/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *

>50,982: Gura (Hololive)
>47,857: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>38,726: Calli (Hololive)
>32,958: Watson (Hololive)
>31,352: Ina (Hololive)
>26,490: Kiara (Hololive)
>21,666: Kiara (Hololive)
>11,387: Mysta (Nijisanji)

>>16154436
Mysta with the only 10k+ solo non-event stream. This is very worthy of kneeling.

>>16154620
It didn't medal. It didn't even get an EN medal.
It did get the Nijisanji silver though.

>>16154620
Go back to your containment thread, nigger. We only kneel to those who get the highest numbers here.

>>16154819
Cope

Nousagi complaining to @TeamYouTube about being flagged
https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1480253660487639046

>>16154390
>THE NUMBERS MASON

>>16154948
based numbersagi kek taking after their oshi

>>16154988
Checked

just now i noticed how low nijien males vod views are compared to their ccv.
>>16154948
keeping the rpessure going

>>16154948
Inb4 "you need to be logged in to count towards the live viewer count"

>>16154436
Is Mysta the new KING now that the previous KING can't get 10k?

>>16154390
nice thread LMAO

>>16155028
>just now i noticed how low nijien males vod views are compared to their ccv
It's pretty fucking good. Mysta is going to get 100% of his subs to watch the RingFit VOD at this rate.

>>16154948
>The only fanbase that is trying with YouTube
I kneel, fuck everyone here who keep crying without doing something

>>16154948
Numbersagi save us

I think Kiara stroke a goldmine today.

>>16155107
im tlaking in general having one buff stream doesnt erease the whole recline since last week.

>>16154436
>>50,982: Gura (Hololive)
>>47,857: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>>38,726: Calli (Hololive)
>>32,958: Watson (Hololive)
>>31,352: Ina (Hololive)
>>26,490: Kiara (Hololive)
>>21,666: Kiara (Hololive)
>>11,387: Mysta (Nijisanji)
why do you post this shit when we know these numbers are 100% wrong, and might be off by as much as x3 too low?

600k on Gura’s outfit vod now. To compare, Chloe’s outfit reveal 8 days ago has 500k. Gura’s hasn’t even hit a full day yet.

This outfit reveal has some crazy growth

>>16155337
It is ONLY for historical record, but all of these fucking things need the disclaimer, which was missed this time.

>>16155384
Didn't her first one hit a million in less than a day?

>>16155279
What recline? They're all in line with the amount of CCV he gets (except for the Petra collab). This one will hit 140k+ for sure, surpassing his current subs.

>>16155384
Clickbait. Also Gura being a weirdo.

>>16155564
The 194k one? Yeah, but having that high a peak and it being an hr long will so that. Pekora’s 184k was 1.1 or 1.2 million after processing and it was 1hr 30 mins long too, so I guess you can use that as reference as well for just how good this reveal’s growth has been

>>16154900
>Mumei Meme Review
>8k CCV
>194k VOD views

>Mysta Ring Fit
>11k CCV
>90k VOD views

LMAO Nijikek

>>16155337
For completion so we can still have a complete medal chart for the week/month/year.

>>16155779
>VOD cope the holobro special

>>16155564
Can't compare that with NYE outfit (after NYE, in dogshit timeslot, for 30 minutes only), it's why even if we had real CCV it would have been lower than her last outfit, let alone the first one

How are we coping today?

>>16155977
look at the last thread

>16155930
>The chink and dramafag is back
Enjoy the thread losers

>>16155337
Use vods to calculate the possible range, estimate the cull based off of typical watch time per user (11 minutes is what we have on record from Fumi of Nijisanji and 10 minutes from Pikamee, probably way longer for event streams), and compare it to similar pre-cull streams and establish a range you can get a probability distribution. That's too much work to just make an educated guess though. Usually this ends up as being anywhere from 2.8-4.2 times the CCV we see.

>>16155779
Mumei has like 4 times the amount of subs Mysta has
Cope

Man these threads still arent quite as bad as when coco died and then old numberfag website back then also died at almost the same time. However its pretty impressive how bad one person can make it.

>>16155655
>it will gorwth 50%
over the span of how long?
you get 300 every 5min ASSUMING it doesnt slow down

>>16156071
Welcome back ratio nigger! Now go back into whatever hole you crawled out of.

>>16155779
>Comparing VODs of different durations before processing is finished
You're a failure of a numberfag.

>>16156071
Fuck off, ratio fag,

Festival has less than 100 subs left and it's still crawling at a snail's pace... I don't think all of them have realised yet that it's a lot harder getting new subs now than it was from late 2020 to mid 2021

>>16156370
thanks I just subbed

>Gura outfit sc mogged by two NijiEN dudes doing regular stuff
You WILL kneel to Manjisanji. You will acknowledge penis power.

>>16156304
is a 50 min stream that already slowed that to 300 every 5min and will slow down even more as time goes. it already ququed its views.

>>16156432
Merch is the new meta now, newfag.

>>16156085
I predicted Mysta would be the first NijiEN to get solo 10k (with a karaoke tho, not RFA), but I should've also predicted how shit the thread would be.

Not sure which is worse, the samefagging retard who reeks of desperation or the insecure holofags pathetically trying to downplay a major achievement by a NijiEN member.

>>16155337
Since cutting has affected everyone, this will not change the position in the table.

Us Ripplechads literally can't stop winning

>>16156432
Actually, the outfit sc was even worse. It's still counting the sc she got in her Mario Kart streams, so Vox mogged it too.

Us ripplechads literally can't stop winning

>>16156728
>XRP 1000$ the global currency of the elite any day now you'll see

>>16156541
i mean if people paint the makor achivement in comparision to others urrent ccv with problem IS BOUND to get shit on.

>>16155239
Kiara has always been getting good SC numbers. It's just even more now after she directly appealed to the KR crowd. Since those guys throw out more money on average than the westerners for less effort, it would be dumb to ignore them. Kiara knows how to play this game.

