/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list athttps://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

I hate Susan.

>>16120009
nijiEN tried making him funny, everyone just weirded out and were wondering if their accounts were hacked after they changed their pfps to his face

Susan please I don’t want my oshi to become a two view

sooo ccv is finally meaningless
time to pack up guys

34k for the owl

==SUSAN HAS SPOKEN==
this is then, a 9k stream

>>16120212
The new meta is VOD views after a few days. People resisted it for so long because it's going to be really good for the shark's rankings

>>16120191
You mean only this place did.
>>16120009
Because you are a holobrony not part of the nijisanji fanbase that does that stupid shit as well since 2019 in JP and overseas since 2020.

>>16119912
200k ccv

Kanae said this was a 15k peak stream.
Use the VOD views however you wish to guesstimate what everyone's peaks were during HoloCup tournament since the duration is basically the same.

Bringing up from previous thread, why is Rikku not memed/liked as much by their fanbase?

>>16120009
What do you even meme about Riku that's positive for the Niji fans?

Most of the memes about Riku I see here are mostly about dunking on Nijisanji.

>>16120286
Start a bait thread in the catalog.
You'll get more responses.

Also, not numbers related, so fuck off.

>>16120260
Feel free to numberfag them then. It's tedious, there's a lot of shit to account for and there's no tracking sites for them.

>>16120280
yeah, around triple for a lot of people, botan said the same after a 4k stream that showed to be 14k after processing

>>16120286
Riku looks like a douche.
Yagoo looks like a kind old uncle.

>>16120280
so 3x cull...
It means Gura was close to 90k? maybe pre 2020 cull lol

>>16120071
fpbp

>>16120275
Honestly it probably was if you counteract both the current cull and 2020 cull.
30 minute stream is short enough that it should be avoiding most viewer churn, esp when basically noone else is streaming to siphon viewers away, and it hasn't even finished processingviews

>>16120384
>Vtubers were mogging the Twitch recruits harder than we thought

No wonder Susan wants to nerf them.

>>16120191
Yaggo is a handsome and dignified man, the nijisanji guy is a fat-faced dipshit. Maybe he's a nice guy but he just looks like someone who needs to be punched.

For people who want to guess Myth's costume peaks:

>Last years NY costumes:
Coco (61k peak, 423k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/9-miUIbhZc4

Towa (57k peak, 379k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/ac80uA4Y0P4

Kanata (84k peak, 360k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/0lxAqsyXqeg

Luna (67k peak, 317k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/e36L2mooaxE

Watame (69k peak, 334k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/QJoXqGB4Vsk

Polka (85k peak, 388k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/1q5VK5T4Rw8

Lamy (71k peak, 334k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/Qb2d4dtUKaU

Botan(87k peak, 369k views):
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/qvmF2KxKZSQ

lol Gura has 436k already

>>16120260
It's boring. It's like numberfagging game attendance rather than score.

>>16120444
JPs are hit harder, but if you take account for the Dec 2020 cull then 90k is definitely possible.
>>16120478
and no, you're ridiculous.

>>16120605
easy 2x ccv, debatable 3x, maybe 2.5x displayed ccv?

>>16120009
I know looks are subjective but I think Yagoo looks like a friendly uncle that clowns around while Rikku isn't old enough to give off that energy yet.

>>16120286
ultimately? Because the Holo EN fanbase and the JP fanbase has alot of crossover thanks to Coco, so the memes are generally shared, whereas the nijiEN and nijiJP fanbase are pretty much completely distinct, and in the case of nijiJP might as well be warlord era china so Rikku is only a meme in Japan.

>>16120679
I meant her marika tourney stream sorry lmao

>>16120605
Gura at least hit 100k for sure

>>16120690
I think 2.5 is fine, especially since you already have a buffer of "missing" viewers from the 2020 issue. If you set it as 3x it's basically saying they haven't lost *any* viewers or have even picked up more since April and that is counter to a lot of ancillary evidence like large drops in SC totals.

>>16121041
x3 seems about right, maybe a little more. not everyone votes in poles... in fact i'd be stunned if you got 80% participation in them, especially with all the foreign language viewers.

>40k Votes for Mumei

>>16120809
Dear god it's so amazing how you guys are disconected from nijisanji. The bigger nijisanji discord literally has many emojis from him dating back from 2020. On twitter he's memed as well. Always has been the case from english speaking fans, heck, even from the ID branch where they nicknamed him. EN also made it even more known with what happened in their streams.

>>16120490
You forgot to account that if there was a cull, when you multiply the VTuber's numbers, then you'll have to multiply the other streamers' numbers as well before comparing them, right?
>>15877832
>>15877902
https://twitter.com/LudwigAhgren/status/1466576027858001928?s=20

>>16121041
Yeah what the other guy said, usually you only expect about 20-30% poll participation. Anything above that is grounds for election fraud.

>>16120191
>>16120286
>proud of how much you suck your CEO's dick
Truly the Apple of vtubing. Yagoo = Steve Jobs. Hopefully he dies of AIDS too.

>>16119994
mumie meme review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRXVVKej11A

ccv 8.6k
likes 13k
votes in poll 41k

susan is fucking all the girls so hard she should be arrested for gangrape.

>>16121251
https://archive.wakarimasen.moe/vt/thread/15870140/#15877832

>>16121149
Then explain why Yagoo is such a recognisable meme whereas Rikku is one that the ENs try to force in every occasion

i know roboco is a machine but i don't think she's gonna make it to the 800k...

>>16121293
you what they say

>>16121293

>>16121305
I just don't get the hard cap at 8k for is. She is clearly getting more people to sit and watch because the chat speed keeps going up.

