/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_eK0ujrhmY

This premired just now with a max CCV of 2k. It is at 15k now. That means the average watch time was 28 seconds. Is it oaten there is this kind of turnover for premiers?

Since 6AM JST, the highest CCV for any Nijisanji stream so far was
>Kanae, on Twitch, with 4644 viewers

No other Nijisanji streamer beat 4k so far

Mori's graph also looks a bit weird, she sort of plateaus after 30 minutes but then starts gaining again like another EN ended their stream despite being the only EN streaming.

>>16194719
of course not.
The premieres are using the same 'verified' status as streams are, so yea, shit's fucked for display reasons.
>>16194713
I swear to god, this better be on YT's end, because if it's not, and it's some autistic fuck trying to bot roboco, I hope they go burn in a fire.

>>16194713

>>16194745
On the Holo side, after Gura's karaoke, this may be the highest CCV so far. Waiting room says 5.5k but it was more like 4.7k and a very gory chart

>>16194745
HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD
HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD

>>16194790
It's not bots. Kanata chart is all mangled as well, >>16194813, with spikes and chasms

>>16194745
>Luxiem is actually Niji's best chance at 10k now
The state of things...

Towa

>>16194886
At very least now it's not "L'ing", it became a mix between "niked" and "L'd"

>>16194713
Wtf happen here??? 1k down to 600 then up again to 1k???

I guess you'll have to kneel.

>>16194713
Ark now a buff game lol.

2 days of Gura mogging

>>16194951
it is still happening
every 5min roboco flips betwen 1.5k+ to 900 now
doesnt look like bots toherwise it wouldnt last from more than 2 instances.

>>16194713
>>16194951
She got the Amecron variant of CCVID. See >>16183963

Lize with Genshin, escaping from the nike

>>16194944
Having different viewers from rpr might be helping.

>>16195016
to beat CCVID you just need to get the covid carriers ! of course!

>>16194756
Obviously she got culled hard today as well, but the gains can be explained with her making progress in the game too.

Chihiro, only cleared for 2k because he audience doesn't have enough social credit points.
>should have watched more Ludvig, peons!

>>16194713
She's the only one with that sort of graph streaming now.

>>16195016
ifshe is pulling gacha then that is low for her
otherwise it would be in her average

Who's ready for pekora sub 8k stream?

for a brief second roboco broke the 2k bar

Like 6.2k
The graph looks fine

Rrat : Roboco is a bot

>>16195163
>Roboco's fans are called Robosa
>Personified as robots
>They're all literally viewbots

Kronii and Kiara going balls deep on those Korean viewers

>>16194745
It feels like it's been forever since Kuzuha strolled into an easy 40k for a gimmick stream. Now the gimmick goldholder is a british flip playing Ring Fit. The state of things.

>>16195140
>Like
LIZE HELESTA

6.8k btw

>>16195231
It's a good idea. I've caught parts of a few Kiara SC readings recently and she is building a huge contingent of korean fans.

>>16195231
HoloKR soon

>>16195231
It's a bad move imo. The gooks invading Kiara's chat are driving the EN speakers away.

>>16195343
Someone post the /jp/ predictions greentext

>>16195343
That's how life is with hololive, the sword it carries into battle is being more international than other companies and that everyone is invited.

>>16195343
just like how holoen or nijien males is a terrible move amirite?

https://pastebin.com/qh6Tta3h
There's a possibility that the reason for the cull is that Google is going full jew over the advertisers, but they "accidentally" made the bot too overzealous that's why the decrease looks blatant.

>>16195453
HoloJP only started inclining in Japan after EOPs stopped invading their chats

>>16195491
from where does this comes from and why should it be trusted? Also TLDR

>>16195506
It's about method over results. The philosophy allowed for the growth even if the minutia may contradict the philosophy.

>>16195343
Rumao I'd rather cultivate a fanbase I can understand rather than gooks that I can't understand

>>16195532
I also saw the date
>2014 talking about 2012

>>16195491
>227,478 views
Please gain traction.

>>16195506
You're retarded

>>16195491
It's a completely open secret in the marketing industry that Google cooks the shit out of their books and are scamming both sides and stealing everyone's money, I've said as much in this thread before
The thing is, they're the only game in town, you either let them rob you or you don't advertise on the Internet (outside of Facebook if your target demo is racist aunts)

>>16195506
Lies. HoloJP was inclining well before Myth dropped to suck off the EOPs away from the JP Holos.

>>16195619
It's true. Just look at Towa for example. Had an EOP dominated chat and was pretty much irrelevant in Japan. Now that they got bored of her she's decently popular there.

>>16195666
Fuck off idiot.

>>16195231
haven't watched kiara sc reading in a long time. does she have korean gachis?
as far as i can tell gura has exactly one. ame has multiple sc senders but they aren't consistent. bae and kronii seems to have the most.

>>16195655
So Youtube sheared the sheep close enough to skin it this time.

>>16195666
Shut up retard

>>16194713
this is getting out of hand

>>16196082
It's becoming a seismic reader graph.

>>16196082
aren't robosas technically all bots? i don't think she will get out of this swamp

Okay, time for a little experiment. Here's a vtuber who hasn't streamed in a year. Will she get culled on her return stream?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYuiA_QL1QY

Not bad

>Pekora dropped from 8k to 1k...

>>16196082
She’s predicting an earthquake at Japan

>>16196141
We all know why that stream is happening. Her channel is fine but her viewers are infected.

I really really really wonder what happened. I'm not a dramafag but I want to know.

No medals are to be awarded for sub 10k streams. There is a none zero chances Gura's un archived karaoke will be the only stream above 10k today.