>>16156658
wouldnt hat mean you wont need to coun shu and ike 100k celebration?

>>16155279
Other NijiEN males have reclined, Mysta has not.

>>16156541
>holofags pathetically trying to downplay a major achievement by a NijiEN member
Has it ever occurred to you that people just don't give a fuck about that milestone like if ever vshojo would get 20k, it's not really something to brag about in a thread where getting 100k at least once a week is the norm?

>>16155337
How about we instead crown the daily winner based on how closely their ccv graph resembles the Nike logo

>>16156728
How the fuck they're viewbotting like this, I tried but it didn't work for me.

>>16156728
>YT flagged every user as bots except for the actual bots
s-sugoi.... i kneel to the power of pajeet coding!

>>16156728
Why ripple?

>>16156775
At the point, everyone knows about CCVID.
If you bite bait comparing unculled NijiEN male numbers to culled numbers, you're the retard.
Newfags don't have any self restraint.

>>16156917
>everyone knows about CCVID.
doesnt change the anture of the persons here
if i go compare pekora to gura it will be a sitstorm still with or without ccvid.
People will shit on nijimales if they do shit ass comparisions no matter the context. you accept it and the move to next topic.

>>16156541
I didnt downplay it in the thread it happened, I dropped my usual vegeta kneel because it was a great accomplishment for nijiEN but the samefag retard has shit up 2 entire threads so far so nobody cares any discussion around it was literally drowned out by a dude aiming his asshole everywhere and shitting on literally everything so nobody wants to talk about it now.

>>16156887
their marketing team has attracted the most devout schizophrenics and turned them into full on tribalists who will die for their coin of choice regardless of how much better other projects around them perform
there are a lot of similarities with holobronies now that I think about it

>>16156850
>people just don't give a fuck about that milestone
Kek how new are you?
People in /#/ have been waiting for the first NijiEN stream to break 10k for months.
Don't need to shit up the thread just because you don't care, retard.

>it's not really something to brag about in a thread where getting 100k at least once a week is the norm
He says in a thread where people used to celebrate low-tier Holos/VSPOs getting good numbers once in a while.
Must be either a newfag or a hypocrite.

>>16157072
You mean nijisanji

>>16156835
So Mysta is the Selen of males?

>>16156541
Ignoring the one shitposter who was spamming "holo btfo" on cooldown and people getting baited by it, I don't think there was much downplaying going on
I do think it's really funny that their first 10k stream was a male member doing a coomer bait stream though, I don't think anyone could have predicted that

>>16157108
>People in /#/ have been waiting for the first NijiEN stream to break 10k for months.
Speak for yourself, retard. Also Petra already did that, newfag.

>>16157162
to be honest coomer streams are the only things keeping vox and mysta from reclining and they will run out of them eventually as repeated instances wont do as good. it was kinda expected just like with karaoke

>>16156071
And (you) # still believe that she got less viewers

>>16157162
I downplayed it because the numbers are fradulent since he isn't getting culled. Mumei got 8k CCV on her meme stream and she has 194k VOD views. The unculled Nijifaggot only has 90k VOD views. Not an impressive number.

>>16157072
You probably meant Manjisanji, anon.
You ask Holofags what they like about their oshi and they'll answer you what's good about them.
You ask the same question to a Nijinigger and they'll explain why they're better than Holos.

>>16157108
>celebrate shit numbers
>get shit on
>complain b-but numbers thread
every time, from matsuri to vspo to nijien

>>16157155
what the hell happened to selen anyway nobody ever talks about her anymore after the nijimales debut

>>16157417
seleniggers swapped to being mystaniggers because they arent actually fans of them just their numbers while hating Hololive hoping for its downfall

>>16157051
Fair enough, it's a shame because /#/ was actually bearable for the past few days in terms of baits.

>>16157162
Maybe before debut, but after the first week, it was obvious that either Mysta or Vox was going to get the first solo 10k stream.

>>16157206
>9.6k
>collab with Mayuzumi and Lauren who did most of the heavy lifting
At least check before posting, newfag

I can't believe Susan is a Nijifag...

>>16157417
shea lready did all the buffs she could
karaoke, apex tourneys, collabs, getting drunk,etc
she needs to come with another idea.

>>16157482
Oh, Petra actually didn't get it. My bad. Meh, I really don't give a fuck. Now go fuck off to your containment thread.

>>16157051
>I dropped my usual vegeta kneel
The biggest honor

>>16157417
Selen's numbers were good in the context of NijiEN, but even her peak was the bottom for HoloEN.
Doesn't help that she stopped spamming Apex and her numbers have tanked.
Now that shitposters have Mysta and Vox, they dropped Selen and use the bigger stick now.

>>16157417
She's still a successful mid-tier streamer, there's not really much interesting to say
And as >>16157480 says, any shitposters who were just using her as a stick to beat low-performing holos with now have someone better to use

>>16157072
you mispelled nijisanji

>>16154436
What's even the point anymore?

>"No one cares about midget numbers"
>*people continue talking about numbers*
>"STOP TALKING ABOUT MIDGETS"
>*everyone ignores the raging fucktard*
Every time.

>>16154436
>niji inclining despite yt cull
>holo debuffing themself with ark

>>16157696
Maybe holoJP would get good numbers if they were good vtubers.

This is sad /#/, it's just one bait post after another.

>>16157696
You'd better wring out a bunch of money in your morning stream dumb stinky orca, it's already been days since I could last post the Chloe update and you've got a $12k gap to reach Yashiro

Did Kiara do a poll today for her Shrine stream?
There's no way this shit peaked at 5k, but it would be interesting to see what the actual peak is.
Looks like it has 10k potential due to call-ins.

>>16158069
When it's this slow one person chainposting can really clutter the thread with junk.

>>16158137
Whatever the peak was x2.

>>16158137
She did a poll at the start, it reached 5k and had 3k viewers at the time

>>16154900
What was his CCV with Enna?