>>16121293

>>16121284
I would expect higher participation in vtuber polls, especially near the beginning of streams before a lot of people have got fidgety or had their ADHD kick in and have tabbed out. If you do one 2 hours in to a stream, 30% participation, sure, if it's 10 minutes in I bet you could get 80% within say another 10 minutes.

>>16120191
>>16120266
>>16120547
>>16120341
>>16120758
>>16121293
Why do you guys always talk shit about your talents and staffs as if you are trying to look "cool" for looking down on people?
Can't you guys have fun and appreciate simple things for once?
Just sit back look at numbers and enjoy cute things.

Question: why does the poll keeps going up?

>>16121738
more people coming in and voting

migo... this isn't even a nike logo anymore

>>16121738
Churn and people tabbing back in or coming back from afk and noticing there's a poll.

>>16121701
I bet you believe Putin has 80% approval too.

>>16121738
if you let it go for too long it's starts displaying viewer churn, that's why it's useless to show poll results that are longer that, let's say, 5 mins

https://livecounts.io/youtube-live-view-counter/dRXVVKej11A
So... is this site to be trusted?

>>16121738
at this point the poll is reflecting the people who watched and is watching

>>16120280
i hope some chuubas just start lying about their real viewcounts
subaru likes to make up shit, right? i hope she pulls up a random game stream and says "oh yeah, this was a 35k stream"

>>16121768
>>16121800
>>16121842
>>16121854

FUCKING STOP NORMALIZING OVER 100% ENGAGEMENT

>>16121863
why are people so convinced shuba is a pathological liar, i never got where that came from

>>16121842
>>16121854
naruhodo
I choose to believe in you.
Thanks

Will Japan ever allow foreigners like Myth to come to Japan at this rate? I think 3D debuts might be more of a myth than HoloMyth is.

>CCVID will be fixed
>Remove polls
>No more discrepancy

>>16121842
It's interesting to note that people here freak out if you leave a poll up for 20 minutes because supposedly there's thousands of people entering and leaving the stream in that time rendering it completely useless, but if you leave it up for an hour this enormous torrent of people stops and only gradually increases the poll as time goes on. Weird.

>>16121779
That line looks like piss landing on a treadmill kek

>>16121965
example of japanese numberfag

>>16121738
>Can't you guys have fun and appreciate simple things for once?
I mean, either they are newfags that are proudly ignorant of anything not related to Hololive or they're tribalfags looking to talk shit about the other team.
Neither group is worth responding to.

As for the poll, it's an old poll now and by the time Mumei ends her stream, she'll have ~80k views before processing so it's not too unbelievable.

Peak viewers / Unique chatters - Outfit Reveal

Collab 26,490 / 7,401
Gura 50,124 / 6,003
Ina 31,271 / 5,674
Mori 38,715 / 5,520
Kiara 21,483 / 4,669
Ame 32,569 / 4,654

>>16121920
It's a joke from 5ch that retards around here treat as 100% true

>>16121842
Viewer churn is only a factor when the vote is open for an hour, and it would still struggle to get 100% of CCV unless the CCV crashed from going to supers or something.
Anything over 30-40% within 10 minutes is extremely suspicious.

God i fucking hate susan so much

>>16121779
This is elite Nike logo

>Mumei said her study stream had 11k people.
So there's your answer. They don't look at their analytics page. They don't care about the correct number. CCV displayed during stream is the correct number in their mind.

>>16121920
Because all the shit she said can't all be true? Face it, content creators sometimes make shit up to spice their contents.

According to livecounts.io who supposedly tracks live viewers "accurately". Mumei has 30k watching her right now.

>>16121920
First time I'm seeing this rrat desu.

>>16121965
They will sometime, tourism was an enormous part of their economy. Eventually merchants are gonna start leaning on the government but who knows how long this will take.

>No more daily tally
>no more chartanon
>no more decline or incline indicator
>no more big number
Admit it... it's over numberbros...

>>16122213
It's a time of transformation for numberfagging, but at least it's kinda fun to have a place to discuss the phenomenon. We have to take life as it comes, anon.

>>16122154
that seems accurate

>>16122154
this tracks total views tourist chama

>>16122213
We can still numberfag sub counts.

>>16122034
Ina's "WAH" spam really bumps up her unique chatters, a lot of people who don't normally talk really get into doing that.

>>16122213
the dead cat bounce was us all along

>>16122213
all is talk now a days is how much anons hate susan

>>16122154
are you retarded? you can put any YT link there, it tracks the growth of views over time, put Gura's for example, even if she's not streaming, its increasing

>>16122213
This is just the place where we document the CCVID pandemic and it's effect. Until the cure is found, there's nothing we can do.

>>16122312
VOD and Subs are no fun

>>16122312
>wake up
>x got 10k subs y got 15k subs z ate a 20k sub cull FUCK YOU SUSAN
>sleep

>>16121851
They are getting data from YouTube's API

>>16122285
Well then, it's not accurate if the poll has 47k votes....

>>16122525
Here's your answer, vod views are processing

>>16121344
because you are a hololive viewer and not a nijisanji fan, it's that simple. You aren't connected with the nijisanji fanbase, therefore you miss tons of memes and conversations about things related to them.

>>16122525
oh yea, the poll had more votes than VOD views now
i mean it will obviously get more once the views get verified but that's still pretty funny

>>16122213
>No more Jp vs EN timeloop
>No more le holobronny vs muh Nijinigger
>Everyone united and agreed YouTube cull is no longer cope.People work together posting evidence to Twitter

>>16122581
this + YT shits the bed once it reaches a threshold, literally stops counting until the stream ends

So, is this the end of #?

>>16122525
It's the info Youtube provides. It's views that you're getting when the stream is over. Obviously, they're not accurate and never were accurate.