Pekora and Fubuki

I kneel.

>>16195655
"it would be simpler just to skew
the report data across the board to remain consistent and implement features globally"
Well, that and "green listed accounts" would explain why the big normie streamers appear unaffected. They've probably been listed as "DO NOT TOUCH" with all these fuckery measures and everyone else has to suffer under Google's 'experiments'.

Fuck, I'm retarded, I thought I had the amount in that screenshot.

>>16196326
Damn even indie start doing these vote huh

>>16196183
I love Lize

Choco got hit the worst

>>16196473
I'm amazed with how high her waiting room is for ARK. She is a big ARK autist but even then, that's very good

Judging by the likes and post stream VOD views, I get the feeling that Towa stream might've been as popular as one of her early RPR ones. Like 12-13k or so.

>>16196360
jesas more than 600% engagement 5 mins in ccv might still be verifying cause the live stream just started but damn

>>16196473
That's what she gets for playing the shitty game

>>16196592
>Like 12-13k

>Pekora stabilizing just above 5k

Pekora wanted to make an announcement for her birthday today but management didn't want her to, and she cried on stream. I'm gonna fuck them up so hard for shitting on their best talent and making her cry on stream.

kek, whatever Youtube is doing to "fix" it is only making it more retard

>>16196629
I kinda want to see a reality where Pekora has a complete menhera breakdown over the numbers. Like would it happen if she was the only one getting hit? I'm a holofan(chumbud) but I'd still like to see it.

>>16196183
It took her 7 mins to recover her waiting room. She's being hit with a 25% cull.

How come Myth's original song didn't get as many viewers as fast as EN Ochame Kinou? I insist its not just because it's an ALL-EN effort but because that song attracts JOPs.

>>16196291
Sharkie, I kneel!

>>16196680
5 Holos vs 11 Holos

>>16196641
Post proof.

>>16196360
>started streaming 7 minutes ago
>poll was created 4 minutes ago
Give YT time to process viewers and let tourists decide if they want to watch the stream. Early polls don't make sense

>>16196680
ochame kinou is also just better done than journey like a thousand years

I noticed something interesting on my oishi's numbers. Vei's average viewers are down from 12,307 to 11,519 and the latest CCV in her last 3 streams failed to break 15K (not accounting the 17K stream on Jan 9 as it was raided when she had 13.5K) like the Jan 3, 4 and 5 streams. Nevertheless, it is still a big jump from Dec 8- Dec 20 streams that had her barely hanging on from 9-10K CCV.

Another thing, her VOD views took a sharp climb. Vei used to never get 200K+ VOD views yet she's getting it regularly since January 3 even if the last 3 streams failed to break 15K CCV.

I thought she was reclining due to not surpassing 15K CCV for 3 streams but I'm glad I did my reps and was wrong.

https://twitchtracker.com/veibae
https://www.twitch.tv/veibae/videos?filter=archives&sort=time

>>16196716
Do your reps retard

>>16196716
She literally cried at the beginning of her stream you dumbfuck. You just had to be here.

>>16196680
Ochame Kinou is a meme song. Also, Originals are always a debuff compared to covers.

>>16196641
If there is one constant to Hololive it's that all of their management should start their day with getting a beating.

>>16196707
I insist that's not it, Council isn't as popular as to attract that many viewers that fast. I blame the JOPs.

>>16196641
Every january kek

>>16196721
okay

>>16196732
>>16196734
Imagine watching streams.

>>16196729
Nice oishi bro, who's your umai?

>>16196750
Yeah retard because her birthday is on January.

>>16196641
It was probably something dumb.

>>16196776
No shit!

>>16196736
Excepr Reflect, of course.

>>16196749
Ochame Kinou is a meme song. Ofc it's gonna get more views.

>>16196759
Are you retarded?

>>16196641
>Best Talent
Can't even get 10k ccv anymore. It's over for her.

>>16196774
Also her

>>16196788
Of course, it's pekora afterall
Bitch always propose a retarded idea then get disapproved, and finally cry on stream like lil bitch she is

>>16196818
Your fucking shark is forced to make unarchived streams to reach that number so give it up cumtard.

>>16196840
>He thinks I'm a holofag
Kek. My Oshi is inclining and will soon mog all of Niji and Holo.

Any new twitter responses?

>>16196867
>relying on a PR bot account for her oishi's numbers.
The absolute state of Holokeks and nijiniggers.

>>16196892
Why are you in this thread

I legit had a dream about numbers actually rent free, i need a break from here hopefully its fixed when i decide to return

>>16196867
https://twitter.com/teamyoutube/status/1326355021093498880
If they do fix it they're probably not going to say anything, that would mean admitting they fucked up.

>>16196859
fucking namibiafags always shitting up the thread again, reminder that Oryx-chan is a whore that needs to present her ass live to get decent views

>>16196592
The video ended with immediate 150k range views, crazy.

>>16196903
Because I'm a numberfag that now dedicates a portion of my life analyzing my oishi's numbers weekly.

>>16196923
I recognize those numbers

Watame Night Fever soon, time to see how much worse it does compared to last week.

>>16196934
Your oshi sucks

>>16196949
Thanks, she does an excellent job. I'm super proud of her.

>>16196923

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw3mvmJdPRs

>>16195343
Prove it

how big do you guys think Gura's numbers actually are?
yesterday she got 20k

>>16196925
shut up Nijikek, Giraffe-Ayame finally showed up yesterday in the waterhole, and got us a peak of 5k

>>16197046
Somewhere around 30K-40K if her last unarchived is to be used as an indicator.

>>16197004
That seems like an extreme discrepancy

>>16197046
Judging by everything else it was probably a 50k~ stream.

