/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

General numberfag sites
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.ml/
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/CCfK7mVR

>>16070331
>>16070350
Great now there are two threads

>>16070376
I was busy looking for manga panels to use and ended up reading a whole ass chapter before posting after thread was archived kek

So, Predictions for Costume Reveals? Since it's a relay,

Kiara - 8k
Ina - 11k
Gura - 25k
Ame - 20k
Mori - 22k

I decided to look closer at the 2020 cull data. The cull disproportionately affected HoloEN, all five of HoloEN were in the top 20 of the most affected. The idea that it didn't hurt JP is asinine though.

>>16070885
Sorry, I inputted Amelia's data wrong.

Hmmmmm

>>16070479
Gura will get more than 100k.

So, yesterday-ish, someone commented on the HoloEN girls not using the twitter tags on events and someone else commented on "they are also not in english so it's hard for the fans", and this was one of the first things Kiara has said

Are numbers back to normal or at least stable, now?

>>16080114
room numbers still not recovered

>>16080321
Just passed them

>Less popular HoloEn member
>First in the relay
>Shit hour for both the Japanese and the USA audience.
>Days after New years is relevant.
>Still beats Lui reveal and almost beats La+.
I rest my case.

>>16080802
still half

>>16081160
Ask Gen 6 members about it.

final graph

>>16080802
>Less popular HoloEn member
Sana

>>16081945
I forgot about her

huh
so, pretty sure this means non-flagged users transition without problems to other streams, something similar happened with the niji mahong

Ina room passed

>>16081913
>>16083635
they are both at least 60k

>>16084736
pretty sure, yeah, previous one was

>>16084736
nah, Kiara is 30k, Ina is 40~45k

Gura 20k room

>>16085841
nvm

37k waiting on gura

Ina final graph

Kek it went from 43k WATCHING to 17k watching within 1st 30 secs.

Holy shit susan that cull

>45k waiting
>15 watching once live

That waiting room... Gura is still Gura

Not looking good, Ina recovered the room on 10 minutes

Sure susan, no one is tabbing in to see the actual reveal

She wont reach waiting room numbers

>>16088484
You will have to kneel very soon.

Welp, passed niji poker and niji mahong already, currently the most viewed stream of the year

>>16088782
lol what? No it's not.

50k get

>>16089301

>>16089545
Pekora 59k. lmao.

50k

>>16089910
dyrbi?

The only thing more incompetent than Susan are the meidos not banning the obvious Amazon shills in these threads

Gura final graph

>>16091091
WTF IT'S PERFECT

I have this theory that for smaller streams, the cull is percentage wise smaller than for middle sized streams and it is also smaller for higher streams

like a bell curve. Source? Dunno it just seems that way when I watch the numbers and compare it to what it used to be

Kiara- 21k
Ina- 31k
Gura- 51k
The others have got to be over Ina but will likely not be over Gura.

Niji...lost .....

>>16091240
the cull is percentage wise smaller for smaller streams*

>>16091091
Susan's TROLLING!

extremely sus

>>16091771
That drops almost exactly the same WTF. I wonder if it will mimic the rise exactly as well.

>>16077074
kek

>>16091771
Double nike logo in one stream wtf?

Only peaked 32k for Ame and was close to 33k. She really rushed the face reveal and didn't tease it as long as the others. Would've hit 34k if she didn't do that.

idk man, this graphs are kinda fishy

How does yagoo's anal juice taste today numberfags?

mori drop from 30k to 12k

Selen...

Recovered

passed Ame and Ina

>>16091771
Maybe its a scheduled thing YouTube runs; practically right at the 30 min mark.

38k for Mori. Was just short of 39k.

The most watched streams on Youtube are right leaning/Japanese stuff that the SJWs and the left hate in general
So Youtube fucks up CCVs to hinder them

Am I wrong? Actually makes sense considering they hidden the Dislikes recently to obviously hide that nobody likes their shit propaganda

So... Holo gold for today right bros? Thank you Hololive EN!

>gura vod 105k
uh...chumkeks?

>>16099063
3.57 is a more accurate estimate if you assume 10 minutes of average watch time.

>>16070350

>>16070331
>>16070331
>>16070331
actual previous

Looks like Masterchef sent a DMCA now after Pokimane got sent a DMCA by Viacom.
Beginning of the end for twitch react meta?

>>16099001
>golds
>mattering
lol
lele

Also when are the mahjong finals? Is Nijisanji pozzed enough to get bellow 50k for the finals?

How fast is Gura's chat today? Her chat room seems busted at my end while watching the vod, but other Myth's are still normal to me.

>>16099360
They can still react to youtube videos.

>>16099444
For now.

Reminder thay NijiEN still didn't have their outfits 8 months after their first debut. Council already has one now. They should've had faster outfit rate the same as JP. Is it because their mamas are outside artists and not in house one?

JWU. Did Myth get better numbers than Holox outfits or nah?

>>16099498
yes

>>16099498
>>16099554
here is the charts

>>16099360
to who?

Someone have a list of SC's for the outfit reveal?