>>16122615
Can't be that good if they can't reach frontpage of YT or even Reddit.

And can't even gain traction in vt.

Mumei final graph

>>16122692
the night just started, JP prime time means more fuckery to track

>Why are Seanigs such a fragile little faggots?

>>16122627
>No more Jp vs EN timeloop

>>16122213
the /#/ become /news/

>>16122744
it shows that you dont know niji fanbase when their activity is mostly on twitter and discord.

>>16122792
>Twitter and Discord cope.

>>16122692
Maybe we should migrate to DJT and learn Japanese together!

>>16122792
So, irrelevant then.

>>16120256
still better than jp cull

>>16122277
>>16122312
>>16122347
>>16122354
>>16122413
>>16122785
>Take me back

I can feel the Google Trends picture incoming after reading that rumao

>>16122792
I've seen yagoo trending on twitter but not rikku

>discord
lol bubble

>>16122948
please don't summon him

>>16122792
Yagoo can trend on Twitter internationally, he is known by a majority of vtuber viewers worldwide.

>>16122213
I can still numberfags SC numbers and probably song views

Is today a niji holiday niji or what? why are they not streaming?

>>16123096
don't they have the rest of the mahjong shit today?

>>16123096
Aren't they playing mahjong?

>>16123096
1, 5, 6 and 9 are from yesterday

>>16123190
this is the niji tally of today so far, of course all JST

>>16122770
Enjoy your vacation again anon

>>16122692
We should just rename this place to /news/ and discuss vtuber news

>>16123221
The daily tally uses the start date

>>16123375
oh, you mean that, understandable

>>16123417
s-sugoi...

>>16122792
If their memes were any good they would have beaten Hololive to the punch and captured the international market.

They didn't, despite their overwhelming lead on Hololive back in the days, their memes failed to catch on.

>>16123417
migoti...

>>16123417
not my migoti...

>>16123505
The only ones I really see get posted here are “Nijisanjification” , “Accelerate” and that one where he’s trying to look cool.

>>16120286
because yagoo > tazumi
even niji nips hating the guy

>>16122744
>>16122792
Literally nothing. Not a single result

>>16121851
looks like a lot more believable numbers

>>16123505
I wonder how Hololive did it desu.

>>16123646
Faggot

>>16123872
The highest upvoted one being Hololive related is funny.

>>16123872
kek, first result is literally someone asking to explain a meme

>>16123872
Really? The only time he got mentioned on Niji subreddit was when EN pulled a forced meme on him and they even had to include Ollie for it to work.

>>16124017
Everyone is leeching from Hololive

Subaru is free from the waiting room curse

>>16124084
Shit, are number finally back to no-
>24 minutes to reach waiting room
nvm

why the fuck are you people tribalfagging over CEO worship? take it to another thread

>>16124017
>>16124051
>>16123872
>Nijinigger cant meme

Streams over 2k so far (14:00 09.01.2020)

Gura 50,982
Mori 38,821
Ame 32,958
Ina 31,352
Kiara 27,060
Kira 21,671
Mumei 8,860
*Subaru 6,758
*Kronii 6,159
*Miko 4,334
Ike 3,953
Mysta 3,139
Mashiro 2,970
Ratna 2,481
*Koyori 2,330
*Towa 2,030

*Ongoing

>>16124163
Numberfags can't help but correct lies and other blatantly wrong posts.
It blinds them from realizing they're being trolled.

how does yagoo's anal-juice taste today numberfags?

>>16123705
i think that YAGOO generally being the butt of the jokes as the CEO is why they catch on so easily. It's pretty fun making fun of the guy with the entire bag, and all the YAGOO memes come at his expense. The AKB interview, the depressed yagoo, the little kirby guys being built(and blown up) all over the holosaba...

>>16124147
At least she is reaching the waiting room, that's a improvement...

>>16124380
Jokes on you I taste Riku's juice instead

>>16124334
>Streams over 2k
kek

>>16124163
>>16124380

>>16123872
That post with a thousand upvotes is Hololive-related.

>>16121344
because you are tribalfag, you worship this corporation for some bizarre reason and make memes of the CEO who you don't even know. Instead of just watching whatever vtuber you want, you are trapped in a numberfagging mind-prison and only watch the absolute most-viewed streamers, and invest thousands of hours obsessing over CCV averages. It's really sad

>>16124478
2k is mid tier now anon
You have to get used to it

>>16124557
Seethe

>>16124557
My oshi is a low-mid Holo so yes, I indeed watch whatever vtuber I want.

>>16124334
EN strong.

>>16124597
someone who feels the need to be part of the group is a natural slave. You need to feel like you're part of the popular team because of your own insecurity. You can't just watch what you find entertaining, instead you spend your time staring at the viewcounter and missing most of the stream

>>16124557

Muh Fagoo CEO worship. Sure feels good being a corporate drone right holobronies.

>>16124744
I want to lick the shit out of his asshole

Who fucking cares

>Subaru just reached waiting numbers
Numbers are back!!!

>>16124557
>"Worship a corporation"
Seething much?

>>16124744
oh that reminds me I need to make a yagoo thread on the catalogue

>>16124744
cry is free

>>16124557
i watch my 3view daughterwife on twitch all the time and hololive, seethe retard

>>16124681
Seethe

Slightly different poll. Predictable result. If the whole group moves, fans will follow. I'm willing to bet, it will be the same on the JP side.

>>16124744
You are shallow for you don't understand that we don't worship the man himself but the idea he represents.

>>16123872
Why is their subreddit so dead in comparison to Hololive?

>>16124902
Someone should make similar poll on Japanese website. R****t is full with westerner that are already used to Twitch.

>>16125027
So like Apple? Funny enough, Fagoo is actually a Macfag.