>>16158272
it was great

>>16158137
Assume actual CCV is 3x higher than displayed peak.
Botan outright stated her previous Metal Wolf Chaos stream that displayed 3.5k peak had 14k CCV when she checked the analytics a day after it was done.

>>16158272
He got 3.3k playing It Takes Two with Enna, who also had her own POV (Why? It's literally a split screen game)
He peaked 3.3x higher than Enna.
It Takes Two is usually poison for NijiEN so 3.3k is quite high already. Elira is playing with some NijiKR girl and they get 500-800 viewers on 1 POV.

So many faggots replying to bait...

>>16158523
It's so they can split the views and SCs. Niji EN is really weird about having too many POVs but when most of the members aren't exactly rolling in piles of cash it's understandable.

>>16158523
Also, NA hours

>>16158490
There's no to validate what that anon said

So I'm on hopium but the responses have gone from

>We updated our AI
to
>We're investigating
to
>We're currently working on a fix

Dare I hope that it actually gets fixed or did this also happen during the 2020 cull?

>>16156658
Gura got less than $2000 on an outfit reveal? Jesas. Why are ENfags so stingy?

>>16158737
No, last year they just kept pretending it works as expected.

>>16158490
I can believe 3x for JPs, but from what we know so far, ENs have not been culled to the same extent (at least from the recent cull).

O well, time for retroactive VOD cope again.

>>16158664
Watching Botan's members verifies it, do your fucking reps.

>>16158737
they said the same thing on 2020, dont get your hopes up

>>16158778
She won't read those SC anyway, so most people just don't bother.
Her merch sells out moments after being on sale though.

>>16156069
>Use vods to calculate the possible range, estimate the cull based off of typical watch time per user (11 minutes is what we have on record from Fumi of Nijisanji and 10 minutes from Pikamee, probably way longer for event streams), and compare it to similar pre-cull streams and establish a range you can get a probability distribution. That's too much work to just make an educated guess though. Usually this ends up as being anywhere from 2.8-4.2 times the CCV we see.

2.9-3.34 is the diviation i get. depends on the person, seems to be a little less for the larger view numbers, people like gura and pekora seems slightly less affected by the fuckery once their stream gets up over 10k, but only to a point, their watch metric should still be around x2.9 or x3.1 depending, where as the lower watch streamers are definitely getting boned slightly higher in the 3.3 range.

>>16158737
wasn't 2020 cull more or less fixed for the JP chuubas since they've made more noise about it and youtube japan have to take it serious since chuubas are some of the biggest JP streamers period.

>>16158848
Has EN ever checked their analytics to see their real peak?

how often does it take for a 3 hour VOD to show the livestream chat again after it finished?

>>16159041
EN has not talked directly about it if they have checked them, but EN is getting the same 100-200% poll participations in 1-5 minutes as all the JPs. If the cull was lower for EN they would not be getting as high a poll participation percentage as the JPs in the same amount of time.

>>16158848
You are forgetting the cumulative effect of culling.
EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbers, and their poll participation is just as fucked as JPs, see my above reply to the other anon.

>>16158737
Polls and likes numbers will be culled and you WILL like it

>>16155239
>>16156790

the real reason is that she was reading fortunes with hololy for 50$ each.

Any chance Gura breaks 20k on the karaoke? CCVid as reached stage 2 on her channel, I'm pretty sure

Why does Mysta have healthy graph compared to the other vtubers? Are there other vtubers that have healthy graph too?

>>16159041
Selen from NijiEN did, but that's about it.
On the HoloEN side, numbers fuckery has been a thing for more than a year now (eventho it's worse now than ever), but none of them seem to care.
Mori and Kiara were two of the first ones to do polls just to check if their CCV was inaccurate, but their response is always "oh well it's fucked, who cares".
Gura hates numbers so she never looks at her analytics.
Mumei's chat was spammed with "7k viewers vs 15k poll votes lol" when she put up her poll yesterday so she knows for sure, but she didn't address it.

>>16159037
No, the entire platform experienced a 30% cull that was never fixed. JPs did not get it fixed, it took them almost 11 months to grow back into 90% of pre-cull numbers.

>>16159331
Entirely untapped market that isnt infected by the AI yet.
He taps into SEA fujos that cant speak jap and didnt watch vtubers before, esp since it was a coomer stream

>>16155779
mumei actually had a poll with more than 200% participation during that stream.

>>16159272
It does seem as if the cull is pretty even between ENs and JPs.

>>16159395
>On the HoloEN side
>>16159272
>EN was already under -40%
Stop the myth, almost everyone was affected by the cull. The -40% figure for HoloEN is correct though but you're leaving the impression that there was no JP cull.

>>16159241
There is no reliable time table regardless of video length. Sometimes it's instant or sometimes archiving a vod fully on youtube can take a day or more. If chat is missing it means either the vod has been edited or it is still in the archival process.

>>16159435
He doesn't have membership yet, right? Do you think that affect too? Because i can see "new audiences+no spamming outlets" is a reason of healthy graph

>>16159041
unless i missed something, from EN only selen so far has shown her analytics and she only lost like 30% which is nothing compared to kuzuha, hal, kanae, botan, and matsuri who lost 2x to 4x

>>16159272
>EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbers
The issue I have with this theory is that the VOD views do not track.
If someone like Kiara is actually getting 10k+ on most of her streams (her current numbers x3), then her VODs should have similar counts to consistent 10k+ HoloJPs, but they aren't.

>>16157972
Only NijiEN is inclining. NijiJP is reclining hard.

>>16159395
Why they hate numbers so much bros?

>>16159272
>You are forgetting the cumulative effect of culling.
EN was already under -40%, a further -40% means they are around 1/3 of their real numbers
That doesn't mesh with what we see in other metrics

>>16158951
Botan and Matsturi claim that their CCV was 4 times higher than what was shown. 4 might be the upper limit.
>>16159620
>Only NijiEN is inclining
Almost every NijiEN is down recently save for a few standouts. It's dishonest to clone Mysta 15 times and claim that's NijiEN.

