/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Any holoJP can get 10k tonight?

>>16058251
The susanpocaplyse...

I can't believe Hololive has been viewbotting all this time.
JK I fucking knew it.

>>16058335
nijisanji, vspo, and others too
heck pewdiepie too

>>16058279
With Pekkers getiing 9K, I highly doubt it

Its time to change the OP
Views Are All That Matter Now
the age of the CCV is dead
we won VOD bros
http://virtual-youtuber.userlocal.jp/movies?date=2022-01-08

>>16058335
Honestly fucking hilarious. If they game the system and the system adapts it's on them.

2nd niji mahjong stream is behaving exactly like the first one, so it will probably tie it
at 42k
when last year it was a 94k

>>16058335
I thought you said you're done with this in previous thread dear ban evading mexican samefagging schizo anon ?

>>16058585
Stop giving him (You)s nigger.

>>16058494
Total VOD queen Pekora
Average VOD queen Ayame
I kneel to our new queens

>>16058566
That's pretty bad when you consider how much higher the waiting room was for this one. There is a non-zero chance the finals will peak lower than this.

So pekora goes from top female streamer to likely not even cracking the list this year and we're only a week in. This is gonna be a fun year if you have a menhera oshi, strap in fellas.

hololive isn't gonna make it... they are gonna play that debuff game ark again..but why now?

>>16058882
It's ACCELERATING.
We must go FASTER!

>>16058585
I just woke up you fucking schizo SEAmonkey.

Lumi dumping Youtube for good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyRzXn72OAc

Small companies are following the path of the indies, it is not a matter anymore of "if" but when Hololive will make its move.

>>16059057
Hololive and Niji are very entrenched into YT, and as long as Twitch in Japan is the way it is, don't expect either company go make the move anytime soon unless YT makes the current state of affairs permanent(nonzero chance).

Sorry Nijibros, you spent all of your social credit points on part 1. Your current balance only allows you 40k.

Please watch Ludvig and Pokimane to renew your credits

>>16059057
Smart move, gettig popular in Twitch is easier than Youtube. Atleast you don't have to compete with millions on Twitch.

Anyone else hype for the upcoming members only zatsudans from the various menhera girls of vtubing. Shit is gonna be popping off and girls are going to be clinging to their members more than ever.

>>16059326
Member's only streams would worsen the CCVID, I would suggest they'd rather do tourist friendlt streams from now on.

>>16059326
>Shit is gonna be popping off and girls are going to be clinging to their members more than ever.
>Which means it's only a matter of time for everyone to transition to GFE content.

>>16058946
best time to play debuff games, numbers are dead so why not get shit game out of the way when they wont do harm.

>>16059057
She gets the real numbers so what's the big deal?

>>16059326
>>16059357
But then you'll have the menhera attack when your members posts have no likes.

>>16059413
More than Holo or Niji, the smaller chubbas heavily rely on public CCV to advertise as 'hey I'm worth watching more than someone with literally 1digit viewership' to try and grow. With how fucked it is and how shiy YT has been with responding, if I was part of a small corpo or an indie, I'd consider moving to Twitch for livestreams and just do edited VODs on YT. Clippers and recommends are too strong for Hololive/Niji to consider moving yet, it'd need to get a LOY worse for both before they'd consider doing more streams on Twitch.

>>16059413
anon, if I were to decide that I would want to watch a 2 view I would unironically look at their ccv first since having a "stable" viewership means at least that the chuuba in question is at least competent

>>16059413
She doesn’t. Not for 48 hours, and likely never.

Live streamers make decisions with regards to the content they stream based on the audience they get (and the audience other similar steamers get), live.
Even if they were getting the correct in their analytics 2 days later that’s an eternity for the medium

>>16059212
>Pokimane
Didn’t she get banned? Kinda surprise they didn’t sue her ass for that.

>>16059579
That was Twitch moving on her since Viacom fucked Twitch in the ass once.
No doubt the anon meant VALK, since she's on YT while Pokimane is Twitch.

>>16059579
“Ban” on twitch must mean something different, like “stream gets cut” or something.

>>16059614
>No doubt the anon meant VALK
Yeah yeah, YouTube approved thot #21 or whatever

The second Hololive moves more to twitch you know the cabal of moderators would keep them off the front page.

>>16059579
>>16059628
She got suspended, back on Monday.

>>16059614
NTA but imma be honest here, i can't tell them apart

>>16059562
I have a rule, if streamer has less than 10 viewers I ain't watching. Seeing as we have reports of people having a responsive chat but zero views there are a lot of people in the 20-50 range that are sub 10.

>>16059413
This, Lumi can just show her real numbers to Bushiroad or Konami or Taco Bell and the like so it will be no biggie if randoms can't see a number.

>>16059842
Wasn’t this the reasoning to remove the dislike number?
>the channel owner can still see it

>>16059614
>Pokimane is Twitch
Pokemon permissions are on youtube anon

This going to be her buff game from now on.

ccv is really fucked up, some got hit harder than other, there is no way to compare anything with this
These 2 stream start about the same time and about same ccv 3.8k, but one has almost double more view than another

>>16059212
Sorry Nijibros. Your remark about “YouTube approved thot” was deemed insensitive and your social credit risk score was downgraded.
Please restart your ascent from waiting room numbers

>>16059842
>>16059413
Live CCV is vital for streamers. If it's getting nerfed you're fucked for growth and may even start reclining.

>>16060117
This exact conversation has played out before, and the exact same conclusions get reached: move your ass to Twitch as a small indie/corpo because YT live CCV is fucked anyways and Holo/Niji have a near hard-lock on recommends due to the power of clippers. Given this recent fucking with CCv, I'd argue that for those small ones? Move, and don't look back. I'm still not convinced it's the right move for Holo/Niji though.

