just watch clips instead.>>16208494Pewds is mainly an uploader though.
>>16208637>like how some of the JPs managedLike fucking who? What the fuck are you even talking about? Nobody escaped the cull, you can't double your CCV audience overnight to combat this shit.
>>16208637Which JP managed to escape the cull? Everyone is so low now.
>>16208814Nobody, he's just an idiot.
>>16208843That anon was clearly talking about the 2020 cull, and if I'm not mistaken, Pekora, Miko and some other HoloJP members who have inclined through 2021 have off-set the losses suffered to some extent.
>>16208766>>16208814>>16208843>>16207815>>16207898
>>16207815>Every JP indie I've seen is fuckedgatchaman?
>>16208887This.
>>16208512Profusely apologizing to her fans, she accepts any and all responsibility for the situation, and doesnt want her fans to blame anyone else for it happening. She cannot go into specifics so all the language is incredibly vague and does not state exactly what happened.stated multiple times she does not want her fans lashing out at anyone else, does not mind them lashing out at her for this.She is not going to start streaming yet, will take some time off so everything cools down first before doing her own thing on her channel quietly from now on.More apologizing, this time specifically to her mods for having to deal with this shitshow, and to any of her fans who are offended by the situation.
I love cunny
>>16208906Ah, you mean those JPs who weren't culled at all.
New topic since Im curious about this, most people said that Gura has lower SC than Mori because her fanbase skews younger and thus has less disposable income, or Kiara has a more dedicated fanbase due to same thing. How come Gura has more members over all (stats from those charts anon posted from time to time)? Shouldnt a more dedicated fanbase also buy membership as well and thus should also has more members?
>>16209158It's not that Gura doesn't have a dedicated fanbase, it's that she doesn't have a factor that attracts an extremely dedicated (and wealthy) core of gachikoi. At least, not to the same level as Mori and Kiara, or the likes of Rushia, Marine, Pekora, Watame, Flare, and Lamy on the JP side.
>>16208512> first thing she says is an apology to her mods, then asks them to take care of chat.> she's "fine", asks to not flame anyone else.> if chat will get refreshed by flaming her and blaming her, she's fine. She says she's at fault and apologizes.> from now onwards she will continue on as an indie.> wants to do streams and videos such that her listeners are able to move on from worrying about her.> *dramatic pause*> again asks to not flame anyone else.> next stream will not be anytime soon, she wants to try and get her emotions under control.> tells mods and listeners she is fine and energetic, and thanks them.> she will try to live on without causing anyone trouble (starts crying).> she can only say this much, apologies again to everyone who was worried and felt bad because of her.> implies she may have overworked herself/put too much pressure on herself, and wants to live from now on while avoiding that ("ganbarisuginaiyoni, ganbatte ikitai na to omoimashita").> *more apologies, more crying*> "There's a lot of bad (stuff), but I will try to live a little longer"> *ends stream by blasting your eardrums*I'm guessing she tried to an-hero by ODing on something. And whatever she took may have been the reason for the termination.
>>16209158Membership scales heavily with # of people who will watch you live. It's not the only factor, but its one of the big ones. It's why Pekora, Gura, Marine etc all have very high membership counts. SCs are a bit trickier, but one of the biggest factors to getting SCs, is reading them. Gura doesn't read all her SCs, so she doesn't get as many SCs. Mori and Kiara, DO read all of theirs. If Ame didn't hate money and didn't have poorfag mentality x imposter syndrome, she could very easily have way way way more SCs than she currently does. However, she hates money and also is a maximum self-saboteur, so her SCs are in their current state. All of the top SC earners in JP, they either read all SCs and/or cultivate a heavy Gachi/unicorn following. Rushia, Lamy, Kanata, Nene, I can't be arsed to pull up the list but you get the picture.
>>16209046And how do we know this? Could you elaborate on the methods used? It surely isn’t wishful assumption stated with baseless confidence, right anon?
>>16207815.Live numbers are much higher than what they used to be, previous livefags that went to holo because numbers are going back to idolbu, I guess. Holo is really fucked, a lot of locusts are quitting because they are no longer top boss.
>>16209378You're gonna tell me they suddenly started inclining at the same time as the cull started with the same rate as the cull progressing? Are you retarded?
>>16209506>this is much higherWere they literal 2 views before?
Norio sure works fast.
>>16208976>>16209281thanks guys, so I guess she didn't say anything we didn't know already
>>16209542Pic related was their avg numbers last year.
>>16209506They’re doing a groupwide mariokart colab in that pic anon, of course they show buffed numbers
>>16209635I see.
>>16209506I wonder who is to blame for that
>>16209633That's last year pic, dude, they're doing a lot better recently.
>>16209725i see
>>16209506>Holo is really fucked, a lot of locusts are quitting because they are no longer top boss.I wonder if people will actually do this
>>16209565Ah, what the fuck happened?
>>16209919Just look at the speed of this thread, and how much it’s dropped since the cull. Bandwagonning is very real.
>>16209949Final yab.
>>16209949contract cancelled, apparently had something to do with the lawscroll up for roommate stream and translation, though there's nothing substantial
>>16209949On her indie account>>16209281What she did, up to speculation. No specifics given beyond what was stated below NoriPro.
>>16209953It's dropped because there is nothing to talk about. Youtube is fucked up. Most numbers we have are unreliable.
>>16209919That's obviously happening already for some holos, even considering the cull, some of the girls numbers are too low.
>>16209953Ah yes, the speed of the numbers thread during CCVID is definitely a good measure of interest for hololive as a whole.
oricon you can't deny me these numbers like this you're the only numbers i have left thanks to susan
>>16210019>>16210045Thanks, didn't connecet the dots and didn't really recognize her voice.
>>16210230It certainly isn’t going upwards, or is tgat what you’re implying?
>>16209682I hope you kys if you keep spam this pic.
>>16210165If they shed some of the most utterly casual of casuals who can only watch something if there's that big number in the corner to validate them, then good riddance. Also, Ark arc is probs going to filter some people. Not much to be done, same with MH rise, but better that they're playing stuff they enjoy to mix things up a bit I guess. Not like the ccv matters until something is done.
>>16209682Pakora confirmed for responsible for the shitty programming and CCV culls.
>>16210488Shedding casuals is the worst thing a content creator can do. It’s their largest fanbase.
>>16210488>muh numbers don't matterFuck off, you dumb qualityfag globalfag. What are you even doing in the Numbers thread, then?
>>16210672This. It's just less views and subs if they lose them.
>>16210709>>16210672Fair point, I only mean that trimming some of the dregs can help re-energize the base for future growth, but I failed to write that down. Like, losing a very small amount of tourists but solidifying your core to then continue growth afterward isn't bad, but in the current community completely fucked CCV situation there's no reliable way to even determine anything as an outsider.
>>16210741People on this board are obsessed with the idea of holos becoming 2views and then interacting with them in chat.The delusion: soon Gura will be a 2 view with a slow chat speed and will talk to meThe reality: Susan will say Gura has 1000 views and her chat will still move faster than anyone can ever keep up with
>>16210828Who wants to talk to Gura when she’s a 2view?
>>16210828You notice how they want Holos to conform to whatever they want them to be (2views, collab with the homos etc) but won’t actually branch out.
>>16209356Ame gimped herself by not reading SC on the fly and desperately try not to SC baiting. The second she tried, the money came like a river. Gura was in that hole for a while until she learned to copy Mori.
>>16210445check these out, numbersagi
>>16206197Gura is the Queen of the Cull
>R-Reimu... ;-(Reimu getting "elle'd" hard, which is a fucking mystery because she doesn't even have that high of an audience for starters.
>>16211824Petra as well, terminal case.
>>16211824She’s gonna start shitposting harder now isn’t she
>>16211824>>16211864Towa, bicycle of vtubing, is spreading CCVID like crazy
>>16211824ah fuck reimu is gonna shitpost harder now.
>>16211824>>16211864It's not as bad in solo streams. It's easy to tell that this affects split-POV collabs the most due to multi-tab viewers being counted as bots.
If you were in denial about this affecting the NijiEN dudes too then look no further. This is definitely a Nike/tending towards Nike stage.
>>16207179why mad? Gura always had very good numbers, her channel is a big buff for songs. She is the top vtuber, no point in denying it.
>>16212650It's one specific dude that that shitposter talked about, not this dude.
>>16210672Casuals rotate in and out already. There are ways to chase them, but ultimately it's the high engagement from dedicated fans that get you trending and enable you to pick up the casual views.
>>16212650this shit is more contagious than aids
First normal Ina stream in awhile coming up, in theory a lot of Takos should have been marked as bots during all the recent events like MK and outfit reveal.
>>16213719prev. chatting stream
Bros, go check this shit out. Tons of vtubers just doubled their numbers just now.
>>16211988This barely 1k ccv stream has over 100k vod views now. Lol.
>>16214296
>>16214333
>>16214296So YouTube has been fucking with the culling.
I wonder if this jump in views will last or go away again in 5 minutes?
>>16214296>>16214333Holly shit!
>>16214296ISREAL
>>16214377>>16214364VSPO was the worst hit and look at this. The numbers might be back.
Hololive top 50 originals of the week is outhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHbygszLA34.... and that's a Fact.