>>16099686
Hololyzer

>>16099440
Easy 100k stream with no cull. Fucking damn shame we missed out on another 100k stream. If you look at the 100k list there really isn't a ton of 100k streams and we just got robbed of one.

>>16099554
>>16099649
The vod views would be interesting

>>16099686
Kiara : 602,451 ¥
Mori : 591,570 ¥
Gura : 225,631 ¥
Ame : 219,991 ¥
Ina : 183,454 ¥
Surprisingly Kiara beat Money Mori despite Mori performing a remix of OWTH

The SC numbers were pretty trash though compared to holox+nene

>>16099880
>lowest ccv
>highest SC
????

>https://twitter.com/TeamYouTube/status/1479778679534333957

>Youtube finally working on a fix.

>>16099838
Wait for the Myth 3D and we will be robbed more from that.

>>16100053
she panders to her gachi and runs it like a cult because she is an experienced woman

>>16100058
>believing PR speak

>>16100058
IS IT FINALLY HABBENING

>>16100053
Kiara SC games is pretty fucking good, albeit she usually get lower SC than Mori

>>16100058
DYRBI?

>>16100058
Fuck. You got me thinking it was an official Tweet instead of another bot automated reply

>>16100104
Kiara somehow has the reputation of a struggle midget while also having 1M+ in superchats in a little over a year. She does okay by Holo standards but get some of that saviorfag energy at the same time.

>>16100058
Literally just "Thanks for the feedback lol". Means jackshit. What a godawful site.

>>16100240
The bot is now saying they'll fix something.

>>16100152
>>16100205
>>16100240
>>16100317
They have been saying that it was intended until recently. At least this is some sort of new response

>>16099838
This 100%

In the age of the cull its going to take something truly special to ever see 100k again. I'm thinking Gura's 3D debut will hit it but other than that I can only see major graduations hitting it in the age of the cull.

>>16100058
I dont trust those fuckers

>>16100310
As KFP, the one thing I wish she could overcome is her own insecurities and self doubt. Literally all that's holding her back. Makes me want to shake her silly some days

Niji's Mahjong vs Hololive's Box Pushing + Gura's Outfit. Who is going to win the gold today?

>>16099880
>>16100053
>>16100192
Updated.

>>16100407
Didn't the Japanese one say they were working on a few since 1/5?

>>16100407
Specifically they've gone from
>working as intended, it's just spam being filtered out
to
>we've told the relevant team
to now
>we're working on it
Of course they said the exact same sequence of things in 2020 and that remained unchanged

>>16100498
I think Mahjong should win but with the state of youtube who knows.

They won't do anything about it unless it starts affecting normie streamers like Ludwig, DrDisrespect, TimTatman, etc. It's probably even something intended to make them look better in comparison to vtube incels.

>>16099880
>>16100192
Mori's already got about $24k this month without including this stream
Deadbeat's wallets are almost empty

>>16100498
even holofags don't want to claim gold in this shitfest lol

>>16100058
Susan will not fool me

>>16100498
whatever makes you happy anon
theses numbers are bullshit

>>16100442
>>16099838
>we just got robbed of one
eh thats more than one.we missed
Definitely 100k+: gura outfit, holo nye, pekora metronome cup
Possible 100k+: towa marika, chloe outfit reveal
Maybe 100k+: iroha outfit reveal, iroha outfit reveal, mori outfit reveal

>>16100558
Why is Guras thumbnail so weird compared to the others

wait...
did Coco graduation was culled?

>>16101016
Guras is weird compared to the others, and a bit autistic

>>16101016
Have you watched Gura at all, lol. She is a bit of an eccentric weirdo.

>>16100058
>from 1.14m waiting to 80k live viewers

jesas, asus must be pissed

>>16101059
every stream was culled, hard to say by how much

>>16100762
akua...

>>16101175
oh so that's the Asus stream people were talking about

>>16101289
i used to rule the world....

>>16100558
Now show holox and nene's SCs

>>16100558
why are en viewers so stingy

>>16101175
>>16101347
>114k vod views final
either those were ACTUALLY bots
or youtube queues were so fucking shit it they dropped most views

>>16101516
culture. maybe in 10 years, en viewers will catch up to jp

>>16100558
>EN makes in a costume reveal what Chloe does in a normal stream
This is what happens when you repulse your gachikois

EN really is the new powerhouse until this cull gets fixed

>>16101175
No fucking way a stupid CES presentation got 1.14m waiting. 100% bots or inspect element.

>WELLLLLL ANONSSSSSSSSSS!?
Numberfags won't get the right count on this!

>>16101888
It was mentioned in the chat so it's not an edit

>>16101885
By EN you mean Gura right?

>>16101907
kiara didn't get her hands culled

>>16099360
>>16099659
https://dotesports.com/streaming/news/hasan-says-master-chef-meta-is-over-after-receiving-dmca-takedown

>>16101885
Weird way to spell Gura..

>>16101696
Cope, Myth just mogged holoX in outfit reveals

>>16101885
Gura always was the Hololive powerhouse, she's just been culled since 2020.