>>16059057
>>16059286
Smart move for English Vtubers. English Vtubing is having a moment on twitch and can incline hard in the coming months. This CCV nerf will end up near fatal for youtube streaming and it will slowly go the route of Mixer.

>>16060193
A full move would be stupid.
The smare move would be start doing 1 stream a week on Twitch and uploading the VOD to youtube.

Haven't checked this thread for a the last few days, after a quick look I assume YT ain't gonna do shit?

>>16060266
I'd go full on twitch (with youtube uploads) if I were a small en vtuber. The fanbase will follow since they're dedicated and as a small vtuber you basically have no tourists.

>>16060193
You are very correct.
Nijisanji and Hololive don't absolutely depend on display numbers to denote quality, they have a brand name. Smaller entities don't really have that. Nijisanji and Hololive can show a body of work with successful colabs and sponsorships. You really think companies will be all that shy about collabing with hololive after the C99 success?

I do think that dipping your toes into twitch will be a good thing incase they do have to book it there. Laplus/Iroha/Lui were all twitch streamers too so it's not like they don't know how to use it. Pekora and Miko have already demonstrated that people will watch them there. Twitch JP seems to be very okay with Hololive since holo members get affiliate status just for making an account.

>>16060286
At least they haven't said "it's a feature" after saying they were looking for a fix like last time

>>16060286
they're still "looking into it" no timeline on fix but at least for now it sounds like they realized something is seriously wrong.
>>16057590

>>16060406
oh boy it's gonna be more than a month...
Q1 2022 it's fucked

>>16060520
Youtube gaming and livestreaming is basically run by monkeys. Their head is shilling crypto instead of doing his job. The twitch streamer acquisition would've been a good idea... if they had a functioning platform. They're going to be Mixer 2.0 at this rate.

>>16060520
They're probably desperately trying to figure out which part of their AI monstrosity is misbehaving. It's probably gaining sentience as we post.

>>16060606
What if it's planning to become a vtuber and decided to crush others before that?

>>16060049
Minecraft always been buff games for all?

>>16060606
>desperately
No, it's in the huge backlog of issues they have yet to fix

6+ mins to recover waiting room number in the first part, 16+ mins in the second. A ton of people got turned into bots in just a few hours. Note that 6+ mins is NOT normal at all for Niji events, they recover in 1-2 mins tops.

>>16060688
>Skynet is gonna be an anime girl
Who would have thought...

>>16060688
>for years normalfag thought vtubers were AIs because of Kizuna AI
>now youtube will truly become its very own AI vtuber, culling everyone in its way
sasuga

>>16060766
AAAAAACCCCCCCCEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLEEERRRATTTTEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

>>16060766
It's actually so funny seeing this shit just get worse and worse.

>>16060766
MORE
MORE DAMAGE TO THE VIEWS
CCV PLUMMET TO THE MAGMA CORE

>>16060766
When are we getting the ccvid vax?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXFe89FLXFs&ab_channel=FalseEyeD
/#/ you're dead unless you only want to count Twitch's metrics

>>16060845
Never, becuase that would require admitting that some 2-bit hack thought unleashing this monstrosity onto the userbase was a good idea, and then ALSO admitting that they need to do a hard rollback to properly fix this, not some ghastly layer of code on TOP of this shitstack to try and keep this retarded AI functioning.

>>16060606
>gaining sentience
it already has
also nice repeatin 60s anon

Is the real number over 10k?

>>16061109
No, becuase the SEAfujo haven't been flagged so Mysta and Vox (when they stream at this hour) are 'safe' as their userbase hasn't caught this horrid number-decimating flag yet.

you know it would be absolutely funny if all this number drama causes youtube to censor numbers like dislikes, causing investors to get scared and pull out, leading to a complete collapse to the platform

>>16061186
hiding numbers would make your literally who the same as drdisrespect

>>16061179
lol the numbers thread was saying literally the exact opposite a few days ago

10k waiting for miko

>>16061240
You can always link it, if it was not “the voices” in your head

Ark is going to be huge again???

>>16061291
You're just making shit up to match whatever theory you're trying to push in the moment. In this moment you want to minimize Vox's views, so you come up with a theory that SEA wasn't affected by the bug. Even though everyone before this point said the opposite.

>>16061319
she's not even gonna hit 8k after the waiting room

>>16061319
Huge pile of shit

>>16061319
It dropped to 2k from 12k watching...

>>16061319
miko was my fav ark streamer :)

>>16061319
Why is a new Ark arc starting? Did Aki Rose rent a new server herself since Coco owned the last one?

>>16061361
>Even though everyone before this point said the opposite.
Link it

I must say that I'm eternally grateful that Towa stopped playing Apex before Christmas. Imagine if VSPO actually caught the virus.

>>16061109
pre Dec 28 - present

>>16061279
Oh nyo, another sub 10k stream

>>16061408
>Imagine

>>16061417
Looks like a normal combination of debut buff wearing off + repeated Genshin spam

>>16061417
You can't tell if someone is culled just because they have lower than normal numbers.

>>16061436
This not even a Nike anymore

>>16061398
Same server, Coco gave it to Aki then Aki let Cover staff maintainced it until Flare used it 3 days ago.

Has anyone tried not having a waiting room? what do the graphs look like when that happens.

>>16061365
I'm not talking about the ccv number. Fuck that number, youtube suck. If this game is getting huge vod number will other follow? Let's get that new ark holo server ready!

Rushia mentioned the number bug directly and thinks that she was probably the first (holomember) to notice it at the end of the december

>>16061436
a perfect L jesas

>>16061361
Can you leave already stupid faggot

>>16061436
what the fuck is this shit?

>>16061465
Indeed. If you want to be sure, wait until their views graph looks like this >>16061436
That's a terminal case, but signs of it have shown up in some of the NijiEN gals already.