>>16214296SUSAN PLEASE
>>16214373Ina's stream can be a litmus test. Will the waiting room shenanigans happens again?
>>16214296Sasuga octopus destination, evading CCVID>>16213719
Last one. This all happened at the same time, 5:40~ JST
streams to check to see if this was the fix
Even if it's fixed, this won't bring back the numbers we've lost.
Hayama's a 2k streamer again?The live numbers seem to be updating more frequently now too.But also, isn't doubling still not enough?Many were already close to the 5x threshold.
>>16214451>>16214400>>16214364>>16214360>>16214333>>16214296>all at the same time100% Youtube changed something.Will the restoration help hololive? It's helped vspo, NijiEN, and NijiJP.
>>16214445Nothing gets in the way of Stable Octopus Tip. Not even Susan.
>>16214504I'm more interested in Koyori since JP was the hardest hit.
>>16214451yeah looks like something rolled ini wonder if this morning streams were a sign lie the roboco one
>>16214552Maybe she was only getting a 50% cull. Check >>16214400, she's getting almost 4 times the numbers back.
>>16214543Nothing ever will. This thread will forget about the lessons learned here (like how there's already a fucking cull since 2020) and go back to treating CCV like it means shit
Just to add to the pile, Hal's stream nearly tripled in views, he was hanging around the 1.3k mark last I checked and now he's nearly 4khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCaZ3Tce2Q
Elira at 1500 and Reimu at 600, seems normalish.
>>16214543Like tears in the rain...
>no one in hololive was streamingdamn it why couldn't they have streamed ARK longer
Dear lord youtube must've fucked shit up if they all doubled their views.fucking susan
They made a CCVID vaccine. I have hope now that we can return to life as normal.
OMG I CHECKED A FEW ZERO VIEW STREAMS AND IM BACK BABY!! I THINK???
>>16214590Hal has been pozzed for a while so maybe it's back.
>>16214629SORRY FAGGOT BUT YOU GOTTA TAKE THE YOUTUBOOSTER SHOT.TWO MORE WEEKS TO CURB THE CURV, SUSANS ORDERS.
did i return at the correct time?
https://vrabi.ml/video/RTIOWVsijsE https://vrabi.ml/video/-BwRApLTJIcBoth nearly 4x increases.
Someone check kson and Hal, they are still streaming.
>>16214604They weren't as terminally ill as Hal, VSPO, and NijiJP.
Can someone ask them to do a poll to check it?
NUMBER THREADS ARE BACK IN BUISNESS BABY
Still not pre-Dec 2020 is it?
>>16214296>>16214333>>16214360>>16214400>>16214451>>16214552>>16214574This shit is hilarious
>my flagged premium account is finally counted as a personThis might be it brosssssWe're all going to make it
>>16214695according to the kson thread. she gained 2000 viewers in a few minutes. she's currently streaming to 2900 people now.
>>16214722need to wait for holos
>>16214687Damn so Beni is actually a 3view now after the yab
>4k waiting room for InaThis isn't gonna be a big stream so rather than looking at magnitudes look at graph shapes.
Now, the real question is if they just rolled back the 2021 fuck up or if we're going back to 2020 numbers.
A-Are we back bros?
>>16214651yeah same. it takes a couple of seconds but i seem to no longer be a bot
I just refreshed Ina's waiting room. I didn't see it get cut....
>>16214776If Pekkers and Gura are 40k again then we know.
>>16214740Lets goooo I'm a person again too
>>16214745yeah she was streaming to 1.1k personsnow at 2.9k
>>16214722Let's see how Ina performs today.Considering the natural decline, she should be around 12-15k if we're back to 2020.
https://twitter.com/ShibuyaHAL/status/1480643155431428098
>>16214766I wish they had deployed this 30 minutes later than they did so we could catch the Ina jump
>>16214766Koyori will be better since her radio stream is a series.
so if we take that on average, theres a 2x increase then the last niji mahjong tourny 47k stream outperformed the previous year.as well as gura 50k.goddamn it susan
WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BROS
>>16214296>>16214333>>16214360>>16214400>>16214451>>16214552>>16214574AND WALLAH, CCV WILL NEVER BE CULLED AGAIN
>>16214695last i saw kson she was around 1k but just checked now and shes at 2.8k
>>16214766Nevermind, my browser probably took a while to update. Hopefully recovery is quick.
>gets fixed only after all the big number events like costume reveals are overFuck you Susan you cucked me out of so many big numbers
>>16214797Dropped from 4.3k to 1.5k on my end. It's already inclining back up though.>>16214829Based HAL, saving us from CCVID
>>16214829Numbers Emperor, I kneel...
>>16214829Based Emperor. Proves that he was getting hit really hard.
NUMBER COIN IS GOING UP, BUY BUY BUY
Waiting room drop still happens, as expected, but let's see how long it takes to recover it.
4k waiting room for inarecover seems fast until now.
>>16214687>>16214731we need to monitor the curvs now>>16214722So far it looks like pre-Dec 2021 behavior.Guessing we will never get 2020 numbers back, but if Ina has 16k for some reason, we'll know.
>Ina still culled from 4k to 1.4kOH NO nO NO NO
>>16214881Give it half an hour.
>>16214805nope. We back in 2021. Peko 25-30k Gura 15-20k.AH HA HA HA
numbers are up again?
>>16214916That's much better than before.
Now would someone do a poll to measure engagement
>>16214916That is better than we have seen lately.
>>16214776>>16214805No, or Ina would be a lot closer to 10k.
>>16214829Damn, he was so pissed at this shit.
The fix is in, right on time.
Susan my CCV puts... I'm ruined
>>16214916Already back to 3.5kI imagine they just reverted whatever changes they had made
>>16214832Kyori also cares about numbers, she might even mention it. Ina doesn't give a and hasn't even been bothered to make a poll all this time.
I want to say we're back, but I dunno if Ina is a good barometer, she was never exactly the Holo suffering the most from CCVID.
>>16214916That's nowhere near as bad as some others, 90% was common for Iroha and Miko
Ina almost back at waiting room numbers already.
recovering her waiting room in sub 5 minutes possibly, so maybe back to 2021 numbers bros...
>tfw i sold my number coin yesterday
God I wish this happened during Towa's stream earlier. That would have been interesting.
Bullcucks getting uppity again
>>16215042If only we can get back to 2020 numbers...
Nature is healing... have you thanked your local numbersagi today?
so faggots, did you sell your CCV coin like a retard before the huge pump?>>16215057OH NONONONOO
>>16214695>>16214745>>16214816>>16214850
>>16214916she's currently at 4k CCV with 2k Likes. that's a pretty healthy ratio for me! Iner doesn't really have that much viewers in these types of streams.
>>16214916That part is expected now because people get ads as soon as the stream starts or it buffers and you need to refresh.Apparently you don't get counted for either.
Ina was always the least effected so we should wait.
Ina just beat her waiting room in 5 minutes.
>>16214881Waiting room recovered in about 7 mins.
finana also passed her waiting room in 5minit was only 500 but is still raising rather than stalling
>>16215081>>16214695>>16214745She gave a Good Morning Mother Fuckers too.
>>16215057Bears deserve to get fucked
Pekora will be thanking management on her KNEES for having her wait before announcing whatever during the CCVID days
Since >we don't get to see membership numbers very often: Kiara has at least 780 people watching her eat snacks right now (from poll votes)
>>16215103>>16215139That's quite slow compared to pre-cull where Myth could recover within 5 minutes (if not much faster), but obviously it's better than it has been recently.
>>16215057>he sold
>held my number coins>got a huge fucking gain of 3xim gonna make it bros
Okay, now that the numbers are back will Council hit 50k on their outfit reveals or is 30k the better guess?
>>16215139Is the Nike-ing finally finished?
>>16215193I think she said something about how many people were actually there but I didn't catch it.
I dunno, it still looks kinda bad. It took her almost 7 min to recover from waiting room and the drop was huge too.
>>16215058Considering Towa's vod is at over 100k right now it would have been like a cliff.
>>16215199Bro, hitting the waiting room number this quickly is a massive victory.
>>16215271It's more like a checkmark now.
Not a vtuber, Misumi, also saw an almost double increase before the new streams started.going to check some more irlstreamers too.
>Ina already passed her waiting room and still risingHoly Shit... Did Susan finally release the vaccine for CCVid?
>>16215278660, so at least in her members stream it's still under-counting even after everyone had that big spike
>>1621526650K+ unless they do it at some dogshit time. If Sana goes first she might not hit that though.
Koyori in 50 minutes will be a better test than Ina
hey, I'm kinda new to to this general; there seems to be some guy that always finds a way to say Gen 5 is a failure whenever they're even tangentially mentioned, and no-one really responds. is this a running joke?
Chumkeks are you ready?
I wish they would make an official list of activity that gets flagged as being a bot
>>16215291Well, are you watching the stream? I'm not
>>16215307Not a vtuber yes but presumably her audience is 99% vtuber fans
>>16215291pulling it out of my ass, but like how people's accounts would get flagged over time what if were seeing the opposite so peoples accounts are being unflagged as they use them
>>16215291it is outpacing her latest tlak stream
koyori in 50 minutes will give us a solid real check since holoX was fucking reamed by this shit
I feel Ina's numbers are an exception and shouldn't be considered indicative of anything
>>16215298Again, you guys shouldn't be hedging all your bets on Ina, even during the cull she's been regaining her waiting room in like 10 minutes every single time, this isn't a massive improvement for her.https://vrabi.ml/video/95yPJiiiZTshttps://vrabi.ml/video/ovdDTBC6tlchttps://vrabi.ml/video/26s3Ubj1jwE
N-numberbros are we back??