>>16101907
WAIT...
that ilegal

>>16101945
Look at the Mario Kart tournament number again bros

Its over bro's youtube isnt gonna get fixed.Miko is already thinking about switching to twitch

>>16101907
>1 of 6 fingers is a bot
i know it

Is this Gura's fastest chat speed ever recorded?

Hey susan, where yo boy ludwig and that whore valkyrae?? Nerf and capping ppl and you still lose.

>>16102684
probably, yes
I think Pego had another prettry fast

this shit aint getting room rumao

>>16100596
Did they even say there is something wrong in 2020? I believe Youtube said that happened is feature from beginning unlike now

>>16102684
Hololyzer has chat speed ranking. Gura Mori King cover had slightly higher speed at 21.65 messages/s.

Current streams.

>>16102984
The tweets are floating around somewhere, and I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure they said "we're looking into it" and then "Oh, this is intended".

>>16102984
yes, they never admitted to "sending this to a specialized group" in 2020, they just went from
>we are looking into it
to
>yeah, working as intended
in this one they are acknowledging it

>>16102226
Here you faggot. The relevant image, because guess what, IMAGEBOARD!
DMCA sent to Hasan over Master Chef.
Is the react meta over on Twitch? Probably not, not until someone gets legit actual sued or Twitch does over this nonsense.

>>16100053
KFP is a cult. Allegedly this is true for the other Holobirds, but Kiara’s the only one that gets to punch above her weight in SCs (relative to her genmates) as a result.

>>16103101
This is f up. Pomu....

>>16102684
How fast was her birthday stream's chat?

>>16103101
>putting this shit on kiaras channel
EN just doesnt get it, you cant saviorfag underperforming holos by putting bigger names on their channel. you need them to show up on the heavy hitters' channel so people get interested in them
theyve tried this shit with sana too, it does not work. JP has always put numbers streams on the bigger channel for one-offs, or if it's a series of collabs they start with the bigger channel

>>16103078
here it is

>>16103259
I feel it's more like a warning

This was a 80k stream I think.

>>16103415
you have to pick for each member individually it seems

>>16102984
The Japanese twitter support said they were aware it was a problem and then the English twitter said it was intentional.

>>16103428
It's definitely at the level of 'warning'. This is them getting off very, very lightly, but if some of the idiots insist on pushing boundaries, things WILL get ugly now that the knives have been shown to be sharp.

>>16103596
it's less than 30 minutes, views are not comparable

>>16101945
Mario Kart

Towa 37.5k
Gura 26.7k
Ina 16.1k
Mori 14.9k
Suisei 14.5k
Marine 13k
IRyS 10.6k
Pekora 9.9k
Aqua 9.2k
Baelz 8.4k
Subaru 7.8k

>>16103428
Twtich streamers aren't taking it serious.
Twitch's history of just giving a 48hr slap on the wrist made their top streamers feel like they're invincible.
They're just going to move on to a new show.

>>16103338
isnt the bigger deal Selen? Isnt 1k Pomu´s average? But Selen usually gets 3-4k

>>16103681
Stage 2 EN vs stage 4 JP

Sorry I'm not extrapolating post Christmas numbers as if they matter.

>>16103101
I was about to say 22k is pretty good for a stream after CCVID but then I realized the waiting room was 27k...

It's actually not going to reach it at this rate.
This is probably a 40k+ stream.

>>16103740
3-4k is apex. 2-3k is what Selen normally gets for most games, so she's gone from ~30% cull to probably 50%, stage 1->2
Soon even SHE will end up with Nikes and eventually....Ls.

>>16103681
Of course towa is better than gura, who would have known

>>16103740
Selen got 2k on the last stream of the same game

>>16103836
Yea, 40-50% cull RN in effect, 40-50k would be in line for a full-myth collab after reveals.

>>16103740
Pomu only got 200 more viewers than her waiting room. She was culled harder than any of the outfit streams.

>>16103395
It's on Kiara's because she's the one who organized it

>looking at these graphs

while ens get more ccv than jps at this moment of ccvid arc, their vod views take way longer to grow/stabilize than the jps. No idea why.

>>16103101
>Another collab on Kiara's channel
Why do they keep doing this. Numbers poison.

what is the report out of all the holo twitch streams today?

>>16102684
How can such a simple site be so heavy to load? My laptop is suffering to open more than 2 tabs

>>16103259
Oh hey, Nene Sneeze made it to the first page of livestreamfails
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/rzb3md/nene_sneeze/

Guess some people were tired of all the DMCA dumbshit.

Why are you guys so butthurt about the react meta? Literally who cares? It has no impact on Vtubers streaming on Twitch, and it won't do anything to the website itself. The most it can do is get some asholes in trouble. Amazon has 70 billion dollars in reserves, more than Disney. If they get sued, they will just settle and that's gonna be that. A new content ID system might come, but it literally has no bearing on VTubers, since they already ask permissions for everything.

>they're getting to the L stage
Yesss, finally

>>16104083
that's probably explained because EN viewers keep watching the VOD because different timezones after the stream ends, meanwhile, JP stops after 25 PM and they have time to catch up without accumulating views to process

>>16103998
>ME ME ME

>>16104279
Sorry Kiara, it's terminal...