>>16154436
Ahaha, holoshitty reclined even further, now it's even worse than:
>-34%
>-30%
>-30%
>-42%
>-32%
Waiting for the next outfit reveal to laugh at their ccv below 10k.

>>16159700
Didn't a Niji recently get a 12k 3D debut or something?

>>16157108
>Must be either a newfag or a hypocrite
It's even worse - he's a holoshitty tribalfag. This thread on 95% consists solely of them.

>>16157389
More like:
You ask Nijifags what they like about their oshi and suddenly a disgusting Holokek will insert his ugly mug into conversation and starts shitting over every Chuuba except for Holoshitty.

Why don't other vtuber clip themselves like Mysta?

>>16159982
>holoshitty
>>16160092
>Holoshitty
High discord!!!

>>16160176
at least he's being original

>>16160107
I think making a highlight reel of yourself is too much work on top of daily streams + some people find it cringe to watch themselves.

Holos have paid other people to make highlight clips of themselves before, like Ame and kowkarot, but if you think about it, it's not really worth because any moment you're clipping is already clipped for free by Sushi or someone else.
Unless you transition your channel from a VOD archive channel to a highlights-only channel like Rae and Nyanners, it's hard for your fans to find clips in a sea of VODs anyways.

>>16159811
As far as I know, their last 3D debut was in December and got 55k.

>>16160275
He's just copying the other fag who says "Nijishitty". I prefer "Hollowlife" and "Manjisanji".

>>16160092
>claims holofags love to butt-in into nijiniggers' convos
>posts it in a holo thread on a holo board
C'mon, niji bro. You couldn't be more ironic lmao

>>16160420
>posts it in a holo thread on a holo board
Ahh, a very nice information pulled right from your thread? Or maybe there is some hidden text that reads "This board/thread belongs to holo"?
And this, by the way, proves my point - the board/thread were never originally created as a holo board/thread, but disgusting holokeks inserted their stupid mugs and declared it as theirs.

>>16160411
"Nijishitty" at least flows well and makes sense structurally. "Holoshitty" is forced and doesn't even make sense.

>>16160411
I'll like to think Nijishitty anon off-ed himself after NJU after spamming the thread that no one cares about it.
Literally the only person in the whole thread dumb enough to think NJU would flop.
Even the most tribal holofans knew NJU would be huge.

I propose the terms "Holodumbo" and "Nijibitchi"

>>16160600
>"Nijishitty" at least flows well and makes sense structurally.
A what? That's the most retarded thing I've heard. In what place it flows and makes sense structurally.
> "Holoshitty" is forced and doesn't even make sense.
That's the opposite - it's makes perfect sense, because sounds like "holy shit", like the exclamation of hololive being a retarded company, at the same time, giving hololive it's suitable fragrance of feces.

>>16160709
>In what place it flows and makes sense structurally.
Cause it rhymes, retard.
>Niji
>shitty
Jesas. Why are nijiniggers so unoriginal and uncreative just like their oshi? Don't they understand art?

Nijisanji Weekly top songs list is also out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnGGXjcJw2Q
Looks like a bit of a recline to previous weeks.
38k for 50th place
12th placed is the first song over 100k
Chima twice in the top 5, hers and Toko's Phony are on 2nd and 3rd place.
Lauren's KamiPoi on a tear though, over 4 million in less than 2 months.

>>16160666
Nice try satan

>>16160709
>Ni-Ji-San-Ji
>Ni-Ji-Shi-Ty
It ends on the same vowel sound, goes into the second part with an S, and it has the same amount of syllables.

>Ho-Lo-Live
>Ho-Lo-Shi-Ty
Ends on a different sound, second part starts on a different letter, and you are adding a syllable. No structure and no flow.

>>16160709
Holoshitty sounds nothing like "Holy Shit" you dumbfuck ESL, learn proper english pronunciation before posting. Are all nijishit dumbass cocksuckers low IQ like you?

Why don't you retards start a separate thread about thinking up nicknames an 8 year old would give vtuber agencies they don't like so people can go back to seething about numbers as intended

>>16160874
I think this validates the saying where the audience reflects the streamer. I heard some talent from Nijisanji where she had to mutiliate her breasts just so she could bait some superchat money. Ridiculous.

>>16160939
Where else but here? It's not like there's a point to this thread anymore.

The absolute state of /#/

>>16160939
This place is a cesspool of autists, arguing over which CEO is more of a meme or over which nicknames sound best, in full sincerity

>>16160939
What's there to discuss?
The only possible interesting thing which may happen in the span of next 3 hours is Ame becoming a 3-view, as she's reading SCs, and infected with CCVID.

>>16160811
>Cause it rhymes
Not it doesn't retard. Please don't become a rapper. Your 'rhymes' would be complete trash.

>>16160811
>>16160869
In both examples both syllables and phonemes for nijishitty are different, hence making as little rhyming sense as holoshitty. Do some English reps, retards.
>>16160874
And for you - do your eyesight and hearing reps. You've got some serious problems with those.

>>16160821
I don't like how this guy does his rankings.
He takes the total number of views of a video and divides it by the days it's been released.
It's not the most useful imo for finding out what's hot this week.

I want to know how Kuzuha's King and Vampire are doing per week damnit.

SUSAN, SHINE

>>16161114(me)
Nvm I'm dumb. He bamboozled me and changed how he does his rankings wtf.

>Kuzuha King: 186,519
>Kuzuha Vampire: 110,923
>Lauren God-ish: 327,743
Wow Lauren wouldn't even make it into the top 10 for Holo covers this week.

Here are some numbers
11 - the number of Holomen Matsuri has kissed
2 - the number she frenched.

>>16161212
To be fair, it was a really strong week for Hololive with all the new cover releases.

>>16160939
But this is the best place for this sort of autistic sperging. Why do you think so many cumbuds and nousagikeks come here?

Towa just leapfrogged Lamy, Sora and Mio. If she keeps some of this pace up and Shion actually comes back like she said. Maybe they can both save a little face and overtake the IDs for glorious nippon.