>>16121877
No-one is doing that. They're pointing out that if a poll is over 5 minutes long it starts to become less a measure of concurrent viewership and more about overall viewers over time. Streams end with over 100k views but that doesn't mean there were 100k people all watching at the same time. The key word here is concurrent.

>>16125156
Less people.

>>16120280
>Kanae said this was a 15k peak stream.
Do you have timestamp?

i see the lack of numebrs is causing people to lose teir minds with tirbalism

Anyway if you guys want to laugh a little search for xqc in japanese twitter.
They jsut caught of him streamign HxH to 90k people.

>>16125255
>No one is doing that
>Proceeds to do exactly that
NO
NO POLL SHOULD EVER, EVER GET MORE THAN 100% CCV, BARRING EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES LIKE SUPERCHAT READING

>>16125283
He talks about it at the beginning of his last Inscryption stream. There’s timestamps in the comment section

>>16125156
Because hundreds of millions of Niji fans are using Twitter and Discord.

This should have been an easy 3k, but now he's relegated back to NijiEN tier numbers.

>>16125323
If the Japanese companies weren’t paying attention before, now they will.
100k live viewers watching HxH.

>>16125474
Stop shitposting. Nobody watches the homos

Yagoo meme is genius, because it's used to shut down comparisons between talent and reinforce unity of the fanbase. As soon as a new fan starts to compare talent, you can just say that Yagoo is the best girl and they will be force to agree due to a meme. This indoctrinates new fans into the idea of unity and box pushing, keeping big and ever growing fanbase in check.

>>16125337
>NO POLL SHOULD EVER, EVER GET MORE THAN 100% CCV
Polls get over peak CCV all the time you fucking retard, especially if they've been up for an hour. How hard is it to understand if a poll has been up for a long time and has 30k votes that doesn't mean that 30k people were all watching the stream at one point in time?

Yes engagement is typically 30%-50% but the number of people watching a stream at any point in time is typically only around 10-15% of the people who will cycle through the stream over it's entire duration. Stop sperging out about shit you clearly have no idea about.

>>16125613
THEY SHOULD NOT
EVER
EVER
GET 100% ENGAGEMENT

THEY SHOULDN'T EVEN GET OVER 50% ENGAGEMENT

STOP
STOP
STOP
STOP
STOP
STOP
STOP
STOP

>>16125245
I dont remember steve jobs being memed or even if, embracing it like yagoo does
but keep seething that riku aint shit compared to him nijisister

>>16121293
Does this mean Yagoo is going to die of cancer?

>>16124334
It will be interesting by adding waiting room numbers next to them.

>>16125323
how tf do u search japanese twitter specificaly?

>>16125323
Is he gonna get banned

>>16125323
why are twitch niggers so fucking lazy restreaming everything recently. even news of that shit went mainstream because I found out about it on a news website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKJErsN-ylU
>200K in 3 hours
1M in less time than ochame kinou is definetly out of the picture

>>16123505
>>16123570
As I said before, you guys are only in hololive circles. This very thread is an example of this. It's only surface level of nijisanji info.

>>16125800
banned and sued for millions

Iofi...

>>16124204
It's as if bleakforest is a holobrony..

>>16125790
advanced search xqc and then limit the language to japanese only

>>16125662
A poll having more votes than peak CCV if it's been up for an hour doesn't mean it's gotten 100% engagement. That's the fundamental mistake you're making. 100k people can cycle through a stream over that time, the max CCV can be 20k and the votes on the poll can be 30k.

What does this mean?
>There were a maximum of 20k people watching AT THE SAME TIME
>The poll has 30% engagement from all people who clicked on the stream over that period
>100k people watched the stream at any point in time over its duration

Understand? A poll having more votes than CCV doesn't mean it had 100% engagement, it only means it has more votes than the stream had viewers at any single point in time. You need to understand viewer churn better, a stream is not a static mass of people, when CCV is stable that means that people are joining the stream at the same rate that people are leaving much like a bucket with a hole in it will stabalize at a certain water level of you pour water into it at the same rate water leaves through the hole.

>>16125800
eventually he'll get a dmca and stop, nothing else will happen. ignore the lawsuit doom larper

>>16125896
VOD views might be processing slower, don't forget it's a recent Youtube 'feature'. It's pointless to numberfag time to milestones this early. Come back in two days.

>>16125943
I never realized before but Bobon, Siska, Hana and a few others are in the same level as Iofi lol

Youtube will turn into bilibili and replace CCV with popularity points too.

>>16125896
its a shit song

>>16125323
And no one will do anything about it. Twitch is so lenient with these popular streamers anyway.

>>16125670
>bro, I only worship him IRONICALLY, you don't understand

>>16125989
nah. they wish they had iofi's numbers. she's also underselling herself. goes to show how much attention she pays to her own numbers.

>>16126154
anon, they are only like 400-600 viewers below

>>16126119
pokimane caught a short ban and a few DMCAs went out from viacom and the people that own masterchef. japanese companies are too impotent to do anything about people streaming anime

>>16126148
THIS but unironically

>>16125323
Holy shit twitch streamers really don't want to produce content

>>16125323
just link it retard
https://twitter.com/search?q=xqc%20lang%3Aja&src=typed_query&f=top

>>16126154
anyone has the image with ALL december?

>>16126222
It's because the meta is to stream long hours to stay relevant, and it burns through content very quickly.

Vtuber meta is honestly way healthier.

>>16126154
AIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE.... Numberrrrrr...
Anyone have 2021 yearly median?

>>16126119
if i was twitch, i would be calling cover right now to get holo en on the platform. clean streamers that don't do copyrighted stuff and barely even swear with their own massive audience cost way more than 30 million youtube paid for ludwig.