>>16104307
We should only compare VOD views 3 hours after the stream ends to make it fair for JPs. I don't care if some SEAnigger didn't get to watch holoEN on that day.

>>16104244
It's partially cope - talking about some different bs to take minds off of The Culling™

But, in a weird way it might, because some anons were talking about the possibility of moving to Twitch for some/all livestreams and posting the vods on YT.
Can't really do that if the fucking site gets sued into the ground because of these morons.

>>16104137
Migo got 9.4K to 10K peak in that watchalong. That's twice than Korone's stream in the same time.

Nene got 2-2.5K, more than her previous streams

I honestly don’t think this will be fixed
How would they even fix it at this point?

>>16104244
it has an impact, but not big
>there are a lot of react vtubers on twitch
>viewers were used to react streamers and they will have to settle back to "original content" and "games"
pretty sure it will devolve to talk streams

>>16104457
git revert and redeploy?

Holo will never see 100k stream again huh..

>>16104239
I feel LSF already tired with react meta drama

>>16104457
putting a REAL engineer on the work, not shitty uni graduates that won coding competitions
they must have the full statistics and they HAVE TO do something if they want their platform to be competitive

Today's superchats

>>16104418
I'm of the same mind.
If there's going to be another site that's able to be a bit more 'loose' with the rules, I'd rather they NOT cause the entire ecosystem to get razed to the ground because the chucklefucks at the top were too goddamn lazy to actually MAKE CONTENT, resulting in an even worse version of content-ID to get implemented.

>>16104671
Uninspiring numbers for EN superchats outside of Mori doing decently. But I think that could be chalked up to too short an interval since the last outfit (and for Ame, since her birthday stream as well).

>>16102424
She's second

>>16104523
What if you trained your anti-spam bot on the flawed dataset? Can't really revert that, need to basically train the bot again, which might take month. Also, the data might not be that easy to get. They might actually need to generate it themselves, hire some Korean k-pop stans and what not.

>>16104244
Google lost a court case over the same thing, and only got away with it because they successfully argued there were too many videos for them to police and promised to implement what became Content ID and the three strikes system
Twitch on the other hand obviously knows it's happening, and the 'punishment' they hand out is a joke, so if anyone goes after them they'll have to change things

>>16104457
yea i kinda agree, if it was really a bug they would just reset the system already, but they're not doing that. They are going to try to add even more pajeet spaghetti to their code to try to compensate the errors. Its gonna keep being shit and even gonna find new ways to misbehave

>>16104754
pretty sure "today" is "yesterday", so new outfits are not here

>>16104757
Who is first though? Definitely not Pakora lol

>>16104457
code wise, the algo's behavior looks super simplistic.
Which means the fix would be really simple too, either set in some exceptions and max counters or, just write a better "if" to begin with.

The main problem looks to be that YT doesn't want to admit the mistake to begin with, so it might be stuck in manger debate hell. A bunch of clueless higher ups have several meetings about "what our next move will be".

>>16104764
One of their admins was caught reacting to one of their partnered streamers watching DMCA content.

>>16104457
Obvious solution: just stop filtering the CCV entirely, nobody else does this
Google solution: spend a month adding more parameters to their ML model and retraining it, inadvertently make it worse, throw hands up and declare it's working as intended

>>16104901
that's the other thing. its not just so noname burner twitch accounts doing it but their top streamers

>>16104859
>code wise, the algo's behavior looks super simplistic.
literally nobody can understand how it works, how is it looks simple?

>>16104840
46.101

>>16104964
this, should've been done a week ago. cryptoshithead that heads youtube gaming just doesn't give a fuck. it's obviously his temporary job until his nft get rich quick scheme works out.

>>16104834
The daily cutoff point is midnight GMT so it does include all the outfit streams, only issue is because they were so recent PB hasn't fully updated the total yet comparing it to Hololyzer, it'll get fixed for the weekly/monthly/all-time stats but the daily chart will be stuck like that unfortunately

>>16104671
Enfags are so poor

>>16104964
We have to pay creators on views so of course it has to be culled please understand

>>16105277
That's the thing.
THIS DOESN'T AFFECT PAYOUT.
Streamers get the true CCV and VOD a few days later.

>>16105248
>#1 Mori
>#2 Rushia

>>16105074
Because it is simplistic.

we don't know the triggers, but after the triggers it just flags accounts as spam so they count as 0 viewers.

The Dec 2020 one is harder to pin down though.

>>16104671
Sasaki got $16k when she won the Niji MK tournament and Okayu gets less than one of the EN homos? Why are onigirya so poor...

lol wtf
>worms collab ccv: 24k
>vod views so far: 22k
everything is broken on youtubes verification system

>>16104671
Oh yeah, Patra had an outfit reveal too.

Her poor ccv...

