/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Irys is not hololive you absolute dumb retard

>>16091911
Did you, per chance, have a stroke when typing that, or are you legally mentally handicapped?

>>16091605
Can we get an insider leak to confirm whether Irys actually chose redjuice as an artist? If she did then she only has herself to blame. Otherwise it's just another example of sasuga cobaa.

>>16095863
I think just like everything else from her producer to her lyricist, her papa isn't by choice as well.

>>16091605
If you take Cover's explanation at face value, something wasn't up to Irys's standards at the end, and they agreed to delay her reveal to get it fixed or changed.

>>16095863
Are you misinformed?
Holo Chuubas NEVER choose artists. Often the designs are finished before the auditions. All gen 3 auditioned for the finished designs.
Gura said that she auditioned without knowing the design and she was only allowed to suggest tiny changes to the design. She wanted and ahoge and teeth. They said no to the ahoge, but gave her teeth.

Who cares about irys?

>>16092030
He thinks vsingers are INNK.

>>16096263
Iofi alone proves your retarded post wrong

>>16096263
>Are you misinformed?
There was a rrat about her choosing redjuice as an artist, so probably. >>16096113
I believe the explanation. I believe they fucked it up, she threw a fit, and now they're trying to improve it.

Jesus christ, I unironically don't see how this shit even happens. For a small company you'd think it'd be easy for everyone to be relatively well informed about things. I don't get the managerial logic behind the way they go about running things according to standards they know have caused avoidable failures in the past. It really makes me wonder if they're actively fucking with the EN branch with their Japanese passive aggressive ju jitsu tactics. Either way, it kind of seems like they don't want EN to exist...which begs the question of why they even made the branch in the first place then.

What are the chances the SHIN was assigned to IRyS

>>16091605
She gets the level of treatment that someone who isn't part of any main branch deserves. She's just a thrown in extra without a place or a purpose.

>>16097360
None, IRyS design would terrify him. He can only work on popsicle vtubers that he can animate by making them rock back and forth slightly.

>>16097360
Why would he. Irys' rigger is fine its the artstyle that is impossible to work with and it just doesnt look good no matter what in motion

>>16096263
Didn't Ina choose Kuroboshi as her papa?

>>16097360
I thought it was supposed to be rarie, but who knows what Cover's doing.
>>16097490
Literally a waste of potential that looks bad in public, at least in the west.

My new narrative is that after the CN debacle, there was increasing sentiment among the JP branch that EN was a mistake. They've followed through and kept to plans and commitments, but what they really want is to get out of the west and go back to being JP only. The new auditions may be a subtle effort at hiring Holostars EN in hopes of tanking the branch, potentially suffering a totally unintended final yab, and gracefully closing the branch down.

I wouldn't blame them. The west is a shitshow filled with zealous insects who blindly follow ideological programming, just like China. That whole Gura cancelation effort proved as much. Maybe it's time to embrace JP reps and just become Japanese.

IRyS should defect from the EN branch and join the JP branch. HoloEN management proves how incompetent they are. Myth's success was due to their talent and not because HoloEN management marketed them well.

>>16091605
>Redjuice still shat the bed and hasn't delivered a good design for IRyS.
Give him time, he has to learn about things like watermelon and fried chicken before he can design Irys an outfit

>>16096263
Ina claimed in a zatsudan that she could have designed her own avatar, but after being told Kuroboshi was the artist she went with it.

I think there is definitely a two-stage process, the girls that are scouted (or nepotism hired) have a far greater influence on their own designs, meanwhile those who get in via auditions have to take what they're given.

>>16096954
>Either way, it kind of seems like they don't want EN to exist...which begs the question of why they even made the branch in the first place then.
"company" as marketing dep. may want it to exist, because money, but coworkers may hate it and always throw a little sand into the cogs. Company is not one person with a coherent plan, but multiple people collaborating

>>16098014
source that.
>>16097838
It doesn't help that her avatar is super low resolution and quality, compared to other holos.