>>16215362"Gen 5 Schizo" it's just a guy that irrationally bitches about Gen 5 constantly. There's also one that hates Council. Might be the same guy.
>Council outfits will beat the Myth outfits now
>>16215310it still took 7 minutes to surpass waiting room in what used to take 2 minutes.Its better but i doubt its cured and still has 2020 culling
>Ina with 5kah ah ah ah Im coming ah ah ah I cant stop right now ah ah ah
Koyori radio last week had a 4.4k peak from waiting room last week but never broke 2700 viewers that stream apparently. So it'll be nice to see where she ends up today.
So the cull was only half of the numbers. lol, pekora's chicken really is cold then.
My account still doesn’t count…
>>16215393Then botters would know exactly how to avoid tipping it off.
>>16215443Remains to be seen, Kiara just said her dashboard put her members stream at 660 viewers while a 2 minute poll ended at 780 votesIf they fixed it for everyone except hololive then I cannot imagine the seething that is about to occur
can't you still numberfag about SCs?
It's fucking back!
>>16215497>you now realize that Pegor is streaming to 30,000~40,000 people on her Undertale G-route runs.
>>16215433She hit 6k in 13 minutes. In some of those graphs it took her 25-35 minutes to hit that. It's definitely faster.
>>16215458if all council get 50k+ and beat guras the shitposting will be enormous even if alot of people will know why it happened but retards dont care.
>>16215507The 2020 cull is still likely in effect. It would have been a miracle if they fixed that. In fact I would guess they didn't "fix" anything but just threw in the towel and did a rollback to 12/23/21 or whatever.
>>16215563>te pokemon tournament was probably 100kAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>16215507>16% cutI'll take it. That might just be Dec 20's cut, which hit Kiara by 34%
>>16215574outpacing her latest one by 10%https://holo.poi.cat/stream/eZmls5E20Eg
Okay thresholds for Koyori's morning show so that we can determine of YT CCV is officially healed or not>10k+ definitely healed>6k-10k her pre cull numbers, likely healed>3k-5k not clear>1k-3k likely not healed>any less definitely not healedFair?
>>16215647That's only if there was absolutely 100% engagement on the poll, which is insane to imagine.
kek susan is sure being disliked in the public eye (from https://youtu.be/cc9CDz320KE))>114 like>32.6M subs
Still inclining
If Koyori gets 7 or 8k on her stream I'm gonna cry bros
https://youtu.be/VB0vQ8yBCBs
>>16215680no way she still gets 6k+ for a like the 10th radio stream.5k is a safe bet.
>>16215647That assumes 100% participation though. the real number is most likely x2, x3 maybe x4 the amount of people who voted.
>>16215677HoloEN was still weakly culled at that point. Don't expect dramatic jumps like the audiences that got nuked by 75%
>Ina 6.5kWE ARE GOING TO THE MOON
I don't think Ina enough is proof. She has been one of the least culled .Even after the cull she hit 7k on solo MK and 9k on a collab. You mean to tell me Ina had enough pull to get 14k on that solo MK8? Her usual peak was like 12ish thousand with games like Minercraft and 10k on drawing streams.
>>16215689Membership streams would have higher engagement.
L-lui nee won't get her 3view no more right bros? Susan fixed it right?
>>16215578Sana getting >50k on her costume reveal stream and mogging Gura's views would be hilarious and might cause unironic seethe.
>>16215733I think it could reach 10k because of people making a point to prove they exist
>>16215578regardless there will be shitposters since if they fail to break 50k then they can't blame the cull
>>16215362That's just one of the regular schizos here. Pretty much every general on /vt/ has a dedicated schizo or three. If you make the mistake of spending too much time here you'll learn to recognize them too.
So what is the date for the cull, 12/26/21~1/10/22?
>>16215796I doubt it would be more than 50% though.
>>16215792We've seen VSPO girls, who had polls with 1000% engagement, quadruple their numbers since 5:40 am JST. It's definitely back for some vtubers.
>>16215845It’s not over yet my account is still flagged
>>16215845it only became alot more prominent after that but apparently some evidence suggest it started earlier in the month by some people in here.
>>16215864I know but I'm saying wait for more EN streams, since Ina seems to have been the EN with the least amount of cull to begin with.
ina's graph is following a pattern. so maybe not fully fixed?
Maybe we will really be back in 2020?
Just in time for my girl big day! She's been beaten around too much lately, hope she still got her 12k karaoke number today! https://youtu.be/c_gZHcV4SxE
>>16215886those spikes are pretty weird
>>16215732WTFWT
>>16215886https://holo.poi.cat/stream/d57Jk8E6pVQina streams always had those weird spikes, you can see it here just smaller since stream is longer so they appear to be shrunk down a bit.
>>16215732Hag love
>>16215802They can't cull what wasn't there in the first place
>>16215912Pajeet bot is probably still culling it but it's improving.Also Koyori's pre cull radio numbers are 6k-8k. If she gets 5k she's probably back.
>>16215433True, we need more EN streams to check.The 2021 Cull™ seemed to disproportionately impact JP steamers.
>>16215911No evidence it's been fully reverted and she has been one of the more culled ENs, probably due to sharing a lot of overlap with other streamer fanbases. I don't expect much from that stream numberwise, but maybe she will do a poll at some point, like for a song choice.
>>16215845Starting point is debatable I feel. In fact, I don't think the same start point applies to every channels.Maybe just throw any number between late December and early January into the trash.
>>16215912that's pretty common right after the 2020 cullso not fully fixed but just rollback to what things were before christmas day
>>16215497Check>>16214585It's different for everyone.
So how many possible 100k streams have we lost? from Holo side I think the New Year, Pekora's tournament, Gura's kimono. Not sure about Mikorone and Towa's part.
>>16215949oh yeah
I don't think they fixed the cull yet. They are probably still unflagging bot accounts
>>16215732Wtf happened
>>16215894Definitely not in 2020, Ina's charts were perfectly flat and smooth, it wasn't until the nonsense 2021 brought that it started getting spiky like that.
>>16215845Some anons said that 18th December seems most likely, but that it really became noticeable after the Christmas relay.
>>16216050Quite a few, there were a ton of big events both for JP and EN. Tourneys, outfits, NY celebrations... all lost.
>>16215986JP streams are the best test. The NijiEN streams went up but not at the JP's scaler factor. Chigusa got more than double back whereas Selen only got 40% back.
>>16216050Niji Mahjong, 3 days worth?
>>162157322k get>>16216073The first spike is accounts getting mass unflagged. The subsequent incline is either more accounts getting unflagged slowly or people seeing the big incline and piling in.
Here is my guess>they are rolling the new feature on their actual servers>there is still people flagged, they will be verified back once they start watching streams>people are being verified on one channel, which translated to other channels>>16215845I think we saw strange stuff on the 22, we started seeing extremely flat graphs
Never been before but you people keep having emissaries show up in other threads and I'm hoping you're not crazy in the home thread, this number shit, right?First question, how much is full-on, you've got it on lock, knowledge about things, and how much is "guesses that fit the framework of info you've been able to see."Second, the ones who run to other threads are saying "fixed," or more often, "reversed." Is there enough data logged to compare the three trends, old, cull and new, to see if it's new or reverted.Third and final, what models are you using to chart between everyone when you try and find a percentage lost. Are you running randomly selected pairs of streams, before and after, through analysis, then plotting data graphs to see if there's a trend line through all the data, doing something else, or "going with your gut?"
>>16216050Towa's mario kart
is it too early to claim ive taken my meds and things will be okay
>>16216050>>16216108Not a NijiNigger but they lost at least 1, maybe 3 from the mahjong tournament. MiKorone and Towa probably got close to 100k too. Towa's live was probably 75k.
>>16216138Beni too. Her real numbers were just around 4x what was displayed.
>/#/ will finally stop being /poll/Thank god
>>16215732NazuBeni almost at 1.5k, most likely bug fixed
Looks like it's being rolled out.
numberbros did we really make it??
>>162162191488 votes
>>16216168A few basic graphs + guessing.
>>16216219Well, we are about to find out in 30 minutes if Hololive is still fucked or not
>>16216219>we will be back to tribal wars generalbros... let's be unity for at least one day more...
>>16216219On the contrary, polls to verify if the cull is still on will be very common now.
>>16216255shut up menhera clock you didn’t even stream the tournament
>>16216168I know everything and everybody else knows nothing
THIS will be the stream. first holo to see the numbers back
>>16216272In before "my side is still getting culled more".
>>16216267Ina's looking good and she wasn't nearly as impacted as others. We're all waiting for pink coyote, she's back if it hits 6k.
ina's still inclining so if she manages to get 10k i'd say its safe to call it fixed
Someone wake up Pekora
>>16216360I railed her hard, waking her back up will be difficult
I know /#/'s feeling on this, but just imagine the relief of being a 2view and having a spike in your ccv like that. The validation to know your small audience didn't actually abandon you, and that you're still being watched.