>>16061496
I'm worried that the JP girls have already tapped ARK. It could be interesting to see the EN girls learn the game and run around an ARK server fleeing dinosaurs.

Look at that chat scroll. Only 4k watching btw

>>16061515
did she say anything about contacting youtube?

>>16061407
This is an inordinate request for information. You want me to spend hours digging through the archive to find the posts I saw, and if I should successfully find them you will pick apart some minutia about them. This is a well known sophist debate strategy.

I took a brief scan around the archive, and I saw someone who sounds exactly like you saying they don't think SEA was culled, specifically because Vox was getting high views. In other words, it's probably you, or someone just like you, coming up with their own personal theory to minimize Vox's high viewer count

>>16061480
is artia house still there?

>>16061548
Fuck i miss holo ark dungeon raid. One of the best holomen collab ever.

>>16061408
Have you seen VSPO's numbers lately? Nose is on the brink of becoming a fucking 3view

You fags do ress add kiss that today’s niji mahjong is the qualifiers while tomorrow is the finals right?

>>16061570
No she didn't

>>16061546
Yeah. There are signs that show if someone's being culled. Don't get me wrong, it's entirely possible Vox is affected, this thing is spreading like wildfire but you can't just say he's got 1k less than last stream so it must be the cull, that's well within the normal variance you'd expect

>>16061436
STOP THE STEAL

>>16061607
>ress add kiss
we were comparing it to the qualifiers from last year you dummy

Patra...

>>16061436
thats what she gets for ripping of miko

>>16061579
>You want me to spend hours digging through the archive
You don’t know you can search by keyword? If “everyone before this point said” whatever the voices in your head are saying they did you would have no trouble finding it.

>>16061556
That chat is lagging asf.

>>16061408
but the vspo girls have also been culled

>>16061408
>Imagine if VSPO actually caught the virus
Bruh

I'm predicting 400k+ vod for miko.

>>16061702
That's a moderate case of ccvid

>>16061579
What? We know why they're getting high viewer count (and this is before the culling you schizos faggot) and that's because they've tapped a base of users that was UNDER-SERVED. Sea/JP are watching at this time. Some jokingly called this gen ManjiSeaJi for that reason.
The cull affecting them less because they have less viewership overlap with any other chubbas isn't something borne out of trying to diminish their numbers or anything, it's an observation of how this fuckery has been acting since it flags USER ACCOUNTS, and also appears to have some brain-dead association programming thrown in, which would explain why this thing is acting like some fucked up virus. It also explains why Kiara was able to dodge going down to 2k viewers, because she's recently been getting 'new' viewers from KR that haven't been flagged by this thing.

>>16061515
I just realized that this place probably the first place who noticed about that anomaly. Without this place, People just use that data for shitposting threads

This Miko stream sponsored by Nike

is roboco's CCVs having a stroke?

The totally unbiased and rational numbers thread

Hololive views are down:
>Totally not evidence of viewbotting, just unfair persecution of this incredible amazing company that you should watch.
Nijisanji views are down:
>It's natural decline, Nijisanji is a bad and evil company that you shouldn't watch and has been failing for a long time.

You people are ridiculous. You try to compile all this evidence that indies are losing views too because of the bug, but then you write off nijisanji's situation as "natural decline". It's completely biased propaganda.

>>16061814
stop doing this to miko
please
i can't take it anymore

>>16061836
You're either the schizo himself falseflagging or someone so retarded you took his 50th "I can confirm this is a natural recline" shitpost seriously and need to lurk more

>>16061836
who are you talking to lmao

>>16061816
Oh ew wtf? Apparently yes.
>>16061662
???
>That's what Miko gets for ripping off.....herself????

>>16061836
shit posting and bait
depending of the day numbers is bait central

>>16061836
>Let's take the obvious shitposter who's posted 5+ variations of 'decline' at face value because I can use it to own the numbers thread!
Here's your you, get some meds if you're not shitposting, and go do in a fire if you are shitposting.

>>16061836
Just don't reply to bait you faggot

In other news

wtf do nips actually like Arc? Shits so boring.

>>16061816
This must be people getting flagged as bots in real time

>>16061923

Out of the major Nijis, Kanae seems to be the hardest hit.

Here is him today (right) and the day he first played this game (left), both starting from the same approx waiting room number.
There is the mahjong overlap today but Kanae would have no trouble clearing 5k regardless.

>>16061934
They should have separate tribes and have a war.

>>16061436
Pekora-sama... I don't feel so good...

>>16061816
Hey remember that one nijimale who had a really weird pattern back in the day? Like his numbers suddenly shot up to 2k or something? And then there was an indie who was linked in this thread who usually has like 25 viewers and suddenly shot up to 200 for a brief period. was that an early sign of the susanpocalypse?

I bet pekora is watching miko right now. If this shit get high vod no. she going in.

>>16061978
didn't he try twitch today or am i confusing him with someone else

>>16062032
Start an ark arc on twitch just to have a silly story line.

Bug with likes was fixed.

>>16061978
>>16062043
It’s not just today. He streams there every so often and, today, he had no problem clearing 5.8k, higher than his last 7 streams on YouTube

Astel was hit hard

>>16062133
Good

>>16062133
Bad

>>16062133
Neutral

>>16062133
CHAOS

>>16062133
Lawful

>>16062133
Weird

>>16062133
Indescribable

>>16062105
told ya it's a seperate issue and probably a bug

>>16062141
>>16062146
>>16062151
>>16062169
>>16062197
>>16062245
>>16062280

the absolute state of the numbers thread

>VOD has 10k views
>average CCV was 700
>the stream was only 40 minutes
That means that the aveage person watched 2.8 minutes of this stream. This is the 5th time I've calculated something like this. Once for Miko's Error stream, once for AZKi's karaoke, once for Towa's live, and for this Hayama stream. Each time I got 2.8 minutes for watch time for the CCV average to match up with the VOD views.