>>16098171
Take your meds, it's the opposite

>>16095863
>>16096263
>>16098014
It's more complex than that. Company makes the final call, and usually has basic designs/concepts already in the works before the talents are hired, but the talents do get a lot of say in suggesting who to work with (emphasis on 'suggestion'), who gets what, and the details of the final design and implementation.
Before Gen 3 it was pretty much 'here's the designs, pick which one you want'. 3rd gen is when the talents started getting more say in things; some of them just took characters/designs that were already finished, others (Pekora for sure, and at least one other but I don't remember who) had a fair amount of input in their character. Everyone afterward has been more involved in the character design process.

>>16097490
Her purpose is to be a vsinger. Which is what she is doing. If anything if she did only the job is supposed to do she would be more like Azki that literally never streams

What was the point of that sticky thread again?

>>16098388
I think Ina is an exception, considering she's a full professional artist who (like her papa) has also been commissioned for character designs for gacha games. If she wasn't hired as a Holo talent, she could have just as easily qualified to be one of their talent's model artists.

>>16099169
To not have 20 holo global threads, all at max post limit in the catalog.

I just >hope they fix her cardboard hair. it was pretty jarring in the Ochame Kinou video.

>>16098398
This seems the most likely. Administrative and investor class want the money, but the rank and file paper pushers may not be too fond of the EN branch.
>>16098950
That only applies to JP, where the talents are in direct communication with the home branch and artists. I'd imagine EN has to deal with middlemen.
>>16098535
Implying you speak for every single Japanese person working at Cover. I'm assuming that's where everything has to go through, unless you're implying the EN branch is completely autonomous and handles everything from artists, designs, riggers and every other aspect of designing a vtuber avatar themselves. Is that the case?

>>16099169
to contain the braindead posts emanating from the debuts

>>16099222
*correcting myself, she was commissioned fort artwork/designs for a Light Novel series that's being adapted to an anime, not a gacha game. She has been commissioned for artwork for gachas though.

>>16098171
>willingly dropping the #1 vtuber in the world
Imagine actually believing this

>>16099543
stop replying to chinks

>>16099495
She did design characters for gacha games.

>>16098335
Pretty lazy joke. We aren't in the 90s anymore, and that particular stereotype has been beaten into the ground.

>>16099434
If containing braindead posts were possible we wouldn't have 90% of the threads we do on this board.

>>16098335
Redjuice as a artist is fine. Irys is the only one he shit the bed with

>>16099973
He's good for concept art and designs. But certainly not good for designing a vtuber.

>>16098171
They definitely should get rid of the EN branch but the way to do that is just break it off into an actual separate entity like Holostars where it's under Cover but has no direct ties to Hololive proper.

>>16091605
Irys ia best girl but is treated like a second class citizen by cover like an afterthought

>>16099973
He's terrible, they all look the fucking same

>>16091605
I wonder how they would retcon IRyS design if they could. It's not a Flare scenario where all you need is a little touch-ups are barely anyone will notice, twitterfags would go into an uproar if IRyS's design was changed.

>>16099813
Okay, he has to learn about random violence, yelling "i can't breathe" whenever the popo near, looting, burning and DBZ

>>16099973
Irys looks fine, it's just when her L2D moves it looks pretty uncanny valley.

>>16100217
I doubt they would go into a rage over an simplified artstyle shift as long as you keep the overall outfit and hairstyle the same.

>>16100217
They can easily do that like they did with Azki multiple times

>>16100230
Sloghtly better, made me smile at least.

>>16098950
After the debut of Council, Subaru said that seeing Bea felt really nostalgic since she and her manager was narrowing down her character designer to be between Ui or Beas character designer. It seems like some talents in gen 2 also had some say in their design.

>>16100217
It'll be fine. Sana proved you can literally get away with anything, all Irys has to do is say "my design was too complicated to make more outfits out of so we had to change it".

>>16095863
If you look at her character lore and the fact that her songs and design are also based on said lore, it was all likely chosen by management (omega). Cover recently released two other scrapped designs and stated they wouldn't be used as they didn't find anyone to fit the design.