>>16216081>it wasn't until the nonsense 2021 brought that it started getting spiky like that.So, just fix some bugs in AI.
>>16216168There's some anons who make decent educated guesses, and a few who have marketing industry knowledge, but also a lot of retards who just cherry pick whatever makes their preferred streamer look goodWe won't really know for sure if anything is fixed until >we have a few more days of data
I'm expecting EN numbers to at least double, JP numbers to at least triple.
==UPDATE==they giga buffed their whole site, a bunch of new features are being released, test the main page
Gen 4 anniversary original song music videos so far.【Original Animation MV】天使のagape/天音かなた> 466,297 views Premiered on 27 Dec 2021【オリジナル曲】 FACT/常闇トワ 【フルMV】> 573,462 views Premiered on 3 Jan 2022【Animation MV】 My song / Tsunomaki watame 【original】> 474,283 views Premiered on 6 Jan 2022
>>16216474holoENs? im expecting anywhere from 15%~ in Inas case to 50-70% increase for someone like Irys
>>16216518Watame going strong
>>16216474EN numbers are literally not doubling...Ina is live
>>16216496? it looks the same
>>16216272>unityLol no we will stamp on uppity Nijiniggers like they rightfully deserve
>gets Covid>can't stream>has to sit back with his favorite pastime of looking at numbers>sees what's going on>contacts his buddy, the head of YT GamingL-Ludwig?
>>16216496What was added? I don't see anything special here.
>>16216496Spoon feed us, anon. What are the changes?
Hey before you people get all excited about it being fixed, don't forget to factor in the fact that there's probably a lot of people who will tune into something to see if it's fixed on their own. Both from places like here and places like 5ch and their number-obsessed people.Even in cull mode, the site was at least somewhat proportional to the amount of viewers in stream, so what you think is a 70% boost to normal could only be a 30% boost that was exaggerated by the amount of curiosity particular test cases are getting. Especially when those test cases are decided on in the open and not subject to unaltered observation.It's tricky to get that kind of data and foolish to try and pin hypothesis testing on single sample sizes. You've all taken university-level statistics classes, I assume, you know this, right? I'm not too familiar with this place but I assume you've got understanding.
>>16215802She was approaching Aki numbers pre-cull. I can only hope that holox were patient zero and their number were culled earlier.
>>16216496I see nothing new
>>16216474EN was not culled that bchumcuck.
>>16216545>>16216572>>16216585maybe is not rolled out everywhere, but this was not here an hour ago
>>16216546Ina genuinely hasn't streamed enough to get a reliable data set. Certain ENs have gotten some extremely culled streams recently, especially in the past day (Gura's unarchived karaoke, IRyS' GTA stream, Mori's JP Q&A), I don't think double is out of the question.
>>16216424Tech illiterate anon here. Is it possible that YouTube just did a rollback to a previous version? If so, how possible is it for them to do a system roll back all the way to 2020? Not that they'd actually do it but just curious?
>>16216637aka, the videos pop up dinamically on hover, before they just started playing, now the iframe changes size
8k for a new year's zatsudan for Ina and still climbing? 2021 numbers, right? Ina is a bad case study since she has good viewer retention and doesn't have great VOD views. In the next 3 and a half hours we have Lamy, Bae, and Koyori. IRyS and RBC are streaming a few hours later.
>>16216637That has been there for like a month.
>>16216611were seeing literaly 3views going back to being 4views in real time and by magnitudes of 3x-4x in some cases, its clear somethings been fixed.
>Inner 8k getis this it?
>>16216419They get the internal numbers, it's more the relief of knowing other people know you still have viewers.
Current numbers, are >we back?
>>16216745Reimu...
Next stop, 2020 numbers
>>16216644The 2020 ccv cull was actually intended (tab outs and/or adblocks), so no
>>16216644Rolling back code changes is usually trivial these days since dev tools let you see the entire history of any given part of a codebase, who changed each line and when, etcWith something like this it's more complicated since you'd also have to write new code to go and fix the data that the bad code fucked up (all the flagged accounts)
>>16216496Um, other than Cali under K-pop, it looks kind of the same.Explore page is still awful.
JWU.... Ina at 8k no nike no L.... Bros? Am i dreaming??
>>16216745We're back?YouTube's contract streamers never got hit as expected
>>16216611This is happening across a bunch of streams If you're correct there needs to be 10k~ numberfags jumping in during early morning JP time and afternoon burger time.
>>16216718They didn't get the numbers till much later. The psychological effect is definitely a thing
>>16216780those are gone forever
>>16215689It's a bit scuffed since I was in holodex but here's her final response after she closed the poll.
>>16216745That actually looks like a 2021 screenshot! We back boys!
>>16216795Nope. Some JPs are getting 4 times as many numbers. All these number boosts happened at the exact same time.
>>16216745Time to shit on nijiniggs again?
>>16216518Watame lets goooooo
>>16216798Actually that bump might be his portion of flagged viewers being returned. Time frame matches up.
>>16216518Isn't this kind of unfair to Agape since it's a short version
>>16216863I guess so.LMAO MANJISANJI DEMOLISHING THE GIRLS AGAIN
Bros... it just keeps going upI think I'm gonna make it, even if its not perfect...
>>16216791they also changed the size of the notifications menu, the lkayout is slightly different
>>16216709It's clear that something has CHANGED. Not fixed. Fixed implies that the original problem has been isolated and returned to proper function. But initial data may be deceptive. Long-term monitoring and comparisons will be more reliable for conclusions than single stream observation, especially when it's right in the middle of most of them.Could be fixed. Could be a buoy effect (push something bouyant underwater, and when it pops back up it shoots up high before settling back to normal), could be a test before being pulled again to work on more.
>>16216745>selen gets her numebrs back>mogs te nijimaleslmao
>>16216765I bet Reimu got excited when the Niji EN discord started chattering about it being fixed, only for the cruelty of reality to come crashing back in that "doubling" for her is 500.
>>16216893I mean by that argument it's not fair to FACT either since the other two have full animation MV and FACT is just a regular one.
>>16216947kek
In other news NijiEN males got 16% back. They were getting culled but not as significantly as everyone else.
>>16216745I sure hope not. That would mean Holo dominates again and numberfagging is boring when only one group gets all the golds. The cull is needed.
>>16216947grim
proof nijimales were culled too i think but to a far far less extent. Selen Ike gap went from like 600-700 to 200 and less after the "fix"
based on the data we have, it doesn´t look like anything changed, meybe they rolled-back to pre-CCVid and that's iteveryone is seeing their -usual- numbers from back then
>>16216947well she did see an increase, but only around 100 views
>>16216636Yeah, i noticed that the unarchived and GTA stream had fucked numbers, specially the latter but i didnt saw any irregularity on the JP stream?
>>16216947Well.. it's better than 250 lol
>>1621697315% sounds right for their cull %.
We need to preserve these goofy looking graphs for posterity.
>>16217013That's better than nothing
Well… I want to hear some apologies, /#/
>>16217013That's still 3x or 4x the culled numbers, I'll fucking take it
>>16217006She's playing Apex that's why. She was never culled.
>>16216884>>16217006Meshes well with the small cull Tim got.
>>16217013yeah, Ina flattening to 8~9k, she's the most stable out of all myth
>>16217074Get back to work you whore
>>16217074You broke it in the first place
>>16217074Put a statement out why this even happened, ASSHAT!
>>16217074>fuck up>fuck up again>partially unfucked it>bow dramatically for applause
>>16217074REROLL TO NOV 2020
>>16217074we lost weeks of great numbers, i will never kneel
>>16217025Yeah, she literally doubled the exact same time everyone was getting numbers back.
>>16217017Disgusting.
>>16217092that's a negligible increase
Council will still lose to myth screenshot this
>>16217013I'll fucking take it
>>16217074Fuck you, nijinigger. You robbed us a couple of 100k.
>>16217201Honestly, it would be fucking embarrassing if they did, hope that it doesnt happen
>>16217201water is wet, retard
>>16217201please no my cute wife cant lose with unculled numbers
Here is my guess>they "found" the problem>it's something retardedly complicated, something they can't fix in a reasonable time-frame>they rolled back to pre-cull just for now>they are currently working on a robust system to deploy in the months to come
Gura's reign has come to an end.
>>162170182.8k CCV vs 22k likes (when the stream was live) is an absurd ratio for a stream of that length, that's the sort of likes that Mori got on some of her 12 hour streams. Also had better VOD views after processing than a 5h 16m with double the average CCV and no SC reading segment (the JP stream had a half hour SC segment).
Interesting that some gained far more than others
>>16217092Dr Disrespect got 3K between 12:40 and 12:50
>>16217201Nah, is the numbers are back they should beat Myth is they first outfit after all.
Strange coincidence methinks.
>>16217074Fuck with the ccv so bad that every chuuba fan knows YouTube numbers were never reliable, thanks Susan.
>>16217329Dr Lupo lost 100.
I FUCKING LOVE NUMBERS BROS
>>162167028k for a new year's zatsudan for Ina and still climbing?Yes>2021 numbers, right?Correct
>>16217201There's no way Kronii and Mumei will at least... right?