>>16161114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA

10. Fubuki - Animal (350,296)
9. Mio - Animal (401,905)
8. Kiara and Ina - Iya Iya Iya (485,116)
7. Suisei - phony (486,628)
6. Lui - Love ka (514,255)
5. Botan and Lamy - Lion (578,978)
4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)
3. Towa and Suisei - Haiiro to Ao (696,826)
2. HoloEN - The Twelve Days of Christmas (829,105)
1. Gura - Target For Love (1,049,123)

For those who want to know Holo's top 10 too.

>>16160939
This thread is pretty much dead unless Susan decides to fix CCV (I doubt it).

>>16160821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA [Embed]

10. Fubuki - Animal (350,296)
9. Mio - Animal (401,905)
8. Kiara and Ina - Iya Iya Iya (485,116)
7. Suisei - phony (486,628)
6. Lui - Love ka (514,255)
5. Botan and Lamy - Lion (578,978)
4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)
3. Towa and Suisei - Haiiro to Ao (696,826)
2. HoloEN - The Twelve Days of Christmas (829,105)
1. Gura - Target For Love (1,049,123)

For those who want to know Holo's top 10 too.

>>16161212
>>16160821
Here's the Hololive top 70 covers for the week
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-jRAn8YreY
Lauren's Kamippoi would be just below Suisei's Phony with its 411k

BTW Ochame Kinou JP got a boost as well, back to 273 for the first time in months.

>>16161490
Hmm, strange.
This compilation claims that it's views starting from 1'st of January, but I remember that Gura's cover was around 800k during New Years. After checking playboard, it confirmed that at 1'st of January this cover had mid-800k views. So how it got 1mil+ views if it's only around 1.1 mil right now?
After that, I checked some other holo top 10 covers from this video and they also have the same problem.

>>16161640
Wait, I'm dumb, i was reading Lauren't 4mil congratulations as 400k views.
It had 327,743 views
Puts it on 6th place, just above Gura-Mori's King - 320,075
and below Towa - Suisei's Haiiro to Ao with 338,663

>>16160561
You do know /vt/ was created specifically as a containment measure for Hololive in particular right? (Been around since /jp/)

>>16161725
I believe they didn't do it last week, so a good number of the top 15 are actually 2 weeks old.

It's not the biggest deal and should fix itself by next week.
For example, HoloEN Ochame Kinou will be almost 2 weeks old when it gets added to the video next week.

>>16161381
Towa's previous EOP chat got overtaken by mostly JPs now. I'm expecting her to get a huge JP incline now that APEX arc is over.

>>16162178
The Apex ark is what brought her JP incline to begin with early last year.

>>16161964
No, I don't know that. And that's not because I am a newfag. That's because that's some bullshit information.
Holokeks always were an outcasts, so they try to find some containment places themselves. If a hobo gets kicked out from one street and puts his box in the middle of another street, that doesn't meant the whole street now belongs to him. The same with holokeks.

I'm receiving Niji recommendations.
The bots works.

>>16161993
>It's not the biggest deal
Bruh, it's like 200k vs 1 mil. Looks like a big deal to me.

>>16162319
It's a weekly ranking video out of dozens of weeks with a couple thousand views.
It's not a big deal in the long run.

>>16162268
the hobo analogy is a little weird when the people seething about hololive discussion and trying to chase it off to yet another new thread/board have always been the ones in the minority, albeit a very loud minority

>>16159507
Stop comparing November and December.
Obviously, the cutting algorithm works slowly, day by day.
Gura drop since 46k to 19k
Ame, Ina, Kiara, Mora - all of the dropped more then 50% compared to September, October, November.
All HoloJP return to september numbers, but only holoEN was drop more.

>>16162492
I think 16162268 is in dire need of (You)s

>>16162178
Towa's chat stopped being majority eop in late 2020 during her reintroduction into the box after a self imposed exodus and the introduction of HoloEN. Aound the time of the first hololive amoung us collabs which she organized. Towa has two separate fanbases with some overlap.
Idol fags who are there for her singing and hololive collabs and apexniggers who she got from collabing with vspo and crazy racoon. There's a sizable korean slice there too.
She still plays Apex (cr cup this week, only 4 days this time though) but has started valorant. Valorant might be interesting for its potential holo collabs.

>>16162492
I guess /vt/ is not a very well developed street, with a lot of hobos.
>very loud minority
that's debatable, as I think that majority of this board is much, much louder.

>open thread
>baits, falseflags, samefags

Looks like Fauna is L-ing today instead of nike-ing.
CCVID is getting worse and worse for ENs.

>>16163387

rumao Ame and Bubba bot numbers

Goodbye holoEN~

>>16163760
Christmas singing in January. Why is she doing this

The MK tournament and the costume relay got EN on terminal CCVID, as expected.

>>16163819
becasue se promised and coudlnt do it on holidays outside the ral.

Thank you Gawr Gura for getting today's gold for holo with your unarchived singing!

>>16163760
Looks like we need to put her on the ventilator or it's about to get terminal

>>16163760
>Gura might get under 10k for karaoke today

>>16163819
her computer melted down during christmas, but now it's not melted down and still christmas! it's a christmas miracle anon!

>>16164045
...maybe
Are we counting waiting rooms?

AsaMio managed to beat the waiting room by a little bit, but 3.1k for a show that was over 9k every single week PLUS a L2D 2.0 reveal is..... yeah, we're still hurtling towards 2views at a blistering pace

>>16162637
(You)
Someone hasn't fucking checked the numbers to sees where a huge chunk of the activity on the board is (hint, it's a Hololive thread, and the one that moves the fastest)

>>16164371
only for holos

>>16164230
thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWW2SzoAXMo

Ame's graph looks (somewhat) normal. She's the EN who is least affected by this because Japs don't like her.

>>16164848
There's a valley around 8:35

>>16164848
ame supasunday usually have 2k average this is at least 1k below normal.

