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Does she hate her English fans? Even though she speaks English fluently, she streams in Japanese most of the time and makes no effort to translate for her English viewers. Which on its own wouldn't be a red flag, but when you look at how other multilingual streamers go out of their way to repeat what they're saying in every language so that all of their fans feel welcome, it definitely makes her look like she has something against her English fans.

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>>15913642
who?

>> No.15913739

literally who?

>> No.15913757

I'm betting most of her money comes from JP fans. She said it's because it was because they were the ones her made her famous but I don't buy it. If you want her to pander to you, you gotta pay up

>> No.15913870

I can't believe Coco's fucking dead.

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>>15913642
>still seething

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>likes to speak jp
>this automatically means she hates to speak her native tongue

Imagine not learning jp for her

>> No.15914001

Presumably she doesn't want to autistically repeat everything she says because it breaks the momentum of the conversation. Her conversation delivery isn't mostly reactions and exclamations like Pikamee, who can translate like it's punctuation. Coco has an actual flow she tries to get into - you can tell she tries to communicate with the viewer in a 'natural' way. Bartender rp.

I do wish that Pikamee would keep translating during Pikason tho.

>> No.15914045 [DELETED] 

a coco thread, the timeloop has been reseted, discuss away until next reboot

>> No.15914217

>>15913757
I believe this. Chloe used to talk a lot in English when she was a 2views because they interacted a lot, but now she's pretty much only in Japanese.

Coco probably just got more comfortable in Japanese too. Remember when she just started and she could barely read all the kanji in chat?

>> No.15914454

>>15914217
Hold up, so Chloe's actually fluent? She's just pretending to speak it poorly because cute broken English gets her free money?

>> No.15914575

>>15914454
She's not fluent but her English is better than you would expect. It's about on par with Lui's. If she wanted to lean into the English stuff she easily could

>> No.15915018

Streaming in two languages is a debuff. Simple as. Better to chose one and stick with it.

>> No.15915327

>>15915018
Thanks for tossing in that "Simple as", it's always a good signal that the poster has no clue what he's talking about and is just a meme-spouting troglodyte.

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>Thanks for tossing in that "Simple as", it's always a good signal that the poster has no clue what he's talking about and is just a meme-spouting troglodyte.

>> No.15915705

>>15915327
Tiananmen, fag.

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>Tiananmen, fag.

>> No.15916022

im kind of glad she doesnt do the "repeat everything in two languages" meme its really jarring when i watch other streamers do it

>> No.15916227

>>15913642
She was able to pick a fucking language but not a streaming platform....

>> No.15916335

>>15915018
It is passible if they speak one language 80~90% of the time and the other language just to pick out certain comments. You're right, it is just better to stick with one language per stream. If you want to speak another language then flag it as English Only.

>> No.15916475

>>15913642
FUCK EOP PANDERING!

>> No.15916517 [DELETED] 

>>15915851
I AM a proud redditor. Do your worst, Chang. COVID is your fault.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr3SQ1RaqwQ

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She admitted that because of her native filthy language the youtube censors start harassing her.

In her own words - "youtube's asshole is so tight that I just can't find my way in" - https://youtu.be/kpDocyEObpc?t=1210

>> No.15917801

>>15916532
>little bit of japanese when doing an EN stream
>no EN when doing a JP stream
s-s-sugoi

>> No.15918649

>>15913642
I thought everyone already knew that she blatantly favors JP fans to an extreme degree. She will refuse to ever leave them out of the loop unlike how she does to her EN fans.

>> No.15918836 [DELETED] 

>>15916517
The absolute state of this board

>> No.15918995

>>15913642
Considering that her available EN collabs are Nux, Vshojo and Trash Taste, I entirely understand why Kson had to be careful and cautious with the EN vtubing world. I don't want her to experience any more controversy, she had suffered enough.

>> No.15919053 [DELETED] 

>>15918836
Absolutely based you mean.

>> No.15919226

>>15913951
Go back tranny

>> No.15919250

>>15913642
She always did, her whole scheme since her days of kson 1.0 was presenting a heavily stereotypical view of America to her japanese audience while basically never speaking in english, I'm always surprised at how her english audience was all gaslight in believing she did content for them

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>>15918995
But she has collabed with Yura of Prism Project.

>> No.15920480

>>15919262
Prism Project is OK. But unfamiliar when it comes to the EN Audience. It's the yabes who dominate the Indie EN Audience, while Kson is banned from ever collabing with HoloEN/NijiEN because corporate laws exist. This is why I understand her cautiousness.