>>16217201t. Councilfag falseflagging
The numbers...
>>16217409at least not against Kiara's
>>16217201It would be really fucked up if they can't beat Myth with unculled numbers.
>>16217310Bet the based anti numberfag didn’t notice anything happened
>>16217322VSPO was terminally ill. NijiJP was hospitalized. NijiEN females were getting very sick. NijiEN males were stating to catch it. That explains the disparity so far. Ina was pretty resistant to it so far but 8.3k for a zatsudan seems great.
>>16217306Alternately:>didn't figure out the problem>gave up>rollback>actual bots still a problem>have to go for their intended change in another way, will possibly fuck shit up again in the future when they try to implement it
>>16217306this is my guess>roll some stupid shit before holidasy>dont fix it until the main devs come back from vacationthat is it.
Was Namibia the one viewbotting this whole time?!
PSSSSSSSSST>HEY ANONS!Don't you feel silly for having your oshi stream during the worst of the cull!?>AYAMECHADS WIN AGAIN!AYAME, MY PRINCESS; I KNEEL!
>>16217492>namibia is the reason why susan culled holos and nijis
The numbers....they’re healing
I made posts about the bug on raddit and twatter that got big numbers, so I basically fixed it all by myself. No need to thank me
>>16217345>multiple chuubas get a doubling>one chuuba gets barely any movementI wonder what that implies about their audience overlap, other than it being very low, and that whatever was being targeted wasn't shared by that particular demo.
>>16217492>nambia was the patient zero all along
>>16217498heimin falseflag
>>16217201Sana will beat myth ccv lmao
5 mins for coyote
>>16217322We always knew the rates of the culling were massively varied and it pretty much lines up with what people here said - Niji EN males by the smallest amount, EN girls a little more, then Niji JP and finally VSPO got hit hard. It's a shame no Holos or Dotlives were streaming at the time, those would've been the most interesting
>>16217498My oshi held the fucking line
so do we blank out this part of number history from the records and only keep screenshots of the healing day
5 MINUTES NUMBER LADS
>THE "SAWTOOTH" IS BACKThey likely reversed it to mid april 2021, jun 2021
>>16217492>>16217511>namibia mods mass-banning people typing in japanese triggered the AI
>>16217635Which is better for EN since there was another anti-botting wave back in Aug/Sept to squash the English NASA cryptoscams.
Does this mean that the council outfit showcase will automatically beat myth?Would be kinda funny if someone like sana still loses to gura
>>16217625>20k during the end gameGura i kneel
You know, as happy as I am the numbers are back, there was a part of me that was morbidly curious to see just how low it could go.
>>16217679Sana > Gura bait threads lets gooooooo
>>16217638>>16217613>inb4 we see nikes again and everyone loses hope
>>16217627This was basically our 9/11. It will take time to heal. But never forget.
anyone can confirm that they have the same client version?>client.version\x3d2.20220110.00.00this is for me
Ina 100% dabbing on the infidels!
>>16217322Reine didnt have any cull, the numbers were just low as usual. lol
>>16217530We could all see the nijien males were doing the best during the cull. They had the largest percentage of non culled people. Fair play to them, they grew the audience. As we can see from posts on here, that audience fucking sucks but that's besides the point.
>>16217755reimu...
2k waiting on coyote
Fuck I'm scared, what if Asakoyo is still fucked up?
It's like 7 am in Japan are you guys perhaps expecting too much from pink cat's stream?
let's see the numbers fox
I'm so nervous
You people are literally mentally ill
>>16217828if it hits 4k-5k it is a success
>>16217755Marin beating the nijien male, I love to see it!
>>16217740hmmm, checked a different browser, the client version is the same but there's missing features compared to the "new"
>>16217828At least not 3 views
>>16217856Just like our oshis
>>16217828It's 100% not going to be a end-all, be-all litmus test.Is anyone gonna bust out charts of previous, comparable streams in similar scenarios to provide testing results, or are you all going on gut again?
>>16217828We can compare to her precull radio numbers
>>16217895You don't have oshis or anyone you care about, you just look at numbers like an autist
>>16217856nah I'm just autistic
It's looking healthy considering the waiting room size
>Koyori fixed
3 view status AVOIDED!!!!
8.6k at the 1 hour mark.
2.3k waiting room1600 watchingthe drop wasnt as big this time adn already 2kwe are back
WE'RE BACK
>koyori starts recovering at 1,500 CCV and took back the waiting numbers a few seconds afterokaeri!
2.5k waiting room at start and already almost recovered much better than last weeks 4.4k that never hit 2700 viewers
Koyori got her waiting room numbers back in less than a minute... We are gonna make it bros...
koyo's waiting room didn't even take 2 minutes to recover
>>16217963>>16217968>>16217983>>16217987Fuck yeah!
Myth’s numbers were unculled in their 3rd outfit reveal which still happened very recently due to being delayed, so nobody is gonna be comparing Myth’s most recent outfit numbers with Council’s New Years outfit numbers. Most people are gonna be comparing Myth’s 3rd outfit reveal with Council’s New Years outfit.
Okay, how do we celebrate? Big sweaty numbers orgy?
i wanna see Pesan's numbers Ah ah ah ah ah ah ah
DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN, VSPO and Beni were getting fucked!
Fuck so we really did get cucked from big numbers
this is the prev. 朝こよ#12 stream
>>16217942i can tell
IM CUMMING
Pomu also started, please do not forget Pomu (even though she wasn't really culled that bad anyway).
WE'RE BACK NUMBERBROS
>>16218049Yeah by me
>>16218026Do you Believe that anon?.
>>16218084pomu...
Susan HATE. Just THINK of the fucking numbers we got cucked out of.
I still don't trust you Susan
>>16218084>300to be honest that is on her since this is overlap city right now for nijiEN
yeah they've fixed it.
>>16217931I just follow the numbers when my oshi isnt streaming or I'm bored.
>koyo 4k got
A TOASTTO NUMBERSWELCOME BACK AND NEVER LEAVE US AGAIN
>koyori at 4,000 CCV and 1.4 likesvery healthy ratio.
Sorry Pomu, numbers are for winners
>>16218140At least two 100k streams. Mikkorone and Pekora Pokemon.
>>16218167i'll only be happy when i see Pekora getting 40k again
>>16218026Having your first outfit be a NY kimono is a bit weird. Doesn't quite have the "1st outfit" hype. I bet their 2nd outfit ends up beating their 1st one in this unusual case. Also the 30 minute relay vs a full hour stream makes a difference.
>>16218191You must be bored all day every day then, and have terminal mental illness if you can't figure out anything else to do
>>16218026Not if shitposters have anything to say about it. Queue the ‘Myth dead, council inclining’ threads flooding the catalog
>>16218234Niji MK also had potential to go 200k, they got robbed of that and made fun for losing to Peko outfit by 39 viewers
>>16218224numbers are stored in the boobs
Bug is not real
>>16218179Also with Ina, who has a significant overlap with Pomu.
>>16218234Gura outfit and NYE 2022, maybe Towa MK
>>16218234Twab Mario Kart is also a good candidate to be a 100k stream if she's getting back 4x viewers today.
>>16218250says the guy posting in /numbers/
i can finally go back to reading other generals again now that the numbers are fixed, these last 2 weeks were good fun watching schizos on both sides
>>16217679Bruh, its a near certainty that Sana will not beat Gura’s culled numbers. In fact it wouldn’t be that surprising if none of them do except Kronii and Mumei. Kiara’s 3rd outfit reveal didn’t even beat Gura’s culled outfit reveal.
>>16218318I'm not here all day every day unlike you mentally ill retards
>>16218280As bad as this cull has been, it was worth it just for that.
>>16217074Not till you revert 2020 culling you whore.
Dont forget to thank our Frodo
5K asakoyo, holy shit
>>16218280That's NJU anon...Niji MK likely was not culled since it was on the 26th.
Wait so Council's outfit reveal won't be culled? That's gonna be a fun comparison
Bros, who is also crying?
If Ina had started a bit early we would have been able to tell how culled EN was...
>>16218356That ended up just being people auto-raided from Mumei's premier.
numbers are back to post-2020 cull right?
>>16218392anon, can i hug you?
>>16218382It'll be either shitposting about how Sana beat Gura or shitposting about how Sana didn't beat Gura
WE'RE FUCKING BACK
>>16218371Cull was implemented on the 22nd. It got progressively worse though so Niji MK would've been affected minimally if at all
>>16218432Yeah. Pre-2020 will never happen.
>>16218392I know that feel, bro.
>>16218434Of course numberbro, we made it
>>16218364In less than ten minutes.
>>16218432only Gura can prove that
>>16218392I'm not crying but I'm getting autism shakes
More browsers saw an update, test again, I caught the change refreshing an old tab
is not Lulu getting culled as well?
>>16218392>>16218518Anons…
6k and rising, feels like the same sense of satisfaction as after taking a giant dump
>>16218392We made it bros. I love you guys
>>16218422Let me enjoy my headcanon in peace you numberautist
>>16218553She was, but her numbers look better now
>>16218526I saw the change first on Firefox, it wasn't working on Edge, now they have the same features, all in the span of an hour>>16216637 (me)>>16216496 (me)
>>16218392
FUCKING ASAKOYO RADIO7:14AM JP TIMEALMOST 7 THOUSAND CONCURRENT VIEWERSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>16218432Correct.