I swear there is something going on here but I don't know what. Why would 5 unrelated streams need the same average watch time to make the average CCV and VOD views match up. Am I schizo?

>>16062345
anon, please, take a break from numbers, it's eating your brain

>>16062345
*4
I meant 4
Still really odd to me, Pajeet bot is set to some frequency on what it checks for.

>>16062345
it must be something related with the processing time

>4k for Patora's new outfit
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSAN

>December 2021
>The Youtube AI was losing ground against the Japanese XRP crypto bots
>They were forced to use their final measure
>Nuke all Japanese viewers
>The XRP bots were defeated, but at what cost?

Asteru....

are the medals today really going to be one of the annual niji events, gura and kuzuha and no one else
i think i need to go lay down or something

>>16062345
Yes your a schizo
Put all the other average watch times you calculated, along with the average watch times before the culling
If people have similar attention spans for streams before the culling, then after the culling divides the viewer number and average watch time there should be still similar view times now under a smaller range of numbers (10 minutes to 12 minutes now is 2.5 minutes to 3 minutes) so if there's a large amount of streams you're bound to hit a sizeable number of the same decimal

>>16061490
lap's guerilla
https://vrabi.ml/video/w7iD2P6KEQU

why is this thread dead?

this is Astel poll

>>16062586
the susanpocalypse

>>16061579
Or you could just compare the VOD of those that this board deemed to be culled with similar or lower average CCV and compare it to those 2

>>16062582
>not even 100% participation
homos...

>>16062586
what do you wants us to do man, susan killed all the fun in numbers

>>16062620
Math reps...

>>16062597
Lexdell.......

>>16062634
ah shit my eyesightreps

>>16062586
culled

>>16062662
the absolute state

>>16062529
you're like one of those guys yelling at the bartender for not giving you good service as the titanic is sinking.

>>16062597
Afflicted, but not terminal yet.

>>16062582
>Do you love Astel?
>41% No
kek

>>16062698
I like him but I'm not gay

ML was a mistake

>>16062529
Still better than this day

>>16062529
Bitch the time for golds is long gone.

>>16062586
Every metric is fucked recently so we don't have anything to talk about

>>16062557
2.8 minutes seem like a silly ass number to end up with. If we knew a good average watch time number then we could be able to guess with some reasonable accuracy what the real CCV average was. If we assume it's 10~ minutes then Laplus' karaoke from the other day had an average CCV of 23k which doesn't seem out of line.

I just want to wake up one day and not see nike charts...

Did Nene stream the watchalong on twitch yet

Meanwhile in .LIVE news Suzu's Mario Sunshine stream got 100 more viewers than her last one before the cull started and Chieri who was averaging around 700 for her DBD streams is getting close to 1k

>>16061816
that looks like obs shitting itself

it's getting slower

>>16062928
She fell asleep so she's gonna shower and then start it at 11pm, which is in an hour.

>>16062946
>Stuck in view purgatory for ages
>Get contracted by Riku to cast a spell to end Hololive's dominance
>Hijack it by forcing all other chubbas to fall to your level while sorta allowing Niji to win via events
>Now king of the midgets

>>16062892
Wish granted, no more Nikes because they're all L's instead

>>16063048
Id like to say 5 minutes in only but it already curved down lmao

>>16063048
PLEASE SUSAN STOP
PLEASE

>>16063048
I'm actually going to cry

>>16062946
What the fuck, they've done a couple of outside collabs since the cull too so it's not like they're completely isolated, are they really the only unaffected JP agency?

>>16062516
https://youtu.be/AEagAcFP1II
Defeat the bots by destroying the world

90% of the waiting room gone. Collabs seem to be the most affected by this due to shared audience.

2nd part of niji mahjong qualifs is over
predicted id tie to part 1 with 42k, got 43k

jesas man

Chloe is doing her first mengen today, just think of all those sweet juicy superchats Hololyzer and Playboard won't be able to record...

I don't think there are nijifags in these threads, just holo fanatics and holo antis. If there were they'd be very concerned with how the mahjong preliminaries did. 42.5k and 43k is really not great compared to 86k and 94k of last year.

>>16063284
towa is really unlucky

I've never seen anyone mention Kuzuha outside of these threads

>Koro-san back to 4k views
I used to rule the world..

>>16063380
There are no nijifags in the west, except NijiEn

>>16063380
There are some, but they only pop up once in a while. With the current state of numbers and the fact that there's and ongoing thread for Niji mahjong, they're probably in their split + that thread.

>>16063380
I'm sure that drop is completely natural and from an actual decrease in interest in Nijisanji, not from anything else that's affecting every other JP vtuber right now

>>16063380
Better than yesterday's tournament main pov tho

>>16063525
And? That really isn't the point, the point is the drop in numbers compared to what they should be.

>>16063566
Try comparing vods then if you're not shitposting

>>16063751
Even for her, that's low. Then again, if Hololive watchers have been flagged, it's unsurprising that some of those also watch Kson.

>>16063751

Help me cope with this shitty numbers. Should we numberfag amount of fanart now?

How many doujins did Hololive/Niji sell? How many are translated right now?

I just saw a translated Miko doujin yesterday.

>>16063655
NTA but
????
compare the last years vods to this ones?
like whats even your point my dude

>>16063961
As on, we can extrapolate what the CCV SHOULD have been based off of VOD numbers a little after the stream ends, and the Nijisanji data bot has historical numbers to cross-check against.

Risu is getting an original song.

Numbers?