>>16105489
>Live streams
>can't count viewers live
Work as intended

>>16105613
new feature btw

>>16105489
Yep.
It's pants-on-head retarded. It definitely stinks of 'this was SUPPOSED to be a vanity project that acted as a capstone to my career before I moved on, but now I need to fix this mess because I didn't do due diligence'. Which would go a long way as to why they haven't just done a hard reset and and start from scratch, but any specific reasoning at this point is pure rrats, and I doubt Google/YT would ever release a statement wrt what went wrong.

>>16105529
Sasaki is a cute fatass while Okayu is buttugly

At least Shiki seems to be doing better than before the cull actually.
300+ viewers was rare in 2021

>>16104418
Those dumbass should be personally sued instead of twitch. I want to see them making apologies video and beg people to forgive them. This is one of the time I will support companies going after those dumbasses.

>>16105821
Meme game buff. I have no idea why holoEN or NijiEN haven't played that yet. It would be one of the most buff games ever.

I have an idea Susan
>Show a roughly processed CCV in real time
>Run the fancy and slow spam filter after the stream is over
>Update the analytics with the verified data
>Calculate the revenue

>>16105535
I noticed Gura's stream from yesterday took longer than usual to process too.

Was at ~120k after a few hours, but now it's at 287k, which looks more like it.

>>16105714
Don't care, I'd still fuck both until I broke the bed

Gura's kimono stream just reached her usual 300k threshold.

I know everyone is debuffed but this is sad looking for everyone

>>16105714
That's just wrong

>>16106313
T H E F U T U R E

holo should just move to twitch

>>16105942
Twitch will be fine as long as they remove the VOD/stream after receing a DMCA takedown and appliy a reasonable punishment to the user

>>16105611
Even if the cull wasn't in place her outfit reveals struggle to get half of what her ASMR does lol, it's a shame because I love her gaming and drinking streams but numberswise she's the biggest one-trick pony in vtubing

>>16106313
Nijisanji is getting pozzed now.

>>16106313
Lain.... oh Lain....

>>16106313
Literally 3views already.

This is just sad. They don't deserve this.

Even most tribalfags can agree to unite against Susan just this once.

If the react meta ends then youtube streamers have nowhere to go. The react meta is what make twitch attractive despite all the loopholes it has.
Wouldn't be surprised if Ludwig got some insight about a future react meta apocalypse and that's why he jumped to youtube...because Twitch will become like Youtube soon.
...there is Facebook gaming and small streaming plattaforms but they are not the same...nor big like Youtube or Twitch...maybe Facebook gaming on latam but that's it.

>>16104629
Gura's 3D debut is guaranteed 100k in the age of the cull. In the age before the cull it was a guaranteed 200k but those days are long behind us.

>>16106700
pretty sure the /#/ thread has been unity against Susan since we confirmed everyone was getting culled, the only shit stirrers are the vshoujo twitch niggers

>>16106780
the cull is literally getting worse and worse
Gura was shrugging the fucking thing off while losing like, 3k views per stream at first

>>16106860
It's the power of her having a lot of tourists who don't watch regularly. But still watch from time to time.

Not all of her 3.5m+ subs have been marked as bots yet, and those are what's keeping her safe. For a time.

>>16107029
zamn, she should experiment streaming for the "EU friends" again

>>16106705
>If the react meta ends then youtube streamers have nowhere to go
YouTube streamers are the most likely to survive or dominate Twitch, they are already used to the ContentID system and are more creative since they can't relay on watching copyrighted content

>>16106700
I would easily team up with Susan if it meant the death of Nijisanji. Nijiniggers will always be my #1 enemy no matter the situation.

>>16107315
kys faggot

>>16107315
Only big numbers matter. Susan is against big numbers. Susan is the number one enemy of /#/.

>>16107315
seethe harder

Jeez it take so long to break 25k.

>>16107315
This, nijiniggers don't deserve any good will.

>>16106313

>>16100462
I'm pretty sure that the chicken voice and her really poor game choices is what is holding her back.

>>16107470
What's the announcement about, KFPeasant

>>16107470
room was 27k, so never

>>16107315
why are holobronies like this

>>16107470
You guys made my million contract streamers look bad. Next december 80% cut.

>>16107607
Pretty sure it's her garbage personality and enormous, fragile ego that is holding her back.

>>16107830
I tried to masturbate to susan pics and I couldn't finish

>>16107733
HomostarsEN

Pato...

>>16107865
I easily fapped to her. She has taken control of the numbers thread and made us all her submissive little pigs. I'm really into femdom and Susan is basically pegging us right now. Really hot.

>2022
>Pokimane suspended
>popular twitch streamers deletes evidence of their crime all together
this is why they suck

>>16108276
Twitch doesn't delete the vods on their server, it's just hidden.

Either this Myth stream has good retention, or ghost and verified viewers are swapping each other out

Fucks sake, Roboco is doing another "x until" stream too early again.
She has 3k left till 800k and she failed almost every one i saw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvmcgzMghsg

2.2k people on are "listening" to Chocosen on Twitter after she fell asleep and I'm supposed to believe she can't get that many people to watch her on Youtube?

>>16108204
There is always that 1 anon who can take any unappealing situation and find a hot take to it.