You guys are weird.
I had an incredibly shitty day, started reading /#/ and felt bad because of usual doomposts and "is it fixed yet?". Seriously, I started thinking it won't ever be fixed several days ago. Caught up to all posts at the same time as numbers started healing, and it felt so... festive. Feels fucking good numberbros.
I am watching Koyori in my phone, pc, television, tablet, laptop, switch, smartwatch, smart fridge, tesla, my mom, father, sister, brother and grandma phone...
>>16218630link the pic fag
>>16218497Mori’s numbers with a pre-2020 cull would be interesting to see now given how much she’s inclined in the CCV department.
>>16218553
>>16214829AAHHHH EMPEROR
>>16218666there's nothing wrong with cumming over numbers
Kson still have such dispersion of likes and views i think her cull is permanent, or viewers come and go, but i don't think that's the case.
>>16218630Get in here JP numberbros. NUMBERS LOVE
>>16218704https://imgur.com/8HLMhpt
>>16218710+20% is a conservative estimate
Koyori 7k CCV, 2.2K likes
I can't believe YouTube actually fixed something...
Can we apologize to holoX now? Gozaru was hit the hardest when she was in the middle of a big incline...
The numbers are finally fixed. I shall now never use this thread again, since I was just checking for updates on the cull. It was fun. Goodbye bros
Looks like they fixed CCVID, but the 2020 cull is still in effect.Means polls will still be fucked up, just not 200% in 2 minutes level of fucked up.I'll take it, Susan.
>>16218739Kson was always bad at viewer retention
>>16218739She's been live for 5 hours, of course her proportion is weird, retard
>>16218739Kson was getting shitty views before all this plus she's playing Ark isn't she?
>>16218743>android phonepostersI don't blame them, 4ch sucks cock without extensions
>>16218772Gozaru was robbed so hard I feel bad for her
>>16218630
>>16218594Obviously that's not true since the premier happened at the end of that spike.Mumei:"startTimestamp":"2022-01-10T03:50:50+00:00","endTimestamp":"2022-01-10T03:53:01+00:00"Ame:"startTimestamp":"2022-01-10T03:01:24+00:00","endTimestamp":"2022-01-10T05:21:16+00:00"Spike:03:41:45 to 03:58:45
>>16218739probably holo eop niggas coming in dropping a like listening for a few moments then fucking off realizing its not coco anymore and she wont interact with their favorite holos again at least not for a long time.
>>16218739I mean it's Ark at 7 in the morning
>>16218739"I support you boss but I ain't watching this shit"
>>16217784I thought Reine ended her stream before it got fixed.
holy shit i came here as soon as i saw asakoyo over 7k, is it over bros?!
>>16218739??? Just check yourselfhttps://playboard.co/en/video/TIPo44XAPOA
>>16218890Read the thread, it happened mid stream and some got 3x the amount of viewers
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT KEEPS GROWING LINEARLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANUMBER BIG EROTICHOOOOOOOUNUMBER HAG
Looking forward to 9 AM JST to finally see my oshi back to her usual numbers
>>16218846And started guerilla at 2AM, at that. People go to sleep at some point.
pushing 7.9k asakoyo i missed it bros
>>16218729The way you guys are it is
WHEN IS GOZARU STREAMING, I NEED HER REAL NUMBERS NOW
>>16204861most viewers of livestrems or any other form of escapism really are males, if anything it's impressive that some of those nijis can attract so many girls into nerdy neckbeard type of hobby and behavior patterns.
I'm the guy who conditioned myself not to get an erection unless a holo stream hit 30k CCV. You have no idea about the relief I feel right now.
>>16218766I actually can’t believe it either. I seriously cannot recall a time that YT has EVER reversed a horrible policy change.
>>16219014This. Also Lap
>>16218955anons, i tink we're back to numberrot numbers...
>>16218826>they're making fun of my postT-thanks I guess
8k
>>16204658arent those numbers perfectly normal for her? If anything it shows that male chuuba audience doesn't really transfer but we expected as much.
>>16218630FUCKING KEK, here is the pic they posted.I think this even may have "legitimated" this humble board (and thread) in the coin slit eyes of our overseas mirrors
>>16218743>nips saw my shitpost claiming to have fucked all of VSPOThey loved my big gaijin cock and I'll do it again btw
Reporting a change i noticed on YouTubei like to watch JOP clip channels to see what they are talking about EN and in about 2 weeks they added a feature to translate Japanese comments (before it only worked with korean)today however it suddenly disappeared, at the same time as the CCV fix.did they just regressed YouTube to a previous version?
>>16218742They’re laughing at you for being cringe anon
Apologize immediately to the pink dog
Let's not forget that she has (the numbers going back) buff
>>16219043It would have seriously affected the credibility of their live streaming platform if their numbers went down by that much. Now why they don't revert back to the 2020 numbers is a mystery.
Just in time for IRyS' half year anniversary, thank you Susan. Imagine a Holo's half year anniversary with just 2-3k CCV or so...
>>16219119Don't look at the likes.
>>16219031It's all sex-deprived SEA bitches.
>>16219043I honestly thought Susan wouldn't have cared.
koyori getting her highest peak since her NY outfit revealwe've made it number bros.....i am happy again
>>16204773I guess we should start watching him now to infect his channel.
I'm happy for you numberfags.
>Ina 8.6k CCV to 8.9k likes>Koyori 8.3k CCV to 2.7k likesAh, 2021, I missed you.
>>16219153Imagine if pekora birthday got less then 15k
The fix got in before Gura managed to get 10k, thank you Susan, but fuck you Susan
>>16218826i enjoy watching my favorites succeed seeing them robbed brought me pain
>>16219225EN will never be allowed to return to its true power.
>>16219202CCVID is over, bro
>tfw the numbers come back right at the start of the holo ARK seasonno... they will think we like ark based on viewer perception... not like this
Just woke up...Was it really solved for everyone?
>>16219225To be fair, the first has been going for only 20 minutes
>>16219043Don't hold your breathe. Susan is a crafty one. This is to give us false hopes before she initiates the 2view holocaust plan.
>>16218630LET'S FUCKING どりゃああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああああ
>>16219112That feature comes and goes for me.
This is now the highest solo Asakoyo since Dec 13th, I think this might've started earlier than we thought
Kiara's membership poptart poll has hit 1000 votes in around 20 minutes. Make of that what you will.
>>16219274...fuck
>>16219043It wasn't really a policy change it seems like whatever their did genuinely went out of control, whereas 2020 was more of a flat "if you fall into this class of watcher, fuck you, you don't count" decision.
>>16219276>everyonewe don't know yet
>>16219274They'll still see the views in retrospect.
>>16218766>>16219043You have to remember Cover and Nijisanji are corporations. Unlike individual content creators that YouTube gives no fucks in screwing over, it will in fact kneel to its corporate overlords.
>strange up and downs for Ina>long waiting room recovery>a big straight line for Koyori>waiting room recovery is almost immediateSo they fixed it for JP but not EN?
>>16218224what is the meaning of this, anons said they all healed
>>16219314maybe /#/ should start their anti ARK holo bootcamp, recruiting the holos who refuse to stream it
>>16219304It means she has 1000 members.
tamaki discovered lilith was actually causing ccvid and with her firing the numbers came backno i will not believe anything else
>>16219392The spikes have been a thing for EN since the 2020 cull.
>>16219392EN viewers with adblock and tabbing out....
>>16219392ina is looking EXACTLY as she did pre-cull, specially the weird peaks
>>16219392Ina's chart is kinda fucked, but that's not CCVID.
>>16217956Pretty weird graph with strange spikes every 3 minutes. Reported this stream to youtube to see what they'll say.
Koyori's gonna hit 10k, right? She's like the 5th most fucked Hololive member so far. Iroha needs to stream since she's lost 90%.
>>16219304That's the last time I do that. No idea how I fucked up saving this as a jpeg...
Ina has been mogged
>>16218955I'M FUCKING DIAMONDS!
Wait did it got fixed? 8.8k is high for Koyori
>>16219392>16219392Looks like they reverted it to 2021 standards. Remember that EN has been hit by Susan's shenanigans since December of 2020. It wasn't nearly as hefty as this last cull, but its clearly still there.
>>16219452maybe 9k? she seems to be leveling out
>>16219392EN's cull is permanent and has been on since 2020
>>16219423A blood sacrifice to appease the youtube gods. Instead of a virgin, they picked the most massive whore they could find.
>>16219392We can now timeloop about cultural viewer behavior differences and adblock usage rates between countries... Home...
My octopus..
>>16219274After the stream is processed they can still see the "real" CCV.>>16219392Anon please, sample rates and misaligned x-axis.
>>16219452asakoyo has never been than popular, but it could happen
whos laughing at pegor postponing her announcement now??
>>16218630What thread is this? I wana see their reactions lol.
THEY'RE BACK
>>16219392>>16219432I legitimately think the spikes in streams are because of adblockers that are blocking the heartbeat and logging API in YouTube that are supposed to report back ever 15-30s. YouTube sees the video stream being loaded but all other telemetry doesn't arrive in time so it yanks the view count.
>3.1k likes to 9k CCVThis feels like really high engagement still.