>>16164848
supa sunday for ame never bottoms into sub 2k this early or at all i think. its usually 2.5k on lower ones with 3.5k averages. Shes absolutely getting fucked

>>16164147

>>16164993

>>16164993
Bubbabot is sitting at 1.1k+ so something seems off.

>>16164848
She's at the stage before the 'Nike' stage.

>>16165025
been awhile since i looked and yeah 2.5k~ seems her new average i guess these days the past few months at least. but its still quite a bit lower than normal even then.

>>16165065
bubbabot was fuckin up earlier, and there's a fauna karaoke going on that some people might be using instead

>>16164848
That is half her usual peak, and 1k below her usual average. She averages like 2.5k viewers, and her usual peaks are 3.2-4.5k

>>16165025
Those past two superchat readings she had no competition.
>>16165122
Natural decline

Found this in the archive
Gura's average watch time per view at the first a year ago

Found this in the archive
Gura's average watch time per view at the first cull a year ago

>>16165664
How is this calculated? I don't think she has ever made that public.

So the Elira's nepotism hire will be the gachikois magnet in Luxiem?
At least on youtube SC already mogged all his genmates and previous gens.
And is mogging Fauna rn on SC.

>>16165870
It's because he stays mostly in US timezone while the others stream for SEA poorfags in exchange for more views.

>>16165870
is a 100k celebration

>>16165664
to explain better the graph from this anon: they calculated avg watch time = total time * (avg ccv / total views after stream end). CCV got fucked, so the calculated avg watch time also fell as well.

Nimu passed Kuzuha.

10k Karaoke IKUZO!

>>16165805
Probably just streamDuration * CCV / VODViewsAtEndOfStream. Obviously end of stream views have to be processed and all that, plus viewer retention depends on content, which probably explains the large variance in the calculated watch time, but you can still see the cut in roughly 40% after December where CCV got fucked.

>>16165981
her views litearlly jumpped out of a cliff since last month.
From 600-1M views to 200-300k

>>16165981
stop looking at clips channel anon. Shes got 1.4M on twitch

>>16165981
Man, this has been a bad 2 months for the "King". He has been largely made irrelevant.

>>16166089
I'm comparing YouTube channels.

Today, the last holo that can get 10k+ no matter what stream falls

>>16165948
Anon, he got 4k on youtube akasupas on a mf collab.
Surpassing Kiara who had the new outfit buff. And is granted will surpass Kiara again today.
Is literally no delusion to say this guys is already more loaded than all of EN if we also consider streamlab donations.
How much that bitch of Kiara will cry once she opens Playboard and see males are fucking her again rumao.
Thank you rikku for putting this whores on their places, as cheapass prostitutes.
Anticipate the collabs soon!

>>16166149
The end of an era. It's sad to see it all go down like this. Holos lost not because of recline, but because of Susan's greed.

So another Gura gold today? Would Gura top her record dominance (11 daily wins in a month)?

>>16166348
Why are you still obsessed with gold medals when Susan has fucked the views beyond repair?
Even if Gura gets gold, it's because her channel has a lesser CCVid stage than say, Pekora's.

It seems obvious at this point that different streams get affected differently by the cull. Some of the sudden differences in numbers between chuubas dont make any sense and they appeared right after cull.

>>16166121
you're comparing a real streaming channel with a clips channel.

>>16166246
ok

>>16165664
Nowadays holomem are lucky to get +10 min/view

>Gura desperately bringing out progressively more buff content to keep her head above 10k
I thought she wasn't a numberfag

>>16166246
>he got 4k on youtube akasupas on a mf collab.
https://youtu.be/JYLkbf6sEg4?t=14229
Fucking retard.
He was doing a countdown to 100k at the end of the stream.
That's where the $4k is from.
He's double dipping right now by doing an actual celebration stream.

>>16166570
God I hope so, I want her to do lewd art review.

>>16166577
That explains why the donations happened only at one point.

Anyway
5k waiting for gura. 30min to go.

>>16166570
You realize she made this schedule at the start of the week right? And that she didn't decide when the outfits got revealed? She's not exactly patching the ship as it sails.

>>16166570
if only she streamed her mario kart finals to make you look less retarded..

>>16166634
I'm ready for a 20k waiting room gold

>numberfagging imaginary numbers

>>16166694
i think it will be 10k waiting like the last karaoke ebfore new years.

>>16166679
She knew Marine would mog her so dipped out

>>16166570
kek this is like saying Pecker is not a numberfag

>>16166694
She hasn't had 20k waiting for a (non relay) karaoke in a while, anon. Usually her Karaoke keeps inclining the more it's up and goes past 30k, but it doesn't start that close

>>16166788
Why are anons in such desperate denial about the Gura=/=numberfag thing? Your evidence on the contrary is always flimsy shit like
>b-but this stream looks like she's trying to get people to view it
That's not fucking numberfagging.

>>16166840
>Schedules the most streams in a week she's had all year during Council and HoloX debuts

>>16166418
Still have to give credits to good numbers, holoilve are all in equal battlegrounds after all.

>>16154436
Mysta... I kneel...

>>16166418
Because this is the only time childfuckers can brag about Gura overall.
Before the ccvid gura was mogged by jp, either Holo or Niji, on regular streams.

>>16166926
Sounds like a massive debuff for her since more people would be interested in the new toys

>>16166926
>doesn't look at her fucking CCV during a stream
>refuses to celebrate 1 million and 3 million, probably passing on thousands of dollars and even more views for celebration buff
>you can count the number of times she's talked about her numbers on your fingers
>never shills her songs
Yes, extremely flimsy shit compared to the evidence to the contrary.

so this schizo been samefagging all day huh

>>16166926
> HoloX debuts lol, making things up again?

So according to Selen and Botan; V stage = 30% cull (10+ mins waiting room recovery). Tending to L stage = 80% cull (your peak is only half of your waiting room).

>>16166926
Literally what the fuck are you talking about? HoloX debut was late November, one of Gura's worse streaming times. During it she played GTA, Pokemon and DMC, then fucked off for like a week.