>>16108433
eh? she has completed almost all the ones she has done

>>16108682
I wish Chocosen could be an occasional 15k vtuber.
This type of "stream" would get a lot more if she were still popular.
But she got shut down so many times... maybe on twitch she can set loose again.

full en orig song in 26 mins

>Full EN original song that ISN'T a meme
Predict time to 1 mil (It's on the HoloEN channel)

Well time to see how fast a Myth orisong goes.

>>16109253
Same producer as the halloween song.
MV by Mori.

>>16109253
O shit.
Mori you could've at least waited 2-3 weeks for HoloEN Ochame to rack up a couple more million views before overshadowing it lol

this graph is so fucked man

>>16109264
It being on the HoloEN channel, slow as balls

>>16109264
Shoulda been on Mori/Gura's channel to be a serious contender

>>16109381
pretty sure it will boost it instead, in fact, they should release more stuff on that channel to gain momentum

>>16109264
Less than two days, faster than ochame.

>>16109512
and delete country roads song, that's a debuff

>>16109445
Q is coming

Damn mori planning a lot of shit.

>Myth or treat
>12 days of christmas
>Ochame
>Journey
>Q
still no Mumei's...

>>16110417
and kronii's

>>16110417
>>16110464
mumei and kronii songs will release next week after the council outfits

trust

>>16110417
Council needs to announce something, they have NOTHING, Mori already had a full album released at this point

>>16110708
bae has her halloween cover, so at least it's something

Myth final graph

>>16110708
It shows the difference between a gen of motivated girls (Myth) vs a group of unmotivated girls (Council)

>>16110849
Failed to reach waiting room.
With a 27k waiting room, this was easily a 40k+ stream.

>>16110849
>Stage 2, couldn' even recover the waiting room
Soon all of myth will be facing Nike...
Also, that dip after the end of the first match is at least expected but oof every dip when the numbers are as bad as they are hurts.

>>16103259
are twitch people forced to be creative now?

>>16111129
No, they'll just go back to reacting to reddit or random youtube videos from people too small to sue them like before.

EN's Ochame got 2 mil in 7 days, isn't that really fast?

>>16105942
>Those dumbass should be personally sued instead of twitch.
Both should be sued desu, I would love to see those caviar socialists living in a 3 million dollars mansion being bankrupted over this.

>>16108433
It will be funny if she reach it with a less than 1k CCV.
Obviusly with take time but still
Also, the ones who failed were Haachama, Pekora, Azkii and Flare.

>>16111129
Ahahahahaha.
No.
Not until the hammer drops and someone faces some REAL consequences. They'll just cycle through shows and other people's content until the 'clique' finds something else and that show becomes the meta.

>>16110930
Council was a mistake.

>>16111028
it works like this
>all the "non bots" can enter the stream normally
>everyone else that is suspicious it's sent to a bucket that will be processed after the stream ends
>every movement from the viewers leaving/tabbing out/joining/etc is recorded from the "approved" viewers

>>16111249
Yes, it's the 4th fastest Holosong to 1 mil (originals + covers) and already passed the Gen 5 and HoloX ones in total views.

>>16111249
Yes, lol, its insanely fast.

>>16104671
Dafuq happened on Shu.
Has he fished stronger gachikois than the flip british and autistic daddy voice?

>>16111129
No, because they can literally just react to youtube videos.
Including hololive lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5eC56bnsA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4jB7gjZIIA&t=19s

>>16105507
>outfit reveal

>>16111361
Yes, I'm aware, it's more the mental aspect of it given the absolute state of YT.
>>16111249
Congratulations, you now remember that this thing is often referred to as the 'unofficial Hololive anthem', and the full JP version has sat at the top 10 Hololive covers chart for much of 2021 (rip Cover-ranking bro).

>>16111589
I feel this will be Gura content if she switch to Twitch or if Youtube wasn't very autistic with the DMCA.
That and Muse Dash with Osu.

VOD views
Gura 371k (50.9k / 3h ago)
Ina 216k (31.3k / 4h ago)
Mori 194k (38.8k / 2h ago)
Ame 188k (32.9k / 3h ago)
Kiara 171k (21.6k / 4h ago)

NUMBERS

>>16101945
I may be missing some numbers but weren't their outfit reveals today some of the biggest post cull individual streams?

Wow, after Gura's Reflect, Farhan is now the guy for Myth girls huh, he really strikes gold for this.

>>16111806
Only Gura at Mori.
The rest were mogged by the Orca and Guzaru.

A new premiere countdown that doesn't destroy your eardrums?

>>16111855
He also did Myth or Treat and all of Reine's songs.

>>16111909

Keep trying Reimu, you'll be there too any day now.

>>16111289
I remember seeing Roboco fail twice, but it wasn't among the recent ones.
Polka also didn't have time to finish for her 900k because she needed to prepare for the new year stream. She got it off stream.

>Flare?
Huh, i saw every one of Flares and don't remember her ever coming short. At least not recently.

>10 seconds countdown
Management hate

>12k were in waiting room for Miko ARK
>never breaks 7k
This shit is pissing me off. I know for a fact I’m not counted too which is bullshit.