>>16126154
Am I retarded or is Gura missing from that list?

>>16125943
i-i can save her

>>16126320
She did not stream enough in the first 10 days.

>>16125890
the theory right now is that xqc is trying to get banned so he has an excuse to stop streaming for a few days and move back to canada where he won't get buttfucked constantly by his ISP

>>16126266
sure

>>16126119
What’s interesting is I was watching the Devil Nash interview with the Pretzel CEO and he mentioned that the music industry has been recording every instance of XQC copyright infringement since 2016. They were using him to go after Twitch to get them to pay the record labels. They basically spent 5 years building a case.
I imagine the movie industry has been doing the exact same thing.

I think Twitch might have their own Watamage considering they keep on growing while the competitors are dead. There's also the fact that Amazon is so big no company ever try the Ad-pocalypse thing with Twitch, therefore Twitch streamers get off scott free. Even if they gets truck with DMCA and banned, at beast, these streamers will be banned for a few days before returning.

Twitch is so strong that I think the next big vtuber group will come from them. (not counting vshojo of course because they can't incline anymore)

>>16126195
At that level that's literally double their average.

>>16126346
Just stop streaming then?

>>16126366
>(not counting vshojo of course because they can't incline anymore)
Why would you lie about this in the numberfag thread of all places? Vshojo is on a big incline right now.

>>16126365
And nothing will be done about it. If what he said was true, for 5 fucking years, no one has done anything. I doubt another 5 will mean much. Twitch streamers can basically do anything not involving hardcore porn.

>>16126426
he already tried to this week but he's unironically too autistic for that, he needs to be physically stopped by someone else

>>16126366
they are doing it on purpose, a lot of those shows are NOT in their catalog, so they will
>LOOK a 100 bajillion viewers WANT TO watch your show on the platform!
>pls giv permissions to stream
>yeah we have the platform and it works!
their execs are not that retarded
pretty sure they already told the top streamers that
>in [x] months, you will have to stream using the official watchalong feature on twitch
they are already conditioning viewers

>>16126431
Show their numbers or get the fuck out of here, okay. They can barely get 30k on a big stream.

It's seem like the failure of council is greatly exaggerated.

>>16126355
So in the end Sun-a below Moon-a

>>16126355
>>16126383
anon, from what i see on that image bobon is only 200 behind iofi. Then you have other ID and even KR almost at the same level. For me this is worrying because they all have much less subs

>>16126514
Veibae had her highest CCV on her last stream, nyanners had her second-highest solo CCV (and third overall) on her last stream
they are still inclining

>>16126514
why are you moving the goalposts?

Veibae got over 15 on twitch today is she now the most popular vshojo?

>>16126688
exaggerated? maybe, I would say that they are just "meh" in comparison to myth
they need to work in their upload game, they need music or shorts, idk

>>16126355
Did Chartanon ever release a six-month median? Not that the numbers are accurate, but numbers...

roboco...

>>16126453
>He doesn't remember when Twitch wiped out ALL Vods in response to getting their ass fucked over by the music industry
Note that the 'since 2016' was for music copyright infringement.
These things move relatively slowly. The react watchalong meta hasn't been around nearly long enough for the big corps to have built a big enough case to assfuck someone in one go. They don't want two, three instances of this shit when they go to court, they want 100+. Per target. These DMCA notices going out are warning shots that "Hey, we know what you're doing, and if you know what's good for you, S T O P". Of course, none of these chucklefucks will, and eventually there will be some very stern, very cold papers served and oh are they gonna fucking suck for everyone on Twitch.

>>16126514
they have such a low ceiling, niji and holo reach 100k lots of times, can reach 50k with just collabs without relying on outside streamers

>>16126796
depends by what metric
she's been only a little bit ahead of nyanners in CCV lately but nyanners is still more popular overall if you count her presence on twitter / youtube

How come Vshojo fags are so bitter and angry all the time?

>>16126796
https://twitchtracker.com/veibae/streams/45075831885
>from 13k to 17 and then back to 14 in less than 15min
uh?
uh?

>>16126688
Depends on what you mean by failure. Are they as popular as myth? No, but myth was fucking lightning in a bottle anyway. At the very least Kronii and Mumei have big audiences (in December their median ccv was only surpassed by Gura and Mori I believe), while Fauna and Bae still pull in enough people to not be dead weight, though they could do better. Only Sana could be considered struggling

>>16125323
there was at least 1k japs in his stream according with his viewer location

>>16126876
we need some anon to make a list for the entire 2021 in median and average. would be nice

>>16126917
When? The question is when?
It's been years and years and years. Nothing has been done, and nothing will be done. Twitch streamers always get away with their stuff. At vest, wrists will be slapped, but nothing more serious than that.

>>16127006
slight correction for myself, Ina was above Mumei in ccv for December. Still stand by my overall point

>>16126878
I just checked the stream. It's looking fine isn't it? Should get to the goal no problem. It's still afternoon in JP.

peko's gotten to the L stage of ccvid
also niji mahjong started

>>16126980
Pretty obvious she got raided at least twice in that chart.

>>16126980
Raids....

Ahhhhhh the CCVid is getting worse on Pekora's Livestream, only 1,8k on the ぶんぶんちゃ!ぶんぶんちゃ! PekoRap intro, I want to Kms...

>>16126920
Iirc some anon showed that they overlap heavily with the mizfit clique now which is where their recent bump came from (he has her as his wallpaper now)

What ever happens to Vshojo 2nd gen anyway? It's been over 6 months I think. Being in Vshojo doesn't need much training so why the long period?

