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16024898 No.16024898 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't they as popular as Suichan? Didn't they go through the same experience

>> No.16024949

>>16024898
All of them got molested?

>> No.16032137

>>16024898
Only Suzy managed to take advantage of her mental illness and past trauma

>> No.16032221

>>16024898
Nene is plenty popular. Numberfags can fuck off.

>> No.16032260

>>16024898
They all sucked dick to get into hololive but Suisei gave the best head.

>> No.16032334

Suisei is a good singer, Nene is a good idol and Kiara is an ENwhore

>> No.16032350

>>16024898
If Suisei is so much better why am I subbed to yellow and orange but not blue?
Checkmate retard

>> No.16032413

>>16032350
Do you like blue? That could be the problem

>> No.16032423

>>16032221
Numberfags are the ones that know Nene is more popular than the average Holomen, it's the retards who look at her and see she isn't at 1 million subs yet who think she isn't

>> No.16032534

>>16032350
You have shit taste, cumbag.

>> No.16032679

>>16032534
Stop falseflagging

>> No.16032739

>>16024898
They aren't flat. Gura proves that flat chests are the most successful.

>> No.16032788

>>16032679
Go back to the general

>> No.16033518

>>16024898
Kiara - drama stacy, has plenty of anti in /vt/. High obnoxious voice.
Nene - adorable retard, doesn't aim for professionalism. Her voice alone couldn't be attractive as Sui she has to fill in with dancing

>> No.16035380

Suichan was never in an idol group like Kiara and Nene were.

>> No.16035482

>>16024949
Yes but Nene was molested by Kiara so it's a little different.

>> No.16035820

>>16024898
Nene is a cute airhead, but she's a largely one dimensional character who lacks depth and edge.

Chimkin voice.

>> No.16035964
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16035964

>>16033518
>doesn't aim for professionalism
Excuse me but Nene is very professional and can even drive her own car to get to her professional business meetings like a big girl

>> No.16035992

>>16024949
by me.

>> No.16036057
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16036057

>>16035380
Suisei tries the hardest and that's why I love her

>> No.16036400

>>16024898
It's ironic that both of them are doing quite better than Suzy on SC numbers.

>> No.16036614

>>16036400
SCs aren't everything. Suisei always is top seller in merch

>> No.16036724

>>16036057
The reason she wasn't in an idol group is because she sang too well.

>> No.16036948

>>16035964
Nene is also the best artist in Hololive.

>> No.16036954

>>16036724
No. The reason why she wasn't a real idol is because she wasn't a great singer at the time because she was forcing a voice, she was bad at dancing and the things she knew were irrelevant for the job

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16037067

>>16036954
her dancing especially must have been absolutely scuffed at the time

>> No.16037282

>>16035964
fuck, my bad, I take it back

>> No.16037338

>>16036954
I think there’re other reasons why she wasn’t picked looking at the idol agency’s insane standards.

>> No.16037554

>>16036614
Does she really get any money from that? She doesn't own the character.

>> No.16038011

>>16037554
Supposedly she owns the character, Hoshimachi Suisei is not a registered IP by Cover. She had the Converse collab, the sololive, Cinderella Switch with Miko, the album, the Don Quixote plushie which was the top seller hololive plushie in CDJapan. All of that sold a lot and that would mean that she has a lot of money

>> No.16038093

>>16032350
Based retard

>> No.16038355

>>16032423
Unfortunately Nene herself is one of those "retards".

>> No.16038407

>>16038011
Her songs cost her quite a large amount of that profit so its not like she's earning much.

>> No.16038486

>>16037554
She does own the character, uniquely among holos, because she started as an indie. That being said, even the girls who don't own their characters get a cut of the merch. Cover would have to be a black company of the highest order not to pay talents from their own merch sales.

>> No.16038581

>>16038486
Would they really? I mean I'm not the most versed on copyright laws, but does a voice actor usually get a cut of the merchandise for their character? I thought regular actors only did because it used their likeness.

>> No.16038632

>>16038407
I mean, yeah? It's like an investment that she already did for the album

>> No.16038698

>>16038581
They aren't simply voice actors. They ARE the product. It's different from a publisher that has an author's work, turned into an anime, and giving one of those roles to a voice actor.

>> No.16038812

>>16038581
NTA but you are thinking vtuber=voice actor but that's wrong. The voice is just a part of the character, the personality is unique and they are irremplazable and they do get a cut from merch.

>> No.16039095

>>16032334
This pretty much

>> No.16039529

>>16038812
Well my issue with what you're saying is that you're not speaking in legal, you're speaking in retard. Idealistic retard at that. Vtubers are probably considered as voice actors because I doubt Japan has passed specific legislation for Vtubers (and also they don't operate under common law).
...Though that also doesn't really mean much, I guess. If the industry standards are for chuubas and people playing any such characters to get a cut then they'd probably demand as much in their contracts, and if the Holomems have said they get a cut then I've no reason to doubt it.

>> No.16041737

>>16039529
You're wrong
Lurk /jp/ 15 years more

>> No.16042224

>>16036057
I don't get this. I and everybody around me "tries my best" every day. Everyone I know is "succesful" supposedly but that's just how a normal person behaves, spending as much time as possible perfecting themselves as effectively as possible.
It makes me wonder, what so you do? Just waste time and be ineffective at reaching your goals? Just get up and do shit, and then keep doing it, it's literally that easy.

>> No.16042821

>>16041737
>going to /jp/

>> No.16044640

>>16038011
She herself said she spent most of what she earned in 2021 getting her album and solo live produced.

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>>16035820
Nene actually has plenty of depth you just have to REALLY look for it. Or rather the depth is presented differently, exploring conventionally deep characters could be described as reading through a mostly closed book, with Nene the book is wide open it's just written in hieroglyphics.

>> No.16045043

>>16042224
Your grammar is very confusing, ESL

>> No.16047217

>>16037554
they get way bigger cuts of merch sales than they do superchats and even memberships

>> No.16047394

>>16044640
Yes, and given what we know of her album sales she easily made what she spent back, and then some. That's not including the sololive mech and tickets, where she absolutely made a mad amount of cash too.

>> No.16047450

>>16024898
>suitan was in the earliest waves of hololive
>suitan made an album
How are they the same?

>> No.16052433

>>16042224
easier said than done for most people, its the shit that needs to be done that isn't desirable to do for most people, and those without proper discipline, ingrained by parents, will fail at this forever.

>> No.16052509

>>16024898
Imitation will never beat original.

>> No.16053521

>>16024898
lol Tenchou mogs both of them in subs, likes and subs. And her music its on another level, cant compare ;)

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