>>16064133
Low

>>16063920
https://www.melonbooks.co.jp/search/search.php?mode=search&search_disp=&chara=&orderby=popular&disp_number=100&pageno=1&text_type=all&name=%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A3%E3%83%AB%E3%83%A6%E3%83%BC%E3%83%81%E3%83%A5%E3%83%BC%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC+%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%9E%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B1%E3%83%83%E3%83%8899&fromagee_flg=2&search_target_all=0&additional_all=1&product_type=all&is_second_hand%5B%5D=1&is_second_hand2=1&is_end_of_sale2=1&co_name=&ci_name=&sale_date_before=&sale_date_after=&publication_date_before=&publication_date_after=&price_low=0&price_high=0&disp_number=100

Do you think Nenes twitch watchalong will beat her past few streams ccv

>>16064184
Nice link retard

>>16064294
2k, 1.7k, 2.2k, 4.3k, 2.6k, 6.7k, 28k(costume)
I could see her watchalong beating 2k, given her last watchalong peaked at 2.4k.

>>16064133
> Doesn't do much karaoke that most people forget she sings
> Doesn't stream much these day
> Her recent cover can't even reach 300k
100k if she is very lucky

So with this, Vshojo is now the top EN vtuber group, with numbers i clining. NijiEN is showing so much potential now thay male EN vtubers are getting big. How sad that HoloEN is dropping real hard.

>>16063751
Isn't she said she will stream on twitch this year ?

oh look, vschizo is back

>>16064294
Nene actually went and did a post about it on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/rz0ed9/momosuzu_nenesuper_hyper_ultra_idol_vtuber_twitch/

Why is it a watchparty anyway, just do a normal stream and test the ground. Play a game.

>>16063284
YT will fix this by hiding waiting room numbers.

How are we gonna fix VShojo? Their numbers are reclining realistically with fans leaving them for HoloEN. It looks high to the unsuspecting eye, but they've padded their numbers with thousands of viewbots and embed their stream on other sites. Their only hope of inclining back again is hopping on Mizkif, Ludwig and Soda's bed again. Can they stop being a toy for OTV or will they keep trading their mind and body for views? It's unhealthy and depressing.

Welcome back to the bottom, Reimu.

Botan revealed that her post-stream analytics showed peak CCV for her Metal Wolf Chaos playthrough was around 14000.

>>16065043
no fucking way
pic? she was a memeber stream right now isnt she?

>>16065059
Yeah, she just talked about it, didn't show her analytics pic so you'll just have to take her word for it.

>>16064827
Their permissions are platform dependent so they'd have to get separate permissions for twitch

>>16065043
Seems about right, this shit is ridiculous

>>16065043
Jesas. So 80% cull

>>16061836
We don't hate Nijisanji, in fact we love them.

The reason why we frame it like this as Hololive getting victimized by CCVID but Nijisanji naturally reclining is because we know just how special and awesome Hololive is. Nijisanji on the other hand kind of sucks ass so its understandable that people would stop watching bad entertainment.

>It's been two weeks since this shit started
>Hei didn't make a video
>Quartering didn't make a video
>Rev didn't make a video
>Woohoo didn't make a video
I guess spinning up literal who tweets into "important" drama makes more money for these fucks. At least Vtuber-centric news channels like Khyo and FalseEyeD covered it, but they don't have as much reach.

migoti 5.9k already on a noscreen watchalong

Shitposting aside veibae did pull 3000 less viewers than normal yesterday. Probably just a one day occurance though as she started with a Ironmousr and Silvervale overlap but even after they got off she barely cracked 11k when she was pumping easy 14ks the days prior. Again probably just a one day occurance though.

>Miko has more people in her Interstellar Twitch watchlong than she did for Ark

>>16065101
man, even this fucking board in general isn't taking this seriously at all

>>16061923
>CCVID hits
>Risu has been debuffing herself for well over a year
>She finally feels comfortable now since numbers are bad across the board
>Finally decides to do something for once
Holy shit

>>16065043
Also mentioned her Halo Infinite playthrough cleared 10k+ viewers, not as high as Metal Wolf Chaos but the cull wasn't as hard.

>>16065043
4x the numbers, same as matsuri said (3 to 4x)

>>16065043
It's believable actually assuming she's averaging 10-12k for 3 hours. MC HoloX was a buffed stream so it can get more than 15k.

>>16065043
Is that game a bit of a buff for her? That's a little above her normal numbers.

Fubuki is definitely not being affected as hard as the others, at least when it comes to Pokemon. Her audience in this case must consist mostly of uninfected tourists.

>>16065134
Theres a huge stigma to numbers since niggers just use it to shitpost unfortunately

>7k for miko on twitch
Kek

>>16065075
Not for Minecraft or Valve games though unless they're stupid enough to actually ask for permissions for this games

>>16065113
Based on vod views there is a slight recline but not enough yet. She should keep sucking lakary and sodas dick tough

>>16064567
Ah....Vschizo came back. Nice to know you're still alive in vt.

>>16065113
Veibae got a big buff from hanging out with OTK. Doubled her twitch VOD views. We could see trickle-down effects on the vtuber ecosystem.

>>16065168
Her actual numbers are likely higher than what we know for 2021 since JP was also hit like EN was back in Dec 2020, just to a somewhat lesser extent.

>>16065154
for buffed botan streams it used to be between 18-20k, i remember for example her first stream of pokemon when she did the collab with lamy was around that

Miko already has almost same viewers she had for Ark in a watchalong, seems legit

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SUSAN oh wait wrong platform

AAAAAAAAAA BEZOSSSSSSSSSS

>>16065188
>8k for a shitty watchalong
SUSAAAAAAAANNN

>>16065168
It's possible that CCV numbers have always been "culled", but we just never noticed because they were normal enough to not throw any red flags. Maybe the reported CCVs on their analytics have always been higher than what's shown publicly.

>>16065171
Fubuki saving JP once again I kneel...

>>16064567

aren't watchalongs literally the worst streams for numbers, or are those supacha streams

>>16065043

When Amazon bought twitch, did the OG devs left?