Choco's is looking like a more subdued version of Roboco's.

>>16197093
Where the hell have you been the last week?
Numbers are fucked across the board, and the worst part is it's not consistent due to different % of each chubba's viewerbase being different amounts of fucked.

>>16197093
>>16197004
I mean... they need to shut the hell up about whatever's happening in the background or they might face Susan's demonitization button without notice.

Ark is buffing choco up, nice.

>>16195506
>>16195666
why are chinks like this?
is this because hololive doesnt give a shit about them?

>~10%

>>16197185
Poll length though

CCVID... but Fubuki still mogget Peko...

>>16197004
D-do we times 3 everything now?

>>16197181
I thought it’s the Flips trolling. But on the other hands, the chinks are persistent for the wrong reasons

>>16197212
Where's the screenshot from? Something unrelated?

>>16197206
She still play fking pokemon? It's ark time now.

>>16197197
yeah because its normal to get 855% poll participation in 18 minutes

>>16197212
Botan had 4x as many.

>>16197197
it was above 1k in 5 minutes

>>16197197
poll length kinda doesn't matter when it has 1000%~ engagement... to get those numbers, 200~ people left and entered more than 10 times in that given timeframe

>>16197046
60k

>>16197206
Glad someone else noticed. She's strong even when not shiny hunting. It truly is the rise of fbk.

>>16197239
>>16197249
>>16197250
I agree, I know it's fucked, just saying that someone will seriously use that argument. Probably better to make a series of screenshots, one showcasing the first minute, and one at the end.

>>16197235
It was Koyori Passpartout stream, the number is her drawing price tag
iirc the one where she collab with marine

>>16197281
Just because someone will use that argument doesn't mean you should make it for them

>>16197281
and they would be laughed at.
you cannot seriously say you can get nearly 100% participation in under 30 minutes

>>16196641
Knowing Pegors, it's probably another dumbfuck idea that'd be incredibly good if it isn't for the similarly incredible risk.

>>16197370
sorry missed a 0, should be 1000% in under 30 mins

>>16197185
240 avg CCV, 46 minutes and 4.1k views

Watch time is 2.7 min/view
I would say that her average CCV should be about 1k

>>16196641
You sure that management is the one who didn't allow her to make announcement?

>>16197206
fbk vod views = 91k
pekora vod views = 99k
started at the same time, theyre pretty close

>>16197424
you can't even use vods this early right now, Mumei had 40k people votes on her poll but she had 31k views right after ending her live stream

>>16197453
She stated that after the PekoRap intro. She had a hoarse voice(which is kind of exceptional on a weekday at this hour, she must have slept after hearing that from the management), explained the thing then started crying.

>>16196641
fuck off tranny

>>16197277
Ark is a buff game for now because it's been a long time since they last played it, so it's "fresh" content for the fans.

>>16197561
Probably something is not ready yet

>>16197517
Fubuki 3.4 min/view
Pekora 3.2 min/view

New rrat: The CCVID is real and is spreading across VTubers quickly might even spread to normie streamers like Ludwig and Valkyrae. It also affects the real numbers shown on the channel creator's page as well. The only reason chuubas and livers aren't talking about it too much or is showing their CCV analytics to calm everyone down is because YT truly fucked up. If this CCVID blows over to normies, their dreams of competing Twitch will be crushed. So until it's fixed, Youtube is engaged in keeping this as a secret while hydrating you niggers with promises of "looking" and "fixing" in order to buy time and stop you from being uppity to get noticed by normies. Hololive and Nijisanji's hands are tied on the matter, either comply or get fucked.

>inb4 why couldn't Hololive or Nijisanji post to calm fans.
If they tell fans something is definitely wrong, Youtube wouldn't look great and they would look unattractive to Twitch streamers.

>inb4 Kanae and Botan talked about it
wow people lied. Next!

>inb4 Selen's screenshot
What is photoshop?

>>16197561
>asking for management permission
*LAUGHS IN HAACHAMA*

This whole number thing is hilarious to watch.

>>16197547
Mumei's view counter was frozen

>>16197648
She said In mid July that a SUMMER cover song would be released, it didn't. She seemed to be eager announcing a 3D Livestream that no one has ever done before(that announcement was supposed to be today), it didn't happen. I'm pretty sure it's something else that is fucking things up, and not her crazy ideas always getting rejected.

>>16197658
whats the point of calculating avg watch time when you know both your variables are wrong?

If this winds up causing Pekora to leave, will it hurt Cover and Hololive in any ways?

>>16197717
which is why we can't use vod views this early right?

>>16197660
Ludwig's and Valkyrae's numbers didn't drop since late December, on the contrary. They're whitelisted from that damn CCVid thing

>>16197660
if Youtube was worried about this they would have reverted the late december 2021 update already. They are at best trying to mode the code on the run, without any testing (again) which will just make things even worse

>>16197517
>VOD cope

I remember how Pekora's fans laughed when the Gura fans say that VOD Gura was bigger. So little time passed and they themselves began to use the VOD numbers.

>>16197748
Hopefully. I want Cover to burn down in hell after today even if some of the members don't deserve what would happen afterwards.

>>16197681
Looks bad, but at the same time 4-person collab with 4 POVs means some of those number losses may be from multi-tab. Still looks bad regardless.

>>16197732
Shit happened. Suisei had a cover with Hanabasami Kyo last year that was cancelled several hours before premiere. This is two years in a row for Pekora's announcements to have a problem and according to another thread they already gave her okay to announce it today so it's not some idea that got rejected. I'll listen to the vod later.
>>16197748
Yes.