>>16127130
yeah, the second part yesterday went from
28k -> 8k
this one fell off from
19k -> 7k

If Hololive enables raids on YT they are going to really fuck up this thread. Can you imagine the amount of cope and seethe?
>"BBBBUT IT WAS A RAID THAT'S NOT THE REAL NUMBERS"

>>16126980
>a 7hour 90k views stream gets 17k peak ccv
are twitch viewers stream addicts or is amazon doing funny things to their ccv counter to hide their actually miniscule audience base

waiting numbers

>>16127130
>also niji mahjong started
7 min recover is very fast for a JP stream these days.

>>16127224
you're still counted even if you tab out, you only need to have the stream open to be counted which means that the viewer retention is insane in twitch

>>16127179
How smart, they have successfully infiltrated the popular cliques of Twitch. Are there any other more popular cliques aside from OTV and Mizkif's friends?

>>16127224
>are twitch viewers stream addicts
Pretty much. The only thing you can do on the website is watch streams.

>>16127224
viewbots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUa0kbNZ7c4

>>16126753
That's post-cull. Her CCV was literally slashed in half on 25th.

Pegors 3k after 13 minutes lmao

>>16127375
Viewbotting is an sreious problem twitch has, but most of the time it isn't in place. Like another anon said, twitch still counting tabbed out viewers plays a big role in retention

>>16127224
Twitchtracker's VOD tracking isn't the most accurate.
Right now, it's still processing, but her older VODs have the real number.

~200k for a 4+ hour stream with 15k CCV is very low by Holo standards tho.
Gura's MK stream yesterday is at 280k and it's 2 hours with a 11k (culled obv) peak.

>>16125323
In moments like that I stay glad that vtubers part of a brand can't take reaction streams too far, this shit is insane

>>16127375
Devin Nash's whole career is centered around creating clickbait to shit on twitch. He's not a reliable source by any means.

Pekora 3K get!!!

>>16127200
People will just switch to average CCV (assuming that CCV ever gets fixed).

>>16127224
people come to twitch specifically to watch streams, so there's always a higher retention
>>16127375
the fextralife cope is pretty pathetic, it holds as much water as claiming cover's numbers come from viewbots because crypto streams on youtube have them

>>16127375
Unless you have evidence of someone using embedded streams on websites to viewbot Vshojo like Fextralife does, shut the fuck up.

>>16127446
Does twitch even have payouts for vods?

>>16127200
For raids to have any meaning we need to fix this CCV mess first. And there's no fix in sight so far.
Has Youtube even acknowledged the problem in English? Or was it only in Japanese? Because their responses in Japanese are literally worthless.

>>16127502
sugoi...

>>16127086
He said that Mado doesn't start tracking until some time in July, so there's no numbers for Niji before that. (Also I meant five-month median.) Here's Hololive.

>>16127548
It was posted in the last thread but the English support said that they’re working on fixing it iirc

>>16127446
Jesus, Twitch vtubers stream for crazy hours. I rarely see YT vtubers stream for 7-8 hours thus regularly. The fuck are they doing there?

>>16127441
Discounting tabbed out users is the most retarded thing ever. Literally every other streaming website, and even regular ass TV doesn't expect people to sit there glued to the screen. You turn the video on and you listen to it and you do your own thing. That's completely normal human behavior.

>>16127574
GO ASTEL GO

>>16127631
watching youtube

>>16127631
Watching youtube

>>16125610
Very good point and you see it so much

>"Who is the best Hololive girl?"
"They are all awesome and special in their own way"

BEST GIRL: YAGOO

YT stream numbers will keep on dropping at this rate. Twitch and Jeff will always win.

>>16127637
blame gook stans, the reason they disable it is because people abuses it

>>16127567
She's inclining too.
Might get 4K soon

>>16127631
mixed content but big and easy timesink is as others have already replied watching videos. most of the streamers i watch play games at least 80-90% of their streams and they all push 5-8 hours a day at the least on days they stream with videos being good filler for lunch/breaks

>>16127631
You're dead on Twitch when you not stream. Incidentally, Hololive will not face that problem, because as the international group of more than 50 people, they will be able to fill all 24 hours with streams without running their talent and quality of content into the ground. So there will pretty much always be a discoverable Hololive stream.

>>16127749
That shit digusts me so much, it's a hivemind. Anything you say against the hive will be buried.

>>16127631
watching youtube

>>16127631
It's commonplace to switch games during long twitch streams, but most YT vtubers like keeping it clean for the archive.

Most people just put a stream on and tab out so you see much more consistent viewership and straight lines during Twitch streams too.
Someone like Veibae for example, would have double the viewers of Kiara, but have a slower chat.

>>16127631
Once you get to a certain size on twitch you need to stream long hours to keep growing. Most twitch streamers have a very heavy grind mindset. And I think once you upgrade from the basic partner contract to the higher tier contracts with better revenue splits, there are minimum stream hour requirements. Ludwig cited that as the biggest reason for switching to YT.

>>16127631
Twitch streams are easy when you don't have to actually talk, just put some funny videos and the chat will tell you how to react since everyone has a hivemind of emotes

>>16127840
I'd like for Vshojo to do that, but it looks like only 3 will work. Also, each of them seems to have their own little clique and some members are not even as close to each other despite small number.

>>16127631
Watching YouTube

anyone got the numbers for the last 2 parts of niji mahjong from last year

USADA PEKORA NOW IS CONFIRMED 4k STREAMER
HAHAHAHAHA

>>16127948
I don't think Vshojo has the ability to box-push since the members have to willingly share their fame. Looking how slow Vshojo gen 2 is at right now, I doubt they like a piece of their pie cut off.

>>16126431
Sure they are jackass. Vshitshow can barely get over 10k for an entire company 3D collab stream. Miko got that with a fucking watch along today.

Vshitshow goes into the trash where it belongs.