>>16091605
I will never understand why people hate Irys' design so much, it's literally one of the best. Once people pointed out I can now not unsee how weird she looks with certain movements or when you look too closely at certain things but literally all of them will always have that problem, obsessing over it with her specifically just doesn't make sense to me. Also, people cry too much about her getting shafted as if she wants to be part of a generation. She wants to be a vsinger, there are multiple examples of her in the JP branch and nobody has to cry about them being solo. She is no different and she's legitimately separated from the rest of EN anyway by actually being Japanese in Japan. If you just switched her channel name from including EN to JP, suddenly all the complaints about her go away and nothing about the content changes (or at worst it improves).

>>16100668
Music directors have 0 influence on who gets chosen as a artist for design

>>16099543
They willingly dropped the #1 EARNING vtuber in the world

>>16100787
Omega is more than just a music producer you dumbass, he's literally EN management.

>>16099495
>she was commissioned fort artwork/designs for a Light Novel series
>spend time trying to look her up because I completely forget her roommate's identity
>realize I forgot Katina Tarask's theme is insanely accurate Ina doxx
Realtalk senpaitachi. Did someone choose an octopus themed character for Ina based on a Super Robot Taisen character's theme? Because I don't know how else to explain it. To this day, that's the one schizo narrative I'm most interested in, just because of how hilariously based that'd be.
>>16100722
First off, that's a cope. Second, the criticisms would get worse because how could Hololive JP fuck up so badly AGAIN as if they learned nothing from Azki. At least being in EN gives Cover the excuse "foreign black sheep branch, understanding please."

>>16100965
Buddy are you ok? Did you hit your head too many times as a kid?
https://twitter.com/Fra_BGV/status/1464077519380905984
Looks guys boogey vox is the holox manager!

>>16100468
Huh, that's interesting, good to know.
Point is the whole thing is a balance, the company has the final say and decision but talents definitely have some input, the standard of which has increased over time.

>>16101278
How dumb are you? Almost every member of Myth has acknowledged omega as management. He's listed as producer on IRyS debut preview MV, and that's it. He doesn't even retweet or promote her music. He likely just wanted some credit and insterted himself in there like he did at Councils debut.

>>16101742
Damn you really are a clinically diagnosed retard. I'm really sorry that just being alive is a struggle.

>>16101278
>boogey voX is the holoX manager
neat
>>16101403
Seems like that's only for JP and possibly ID, with EN (Ina aside) getting designs stapled onto them.

Not sure if Sana had a say or not. On one hand I can believe she would choose a brownish 90s looking character and have the poor design sense needed to request touchups to.make it sexy. On the other hand, it could've just be foisted onto her and that'd explain why she doesn't give a fuck about Hololive.

>>16101803
calm down anon, hes just kid and never work in a company before

he think being a manager hold a lot of authority

>>16101803
So you're just ignoring Holos acknowledging omega as management in favor of the voices in your head?

>>16101946
You know Kiara has literally made fun of omega for pushing the lore shit and wanting to limit what the Holos themselves can say about their character? Kind of seems like he has some hand in that side of it based on what's been said about him.

>>16101930
To be fair, we (as in those of us who aren't affiliated with Hololive, myself included) have no idea what their structure or chain of command is. It's all just deduction and guesswork.

>>16101930
>>16102056
Omega himself said he's the producer of HoloEN and that he was the first person in HoloEN. Not manager, a producer. He likely takes care of development of the English branch.

>>16099973
i mean if by "fine" you mean he only knows how to do pose and colors, yeah he's fine, but everything else is terrible, is not even like raita where his artstyle triggers people, is just plain bad

>>16102257
No him saying that and the other Holos recognizing him as such is not proof! He's credited on one IRyS MV, therefore thats all he does!

>>16102357
Check the bottom right of that image anon. That was before he even worked on guilty crown

>>16102450
and? are you implying he changed or got better at anything post that? it's still the same garbage

>>16101861
Sana is a huge fan of and 'chose' her papa same way Ina 'chose' Kuroboshi. Other EN members have absolutely talked about having input into their characters and designs.

>>16102257
so hes the one in charge of scouting EN talent, and oversees what the talent can and cant do.

basically calling the shots for EN branch

WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tNaIr-lks3c

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GKrM941NN-U

>>16103171
Yeah, I thought as much. Sana seems like the type to overlook the problems with her characters aesthetics instead of meticulously nitpicking over its mocha sex appeal.