>>16112158
It was 50 seconds.

>>16111508
he hit 100k, but yeah like 90% of his SC is in JPY, a lot of Mysta and Vox SC are seadog SCs. Will still be Vox that is the big supagetter in the wave over time though

Huh...Interested

wtf is going on with the audio?

>>16112390
What? I just refreshed, it shows 22k views, I don't know what the heck's wrong with your browser bro.

>>16111912
>and Mori.
orca mogged her too (she did 39~40k). my point (I'm not the anon who called them powerhouse) is not them being the strongest exactly but them as a hole being very strong and having some of the strongest solo streams post cull

>>16112008
>>16112012
>21k+ waiting room
>12k peak during premiere
At least we know even premieres are culled now lol

>>16112270
yeah, that was probably a 30k stream.

Speaking of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOKiTb5HBGE
Miko went from 12.5k waiting to 1.2k watching

>Getting worse every day!!

oh hey, this hit 2M

>>16112390
What?

>>16112654
It happens again right now...

>>16112408
I was too distracted by the kids bop mv mori made to notice any audio issues.

This song's fucking bad. No way it's outdoing Myth or Treat or Ochame Kinou, which were bangers

That MV was pretty bad quality for Mori. She's made way better stuff. What the fuck is with the font choice, and having the lyrics incredibly hard to read at some parts. Looks like it was a rush job when she had some shit to make for tophatman.

>>16112677
3 12 also hit 2 million earlier today.

>>16112408
Idk but the VOD doesn't have the same problem

>>16112617
We already knew anon

>16112980
Go back to your bait thread faggot

>>16111855
They need to skip him from now on. Another one-trick.

Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my 10ks... and my 20ks... even my 30ks... the viewers I've lost... won't stop hurting... it's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our numbers!

>>16112980
> Lofi remix of Your Mori
> Q (Original song)
> EP (RM)
Everything to be released this month

>>16112980
Numbers?
All we care is this song is getting to 1 mil in less than 48 hours.
Post that shit in /hlgg/

>>16107979
Oh. Sasuga Cover Corporation

https://twitter.com/airaniiofifteen/status/1480003331456069632

>>16113637
nta, it does affect replayability

>>16113780
>Youtube views are bugging?
>I never realized that cuz my usual view count is between 300-500 people
iofi kek

>>16113856
Reflect doesn't even have an MV lmao.

>>16113856
Pretty much. Every single beeg numbers song wasn't just beeg because it was sung by a popular holo/hols, but because it's also a banger.
This is why 12 days of Christmas ain't topping the charts but Ochame Kinou is one of the fastest growing Holo Songs.

>>16113780
>>16113924
kek

Speaking about songs, Towa already passed Kanata and Watame will pass Kanata pretty soon too.

>>16114218
I feel bad for sheep. The song is even about how she sucks at singing and doesn't get much success with it..and she isn't getting much success with the song
Her most successful songs are memes like the raps/lullaby + the one featuring Mori Calliope from Hololive English Myth

>>16113780

>>16106313
It's over bros... time to move to twitch

Europe...

>>16110417
>expecting council to do something
Anon...

>>16106313
migo...

>>16114485
It's not GHOST but My Song is her best performing song in a really long time.

>>16114218
Kanatan's animation is nice but short ver. is such a debuff for views, why would I rewatch that when I can go elsewhere to get the full song
>>16114485
Oh do fuck off, it's doing far better than any of her other songs at this point even though she's dumb at promoting herself and announced it in a random stream instead of her anniversary a week earlier

>>16111589
Fucking leech

>>16114729
Holy fucking shit man. Is there any others as brutal or worse than this one?

>>16112061
Jesus, she lost to every nijienmale and she like 2 months heads-up, that is just sad.

>>16114729
Why is Miko's waiting rooms so high? Maybe I'm mistaken but I feel like even streams from other holos that get more viewers are not close to being that high.

>>16114729
From Nike now it's already become Loser sign...

>>16114797
>short ver. is such a debuff for views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VK3pne8N4

>>16114485
Just like IRyS latest song am I right bros?

Stop bullying Reimu. You all know that she lurks this thread.

>>16114871
koyori's is bad and kronii recovered hers

>>16114729
god damn this is just fuck up

>>16113317
Meant for >>16112980

>>16114903
Miko is right behind Pekora in big CCV numbers.

>>16114903
She's theorized to be the 2nd choice for most holofans. Thus, her stream is likely in the background when their oshi is streaming.

>>16114729
It's still getting worse every day, my god.... even the top holos will be under 1k by the end of next week at this rate

>>16111855
Why cant EN fucking hired some named voca-p? Like who tf is this literal who even. With their brand power they can literally commisioned someone like Yunomi, Teddyloid, or Porter Robbinson ffs

>>16114964
No, that shit is REALLY doing bad numbers

>>16112408
YouTube premieres sometimes have their low quality AAC stream instead of the Opus stream. I have no idea why.