>>16127631
think of streams on twitch as shift work, if you dont show up for your shift you might get replaced. theres LOTS of long hour streamers willing to soak up viewers that normally flock to your ass in your usual time slots. so these streamers stream long huge chunks usually in the same timeslot for hours on end to maintain their viewership, Not really a problem in Hololive as its fostered a different type of approach as long as you do stream somewhat and after building up that core fanbase a little in your formative start.

>>16127631
Leech off content from others. Most of them are secondary content creators akin to clippers at this point.

>>16127839
Not really. It's more like certain type of unsavory and unnecessarily divisive discussion gets filtered. There's still plenty of shit gets thrown at Cover when big yab happens.
On the contrary, as soon as something happens in Nijisanji, their fans rush to do damage control and downplay the situation.

>>16128069
is still climbing anon, if you want to shitpost go to hlgg

>>16128147
did you stumble into here from the catalog? This is a place for intellectual discussion, not tard rage.

It's been almost 24 hours for the Niji Mahjong VODs from yesterday to finish processing, and both are still ~400k lower than Towa's MK tournament VOD.

If we assume Niji didn't decline (they more likely inclined recently after NJU and NijiMK), their CCV for yesterday should be 90-100k+ easily.
Since Towa's VOD is higher, then obviously she's in that range too.

From all the data we have access too, we're looking at a 2x incline for Towa and HoloCup from 2021. (51k peak -> 110k+ peak)

I’m unsure if this has anything to do with the KR boom for Myth and Council, but Kronii it outpacing La+ and Chloe in subs/day now. Hopefully she can keep it up and get another meme stream like the noodle challenge going one of these days

>>16126453
5 years is nothing building a case against Amazon. The record industry spent years building a case against Cox cable before winning a $1 billion dollar judgement in a copyright lawsuit over Cox not properly policing their network against torrenting music.

What the FUCK happened

>>16128245
>wanting the villains to win

>>16125790
“lang:ja”

>>16128077
Here are the overlaps of their top 3 streamers.

>>16126426
He’s too obsessed with streaming to stop

>>16128294
>mizkif, sodappoppin,xqc
twitch really is small world.

>>16128261
We're tired of Pokemon already

>>16128242
>That difference in real time engagement (likes)
Holy shit

>>16127546
No, it's just ad impressions. Twitch can run mid-roll ads. She could just throw up an ad-break during bathroom break or something.

>>16128245
Anon, even Gura is outpacing them to 4M.

>Pekora has more likes than viewers
Susan... you will pay for all of this

2 million

>>16128261
i told you fags it will be temporary

>>16128069
laugh while you can nijisister

>>16128274
They’ll probably always outpace their gen but honestly, it seems like people really don’t find their content interesting at all and just like them for, well, them. They’re obviously different but Iroha probably compares closer to Kronii since both are pretty interesting and they actually play games.

>>16128294
>using the 30min
anon...

>>16128389
The way JP watchers never like or comment much really irks me. It's just a button, how are they so allergic towards them.

>>16128470
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>16128497
>JP watchers
Ummm, the Hololive stream was Japanese as well you dolt, lol. I think you should be asking why don't Nijiniggers care about their own streams.

>>16128490
I like that Vshojo is now gaining audience from big streamers as well. This is proof that the ceiling for Vshojo will be much higher.

>>16128389
Holo streams always destroy Niji streams in likes and comments and clips (maybe? look to be the same for JP clips and internationally, there's way more Holo clips)

That's when you know something like NJU 2021 probably had 200k+ CCV because that stream had 100k likes while ongoing and Nijifans/tourists rarely like streams lol.

>>16128400
Trying to bet against Gura's sub growth without a buff of any sort is a fool's errand.

There's a reason this thread doesn't like to numberfag subs.

>>16128490
That explains why they don't get big numbers for events.
They're mostly the same people on each stream.

>>16128261
She turned her tourists into regulars, I guess.

>>16128555
Do you mean they became second/third/more choice of viewers? They need to leech big streamers to stay big all of their career life

>>16128470
They laugh, but Kuzuha is basically in the same situation

>mogged by EN and reddit duck
nosagibros, it's time to convince her to stream on twitch isn't it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/HoloStatistics/comments/rz8gri/hololive_top_90_covers_for_the_first_week_of/

>>16128261

>>16128772
nijisister don't look!!

Gura's kimono stream is at 500k views, another 1M contender. Her NY celebration is also close to 1M now.

3rd part of niji mahjong on pace to beat 2nd part, probably between 3 and 4k more, but it's behaving pretty different from yesterday and it's youtube so who knows, could be higher

>>16127790
Anon, you do realize that instead of counting as a single view, people who alt-tab count as multiple views on Youtube? Youtube basically inflates their viewership, at the same time they have no reason to slash their CCV, since it doesn't affect anything, apart from looking worse than it is. But they do it anyway.

>>16128870
Views don't count anon. Views on YT the the most pathetic metrics ever, even if it belongs to a video and not stream. Premiere numbers will be the most accurate metric in the future.

enjoying yourselves numberanons?

>>16129039
Youtube is all about subs. Always was. Always will be.

>>16129085
i want to die watamelon poster

>>16128870
Another 1 mil vod for shork and that new song also going to hit a mil in a week. Hololive en channel need to put more content, they almost at 500k subs.

>>16129039
Retard, the only true metric is the highest amount of likes on the top comment.
Everything else is horseshit.

>>16129100
Subs don't matter on YT anymore. The important number that all of my mid size youtuber friends care about is how many people have the notification bell on. That's your true fanbase.