>>16065285
Watchalong usually worse.

>>16065171
you're the fbk timeloop anon aren't you

>>16065285
Depends of vtuber, but usually watchalongs are worse.

>>16065143
>On the 28th
>Cull was already in effect but weaker
Makes sense to me.

>>16065171
anon Fubuki is right now super strong

I wonder if Gura would ever be willing to reveal what her actual live viewers are?

>>16065252
>interstellar
>shitty
???

Migo 8.4k

>>16065285
I only really can anecdote ame on this one and its dependent on movie for her. Literal who movies get less than her SCs while known movies or new ones get equal or slightly more

>>16065336
>Gura
>Caring a out non-og music numbers
>Opening her analytics page
You've got a better chance at getting struck by lightning, Anon.

>>16065226
>>16065257
>>16065226
Yeah I did think about that, but we've seen real time analytics of what streamers see and it roughly lines up with their what the viewers see. So that would mean even before this cull youtube was verifying some viewers after the stream and then updating the analytics.

>>16065343
this is literally higher than her peak from the ark stream after the waiting room cull
what the actual fuck

>>16065336
didint she mention on her gta stream a third of his viewers are hidden?
or am i delusional again?

>>16065382
The real time analytics the streamer sees are still culled, the un-culled analytics only show up for them after a day or two of processing.

migo 10k get

>Migo Interstellar Stellar
>10,000 ccv
>on a debuff stream like a watchalong
yeah youtube fucked up hard here

>>16065376
If worded in a way like "Botan recently revealed her live viewers were culled by more than 50% would you be willing to reveal how many live viewers you had for the mario kart tournament?"

>>16065413
That was here, we were saying about a 3rd of her viewers were missing based on past GTA streams.

Miko watchalong has the highest viewers she's had since MikKorone 24h, YouTube is so fucked it's unbelievable

>>16065382
I figure that would probably have been the case from even before the adblock cull in 2020. Only real-time analytics are getting affected in both cases, which is why YouTube kept claiming "it won't change anything".

>>16065171
Fubuki could have straight up been close to 40k for this.

but on the other hand, it might be possible that many of her Pokemon only viewers only watch her streams.

HOLY FUCK!! This is a fucking watch along too.

SUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN!!!!

>>16065171
>fubuki pokemon is unaffected
see pic. The last one is up from 313k to 333k views now, so the cull is even higher

>>16065168
if not CCV always being culled I imagine it's an effect of the fanbase rallying harder to watch the girls more as a means to protect their wellbeing

>>16065453
This seems way higher than usual, usually she's like 3k-5k for watchalongs.

10k on a watchalong, if Hololive streamed more on twitch like once weekly they would probably casually hit 30k+ and mog everyone

>10k for watchalong
Kek fuck you Susan

>>16065472
interestellar is a nice movie

>twitch numbers are accurate now that a holo is streaming there

>>16065171
fubuki is undoubtedly affected if you look at her last stream a 3.8k ccv 1 hour stream got twice more VOD view than kanata with about the same ccv at the same time
if you follow her stream you will know that fubuki fanbase are mostly casual and take a long time to join stream, since there rarely is almost no unicorn fag. Her stream both before and after pokemon arc will rarely has waiting room higher than 2k but ccv can varied very widely from 5k-20k, so you won't see her curve get niked

>>16065442
>Talking a out MEMBERS ONLY CONTENT AND NUMBERS to another chubba
You autistic sperg. No. That's a double-rulebreak. At best, you could try and ask but she'll likely ignore it or just go 'i dunno I don't check'.

Pekora will also do watchalong for interstellar, that's going to be interesting.

>Miko already above her watchparty ccv peak?
Is miko inclining? or twitch is?

>>16065442
Oh yeah Botan is talking about the culling.

Nene just started her watchalong stream. 1500 to start with

I hope Vshojofags aren't Twitchfags because Vshojo would be sent to the bench right away if Holos started streaming on Twitch consistently.

>>16061398
Speculation is that there was a 6 month ban that prevented Holos from interacting with Kson that ended.

>>16065495
Your dumb

>>16065516
Just remove Botan and say a hololive member and simply have it from a concerned point of view "Youtube has recently been culling live viewer numbers by over 50% according to other hololive members, has it been affecting you as much?"

>>16065594
You could TRY in a member's only streams, but my bets are she still ignores it.

How insane will /#/ be for the Myth NY outfit reveals later today?

>>16065516
>>16065442
>>16065442
>>16065336
mention matsuri instead, she talked about it on a normal public stream
まつり「同接バグ最近エグいみたいですね~」
まつり「下に表示されてるやつとアナリティクスで3倍、4倍ぐらい違うwww」
まつり「2万人くらい見てるのに3000人になってたりとか」
https://youtu.be/qvb2KFUhDbM?t=165
>www that [ccv] is 3 times or 4 times different in analytics from the one displayed below

>>16065532
Miko's base likely rallying, plus Interstellar is a GOOD movie.

>>16065639
Meh, expectations are pretty low even if they're culled less compared to JP.
Get ready for "haha HoloX is trash" shitposting though.

Nene, movie hasn't even started

So Miko has more viewers than Shiv playing apex.

>>16065536
Any more info about what she thinks about it?

>>16065639
>Terrible timeslot
>Relay
>Barely any hype
It's gonna be awful

>>16065680
>beating her 3 recent streams already as a watchalong

>>16065674
I mean they were guaranteed to get less CCVs cull or no. The already got new outfits a month ago and these are just half hour streams.

>>16065680
what movie is?
and what is the sound active?

>>16065560
>Holos started streaming on Twitch
>Huge online 30-40k. Online at important events 100-200k.
>The twitch administration thinks they are using bots.
>Introduce a system like YouTube.
>For everyone, including in-shojo, online drops to 500-1000.

HoloVirus.