>>16197391
Are retarded or something? The announcement was about her b-day

So is anon doing the "Cover bad, holos will surely all quit" routine in here because hlg/hlgg have people who actually saw the stream and know she just said a thing wasn't ready on time and never mentioned management, and will tell them to fuck off

>>16197963
People here don’t watch streams so it’s easy to bait

>>16197681
Another proof that those who watch several streams at once are marked as bots.

>>16197963
Retard. Management said it was okay to talk about the announcement today, until a few hours before the stream(hence the beginning of her poem[sorry, I lied]).

>>16197963
No it was because of the managment, that anon is not wrong.

>>16197819
yeah this speaks of a tremendous lack of version control or test environments, possibly both. If they are really doing this shit on the fly this means that youtube is unironically operating like a mid 90s game dev

>>16197963
not sure on hlg but hlgg is currently occupied by cuckposter, so he doesn't want her rrat to be drowned out

>>16198058
Youtube is fucking terrible, you should know this already. Always have been

>>16197963
No shit, the schizo has never done stuff like this before

>>16197819
i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't keep any backups

>>16198058
Google uses a monorepo containing everything in the entire company, so to find the change that broke youtube they have to bisect a billion commits to adsense and google docs and whatever else
People who work there will tell you "you get used to it" or "actually it has upsides" because they have Stockholm syndrome and can't admit that it's incredibly retarded

>>16198108
/hlg/ is discussing who is Luffy's father.

>>16197736
That's exactly why I'm calculating the watch time anonchama
If the CCV is wrong the result will be skewed and you can make estimation of how much it should be. In this case it should be 3 to 4 times higher.

>>16197736
I'm doing this because the view counter is not frozen this time

>>16198108
Hlgg is currently a porn dump because no mods no gods
>>16197760
>>16197725
>>16197661
>>16197645
>>16197630
>>16197588
>>16197586
>>16197576
>>16197452
>>16197365
>>16197315
>>16197289
>>16197186
>>16197098
>>16196969
>>16197799
>>16197788

>>16197866
How the turntsbles...

>>16197681
They didn't pay the collab fee... to Susan..

>>16198108
>>16198164
which one is which i never know
is hlg the one on jp and hlgg the one on vt?

>>16198172
>I'm doing this because the view counter is not frozen this time
meant to >>16197787

>>16198243
Correct

>>16198243
yeah, there is a hlgg on jp and i'm pretty sure theres a hlg here sometimes but they are dead

>>16196641
The absolute state of /peko/ aka /#/

>>16198211
>deleted

>>16198393
These are still up
>>16197645
>>16197588
>>16197586
>>16197576
>>16197452
>>16197365
>>16197315
>>16197186
>>16197788

>>16197813
Which is why I said they might, their audience doesn't spam emotes as much as us and their emote spam has more variety (like monkaS, Weird Hamp, etc.)
but it might still be susceptible given enough time to fester

if this doesn't get fixed, i might just quit vtubers, im to insecure to watch 2views

>>16196641
Just a reminder: management was right about blocking Coco's ideas

>>16197819
Again, they fucked up. Fixing a rogue AI like that takes time. It wouldn't surprise me if what this anon said is true. >>16198147

>>16198503
She did a good job of farming hardcore gachis. Did anything ever come out of the “big project” she was working on since graduation?

>>16198528
>not keeping backups
no way this huge corpo could be so stupid...right?

top SC earners for yesterday?

>>16198608
I dunno but being a cheapstake has its own immense drawbacks.

>>16198528
>>16198608
Like I said in >>16198148 they have a full history, but it's combined for every product in the company, so it's almost completely unreadable

>>16198608
most corpos these days operate on fucking 10 years of spaghetti code and don't invest on anything that doesn't return value immediately.
it's more like they won't waste money on this even if it fucks them over, cause they're short sighted

>>16198674
What an absolutely retarded way to organize things.

>>16198674
>it's almost completely unreadable
so whats the point of having it?

>>16198731
small indie company please understand

>>16198708
Unfortunately this is all too common. Especially in the manufacturing sector where I’ve seen critical programs still running on windows 95 or dos or 30+ year old PLC infrastructure that’s poorly maintained and documented.

>>16198147
not a youtube employee but i used to do "in production" debug for a major payment processor. rolling back the offending code is usually not the problem. undoing the damage that the bad code have done to the database and related processes is a much trickier problem. you are effectively have to write a new code just to patch the dataset.

Why aren't they complaining on Twitter?
They are huge enought to ruin the day of YouTube's PR department and get a few headlines

>>16198731
>Everyone knows you're supposed to put your code in source control
>Cloning hundreds of repos is inconvenient, let's just put everything in one big one
Then you mix in Google's habit of just piling more workarounds on top of the problem instead of fixing it: they developed a set of special tools to make working with the one giant repo easier rather than just splitting it up like everyone else

>>16198645
Just search "today's superchats" in the archive next time

オワコン

>>16198948
Susan will push the demonization button, that's why.

>>16198983
Sultan...

>>16198983
消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す消す

>>16198948
The normal state of a Japanese is to dogeza to corporationa

This is why someone like Dr disrespect could fucking Bury YT PR and force a response, but you won't see Cover swing the PekoGura hammer at YouTube

>>16199028 (me)
Demonization* I hate autocorrect

>>16198948
nip companies typically do this kind of stuff behind doors and assume youtube to be the same way, unfortunately youtube is an american company that only responds to public outrage.

>>16198489
>find a nice, lovely 5 view in need of some attention and support
>turns out she gets 60 viewers on average so her self esteem is pretty okay
It's repugnant. I need real numbers so I can find people to give attention to who need it.