>>16218955this terror is over
>>16219553SHE KNEW
>>16218092>>16218049I was the 706 missing viewers
>>16219423That's bullshit but I believe it
>>16218432>Ina 8.3k views peak>9.3k likesNo, stop being retarded. Why would they undo changes from a year ago anyway/
>>16219553AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
kek nip antis are seething right now, they can't shitpost about hololive declining anymore
>>16219553Pekora's been doing nothing but basic and debuff content this whole time, basically sandbagging until it went away.
>Asakoyo with a 8kW-WAIT! This could be it? The normal for those isn't like 5/6k?
EN is back to being the lower branch
>>16219392back to the old bullshit.. EN keeps the old 50%cull while JPs get 10-20%
IS THIS THE CELEBRATION THREAD??
>>16219642last week didnt even break 3k bro
>>16219642It's actually abnormally high.
>>16219392That's probably just adblock + holodex
>>16219584Man this stream was fucking brutal. 15k waiting to 1.9k watching.I want to see La+'s real numbers.
>>16219581Yes, everybody is still being culled. Hololive and vtubers in general always had weird engagement metrics. But at least it's not a curb stomp anymore.
>>16219392And here we go, back to chumcucks coping again. I liked this thread more when we had the bug.
>>162195238.8k at 7 am is really good for a news show by a new holo. This is higher than her precull morning shows.
>>16219510I miss CCVID
COME ON KOYORI 10KI BELIEVE
im so happy for mayorin...
I looking at this and it seems pretty normal. I have conducted interviews with leaders in the streaming industry and they have assured me that Hololive numbers aren't getting unculled. They are legitimately going through a natural incline.
yet EN stil same WTF
>>16219432>>16219392Then we must continue to fight!
Last samurai dono, we won!
Ina ended time for 10k
>>16219647>EN keeps the old 50%cull while JPs get 10-20%
Final Ina numbers, 9.8k likes.
It will be ironic if Gura's schedule a guerrilla stream today
>>16219274>council outfits will beat myth outfits numbersoh nyo
It's all fine and happy, but who is going to revive chart-anon? who is going to call @holodata?
IT KEEPSRISING
>Koyo got almost 9k>Check if I'm not flagged anymore>I still amFuck you Susan
>>16219766No way is the two day break time.
>>16219759Ouch, that's rough.
>>16219759I didn’t realize Okayu escaped the cull by that much
>>16219758Those are just normal 2021 Ina numbers. We're probably never going to see pre-cull 2020 numbers again and even if we did, we couldn't tell if they declined or not since it's been a year.
>>16219647We have won one victory. We will be able to win another.Keep stressing youtube on twitter for them to fix that too!
9k got!
>>16219323>susan reverts the pajeet change but leaves the EN cull in
>>16219751Spic schizos reign of terror is over and he is back to licking the boot of JP.
9k, I'm nearly there keep going
>>16219830Flare, Watame, Mio, Sora, Roboco, all of EN, Shion, Nene, Korone, etc never recovered.
the weird cap at the closest thousand is still fishy
Did she actually beat an EN in the most unfriendly JP timeslot or is there some other fuckery going on?
>>16219759sora...
That's fine.
>>16219812there seems to be a lag until it counts you on a 0viewer. It was nearly a minute for me, then after I left another 20-30 seconds for youtube to drop my 1 viewer. Try checking again. (i was culled before)
>>1621975946k to 18k - 60%
A little slow, maybe not 10k this time
>>16219759We just need to accept that we'll never see Pekora casually getting 50k+ on Minecraft ever again.
>XMas 2021 Cull, heavily affected JP. Chuubas everywhere, including JP, EN, ID and KR, raised their voices. Finally some sort of a fix seems to have appeared after slightly less than a month (don't know if it's totally fixed, though, but it's getting better)>XMas 2020 Cull, heavily affected EN. Barely anyone except a few indies complained. Still in place after more than a yearSo it's EOP's fault for keeping quiet that the 2020 Cull is still around?
>>16219923>Breakfast/commute time for Japan>Middle of the workday for burgersAnon...
>>16219918The cull may have been changed rather than reverted.
>>16219933That's fine.
>>16219923It's an extremely dogshit timeslot for EN vtubers too, make no mistake
>>16219968"vtubers are just reclining" was spouted for literally the entire year.
>>16219923it's the worst timeslot for literally everyone
>>16219933the alliance was broken
>>16219947Some of that was just good old reclining, same goes for holos like Marine and 2021-1 Pekora who went from 30k+ to 23k averages.
>>16219923but it's one of the most consistent streams we had
>>16220013then why are 7 nijien streaming right now then?
>>16219966>casually The only time when Pekora was getting those views was during PekoMoona arc.
>>16219923Well, according to pathetic chat activity from holostats, there is actually something fishy. Reported this stream too, for good measure.
>>16219968Emperor Hal, I kneel
>>16219968YouTube saw the -30% watch hours in StreamHatchet in Q1 2021 and didn't revert the 2020 cull, so it must've been intentional
>>16219933Who wouldn’t want more accurate numbers though…
I miss when Ina had smooth charts. But at least this looks like a natural progression, even if its probably still being kek'd
>Cover fights YT tooth and nail to reverse the global cull>Still let’s them keep the HoloEN cullCover doesn’t give a fuck about its English branch.
>>16219947That's a misleading table with those arrows. Korone, Shion, Ayame, and Pekora didn't recover. Pekora is actually down from her post cull numbers.I don't know why you're on the warpath to try and make it seem like JP wasn't hit and wasn't permanently hit.
>>16219968japans actually turn off their adblock while the western fan is an entitled fucko
>>16220070I have no idea. Maybe they're retarded. Maybe they learn to stay the fuck out of NA primetime so Gura doesn't devour them
>>16219941I did stay for a while waiting to get count, but it didn't happenThen I open an incognito window and plays it, while the logged in one still playing too, and it immediately counts, and back to 0 as soon as I close the tabIt's fucking stupid
>>16219968The 2020 cull still affected JPs. Stop spreading the misinformation.
Koyori is too high though, that ain`t normal for her at these hours and its radio. I call bullshit.
>>16219968It's because we thought the 2020 cull was intentional to fuck over adblock watchers or something
>>16219968Correct, than we don't still be quiet! Fight! Fight to the victory!FOR EN!
>>16220070Because EN does not stand for American streamers dumbass.
>>16220070becasue they are dumb
>>16220156Clearly everyone is rushing into it because numbers attract numbers
When I tested out on a 0view before my view wasn't showing up, I tried it again just now and it is, I finally became a human again
>>16220127adblock is something barely anyone uses, just stop going on sites that cause popups.
>we're back to the EN vs JP 2020 cull loopaaah, home
>>16220156The algorithm changed again. It isn't a rollback.
>>16220156literally no competition right now
>>16220156>want to watch a holoJP stream before workHmm I wonder what the Japanese salaryman will choose...
>>16220186Congratulations!
>>16220199She had no competition a month ago, and her numbers were much lower without the bug. It is too weird.
>>16220186im proud of you anon, you finally became a real boy
>>16220156numberbros buff, everyones tuning in for the numbers
>>16220156The cull started in mid-December, we just didn't notice it until it got much worse later
Do you not take it into account how Ina is the one who keeps her viewer count almost intact, yet have the lowest VOD count out of Myth?Wait until Gura comes out before jumping into conclusion
Will council really beat myth in the outfits now? I can only see Kronii and Mumei doing really well since Kimonos don't have the same hype as original outfits
>>16219947>Comparing debut buffed numbersFor what purpose? It's obvious EN was going to recline, cull or no cull.
Reimu...
>>16220156wrong, this is literally the same type of stream on the same time slot from a week before ccvid
>>16220152I didn't say it didn't affect JP. I said it mainly affected EN. Didn't JP lose only 15-ish% (give or take a few percents) while EN lost 30-40%? (I don't remember the exact figures, but something that line from the pic with Gura, Peko and Kuzuha's drops). I don't remember JP complaining about it as much as they did this time.
>>16220135damn anon that sucks then
>>16220265yeah that friday the week before christmas being "drinking time with the bosses" was definitely bullshit in retrospect
Council beating myth's outfit reveals will be fucking funny I won't lie.Still feel terrible for holoX though. Their numbers, especially Iroha and La+, got shat on SO hard.
>>16220156its same as mio news, its normal i think
>>16220289>Will council really beat myth in the outfits now?IMAGINE THE SHITPOSTS!
JST primetime will reign supreme once again!
>>16220341Hopefully they get motivated, they have a lot of buffs>CCVid vaccine>first outfit>Mumei hyping her orisonthe only debuff is Sana, but can be ignored
>>16220315on average>JP lost 26%>EN lost 37%
>>16220158>>16220127You have a proof that is adblock effect?
>>16220337>It's the holidays>It's debut buff wearing off 3 months after debut>People are out for New Years>Vtuber viewers are 10x more likely to engage than other stream watchersThere was a lot of bullshit flying around about why numbers were suddenly down
>>16219812Me too, I hardly do any of the things that are speculated to get one flagged eitherOn my iphone I can play Youtube in a window in the background through the safari browser app like this a lot, could that cause the server to detect me as suspicious or something
AME IS ON THE TELLY
>>16220156I agree, numberrot is back.