>>16102257
Music directors dont take care of development

>>16096954

>>16103520
Threatening people is bad optics, Hololive, and I think your optics are bad enough right now.

>>16103495
He's not a music director

>>16103688
Is Boogey vox the manager of gen6? >>16101278
Because they have the exact same job.

>>16099044
Vsinger is an absolute meaningless title, if not an active detriment at this point. How is anything she does different from, say, someone like Mori? Only Mori actually writes a lot of her own shit so that makes her even more of a """vsinger""" as far as I'm concerned.

>>16103799
He's literally listed on one fucking video, are you really just gonna ignore the fact that the NE girls themselves refer to him as upper EN management? You should watch some streams instead of just making shit up. Also if you know how the entertainment industry works literally anyone can get a producer credit.

>>16103992
Yes I am because they never refer to him as a manager or anything related to management, I actually watch HoloEN streams.
Also please answer the question, is boogey vox the manager of gen6?

>>16103645
What

>>16104179
YOU HEARD ME

IF ANYTHING HAPPENS TO ME, MY DEAD MAN'S SWITCH WILL RELEASE THE YAGOO SEX TAPES

>>16104105
https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1429685301639671808

https://twitter.com/omegaalpha_en/status/1437250140746616835

>>16104387
Are you going to answer the question if boogey vox is the manager of gen6? Its a simple question.

>>16104455
It has nothing to do with omega you idiot. Anyone can get a producer credit, why is your head stuck in the sand?

>>16104455
We've already established that as far as /vt/ knows he is. Don't look a rrat in the mouth. Just take things in stride.

>>16103495
>>16103799
>music director
Except all the "directors" involved are already listed. And if he's involved in the actual music part why isnt he listed under the First EP Preview video like everyone else who worked on the actual song?

>>16091605
Irys doesn't deserve anything good.

>>16104370
No...

>>16105462
Because he's literally one of HoloEN management and likely oversaw IRyS' debut, which is why he was given a producer credit. But that dumbass has no idea what a producer credit means (hint it can be anyone who helped in even the slightest way).

>>16106096
Glad you agree with us that Boogey vox (who will be called BetaVox from now to fit alphaomega) is the manager of Gen6. I mean you literally just admitted to it being the case.
https://twitter.com/Fra_BGV/status/1464077519380905984

Is it autism? Or is it just trolling?

>>16106533
His mum forgot to give him his meds. Just leave him

Insane false equivalency in totally unrelated situations.

>thread about outfits
>schizos immediately derail it into omega and bogey schizoposting

>>16106682
>i-it doesnt count! it only does when trannyomega does it!
Compelling argument, keep spreading that rrat which is being fueled by voices in your head maybe one day you'll get someone to believe it. Until then I will be there to slay your rrat in every thread you post.

>>16106533
>>16106598
Go back to your discord, harlots. This is shitpost country, ya hear? We don't need no stinkin' undercover chubas snooping around our narrative compound. We grow our own organic rrats here, and we'll be damned if we let you confiscate them for foreign aid to 5ch. Those slanty eyed orientals can fend for themselves. They're farmers by lineage, so I'm sure they know how to grow some big ones. Heck, their rrats even looked quite plump and juicy during that whole compensated dating scandal that caused that there first generation holo to graduate. Ours may not be anything that special, but we're proud of them nonetheless.

>>16106888
You're legitimately mentally ill, no one give a fuck about boogey vox. The discussion was about IRyS design and artist which led to discussion about whether omega had a hand in choosing it. I don't know what your malfunction is in pushing this.

All the Troon Defense Force itt
Holobronies and their oshits really deserve the shit they get. Always shit on management. Simple as

>>16100045
This is the exact kind of brainrot that led to that "Mori should be branded vsinger" sentiment last year on bait threads.

>>16107715
Mori should graduate. She just wants to suck eceleb dick anyway.
>>16107561
I think the jury's already back on that one. >>16107565
>Always shit on management. Simple as
This guy gets it. When in doubt, blame management. Unless we have reason to believe the chuba fucked themself over, like Kiara wanting a Great Birdarang on the front of her kimono for reasons that are yet unclear given that she never cared about being a warrior prior to this, it's safe to assume the entire thing was the poorly thought put result of bureaucratic incompetence.