Today's superchats

>>16167203
Thank you Selen. We finally have actual data to check for cull percentages

>>16167092
Gura is scared of her numbers but also petty, spiteful and jealous of anyone else being successful.

>>16167203
Using all the actual number information we have been given by VTubers and correlating it to their chart we can probably find a better correlation than that

>>16167203
what were all the stages again?

>>16166926
During HoloX debut she git suck for a week and didn't stream at all, anon.

Will this be one of Gura's karaoke stream that dips below 20k? pretty sure a TON of her viewers got the CCVid on the MK Tourney or the NY Outfit relay

>>16167394
denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

>>16167403
8-12K

>>16166926
if she were a numberfag then she'd literally celebrate every sub and song milestone a la 1 year-ago kiara for easy supas and views but she didn't and the only time she celebrated a sub milestone was 2 mil where she sang hololive songs and shilled them to her audience, the fact that she's still this powerful despite debuffing herself is a testament to her numbers.

>>16167257
I love that I don't have to watch Niji tournaments because I can find out the winner from that day's SC chart

>>16167403
>Will this be one of Gura's karaoke stream that dips below 20k?
Yes. She's down 40-50% of her views. But also this is the first actually scheduled public karaoke she's done in months, barring the relay. Previously she'd have it on the schedule but on the exact day she started streaming again so it was basically a guerilla.

>>16154436
Mysta has officially bcome the first niji to ever break 10k

>>16167536
it's not exactly in a good day too, working day for anyone past America timezones

>>16167203
also according to botan her halo real ccv was 2x the live
https://vrabi.ml/video/S7JxoFxV40k
its not that easy to tell the cull by the graph shape
also selen showed her analytics graph after 1 day. It may have processed more since then, if it is the same as vod views

>>16166246
> Kiara Kiara Kiara
Genuinely a mental illness.

>>16167536
Numberrot has been getting massively worse looking at Kiara's and Fauna's streams today.
Karaoke not clearing the waiting room is weird as hell and Kiara looked to be way higher as well, especially during the early call ins.

>>16167636
>livestreams
>can't count live viewers
s-sugoi...

welp, good bye

>>16167876
Today will not be the day she gets under 10k, I'm sorry anon

>>16167929
Nah no way she gets under 10k for karaoke, maybe if it was next week

>>16167636
This one is hard to believe without seeing the analytics

13k waiting for the shark

>>16168018

>>16168033
dropped to 4.5k

Guys I think it is time to pack it up. The numbers are gone forever.

>>16167567
The first NijiEN

>>16167636
I wouldn't trust her 100% on that one because it was a shill stream for Xbox goypass

>>16168082
She's getting those numbers back. Already at 7k

Gura us recovering very fast

>>16168136
Gura has been barely affected. She has her usual numbers

>>16168098
I'm just waiting until YouTube fixes it or just goes "working as intended". My expectation is something in the middle, a fix but numbers are still crippled compared to pre-cull

>>16168204
retard

10k got, postponing my suicide for now

>>16154436
holy shit NijiEN hit it with Mysta, first 10k on solo for them

>>16168204
it took her a long time to recover during her outfit reveal

>>16168204
>usual numbers
She's usually gets 30k on unarchived, I very much doubt she'll even hit 20k today

Is that the smell of hope?

10k get
The tally of the day is saved

>>16168256
More like the smell of cope

gura's got niked it seems

>>16168204
Barely affected? When she went back to 4k from 13k viewers?

>>16168256
she'll be lucky to get 25k

>>16168204
pre. karaoke (non relay)

>>16168130
they dont get paid by ccv in youtube anonchama, ever since the 2020 fuckery

It was always like that
The only difference was the recovery time and the ratio between the waiting room and the actual peak CCV

>>16168389
In retrospect, CCVID was already starting to hit at that point.

I strongly dislike Susan, bros.

>>16168443
Those are standard gura unarchived numbers though

Recovered in 9 minutes
Sugoi..

>>16168443
yeah, but it started with the JP holos (remember the graph flattening) and it took like 2 weeks to reach the nijis

>>16166443
They still both get video views and subscribers, though, and are both in the top subscribed VTuber lists so they can still be compared.

>>16168443
This was what, the 27th?
If she was affected at this point, it was probably affected (at MOST) 30%, probably 10-20% given past Karaoke numbers.

doesn't look like a 20k'er to me

>Susan flatlining the stream at 13k
Fucking whore

14K get, Susan might cap it at 15 tho fucking bitch.

CCVID has spread out of here
>>16168587

What the fuck is this, numberbros? Gura karaokes are supposed to be our paradise...

GURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULLGURA MAKE A PULL

>>16168680
Nips have always been /here/ anon, and CCVID is an excellent meme.

>>16168609
Yeah, we now know that it ramped gradually but she was almost certainly being hit at that point.

>>16168716
What happened?

>>16168680
Literally my post kek

>>16168803
30k guarantees... now we can't even reach 20k...

do we have 20k contenders for today aside from gura karaoke?

>>16165981

12 min recovery. Not as bad as her MK stream.

Nousagis..not like this
Come and take your CCV throne back, I can't watch Gura struggle to break a 20k on Karaoke, even if it means she's got the biggest CCV in hololive

>>16168881
>20K Gura karaoke
Tee hee hee hee. In your dreams.

t.Susan

>>16166110
the ccvi caps seem to have hit him particularly harshly too, his graphs look incredibly fucked up

Why is Shork so powerful...
I kneel...

please gura... hit 20k... please...

>>16168903
When is she joining Vshojo?

HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD
HOLO GOLD
>HOLO GOLD

hi numberfags, havn't been able to check out streams the past week. Are numbers fixed yet?

>>16169208
MOGU MOGU

>>16169208
Not numbers related, fuck off to /doog/ and Hololive Global.

>>16169279
nope
youtube says they're working on a fix but thats if you trust them

>>16169279
Nope, getting gradually worse.