>>16065736
Fantastic Beasts 2, she's just pon'ing

>>16065736
Fantastic Beats, that Harry Potter spinoff movie.

>>16065694
>Botan is talking about the view count bug.
>They're aware of the mismatch, they can see it in their dashboard. In her opinion CCV is indeed important for them.
>They're waiting for google to fix it and tells viewers to not worry about it.
>She also makes fun of the contrast between CCV and views count after the stream ends.

>>16065043
So, anything that matches that kind of VOD viewership has 15k+ CCV in actuality?

>>16065734
>The twitch administration thinks they are using bots.
Twitch don't care about that

>>16065736
movie's in the screenshot anon
>ファンタスティク ビースト

>>16065658
like 500 leave for nene as soon as the notice pop up
she still have 9.3k now
currently higher than dark knight's 8k but lower than Eva's 10k
it's higher than anything she did in YT for the pass few days

Speaking of outfit reveals isn't Gura's first outfit reveal and Pekora's outfit reveal the two most live watched vtuber streams other than Coco's graduation. I know Niji Koshien is up there as well.

>>16065770
that's so fucking relieving jesus christ
it makes me feel less like a schizo
hoping it gets fixed soon, but i have no faith these days

>>16065680
She hit 3k, then the region lock happened and some kaigainikkis left

I hope Ame does watchalongs on twitch, it kills her youtube relevance. Bitch is so stubborn

>>16065680
she only has 30k follower on twitch too

>>16065864
Ame despises twitch culture despite her background

>>16065251
at 9.3k now fucking kek, she has more viewers on a twitch watchalong than 5 out of 6 of her previous yt normal streams

>>16065909
NTA but is she really willing to die slowly on Youtube than interact with Twitch? rumao

>>16065770
Well, it's good that all of them know by now, and that our estimates for how badly some of them are getting cut do like up with what they're seeing. Also from 50%->80% in under 2 weeks is...Yeesh, that's not good. If it does continue to get worse, expect culls of 85-90% next week.

>>16065680
those twitch legal and illegal viewbots really work fast

>>16065909
I remember retards spamming her bubbabot with sachi emotes and various other things when she had it as an open chat for like 5 minutes. Very cool.

>>16065776
Depends on what stage of the cull they're in.
>>16065143
Her halo infinite was culled but not as hard.

>>16065959
She constantly has SC turned of on her streams, she doesn't give a shit.

How many viewers does Miko have? I can't see her channel.

>>16066097
9.3k

>>16065908
I guess average watch time will really help the most if this is the case

>>16065043
that makes much more sense with the waiting room numbers of 6k

>>16066097
I see 9.4K, I think she peaked at around 10K. That's twice the viewers Korone is getting from her stream in YT rumao

I honestly think Myth would perform better on Twitch at this point. Almost goes without saying. At least we would see their true numbers. Which is already to much for ask for.

>>16066029
>Stage 1
Light, 20-30%, hard to notice from the outside, can look like an off-day
>Stage 2
Moderate/heavy, 40-50% cull, noticable for outsiders, definitive signs of waiting room recovery issues
>Stage 3
Bad. 60-70% culls, almost no waiting room recovery, (Nike) stage
>Stage 4
Terminal. Taking the Ls from Susan 'cause that's what the number graphs look like when you're at this stage
>Stage 5
?????
Speculated, but the predictions would indicate you're a 3-view now if you used to pull 10ks.

>>16066170
Myth might be too powerful for Twitch to handle simultaneously, try with Council first.

>>16066148
>holo admits ccv matters to them
>global suddenly cares
Love to see it

>>16066170
English vtubers will do better on Twitch

>>16066217
Idiots, the lot of them.
Unless your name is Gura, of course it matters. Even for Ame, she's paying attention to that for her event streams but probs doesn't care too much for watchalongs and Supa Sundays.
Like, why wouldn't you care about one of the metrics that measures how well your doing your job? I swear, sometimes people are so averse to numbers they let it blind them to obvious facts.

>>16066148
>Her Metal Wolf Chaos stream that showed a 3.5k CCV peak actually had 14k
>Her Halo Infinite sponsored stream that showed 5.5k actually had over 10k
Jesas 14k to 3.5k

>10k people show up to watch a film with Miko
Could she get 30k for an MC stream if she had Suisei, Flare, and Polka without their PoV?

>>16066419
Easily

>>16066376
It just gets worse every day

Gatchman doesn't seem to be too culled, guess his viewers are mostly normies and there's not that much actual VTuber overlap

>>16066376
well on holostats it says that the peak was 6.6k while the actual peak is as botan says 3.5k so it seems youtube doesn't show the peak of the waiting room but the actual stream before it refreshes into the actual ccv?

>>16066419
With enough advertising to let the associated fanbases know? Sure why not.

I honestly hope they make Gura stream on twitch atleast once just so we can see her at her full potential

>>16062333
this whole board is reddit lite at this point

>>16066529
Give it up Anon. The Venn diagram of Hololive watchers that speak English and Reddit usage is...

>>16066376
Damn, a fucking 75% cull.

[Good News] There's numbers premiere countdown

>>16065453
Miko getting 10k for a ducking watch along? If Gura streamed GTA or Minecraft what would she get? What if she let Sykkuno and friends raid? I want her to do it exactly once so we could have some fun vshojo shitposts

>>16066692
>more than half an hour to recover waiting room
>graph spazzes out
yep def ccvid, expect the nike graphs by next week

>>16066692
Oh dear, that definitely looks like stage 2
>>16066173

>>16066501
I honestly think twitch itself will acknowledge her presence if she does stream there.

>>16065043
So are these the numbers Konami/capcom/microsoft etc get to see? Cover has to tell them or else it looks bad.

>>16066859
These are the numbers they first see.
Remember, they don't get their real analytics until a few days after.