>>16199062
ganbatte anon

>>16199028
>will push the demonization button
>>16199062
>Demonization

i'm getting used to the new normal. Suisei has 4.200 people watching and I don't feel anything.
In fact, I feel kinda proud it's hitting her less

>>16199062
Ganbatte

>>16199062
No, autocorrect was right

>>16199144
The real test for her is karaoke stream.

>>16199104
>>16199151
Demonitization
Thanks, anons. It's super hard when you have a small touchscreen and big hands

>>16199062
You can do it anon!

>>16199206
>Demonitization
>Thanks, anons. It's super hard when you have a small touchscreen and big hands

Ganbatte anon

>>16199206
Almost there

>>16199206
Keep trying >WE believe in you anon

Second time this happens to Vox.

>>16198859
I imagine in the case that they are fixing it (kek) it’s gonna take a while so they don’t fuck it up even more. Did the sudden removal of Likes ever get fixed? I wasn’t really tracking that.

>>16198973
>Akina gets first for ballin'
>Debi is up there for being a failure
>>16198966
I can see why they'd do everything in their power not to fix it if they just can't roll things back. It'd be pure stupidity not to change the version with the big update they did last month. Maybe you don't have to keep stuff from decades ago but definitely from months ago.

>>16199365
that got fixed within the day, and it seems to be a server processing thing, rather than as a result of a code change like ccvid

>>16199144
Five Stages of Reality Acceptance:
denial
anger
bargaining
depression
acceptance < You here

Now we should all stop being angry or denying, and just accept the new reality.
And live with her.

The weird graphs mean youtube is actually "fixing" CCVID. Relax numberbros

>>16199331
Reverse botting?

>>16196680
It's an English song, which automatically filters most weebs and JOPs.

Good god, don't tell me Gura is going to win gold today

>>16199504
t.

I wonder why Iroha got hit so hard, she loses 90% of her waiting room and never hits it again

>>16199591
with CCVID you're lucky to see 15k+

>>16199583
Gura's Target for Love cover has done very well despite being an english only cover with ESL lyrics to boot.

>>16199206
>>16199062
>>16199028

>>16199591
Likely as the only Holo stream over 10k, with Yashiro being the same on the Niji side

Look at that Matrix Dodge to avoid hitting 12k (11998)

>>16199626
the westerner google fears The Samurai

>>16199626
Probably a lot of people watching her are already in the box, so....

>>16199644
That has the benefit of being attached to an Anime game. Thousand years is straight up just American Pop.

>>16199591
2 days in a row now, last samurais in suicidewatch

Pekora keeps reaching 6,004, then loses around 300 a few seconds later, it already happened twice during this stream, how weird.

>>16199626
>Susan Diane Wojcicki was born on July 5, 1968 to Esther Wojcicki, an educator of Jewish descent

>>16199688
It's vastly more popular than the original video of it. I'm pretty sure the game doesn't matter at all.

>>16199780
If it's happening once every 5 minutes, it's the same thing that's happening to Choco and Roboco

>>16199591
Gura is Last Hope (Sorry Irys) Hololive

>>16199038
Wrong conjugation

>>16199504
There's an even crazier explanation for weird graphs like >>16183963 and >>16196082 , they are Susan using bots for her own insurances and lifebuoys. Remember if YT Gaming loses to Twitch, that's tens of millions of dollars lost to Youtube while Twitch sits back and relax. Alphabet execs won't tolerate that and they will put Susan and that YT Gaming's head cryptonigger in a chopping block. Simply put, Susan can tell execs that those graphs are people using bots in real time. This puts the blame not on the two but to the apparent """"botters"""" that caused the downfall of YT gaming and millions of dollars. They would still get punished, but not as much as say creating the rogue AI that killed Youtube Gaming.

Why did the cull suddenly hit all these vtubers after only affecting English ones?
Did some sort of catastrophe happen as YT HQ?

>>16199871
you are hurting me. Don't show me this

Mysta's poll confirmed that yes, the boys are affected by the cull if people still doubted it.

>>16199940
The next update on New Year's that flagged emote spammers as bots caused this shenanigans. Add that with YouTube's complacency and being a cheapskate and well you get this.

>>16199814
I don't think you understand. Blue Archive is currently extremely popular in JP otaku circles (western circles less so because of the censorship fiasco).

Target for love got triple buffed (Gura + popular game + media attention from the controversy that happened literally the day before it came out).

>>16199688
BENEFIT? it's doing horrible numbers for Gura's channel song standars, it's a cover of a song whose original has barely any views, it was reuploaded to 2 other Blue Archive channels, and it's shilling a gacha game. This song is debuffed, not buffed

>>16199871
Almost like she's looking at the graph

>>16199969
Pic?

>>16199969
Alt+PrtSc

>>16199889
Maybe he's swearing to delete youtube.

>>16200024
You're a fucking tard to call that song buffed

>>16197212
Ideally, you want make sure by checking each channel's cull rate individually (watch the view counter on livecounts.io for a 5-10 minute snapshot), but if you want to "score" it, yes.

>>16199591
That's Gura Gold, Vei Silver and Ninja Bronze.

>>16199969
Nigga PRINT SCREEN you dumbfuck.

>>16200075
>>16200076
>>16200142
For some reason anon only mentioned that poll after it had been running for 30 minutes

>>16199907
If anything YouTube figures that Twitch will end up eating shit by playing with fire (DMCA). Twitch legal strategy seems to be to pretend nothing is happening and only take action when they get a takedown request. I imagine what the large corpos are doing is trying to get enough data to argue that safe harbor doesn’t apply to Twitch which would open them up to a ton of legal liabilities.