>>16169279
>Gura karaoke
>18k after 25 mins
You tell me man

>18k and still going up
I'M BEGINNING TO BELIEVE

>>16169310
Sponsorships are always fair game for /#/

Susan you flagging capping bitch!@

>>16169389
Even if she hits 20k that is still only 50% of her average for unarchived karaoke.

Watame on TV Asahi

>>16169467
Not if they don't have any numbers.

End of Numbers

Damn, Gura will (hopefully) just pass 20K with an unarchived karaoke...

The shark's recline is staggering...

>>16169600
don't you know? we're now /news/

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1480151508964765698
haachama's numbers

Youtube needs to fix this shit now. gura can only last so long on the front lines

>>16168904
>https://vrabi.ml/video/QTqzg3_tl0M
same waiting number
32k peak

>>16169600
Are you new to this thread or something?

Just a hundred more till 20k

>>16169565
> only 50% of her average for unarchived karaoke.

Sure?

>No Sabaton songs
Fucking bitch.

20k getto

>>16169900
20k get

20k get

>Gura 20k got
Doubter status?

>>16169923
Unfortunately a nogo with rules being properly followed now, too bad.

The imaginary number hit a satisfying mark

>Gura 20k in the Age of the Cull
I
FUCKING
KNEEL
SHARKIE

80% of her viewers deleted, still hits 20k.

>>16170089
By that logic there's 100k watching her now.

20k ccv with 17k likes

That’s the good stuff

Don't let the 20K number blind you fools, she should have 30K-40K for unarchived karaoke.

>>16170150
Well, that is what she got before the first cull.

>20k for a non event stream
That's it. That's the last one you're getting out of Hololive.

>>16170072
I used to be a Shark-anti, but now I am a believer...
Shark I kneel...

enjoying 20k anons? remember when this was normal only but a month ago? enjoy this one susan is sharpening the axe again

>>16170210
Kek. That's how it feels honestly, depending on what her schedule is next week.

>>16169995
Imagine being happy about getting 20k

>>16170089
Nah, her Karaoke watching audience that only tunes in for JUST her Karaokes likely hasn't been hit nearly as bad yet.
She's probably eating at stage 2/3 (30-50% cull) though since she'd normally be somewhere in the low/mid 30ks.

Susan is going to announce on Monday that these are improvements to their bot detecting algorithm.

>>16170316
Yeah, cuz HoloJP nor Nijisanji can get it without events

>>16170316
we're going to be saying the same thing about 10k next week anon.

>>16170210
Question is...Who she pointing at to carry on the flame?

>>16170150
she could unironically average 50k-60k on karaokes pre 2020 cull so it's not farfetched to believe she has more than half of her viewers not being counted this also doesn't count the massive amount of people tabbed out since this is a karaoke

>>16170316

Fuck did Susan just cap us to prevent 21K?

>>16170418
She hasn't found her successor yet. I mean literally. There are no Vtubers right now who can get pass 20k in a solo stream

So, looking at current numbers, I'm pretty sure Susan "fixed" the CCVID already. Meaning, exactly what anons feared happened: they stopped flagging new accounts as bots, but left every single flagged account still flagged. So now we just have permanent one time CCV reduction of up to 90% viewers, which is inconsistent between channels.
I fully expect CCV to start consistently going up for everybody right now.

>>16170457
Can you please kindly give the link?

>>16170501
If your name doesn't have 'Ludwig' in it you don't deserve more than 20k.

>>16170210
GO GURA PUSH TO 25K I BELIEVE

>>16169673
>>16169815
I mean if there are no numbers posted in the post that mentions it.

>>16170418
No one. Subaru, Marine, Pekora, Suisei, Miko(forma del karaoke) are all in terminal stages of CCVid.
Also doesn't look like Susan's algorithm won't allow her to get past 20k.

>>16169918
The ones around 44k+ balance the 35k ones out for an average around 40k.

>>16170422
Her single unarchived karaoke before 2020 cull was 120k. The one after cull was 54k, and we know her cull was roughly 50%

She is operating at about 70-75% cumulative cull between 2020 and the current one, which would put this stream at ~80k, which is entirely believable number for her.

>>16170518
Well it's Twitch, but there's Vsh- wait you're right lol

>>16170072
We now have confirmation Gura isn't affected by the cull, these look like numbers that fit her natural recline

And Pekora got laughed at for her sans run during the first signs of CCVid.
Life is unfair.

>>16170694
that 120k stream was too much of an outlier anon, She went back to 60k numbers for her karaokes iirc

>>16170710
Gura sleeps with Susan confirmed.

I think Gura's karaoke is probably around 90k live viewers if youtube count worked properly.

>>16170725
I mean, shitposters don't care about noticing oddities.
I thought the numbers looked unusually low, as did other Holomem's stuff. Little did we know...
>>16170549
Ah please fuck no, I'd rather this keep getting worse for everyone than a freeze right now.

>>16170710
Retard.

>>16170518
>>16170710
I hate this, now only Vshojo's top 3 can regularly crack 10K CCV. (excluding Gura)

>>16170335
He means 50% after nov 2020, and then 30-35% cut after dec 2021. But it's not correct. Real her cut 68-70% after nov 2020+ dec 2021.

>Susan desperately trying to keep her under 21k
How the fuck does this thing work? Why does it randomly decide on a cap?

>>16170710
nijisanji...

>>16170904
Her last karaoke was barely 30k.

>>16170518
ID3 will have an undeniable superstar who brings the branch to the same prestige as the others and inherits the mantle

>>16170904
Probably 50-55k pre 2020 numbers or 40k 2021.

>>16170917
Anon...this is Gura's last huzzah.
This cull isn't a flat thing, it gets worse.
If she wants to pull 10k+ on the next few ones she'll have to crack out minecras, GTAV, maaaybe DbD

>>16170969
It acts like an immune system. The more viewers, the harder it fights.

>>16170990
Check the date of her last 2 karaokes...
FYI cull theory started gaining traction on Dec 27th.

>>16170941
>50%
How?