>Choco losing 510 levels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wypWkQBdOs&t=16376

kek, time for some more MC grinding

>>16066859
When they provide numbers for sponsorships and things? Yes, but they don't get them until after YT is done 'processing'.

>>16066260
>it's all Japanese
because regular Twitch streamers had no qualms straight up showing the thing they were watching and calling it "Just chatting"

>>16065770
>They're waiting for google to fix it and tells viewers to not worry about it.

In next week views not change, but numbers in dashboard and CCV on stream is same.

GOOGLE FIX IT!

>>16066907
the numbers...

>>16066857
last time miko play MC twitch official posted about it
even clipping some miko moments himself

>>16066859
in youtube they usually pay for unique viewers, a better metric available to the channel owner

>>16065770
>They're waiting for google to fix it and tells viewers to not worry about it.
rumao rumao roru roru

To take a break about Youtube fuckery.
A jp 3 view I follow is playing the demo of the Hololive's game and is getting 100+ than she usually does.
https://youtu.be/YBwZt7cQk0g
Quality aside I's shit, I wonder with Holo now getting into the videogame market we will see indies or small corpos playing the game as a way to attract the Holo fanbase.

>>16066419
anon, with how the cull is going, she might have had 30k for today's Ark return stream.

Yes, she could get 30k for Minecraft

>>16066907
Oh that's cruel...
Roboco...
>>16066962
The sooner someone big gets impaled on the big dick of a copyright lawsuit, the better off Twitch as a whole will be.

>>16065770
Botan really should be a frontliner for Holo for things like this (and other public face stuff). Her overwhelming hag aura + connections from long time in gaming probably give her more pull than most.

>Migo and Nene has no moderators for their chats

Hooo boy, this'll be interesting. Especially since nene is streaming without submode.

>>16067022
But sponsors/collab partners are not privy to that info. What about selling themselves out? Less boys will come to the yard if they see 3k streams everywhere instead of 12k streams.

>>16067039
Why does yagoo want to do video games? Is he trying to revert back to the tech origins of cover?

>without the cull the ccv numbers would be 4x bigger
>then pekora had 200k+ for her fucking matronome tournament
SUSAN HATE

>>16067039
? I've seen her get over 2k several times.
Guess the cull hit her hard too.

But for the 2nd part, yes. Indies already played the Korone game in drones and some have covered Holo originals. They'll jump on the big holo open world.

Streams over 10k (08.01.2022)

Nijisanji 43,154
Nijisanji 42,560
Gura 11,634
Kuzuha 11,115
Fubuki 10,566

Winners of the day
#01 Chloe (Hololive) 39.2k
#02 Korone (Hololive) 48.1k
#03 Pekora (Hololive) 59.7k
#04 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 14k
#05 Toya (Nijisanji) 19.7k
#06 Yashiro (Nijisanji) 20.6k
#07 Towa (Hololive) 37.5k
#08 Nijisanji (Nijisanji) 43.1k

>>16067212
most sponsors on youtube deal with video uploads. There is no ccv, vod views can be doubled+ because of relatively short durations. They just ask for your unique viewers, or else create a unique link to their site and track/pay for that.

>>16067117
>overwhelming hag aura
Now thats not very nice anon

>>16067256
more like 2-3 times at the time.
It's getting progressively worse.

This does mean that there would have been several 100k+ streams this year though.

>>16067212
Nah, depends on the brand.
A lot of 3views get sponsored by gacha games.

>>16067311

>>16067311
>We currently live in an era where Gura and Toya are literally the only Youtube based vtubers that can consistently pull over 10k

>>16067164
Miko has been doing twitch watchalongs for almost 2 years now without issue

>>16067311
How many events Nijisanji has left for this month?

>>16067345
botans 4x metal wolf was 4 days ago, pekoras metronome was 5 days ago. So still pretty close to 4x

>>16067288
>2k
Those were every full moon anon.
Her usual numbers barely break 200
Also those are fangames, this is an official Hololive game.

>>16067212
We usually look at their subs and audience first.
t.advertiser

>>16067345
The twappers live must have been 70k-80k in reality.

>>16067393
the mahjong event is 4 streams iirc

>>16067311
only three can break the 10k
holy jesas

>>16067311
why are you still doing it anon, this is like building on a pile of shit with more shit every new day. Besides, you dont even got your day winners right.

>>16067311
>5 streams
>besides one of the annual niji events, it's just 3 and it's 2 11k and a 10k
fuck me dude, im dying here

>>16067454
twappers happened 3 days later than botans mentioned stream

>>16067477
That isn't the usual tally-anon, but the one who usually does it has that disclaimer that it's merely for 'historical ressons' because these sure as hell aren't anywhere close to the real numbers.

>>16066321
I think some people like to pretend this isn't a business and that thier oshis aren't just parts of the business' gearworks.

While we are all focusing on the negatives imagine if google actually fixes their shit and numbers return to pre 2020 numbers

>>16067641
0% chance of that happening.
Though I think Kiara implied that their (ENs) numbers have been fucked since 2020 didn't she?

>>16067369
I'm more worried about Nene's though, no slow mode or sub mode so she can get spammed ASCII dick art by some schizos.

>>16067641

>>16066148
>those replies
>all those people mentioning the cull last year was only for HoloEN
How are they so unaware of everything? HoloEN got a 37% cut and JPs got a 26% cut. In fact ALL of youtube gaming got a 30% cut that quarter.

>>16067663
>their (ENs)
>ENs
read >>16067706
Everyone experienced the first cull.

>>16067509
>>16067311
Do watchalongs count? We only need 400 viewers to get 10K in Migo's stream so this list isn't depressing.

>Watch stream like that.
>Don't understand why google marked you a "bot".

If vtubers choose twitch, then there will be no point in the number of viewers. They will start using the raid feature for everything.