>>16129085
No, I'm butthurt. but comfy samurai helps me cope

>>16129085
>half the thread is twitch and vshojo discussion
susan needs to get this shit fixed asap

>>16129146
Nah, bell is amateur stuff. Your true fanbase is how much subscribers your Reddit has.

Is this niji mahong only one part or there will be more?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA
NUMBERCHADS IT IS TIME

Gozaru is doing first solo holosaba Minecraft. Very buff stream for her, probably has around 20-25k people in reality.

>>16129226
At least Twitch has a more stable side when it comes to number, and they don't actively cull anything. YT, on the other hand, is lost.

>>16129257
pretty sure it's 4 parts, qualis yesterday and semis+finals today, but i don't watch nijis

>>16129262
finally something to give me some solace these grim nights....

>>16129262
Who cares about that anymore, numbers are fucked so these charts are entirely useless.

>>16129262
Top 50 start with >60K

>>16129288
this is like her first graph in like a week that doesn't look like a giant L

>>16129262
Starting at 50k this week, pretty good

>>16129288
Minecraft is a buff game for holomen even rui got 150k+ vod playing it yesterday.

>>16129341
no it's not, if everything is fucked, they should be equally fucked, this stuff takes a week of updates, and the only case where this would fail is on something that is still processing when the cut is made, which would be fixed for the next one

this is why old holos are still stacking a shitton of views per month, they have more micro increments being accumulated over time

>>16128870
Maybe Gura's VOD is processing faster than the others or her views are just so much higher, but as of right now, it doesn't seem like Myth did that well for their costumes.

Most of them are hovering around Koyori/Nene VOD levels, which is around 100k less views than last year's batch.
>>16120605

this has a surprising amount of staying power

top 33 are 100k+ a week already neat.

>>16129262
>#33 above 100k
Holy shit

>Mio's Supercool at 31
Oh boy this week is going to be bloody

>>16129305
deepl
>[#NijiSanji Mahjong Cup] New Year! NijiSanji Mahjong Cup 2022 - Semifinals and Final

So both cull happened on december right? Anyone has december 2019 numbers to compare?

>>16129734
>Dec 2019
lol that's when Gen 4 debuted.

>>16129765
I just want to know if they hire a pajeet every december to update ccv system

yep, very bloody week

>>16129734
I heard about the cull for views to counter the Kpop craze, but no idea when did that happen.

So, why are these ranking channels always avoiding original songs? Isn't everything copyrighted anyways?

WTF sudden 10% increase in views for a 2 month old EYE cover?
I remember when Lui's cover reached 1 mil before Towa's despite Towa's being a month older.

So, this got 110k last year? I don't think it will get that high. Gura might slip though.

>>16129903
did she do anything else more recently, a new song could spur people to look at older stuff, or youtube algo hit just right randomly for it.

already hitting 200k+ and still quite a few songs to go

>Getcha #16
What the fuck

>>16128194
Worse than clippers, they are literal clipwatchers.

not even top 10 and we already closing 300k wtf

LETS GO AME

Gura Calli King this low wew

>>16129936
yeah she released her new original song, that has that effect

>330k views/week isn't enough to get into top 10
What the fuck

Niji Mahjong yesterday both had 1M and 1.1M over a period of more than 4 hours and 40 minutes. Both were around 42k in CCV.

However, Towa's Marika gets 1.5M CCV at 4 hours and 30 minutes. Highest CCV is at 38.5k.

If Niji's fanbase were to grow more recently, mahjong would've had more than 100k CCV. Towa's MarioKart is probably above 120k ccv at the least.

>>16130064

>>16130077
At least cover views are as healthy as ever.

>>16129262
Damn, I'm impressed, this is a very good replacement for the retired song ranking bro. Not quite as polished with transitions and special effects but he has all the important stuff down. This will do just fine and I'm sure the viewers will pick up too as they hear about it.

>>16130114
Yup >>16128242

>>16130077
Alot of new songs were released over last two weeks of December'

>phony 7

EN I kneel!

LOOK AT MY CUTE SHARK WIFE

5: Botan/Lamy 578k
4: Laplus 632k
3: Towa/Suisei 696k
2: HoloEN 829k
1: Gura 1.049m

Gura is too strong!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXh5XDR2rtA

10. Fubuki - Animal (350,296)
9. Mio - Animal (401,905)
8. Kiara and Ina - Iya Iya Iya (485,116)
7. Suisei - phony (486,628)
6. Lui - Love ka (514,255)
5. Botan and Lamy - Lion (578,978)
4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)
3. Towa and Suisei - Haiiro to Ao (696,826)
2. HoloEN - The Twelve Days of Christmas (829,105)
1. Gura - Target For Love (1,049,123)

HoloEN's Ochame Kinou should be next week and take #1 spot. Also Jesas 350k minimum for top ten.

>#1 isn't HoloEN Ochame kinou
>It's going to be 3-4 mil by next week
Oh boy...

>Gura alone filled with geurilla and shill debuff mogs everyone
wtf

>>16130315
I kneel!

>>16130336
>4. Laplus - Kamippoi (632,693)
>4: Laplus 632k
Jesus Christ. Is this gonna become the most popular cover of that song?

>>16130315
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa not the shitty art with the shitty floating left eye

Blue Archive got their money's worth by getting Gura to shill their song.

>>16130336
Thank you for this dude for taking over. It felt so good to detach from the numbers apocalypse happening and enjoy some truly big numbers again.

Laplus I KNEEL
Gura I KNEEL

>>16130387
Yes. The second place is Lauren with 4.1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r66UzB0WuGo

btw, roboco made it, took her 6 hours

Are anons pretending to be surprised? It's fucking Gura what else did you expect
She could reupload Reflect played in rewind and get that shit to 1 mil in 3 days

>>16130387
It's already the most popular cover of it by a wide margin.