>>16220287Good point. Unfortunately Ame is the only Myth scheduled to stream today who could possibly offer evidence to the contrary.
>>16220301oh hey, nijiens stopped being 3views, congrats nijikekssorry about reimu tho
Sumire with 3k for a morning guerilla apex. Twice her recent ccv.
>>16220341its pretty funny, despite her best efforts the lapu reveal is still a 450k view VOD, which is way higher than every EN except gura
>>16219947Korone was 25k to 14k and she's JP
>>16220156Don't care, I rather the numbers be suspiciously high than suspiciously low
>>16220301>confirmed numberfag>has shit numbersmany such cases
>>16219766Shark is resting
>>16220509Laplus's costume is just the result of a VOD going viralHer design + revealing in the first minute became a big meme.
>>16220315Gura and Ame lost 40-50% percent, but the others weren't QUITE that bad.
>>16220515the 11k that disappeared werent
>>16220341my poor gozaru took the hardest Ls for weeksalthough, im worried this is gonna reveal how fucked lui actually is, the poor hag
HOPE is back, Irys's half-year anniversary without the cull.
Mfw i just wake up
the move to twitch crisis was averted
>>16209281>I'm guessing she tried to an-hero by ODing on something.That would be cruel of Norio isn't she her friend?
>>16220486Baelz will stream in less than 20 minutes.
THE NUMBERS ARE BACK AND SO AM ISeems like the ENs are still fucked huh?
>>16220591Still shit original song view tho
>>16220597This
>>16220135do you use Adblock?
What a sad day. Just when you faggots were finally losing interest thanks to the low numbers.
9.7k, don't edge me the whole stream sex coyote, I'm ready to cum buckets
>>16219584Holy shit didn't see this pic before.
Pakoracucks, are you ready to see your rabbit NTR whore decline without any excuses now?
>>16220597Th....they will move...yo...you'll see.
>>16220614Norio dumped Coco over chinks issue.
I can't wait for JP prime time, it's going to be glorious
>>16220698What's going to be your excuse when she breaks 30k for a normal stream?
>>16220568You know Korone's VOD views nowadays are far lower than her VODs at the end of 2020 right?She just reclined when most of her EOP watchers moved onto HoloEN and now watch her clips instead of staying up till 4am in the morning to watch her.It's called regression to the mean.
>>16220677Yes even on incognito so it's not the problem
>>16220740
>numbers are back>childfuckers posters reduced to minimum
>>16220751I think he just wants to be grudgeposted.
VSPO is back, I'm so happy
>>16220698Ace Attorney is a debuff game!
Iroha better boot up Minecraft, what was done to her numbers was a fucking crime.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THE RISE OF NUMBERFAGS IS UPON US AGAIN...
>>16220755dont forget the España Only Peasants getting nimu or whoever the fuck
>>16220597The Twitch shills were going hard these past weeks, hope they fuck off
>>16220289Umm yes? Myth’s New Years outfit reveals were some of the best numbers Hololive had to offer during the cull and they were still less than half as much their numbers from their previous outfit reveal. Meanwhile Council has the buff of it being the first new outfit reveal ever on top of no longer being culled. For some perspective, Kronii getting like 55k for her reveal would beat Gura’s culled numbers reveal, but be obliterated by Mori’s most recent unculled reveal (89k).
>>16220812>right before the CR Cupnice
will the next Asakoyo cover the numbergeddon?
Too bad youtube will never explain what went wrong.
Does this mean Towa is absolved of her crimes?
>>16220755jargon
>>16220845WE'RE BACK, AND WE STILL HATE BLACKS!
shes so fucking close to 10k
you guys need to fucking relax. at least wait a couple of days first before jumping to any judgment. they can still revert the change you know
>>16220597That's literally the best part of the numbers being back
>>16220755It's more the fact she doesn't stream the "EN GAMES" anymore, it's most JP oldfags game now, everyone wanted to see more Doom, Metal slug etc.
>>16220863>he thinks this level of schizo will be stopped that easilyoptimistic aren't you
>>16220729>>16220614The nips know Tamaki is a cut throat bitch, don’t forget she’s gone after clippers before.
>>16220943That's the only part I cared about. See you fags the next Susan fucks everyone over again.
can't wait for koyo to switch to supas right at 9.9k
Koyori-sama, please just a little more... let me cum please...
>gura sister...our dream is over...
>>16220757huh you saying you used adblock even on incognito?
Alright!~
Apparently Kiara said that the numbers are still not fixed?Were we too hasty or the En side is still fucked for some reason.
the next holo streamingwe saw Ina going back to dec. 2021, time to see if hakotaro was affected
So, will the January median ccv post be back? At least we need it for a historical memorial. And should we include waiting room or not?
>>16221001EN has been fucked for over a year
>>16221001hopefully EN management actually complains at youtube instead of just continuing to do nothing
>>16221001is it a members stream? and yh EN seems to just have gone back to the old cull, which was bigger than jps before this december
>>16221048Hey maybe the ENs will take the initiative while youtube’s fixing CCVid. kek
Just because it happened at the same time as the debut buff ending, doesn't mean it was bigger
rat 2k waiting room
>Didn't hit 10kMy joy has turned to ashes in my mouth
>>16220341honestly, council have to get better numbers since otherwise the shitposting will be worse since there is no excuse
Koyori please it's been so long... oh well, 9.7k sure felt good and hopefully Lamy will finish me off
people leaving for waiting rooms already, no 10k for koyo, but this like her biggest stream since the fucking new years outfithappy for her
>haachama was culled with the rest of EN because she used the EN hashtags so much youtube put her with the rest of myth and councilkek
>>16221145kiara would, but who would back her up
>>16221198Well I was almost right>>16215818
what a fucking difference
REIMU STILL GETTING CULLED!>DEFEND THIS!
>>16221297my poor mayorin suffered so much...
>>16221304always a 3view
>>16221304Genuine recline
>>16221304Yuck.
2.7k rat waiting down to 955, time to see how fast it recovers
gura sister...
>>16221304we told you to stop coming here reimu
>>16221304No, it's just the fate of a nijigirl in a collab with the superior nijimales.
>>16221177Her stream is not appearing for me in the channel page, I can only find it on Hololyzer
>>16221177>2.2k waiting>940 watchingfuck
>Koyori about to illegally funnel bae
>>16221304>massive sawtooth patterns for ENs>smooth charts for JPIt's literally not fair. CCV was always bullshit.
>>16221384That's normal. People are getting served ads and shit.
>>16221325These posts have suddenly got so much funnier...
>>16221304Natural recline
>>16221280Mori and Ame probably would if she asked, NijiENs demonstrated they would as well based on their response to CCVID.
So the alliance is over? Is it time to back into Holo vs Niji again?
Here is a funny thing: for some reason, during the cull, vtuber videos had pretty much disappeared from my suggestions.Right now it is normal again
>>16221384That's normal, during peak CCVID it would've gone down to 200
>>16221304from what I can tell, vtubers shouldn't collab with guys unless they are of such exceptional vocal talent anyone they collab with looks like a bitch
>>16221422This is assuming they get "true" pre-2020 numbers on their creator studio.
rat almost recovered already, good sign?
>>16221384Already back to 2k after 3'. Seems to be on par with her pace before 2021 cull
>>16221426it's reimu anon..
what if the cull is the bot overreacting to the anime copyright issue?
>>16221434That didn’t happen for me
>>16221426No. JP vs EN this time putting the boot in much harder since ENfags got uppity during the cull.
>>16221458They don't otherwise they would've noticed the disparity before
>>16221001Which stream did she say this?
Be honest, are you actually gonna shitpost about Council’s outfit reveal numbers beating Myth’s outfit reveal numbers? The fact that we’re even talking about it means we already expect it could or will happen, shitposting is nothing without the element of surprising expectations.
>>16221458Good point. It would have to be Myth and only myth I guess
>>16220597Don't say that, the resident Twitch shill will just jump that Vaybay or someone got over 10k again and is leading the night. Again.
>>16221495you mean the spicschizo and cumbuds?
BROKE THE WAITING ROOM
El Lamy is next, she was GIGA fucked too
Before retards pronounce themselves on whether Bae's numbers are back or not, make sure you're comparing them to similar time slots.
>>16221519it will still be funny anon
>>16221482It's hitting viewers, not channels.
gura bros... our dream is fucked by youtube...
>>16221426HoloJP vs HoloENChumbkek's, prepare to revenge!
I read that everything is back to normal. Is it true?
Waiting room recovered in about 6 mins, similar to Ina.
7 minutes to recover her entire room, similar to Ina i believe.
>>16221121Its a member stream
7 minutes recoveredBae
>>16221546It's ARK though...
>>16221500There's a slight difference between the live and archived analytics even for the 2020 cull. The 2021 cull was too big just to be minor verification differences, though.
Didn't you idiots learn anything? This cull proved that CCV was always bullshit. EN is still being hit harder than JP. Anyone with eyes can tel that.
Last samurai bros, hope you've been sharpening your swords.
>>16221572previous similar stream before ccvid
>>162216472020 cull still active
>>16221697Based on what we've seen pretty much every Ark stream bar RBC and Aki(and maybe even Aki in this case) has been getting 10k actual viewers