>>16200151
Of course

>>16200151
Not only that, that shit was 15 minutes BEFORE the stream started.

Was this thread that bad a year ago?

>>16200151
30 mins but ridiculous participation rate

>>16200192
This thread didn't EXIST a year ago you absolute nigger.

>>16200207
also just noticed he had the poll up prior to the stream starting

>>16200192
>a year ago
Anon.. I..

>>16200192
This thread was only ever good when we numberfagged trees and animals
>>16200207
Fucking worthless >>16200189

>>16200176
That's not gonna last long when Twitch starts slapping wrists. Starting from Poki.

>>16199969
>Niji
>Poll
>No pic
Always

>>16200207
It's still higher than you would expect but it's not even close to the 200-300% in 1 minute examples we've seen
If his viewers all watch for the average watch time then that's not even 100% participation

>>16200029
>>16200091
I don't think you retards understand what being buffed means.

Just because it's buffed doesn't mean its a instant hit if the base value of the song is low, it just explains why the song did better (asserted by >>16199644) than an equivalent song.

>>16199659
Usually 12k-15k with proseka so I guess he’s only hit a little

>>16200266
The only way YouTube survived legal scrutiny is by promising to implement both content id and the strike system, in addition to successfully arguing that manually moderating their amount of content is impossible.
Twitch doesn't really have that argument

>>16136474
Well whatta ya know, she barely just made it.

>>16200305
I'm thinking you're just retarded.

>>16200207
Jesas. Nijiniggers really don't know how to numberfag.

>>16200207
The votes before he started were under 1k, and he only had like 1.2k people in the waiting room when the stream started. I'll screencap it next time though.

>>16200349
Nice argument retard.

>>16200376
Proof with a screenshot or Nijinigger lying as per usual.

>>16200207
>30 mins ago
this dumbass anon is doing this one purpose, every day with this retardation

>>16200333
Especially when it’s top streamers who are also partnered and have twitch staff on their chats while willfully and knowingly breaking DMCA (technically they’re distributing and making money off it so it’s worse).

>>16200412
All you have are baseless speculations unsupported by any data. There are no arguments, you're just retarded.

>>16200024
I wouldn't call it extremely popular based on its revenue.

>>16200376
So that means their number is pretty much untouched.

Twitch isn't gonna ban streamers without receiving a dmca first due to dmca safe harbor law. If they start banning first, they will be held accountable and can't play the ignorant card.

>>16200478
It feels kinda funny that the NijiEN males crowd is starting to spread the cull thing around themselves as well to prove their numbers are higher. If you look at the VoD and CCV, it's pretty much proven that NijiEN males are not affected much by the cull.

>>16200495
>Twitch isn't gonna ban streamers without receiving a dmca first due to dmca safe harbor law
Youtube only still has the safe harbor status because they starteed pre-emptively banning and making manual DMCA strikes extremely easy

>>16199591
Do we get a CCV hard carry meme image with Gura's hat now?

Another probable 3.5k stream got heavily culled.

>>16200420
>>16200564
Holobronies stop coping. They are being affected too, everyone is. Mysta is mogging everyone fair and square.

>>16200495
Safe harbor only applies if
>prior to receiving a takedown notice, the service provider must not be aware of the infringement or of facts or circumstances that would make the infringement apparent
Twitch had staff watching the infringing streams and typing in chat.

>>16200583
don't shitpost with my son.

>>16200478
No you dumbass, that means he got double the votes as viewers showed.

>>16200641
Nijinnigers still can't accept the reality

Funny how times changed in this thread ever since the CCVID came to be last year

>>16200495
They’re stuck between a rock and a hard place. They can’t hand out bans preemptively but they also can’t control what their partners do. They have to hope they stop of their own volition.
Their top streamer is actively making it worse since he’s intentionally breaking DMCA to spite them.

>>16200777
They can ban people pre-emptively if they notice it happening - in fact they're legally obligated to do so. Safe harbor only applies if the service provider doesn't know the infringement is happening *and* makes a reasonable effort to ban repeat offenders from their platform.

Dumb rabbit finally found the ditto shiny, then proceeded to let it kill itself instead of using a proper ball to catch it... Lui must be seething right now.

>>16200856
Can’t you post this in another thread?

>>16200718
>4k likes to 5.6k viewers
>18.5k votes in 45 min
'Normal' rates according to coping holobronies. Can't wait until he shows his analytics. The RingFit stream must've been at least a 15k in reality.

>>16200641
You really have to cope right now? Didn't the numbers yesterday open your eyes about these guys not being affected?

This thread sure goes to shit everytime Mysta streams during SEA/JP Primetime

>>16200471
It's not extremely popular, but everyone and their mothers have been pumping out Bunny Asuna fanart for the past 3 months.

It's also much lower barrier to just watch a youtube video than it is to spend money in an objectively p2w gacha.

Sure if Gura covered a FGO song, there's no doubt its views would leapfrog most of her
VODs within a day, but thinking that being attached to a known franchise wouldn't help her views is straight up being delusional.

>>16200641
This is why I hate Nijisisters

>>16200881
This is news thread though no? Numbers are shitty because of a dumb new algorithm, this thread is thus rendered irrelevant.

>>16200908
>>16200919
They are being affected too. These are not normal rates: >>16200902

I'm inpressed that NijiEN finally has finally gathered their loyal, diehard and brainwashed fanbase.

>>16200915
Sister can't numberfag.

>>16200902
Wow, a supposed 33% culled, how bad for him!!!
Hopefully he won't reach a 70 to 80% cull like the others...

>>16200902
>15K
truly sad from nijinnigers. now they gonna said that he should get 100k every stream.