>>16115076
Embezzlement is expensive please andastd

>>16114871
I think the worst I've seen are from Iroha and Lamy

Streams over 2k so far (12:00 09.01.2020)

Gura 50,982
Mori 38,821
Ame 32,958
Ina 31,352
Kiara 27,060
Kira 21,671
*Kronii 5,057
*Miko 3,997
Ike 3,953
Mysta 3,139
Mashiro 2,970
*Koyori 2,212

*Ongoing

>>16114943
Full version on the topic channel has 4 million more views, thanks for proving my point

>>16115038
Sure but I'm talking wait room. There could be a Pekora stream that would reach 10k better CCV than that Miko stream posted, but her waiting room would be like 7k or so. I could say same for Marine and recent Fubuki streams as well.
>>16115051
So just a case of waiting room counting secondary tabs while actual stream doesn't? I guess that could be the case.

>>16115286
This, and the topic version released much later and got hidden a lot of times too

>>16115263
>Streams over 2k
Goddammit I don't even know what to say at this point

>>16103732
The problem for Twitch if they don't take it seriously is that they'll get Cox'd.

Cox got a $1B judgement against them because music labels successfully argued that they were not handling DMCA takedowns and repeat offenders in good faith, and should lose their safe harbor provisions.
I bet YouTube is pissed at Twitch for this because if a precedent is made here for livestreaming and video content, consequences will blow over into YouTube, too.

I think Target for Love might unironically be the only song that showcases Gura's great singing capabilities and that's fucking sad
Don't get me wrong, I liked Reflect, King and Myth or Treat but she outshines those in random karaokes

>>16114729
Migo said she was considering moving MC over to Twitch, right?

>>16115076
Farhan is cheaper and his work is already good enough. ID tends to be on the cheaper side and he'd greatly benefit from the clout he gets. If you buy his service for $5k, that's already two or 3 months work of a Doctor whereas if you buy the service of named producers, $5k wouldn't be enough. I wonder just how much did NijiEN spend for their songs and ads.

>>16115546
>lyrical
I'm an ESL, it was bad even for me

>>16114485
Sheep has similar problem to Irys: her stuff is a bit generic. Susan also hates her and never recommends her stuff. ShishiWata cooking is addictive like crack, and I need to manually search it every day, because it's never in my recommendations.
Watame needs to learn to shamelessly shill her stuff, there's definitely an audience for it, but it's not the type of music that goes viral on it's own.

>>16115546
It's kinda apparent when the mixing is good. Just look at Myth's latest song, mixing is so messy that the vocals are butchered.

>>16115505
Pokimane's ban is ending in a day lol. It's stupid that they'd rather take a few days ban. Even more so, how Amouranth keeps getting out Scot free.

>>16115263
>2k
At least use 5k as limit

>>16115286
Is it because the Topic one can be played on Youtube Music?

>>16115263
anon....

>>16114729
Stream on Twitch Miko, please, save the numbers. We need you.

>>16111994
>all of Reine's songs
>most cover mixed by Redshift
>her newest 2 orisongs produced by Y'uce
Farhan only mix her 1st orisong

>>16115749
>>16115505
She was already on VAlkyrae's baking stream.
The ban pretty much just means that she didn't have to bother setting up a co-stream herself
https://playboard.co/en/video/C14XDqjaPd0

Also, is it just me, or does it look like this stream got some viewers after Myth finished their streams. Peaked at 30.5k.

Thousand Years pass 100k under an hour

When holo does moves to twitch
We gonna include those number on daily tally?

>>16116069
It's still lagging in views anyways, unless every 1 in 3rd view "liked" the video.

>>16114729
Holy shit Migo almost became a 3view for a second there.

>>16116103
Yes, I wonder why we're not even adding them right now. Twitch numbers are much more reliable than YT's atm. But I get it if they don't want Vshojo in every list.

Since CCV is fucked, predictions for how long it'll take for Journey Like a Thousand Years to beat the other Holo Gen songs?

Gen 1: Plasmagic Seasons (2.1 mil): https://youtu.be/VCJTJX1kXe4
Gen 3: Interact Fantasy (1.4 mil): https://youtu.be/F61eDAXtmnw
Gen 4: Kiseki Knot (3.4 mil): https://youtu.be/k7cpjmkc1Rw
Gen 5: Blue Clapper (4.9 mil): https://youtu.be/CyqMKCYBTzM

>>16116243
> Twitch numbers are much more reliable
Unironically that's true
>they don't want Vshojo
Also true

>>16116384
Gen 2....

>>16116384
I want it to flop

>>16116384
>Interact Fantasia that low
The strongest generation...

>>16116535
that concert...

>>16116384
myth or treat already mogged all of the other full gen songs except for blue clapper which might take a while

>>16116384
Gen 6 (for obvious reasons). Gen 2 and Council are now the only ones without a branch/gen song.

>>16116384
Blue clapper is too strong

>>16116384
>Interact Fantasy (1.4 mil)
Imagine releasing this song instead of that bop ending song from the live...

>>16116243
twitch numbers weren't comparable even before the cull so since the only notable twitch vtubers was 3 of vshojo there's little reason to include them