>> No.15920540

>>15913642
She's dead. Kson is just a random whore that sounds like Coco.

>> No.15920574 [DELETED] 

>>15914045
seriously this, make a thread about kson or coco and people will spew the same shit in every one of them, every new one is a copy paste of the old one

>> No.15921279

>>15913642
Imagine you're an American. You put in years of study to learn a different language. Then at the end you have the option to never talk to another American again. There you go.

>> No.15923404

Any numberfag knows what was the percentage of jpy/her total superchat?

>> No.15925958

I believe the correct term is DID she hate her english fans

>> No.15926425

>>15915018
This. It's always better to focus on one major language with some secondary languages interspliced throughout at the most.
Sadly being multilingual is a huge debuff. The most popular ones that actively entertain multiple languages to a large degree tend to get less overall viewership because it feels kind of clashy to the average person, and confusing to the rarer multilingual viewer who would have to get used to hearing the same thing said twice. (I don't mind it personally, it's indirect reps really)
Using the language as a prop - ie, "[language] challenge!", like the many Coco was involved in during her time, is another good use of it, and created some of the funniest collabs with the bastardized English that came out of Mio at times.
Another route is "well surely doing [language] only dedicated streams would work as well?" sadly does not work. There's several people that have tried to make it work and not really get anywhere with it, where people sometimes have 2 if not 3 separate communities with very little overlap because they usually don't know the other language(s). This is especially true of Japans pathetic literacy rates in foreign languages, and westernized places like Burgerland and the UK. (Aussies as well I guess, if they even exist, I'm on to your lies!)

>> No.15926742

>>15926425
Maybe I am an ouliter, but I prefer mutilingual vtubers. Kiara and Ollie for example. Or maybe because to me, multilingualism is an expression of intelligence.

>> No.15927733

>>15926742
This post is an expression of genetic retardation.

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>>15914217
>Chloe doesn't pander to us anymore
We lost EOP bros...

>> No.15927857

>>15913882
Confessions that are posted in the confession thread, stay in the confession thread. That’s the whole point of the confession thread.

>> No.15928408

>>15913642
It is really incredible how someone who doesn't really bother catering to her english speaking fandom at all still made them into her own personal army to fight an asian war online over nothing while she took in all the cash from it. I don't think she is a genius either, just that EOPs and ESLs are retards and easy to exploit like this.

>> No.15928627

>>15913642
She hates America.

>> No.15929589

>>15926742
>multilingualism is an expression of intelligence
BHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.15929891

>>15929589
Kiara learned Japanese (classified by the US Military as the hardest language) in just Six Months, and Ollie is a Mathematician. If that's not intelligence, then i do not know what is.

Besides, my point is, Coco/Kson must be cautious, if she is transitioning to Twitch to have more contact with the EN vtubing world. The collab with Nux already created so much controversy (not only on 4chan, but also on Reddit and Discord), even if he behaved. Even then, I hope for her to reach out for her EN fans more. Pikamee and Taishi are key.

>> No.15930827

>>15929891
>and Ollie is a Mathematician
Is she actually? I don't know anything about her roommate education, but everything she's talked about related to math was basically shit you learn either in last year of high school or first two semesters of introductory math taught at almost any engineering related university/college.

>> No.15930953

Why would any JP Vtubers want to pander to filthy greyname EOP?

>> No.15930993

>>15930953
Everyone in the Vtubing world knows that it was Coco who popularised HoloEN and the EN audience.

>> No.15931081

>>15914575
No its not I watched her for 2 years you are talking out of your ass

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>>15927787
This was her zatsudan today, she made ~$12k, of which 97% was in yen and the only donation from a western country was 7 leaf bucks. Is it a surprise she's not pandering to EOPs?

>> No.15932024

>>15913642
She never wanted EN fans. I honestly feel kinda bad for her English only fans for not getting the message..

The only reason EN fans flocked to her is because they knew she at least could understand them, unlike the other JP girls.

Had HoloEN become a thing before she debuted, people wouldn't have given two shits about her the way she was/is, besides being a minor meme.

>> No.15932440

>>15931322
You got it the wrong way around buddy.
Pandering comes first, support comes second.
You can't expect an audience to support you when you do nothing for said audience.

>> No.15932580

>>15913642
OP is a retard and I am being serious in saying so.
And from the comments I can tell that anyone who would agree with him or even know looks at kson in the first place and only talks about his ass.

>> No.15932906

She escaped the burgerland censorship dystopia. Why would she ever want to go back?

>> No.15932922

>>15916867
jesus christ i regret clicking on that
her voice is headache inducing

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