>>16200916
Because artists can't do nothing but chasing and leeching off trends. Ibswear, artists are becoming my most hated profession these days with how sleazy they are.

Will NijiEN males ever get gold? They have been cockblocked for 2 days now.

>>16200920
That's not news. You literally have three other threads where you can talk about this specific type of garbage post.

>>16200641

>>16201060
unless gura play DMC4 again or a lame game the answer is no

>>16201019
Yeah, but fanart and doujins are one of the main reasons why FGO, Kancolle, and Azur Lane became so dominant in the industry. It gets their brand out.

You think they got there from their riveting gameplay?

>>16201060
It's a race between the Youtube AI slashing everyone else's views and Google's crack team of elite silicon valley H1B interns trying to stop it
Then again, if they get the gold because everyone else has 90% of their views deleted, does it really matter

>>16200953
See >>16201106
No wonder Nijis get shit on here.

>>16200424
Assuming 100% participation rate that means his viewers are only there for 5 minutes, which is abnormal. I think in a world where everything wasn't pants on head retarded with VSPO girls getting 1000% participation rates that'd be something. I mean what poll actually has 100% participation rate?

>>16198574
Still in progress. She recently spent a lot of time worrying about how much to spend on it because there's no upper limit for an indie.

>>16201106
Mumei is culled heavier, and Mysta's stream is also 30 min shorter.
Objectively, Mysta's probably got maybe a 10-20% cull AT MOST, but we won't know for sure unless he chooses to reveal that info.

>>16201060
When Mysta and Vox do a spooning ASMR while Kuzuha sings King in the background

>>16201252
Rest in peace, inhabited island?

>>16201106
>>16201193
>37 mins longer
>video was posted 15 hours ealier, giving it more time to grow
>Mumei has way more subs than him who watch the VOD later
You tried holobrony

>>16201060
gura likely won't be streaming today so now is their chance

>>16201269
un* aaaaa

>>16200777
>Their top streamer is actively making it worse since he’s intentionally breaking DMCA to spite them.
Why is he trying to topple the boat they're all riding?

sudoku is the honourable holo samurais

>>16201193
No, they're right that they're probably affected.
The thing is, we KNOW this doesn't affect everyone evenly. We also know that it gets worse with time as more and more of a channel's viewerbase gets flagged, which, so far, Mysta and Vox's SEA-time audience has avoided being heavily flagged. This looks to be the start though, and if it continues I expect both of them to start looking like they've 'lost' 40-50% in a week.

i can't tell if the nijiniggers are falseflaggers or they are this obnoxious

>>16201359
>noooo stop ruining my holocirclejerk
Why are holobronies so fragile?

>>16201359
Probably the Selenfag back then but with a lot more ammo to waste since they get to use 8k during CCV instead of 3.5k

>>16201282
>Tamaki
>Itou life
I wonder how comfortable that stream is. Must be drama tourist in those numbers.

>>16200916
I know at least one manga that was getting a ton of fanarts but wasn't actually that popular and ended up being axed (twice) anyway.

>Watame Night Fever last week 4.5k
>Watame Night Fever this week 2.5k
Almost sliced in half over a week.

>THESE ARE NORMAL RATES BRUH, THEY'RE NOT BEING CULLED, I'M TOTALLY NOT A BIASED HOLOBRONY WITH AN AGENDA BY THE WAY

>>16201524
That's 33% poll participation if you assume he has exactly the average per-viewer watch time

>>16201524
>1h ago.

>>16201323
Because xQc, despite all of his ability to entertain, is an absolute idiot when it comes to looking at the consequences long-term.
This is the man who restreamed the olympics and then malded over the fact the IOC made twitch MAKE him stop. At this point I can only see a big legal fight forcing twitch to reign in their streamers being able to stop things before companies start going after the individuals instead, since it's well known the top of Twitch are easily millionaires with actual money to sue for.

>>16201570
>ignoring the near 100% likes
I guess no one in hololive is being culled either then. It's just a normal recline.

>>16201447
You still have to pay money for manga. There's almost no opportunity cost to watching a 4 min youtube video, so even a tiny bit of exposure can have a massive impact on views.

>>16195231
>Monster Hunter Rise
The numbers are already culled and they are about to get a lot worse. The Monster Hunter arc last year (March, April) were the two worst months of the year last year for Hololive. Nobody wants to watch that shit.

>>16201234
>>16201106
heres a more proper comparison

>female seanigger goblin is the new schizo, here to shit up the threads with her nijitranny males
Some things never change, even during hard times like these.

Here comes the insecure schizo with small man syndrome at this exact same time again. I am out of this thread.

>>16201524
Wait, if this poll is correct, he somehow actually has more viewers than even some of the hololive girls? Assuming more or less the same mentality on voting.

Nijisister has been getting uppity these days. This is entertaining.

>>16201524
The numbers are NOT normal
NijiEN males are culled like everybody else at various degrees
Yes, they are obviously more popular than NijiEN females
But, saying that they mog every niji and holo both EN, JP. Now, that’s bullshit
See >>16201106

>>16201682
We can certify he has more viewers than low tier holos, that much is certain. But nothing else.

>learns to ignore the previous two schizos
>bites the new one over and over again
# learns slow.

>>16201682
Susan is slashing NijiEN males hard. They probably had around 30-40 people watching.

>>16201682
it's a 1hr old poll.

>>16201682
Mumei's meme review poll had 27k at 30 minutes.

>>16201524
POG NIJIEN I KNEEL!!! TAZUMI >>>>> YAGOO

>>16201665
>new schizo

>>16201323
Twitch streamers are not exactly known for being smart

>>16201524
>1hour ago
Neck yourself Nijinigger. Iofi got 1000+% participation rate in less time than that.

If we go by this, Gura's karaoke might have around 50-60k people watching. This is pretty in line with her first karaoke.

Imagine being >>16201682 levels of retarded that he thinks a poll where a user can only post once as a "roll call" over the course of one hour gives any indication of CCV culling, when CCV itself is a moment-to-moment indicator of who is present at any given point in time.

>>16201524
>one fucking hour
Nijiniggers...

>>16201806
Gura's average ccv is likely between 35k and 40k and her karaoke must be regularly passing 50k. Gura was always at or near the top and susan fooled us into thinking she was reclining, and for that she deserves nothing but hate.

>>16201732
To be clear, given an average watch session of 10 minutes, a streamer's userbase will 'rotate' fully every 10 minutes. approximately (Yes this isn't true for a single person, but the metric is an AVERAGE).
What his means is, that for every 10 minutes a poll is up, assuming a 33% poll participation rate, a poll SHOULD garner 33% of the CCV every 10 minutes, and thus 100% of the CCV in an hour. That's in normal circumstances. These are not normal circumstances, and EVERYONE at this point that's watching chubbas is going to know about the CCV and poll fuckery, which is probably going to increase the level of engagement these polls are getting from a baseline 30% to something higher like, 40-50%. If that's the case, then you'd expect the poll to get 100% engagement in ~30 min and ~200% in an hour. Yes, it looks fucky, and I'm of the opinion that at this point he's probably eating a 10% cull, but unless Mysta himself comes out and points to this ringfit stream and says "Yea, it was actually 13-14k people" like Selen did, we can only guess.

>>16201915
>baseline 30%
Anon 30% is excellent poll engagement and something most polls fail to meet in 10+ minutes

Didn't miko have a 100k poll before? How long was the duration again?

>>16201793
>>16201868
Tell me, why are you ignoring the likes you subhumans? Do you think it's normal to get near 100% likes in just an hour? No one in hololive is being culled if so. Noel has just a little more than that right now.

>>16201971
People are watching polls like hawks and streamers call attention to them. 30% is just a baseline to try and establish something, if we think it's only like 15%-30% then we will be reaching territories where Bae is a 20k+ streamer, which isn't likely.

Nijiniggers coping lmao

>>16201971
I know, but consider that for vtubers they're a niche within a niche, which means user engagement is probably higher than normal streamers.
I'm also doing it for the sake of having a number that is "High, but not impossibly high" and also works nicely when x 3'd. It's all very rough and makes many assumptions to get a very, very, VERY rough conclusion that I'd never feel comfortable submitting to any sort of hard oversight, but it's 'good enough' for a approximation.

>>16201997
It's pre-cull about 2-3 hours in at about 20k ccv iirc

oh nonono Mysta is about to do a poll to prove he isn't having culling. Truly our boy

Mysta is literslly testing the youtube cull right now

>>16202000
When will you Nijinigger understand that comparing JP culture and EN's regarding the likes metric is totally irrelevant? Take for example animated clips(Both JP and EN, same content but EN one has much more likes for far less views). Use your damn brain for a split second.

>>16202000
For niji, it's might be the extra case, but for holoEN they commonly get 100% like in the first 5 mins.

oricon numbers doko

>struggling to even reach his displayed ccv
kek

>>16202079
Kanae said 3 times the number, Matsuri said 3-4 times the number, Botan says 4 times the number. Conclusion? Somewhere between 3 and 4. We can't really rank things since the disparity scaler isn't the same for everyone.

>>16202000
>Do you think it's normal to get near 100% likes in just an hour?
It's pretty normal for HoloEN before the CCVID

>>16202170
Hal and selen reports 1-2 times the number. And they are the ones who at least posted a screenshot of their tabs

>>16202214
Early variation of CCVID

Seems like 5 min is the time where it reaches the 100% participation rate

>>16202170
Yea.
IMO, Mysta is probably at stage 1 now (10-20%). He's streamed long enough that his 'new' userbase is starting to display traits that are associated with getting flagged, and I expect him to be eating 30-40% down in a week or so.
The truth is, right now, it's almost impossible to do a 1:1 comparison on ANYONE'S ccv. The shit's fucked beyond all belief.

Here you go Nijibros since you take an hour to post screenshots these days.

>>16202278
Here have another one

Likes isn't a good metric to determine if there is cull or not. Haachama always have like 10k likes with around 5k ccvs for her midnight streams before the cull happened. Roboco and choco also always have more likes than their ccvs. Haachama i presume it's because jops dropping likes to come back to watch the vod due to midnight. Roboco and choco because of core fanbase and saviorfags.Other holos like pekora never get almost 100% likes so you know something is off when it reaches that stage.

>>16202151
Yeah, notice this in Calli stream recently, took a while to reach the CCV instead of "just now" or in 1m. Either not more fans are watching, bots or some votes are not even counted now.

>>16202286
So, around what HoloEN would get pre 2021 CCVID. I'll be generous and say he's culled 10, MAYBE 20%.

>>16202286
>>16202306
>100% participation in 4 min
He IS being culled, no question about it. It's just not as hard as the others. It must be a 20-30% cull.

>>16202286
>>16202308
So he is essentially where HoloEN was before this latest change happened right now

>>16202286
>>16202306
Proof Susan loves boys and isn't culling them. The ringfit stream is thus his accurate highest numbers as well

>>16202278
HoloEN also has to face the 2020 cull as well.

>>16202286
This is too slow compared to nijijp and holojp

>>16202381
>100% participation in 4 min is normal
The absolute state of this thread

>>16202361
so he's still in 2020 pre cull numbers then. So hhe isn't culled.